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PATRIOT ACT 2.0? Will TikTok Bill BAN ALT-TECH? | Guest: Joshua Smith
The debate RAGES ONLINE today.. is the so-called TikTok bill simply to ban Chinese influence in the US, or is it something more insidious — a trojan horse to set the stage for banning alt-tech platforms such as Gab and Rumble? Some people claim the bill specifically targets foreign-operated companies.. but what is the truth?
Joshua Smith from Break the Cycle joins us tonight to discuss this and more on this night’s episode of NIGHTLY OFFENSIVE!
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Well, I may be white, but when it comes to time, I am black.
We're always just a little bit late.
And that's because I'm in another hemisphere in Australia talking to you about the issues of my own home country.
Brian, if you go to my screen here, whenever this guy comes on the screen, usually we know there's something bad and whatever he's supporting, we probably should disagree with, considering the fact that not only has he lost his eye, which is terrible and we're not going to make fun of, but he's also seemed to have lost his half his mind as well.
I don't know if there's anything that's upset me more in this world than the fact that every single politician that's usually supported by major organizations, major groups turns out to be a total con job.
Dan Crenshaw here is talking about the new ban on TikTok, how we need to ban it.
And so it makes me wonder, perhaps, what's really going on here?
Is this build-to-ban TikTok going to save our youth from cutting off their own penises and becoming transgender?
Or like the government typically does, is it a Trojan horse for something much deeper?
Are they trying to ban Rumble, ban X, get a hold on censorship ahead of the next election so that the deep state can keep its hands on control of everything?
I don't know, but I know we're going to be talking about it today, giving our best predictors.
We're talking about this story and so much more here on this episode of Knightly Offensive.
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Anyway, let's start the show.
All right, for those of you guys that are upset that the music doesn't keep playing, like I told you, we're just using a different software, which doesn't allow music to play over videos while I'm here in Australia.
But I will be back, and the dancing will return eventually, whether you like it or not.
You can't stop the dance.
I have a great guest today.
He's actually running for president in the Libertarian Party, but he's also a show host.
I don't need to give him much of an introduction at all.
Of course, I'm talking about none other than Joshua Smith.
Yeah, I joined the military right after 9-11 to go and protect my countrymen from the terrible terrorists that had attacked us.
And I found that war didn't really make much sense for the American public.
So I got out.
I was an American anti-war activist, four policy activists.
And I worked with Ron Paul in 2007, 2008, of course, on his campaign.
And then I got involved with the Libertarian Party in 2010.
I was the at-large representative from 2018 through 2022 on the LNC, so the Libertarian National Committee, and then I was the vice chair of the LNC after that.
Of course, Ron Paul endorsed me famously in 2020 for chairman of the Libertarian National Committee.
I ended up losing that election.
I host a show called Break the Cycle every Tuesday and Thursday.
You can find that on every platform, but main platforms, Rumble, of course, and YouTube.
But YouTube seems to be kind of shadow banning our views.
Rumble, not so much.
So go check us out on either.
Of course, I'm also a dad of seven in my house currently.
We have ages 12, 11, 9, 6, 3, 1.5, and a newborn.
So some people have called me a prolific father.
I just think I'm barely making it work, but it's happening, you know.
And I'm running for president of the United States of America.
And I'm running on a bold, brash platform to end the wars, combat the Federal Reserve, and put a focus back, a focus back on a strong family unit in the United States.
As many people know, with the institution of Title 4D of the Social Security Act of 1971, we've gone from one in 60 kids living in a fatherless home to one in four.
And I think if you want to find a crux of the vast majority of the issues we're seeing today, that's where you'll find it.
So, dude, yeah, well, I was going to say, I'm really happy to have you on because if you can handle seven children, I'm still trying to handle one and a wife, which is, as a man, you would know it's enough handling your own mind every day, just trying to deal with all the crazy thoughts that are in there and the battle that goes on spiritually.
And then you add kids to the mix.
I'm very happy that you joined us.
And I want to just jump right into this story for today to talk to you and get your opinion, man.
Because if you can go to my screen here, Brian, we're talking about what's going on here.
This is a very important issue.
A lot of people might not be interested in this, but this is actually about to set the precedent for speech on the internet as a whole.
