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March 14, 2024 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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PATRIOT ACT 2.0? Will TikTok Bill BAN ALT-TECH? | Guest: Joshua Smith

The debate RAGES ONLINE today.. is the so-called TikTok bill simply to ban Chinese influence in the US, or is it something more insidious — a trojan horse to set the stage for banning alt-tech platforms such as Gab and Rumble? Some people claim the bill specifically targets foreign-operated companies.. but what is the truth?Show more Joshua Smith from Break the Cycle joins us tonight to discuss this and more on this night’s episode of NIGHTLY OFFENSIVE! ➤ RUMBLE LINK: https://rumble.com/c/SlightlyOffensive __ ⇩SUPPORT THE SHOW⇩ ➤ JOIN CENSORED TV: Watch this FULL EPISODE ad free + EXCLUSIVE content at https://censored.tv/ promo code “OFFENSIVE” for 20% - Keep free speech media alive! ➤ JOIN THE PRIVATE LIVE COMMUNITY: https://elijahschaffer.locals.com/ ➤ NOTICER T-SHIRTS / MERCH: https://slightlyoffensive.com/ __ ⇩ SHOW SPONSORS⇩ ➤ HARTFORD GOLD: Contact Hartford Gold TODAY, the only precious metal dealer I trust — tell them I sent you and they’ll give you up to $5,000 dollars of FREE silver on your first order: https://offers.americanhartfordgold.com/content-affiliate/?&leadsource=affiliate&utm_sfcampaign=701Rb000007hx7FIAQ ➤ PARASITE CLEANSE: What if I told you - there is a hostile alien species that controls your appetite, emotions, sleep and focus - destroying your body from the inside out. PURGE SUDDENLY - Remove the parasites today! https://www.purgestore.com/ - Promocode ELIJAH for 10% OFF! ➤ UNDERTAC: Get the best pair of boxers in America that are breathable, don't ride up, and last the test of time. Plus, they are battle forces tested. http://www.undertac.com for 20% off with the offer code OFFENSIVE20. Satisfaction guaranteed or your money back. __ ⇩ELIJAH’S SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ X: https://X.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/SlightlyOffensive ➤ INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/slightlyoffensive.tv ➤ TELEGRAM https://t.me/SlightlyOffensive ➤ GAB: https://gab.com/elijahschaffer ⇩FOLLOW JOSHUA SMITH⇩ X: https://twitter.com/JoshuaAtLarge RUMBLE: https://rumble.com/c/BreakTheCycleJS YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@FightTheDespots __ ➤BOOKINGS + BUSINESS INQUIRIES: [email protected] __ ⇩EXCELLENT RESOURCES FOR KIDS ⇩ Head to https://bit.ly/teach-freedom for a unique book series that introduces the important ideas that schools no longer teach. Show less

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elijah schaffer
Well, I may be white, but when it comes to time, I am black.
We're always just a little bit late.
And that's because I'm in another hemisphere in Australia talking to you about the issues of my own home country.
Brian, if you can go to my screen here, whenever this guy comes on the screen, usually we know there's something bad, and whatever he's supporting, we probably should disagree with, considering the fact that not only has he lost his eye, which is terrible and we're not going to make fun of, but he's also seemed to have lost his half his mind as well.
I don't know if there's anything that's upset me more in this world than the fact that every single politician that's usually supported by major organizations, major groups turns out to be a total con job.
Dan Crenshaw here is talking about the new ban on TikTok, how we need to ban it.
And so it makes me wonder, perhaps, what's really going on here?
Is this Bill to Ban TikTok going to save our youth from cutting off their own penises and becoming transgender?
Or like the government typically does, is it a Trojan horse for something much deeper?
Are they trying to ban Rumble, ban X, get a hold on censorship ahead of the next election so that the deep state can keep its hands on control of everything?
I don't know, but I know we're going to be talking about it today, giving our best predictors.
We're talking about this story and so much more here on this episode of Knightly Offensive.
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unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
For those of you guys that are upset that the music doesn't keep playing, like I told you, we're just using a different software, which doesn't allow music to play over videos while I'm here in Australia, but I will be back.
And the dancing will return eventually, whether you like it or not.
You can't stop the dance.
I have a great guest today.
He's actually running for president in the Libertarian Party, but he's also a show host.
I don't need to give him much of an introduction at all.
Of course, I'm talking about none other than Joshua Smith.
Welcome to Knightly Offensive for the first time.
joshua smith
Yeah, of course.
Thank you for having me on.
I'm a big fan, so I'm happy to be here, man.
I appreciate you.
elijah schaffer
Dude, well, tell us about yourself, man.
Introduce yourself to people who don't know who you are.
What do you do?
Like I mentioned, you're running for president.
You're a family man.
You have a lot of kids.
I mean, you're a very interesting guy.
joshua smith
Yeah, you know, I joined the military right after 9-11 to go and protect my countrymen from the terrible terrorists that had attacked us.
And I found that war didn't really make much sense for the American public.
So I got out.
I was an American anti-war activist, four policy activists.
And I worked with Ron Paul in 2007, 2008, of course, on his campaign.
And then I got involved with the Libertarian Party in 2010.
I was the at-large representative from 2018 through 2022 on the LNC, so the Libertarian National Committee.
And then I was the vice chair of the LNC after that.
Of course, Ron Paul endorsed me famously in 2020 for chairman of the Libertarian National Committee.
I ended up losing that election.
I host a show called Break the Cycle every Tuesday and Thursday.
You can find that on every platform, but main platforms, Rumble, of course, and YouTube.
But YouTube seems to be kind of shadow banning our views.
Rumble, not so much.
So go check us out on either.
Of course, I'm also a dad of seven in my house currently.
We have ages 12, 11, 9, 6, 3, 1 and a half, and a newborn.
So some people have called me a prolific father.
I just think I'm barely making it work, but it's happening, you know.
And I'm running for president of the United States of America and I run it on a bold, brash platform to end the wars, combat the Federal Reserve, and put a focus back, a focus back on a strong family unit in the United States.
As many people know, with the institution of Title IV of the Social Security Act of 1971, we've gone from one in 60 kids living in a fatherless home to one in four.
And I think if you want to find a crux of the vast majority of the issues we're seeing today, that's where you'll find it.
elijah schaffer
So, yeah, well, I was going to say, I'm really happy to have you on because if you can handle seven children, I'm still trying to handle one and a wife, which is, as a man, you would know it's enough handling your own mind every day, just trying to deal with all the crazy thoughts that are in there and the battle that goes on spiritually.
And then you add kids to the mix.
I'm very happy that you joined us.
And I want to just jump right into this story for today to talk to you and get your opinion, man.
Because if you can go to my screen here, Brian, we're talking about what's going on here.
This is a very important issue.
A lot of people might not be interested in this, but this is actually about to set the precedent for speech on the internet as a whole.
Dan Crenshaw weighed in on this, and we're going to look at the text of the bill.
But he says, we just passed legislation out of the house that will separate TikTok from the Chinese Communist Party.
You've probably heard lies that this bill is a Trojan horse or that it doesn't solve every problem on the planet.
The truth is, this bill just says that TikTok can't be owned by our enemies.
I voted, hell yes.
Now, the current owner of TikTok, Byte Dance, is a Chinese company.
They're bound by Chinese surveillance law to give American data to the CCP.
And by the way, the CCP even has a board seat on Byte Dance.
Voting against this bill is a vote for the Chinese Communist Party.
The opponents of this bill aren't defending free speech.
They're defending Chinese access to American data and American minds.
Not a good look.
And I don't even want to listen to him speak, but we will watch him speak for the sake of it.
Here's what he had to say.
unidentified
My colleagues who I think are confused about the First Amendment, confused about the nature of TikTok, and confused about the intentions of the Chinese Communist Party.
Let me explain this really simple.
TikTok is owned by Byte Dance.
ByteDance is in China.
And when you're in China, you have to do whatever the Chinese Communist Party says you have to do.
That's according to the National Intelligence Law passed in 2017.
If they want you to spy for them, you will spy for them.
That's how that works.
They have a board member from the Chinese Communist Party on Byte Dance.
You wouldn't allow a radio tower owned by the Chinese to be put up right in the middle of Washington, D.C., and then allow it to just put out Chinese propaganda.
You probably complain about that.
That's exactly what TikTok can be used for because millions of Americans are addicted to it.
They see it, and the Chinese can absolutely manipulate those algorithms.
The First Amendment does not give the Chinese Communist Party the right to American data or the right to manipulate the minds of Americans.
That would be a really weird interpretation of the First Amendment.
The primary calculation.
All right.
elijah schaffer
I've heard enough of that.
Joshua.
joshua smith
It's like Nell's on a chalkboard, man.
elijah schaffer
I know.
I don't know why.
Yeah, there you go.
You know, it is pretty crazy to me, though, when we're listening to this, right?
He's talking about we need to ban this.
Now, we have to be so careful when we're seeing who's saying something because everyone can say something that sounds good.
Everyone can say something that appeals to us.
Even Biden says fantastic things.
I think he said that the economy is great.
Elizabeth Warren just said that Americans are doing better financially under Biden.
I mean, these are all fantastic things.
I don't want Biden even to fail.
So if it was true, that's great.
Let me get your initial thoughts on this.
Do you believe, Dan Crenshaw, that which is a real probability that he could be correct here, TikTok is a cancer on our society and that it is controlled by the communists as an intellectual weapon to dumb down our country, to introduce harmful ideas like transgender ideology while at the same time lowering our attention span and needs to be eradicated.
Or do you believe the people who are against this on our side saying, okay, yeah, it makes sense what he's saying, but it's a Trojan horse, meaning we agree on the TikTok, but the bill itself, the wording gives control to ban any platform.
And we know what they really want to ban is what we're live on right now, Rumble, and also to get back at Elon Musk on X. Or is it something different?
As a libertarian, as a father, as somebody who knows what's going on, I want to know what's going on.
What do you think is the case here?
joshua smith
Well, I think, first of all, if you're a parent that's letting your small children on TikTok, you probably need to rethink that.
Honest to God, it's, you know, listen, I have a TikTok.
I use TikTok for my campaign and all this stuff.
Well, here's, here's, IPatch McCain is basically just an extension of the national security state now.
That's all he is.
Anybody that's watched him in his 10 year knows that he doesn't give a shit about the American public.
It's all about the military industrial complex.
It's all about the national security state.
It's all about how much power he can grab for APAC and these, you know, these, these PACs that support him.
Look, you're using a phone right now and technology right now that has chips made in China.
Okay.
Tell me what the difference is with the videos on TikTok and the videos on Twitch and the videos on Twitter and the videos on Facebook.
I mean, this transgender ideology and this, you know, this kind of movement for wokeism is happening everywhere.
It's not just happening on TikTok.
So like it being a tool to try and push this agenda just kind of is like everything is a tool to push this agenda in the United States right now.
The communists infiltrated in 19 in the 1970s.
I mean, Yuri Besmanoff was warning us.
He defected from the KGB in Soviet Russia and came here and told us like, hey, we're right now infiltrating all of your all of your institutions, your churches, your governments, your academia, all of it, everything.
And they've been doing this for years and years and years.
And the attack on the family and making effeminate weak men.
I mean, this is something that they've been doing for years and years and years.
It didn't just start with TikTok.
This is a Trojan horse.
It's absolutely a Trojan horse.
And, you know, Dan Crenshaw says, hey, we wouldn't let the Chinese come over here and put up a tower in the middle of DC or whatever, right?
But you know what else?
You know what else we wouldn't let happen?
We wouldn't go to China and let China tell us that like if Ford wanted to operate in China, then they have to own Ford.
Guarantee you bet your ass that not a single person in America would agree with that.
And that's basically what we're doing here.
We're telling them because your company may work with the Chinese government that you have to divest your company and someone has to own it in America.
