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Sept. 26, 2024 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Free Speech is OVER? Infowars FORCED to LIQUIDATE, Telegram COMPROMISED

Alex Jones has been ORDERED to liquidate the company he built from the ground up, the tip of the spear for all things related to conspiracy theories — the legendary Infowars. Curiously, all of the info is being sold off, potentially containing sensitive information regarding viewers and customers. Right before the election, no less — and almost simultaneously, Telegram has finally given into requests to sharing information with law enforcement. It looks like Free Speech has taken one of it’s biggest blows in YEARS, is this the death knell before a potential Kamala presidency coming up? Join us tonight for NIGHTLY OFFENSIVE where we get into all this and more! __ ⇩SUPPORT THE SHOW⇩ ➤ JOIN CENSORED TV: Watch this FULL EPISODE ad free + EXCLUSIVE content at https://censored.tv/ promo code “OFFENSIVE” for 20% - Keep free speech media alive! ➤ JOIN THE PRIVATE LIVE COMMUNITY: https://elijahschaffer.locals.com/ ➤ NOTICER T-SHIRTS / MERCH: https://slightlyoffensive.com/ __ ⇩ SHOW SPONSORS⇩ ➤ UNDERTAC: Get the best pair of boxers in America that are breathable, don't ride up, and last the test of time. Plus, they are battle forces tested. http://www.undertac.com for 20% off with the offer code OFFENSIVE20. Satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. ➤ THE WELLNESS COMPANY: Be prepared for what is coming next! Order your MEDICAL EMERGENCY KIT ASAP at https://www.twc.health/offensive and enter code OFFENSIVE for 10% off. The Wellness Company and their licensed doctors are medical professionals you can trust, and their medical emergency kits are the gold standard to keeping you safe! Again, that’s https://www.twc.health/offensive, promo code OFFENSIVE. ➤ VAN MAN COMPANY: Vanman Co. is the go-to source for all-natural, non-toxic and chemical free products — from creams to deodorant, soap and mouthwash, Vanman Co. is one of the only companies to deliver on quality without cutting corners when it comes to your health and well-being. Go to https://www.vanman.shop/offens..

Participants
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breanna morello
11:27
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elijah schaffer
34:19
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alex jones
01:01
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donald j trump
01:00
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harri hursti
04:14
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michael mendoza
04:15
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earl gray
00:33
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patrick bet-david
00:37
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elijah schaffer
Well, things are not looking good for Alex Jones.
If you go to my screen, full screen here, AP News reports that the judge approves to auction and liquidate all of Alex Jones and InfoWars to help pay for the Sandy Hook families.
It's kind of crazy to pay for an event that never happened.
No, I'm totally kidding.
We're not good.
We're totally not going there tonight.
But we are going to be talking about the intensity of what's happening because there is a war on free speech.
While this is happening and they're liquidating all of the intellectual property for InfoWars, setting a precedent ahead of the election, on the other hand, you have the CEO of Telegram still in jail now saying that one of the last bastions of free speech, the last encrypted app that didn't share information with the Global Homo Order, is saying that they are now going to bend the knee.
Is this the end of free speech?
We'll find out here in just a few moments.
It's approximately 7:40 p.m. Eastern Time in the United States.
Let's start the show.
unidentified
There we go.
elijah schaffer
I love how everyone's feeling the music tonight.
You got to hold up the drink a little bit, Brianna.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
elijah schaffer
Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, Zs and Xurs, and objects and felines, Welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
This is the best worst show on the internet.
I am your host, Elijah Schaefer, and we have a great show for you today to introduce who is in the room.
I'd like to invite my guest, Brianna Morello from the Brianna Morello Show.
Welcome to Nightly Offensive for the first time.
breanna morello
Yes, thank you for having me.
I'm very excited to be here in studio, which is great.
And I'm excited for our discussion tonight.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so people that don't know you and don't know who you are, I mean, obviously, I follow your investigative journalism.
We can get into your story a little bit later in the show.
I was following you.
You were working with Fox.
You were in the mainstream media.
And of course, you broke free.
But tell us about your show, who you are, and what you do.
breanna morello
Yeah, so I host a daily news show at 7 p.m. Eastern Time every single day, and we kind of dive into everything that would normally get rejected from the corporate editorial meetings that I would be sitting in on.
So everything that they told me I couldn't talk about on air, we're talking about it now, Monday through Friday.
elijah schaffer
Hell yeah.
Okay, and of course, you know him.
You've seen him.
Maybe you've never even heard him, but he's been here.
Ladies and gentlemen, Earl Gray.
earl gray
So happy to be here once again.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, buddy.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, make sure you do some confetti.
You know the confetti button?
He's learning it.
He's learning it.
All right, and then on the button pressing for the first time, you know, he's pushing the buttons today wrong, but when it comes to me, he's always pushing mine.
harri hursti
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Mike Mendoza, welcome back, sir.
michael mendoza
What's up?
It's Mike Mendoza of the Mike Mendoza Show on the Mike Mendoza Network.
So follow me at Mike Mendoza JTG on Twitter.
And yeah, first time pressing buttons, the camera order got me a little messed up, but I'll get by the end of the night, hopefully.
elijah schaffer
All right, let's jump right into this.
All right, Brianna, Earl Gray, and Mike.
This is a rather interesting topic that we're going to jump into.
If we can bring this up with all of us, we should bring the split.
Okay, so we're on AP News here, and I want to get into this story as the judge approves to auction the liquidating of Alex Jones InfoWars.
Now, before we even talk about what our opinions are, listen to exactly what they have to say.
Okay, so conspiracy theorist Alex Jones, they always start with the slander.
Remember that every time they start with a preliminary word, this is a terrible person.
It's probably talking about me or somebody else.
Infowars media platform and its assets will be sold off piece by piece in auctions this fall to help pay the more than $1 billion he owes relatives of the victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting under an order expected to be approved by a federal judge.
Now, it goes on to say here that U.S. bankruptcy judge Christopher Lopez in Houston said during a court hearing Tuesday that he will approve the auctions that start in November, but he said that he first must change a previous order to make it clear that the trustee overseeing Jones' personal bankruptcy case controls all the assets of Infowars parent company, Free Speech Systems, which is 100% owned by Jones.
Now, despite the pending loss of his company, Jones vows to continue his talk shows through other means, possibly including a new website and his personal social media accounts.
He also has suggested that InfoWars assets could be bought by his supporters, allowing him to continue hosting his show as an employee under the Infowar brand in their home city of Austin, Texas.
All right, there's so much to unpack here, but I want to say the reason why this is important is everybody knows in 2008, Alex Jones woke me up, really 2007, with the Obama deception.
He said that eventually they were going to lock us down, that Obama was going to usher in an era of communism.
And everyone said we were crazy.
And it looks like now they're tired of him calling out 9-11.
So I want to go to my guests today.
We'll start here with Brianna.
Do you think that this was a significant timing?
Do you think this is about, you know, I don't know, finding the restitution for the victims of Sandy Hook?
Or you were talking, I know, to Owen Schroyer, you were interviewing him about what happened.
