March 15, 2024 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Lucas Gage Returns to X on a MISSION | Guest: Lucas Gage
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Lucas Gage has been one of the most vocal and effective critics of Zionism, Israel, and the ongoing war in Gaza. Recently, he was banned from X for a fiery monologue he gave about going toe to toe with the Zionist regime. X interpreted his words less than favorably - but he’s set to return in a week. What has he learned in his time off the platform, who is he, and what are his plans for the future?
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Well, of course, you can be targeted at any point at any time of the day for saying the wrong thing.
And it's not just individuals that we're concerned about.
It's also entire companies like TikTok that can be smeared as pushing Chinese propaganda when in reality, it's a different kind of truth that they're allowing to be told that some people, certain people in high places, don't want getting out.
Of course, to talk about this, you know who we're talking about and you might know who we're talking to.
Author activists, and of course, recently banned in a very high-profile case of political targeting, Lucas Gage, who's a veteran.
Well, after I got banned, a lot of them texted me and my wife celebrating that we got you.
Ha ha ha ha.
A lot of some death threats kept coming, some harassment.
These people are very ruthless.
Of course, you see what they're doing to children there.
It doesn't bother them to send these kind of threats to me and my wife.
But they were happy that I was suspended.
And so a lot of my friends said, you know, why don't you build up your Gab account, start a Telegram.
And I started a Telegram account, got to 7,000 very quickly.
And then that got app store banned so that people couldn't, it couldn't grow any further.
I started doing Rumble.
My Rumble's doing well.
I think Rumble is actually one of the safest places now, even more safer than Twitter.
And I'm not calling it X anymore because it's no longer X.
It's not what I left.
In fact, since I've been suspended, Elijah, I've been told a lot of things have changed dramatically with this so-called free speech platform.
I mean, even the term the noticing is being, you know, people are getting cut off for that.
So yeah, I've been doing okay.
Again, building my Rumble, my Gab, other platforms.
My Instagram went from 400 to 12,000.
Somehow, meta is not as bad as Twitter.
So I don't know what's happening.
But yeah, I've been building these alternative platforms or the ones I haven't been using much just to keep in touch with people.
People are looking for me, asking me when I'm coming back.
I actually have a countdown on a calendar program.
I have six days left until I'm supposed to come back, which is March 20th, if they keep their promise to me, because it was a three-month suspension, Elijah.
It was the first three-month suspension I've ever, I think I'm the first human being on earth to get a three-month suspension.
I've never heard of it before.
And I'm actually surprised it wasn't permanent.
I was actually like, wow, he didn't get rid of me forever.
So he says.
So we'll see when the time comes.
There was another account who got a one-month suspension who goes by Defund Israel Now, and he got it back.
So I figured, okay, well, if he gets it back, then I should be okay.
Well, yeah, we will see because, you know, if people want to know, Elon Musk actually commented on why you were suspended.
If you could pull up my screen, Brian.
Elon Musk said, obviously, suspending someone for using an emoji would be idiotic.
Gage called for the slaying of demons in brackets, Jewish people.
Incitement to murder of anyone is illegal.
We do have a UN exception where leaders of governments recognized by the UN are allowed to say whatever they can say at the UN.
Okay, so I'm just a little bit confused why you were banned because, and I really don't want a biased answer.
I'm not claiming you're going to do this, but like there's a lot of retards on the internet who will literally call for murder and it's not a joke or something.
And they'd be like, I'm going to slit your throat and rip your head off, you know, Jew rat or whatever.
And it's like, okay, yeah, you can't actually use that phrase and can't do that.
What did you actually say?
What did you actually mean?
And are the allegations true that you called for the murder or systematic annihilation of Jewish people?
Because that's what was reported.
And that's what is currently the narrative going around Twitter.
The whole argument, well, I go on these rants people love.
So I was in my car ranting about a specific situation about being in Twitter spaces.
So this one guy who was an Israeli came in and he had this attitude like, oh, it's all settled now, dude.
The Jewish people, blah, blah, blah, Israel.
That's it.
And I said, people like that, you don't treat them with respect.
You treat them like you should make Zionists feel uncomfortable.
You should treat them like pedophiles.
And I said, these people are bombing children.
They're satanic.
They're demons.
And I say, you don't sit there and talk to demons.