Like this is an unprecedented thing.
This is the Patriot Act for the internet.
I mean, this is exactly what it is.
It is a Trojan horse.
It's absolutely going to be used to trash and take away any website that they don't like.
I mean, this is what the federal government in the United States has wanted for a long time.
Not only does it take, give them the right to go through and take out things like X and Rumble and Odyssey and all these companies, which they've already gone at Odyssey, right?
But it also is going to give all the power to Facebook.
We know if anybody's followed along with this shit for the last decade, I mean, we don't want Facebook to have all the market cap in this space.
And that's what it does.
It will give it all to Facebook.
And so, yeah, it's a really ugly Trojan horse.
And, you know, it sucks because just like the Patriot Act, all the worst shit this country goes through always has bipartisan support.
I mean, 15 Republicans voted no on this.
That's it.
That's the only support for the no's that we had in Congress.
And, you know, and it doesn't even have a sunset clause.
So like, this doesn't even sunset.
They're going to use this through every election forever.
If you've, if you've watched anything, you know, anything at all with the national security state, you know that this is their goal.
This is what they want.
They want full and total control of the narrative of information.
And this is just another stepping, one of the biggest stepping stones, maybe ever, at least since like they couldn't pass this, but that they can pass this.
I mean, you know what's going on.
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah.
And I think, I think it's fair that we can agree on two things.
Like TikTok is garbage.
joshua smith
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But it's, it's also like a lot of things are garbage.
Like, I mean, I know that McDonald's is garbage, but I ate it the other day.
So sometimes you got to.
Well, that's my point is it's like, I mean, how many people watching this struggle with pornography?
Probably a lot.
And they probably would all universally agree it's bad and it should be banned.
But as long as it's not banned, they're still going to access it.
And even if something is banned, we know people will access it.
My only problem with this is two things.
I get nervous when I see our government trying to do something that they claim could actually benefit us.
And I wonder what they're hiding behind it.
Because anytime they try to benefit us, it ends up being simply a mask to get people like us on board to promote their ideology.
Now, some of my own colleagues on other shows are supporting this bill because they're retarded.
And unfortunately, that's just true.
They just, they care about money and a lot of them have been unsuccessful on TikTok.
So they actually want it banned because they get mad at the younger people that are more successful on TikTok than they are on YouTube and stuff.
So they support the bill out of just spite because they want to see their careers go down the road.
I hate TikTok because TikTok created this.
We're going to go back to the bill.
But Dylan Mulvaney, which we don't like to cover on this show, is a product of TikTok.
This is what TikTok has created.
And Dylan came out with a new music video that I'm not happy exists.
But I'm going to make you all watch it.
Here we go.
unidentified
Got my dolls by my side.
These are the days.
These are the days.
These are the days of girl.
elijah schaffer
All right.
Josh, that's what I want to hit on that point here since we can all agree, right?
TikTok created this.
Would banning TikTok, can this undo this?
Like we have Dylan Mulvaney music videos now.
You know what I'm saying?
joshua smith
Here's the thing, though.
Did TikTok create this?
I mean, Jeffree Star was doing this on MySpace, right?
Like 20 years ago.
And it's like, and so like, so like, yeah, Dylan has like a much bigger platform than Jeffree Star had 20 years ago on MySpace, but like it's, it's not, it didn't create this that like society created this.
Like a society of weak people created this, like made men feel like they could be effeminate, right?
Like like, I mean, it's, it's, you know, I hesitate to say that TikTok created this.
Like this is a trend that's been trending this way since the 80s, right?
Like this, you know, the whole emo phase, like I don't know if you were a part of the scene and all that.
Of course, I was too.
I mean, it was like huge in, you know, the early 2000s and to the mid-2000s.
And like, like this was happening then, too.
Like this is, you know, Dylan's obviously trying to like troll everybody.
I mean, really, this is, you know, this is the days of girlhood.
That's apparent or womanhood or whatever.
Like, it's obviously a big troll to like on purpose because the hate gives him the, it gives him all the platform.
I mean, that's what it is.
That's how he's built his platform was through the hate.
And so like, I hesitate to say that TikTok created this.
I think TikTok might have given a bigger platform to this, but it's been going on since the 80s.
There's just no doubt about that.
And, you know, I said it last night on the show.
I've said it on a ton of other shows over the last, you know, 10 years.
We're at a point now in the circular diagram, right?
Where we're either the tough men that create good times or our kids are going to have to be the tough men who create good times.
And, you know, it's kind of the cycle how things go, you know, and the communist agenda has weakened America.
It's weakened tough men.
It's weakened families.
It's weakened faith and religion.
It's weakened all the things that would combat this stuff.
And it's part of the plan.
And so we either got to fight that or we lose.
And so like, so like, yeah, or is China like a threat to America?
That's another thing too, right?
Like we get this, we get in this like, especially with the neocons, we get in this like crazy kind of like circular argument about China being this huge threat in the United States and how we, you know, and now we, now the whole thing is like this, this war over Taiwan, right?
Like we, we, we have basically big brothered Taiwan since Nixon, right?
We told Taiwan in the 70s, like, okay, well, don't fuck with China or we might not protect you.
And then we told China, like, don't mess with Taiwan or we might protect them.
And it's worked.
We've never had to say, we've never said we were going to war with China.
China's not a threat to us.
China's like a paper economy.
There's like millions, millions and millions, hundreds of millions of people living in like abject poverty.
They have cities that are completely abandoned.
Like it's not, it's not what people think it is at all.
And so like, there's this whole tripwire for war now with Taiwan.
And so like, they're going to build up this whole like war with the CCP thing because this is how they make their money, right?
Like this is how the people in Congress make their money.
I mean, people walk into Congress with 20 bucks in their pocket and walk out with, you know, $200 million.
I mean, they're making money, right?
And like the military industrial complex has to make their money.
And to continue to do that, they have to continue these, you know, these crazy wars all over the world.
And if that means war with China, if that means war with Russia, if that means war with Iran or any of the other Middle Eastern countries, they're going to get it.
And so this is just another step in that to me.
And I think that, you know, Massey brings up some really good points about this that, you know, all the stuff they're saying about TikTok specifically has been happening for a long time anyways.
You know, half the shit we use in the United States today is made in China.
And a lot of that is because of the monetary policies and the regulations in the United States.
I mean, really, we have a government that pushed businesses out to other countries and then bitches about other countries having businesses that operate in the United States.
So like, really, you know, none of these guys are American first.
The only, the only people I can say that are American first that actually care are the 15 that voted no, right?
Because they know that this is going to be used for, it's going to, it's going to harm Americans.
And Massey said this in his address to Congress.
He said that we're not going to prosecute China over this, right?
Like this is not how this is going to work.
We're going to prosecute the people who hold servers that run TikTok.
And those are Americans.
Like they're looking to prosecute Americans.
They can't do anything to China over this whatsoever.
Nothing at all.
They could prosecute Americans.
And that's what this is all about because they're going to, once they have that precedent to do it for Americans here, for their servers and websites, then they're going to do it to everybody.
They're coming after Elon.
Guaranteed they're coming after Elon.
They're going after Rumble.
They've already gone after Odyssey.
They don't want any websites out there where we can freely talk about, I mean, all kinds of things, you know, the counter Semitism, right?
Like there's like a, there's a noticing movement.
They don't want people talking about that.
They don't want people talking about the warfare state.
They don't want people talking about the COVID regime and their terrible, terrible tyranny that they pulled on us over the last four years.
They don't want people talking about this.
And they made that very clear when they worked with Twitter to have us removed from Twitter before Elon bought it.
So like, so like, this is all just smoke and mirrors.
The federal government has always been about smoke and mirrors to gain more power, gain more money.
And it's just another step in that direction.
Absolutely, 100%.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, because I, you know, I want to ban it, but I get afraid because they never, they always try to give us security and then they take away our rights and our freedoms in that way.
And you already see it's gone down hard, man.
I mean, I haven't talked about it publicly yet, but, you know, I got demonetized on X for doing my job.
And I'm the only one I know of that hasn't gotten remonetized after they did a manual review and said like that they didn't, you know, they looked at my profile and they don't align with my values.
And this is new.
This happened actually like three days ago.
And originally they had demonetized it for sharing a story.
And I think I'm one of the only journalists to get demonetized for sharing a story.
It was an anti-government story.
And they claimed that it was like inciting violence, but it was actually just a breaking news story about this guy named Justin Moon.
And they claim that it was like, you know, incendiary.
And I'm like, you know, as a credentialed journalist, it currently works for a large publication that has millions of daily readers sharing a important story.
When you're telling me I can't share stuff like that, when people are self-emolating, when people are, you know, bombing Palestinians, just killing children, and I can't share a story of a guy who's critical of the U.S. government.
That's an interesting choice considering what's on X every day.
And you go, well, you know, maybe they just don't want to monetize you.
No, they deleted my posts.
They took them down.
They took down my posts.
And they go, well, it was uncensored.
I go, no, I re-uploaded it.
It's censored.
And I censored the graphic parts and I took everything out.
And then they deleted.
They kept deleting any time I mentioned this guy's name.
Then they blocked this guy, Justin Moan's name, from their search.
And then they demonetized me.
And it's been really rough.
And it's like, how did I get demonetized on X?
It wasn't even racism or anti-Semitism or anything.
It was sharing an anti-government video.
And it wasn't even because I supported it.
It was because that's just what the guy was talking about, about the government.
And he wasn't citing violence against the U.S. government.
But I mean, to be fair, it's a breaking news story.
It's what was going on.
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Someone said the audio went out.
Okay, I don't know if that's true.
Do you know if the audio went out there?
joshua smith
Oh, talking about the producer or me?
I don't know.
I can hear you just fine, but I'm not watching the stream.
So who knows?
unidentified
Cool.
All right.
elijah schaffer
Well, someone said that the audio had went out.
So that's all right.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
Let's go ahead and let's keep continuing on.
So what I was going to say is what's crazy is Thomas Massey talked about it.
If you go to my screen here, Brian, Thomas Massey said, today I claimed 20 minutes in opposition to the TikTok ban bill and yielded time to several like-minded colleagues.
This bill gives the president far too much authority to determine what Americans can see and do on the internet.
This is my closing statement before I voted no.
And so I want to watch it.
It's a little long.
It's three and a half minutes.
But I wanted to look at the opposition because when Thomas Massey is against something and Dan Crenshaw is for something, just on their reputations of being liars and snakes, I'm more likely to back up Thomas on this one.
So check this out.
thomas massie
He's recognized.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I know the other side is sincere, and we've not questioned that here today, and I won't question their sincerity.
In fact, I think they've identified at least three problems that we have in America.
Moral decay of our society, invasion of Americans' privacy, and our competitiveness with China.
But in this case, their cure is worse than the diseases.
You know, there are ways to get at these root problems.
We just haven't taken it upon ourselves to address those root problems with actual legislative solutions that have been put forth here in Congress.
For instance, Mr. Warren Davidson's, the Fourth Amendment is not for sale act, would put a strong stake in the ground to protect Americans' privacy, whether it's from our own government or some foreign governments.
That is the kind of thing we need.
We need warrants in the FISA program.
You shouldn't be able to, our government shouldn't be able to spy on Americans without a warrant.
Yet they are.
Let's bring that to the floor and vote on it.
These are the kind of cures we need, not the bill that's offered here today.
The bill that's offered here today, even though I know it's offered genuinely, it could also be named the Facebook Protection and Enhancement Act.
Because it's not the American people are going to benefit most from this.
It will be Facebook.
Their stock is going to go up if this bill should pass the Senate.
Now, what are some ways that we could improve this bill?
Well, it should at least have a sunset.
I mean, that's the only reason we're able to debate whether FISA should have warrants in it, because it sunsets.
And what have we observed?
FISA's been abused.
That's my concern with this TikTok ban.
It will be abused.