He's one of the main hosts there for people that aren't familiar.
So from your understanding, what is the motivation behind this?
Or why are they doing this now?
breanna morello
Yeah, if you look at the timeline, they're looking to do this right before the election.
Obviously, it's in November, so that's a key point here.
They're also looking to go after his ex-account, which is interesting, right?
Because they're not asking for the revenue that comes in from his ex-account.
They're instead wanting to get the full possession of his account, which tells me that this is all about not the money, because they knew they weren't going to recoup any of that, but instead they're looking to silence him.
They want to take away every platform from him so he has no voice on anything.
And that's exactly what's taking place.
So the fact that the judge is allowing them to auction off InfoWars is an absolute disgrace, especially for free speech and free press.
And people are just kind of going along with this.
And you have to just wonder why are we all going to sit here and pretend like this can't be any of us at any point?
This is going to set precedents.
And I'm really afraid from where we're going to go from this point on.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and it is remarkable.
The reason why this is significant is we are not just saying, okay, he owes $1.5 billion.
Crazy.
No single person can pay that off besides maybe Musk.
But the point is they want to go after his intellectual property, so his ideas, his legacy, right?
So we can start here by saying, what is the point of going after this other than the obvious?
It's not just shutting down one man's platform.
It is about sending a message to people.
We don't just want your money.
We want to destroy your life.
And remember, I don't remember where that was at a Crowder or was that OMG or who was it where that federal officer was caught on record saying that the feds were the ones who nudged the families to make this lawsuit to begin with.
breanna morello
Yeah, that was Crowder's team.
Mug Club actually released that one.
And again, a lot of people dismissed it and said, oh, this is just somebody who's trying to get in someone else's pants and were very dismissive of it.
But in fact, it was actually factually true and it matches up with everything that we know.
And so to dismiss the reports are pretty absurd.
But yeah, he was a, I believe CIA is where the agency he worked.
And he was kind of just detailing what goes on behind the closed doors.
Again, yeah, again, it's just, it's outrageous.
It's disgusting.
But it maps out what this all was about.
They said, you know, in that, they said, you know, we've successfully like silenced him.
So we're not going to keep going after Alex Jones anymore because we've bankrupt the guy.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but it's, but you know that it didn't work because, you know, I was with him the other day.
People should go watch the interview.
It was a great time.
Always catching up with Papa Alex.
He knows he's helped me for many, many years, almost a decade now.
And, you know, I noticed with the CIA thing, who do you trust less?
A drunk gay guy or the CIA?
That's actually a good question because every time you see it, these gay guys are just giving up information.
Like, I mean, it's true.
It's like, I always see that gay guys basically take two parts of the worst parts of men and women.
Not all of them.
There's some good gay people.
Andy, no, I like him and I like some of them.
But on the flip, it's like, you know, this guy comes out, he gossips, he says the inevitable.
Nothing happens, though.
And now, once they took away his money, you can't take away his spirit.
And Mike, I know when we're looking at this, I mean, this is very significant.
It hits this podcast.
It hits everybody who's in the independent media.
When they say we're going to auction this stuff off, what they're saying is we expect that there are going to be people who are going to try to buy this stuff, not just his friends, right?
Because then we would just buy it outright.
They would just sell it and as people would buy it and give it to him.
They're trying to bring in dark money, my opinion is, and bring in outside investors to hike the price up so that even if we want to rebuy it back, you know, we're spending a billion dollars per se, which they say is to help the families.
But in reality, it's just to continue to bankrupt and siphon money out of independent media and send us a message that, hey, don't fuck with us.
michael mendoza
Yeah, also, too.
And like, you know, when you sign up for a website, when you buy a product from the InfoWar store, usually like you give them your information and you say you accept all the cookies, you give them your email.
I mean, is now whoever like gets the, gets the highest bidder on one of these things.
Like, I mean, are they going to get the email list?
And then like, you know, what, what, what privacy provisions are they beholden to after they get that?
Also, too, I think it's interesting, too, that George Soros is buying a bunch of radio stations.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he just swept in.
It might be like a bidding war between George Soros and Elon Musk, but I don't know what's going to happen, but it's going to be interesting to see who actually gets their hand on this stuff because it's going to be a very sensitive information that the feds can use to clamp down people even more.
elijah schaffer
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All right, I'm joining the studio.
We are live out of South Florida in the United States.
My guest, Brianna Morello, is here with Earl Gray and Mike Mendoza.
We are chilling talking about this story.
When we get a little further into this, I want to talk about this.
So Jones was talking about this.
He said, the key is to understanding who shut Infowars down.
Now, we talked about this story about this Fed who went after him.
And we have a clip of it.
I'm going to bring this up.
We're going to watch this, a few minutes of this.
This was undercover work from Crowder, you said, right?
breanna morello
I believe this is, yep.
No, Sounds Investigation Night.
My apologies.
unidentified
Okay.
Oh, yeah.
breanna morello
Said it's not.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, we had them on.
So listen to this.
And then, Brianna, I want to go right to you when we're done with this.
And I want to, you've done, you know, you've been around this whole investigative journalism side.
And I kind of want to understand about how deep this stuff goes and if this is really happening.
Listen.
earl gray
You can kind of put anyone in jail if you know what to do.
unidentified
How?
He's like, Look, this bureau practice entrapment a lot.
We get really close.
elijah schaffer
We call it a nudge.
unidentified
A nudge.
A nudge.
Sometimes we just gotta get a quick wheel just to see what happens.
elijah schaffer
Sometimes you like the fuse and just wait for it to follow.
unidentified
Nothing with putting on a fake social media thing that really get people mad.
Alex Jones.
Yeah, so we were after him.
You are.
He did what we wanted.
elijah schaffer
Which was what?
michael mendoza
Took his money away.
elijah schaffer
Chop his legs off.
michael mendoza
All right.
elijah schaffer
We don't need to play any more of that, but you can watch that there, Sound Investigations.
But Brianna, going to you, I mean, this is a guy on record.
Do you think there's any validity to the fact that the CIA, this is a very big claim.
The CIA was involved indirectly in a form of like, I would call it like, I guess indirect is the word, but some sort of entrapment where they can't take the blame, right?
Is this real?
Is this what's happening?
breanna morello
So I've spoken to people about this story.
Some believe that this is a person who's from an entry-level position, so they wouldn't have this much background on any of these issues.
So there's that aspect to it that comes from people who have worked in the Intel community previously.
But I do think it's happening.
I mean, as we get closer and closer to the elections, I'm watching on X, for an example, and I'm watching all this disinformation get spun out there, and it's on the conservative side.
And it doesn't ever make any sense.
You know, this whole like diddy tape thing.
There's certain accounts that are intentionally pushing out wrong information.
And so that's a red flag for me.
And then I also just kind of wonder, I mean, I get it.
You know, you're trying to get laid.
That's what he's trying to do there.
You're going to sit there and lie and pretend like you're someone that you're not.
But I don't know.
I don't trust our CIA.
I know that they can plant things on you.
Cheryl Atkinson, a former CBS news reporter, came on my show and detailed how the federal government hacked into her accounts, her electronic devices, what she was doing.