You slay them.
And I mean that in the context of a conversation.
And then I said, the next sentence, literally, I say, all you need to do is call them out, shame them, call them out and show people what they are.
This one's calling for genocide.
This one's laughing at babies.
This one.
So that's the full video.
It's 15 minutes long.
Canary Mission and all these other so-called stop anti-Semite groups took a 50-minute rant, chopped it down to like a minute 30 and played this section where I only say you slay them.
And they don't say the next sentence, which literally tells you what I meant by that.
There was, it's a metaphor, but I explain.
I leave it to no one's imagination.
So Elon saw that.
That's all he saw.
And everyone else, Sam Parker, Soliman, all my friends were like, Elon, look at this part.
He never, he never responded to it.
So they literally cut a 15-minute rant, cut out the part where the literally next sentence, I say, all you need to do, I didn't say slay demons.
Go home, get your AK-47 and your grenades and shoot people.
No, I said, all you need to do is shame them, call them out, and show people what they are.
They're literally monsters laughing at children.
It's all out there.
It's still out there on the internet.
So they took me out of context purposely.
And I said, I even, when people challenged Canary Mission, they said, oh, we put the full version out too, but nobody watched the full version.
The chopped up version had like tens of hundreds, actually thousands, hundreds of thousands of views, like over half a million or something.
And then the other version underneath, the full version had like 50,000.
And the people who saw it said, wait a minute, Mr. Gage never said anything.
In fact, Elijah, someone put a community note that Gage was suspended for calling to murder people.
And that community note was removed because it was false.
So I got no police phone call.
No FBI showed up my house.
And there was no investigation, nothing, because I didn't incite for violence because it is illegal, but I didn't.
It was a metaphor about fighting someone in a context of arguing.
If I say, Elijah, tomorrow at the basketball game, I'm going to fucking kill you.
Does that mean I'm going to kill you literally or I'm going to kill you at the basketball game?
If I say, yo, let's go outside to the club and slay some chicks.
Does that mean we're going to murder chickens or get laid?
This is the metaphor of slaying demons, right?
It's almost a religious concept of fighting someone in a spiritual battle.
Okay.
So they took it out of context.
And that was one of the reasons why I got suspended.
Elon was referring to an emoji, right?
There was three things that I got hit for on my final suspension notice.
It was the emoji.
I put three emojis.
I quoted someone, a Jewish guy with a gun saying, blah, blah, blah, you can't stop me.
I put three fire extinguishers above him.
That was one strike.
The rant was another one.
And then a Michael Myers meme that I made up, a video of him stomping on a Israeli head flag that was made.
It was a joke.
That was all these three got me suspended for three months.
I don't know if each one cost a month or all three of them just equal three months.
I don't know exactly what the rules are because nobody knows how this works.
But it was that that got me suspended as well.
So Elon doesn't even know that the emoji was actually one of the tweets that got me suspended.
He doesn't even know that.
So his own company doesn't know that in the email it said emoji, Michael Myers, and then the rant.
Let me see this here real quickly because I think I have the original video.
I want to just play it for you guys and reminding you, this is what he was suspended for because this is why he was targeted.
It was originally posted here by Suleiman Ahmed, who said that Lucas Gage clearly explains when he talks about slaying demons, he means verbally.
So let's watch what this is that got you suspended and see what the audience thinks because it's better to get it straight from the source rather than explaining it.
So what I see there, man, is pretty much simply put.
I see that you were using hyperbolic language that was simply just like, oh, you slay the demons.
I mean, when you slay a dance, you know, you're not killing somebody like you said.
And hyperbolic language is obviously taken out of context because I recently did a clip that went out from the show where I said like, why I'm done with like Protestantism.
And people were messaging me like, oh, you've given up on the Protestant church.
And I go, no, The clip, the segment wasn't that I've given up on all Protestants or on Christianity.
It was, that was just a hyperbolic language because I was talking about just how far they've drifted in so many of their own sects and what's going off away from the Orthodox and Catholic church and how they need help.
But I wasn't saying I was done with Christianity or Protestant Christians in general, just explaining myself using language.
But people take this out.
And if you took what you said out of context without the second part where you're literally saying, here's actually what you do.
And again, anyone could disagree with you.
Somebody could think you're a lunatic or a moron, and that's fine.