If it's just banning TikTok and Byte Dance and copies of that, why does it need to be 13 pages long?
And I know they say it doesn't ban it.
It forces divestiture of the company.
This sounds like when American companies try to do business in third world countries and a dictator says, well, you can do business here.
You just got to give me your company.
And now you can continue to do business.
We wouldn't let another country take over Ford Motor Company for selling Ford cars in their country.
Yet that's what we're wanting to do here.
And again, you know, this is a cure that is worse than the disease.
Who's going to be prosecuted by this bill?
Is it ByteDance or TikTok?
Will they be taken to court?
No.
I mean, they're the target of this, but how do you elicit or effect a ban on them?
By prosecuting Americans.
The only way you can ban TikTok and the other companies from being here is to say what this bill says, which is we will bring civil action.
The government will bring a civil action suit against you if you so much as host them here.
If you have an app store that allows them to be here, you are an American or an American company and you will be the target of this bill.
Those are the only people who can be pursued under this bill.
And I know it's in order to go after TikTok, or so they say.
Well, I would just close by saying that, you know, we're sitting here with phones made in China.
We're wearing suits made in China.
We drove cars here with chips that are made in China.
And they're our foreign adversary.
And by golly, we're going to do something about it.
elijah schaffer
What are we going to do?
thomas massie
You're going to tell Americans they can't put a piece of software on their computer.
They can't go to certain websites that the president designates.
So I urge my colleagues to oppose this well-intentioned bill because it will have bad consequences.
And I yield back the balance of my time.
elijah schaffer
Well, I mean, yeah, I just want to get your take on that.
I mean, that was, I know these episodes sometimes, guys, when we're talking about bills and stuff, for some reason, they just don't do as well in terms of numbers.
People aren't that interested.
And that really is sad.
And I get why, though, is that whenever we're talking about a bill or something, nobody actually cares.
They'll care about some white girl getting her head bastion, which you should care about.
They'll care about, you know, like the drama in the moment.
But the things that actually cause the problems, like these bills, right?
When you see what's happening in January 6th, everybody's mad about January 6th, but not knowing that a huge reason why the police state has been so effective is because of the Patriot Act.
There is literally a bill that gives this authority to the intelligence agencies, and they've increased their budget, their coordination, their communication, and they're able to pull these warrants to spy on American citizens under the guise of domestic terrorism charges.
So you get mad at January 6th, not realizing that that wouldn't have been possible if we had stopped the Patriot Act, which Massey actually did work on stopping.
And then we look at this and it's like, bro, I hate TikTok as much as anybody else.
But at the same time, like he said, this is going to be used to go after American companies.
And I don't think it's going to be used to go after the app stores to stop them from hosting TikTok.
I think it's going to be used to go after sites like Rumble and X, like I said, and to stop those conversations.
Because like you said, did TikTok do this?
Or did the Jews do this?
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
I mean, that's a, that's a, it's kind of a joke, but, but I just mean, like, what are we going to do, right?
You're going back to this and you want to say who's causing these problems in our country.
Is it really China?
Are they the ones that, who own the slave ships?
You know, you don't like, you don't like having the race relations here?
Find out who brought the black people here.
You don't like slavery?
Who brought them here?
Oh, you don't like porn?
You don't like sexualizing children?
Who pushed for pornography to be legalized, right?
These are good questions you should ask yourself and wonder, why are we always attacking every other country app and software rather than going to the source of the problem?
Well, that's because we are figuring out what the source of the problem is.
Like you mentioned earlier, there's a big noticing campaign going on.
People don't like it.
Candace Owens is noticing.
People are out there speaking about this stuff and they don't want us talking about it.
So they're trying to shut us up.
I think this all has to do with not talking about who's behind everything because the stopping anti-Semitism on campuses, all this stuff is because everyone's realizing what's going on and it's getting out of control.
And so they've got to do something serious.
And the way they're going to do that is by trying to protect students on campus and protect children online and make it look good.
But really, they're just trying to shut us all up.
joshua smith
Oh, and Greenblatt's going to have every, I mean, look, here's the deal.
And this is, I think it's like page 10 or 11.
It's towards the back end of this, this bill.
It does give the president like the full power to basically just shut down websites.
I mean, really, that's what it does at the end of the day.
And you know damn well that the ADL and Greenblat and these guys are going to be calling, you know, every time they are offended.
They're going to be calling DC like, hey, this website is anti-Semitic.
It needs to be shut down.
Like, it's going to happen.
Absolutely going to happen.
And it sucks.
Like, look, look, I sympathize.
I'm a libertarian, okay?
People understand that libertarians, we're really like anti-just like banning shit all the time.
And but I sympathize because I am, you know, at my heart, I'm kind of like a, like a Christian nationalist.
Of course, I'm very religious and even really Orthodox Christian at this point doing catechism and all this stuff.
But so like, so like, I, I, I sympathize with the like movement to ban this shit.
Like I do, I get it.
I understand.
Like, I don't want, I don't want my kids to ever be in a situation where they might have to see this agenda and play out in front of them.
That's, but that's also why we homeschool our kids and we don't let them go to like normal everyday shit.
And we monitor what they do if they have the internet and we monitor the shows they watch.
Like, parents are supposed to, you know, that's what we're supposed to do.
That's like our job.
But like, I sympathize with people, but also I understand.
And some, you know, my friends that are Republicans and conservatives, they don't want to hear this shit, but they need to hear it.
Like every single thing that you push to try and ban the other side will be used against you tenfold.
I promise you.
We've watched it forever.
And, you know, my first noticing, you know, as a young adult was when I looked back on Waco.
Okay.
Now, you can say whatever you want about David Koresh.
He might have been the biggest piece of shit in the world.
Maybe you're right about that.
I don't know.
Okay.
But he was selling legal guns.
Okay.
The ATF could have came and picked him up.
He took a morning jog every morning by himself on these country roads.
They could have nabbed him at any time.
They went out to all these gun shows.
He could have nabbed him.
They could have nabbed him at any of these gun shows, right?
Like there were so many opportunities.
But what happened was, you know, Janet Reno and then the ATF was like, it was right about the time for the budget committee hearings.
They needed to get a bigger budget.
They actually called before the siege.
They actually called every media, like large media company in the country and said, hey, we're going to lay siege to this place.
You guys need to get out here.
Like they called the media to come and watch it so that they could go on the media and say, look, we have a problem with domestic terrorism.
These guys are raping little girls and they have a plan to kill ATF agents and kill all these people.
So they laid siege to this place on national television, international television.
And then, you know, because of that, they got the budgets they wanted, right?
And they just continue to do shit like that.
You got to understand.
This is something that people need to understand about the national security state and just the federal government in general.
The way the budgets work, if you don't spend your whole budget, you're not getting that budget in the next budgetary year, right?
And if you go over your budget, you have the opportunity to ask for a bigger budget.
So like, that's how these government, like this, this bureaucratic state or whatever Vivek wanted to call it, right?
The administrative state, this is how they work.
This is literally how they work.
They continue to push for bigger budgets so that they could, you know, militarize and get all these new toys and do all these crazy things, but they have to have a villain.
You have to have a villain.
It's the same with the military industrial complex, right?
It's even the same to some extent with the academia, the media, like they have to have a villain.
If you don't have a villain, you can't operate.
You can't continue to raise money.
It just doesn't work that way, right?
It's the same in politics, right?
Like we have to hate that guy.
They have to hate us because that's how we raise money.
And like, that's the, that's like the rut we're in as a society in the United States.
And so after Waco, and you know, I joined the military after 9/11, and then I saw how 9-11 was used to push war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, TSA, all these things that were supposed to sundown, all these crazy gun laws that, you know, Reagan passed.
And then, of course, everybody since him, all the way up through Trump, even passed all these crazy gun regulations to make our society, you know, harder and tougher on guns and make it harder for peaceful, law-abiding citizens.
Now we can just print them in our basement.
So it doesn't matter anymore.
Debate's over.
But the truth is, it's like these things are always used to push a political agenda all the time.
And if you think that this is any different, if you think this is any different, boy, I got a bridge to sell you in Arizona, right?
Like waterfront property to sell you in Arizona.
Like there's, there's no, absolutely no way that they're not going to abuse this.
And it does, I don't care, Democrat, Republican, all the worst shit in America finds bipartisan support.
And this is no different for a reason because they want that power.
They want to be able to use that power in election years.
And the Republicans that are voting for it are thinking, all right, this will be good for us when it's our turn, right?
But like, we just are stuck in this like back and forth cycle forever about like, you know, you know, we got to use this power on them.
And then four years later, they're going to use this power tenfold on us.
And it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
And at some point, you know, the national security state is going to run your house, you know, entirely.
They're going to completely monitor and feed all the information you're allowed to have on the internet.
That's what this is going to cause.
This is what's going to cause for you.
And we're all shut down.
I mean, people like me, people like Elijah, people like even like Tim Poole.
I mean, they'll shut them down.
You're done, right?
Like, there's absolutely no way that they will continue to let us operate once they have the power to shut us down.
It's just, it's how it is.
And, you know, we're only lying to ourselves if we're saying that's not the truth.
elijah schaffer
Well, and I have to agree with you on that.
And I, I think that's why these conversations are important because, you know, it's like, I have to make this episode with you because when what we're saying is true and it becomes truth, I just need to have this as like a bookmark.
You know, this is like, look, there's a lot of shit I want to talk about today, but we have to speak out against this because this is really alarming and it's passed, which is which is not mind-blowing, but it's like, dude, I'm agreeing with people from the Heritage Foundation.
Let's bring up this thread.
I want to read this.
This is crazy.
It's like, okay, so Kevin Roberts breaks this down here.
And I'd rather give him the credit directly his words.
As Congress prepares to vote on the Protect Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, that's a mouthful.
It's crucial to question why TikTok doesn't opt for the divestment instead of exaggerating concerns over a potential ban it isn't obligated to face.
The answer lies in TikTok's deep connection to the CCP through its parent company, ByteDance.
Beijing-based ByteDance is subject to the People's Republic of China's laws and policies that permit the CCP's access to the data it collects.
Chinese officials, former and current, are embedded in TikTok's parent company and involved in companies' inner workings through an internal corporate CCP committee and board seat, ByteDance domestic subsidiary.
Leaked recordings and testimony from ex-employees revealed that the CCP has supreme access to all TikTok data with China-based engineers accessing non-public American user data.
TikTok was even implicated in an attempt to surveil the locations of American journalists by ByteDance employees.
Beyond this, TikTok consistently censors content suppressing information on China's Uyghur population genocide, Hong Kong protests, Tibetan independence, and generally critical topics of the CCP.
This doesn't even scratch the surface of China's noxious influence on our next generation as TikTok becomes a primary news source.
Reports indicate that TikTok attempted to manipulate public opinion in 2022, blah, blah, blah.
Americans don't owe China anything, don't owe them the right to spy on or manipulate our citizens.
The First Amendment doesn't extend to the CCP.
So it says this bill is narrow and targeted, written so that it only applies to social media apps, associated websites controlled by China, yada, yada, yada.
Okay, so it's like, I agree with his take that we don't owe China anything, that this app is destructive.
And I want to clarify this before I come against the bill, I actually don't support TikTok because I've noticed I can't, I have a really hard time making on TikTok.
I've lost like six accounts and I noticed that they delete videos that I put that are true and they're not even, and sometimes they're not even, they don't even give a reason.
They just say, this went against our community guidelines.
And I've had it where they've deleted a video for like hate and harassment and then I get them to reinstate it because I go, this video, hate and harassment, this is a video about sewer systems collapsing in Los Angeles or something.
Like it's sewer system.
I'm talking about the sewer systems.
What does it have to do with anything?
Then they'll reinstate the video and then delete it and say it violates our community standards.
And you're going, wait, I don't understand.