Yeah, this was during the Barack Obama years.
They actually went in, they hacked into her accounts, they planted things, they were trying to plant things on her husband's device.
They weren't able to get to the point.
elijah schaffer
Like CP, right?
Like, I mean, that's what they're doing all the time.
breanna morello
Well, that's, this is where I'm going to.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
breanna morello
That's the thing.
Because her husband, so somebody warned her, after they found out that they were hacking into her devices, somebody actually reached out to her and told her what was going on and warned her that they were going to her husband's devices, who was a cop at the time.
Long story short, they believed it was child porn and it never made it to his devices.
But I've asked experts and they say, absolutely, they could do that.
That's not that's not an issue at all.
That's what is interesting, too, about the second assassination suspect.
unidentified
Yeah, right.
elijah schaffer
I'm gonna bring that up while you're talking.
breanna morello
Yeah, his son apparently was found with hundreds of files of child pornography.
Now, listen, I think it's an egregious crime to be accused of, and I immediately shut down.
I don't want to talk to anyone who's accused of anything like that.
But that's why they probably would do it.
It's not just that, too.
It's not just Cheryl Atkinson's husband who was also likely going to get planted with that.
You guys recall, too, the Vegas shooter's brother also came under attack with allegations of child pornography in his possession.
Those charges were dismissed.
The DOJ said they were going to refile them, but they never did.
So there's a lot going on here.
elijah schaffer
But Alex Jones, too, remember?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Alex Jones, he won a case where they literally planted CP child pornography on the hard drives.
I might be kind of missing some details here, so you know, crucify me.
But I remember he was able to prove that it was like planted by somebody, and he never got charged or anything.
And like they actually tried to already frame Infowars.
And it kind of reminds me of the bombing of the Twin Towers in the parking garage, right?
When they first went after the support pillars, almost took them down.
And it's like, okay, well, we knew they wanted to take them down.
And then he predicted it, right?
Alex Jones said they were going to try to fly planes in the Twin Towers and take them down.
And how did he know that?
He knew that before it happened.
Well, because these people are very leaky in their information.
But the child porn thing, I mean, you have Alex Rosen and Predator Poachers and these different people.
And yeah, you can kind of tell someone, you know, okay, some people do look at this stuff.
But how is it convenient that every time there's some sort of a sketchy shooting that we don't know anything about, you know, we're talking about Sandy Hook and Alex Jones and child porn.
We're talking about the would-be assassin that has connections to Ukraine and government assets.
The kid has, you know, child porn.
Then the Las Vegas shooting, which is one of the most mysterious shootings in all of American history, then his brother who was speaking out, or maybe it was a different brother, but he has child porn.
It's like, really?
So everybody, I told my wife today, I go, you know, there's two types of people in families.
One that work with the feds to commit crimes that you can't solve, and the other that look at child porn, you know, and they're always in the family.
There's always two of them.
The statistical anomaly would almost be like 0.4% of the population controlling most of the world's institutions.
It's just not reality for this.
Like, it's too suspicious.
I don't know if I'm like being crazy, but I feel like the government genuinely just plants this shit.
And then it's like, oopsie.
And it's like it's witness or intimidation or witness tampering.
michael mendoza
Isn't there Project Pegasus, which is like one of those information security things where they can hack into any phone.
All they have to do is send one text message.
And then if you open up even the text message, I don't think you even have to get a link or download anything, but they can get into your phone and then they can put whatever they want to on there.
So, I mean, that's just one example of what they can do with the technology that they have.
breanna morello
Oh, yeah.
And when I did a story, well, it happened when I was a kid, someone hacked into my electronic devices.
I was going through all my stuff when I was a kid when I was 16 years old.
But then also, when I released a story regarding the TSA federal watch list, which now we know because I reported on this actually, Tulsi Gabbert was added to the list, but it's also J6.
There was people who weren't even who were just reporting on it, weren't charged with the crime.
They were added to the terror watch list.
As soon as I broke that story, all my group with Uncover DC as well.
Their reporters over there were also following it.
And so we all kind of tag teamed on that story together.
But I mean, literally the next that night, my devices were all going haywire.
It's never happened before.
Like TV turning off and on, my cameras, I had to unplug everything because those were getting into, like, I was getting the alerts if somebody was logging in.
Wow.
So it definitely happens.
michael mendoza
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, and they can do it.
I mean, I'm not going to beat a dead horse, but I mean, people know after January 6th through the whole FISA that I got a hold of, that Apple gave backdoor access to the federal authorities to go into my iTunes account and pick up all my iMessages, everything, get into all my apps.
That was a big story.
I should send that email out to more people.
It's crazy.
So then they lost, then they put a gag order on Apple for several years.
Then they lost the gag order lawsuit.
Then I got alerted of the FISA breach.
And then it was like, by the way, so I'm not going to say.
breanna morello
How long did it take for you to figure that out?
elijah schaffer
I did not.
I was not alerted until it was November of 2022.
I was alerted, and they got detection starting in January of 2021.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
That's crazy.
Cause, you know, I'm hearing from people about the tenant media situation that's going on.
michael mendoza
Yeah, right.
breanna morello
That's all FISA.
And I asked FBI experts, DOJ experts, all of them read through the indictment.
They're like, there's no way, unless Lauren Chen handed over her cell phone to the feds because they had a warrant or she just voluntarily did, there's no other way they would have all these communications.
elijah schaffer
So Apple actually, this is a very, this is actually around the time Tucker was going to cover this around the time he actually got fired.
Well, I guess we're like at the table of people that end up leaving networks.
It's like, it's popular now to get fired from like shitty networks.
unidentified
It is.
elijah schaffer
It's very popular, very in, very vogue.
It's like getting COVID in 2020.
It makes you special.
But on the flip side of that, it's like, you know, I was shocked and I didn't even know what it meant when I received that communication at first.
It was really confusing.
But it turns out that during the San Bernardino shootings, do you remember that?
Where they were not able to get into the iPhone because it was encrypted and Apple wouldn't hand over the communications.
Now, I don't know what's changed under FISA or what's changed under requesting of information, but January 6th or instances of terrorism, now they can get access.
I imagine it's connected to that case where they couldn't get access.
The FBI couldn't get access.
So now if they call you a domestic terrorist, essentially they can even have the tech companies give you back into access to their devices.
I don't think they're hacking in.
I don't think it's encrypted.
I think they're getting the actual passwords or an encryption code or even just specific data because you saw with X even during the Twitter files that there was that tab, remember, on the back that said like DMs.
They could just like go in and read your DMs.
You don't think Apple has a back door to read our shit?
I mean, I'm sure they do.
breanna morello
Yeah, they definitely do.
And, you know, I'm also working on another story, give you a little hint on this one that people come forward in the intel agencies immediately after coming forward as whistleblowers, then they get added to these terror watch list investigations, and then they get their devices all subpoenaed by the federal government.
And of course, that shouldn't be happening.
But when you don't have a speaker with a spine and you have all these people who just give in, there's no consequences for this.