That's all fair game.
But you just said to treat people with contempt or anger or bitterness, which is no different.
That's actually less vitriolic than anything Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters have said on network television.
So, like, I don't understand.
So, so what was it that you got suspended permanently because of the original claim and then context came and then now you got a three month suspension?
Why would you get a three months suspension even for that?
Because you said nothing illegal.
Again, you might think it's disgusting if you're watching this.
You might even agree with him more than he agrees with himself.
It doesn't matter to me, but I didn't hear anything that you said that was against terms of service.
Again, once you see the rest of the video and you saw that clip, I literally say this is all you have to do.
Again, I didn't say get guns, get pitchforks, get anything.
I literally say this is a in the context of the concept.
You got to start even from the beginning of the video.
When I say when you get into these spaces, when you talk to these people, you treat them with contempt.
So yes, nothing was illegal.
Again, I don't know if we'll get into the show, but I've had people come to my house over tweets.
I've had the police show up because of tweets that I posted, okay?
Sent by these people, the state police and the BRIC PD.
So nothing happened after.
If I truly broke the law and did something illegal, there would have been an investigation.
Mr. Gage, are you going to hurt Jews?
Are you going to kill people?
Anyone who saw the entire video saw, yeah, he's screaming.
He's doing now.
Kids are being blown to pieces.
I'm pissed off.
I make passionate rants.
That's what people know me about.
But nowhere did I call for harming anyone.
And I say Jewish supremacists and Zionists.
I didn't say every single Jew in the world.
And I specified which ones were being demonic or satanic.
So again, they're taking so many things out of context.
They chopped it up.
Now, Elon's a billionaire.
He doesn't have time to watch my videos.
He saw the clip and Canary Mission, stop anti-Semites, Sharon.org, all these organizations that are supposed to fight anti-Semitism used this deceptively edited clip.
It spread it all over the internet out of context, on purpose, knowing what they were going to do and what was going to happen.
And they got away with it because Elon got a lot of pressure.
So why did I get three months?
I don't know.
I'm not complaining.
I mean, it sucks that I got anything, but it's better than permanent suspend.
And perhaps because he knew there was nothing illegal there.
Maybe he's just all right, give him three months and then they'll make everyone happy.
He'll go away for a while and then he'll come back or whatever.
Or maybe we'll give him three months, people will forget about him, then we permanently suspended it.
And that's what many people feared.
So that's why people like my friend Sam Parker and others have been keeping free Lucas Gage going in the beginning and keeps they keep putting videos about me just to keep my presence there.
Because if, for example, Defund Israel got suspended for a month, if no one said anything, why would Twitter honor their word?
They wouldn't.
So a lot of accounts are being suspended permanently, Elijah.
I've had people tell me I had 100 grand, they're gone.
Just completely, no email, nothing.
Nobody knows who they are.
And they're getting rid of these people.
But if you keep pressure on Elon or Twitter, perhaps they'll keep us, you know, keep him accounted and we'll come back.
But again, we'll see.
I mean, like I said, I'm not super excited yet, but we'll get there soon enough.
I want to talk to you about that about being targeted because I want to remind people that he got targeted for speaking out against Zionism.
Now, what I think is important and why we're talking about this, number one, because Lucas Gage's voice matters.
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Yesterday, we talked heavily for two hours with Joshua Smith, Libertarian presidential candidate, about the dangers of this TikTok bill.
Today, we're going to talk a little more about it with Lucas and who's really behind it.
But people like Lucas get silenced, taken off the internet, and people just get used to it.
Oh, there's another one.
It's like watching a homeless person on the streets of LA.
Like, you just figure they deserve to be there, and there's nothing you can do to help them, and they probably can't be helped.
But this is an American.
This is a veteran.
This is somebody who cares about his country, who isn't even speaking out against Americans.
He's speaking out against people that are foreign adversaries, people that are undermining our political spectrum, people that are going out using our money, your money that you earn, that you pay in taxes to kill children.
And then when you speak out against it, when you speak out against the death of children, you're called hateful.
And it's a dishonest framing.
But unironically, well, I've lost a lot of support from colleagues over being openly against people who kill children with my tax dollars.
The only people that can kill children with my tax dollars is the U.S. government, because that's what they like to do.