And then I look up something and realize that there's some connection, yeah, to a foreign government or there's somebody running a race.
And you're going, okay, there's definitely TikTok is bullshit, especially because people go to it for news.
They are selective on what you can talk about.
They're the most selective.
I was talking about with the YouTube audience how I want to stop.
I really want to stop streaming on YouTube eventually before the end of this year, because it's pointless to even stream there because there's so much censorship.
We, about every three to four months, the last year and a half, they've removed almost all of our videos or seven to 10 videos.
And then our views were suspended for a week and then our viewers are cut by half when we return.
And they've like successfully shut the live stream down from like 2,500 people live down to like 300 or 400 in a matter of a year by just deleting and deleting our watch hours, deleting our time.
It's not like they're like necessarily putting a kill switch and making people not watch.
They just delete your watch hours and then that takes down your recommendations and the algorithms.
Very, very smart stuff.
joshua smith
They're doing the same thing to us right now on YouTube for sure.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
So you know what I'm talking about.
So they delete that stuff.
You lose your watch hours.
I've lost all my catalogs.
They made me delete four years of videos or they were going to delete the whole channel recently.
Last year, they were like, everything's got to be deleted off the channel.
You're going to lose your whole channel.
So it's crazy how they censor and I hate it.
And then people on YouTube, this is why we lose.
People watching on YouTube are like, well, I don't like Rumble.
Okay.
Well, you know what?
Like Rumble sucks.
You know what?
Rumble does kind of suck.
But you know what sucks more than Rumble is if we didn't have it.
And you know what sucks more than Rumble is censorship.
And so it's, we're just lazy.
And people are watching.
They're like, well, yeah, I don't really like watching there.
We'll enjoy it because your worldview is fucked up because you don't want to watch.
You don't care about truth enough to go to a website that's a little bit less tech savvy to get your information.
And that's the truth.
They know that we're lazy.
At the core of our heart, we are very lazy people.
We say we like the truth.
We care about the truth as long as it's super easy to access.
It's in our face and it's recommended to us.
And I'm not saying I'm better than anyone doing that.
Maybe you live in a country where Rumble doesn't exist.
So that's also the case too.
But if your excuse is, it's just too difficult to do.
It's like, oh, that's fine.
But eventually everyone you know that tells the truth is going to be off YouTube or you're not going to find them anymore.
And when I mean eventually, I mean, within the next two years.
So like you're not, it's not around the corner.
And I think they know that we're lazy, man.
And so it censorship works.
That's why they do it.
And they know humans and the way we are.
And so then they do this and it effectively cuts people off.
However, I'm not giving up the fight.
I know you're not too.
I know you have a lot of thoughts on this.
I'd love to hear you go out.
joshua smith
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing.
The vast majority of the people are just retarded.
I mean, that's at the end of the day, that's really the truth.
You talk about it, you know, when you're talking about how you do a show about the bill and you get half the viewers or whatever, right?
And that's like, it's the truth, man.
That's really how it is.
When you do something that's like important, when you talk about something that's like important, like a bill that can literally shut us all down.
I mean, I 100% believe that it will be used to shut us down on any website that we're on telling the truth.
I believe that 100% in my heart.
I've watched the federal government operate for long enough now to understand that this is what this means for us.
And so like, so like, yeah, it's, it is hard.
And YouTube, you know, we, there was a, there was a point on YouTube where we were making, you know, maybe two to $3,000 a month on just doing YouTube, just streaming to YouTube only, and then having it automatically sync up to Odyssey, right?
And we're down to like, we're down to like less than 300 bucks a month now, man.
I mean, and it's, and it's been really, it's truthfully, like our viewer count just continues to drop.
They constantly kick like subscribers off our YouTube all the time.
They don't put our live streams in the algorithm anymore.
And it's like, it is a soft censorship.
I mean, that's really, you know, they have the right to do that, right?
And like, and it's funny because we're talking about TikTok and how they manipulate this and they spy on people, but like, is our government doing anything different when it comes to social media?
Absolutely not.
They literally worked with Twitter to shut us down during the COVID regime, right?
And during the last election, like it's not any different than what our government's doing.
They just want to be the only ones to be able to do it, right?
And so like, you know, I man, I wish people would pay attention to this stuff more often.
And like, that's part of the reason why I'm doing this campaign too.
It's like, you know, it's not, it's not like I'm a libertarian.
I'm running as a libertarian.
And, you know, I'm under no illusion that I'm going to win the presidency, right?
Like, that's just stupid to think that I'm going to come in in 2024 and win the presidency.
But what I can do is get the nomination to go on a 50-state media tour, talk about these very important issues in front of the electorate, these people that actually do read the bills and actually do vote, right?
Not just the people who watch shows.
I appreciate you for watching the shows and trying to educate yourself, but there's a vast majority of the people who vote out there that don't watch these shows and do read bills and do pay attention to the news and do watch, you know, Congress committee hearings and stuff like that.
So like, so like. you know, we need more people.
And I hate to say this and a lot of people don't want to hear this either, but like, you need to run for office, man.
This is, this is, you know, along with the noticing and kind of this like counterculture, like counterrevolutionary movement to like, you know, be a like a normal society with like normal families that like, you know, own homes and can own homes again and like all these things that are like counter culture now, just being normal.
Like if you really want to see that reinstated, you got to go out and tell people.
And the best way you're going to be able to do that is run for like your local board or like run for state rep or run for, you know, run for state Congress or any of these things.
I mean, that's really, you're going to get in front of people who vote a lot quicker that way than you will just just doing shows all the time.
And so like, that's why I'm doing this because it gives me the opportunity to go out and I know I'm a third party guy.
And maybe, you know, maybe we get like one quinipac poll and poll at 15%.
They put me in the debate.
And then I get to debate Donald Trump and Joe Biden, but I get to say all these things to America like on a big stage.
And so, you know, it's, it's not going to stop.
Like it's not just going to stop.
Like a lot of people, I think they have it in their heads that like it's just going to stop.
And like, if we're not brave, if we don't step up now and start saying the things that need to be said, said and doing the things that need to be done, right?
Like, like if you're worried about being called a racist or an anti-Semite or a homophobe or a transphobe, like you're not brave because you're going to be called those things.
I get called a racist.
I got called a racist the other day for saying we need to end the Federal Reserve, man.
elijah schaffer
Like it's I only invited you on the show because you're racist.
I mean, that's, hey, that's, you know, I can't be friends with someone.
If somebody hasn't been called a racist, a homophobe, or an anti-Semite, I can't even have them over for dinner.
I don't trust them around my children.
You know what I mean?
Like people are like, it's like, dude, if you're, if you, if you promote gay people, like you can't come around my children.
And look, and that doesn't mean if you're gay, I look, I'm not talking about that.
I mean, I saw a clip from Gavin McGinnis the other day where he was like, it was so funny.
He's like, you know, when you're, when 20 years ago, when your kid came home and said something homophobic, you'd be a little concerned because you'd be like, man, I hope my kid isn't like a complete dick and just like bullying kids because they're a little weak or something and get in trouble.
And he goes, now your kid comes home and says something homophobic.
And you go, hell yeah, that's good.
That means he's not going to be groomed and he's awake and he knows what's going on because we went quickly from like, you know, being homophobic meant like literally bashing the heads in of like gay kids to homophobic means I don't want people teaching my children about gay sex.
Like, and that's considered homophobic now.
So being homophobic is really good.
Being being anti-Semitic is really good because anti-Semitism means like if you point out, you say, I don't want Palestinian kids to die, helpless deaths, that's anti-Semitic.
And so if fighting for children is anti-Semitism, then that's good.
And I always get taken out of context.
You know, I always say Elijah said with a presidential candidate, anti-Semitism is good.
And he nodded his head yes.
And you're like, well, yeah, if you're a retard, you would, you would take this out of context.
But if you understand what we're saying, is all these words have lost their meaning.
I want to play this video for you because I want to talk about your presidential campaign.
unidentified
Sure.
elijah schaffer
I want to talk about some of this stuff.
When we're talking about why this bill got introduced and what it is and who wants it banned, the thing about TikTok is, is there's a lot of noticing going on on TikTok.
joshua smith
Yeah, you're allowed to do counter-Semitism on it.
unidentified
Allowed.
elijah schaffer
You can't talk about white people, though.
That's no Hitler stuff, not that stuff.
But you can, you can do the, you can be against Israel on TikTok.
I promise you that it is possible.
Now, watch this video.
unidentified
This is a, this guy's awesome.
elijah schaffer
He's going to be coming on the show.
joshua smith
Yeah.
He's amazing.
He needs way more, way bigger platform.
He's amazing.
elijah schaffer
Check this out.
He's a big TikToker.
This is crazy.
unidentified
So they're pushing another TikTok ban, Bill, really hard.
joshua smith
But something does not add up about it at all.
unidentified
Bro, I've been trying to wrap my head around this for the last couple days and nothing was making sense until I stumbled upon this leaked recording.
First off, what I'm about to get into is highly controversial.
It's extremely sensitive, so I'm going to have to be really careful about it.
This leaked recording is from about four or five months ago.
It's Jonathan Greenblatt.
He is the head of the Anti-Defamation League.
And so we really have a TikTok problem, a Gen Z problem.
Because again, like we've been chasing this left right divide, it's the wrong game.
The real game is the next generation.
And our community needs to put the same brains that gave us tech lead, the same brains that gave us all these other amazing innovations.
We need to put our energy towards this.
Michael Past.
Clear as day.
We have a generational problem.
We have a TikTok problem.
And we're going to need to put all our energy into this.
And if there's any lobby that owns more U.S. politicians, it is this one.
I can't really say it out loud, but this is the one.
Democrats and Republicans alike fear this lobby's clout.
We can count on well over half the House, 250 to 300 members, to do reflexively whatever they want.
In 24 hours, we could have the signatures of 70 senators on this napkin.
Literally playing out right before our very eyes.
There's also this Time magazine article that just came out, why TikTok needs to be sold or banned before the 2024 election.
The article barely even mentions China or election security.
Almost the entirety of it focuses solely on this issue right here.
Another chart from the article.
And the ironic thing is that, yes, it's true.
A foreign government has infiltrated the U.S., except it's just not the country they want you to think it is.
elijah schaffer
All right, let's see if we can get some well-well-wells in the chat here, some triple W's.
And by the way, I have to explain this because, like, can I just say this?
You know, people are always like just hating everybody when we talk about this issue.
I have Jewish people on the show all the time who are awake to what's going on.
Okay.
Just because you're white does not mean that I think that you support crazy white women that are, you know, pushing their children to be trans or whatever like that.
You know, just because you're Hispanic doesn't mean I assume you promote illegal immigration or you, you know, are on board with it.
And just because you're black does not mean that I think you're a hood rat.
I think there's a high chance you could be, but not that you are.
But I'm just saying, as, you know, joking aside, they co-op talking about, there's like, like, that's what you said to be careful saying it because we're still on YouTube.
joshua smith
You do.
elijah schaffer
But it's like, what he's saying is there's, when you say the Jews, there's two different groups, right?
There's people who are just ethnically Jewish who may be politically unmotivated, have no idea what's going on in the world and have no concern, or may even be on your side and know that there's this other group that claims that they represent all the Jews and they use the Holocaust and anti-Semitism as shields to prevent any criticism.
And that group, that second group is evil.
So not everybody who is Jewish is evil.
And I think some people think that.
I don't think that.
But I think that I know I have a lot of good Jewish friends who are great people.
But this Jewish lobby that claims to represent Jewish people, this AI PAC, this group, is 100% an enemy of the United States, is 100% behind a lot of the shenanigans in our country.
And they have control of a lot of people.
And I know that because I've told people, I've had people say all types of things about me.
I've had crazy interactions.
I've been beat up.
I've had guns pulled on me.
I've had people say the worst things about me.
And nothing has affected my personal relationships in this industry.