So the overreach is what's going to be ongoing at this point.
michael mendoza
Yeah.
And by the way, right now they're using it against domestic terrorists.
But I mean, who's classified as a domestic terrorist?
breanna morello
All of us.
michael mendoza
Yeah, exactly.
If you walked within the velvet ropes on the Capitol when everyone else was and the cops weren't even stopping them and they were letting people in, well, now you're a domestic terrorist.
And I mean, that's going to broaden that more and more by the day.
And then if Kamala gets in, it's going to be even worse.
elijah schaffer
Well, and here's what Alex said.
No, you're 100% right.
I think we have to really pay attention to the idea of demonizing normal citizens.
Like, this is what scares, it actually frightens me.
It's like, okay, was I at a Diddy freak off before?
I have no comments.
Oh, no.
unidentified
Sorry.
elijah schaffer
It wasn't a thousand bottles of lube.
It was 999.
breanna morello
Blame Costco.
michael mendoza
Yeah, I know, right?
elijah schaffer
Come on.
michael mendoza
The baby wheel of boom.
breanna morello
That's what his lawyer did.
His lawyer blamed Costco today.
elijah schaffer
We're giving these 734 dildos a boom.
unidentified
Boom.
elijah schaffer
Boom.
No, but Alex brought this up of what they are.
They're afraid of us.
And I've seen this accumulate over time, which is why people have asked me, or they might even ask you, Brianna, or other people in the room, why don't you give up?
Or like, why have I never cared about bad press about myself or slander or lies?
Because I know what people are doing.
I know what the idea is.
It's to root out people who are exposing, whether it's COVID or white replacement or corruption or even election fraud.
It's about weeding these people out so that these networks stay milquetoast and they only allow people who are controllable.
Now, Alex Jones was just with Tucker the other night and he was saying, look, they are afraid of us.
So let's go ahead and watch this clip.
This is just, I think, from last night.
Check it out.
alex jones
Infectious.
How the world works is infectious.
They don't want people to get excited about knowledge.
And once you do, it's addicting.
And we just people ask me all the time, what do we tell young people to do?
The opposite of what Hollywood tells you.
Anything Democrats tell you, anything politicians say that are leftists, anything Hollywood says, anything BlackRock funds, it's simple.
It's like somebody handing you cyanide or fentanyl.
Don't take it.
Don't get near it.
And just love your family.
Be strong.
Don't feel bad because you don't have a bunch of money.
Don't feel bad because you're trucking new.
Don't feel bad.
No, you've got a soul and you love God and you love your country and you love your family.
And you are a trillion times richer than people like Zuckerberg and the rest of them.
So be confident.
Be confident and know you were born to be in this time.
And you've been under covert globalist attack, but you're not, you're not a victim.
You're not a loser.
You are the sleeping giant that now has awoken and our enemies are afraid and they should be afraid.
unidentified
What a king.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, what a king.
I mean, it is, I mean, I know I'm not supposed to throw to you, but I mean, when you see Alex talking like that, it is pretty resilient for a man to go through this much shit, like to get sued and fined and slandered.
And people don't even know half the slander people have said about him because there's so much said about him that it's like it gets buried under like there's like levels of slander.
So like the 1.5 billion dollars.
I feel like even me, I don't know if I'm resilient enough to go through that kind of shit, right?
breanna morello
It's a lot.
The legal fees are very pricey.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, millions.
breanna morello
I can't even imagine.
But that's why they do what they do.
I mean, this is all funded by Democrats.
These attorneys are the same ones who are going after now.
Other conservative talking heads.
We see that all the time.
They're the same lawyers with mysterious funding.
And they're going after the same people.
They're trying to drag all of these lawsuits to in Travis County, which I think is pretty interesting.
There was another lawsuit also filed in Travis County.
Yeah, this is a couple of months back.
It was in regards to another shooter.
I believe they have Schroyer is mentioned in it as a defendant, Crowder, Tim Poole, a couple of other people.
But again, they're just trying to drag anyone into it.
And I don't even think Owen even mentioned the person's name.
It was the wrong photo that was used and circulated by the mainstream meeting.
I think Fox is also in on this too.
And they just, because it's the same people, they just quickly brought it into Travis County and they're hoping it sticks.
And they're just using Owen's name.
michael mendoza
I think that was the, wasn't that the Mexican white supremacist shooter?
breanna morello
I remember this one.
michael mendoza
Yeah, I remember that one.
Yeah.
Well, because there was a lot made of like who it actually was because, I mean, he had a very common last name, like most Mexicans.
You know, it's like Juan Lopez or something.
It's like, okay, there's like a million of those just in America.
So, but yeah, I remember that case specifically.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
Yeah, they've used the wrong photo.
And he didn't even, I mean, I don't think Owen even said it.
I think he just had it on his desk and there was a shot over his head.
elijah schaffer
That's what they are getting more alarming.
By the way, shout out to Lisa Reynolds from Timcast for writing the show tonight and helping us because I want to talk about the reality of how we can possibly save Infowars.
So one of the main things that I wanted to point out was we really need to do our due diligence.
By the way, this is you guys watching.
So we need all of the citizen journalists who are out there to track every person who's even at that auction, whether they're phoning in or what they're doing and how they're, where they're getting their money from.
Because we need to find out who's behind this, right?
When you talk about Soros buying these 220 radio stations, it brings up a lot of questions, right?
Why does he want these?
And if people are buying this intellectual property, they're not buying it for any other reason but something nefarious, right?
And even if it's like, oh, well, a dildo company bought it.
It's like, that's not a dildo company.
That's a front company for something else.
Okay.
It's like, oh, well, this guy just said he was a fan.
I don't believe it.
Why doesn't he give the property back to Alex?
This is about a dark money network, money laundering, pushing money into this network.
People are going to get paid off, you know, kickbacks.
I would not be surprised if some of the slimiest people in the industry are somehow related to this.
And if we find out feds are giving federal money even to buy this or acquire these things because they don't want to give, they don't want the family to get enough money to ever pay off the debt.
They don't want Alex Jones to ever pay it off.
Do you think that it's possible that this is going to be used further and further to mar him?
They're going to get some of his intellectual property, plant shit, say they found shit on the hard drives.
Like, I feel like they could go even deeper on this of like trying to exploit personal family, you know, material, maybe sexually compromising pictures with him, his wife, maybe any lovers he's had in between marriages or whatever he's gone through in his life.
I just sense this is going to go down a very dark path and the money behind it is going to be convoluted and corrupt.
breanna morello
Well, that's not totally out of the loop, honestly, because we saw what happened with the Dominion lawsuit.
You know, I was working at Fox Corp, but not at the time when this was all going down.
And there was those text messages that made their way into the public sphere.
Of course, Dominion denied it, of course, but it was text messages allegedly from Tucker Carlson, and he was speaking down about Donald Trump.
And he wasn't happy about Donald Trump, and they've released those.
It was meant to kind of tarnish his reputation amongst conservatives by putting that out there, although it hasn't worked.
It was still an attempt.
So you're right.
They probably will likely do that.