And so we'll keep doing that.
I always say that I can't sleep at night unless we bomb some brown people at a wedding in the Middle East.
Let's do it.
So fun.
It's the American tradition.
But this is serious.
So I want to talk to him about this because we're going to talk about how this depersoning happens, the dehumanization of individuals.
This is censored, and this is what happens and how censoring occurs.
Go to my screen here, Brian.
You can bring us both up here.
PaleoCon Publishing had released this.
Zionists contacted Attorney General for Police to visit Israel's toughest critic, Lucas Gage.
I'll read a little bit of this.
This was on November 5th of 2023.
You just mentioned the police had showed up at your house.
I'd love to hear your side of this.
But it does say briefly to give credit to the publication.
The conflict in Israel continues to push Americans to their limits as the divide between America First and Zionism pits citizens against citizens.
And of course, you're a Chad, you're a veteran, you're in shape, they hate that.
Friday afternoon, influencer, commentator, and author Lucas Gage was unexpectedly met by a half dozen local and state troopers at his home.
Swatting, the criminal harassment of deceiving law enforcement to initiate a response upon another individual isn't a new tool.
But it says here the 39-year-old veteran didn't fear as he walked into a den of law enforcement officials questioning him on his social media posts, specifically X, which somehow warranted a police response or presence.
Gage entered the scene equipped with his camera as it panned across the wasteful display of taxpayer money to the officer gripping his bulky body armor.
I'm going to play a little bit of this and then we'll talk to you because it is quite long.
What I'm doing, I'm pushing my free speech to the maximum.
I'm not saying anything violent.
I don't wish death upon anyone.
I made several videos.
Now, if you want to talk about death threats, I actually have tons of death threats from these people on me that I've posted on Twitter or X. I've had them all saved to my computer of all sorts of deaths.
I have IP addresses I got from these people.
So they're the ones sending me death threats, literally saying to kill me and my family.
Like, if you're going to come in here with shot, I don't even have a gun, by the way, just so you know.
I'm not registered.
I don't have a gun at all.
I have PTSD.
I don't know if I can get a gun.
But anyway, the point is.
I've said things like this that are puns.
They're play on words.
I don't have any intention of hurting anyone.
And I've made videos about this constantly.
So when I say go hard on Jewish people, I'm saying when they make books about white privilege, you see the guy, Alvin Klein, or some Jewish person saying white people, this, white privilege, that.
It could be Tim Wise.
It could be the late Ignev Noel Ignitev.
He's like, white people are a problem.
They can say all this, and we can't push back and say, hey, you know what?
You guys have a Zionist issue or communist issue.
And there's Jewish people behind this stuff.
The point I'm trying to say is I'm not saying anything violent and I'm not going to actually condone violence against Jewish people.
It's alarming to me because I want to say in conjunction with this that you didn't just have the police show up at your door, but you also were targeted by big tech companies.
Now, as you mentioned earlier in the interview, that X, formerly known as X, now called Twitter again, because they've increased censorship tactics.
I'll be leading a public pressure campaign as they've targeted my account recently, which we all probably know maybe why that happened.
Maybe it was a mistake.
I'll give the benefit of the doubt.
And hopefully to raise some awareness, including some of my friends who were recently silenced by them in ways that we're targeting.
I'm not the only person, by the way.
So speaking of what you said, even Libs of TikTok had her Stripe account shut down.
It seems like nobody is really safe.
Whether you're attacking Zionists themselves or their ideologies, like the trans movement, you can still be targeted, even if you are a Zionist.
It's kind of a weird thing.
It is a catch-22, but um, ultimately, it's about dominant allegiance to the platform and not saying anything.
If you want to stay the richest, if you want to stay the safest and the least censored, you essentially need to say the least critical information and uh share the least uh critical information about the regime and what they're trying to accomplish.
If you can go to my screen here, Brian, these are uh old tweets that uh surfaced, they were shared uh by somebody as well.
Uh, you said, I have been de-platformed from both PayPal and Venmo for simply exposing Zionist crimes against Palestinians.
This was on November 2nd of 2023.
You also said, Uh, gee, I wonder which group would use all their power and influence to get my link tree deactivated.
So, let's talk about the difference of these two statements here.
Uh, Venmo and PayPal are financial institutions, transactionary institutions.