I lost like 90% of my personal relationships when I came out against this global Zionist regime idea, the speaking of the ADL, all this stuff.
They all cut me off.
I had people block my phone number that I haven't talked to in a year and like or text me and be like, it's over.
We'll never, don't ever talk to me again.
And I was like, all I did was say, I just don't want this group in power.
So they have control over like 90% of the people I used to know.
It's really insane, man.
And that's why I'm thinking it's scary to me because it's a group that manipulates American policy to not benefit our country.
And when you talk about it, that's what I'm saying.
They always say, oh, so you hate Jews.
And the answer is no, I don't.
But I hate this group of people that claim to represent them, right?
I hate AI PAC.
I do not like AI PAC.
I do not like the ADL.
I do not like Jonathan Greenblatt.
And I think these people are demonstrably evil and they're working for the devil.
So maybe that's too spicy for you.
I don't know because you're running for president.
So I'm not trying to ruin your life here.
But I just think that it's an intellectually dishonest thing for people to think that, you know, if you're against the ADL and AI PAC, somehow you're against all Jewish people.
It's just stupid.
It's stupid.
And I'm not going to defend myself anymore.
I am against these groups because they're evil.
And maybe you disagree with me.
Maybe you can't say, but I had to say it because even this guy was afraid to say it.
And I'm not afraid.
Okay.
So I'm just not afraid to say it.
You got to be honest.
joshua smith
Not spicy enough, Elijah.
Let me tell you.
You got to go a little, you got to get more spicy, buddy.
No, here's the thing.
elijah schaffer
Let's go.
joshua smith
Look, here's the thing.
Don't you, listen, Elijah, don't you think if they were really worried about foreign influence in America, this would have been called the Stop Israel bill, right?
Like the Stop APAC bill.
Like this nobody, nobody, no entity or organization in the world has more influence in American politics today than AIPAC.
I mean, that's just absolutely 100% the truth.
If you guys don't believe that, go look it up.
I don't care.
I mean, this is known.
Like they, you know, the American Israeli PAC will actually tell you that they have more influence over politics in the United States than any other lobby in the world.
Now, you want to end foreign influence.
I said this on Stew Peters a couple of weeks ago when I was on with Stu.
You know, 100%, they're a terrorist organization.
Okay.
They are using force, fraud, and coercion to influence political action in the United States.
100%.
This isn't a conspiracy, guys.
This is the truth.
This is absolutely true.
And APAC needs to go the way of the dustbin of history.
And, you know, all foreign influence in the United States.
Okay.
When we're talking about like, what's more detrimental?
Okay.
The CCP collecting data so they can sell you junk on the internet for the most part.
Right.
Or like Israel like lobbying the government to continue us in 25 wars around the Middle East and take our tax money to use on their iron dome or whatever it is.
Like, I'll tell you, it's a lot worse, right?
And I do have a problem with like Judaism in general as a Christian.
Any Christian should, right?
Like they don't believe in Jesus was the savior and the Lord and they don't believe in the new covenant and they don't believe in the new testament.
And like, so like if you're a religious Christian and you're like, we have to protect Israel at all costs because they're our biggest ally, like they hate you.
They hate your savior.
Hate your Lord and like you're really just being used as a pawn, a Goy pawn right like Shabbos, Goi right and like, and so um, you know, I think people like this is what I say like you got to get really brave here.
You got to be brave here because we're, we're now getting to the part in in history where just saying that that Jesus is lord is becoming Anti-semitic man, and that's insane to me, absolutely insane.
In America, in a nation that's, 70 of the people in this country will openly say that they're Christian.
They will identify as Christian of some sort.
It's becoming anti-Semitic to see Jesus as Lord or Jesus is king or any of these things that Christians say.
And so like, so like, either you're brave or you let go of your Christian, your Christian beliefs, your principles, you know, your politics, your country, your culture, all of these things that are important to Americans are gone, absolutely gone.
And I, I told Stu, not only are they influencing America, we're under occupation.
A country that sends $60 billion out of the country at the benefit of zero Americans is under foreign occupation.
We're not just under like foreign influence.
We're under foreign occupation because 400 congresspeople are members of APAC or are financed by AIPAC.
And let me tell you, I'm not going to be financed by APAC.
I'm sure of that.
I'm absolutely positive that.
And I'm also going to be the only presidential candidate in the race, should I get the nomination, the only one that won't put on the tiny hat and go kiss the wall, right?
So like, so like, you know, I, I know, I know that like a lot of people are like, they want to like tiptoe around these issues, right?
But like, there's been a real agenda by Israel to weaken America for a long time.
Much bigger agenda than China has.
Much, don't even get me started on Russia.
Russia would probably like America to be stronger.
You know what I mean?
They're tired of us trying to push our effeminate ways on them.
And so like, so like, you know, this is why I keep bringing up this like brave thing.
Like we're either going to be brave about it or we're just going to go home and let them take over.
I mean, that's really what it is.
And, you know, I'm not, I don't get into the Holocaust denialism and some of some of these things these other people do, but there's no doubt that these things are used 100% as a crudgel to stop you from speaking about, you know, Israel's influence in American politics.
God, just talking about God and Jesus in general and bringing up the Talmud or any of these things.
Like it's used as a crudgel to shut you down and call you anti-Semitic and not let you talk about your principles.
And it's going to get worse.
It's going to get so much worse.
But I do, you know, I said this in the beginning of the show.
We're either the part of history of strong men that create good times or our children are going to be.
And I, you know, I'm seeing it in my own kids.
We do have the two adopted kids.
They have to go to public school.
It was part of the part of the adoption agreement.
They have to be in some type of school where they can report any abuse or anything like that.
Right.
And so my son, who's 12, comes home and he goes, hey, there's a, there's a gay, there's a gay club at my school.
He's 12.
He's in middle school.
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Right.
joshua smith
And I'm like, yeah, you know, that sucks.
How do you feel about that?
He's like, well, there's no straight club.
I'm like, yeah, he's like, well, why do they have a club and we can't have a club?
And I'm like, I'm like, why don't you start one?
He's like, you want to get mad at me?
I'm like, no, absolutely not.
What are they going to do?
Tell you're not allowed to start a straight club when they have a gay club on campus.
And so he's like working to start a straight club.
And I'm seeing it in the next generation.
I am.
I really am.
I had this argument on my show with my co-host who thinks that, you know, the generation, two generations under us now are all these like incels that are terminally online.
But I really do believe that, you know, they're kind of coming back to like this traditional way of thought because they're tired of seeing the wackadoodleness that's going on in the United States right now with, you know, going to school and hearing that they have to call this dude that has facial hair a woman.
And they're tired of it.
They are.
I think they're going to be the generation that changes things.
So, but yeah, man, it's it's it's absolutely an agenda.
It's been an agenda for a long time.
It's in their holy scriptures, man.
Like it says, like to use us as slaves.
Literally, it says that.
And so, like, you know, they want our money.
They want us to be tax cattle.
They want that money to go to Israel.
They want us to fight all their proxy wars.
They really would like us to go to war with Iran.
Guaranteed they want us to go to war with Iran because Iran is a big funder of some of these other groups in the Middle East that don't like Israel.
It's exactly what it is.
And it's time to be brave.
It's time for anybody who sees what's going on to speak up and say what they have to say because they're coming for me.
I know they're coming for me.
They're coming for Elijah.
They're coming for anybody who speaks about these things.
They're coming for us.
And they're going to work.
Jonathan Greenblatt's an absolute piece of shit.
And I'll say it proudly to his face right now, but there's no way he's not coming from people like me and people like Clint and Top Lobster and you.
And I mean, they're coming for all of us.
It's going to happen.
So, like, more people need to speak up.
More people need to get awake.
More people need to start talking about these things.
It's really, really important.
elijah schaffer
Well, 100%.
And I want to continue to talk about this.
We're going to finish this conversation over at Rumble for the second half of the show.
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We'll take a two and a half minute break with the break screen so Josh can go pee or whatever he needs to do.
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Don't go anywhere because we're talking about Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL, the people in control.
And we're going to get into the discussion between the FCC commissioner and Tucker Carlson.
By the way, guys, this is a great time to come back to America because, you know, I just really feel like it's never been more accessible to just kind of connect due to the open source nature of the internet right now.
The censorship's never been higher.
This show's never been harder to finance because of just every avenue we create gets shut down or something happens and or we get censored.
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You know, it's not, it's not the funnest thing to talk about, but I know that we got a lot of good discussion points.
And we got to get back.
We got to get back to this.
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I don't quit.
A lot of people quit when the going gets tough or it's hard to produce in Australia.
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You guys are the best freaking group of SOB slightly offensive backers.
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You keep the energy going and we do it because we care.
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All right, we're talking about who's in control and the power and what's happening here with this bill.
Again, I know this stuff is a little boring for some of you guys, but I'm shocked the amount of people that actually did show up for this.
And I'm really, I really am proud of you guys because, like I said, you would be the death of me if every show was just about drama and things happening.
And I like to switch it up.
And it's funny because every time I cover like drama or something that's going on between you know, Steven Crowder and these people get like 5,000 people watching live, and it's irrelevant and it does nothing for anything.
And then we get like maybe like a thousand something when we talk about a bill.
And I get it because it's not fun.
But I'll tell you this.
We are going to be in a very scary future.
And people have always said, well, why didn't I know about this?
Why didn't I wake up?
It wasn't because people weren't telling you the truth.
It was because for some reason, it just wasn't that interesting to you at the time.
So those that are here, congratulations.
I want to talk about this further.
Our guest today is Joshua Smith, if you're just joining.
He's running for the presidential campaign for the Libertarian Party.
And he's a fellow noticer, fellow Christian, and wants to fight for the truth.
Go to my screen here.
Bring us up, Brian, with my screen.
Tucker Carlson was really concerned about this bill.
I'd love to get your take in a second on Tucker and his take here.
But he said in a classified briefing this afternoon, attended by officials from the Biden Justice Department, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez claimed that Elon committed election interference in 2022 by changing the algorithms on X to alter the results of the midterms that year.
Not coincidentally, the anti-TikTok legislation now being debated on the Hill would allow the federal government to force the sell of any social media platform that interferes in elections, just so you know what's coming in 2025.
And Elon Musk said, actually, I made the algorithm open source and neutral to all parties, but of course that is election interference.
Ian Carroll, who we just watched at a video, also commented on this, saying, but as always, ignoring how the Aspen Institute coordinated with social media and news corporations before 2020 to blacklist the Hunter Biden story and the FBI actively worked with social media companies to censor political opinions they didn't like.
All the right people, in my opinion, are saying, hey, look, in this bill, they want to be able to force the sell of social media companies.
So when I mentioned earlier that they're going to come after X, formerly known as Twitter, it was that they're going to try to force Elon to sell it.
And I don't think Elon is a god.
I think he gets a lot wrong.
Like I said, they just demonetized me.
Fuck it.
It is what it is.
But I know that currently the censorship is a lot less than what it was.
And by the way, reminding people, I was verified when it was cool to be verified.
And I'm only saying that because the old algorithms benefited me more than the new ones.
So personally, for me, I did way better on old Twitter because I was one of the select, you know, emperors, the select assholes, as you would call them.
But I'm being serious.
It benefited me, but I agree that the current state of Twitter is better than it was and it benefits more people.
So I want to get Joshua's opinion on this.
When Tucker's bringing this up, is Tucker, number one, a good guy?
And two, is he correct in saying that really this bill is about targeting Twitter?
We'll get to Rumble after, but is this accurate?
joshua smith
So I definitely think that Tucker is mostly good.
And he's fucking amazing on foreign policy, which I love about Tucker.
He's not he one of the reasons why he's not at Fox anymore because he was not afraid to talk about our bullshit foreign policy in the United States.
So I have a lot of respect for Tucker.
I think he's great.