I also think, like you mentioned earlier, they'll probably get the mailing list of people who bought vitamins from his stores and try to add it to some type of list.
I mean, we know our federal government is actively making all these lists of Americans.
I think that's going to be one of the big ones too in all of this.
And I really hope that they don't do what you just kind of suggested, but I don't hold anything past these people.
These people are evil.
They have no souls and they're demonic.
elijah schaffer
They are.
They're literal demons.
I want to remind you guys as we talk about what we're going through here.
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Even if you have insurance, there's high deductibles.
You go to the emergency room.
You're paying thousands of dollars.
You may even go try to get a hospital visit, but Juan Carlo, like, I don't just make up a name, took your spot.
Venezuelan took your spot with a government-funded card.
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My guest today, Brianna Morello from the Brianna Morello show, we're talking about some crazy stuff going on here.
Let's start with the possibility of Elon Musk buying it.
If you can go to my screen, Mike, Bridget Gabriel said Elon Musk should purchase Infowars and make Alex Jones the CEO.
Natalie F. Danielshen?
unidentified
I don't even know what that is.
breanna morello
That's a good one.
michael mendoza
That's a Daniel Shen?
Yeah, but yeah, it looks like Daniel Shan.
elijah schaffer
Sounds like her name is Daniel and then, or Daniel Danelli Shen?
I don't know.
Who thinks Musk should buy Infowars?
It would be hilarious.
AF Post said judge orders the auction.
So, okay, people are talking about this.
Real realistic prospect of Musk bailing him out.
Does he even need to do this?
Is this reality?
breanna morello
I mean, if Musk does this, he's going to, they're going to try to kill him.
michael mendoza
Oh, yeah.
breanna morello
I mean, this is just over for him.
I mean, they don't like him now because he bought X. They're really not going to, and he's endorsing Trump.
They're really not going to like him if he stays info wars.
michael mendoza
You know, I mean, I mean, Elon is the type of person to do something for the meme.
I think that he would do it for the meme just in this case.
And it would be worth it.
If he walked into the Infowars studio with a sink with the whole like, let that sink in thing again, I think that would be gold.
He would love it.
breanna morello
Do you think the judge and the bankruptcy, the bankruptcy judge would allow it, though?
elijah schaffer
But how could you?
That's a free auction, right?
breanna morello
I mean, unless there's a criminal, you have to prove it.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I was like, unless there's criminal problems.
So, like, that brings up the question.
Roger Stone put this out.
Roger Stone's a good friend of the show and of InfoWars.
He said, I'm putting together a group to buy InfoWars and hire real Alex Jones to run it.
On the flip side of this, I reached out to Roger today.
I told him I'd give him $5,000.
It's not a lot of money, but I give him $5,000 to help, you know, to buy something, right?
Maybe I can buy one of Alex Jones' trash cans at that point.
But, you know, but if everyone puts in $5, $5,000, $5 million, you could buy it.
So it seems dumb.
Oh, that's not a lot of money, but it could go far.
But I also said I can help with press.
We work with Vigilant Fox, a lot of people.
We could promo, tell people where they can support.
We can get this out, run the video department at Gateway Pundit.
We have millions of readers a day.
So we have that kind of reach.
Don't discount what you have, even if you're not some guy who can, you know, buy it out for, you know, one and a half billion dollars.
But, you know, when he's bringing this together, do you think this is going to be, do you think this is going to be anything significant?
Or is this going to be kind of like the January 6th, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gates are like, we're going to save the people and we're going to get them out of jail and then nothing happens.
And, you know, another one of our good guys just goes down and gets punished.
Like, do you think Roger has a chance?
breanna morello
I hope Roger has a chance.
That would be amazing.
I don't know.
I don't know what his fundraising reach is like.
I mean, I'm sure he's probably got friends with deep pockets and high places.
So I hope he could pull it together.
But I think that there's going to be probably someone out there who's going to outbid him through the kind of just mysterious money popping up and you're not going to be present.
elijah schaffer
Genuinely, because we're going to close this topic out, but why would somebody bid for this information?
It's not like it's not really worth it besides maybe for like federal agencies to get access to his mailing list and figure out who's bought what.
Like I don't see a monetary gain to this information because you could rent any mailing list from the GOP.
I mean like it's probably more profitable to get an average GOPer than a crazy conspiracy theorist that supports Alex Jones.
That's my opinion.
breanna morello
Yeah, no, I think the goal isn't to recoup any type of dollar amount at this point.
I think the goal is to just crush them.
And that sends the message to everyone else that if you go out of line and if you tell something that we don't want you to tell, we'll come after you too.
I mean, that's really the whole narrative here.
It's the same thing with trying to buy his ex account.
There's no dollar amount if Alex Jones isn't behind the X account.
They're not asking for his revenue.
They're asking for the physical account.
It's all about crushing Alex Jones.
elijah schaffer
Are they coming after his personal account?
breanna morello
That's what I was told was a suggestion in court that they're going to try to go after his personal account because he brings revenue for you.
elijah schaffer
I would tell the judge to say, suck my dick, but it's 2024 and most of them probably would like that.
So like that's not really like a burn.
But I okay, and this is what I was saying.
It's kind of a distraction because the election's coming up and I want to remind you that there are several insane stories that just dropped.
Number one, we'll get into a couple things after, including a celebrity-fueled plan by Obama.
This is not a joke, to get Americans overseas to turn in absentee ballots.
You know about the whole absentee ballots here and the mail-in votes.
Well, now they're going after a new mail-in program overseas to set out 9,000 ballots overseas to our bases where there's only 2,670 people.
So they're already setting four times the amount of ballots just to one location, which is kind of crazy.
However, the biggest elephant in the room, we still haven't figured out, is whether or not voting machines are hackable.
Reminding you that Fox, the pillow guy, a lot of people have lost a lot of money by saying this.
But a gentleman was on the Patrick Bett David podcast.
This is about five minutes, guys, but it's way worth the watch.
He literally just has a guy hack one of the voting machines in under five minutes, like live on his show.
Okay?
This is where we're at today.
Let's take a look at this.
And I want you to see how easy it is to hack the American voting machines.
Check this out.
harri hursti
And for the reasons that we don't want to put a logo, this voting system technology company name is just a fake name, because I have been using this particular machine in filming a number of training videos, some of those for the government, just to show vulnerabilities like USB vulnerability, which we are going to be using.
This machine actually had many vulnerabilities, and at the time when this was still in use, this was called the worst voting machine used in the United States.
The worst voting machine used in the United States.
patrick bet-david
Where was this used?
Harry?
harri hursti
That was used in Maryland.
It was in Virginia.
I don't have the complete list what all places it was used, but it was fairly widely used.
So what we are going to be exploiting here is a USB vulnerability.
The USB vulnerability is amazingly good to identify because it's easy to mitigate.
You just stopped access to the USB port.
I have plugged here an extension cable such that we can see that the actual USB port is behind there and it's accessible by the voter.
I'm using here a commercially available USB computer called Bash Bunny.
It can be many other devices.
This is an example.
This particular device is $120.
You can buy it from online.
And I have pre-programmed it.