It makes a lot of sense to me why you might be deplatformed from these two, but I'll get your take on it.
Linktree is, I guess, a big tech company, probably Silicon Valley, but it's literally where people mostly use to link to their porn accounts, right?
This is like the pussy tree.
This is where girls try to sell their vaginas to children on TikTok without getting their links banned.
This is not any moral company, they have no platform, and it makes no sense.
So, talk to me about this.
Uh, these seem to have happened within days of each other.
Well, yeah, well, there's more censorship after this.
So, yeah, the Venmo and PayPal were like the same day within like minutes.
And the reason for this is because both of those companies are companies are tied with ADL.
So, ADL just makes the call, it's game over.
Linktree, as you said, it's just where people put links.
There's nothing going on.
There, there's no transactions.
Literally, how is this even possible?
This is even violating anything.
Um, that happened.
And then I had a buy me a coffee account, which was getting tons of donations, a lot of support.
That got nuked one day.
And then I got a Ko-fi account.
Ko-fi is like a copycat of buy me a coffee, and that also got nuked within 10 hours.
Literally, so it's like, okay, I can't even accept any donations.
So, you know, my cash app is there and everything, but it's just that these people have so much control.
And any company that has a you know policy with the ADL or connection, they will be told what to do and they will cancel you.
So, and as you mentioned, it doesn't matter who you are.
Like, even Chaya, I know she's a Zionist, she's a Jewish woman.
I guess the left-wing Jews don't like her.
So, they nuked her or got rid of her stripe or something like that.
And it doesn't matter who you are.
If the elites of whatever side want to take you out, they will do it with their because they own it.
I mean, they pretty much own all the payment processors.
I mean, they can do whatever they want.
So, I tried to appeal.
I said, What did I violate?
They said, hateful conduct or something like that.
Like, how does there hateful conduct on links?
What are you talking about?
They just have no answer to it.
You know, it's ridiculous, but that's how these things are.
You get canceled, and they don't even have to really explain it to you and they don't care.
As long as I say what, I'm glad that Stripe, or not Stripe, but um, buy me a coffee allowed me to take my the rest of my funds because usually they just take them, they just don't even give them to you.
So, it's but yeah, PayPal, goodbye.
Everything's out, you know, just like that.
With, I don't know, I guess a phone call from Jonathan Greenblatt or somebody.
So, so much for being an American with freedoms.
I mean, you can't, and that's the thing, Elijah.
People say, Well, the government's not censoring you, they don't have to.
You know, the government's doing the bidding of the corporations.
We live in a corporatocracy, so they don't have to assassinate you or anything.
Just character assassinate you and put you on the street.
It's just as bad.
Maybe it's better off to be shot than that, but that's what's going on.
People are being pressured into self-censorship because of political correctness because these people have their fingers everywhere in all these payment processors and even on Linktree.
Well, okay, so I want to get more into this because there's three topics I want to talk to you.
I want to talk about why they do this.
I do want to talk about Candace Owens and individuals.
It even, like you mentioned there, you know, Shia or Chia, however you want to pronounce her name, being a Zionist woman who also happens to be, you know, Jewish herself, being a victim of this, which does bring up some nuances, idiosyncrasies that we should discuss about who's really in power, right?
And what's the right way to explain it?
Because she's a friend of mine as well.
We talked earlier before the show.
I have plenty of Jewish friends.
My trainer is Jewish.
I've worked with a lot of Jewish people.
I've worked in con conservative media for a long time.
So a lot of the people are.
So it's not like I have any hatred towards anybody like that ethnically.
But I want to know who's really in power because I want control of our own country to be in the hands of Americans who care about American interests, which should be the thought of all people everywhere.
So we'll talk about Candace Owens waking up.
Is she our Nabuyan queen?
I don't know.
Plus, I want to talk about Israel's involvement in the forced selling of TikTok and how they use the threat of China saying China influences America when really they don't influence America as much as you would think.
But we're only going to be able to talk about that on censored.tv.
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It is great to know there's infrastructure involved to keep it alive.
Anyways, my guest is Lucas Gage.
We're getting into some very spicy things about the truth behind Zionist control.
What's actually going on on a day-to-day basis?
Are Jews even safe from Zionist overlords?
And is Candace and what's going on with TikTok related?