I think he's, you know, when it comes to like alternative media right now, I don't think there's anybody that's doing it bigger than he is too, which is crazy because he's basically just doing it from TikTok or from Twitter, right?
I think that, you know, there was a point in his career with Fox where I'm sure he understood that Joe Rogan was getting like three times the daily viewership that Fox News was getting, like as a, as an entire network, right?
And so like he's doing that now too.
He's, he's, he's kind of on par with the numbers, maybe more, more numbers than Joe Rogan at this point.
So I have a lot of respect for him to be able to say a lot of very truthful things.
He interviews whoever he wants to.
He brings on people that, you know, other platforms definitely aren't going to bring on.
So I appreciate that about him.
Now, the funny thing I think about what he said here and what actually happened, because absolutely AOC is going to claim election interference by Twitter.
There's just, I mean, anybody knows that any of the radical left is going to claim election interference when their guys don't win.
The right also claims it when their guys don't win.
And this is a, this is, you know, everybody tries to act like this just started in 2020.
This has been going on my whole life, right?
Like every election has some kind of interference.
The Bush election was, you know, all of these elections have always had some claims of interference.
And listen, you're just retarded if you think there is an interference in elections.
Of course, there is.
Absolutely 100%.
But AOC got this vote right.
Okay.
I want people to understand that she did better on this vote than almost every conservative in Congress since the 15 that voted no on this.
And that's hard to swallow for me.
As like, you know, I'm, I consider myself very far right.
And it really kind of hurts to see AOC get it right when most of our so-called self-proclaimed conservative congressmen couldn't get it right.
So yeah, I absolutely believe it's going to be used to go after Twitter, especially Twitter, especially.
And not just, you know, Rumble, of course, too.
I don't think they're as concerned as Rumble.
Rumble is still probably 10 years off from being what YouTube is anyways.
But I do think Twitter, Twitter's the largest next to Facebook.
It's the largest social media platform.
And, you know, I think that Elon, I don't think Elon's a god or a king or any of that stuff either.
I do think he gets a lot right.
I think he's way, way, way, way better than any other owner of any other like American, like big American platform, social media.
And, you know, things, things do get wrong.
And I'm hoping that they resolve your situation.
There's absolutely no reason to kick you off, especially about the Justin Moon stuff.
Like everybody was reporting on that.
You know what I mean?
And it was a crazy story that people probably needed to hear and understand that there's people like that in the world.
But I 100% believe that this is going to be exclusively almost used to go after Twitter, especially this year during the election.
This is being passed.
Look, this is, we're six, seven months out from a, from a convention or from a, sorry, I say convention because it's where we get nominated nominated for our party, but from the national election for president.
Do you not see what's going on here?
Are people really that retarded that they don't understand that this is absolutely going to be used to shut down social media and call them election interferers?
Absolutely 100% what's going to happen.
And Tucker's right.
And Tucker knows because Tucker was working at Fox when this was going on before, when they were looking for ways to go after social media companies that were letting people say things they didn't want before.
You know, he's probably reported on it more than five times, right?
And so, yeah, absolutely 100%.
It's going to be used to go after Twitter, Rumble.
They've already taken down Odyssey.
I mean, Odyssey is still operating, but they went after Odyssey hard in the courts there and actually won a huge case against the company that runs Odyssey.
So, but yeah, it's going to happen 100%.
And, you know, they did, right?
elijah schaffer
They hit him with the, because Odyssey was actually paying well too with the crypto.
joshua smith
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
I think I made like, I think one month I made about three grand at Odyssey.
And then all of a sudden I stopped making any money at all.
joshua smith
So Odyssey was such a, it's like a decentralized platform run by library, which is a, which is a crypto token, right?
And like, um, that was also very decentralized.
My good friend Jeremy Kaufman was the founder owner and president or CEO of Library.
And he was the one that went through this whole court case.
And I watched him get go through it.
And I was really hopeful that they'd win, but they ended up saying, basically saying, nope, you got to shut down library and your securities and all this shit and beat them.
And it sucks.
And it's one of the reasons why I'm like a big, I'm a Bitcoin Maxi, right?
Like I only, I will only invest in Bitcoin when it comes to crypto because I think it's the only the only coin that the government's not ever going to be able to really touch.
But I also believe that it's a way to opt out of the federal fiat system.
And that's one of the biggest problems in the world, not just the United States as well.
But yeah, absolutely.
They want to shut down any social media that has any kind of dissent.
If they could be North Korea tomorrow, they'd do it.
There's absolutely no doubt about it.
They would do it.
elijah schaffer
Well, we are, though.
joshua smith
We're not asked bad, but we're getting there.
elijah schaffer
Well, I was going to say, I think, I think I want to make a point that is really hard for Americans to digest.
And I'm not doing this whole like, I'm not, I am American.
So please listen to me, guys, because I am not doing this whole like, you know, hearing a British's opinion of America.
Screw them.
I don't care either.
But as somebody who's pretty well traveled, someone who's lived in multiple countries, who has multiple ethnicities in my family and stuff, I can say this.
Okay.
Other countries are not better than the U.S. at all.
They're not better.
European countries are not better.
Australia is not better.
They're not better.
Walkable cities are cool until you actually need to move your luggage around and you realize there's actually no way to get a car half the places.
Europeans are snooty.
You try to make money in another country.
There's nowhere harder to make it than a country that's not the U.S. is what my joke.
Where is it hard to make money?
Anywhere that's not America.
The United States is literally the best country in the world.
You go anywhere and it's true.
However, I think that the biggest downside to the United States is how free Americans think it is.
And I just want to point that out with you, Joshua.
Because I know you agree that America is a good country.
You want to be the president of it.
You want to see it do better.
But Americans have a real false sense of like, we think in dichotomies.
Like, oh, well, at least we're not North Korea.
And I've seen that with Australia.
Well, at least we're not Australia.
Dude, the United States may be the most effective and totalitarian police state in the history of the world.
If you are the person at the end of it, even with private corporatism, like the man who was just murdered, that was exposing Boeing's corruption and the plane pieces being fit onto the plane that were substandard, how they just killed him and called it a suicide.
And I'm claiming that he was, he didn't kill himself because his lawyers even say he definitely didn't kill himself.
It's absolutely ridiculous.
And they said his finger was locked on the trigger.
There's so many things that could be debunked.
If you come against the corporatism in America, the government will work with agencies to kill you.
If you get in the way of profits of companies that have contracts with the United States government, they'll murder you.
There's very few countries in the world that go to that extent.
People are like, oh, France, they'll prosecute you and put you in jail if you call Macron's wife trans.
In the U.S., if you try to save the lives of people in America, they'll murder you and then call it a suicide.
Like the United States is freaking insane.
And it's really, really in a dangerous perspective.
The only thing that I would say this, Josh, and that's why I want to read this guy's point.
The reason why I'm saying we are North Korea, I just say everything you think bad about Australia, North Korea, we are that.
We are just a little more polished about it and we're better at hiding it is all I'm trying to say.
Because like in North Korea, they'll openly kill you.
You disappear the next day.
But in the U.S., they'll kill you, but it's a suicide.
That's what I'm trying to say.
It's like, you know, in Russia, they'll grab you off the street and put you in prison.
In the U.S., they'll fake a riot at the Capitol and instigate it and then go off three years of raids and make it seem like they justifiably did it.
So everything the U.S. appears justified and for our democracy, but they're just as bad as any country in the world that you think is bad.
They're just as evil.
And might I say even worse, because majority of Americans still think that America is a good nation and the government is good.
The people are good, but our government is sick as shit, man.
I don't know if you agree with that statement, but like, I just think Americans think that like somehow America is better than North Korea or Australia.
And you're like, we just have a different set of laws and protections that require them to be a little sneakier or a little more like this.
They have to ban TikTok.
They can't just censor Rumble.
They have to ban TikTok to get to Rumble.
joshua smith
Well, and just to clarify my point, I think we're on our way to being North Korea.
I will set North Carolina.
Hopefully, hopefully we're on our way to being North Carolina.
They got a good barbecue, you know?
No, but honest to God, like I believe, I don't think we're quite, I know, listen, we have the most effective national security state in the entire world ever of all time, absolutely hands down.
And that's what's created this kind of like secretive police state.
And I, you know, I talk about this.
I take a very vivaque route when I talk about the administrative state and these bureaucracies and these agencies and how they've just grown so massively in size that they have, you know, the FBI has time to go out and infiltrate Catholic groups and infiltrate school board meetings and call soccer moms worried about their child's health, you know, domestic terrorists.
And if we if we cut back 75% of that workforce, a lot of this shit would disappear, guaranteed.
There's no doubt about it.
And the president has the power to do that.
Now, he can't abolish president has no power to go and abolish these agencies.
They were an act of Congress.
It takes an act of Congress to get rid of them.
But so like, so like, I do agree.
I absolutely agree with you.
I believe 100% that, you know, they'll find, you know, at some point, even me, I mean, if I get a big enough platform and am running for president, maybe they find me in some parking lot with, you know, three suicide shots in the back of the head.
I'm sure of that.
I'm absolutely positive of that.
But, you know, I also like I'm in this mindset.
Like Dave Smith is one of my favorite people in the world, right?
Like I love Dave Smith to death.
He's very, very good on just about every issue that's important to me.
And he, you know, he talked, you know, Mike Miles talks a lot about this white pill, black pill thing and a lot of other people bring it up all the time.
And I don't subscribe to it too much, but he said, I don't have time to take the black pill.
I have kids, right?
Like I don't, I can't.
Me taking the black pill is giving up on my children, right?
Like, and I can't, as a father, I can't give up on my kids.
I can't swallow the, I have to, I can only take the white pill.
And so like, I have to believe that there's still some hope there.
And if I was to just admit like we are North Korea, like there's no hope left, right?
And I don't think we're that far.
I think we still do have, you know, somewhat of a free speech in America.
I think we still have some Fourth Amendment protections.
Now, there's going to be certain instances of people who get too big and that happens.
And I understand that, but we do still have the opportunity to go out and try to change the culture because this is what we're in right now.
We're not just in a political war, man.
We're in a fucking culture war, the worst culture war that anybody's ever been a part of since at least the Bolshevik revolution in Soviet Russia, right?
And so like, so like, you know, I have to believe that there's still some hope there.
And I think that like conceding that we are North Korea is not a way to look at, like get people hyped up and have hope that we could still try and fix things.
So, but I do believe we're on our way there, 100%.
And we're not far off either.
I think, you know, and this is just another step.
This bill that we've been talking about on the show is just another step towards that.
When they can control all the flow of information in the United States, we're fucked.
I mean, we're absolutely screwed and make no mistakes.
That's what they want to do.
That's what the government.
And it's not even just the government that wants to do that.
It's these NGOs and SPLC and the ADL and the Israel lobby and the Zionist government.
And it's like all these other influences.
And these people are bought and paid for that are saying they're here to represent the American people in the House of Congress.
No, they're not.
They're representing their interests, their pet projects.
They're military industrial contractors and the Israel lobby and all these social media companies and academia.
They're not representing us anymore.
And so at what point do like the blue collar class, like working class America like me, like I get up and put on work boots every morning, go to work and I'm running for president, right?
Like at what point do we stand up and go like, hey, you know what?
It's time to, we're at the find around, like find out phase of fucking around, right?
Like it's time, it's time for you guys to understand that we're not going to take this shit anymore because it's not sustainable.
You know, this mass immigration, this insane out of control, like runaway train of inflation.
I mean, it's there, they could, if they control all the information, it's over.
Like we're done.
And so I have to believe that there's still some hope there and eat that white pill.
I can't concede that we are North Korea, but we're certainly not far off.
Certainly.
elijah schaffer
Well, now I just want to give a huge shout out to one of the sponsors for our show.
Go to my screen here.
The IDF.
If you can, there's the IDF sponsoring.
joshua smith
Don't look, boys.