And if this would be a real attack, the attack will take six, seven seconds.
I have slowed it down and make it visible so that the audience can see what has happened.
So when I'm plugging it in, this is the Scheringer's USB stick is always the wrong way.
So the computer starts.
And once it's started, it's doing its magic.
The moment you see that the screen is changing, that is when the hack would have been already done and I would be unplugging it.
But I'm just showing this number of things.
So now it would have been done.
It's showing you the program manager.
It's showing you now the comment prompt.
And this is where all the votes live.
So I'm just showing that the directory where all the votes would be.
At this point of time, this stick has already complete control over the system.
So at this time, anything can be done, anything can be changed.
And as a last thing, I'm just showing a fake results just to show that can be done.
It's just to show that how the system is controlled.
So this is a good example of a hack.
And I said, only reason why anything is seen on the screen and why it's slow is because I artificially slowed it down and made it visible so that the audience can see that there's a control over the voting machine.
This particular machine has many other vulnerabilities, way worse than this one.
So that's why it's very good that this machine is no longer in use in the US.
And this is also showing how demonstrating the vulnerabilities work, because that causes changes.
And for example, removal of this machine from being used in the US.
patrick bet-david
So now, what is it doing right now, Harry?
harri hursti
Nothing.
It's already, the whole hack was done.
But if this would have been an election, I could have gone to the database and, for example, changed the votes.
That's one possibility.
patrick bet-david
How much of it could you have changed?
harri hursti
Anything.
You can add new candidate who was not even on the ballot.
It doesn't matter.
Because if you have total control over the system, you can do anything you want.
As I say, one example was that we add a new candidate to make that candidate to win.
unidentified
It would be obvious if the president of DEFCON is the one who won, George Washington.
patrick bet-david
That's what you're saying.
harri hursti
Yeah.
patrick bet-david
Yeah, I got what you're saying.
So is this like to the average hacker, is this machine a joke?
How easy it is?
harri hursti
It is a joke.
patrick bet-david
And how many years ago was it used?
harri hursti
I think this was last time used in 2012.
patrick bet-david
12 years ago.
harri hursti
And also, just an example, that when this was brought first time to DEF CON, we had a professor from Denmark, and in less than half an hour, he hacked into this machine wirelessly.
He didn't even touch the machine.
He took complete control over this machine wirelessly because this voting machine happens to have a wireless Wi-Fi access.
patrick bet-david
So, okay.
So, is it fair for one to speculate and question that any of the election electronic voting machines we've used previously, possibility that could have been hacked, possibility that the winners were flipped because somebody got into it.
harri hursti
So, again, the problem, the fundamental problem with this voting machine is it doesn't have a paper ballot.
So if somebody hacked this kind of machine and would have manipulated it, there is no evidence.
That's why we need paper ballots.
And especially we need handmarked paper ballots.
Because if the results are called in the question, now you can go and hand count those ballots.
elijah schaffer
Okay, but that's, okay, it's kind of stupid.
I feel like every time I watch anything, because we have so many good topics to cover tonight, but I feel like when I watched people like, you know, what we need is paper ballots because paper ballots would secure the election and then it would make cheating not possible.
And you know, yeah, that's like being a teenager and being like, you know, your mom's been really mad at you while you're sneaking out.
So if you just put a GPS tracker on your phone, then she'll always know where you are and then she won't be mad.
It's like, that's, yeah, I'm sneaking out to get away so she doesn't know where I am.
That's like the opposite.
So with the people in power, it's like, here's how we could really make sure everything's locked in, safe, free, and secure.
It's, I think that they have a grip on power and it's so secure because of the loopholes that are in our system.
And they control the greatest empire that's ever existed without even having to show their faces.
We don't even know who's controlling the empire.
We know some groups of people.
We know some of their names.
We know some of the people.
We got the Zuckerbergs and the Soroses and the people that are the elites.
But then there are the people above them, right?
There are the people who Mark Zuckerberg has to charge $23 million a year in security.
So there's no way it's just because of random stalkers.
This guy's afraid for his life.
And look at Trump, right?
Trump's a billionaire.
He's part of the elite class.
He's even, people say, oh, well, it's the Jews.
It's like, okay, maybe, but also Trump's the most pro-Israel president in pretty much the history of our country.
He's pro-Jewish and people are still trying to kill him.
So clearly just supporting the Jews doesn't fix the problems per se, as some people would accuse.
So who is it?
Like I'm saying, if we don't know, if you can be a billionaire, support Israel, do all these things, and they'll still try to kill you, who the hell is running the shots here?
breanna morello
Yeah, I think it's a good question.
We still don't know.
I mean, the voting machine thing, it gets a little wonky with me.
I can't really follow.
I've known I've gone to a lot of these conventions where they talk about the hacking because they talk about the algorithms and all these other things.
It's really hard to follow.
It's really hard to prove, I think.
But there's a hacking convention in Vegas I was just telling you guys about DEF CON.
So I was talking to an FBI agent and he's telling me, oh, the FBI actually sent me to it one year just to kind of watch and to kind of creep around.
And he's somebody who does cyber stuff, cybersecurity and all these other things.
And he's like, no.
So what DEF CON is, you go into your room, they bring in the voting machines, and a bunch of hackers just try hacking to the voting machines.
And then when they're successful, they tell the companies how they're able to do it.
So these companies, they know what's happening because they have seen it firsthand.
And that's the reason why they're bringing it to Vegas to see who could actually hack into them.
So it's interesting.
michael mendoza
Also, too, people are trying to push for paper ballots.
I mean, people get so impatient right now once they don't have the results of the election within like 10 minutes.
Like, I mean, could you imagine if we did paper ballots across the entire country?
And I mean, like, how much of the population actually votes?
Like, even if it's half, it would take weeks and weeks to actually get there through.
And also in 2000, I mean, you know, obviously I was too young to even understand what was going on at the time, but there is a lot of controversy around what happened with Gorin Bush.
And that was mostly paper ballots, I think, back then, too.
That was the whole thing with the hanging chads, like those little holes that are hanging off the ballots.
So, I mean, that even has its own issues.
I do think it is a problem, though, that we have voting machines, especially like, you know, once they go into like these back rooms, they try and try and count the votes and they cover the windows with like pizza boxes and stuff like that.
Like, okay, something's clearly going on where they're not like being forthright about how they're voting.
And like, you know, and then once you're looking at a graph, and all of a sudden there's a huge spike in the middle of the night after everyone went to sleep, something's going on there for sure.
elijah schaffer
So, dude, you know, okay, so this is where we get into the question.
So, we're talking about how easy it is to hack into this.
I'm going to bring up a video here, which is which is pretty wild.
unidentified
Let me see this: 17-year-old voting.
elijah schaffer
So, this is not a lie.
Okay, we investigated this at the Gateway Pundit and verified this.
So, there's a lot of interesting ways that they're getting people to vote for Kamala and to sort of like rig the election, right?
This is a very interesting thing that it's not just hacking.
Right now, in public schools, they're actually getting people to register to vote when they're 17, and they're telling them which party to register for.