Don't look.
unidentified
If you do you like tits?
elijah schaffer
Do you like big booties and women in thongs?
You cannot just bang a Hadi.
You can bang an entire neighborhood in Gaza.
Believe me, you're not just going to get the best head of your life.
You're going to remove the heads of children.
The IDF, a sponsor of Knightly Offensive.
I actually, the chat put this in there.
I only put it up because it's actually funny.
It's, you see, the, I'm, they're so crazy.
This is the uncensored chat on locals, but they're, they're really great.
But I was laughing at this too, uh, that they sent this in because everything is such a psyop.
Uh, it is absolutely so funny.
I've noticed it on TikTok and on these things.
Uh, instead of trying to counteract the narratives against the Israel lobby, against the war in Gaza, they literally focus on putting hot females in underwear that are soldiers.
And I find it ironic that Israel's solution to getting people on their side is like using pornography.
It is ironic.
joshua smith
It is pretty ironic that that's sort of what the vast majority of these guys are degenerates.
I mean, really, they truly are.
You know what I mean?
That taber is nice, though.
That gun.
I'll take the gun.
I don't want to.
I got a beautiful Italian wife who's like five foot and would stab me if she even knew I'm looking at this right now, but I'll take the gun.
unidentified
Yeah, no way.
elijah schaffer
We didn't look at it.
It wasn't there.
Everyone who's watching this, tell your wife it was never on the screen.
We never saw it.
No, but I, but I, I was just laughing because they were like explaining how, yeah, it is a psyop.
They're like, hey, but, but, but Jewish women are hot.
And I don't think anyone's ever said that that Israeli girls are ugly.
That was never the argument.
And that's the psyop, though, is switching the conversation, right?
It's like, hey, yeah.
So you guys are saying we're just killing kids and we're bombing them with American dollars.
But do you like tits?
And it's like, okay, well.
Yeah, I do.
We all do.
Our argument against porn is not that women don't look hot naked.
Like, that's not the argument.
Nobody's.
joshua smith
I'm actually, I'm actually an ass man.
That's why I married an Italian.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joshua smith
So sorry.
Sorry, Israel.
You lose again.
elijah schaffer
You lost.
But I wanted to bring this up, this conversation, because this is what they're trying to do to us today: PSYOP us.
Brennan Carr, he was the, I wouldn't want to butcher this.
Okay, he's the commissioner of the FCC, which is the Federal Communications Commission.
Here's what he had to say to Tucker.
He said, it would be concerning to many if the bill allowed this.
It does not.
The text is definitive on this point.
The bill does not apply to just any social media platform.
Far from it.
There's only here's the only target application.
If you're an individual user, the bill confers zero authority to the government over you.
Two, the bill only applies to applications controlled by one or four foreign adversary governments previously codified in law by Congress, China, Iran, North Korea, or Russia.
The bill is clear that it is not enough to merely have operations there or do business there.
It must be controlled by one of those four governments.
And by the way, I just want to add a caveat to this.
Whenever you see them say that it only applies to foreign adversaries, it's reminding you that they will consider right-wing people to be in support of the Russian government.
There's a lot of like loopholes in this stuff.
And so because right-wingers are against the war in Ukraine, therefore we're pro-Russia.
And the way that they're going to name this, I also want to get your take on that.
I don't buy that, because I think that their goal is to like, if you're against Israel, then you're Pro-Iran.
You know what i'm saying.
Maybe i'm going a little too far with this, but i've watched them do this with january 6th.
I've watched them call everyone Putin puppets, even on on the Republican side.
This is why i'm not a Republican or a Democrat.
Really, i'm a registered Republican um, but I I, I just, it's just hard because they're both owned and controlled by foreign governments.
joshua smith
What about the foreign government of Israel Trump?
They impeach Trump for Russia collusion.
Okay, that didn't happen.
That didn't happen.
Okay, they're going to listen, absolutely 100.
They're going to use this against anybody they consider to be colluding with any of these places.
I guarantee 100% they're going to try to find a caveat that this is these people are colluding with this government.
So we have to shut them down.
It's going to happen.
And they're going to have the precedent for it.
That's the thing too.
And that's this guy's obviously either cherry-picked this bill or hasn't read the whole bill.
It goes a lot further than this.
So I just, I can't believe that.
I mean, I can.
I can believe because people are going to go read that.
Look, you said earlier, people get their news from TikTok.
If you get your news from TikTok or Twitter, you're probably retarded.
Like you should do a little more research than that.
And don't and don't just listen to the guy that puts 30 sentences from a 13-page bill up onto Twitter.
Go read the bill.
It's only 13 pages.
I mean, in retrospect, the other bills are hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of pages, thousands of pages sometimes.
Some of these, these Unibus bills, especially.
So just go read the bill and you tell me what you think.
Like I want to hear what people have to say about this bill because this is a bill that's actually readable.
13 pages is not some crazy like 18 day read.
I mean, you can get through this bill.
So go read it and tell me if that's what you think, because I guarantee you there's language in there that's, that's going to make it, you know, vaguely possible for them to go after any single uh person running any social media whatsoever of any type.
Uh, it's going to happen, that's what they're going to do and and I promise you, and it's going to be used to say that Russia is colluding again or China's colluding in our inter, in our elections, with twitter because, you know, you're allowed to post Russian propaganda or Chinese propaganda on twitter without being, you know, censored.
And it's going to happen.
100, it's going to happen.
There's no doubt about it.
I'm just hoping that the Senate, you know, pisses on this.
But they won't, they won't, they'll pass it.
elijah schaffer
No no, they won't shout out to America the FREE, by the way, becoming a monthly supporter on Rumble.
Uh, I wanted to say here, with with the bill, that the craziest thing that I the reason why I said I, I agree with you on that that they're going to change the wording is number three on here, where he says, even then, the bill only applies if the application presents a demonstrated and significant threat to national security control by one or four, four uh, foreign governments alone isn't enough under the bill.
So really, if it poses a threat to national security and I want to remind people that you are the enemy okay, like I know, the government is opening up an investigation into uh, mr Baker the the, the journalist, uh over at the Blaze who was arrested and I talked to him, Steve Baker, pretty regularly.
Um, he's been on the show and he'll he'll be back on.
He's a journalist.
He's being prosecuted for four misdemeanors.
Um, It's very openly a targeting of someone because of their political affiliation.
It's disgusting.
I think the government is so stupid that they might have thought he was me.
I'm not even joking because I really think they were like, oh, we got to go after the Blaze journalist.
And a lot of people don't know that that's not me.
So I think a lot of people that were supporting this think that he's me.
And I feel really bad about that.
I'm not joking to you guys.
This is how retarded these people are.
They're like, hey, we're going to go after the Blaze journalist.
And then they know that I'm the Blaze journalist because what?
It's barely been a few months since MSNBC has made another op-ed about me about how I'm still free man and you know this whole thing.
These people are crazy.
They want blood.
Why?
Because we're more awake than ever.
We're more awake than ever and we know what's going on.
So they want to put us, it's what they do.
It's why they write smear articles.
You know, I make a good point and then they just smear me with some unrelated article and they're like, see, he's a bad person.
And you're like, okay, well, even if it's true, which it's not, doesn't make what I'm saying less realistic or less of a reality in general.
But when I see that they say, oh, it's a national security threat, I'm a national security threat.
You're a national security threat.
We are, we're literally on lists.
Like, it's not a boomer take.
I'm on a list somewhere.
I'm literally on lists.
Okay.
I've been unable to fly at points in my life because they're under investigations.
It's all bullshit.
It's stupid.
But I'm just saying, like, where have we gotten to the home of the free, the land of the brave, the idea of America the great, to where we're like, we have vague definitions of national security.
What nation are we even trying to secure, man?
Like, that's what I'm trying to ask people.
Like, what is it that we're trying to secure?
Secure against what?
Families?
Against heterosexuality?
Secure our nation against straightness?
Secure our nation against patriotism?
That's literally what it is today now.
We're trying to make everyone sit gay and retarded.
And you're the biggest enemy, Joshua.
You have a giant family.
You're straight.
You're tall.
You have money and you live a good life.
And you have an influential voice.
You are the enemy number one, right?
Not to mention the color of your skin, not to mention all those other things.
But it's like, dude, this bill is.
I mean, my conclusive statement is: this is 100% going to be used to target people.
And most importantly, just know it's going to be used to prevent any new websites that are going to try to come out and launch and target the ones that already exist.
Rumble's already under attack.
BitChute has been under attack.
Odyssey's under attack.
X is under attack every day.
And X is cramping down.
You see their censorship increasing as they get pressure.
I kind of want to get your conclusive statements, Joshua.
What's your final thoughts on this?
Where are you?
joshua smith
Man, they made Elon put on the tiny hat and go kiss the wall, man.
Like, you know what I mean?
They're going to punish us.
They're going to punish us.
You're either going to submit or die.
I mean, that's really where we're at.
And, you know, this, I think we need to dig deep, really deep, man.
Like, this is, it's been 200 and less than 300 years since the founders of this country decided to tell, you know, one of the greatest monarchies in history to kiss their ass and fought them.
They literally shed blood to ensure that we never had a government that did these types of things.
And we're under attack again today, right now.
And we're going to need to dig deep and remember that, you know, the speeches, the compacts that Thomas Paine put out and, you know, the speech, give me liberty or give me death, because we're not going to, it's not going to get better.
It's not going to get better.
You know, I think that there's so many people sitting around going, oh, well, you know, I'm going to die eventually.
And then my kids will do something.
It's like, it's not.
It's going to get worse.
Your kids are going to have it worse.
Their kids are going to have it worse.
I got grandkids, man.
Like, I have to ensure before I die that society is more free for them than it is today.
And, you know, as much as I want to dunk on my enemies, and I do dunk on my enemies, and I am going to continue to dunk on my enemies.
And I will, I will fight my enemies.
You know, I'm one of those people.
I'll put on the whole, the whole armor of God and trade my cloak in for a sword and fight.
I will.
I'm okay with that.
But we also need to remember that everything that we impose on our enemies through legislation can always come back to be used against us.
And it's always going to.
And this is no different.
This is going to be 100% used against us.
And, you know, the conservatives up at the hill, they don't care.
They don't give a shit.
The people sitting in Congress, they don't care that it's going to be used again because it's going to be used.
The harm is mostly going to come to us, to the little people, to Americans that own businesses.
I mean, this always comes back to bite us.
You know, the COVID regime is clear, clear evidence of this, right?
Like 30% of the businesses that were shuttered never came back to the market.
I mean, small mom and pop shops that Fed families are gone forever.
They'll never ever come back, right?
This was to save us.
This was to protect us.
They destroyed the economy and locked us in our homes and masked our children and forced us to take experimental medical treatments and gene therapies to get our lives back, right?
Like I didn't go along with it, but a lot of people did.
And it was all in the name of safety.
And it's like, you know, the great speech, you know, those who would give up their freedom for safety deserve neither freedom nor safety.
We need to remember these like central tenets of the United States and what it was built on.
And if we don't do that soon, it's, I'm afraid we will be North Korea.
We will be, you know, the CCP and we'll be run by Israel entirely and we'll just be whored out to whatever nation's paying the most.
And I'm not going to stand for it.
And I hope other people won't stand for it either, man.
I really do.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, go pee on the wall, right?
That's what I think.
And you know, as we close out today's show, I would like to do an after-show, but Pat Dixon needs to live stream on Censored and the way it works.
Only one show could be surviving at the same time.
I just have to tell you guys that things are going to get really complicated.
And I'm warning you to not get too comfortable in the next six months because the other side is a little bit lazy.
They're a little bit fat.
They're guys in office.
The deep state's in full control of the country.
But Trump's rising in polls, possibly at percentage points that may outdo the current rigging that they have planned.
So I'm not trying to just like give you these like, you know, oh, we're all going to die.