Check out this video here we have of a mother who caught her public school.
This is crazy shit.
You just don't find in other countries because most countries you have to vote.
It's like illegal not to.
It's like mandatory voting.
Our country is weird.
Check this mother and what she had to say.
unidentified
Before I start this video, I'm going to say this is a personal experience of mine's something me and my daughter is deliberately dominated.
patrick bet-david
Oh, we've done it.
unidentified
I just want to put that up.
elijah schaffer
Stop.
unidentified
Just in case my video is deleted for no reason.
I just want to put that up there.
Today, my 17-year-old daughter wait, and I have proof just in case my video is deleted for no reason.
elijah schaffer
What are the beep though?
unidentified
I just want to put that out there.
Oh, God.
Today, my 17-year-old at a class and was told she needed to register to vote.
Not only was she told how to register, she was told who she should vote for.
And these are her words.
Amazing.
I'm going to upload proof.
I think Rusty did.
And I'm coming with port 2 tomorrow.
Because why the fuck would y'all pull my language, lady?
elijah schaffer
Telling her who to vote for.
I filmed her mother.
unidentified
And I have yet to have this conversation with her about the upcoming election.
I have not said.
elijah schaffer
Okay, this is too freaky.
earl gray
But anyway, I didn't get the point.
elijah schaffer
Okay, yeah, the point was that we, okay.
breanna morello
The beep threw you off.
earl gray
The beep though.
michael mendoza
Can we get a chirp, Brian, please?
It's coming.
I know it's coming.
There it is.
earl gray
The accent threw me off, actually.
elijah schaffer
Me too.
That was Ebonics or something.
unidentified
But okay, but this is something we need to discuss.
elijah schaffer
The larger effect of smaller forms of manipulation.
Like, you know, you don't have to just go in and hack a voting machine, but hack a few hundred in some key districts.
This is what people don't ask about rigging an election.
You don't have to like get a million people, million fake votes.
Most of the swing states and districts were determined by less than 10,000 votes.
Okay.
So you're talking about, you know, manipulating voting in just certain counties, right?
And you saw that with Arizona and the rigging of their governor and what was going on there, right?
With Katie Hobbs, that suddenly all the machines stopped working on voting day and then they had to reset them.
And then on last election for presidency, there was water main brakes and everyone had to evacuate and no one could monitor things.
And then suddenly, you know, a truck shows up with ballots and not they're not creased or folded, which means they were never actually mailed in.
And they're all for Joe Biden.
unidentified
Like, whoa!
earl gray
That's great.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
breanna morello
And then one Trump.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it's like, yeah, it was one Trump or whatever.
My point is, is like rigging isn't some big Oceans 11 thing.
It's like you're basically just betting on the laziness of people and the compliance of non-coordinated officials, kind of like Mossad.
Mossad has hundreds of thousands of these like agents that they call they're not sleeper agents, they're just normal citizens that they know they can rely on.
That's why Israel has a better intelligence apparatus in the U.S. Because Americans won't necessarily comply with the CIA, but they have this whole group of their dual citizens that they just say, Can you help us?
And they'll comply.
The same thing goes with the Democratic operation.
They just fall in line.
Like, if like, if it's there's a rigging and it's in favor of Kamala, you just assume the judge is going to somehow work in the favor of making sure that you close the case or it doesn't happen.
They have a strong like sleeper network in that way.
So Republicans are more, they care about justice.
And so they would, you know, expose rigging, even if it was in favor of Donald Trump.
But the other side, it's like they're all kind of connected, but they don't have to really organize because they're already, do you get what I'm saying?
Maybe I'm off on here, but I've noticed that there's, I don't think it's all coordinated.
I think it's just sort of like allegiance to the party.
breanna morello
Well, you literally have until, and I ask experts this all the time, you have until midnight, once those votes are all counted, to challenge it and bring it to federal court.
If someone, if you don't have an attorney sitting outside the federal courtroom by that deadline, filing whatever they need to file, you're done.
You can't challenge it because no judge is going to overturn anything.
That was a problem in 2020.
Yeah, I was actually speaking with Bernie Carrick about that, who told me because he was a part of, you know, the Rudol Giuliani team trying to challenge the election.
It was over.
Nobody was trying to overturn anything because it was already counted.
No judge wants to go out there and kind of push back on all of it.
That was within his experience.
So he thinks our focus, and so many other people I've spoken to too, thinks our focus is to be like immediate lawyers on deck, up all night, ready in each, like certain counties.
It can't have been each county, but certain counties that you need, and to make sure you're there, hitting the ground running to file whatever you need to file because no one's going to overturn anything when it's too late.
We've seen that.
But also with her story, too, I've got to be honest with you.
When I was in high school, and this is why I was a registered Democrat for so long, it's just because when I was in high school, I was 17 years old, didn't know what to fit to how to fill my voter ballot.
They gave it registration, they give it to you.
And they just kind of say, yeah, you know, vote however you want, fill out this.
And it was kind of, it wasn't, it was a push on us to vote or to register as a Democrat, but it was kind of instilled in all of us.
elijah schaffer
I hope so.
Well, yeah, I'm from LA.
So I, I mean, us too.
It's like there was never debate on who you're going to vote for or what.
unidentified
Yeah.
breanna morello
And Republicans don't campaign to young people or they were losers.
unidentified
Do you remember that?
elijah schaffer
Like the Republicans wore like suits to high school.
And you're like, what a fucking nerd.
Yeah.
And I was a nerd too, but I was like, what the hell?
And then like the hot chick's always like a Democrat.
And she's like, you know.
It's like, well, if you do want to get pussy or be one, you know what I mean?
Kind of thing.
And so that's, yeah, it is, it is weird.
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Now, switching the topics a little bit here on what we're discussing.
Trump just threatened war with Iran.
I don't know if you know about this.
So are you familiar with a creator named Nicolas Fuentes?
unidentified
I am.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
You don't need to give me your thoughts.
I'm not setting you up here.
What I do know, and maybe you know this, is that there is a moving faction in the right wing of I'd call it the dissident right, right?
They're more radical, more absolute.
I don't find any problem with them.
You know, whatever.
The only issue I ever have with the dissident right is a lot of times I feel like it's idealistic young men who don't have kids or families.
And so they say things like, you know, we'll just let it burn.
And it's like, okay, yeah, well, wait till you have kids.
And like, you know, you have babies and a pregnant wife, like you got skin in the game.
Sometimes you find a little bit of a different perspective.
However, I respect their concerns, particularly the Groiper's.
They have this concern that Trump is going to start a war with Iran.
And originally, they were dismissed by this.
We're going to discuss this in a second here, saying that they're not going to vote for Trump.
They're going to encourage people to not vote for Trump if he doesn't do a few things.
One of which I think is correct, right?
Is not going to war with Iran.
michael mendoza
That's about the big ones.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
So I thought I first heard that.
I was like, what the hell?
Trump wants to go to war with Iran.
I thought it was kind of stupid at first because I just, you know, I don't, I don't know.
I just didn't think that was true.
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Check out what he said today.
This was actually pretty shocking to me.
Listen to this.
donald j trump
But if I were the president, I would inform the threatening country, in this case, Iran, that if you do anything to harm this person, we are going to blow your largest cities and the country itself to smithereens.
We're going to blow it to smithereens.
You can't do that.
And there would be no more threats.
earl gray
I guess is Iran trying to kill you?
It's always been a lot.
donald j trump
We don't have that leadership for the necessary people, the necessary leaders.
We have two people, not one.
We don't even know who our president is right now.
Who is our president right now?
unidentified
We really don't know, but we have to have people not one that only keep looking.
donald j trump
And when you do that, when you just look, trouble always ensues.
So it's big trouble for our country.
Meanwhile, we have the president of Iran in our country this week.
We have large security forces guarding him, and yet they're threatening our former president and the leading candidate to become the next president of the United States.
Certainly a strange set of circumstances.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so there's several things to break down about this that we need to ask ourselves.
Number one, this idea of Iran being a technical threat to our country, Brianna, realistically, you've never been one to bullshit.
And you're also not like on these dogmatic sides.
I've never seen you be like, oh, I hate Israel or I love Israel.
Like I've seen you be, you know, pretty, pretty objective and realistic.
Is Israel a threat to the United?
I mean, it's shit.
That's the wrong question.
Is Iran a threat to the United States or is Iran a threat to Israel?
Like, is that like, what's the real threat here?
breanna morello
Well, I do think they're a threat to Israel, and I do think they're a threat to the United States when it comes to our democracy right now.
They want to kill President Trump, and we all know this, and so they're going to do whatever it takes, I think.
elijah schaffer
You really believe that?
breanna morello
I truly believe that, yes.
elijah schaffer
Why?
Because why?
breanna morello
They're looking for revenge.
I mean, he killed one of their top military.
Yeah, absolutely.
I can't even speak now.
Absolutely, he did.
And the problem is, is they.
All right, now I get it.
And I know this sounds bad, but our own government now is.
I know that sounds like, oh, this is going to sound really bad when it comes out.
So it's a little convenient, but I also think that our own DHS has been flooding this country with illegal aliens from countries that hate us for a reason.
They're hoping someone takes Trump out.
And Iran, I think, is the most likely candidate for that.
So I do think that I don't think Trump actually wants war, though, with Iran.
elijah schaffer
You think it's just being Trump, like being like, smithering.
breanna morello
He does that with Russia.
unidentified
We're going to take your little tiny mosque and turn it into dust, you know?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, right.
I almost can't tell him or that other who's the comedian that does the I almost can't tell if I'm listening because I feel like whenever I hear Trump speak now, I've actually listened to an impression of Trump speaking.
Okay, this is the question.
I'm sure there's going to be some division here.
I'll ask the chat.
Do you really think that Iran is a threat to us or a threat to Israel?
Like, what is, and do you think they're really trying to take him out?
Because she seems pretty convinced.
I'm going to say I'm non-sequitur on this, meaning I actually don't know.
But do you think that's correct?
Or do you, where do you lean?
michael mendoza
Well, yeah.
So, I mean, so I'd probably disagree with this because, I mean, look at it.
Because, I mean, for the last however many months now, probably six months to a year now, I mean, Israel has really been provoking Iran.
And I mean, what have they done since then?
They sent like one very telegraphed attack with like hundreds of drones and missiles.
And they know that Israel has an iron dome.
But once it comes to war games, once it comes to showing that, you know, you care about your country and that you're not some weak little bitch and you're going to respond, like they had to do something.
So I think if Iran has kind of shown that much restraint, which by the way, I mean, now with the whole Hezbollah thing and everything, and then people's pagers and walkie-talkies blowing up, there still hasn't been any repercussions from that.
Now, you know, Grant, that's with Hezbollah.
It's kind of like a different entity, even though some people would say that they're all intertwined.
But I don't know.
I mean, I'm just not buying it.
And also, it is strange that, you know, with this Ryan Ruth guy or Crooks, like, I mean, they didn't have any ties to any foreign country except for Ukraine, I guess, with Ryan Ruth.
But now they're just running straight to Iran.
Like, I feel like people who are pushing this narrative in 20 years will kind of be like the people who were talking about weapons of mass destruction 20 years ago.
It's like, are you accusing Brian Umbrella?
Not even WMD.
elijah schaffer
No, I mean, like, because I mean, it's okay to disagree on a podcast.
Like, I think it's good.
Is that really the case?
Because my take on this is that Errol Gray is actually the expert in this topic.
No, I'm not going to make him speak.
earl gray
It's interesting that a desert country is attacking America or is the biggest threat to America.
That's interesting to me, like some random desert country that nobody knew like two days ago.
You know what I mean?
Like that's what I'm saying.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, Iran's mostly just talked about in terms of energy.
I'm saying like it is talked about as a threat, but I like, okay, here's my point.
There was a check to Iran.
There's always been a natural barrier, and that was Iraq.
Okay.
It is a famous war between the two countries where they lost 500,000 men and made no difference in ground.
Why would we take down Iraq, which has always been the greatest barrier to the Iran Islamic extremist government?
And so for me, I feel like we've been stoking a war with them.
I don't know where I lie on this just because like I like to think that Trump is informed and is not being retarded.
And actually, no, but I'm saying like he has intelligence information.
He still has access.
He's a former president.
From my understanding, he still has access.
breanna morello
He said he doesn't take those briefings anymore, though, because he's afraid that if they give him something, that they could use it against him.
elijah schaffer
Oh, okay.
Okay.
So All I'm saying is, is to me, with this situation, I agree, A, that Trump, the blowing the smithereens is just kind of Trump being Trump.
Okay?
Like when he threatened to blow, you know, the church.
earl gray
It's kind of sick.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
earl gray
When he says stuff like that, it's kind of sick.
elijah schaffer
We like that.
We like that.
earl gray
Yeah, you like the idea of that.
elijah schaffer
But I also don't like the fact of, I feel like people around him would benefit from a war with Iran.
And also, I think Israel would benefit from a war with Iran because I don't think Israel has the troop level to be the capabilities to go to war with Iran.
I don't personally.
I don't know if you believe that, but I don't think they actually could take them on.
breanna morello
Well, they would have to drag us into it like they do quite often.
And I think that would be the way to do it.
unidentified
So yeah, it's kind of sorry.
breanna morello
But seriously, that's what I honestly do think.
So I'm kind of tossed in between both of these at this point.
I don't think Iran is the biggest threat to the United States.
I truly believe it's China at this point.
And I don't even think it's Russia.
I do think it's just China.
And I think we're going to.
unidentified
I think so.
elijah schaffer
You know, I think so too.
If you go to the screen here, though, here's what Trump said directly.
He said, big threats on my life by Iran.
The entire U.S. military is watching and waiting.
Moves were already made by Iran that didn't work out, but they will try again.
Not a good situation for anyone.
I am surrounded by more men, guns, and weapons than I have ever seen before.
Thank you to the Congress for unanimously approving far more energy to Secret Service.
Zero novo, strictly bipartisan.
Nice to see Republicans and Democrats get together on something.
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