I don't, we don't make titles about World War III here all the time.
Like my producer and stuff will like make a title for World War III.
I'm like, take that out.
We don't need to be talking about World War III, civil wars all the time.
We have before, but we don't do it all the time.
There are some shows, every other title is about World War III almost here, Civil War, because it's fear sells.
And I don't want to sell you fear.
I'm not, I don't even, I don't even need you to watch this.
We don't even, it doesn't matter.
What I am trying to tell you is that Trump is climbing to where people like Chris Cuomo and people are saying if there's a fair election, he'll win and he could win even in a rigged election.
That's what happened in 2016.
They didn't prepare for the rigging.
He didn't win in 2020.
This next election is rigged.
And because they've been lazy, they're going to start to panic.
And our enemies are powerful, but they're not very bright.
I'm not joking.
And they're not as well coordinated as you think.
Like in your own life, when you're drinking too much, when you're doing, when you're, when you're living a fat and sassy life, pursuing your vices, when you're not pursuing God's will, are you on top of your work?
No.
Are you an effective communicator?
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
Are you doing the best in your marriage?
Are you able to focus on your job?
unidentified
No.
elijah schaffer
So these people are godless and they're out of control in their own personal lives.
So that's what kind of makes their communication sort of stunted.
They're not really effectively cooperating with each other like they did ahead of the 2020 election.
I promise you this.
And they're being exposed.
So they're panicking right now.
And everything's on the table.
All cards are on the table, buddy, including World War III.
It is actually on the table.
I don't think we're going to get World War III for this election, but I'm telling you, there is some retard out there that would launch a nuke.
There is somebody out there.
He may be stopped, but I just need you to not get comfortable and get lazy because very, very scary things are going to be happening like this bill, and nobody seems to really care about it.
And this is Patriot Act Internet 2.0.
And I'm not exaggerating it.
This is going to remove our rights on the internet and threaten our ability to notice, to share information, and may shut down a show like this, which cannot exist on YouTube and these other websites.
And so it is threatening our ability to access information.
So I'm leaving it at that and just please telling you, the best thing that you can do right now is get your life right with God.
Okay.
That's very simple.
You've got to get your life right with God.
Me too.
I can tell you my goals.
One of them is I'm trying to swear less just so I can be a better example for my children.
I do swear a bit on the show, but I need to swear less.
I'm trying to get control of my words.
I'm not really on Twitter much the last week or so.
I'm trying to spend less time on social media so I can be more present mentally.
And I'm now trying to pray more and figure out the direction morally I want to go, how I want to align my life with God.
I'm looking at areas that are not aligned with God and I'm comparing them and saying, okay, I need to go in this direction, that direction, and I need to like get serious.
I'm not fully there.
I'm not somehow this mature, you know, Christian example that you should follow.
I'm just saying I'm taking my spiritual life seriously and going in a new direction.
I have been for months, but I'm ramping it up.
This last week, I decided to ramp it up.
And I'm going to be going in the next few months in a more serious direction because you're going to need God on your side and you're going to need to be able to hear his voice.
You're going to need to be able to be sensitive to the Holy Spirit.
And that's all I want to leave you with.
And if you don't believe in God, and this means nothing to you, it's okay, but things are going to get scary.
And even if you're a man, you can act tough, but it gets scary in there, man, in your head.
You know it.
You don't show it, but it's freaking scary to be a dude sometimes.
You're going to need a God to not just lean on, but you're going to need a God that you know, that you know is going to be there for you.
I know he did his final thoughts on the story, but my guest today, Joshua Smith, running for the 2024 Libertarian presidential candidacy.
Any closing thoughts you have overall?
Any advice?
Anything?
How can people find you?
How can they support you?
You got the last few minutes here.
joshua smith
Sure.
Well, first of all, I just want to say absolutely pray, man.
I think that that's, you know, a lot of us have just stopped praying and it's really time to find your, you know, your voice in God again.
I mean, that's, you know, I think that, you know, 70% of the population in the United States will admit to identifying as a Christian of some sort.
But what percentage of that is using their power of prayer and the power of God to fight back on this stuff?
Probably a lot smaller than that.
So find God again, man.
It's important.
Also, I want to talk about, you know, you brought up the World War II, but our World War III, but I want to bring up something that's even more important.
We, you know, we're constantly tossed these allegations of you want a civil war and you can't fight a civil war because it's just a bunch of, you know, white dudes out there with AK-47s fighting government jets.
And I want to make it clear that that's not what a civil war in 2024 is.
We're in a civil war right now.
It's not just a culture war.
It's a civil war.
And we're winning.
That's the white pill that I have to give myself.
We're winning because we are able to print our firearms in our basement.
We're able to invest in Bitcoin, which circumvents the federal government and opts out of the federal fiat system.
We're able to grow our own food right now.
We have this growing movement for holistic alternative health care.
I mean, these are the ways that we win.
These are the ways that we beat this fiat federal system.
And I think we're doing it now.
And, you know, they're going to continue to come at us hard in all aspects, whether it's the internet, whether it's through our food, whether it's through our jobs, our livelihoods, our healthcare.
They're going to continue to come.
And the more we opt out of these systems, the better off we are.
And every day people are opting out of one of these systems or all of these systems.
And the more we do that, the more they're going to fight and kick and scream.
It's the death nail of a dying empire.
And we have to continue to push them in that direction.
So definitely pick up on those things.
Do all those things that you can.
Teach your kids.
You know, have a strong family, have strong moral fiber, have strong faiths.
Those are the things the government hates.
And that's how we win.
So go follow me on Twitter, especially.
That's at Joshua at Large.
You guys can check me out over there.
That's where I'm at war with everybody.
And then, of course, I do the show on the nights that Elijah doesn't do the show.
So we have a show every Tuesday and Thursday night at 7:30 p.m. Central Time live on Rumble, TikTok, not TikTok, Rumble, Twitch, Twitter, YouTube.
I don't know, Facebook.
We're on all these platforms for now.
I don't know how many that will keep us up there, but you can find us on YouTube at backslash fight the despots.
You can find us on Rumble at backslash breakthecycle.js.
Go follow the shows over there.
Check us out on Tuesday and Thursday nights.
Elijah, man, I appreciate you so much.
I think your voice is absolutely very important in this movement, and you got to keep doing what you're doing.
And I'm more than happy to come on and hang out with you if you ever want to come on my show.
unidentified
Let me know, man.
elijah schaffer
I would.
And I'd love to have you back on.
I think, like I mentioned, I think it's kind of funny because it has been one of the hardest things running American social media from not just like another country like Mexico, but like the opposite time zone and opposite hemisphere.
And literally, we're in different seasons.
Like I'll be dressed for summer and it's like snowing in the U.S. states and I'm like sweating and everyone's like, why is he sweating?
I'm like, it's 200 degrees and the air conditioning broke, you know?
But, but what I did notice is like, there's a lot of things I want to do with this channel and I want to have people in person.
So it'd be nice to have you in person when I get back.
I'm going to set up a nice studio out there and, you know, fly guests in and stuff.
And we're going to be completely independent.
joshua smith
What part of what part?
What part of the United States?
elijah schaffer
I can't say.
I can't say.
I can't say because, yeah, because the fair.
joshua smith
That's fair.
I'm like public, unfortunately.
Everybody knows where I live.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
See, that's where are you at?
joshua smith
I'm in Iowa.
I'm in the Midwest.
elijah schaffer
Oh, well, that's safer.
joshua smith
That's a good thing.
Last bastion of hope in the United States, man.
I'm telling you right now, it's the place to be.
It's cold as shit in the winter, though.
unidentified
Is it?
elijah schaffer
Is it?
Why is Iowa the place to be?
Sell me Iowa before we.
joshua smith
So our the our first of all, we didn't send a single Democrat to Washington, D.C. this last midterm.
Um, the we have a super majority of Republicans in the, in the uh house here in Iowa, um, and the vast majority of them are like libertarians.
We have like like Mises Austrian libertarians that ran as Republicans that are in the state house today, like uh, Jeff Shipley, who's absolutely amazing.
Um, they just passed full, full constitution, constitutional carry.
Uh, they're currently working on a bill to nullify all federal gun laws entirely.
Uh, they banned the mass mandates, they banned the vax mandates, they banned the shut the business shutterings.
They told Facebook and Google or Facebook and uh Microsoft, who both have data centers here, that if they wanted to operate in the state of Iowa, they could not force their employees to do these things.
Um, so like, so like we, we actually have a really good, like, you know, people talk about DeSantis and Gnome and these people during COVID.
Uh, Riddles was amazing, like amazing, like, in my opinion, the best governor when it comes to the COVID regime, hands down.
She was like not having any of it.
Um, and so, like, so like, you know, Iowa's a flyover state that a lot of people don't think about.
It's cold as shit here.
Like in the winter, we just had a negative 40 day this last winter.
And so, like, so like we don't have this mass influx of like people coming from California and other states that are warm on the west coast.
And like, it's even too cold for like New Yorkers.
So, like, you know, the entire population is 1.7 million people in the entire state.
There's still tons of rural space.
You could still buy farms here.
We're looking at, that's our goal is to buy a farm here, family farm, leave the family farm to the kids.
But we've just found a farm, you know, a hobby farm, like eight acres with a seven-bedroom house and three barn structures on it for like under $700,000.
So you like the dream of America's heartland still lives in Iowa.
And so I'm a big fan of Iowa.
I think it's one of the last bastions of freedom when it comes to state governments.
And I won't leave here until I'm old enough to move to Florida and not care about the government anymore.
elijah schaffer
You know, you're selling me on it.
I'm looking right here and there's like, I can, you know, you could buy money I have or whatever, but I mean, you don't need to get a mortgage on some of these homes.
You can just get them.
joshua smith
You can buy them.
elijah schaffer
A lot of people that have Bitcoin can buy these homes very easily with a half of the Bitcoin they own right now converting it.
So yeah, you know, I don't know, man.
I got it.
So I got to talk to the wife.
I got to figure it out.
But I never even looked at Iowa because I, you know, I'm from Los Angeles.
So like I said, Los Angeles.
Where are you from?
joshua smith
I'm from Oakland.
elijah schaffer
Oh, God.
That's one of the worst cities in the whole.
That's one of my least favorite cities that exists actually in the world.
So Oakland's up there with, as they say, don't turn your back on the blacks because you won't have one.
Anyway, that's my last advice.
Dude, thank you for coming on, man.
I know this is a bit of an informal show.
And in general, not everyone enjoys coming on the show, but we tend to get a lot of good guests.
You know, it's funny is my producer who's new was telling me that he was like, this is the weirdest show to book for.
He was, I was like, why?
And he was like, because you'll get these like random like extremist, no-name people that will come on and you like get them and everyone's like, what the hell are you doing?
And then like, you get like some of the biggest politicians and people who will email you and want to come on and you're just like, yeah, no, like, I don't really want to.
That sounds boring as hell.
And even somebody I'm going to say right now that wants to come on the show, it's shocking.
Someone's like, why would they?
So you'll get like, you know, Joel Davis on or Nick Fuentes and then like from the Trump family wanting to come on next.
And I think, I think it's because we don't take the show too seriously.
We don't take ourselves too seriously.
We keep it really low-key, the production really, really average.
We keep everything very normal and we keep it going, keep it real.
And thanks to guests like you, who are people that are more well-known and are well-versed, we'd love to have you back on again.
So anyway, Joshua Smith, thanks for coming on, man.
Best wishes to you on your campaign for being a real, a real guy, a real G, and a real dad to those kids.
Keep loving your wife.
Keep loving God.
And hopefully we'll see you again soon, man.
joshua smith
Thanks, man.
I appreciate you.
Thanks for having me on.
I'll see you in the Twitter Wars, buddy.
elijah schaffer
See you there.
Anyway, my name is Elijah Schaefer.
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