Dan Crenshaw weighed in on this, and we're going to look at the text of the bill.
But he says, we just passed legislation out of the house that will separate TikTok from the Chinese Communist Party.
You've probably heard lies that this bill is a Trojan horse or that it doesn't solve every problem on the planet.
The truth is, this bill just says that TikTok can't be owned by our enemies.
I voted, hell yes.
Now, the current owner of TikTok, Byte Dance, is a Chinese company.
They're bound by Chinese surveillance law to give American data to the CCP.
And by the way, the CCP even has a board seat on Byte Dance.
Voted against this bill as a vote for the Chinese Communist Party.
The opponents of this bill aren't defending free speech.
They're defending Chinese access to American data and American minds.
Not a good look.
And I don't even want to listen to him speak, but we will watch him speak for the sake of it.
Here's what he had to say.
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My colleagues who I think are confused about the First Amendment, confused about the nature of TikTok, and confused about the intentions of the Chinese Communist Party.
Let me explain this really simple.
TikTok is owned by Byte Dance.
ByteDance is in China.
And when you're in China, you have to do whatever the Chinese Communist Party says you have to do.
That's according to the National Intelligence Law passed in 2017.
If they want you to spy for them, you will spy for them.
That's how that works.
They have a board member from the Chinese Communist Party on Byte Dance.
You wouldn't allow a radio tower owned by the Chinese to be put up right in the middle of Washington, D.C., and then allow it to just put out Chinese propaganda.
You probably complained about that.
That's exactly what TikTok can be used for because millions of Americans are addicted to it.
They see it, and the Chinese can absolutely manipulate those algorithms.
The First Amendment does not give the Chinese Communist Party the right to American data or the right to manipulate the minds of Americans.
That would be a really weird interpretation of the First Amendment.
You know, it is pretty crazy to me, though, when we're listening to this, right?
He's talking about we need to ban this.
Now, we have to be so careful when we're seeing who's saying something because everyone can say something that sounds good.
Everyone can say something that appeals to us.
Even Biden says fantastic things.
I think he said that the economy is great.
Elizabeth Warren just said that Americans are doing better financially under Biden.
I mean, these are all fantastic things.
I don't want Biden even to fail.
So, if it was true, that's great.
Let me get your initial thoughts on this.
Do you believe, Dan Crenshaw, that which is a real probability that he could be correct here?
TikTok is a cancer on our society and that it is controlled by the communists as an intellectual weapon to dumb down our country, to introduce harmful ideas like transgender ideology while at the same time lowering our attention span and needs to be eradicated.
Or do you believe the people who are against this on our side saying, okay, yeah, it makes sense what he's saying, but it's a Trojan horse, meaning we agree on the TikTok, but the bill itself, the wording, gives control to ban any platform.
And we know what they really want to ban is what we're live on right now, Rumble, and also to get back at Elon Musk on X. Or is it something different?
As a libertarian, as a father, as somebody who knows what's going on, I want to know what's going on.
Well, I think, first of all, if you're a parent that's letting your small children on TikTok, you probably need to rethink that.
Honest to God, it's, you know, listen, I have a TikTok, I use TikTok for my campaign and all this stuff.
Well, here's, here's iPatch McCain is basically just an extension of the national security state now.
That's all he is.
Anybody that's watched him in his 10 year knows that he doesn't give a shit about the American public.
It's all about the military-industrial complex.
It's all about the national security state.
It's all about how much power he can grab for AIPAC and these, you know, these PACs that support him.
Look, you're using a phone right now and technology right now that has chips made in China.
Okay.
Tell me what the difference is with the videos on TikTok and the videos on Twitch and the videos on Twitter and the videos on Facebook.
I mean, this transgender ideology and this, you know, this kind of movement for wokeism is happening everywhere.
It's not just happening on TikTok.
So like it being a tool to try and push this agenda just kind of is like everything is a tool to push this agenda in the United States right now.
The communists infiltrated in 1970s.
I mean, Yuri Besmanov was warning us.
He defected from the KGB in Soviet Russia and came here and told us, like, hey, we're right now infiltrating all of your, all of your institutions, your churches, your governments, your academia, all of it, everything.
And they've been doing this for years and years and years.
And the attack on the family and making effeminate weak men.
I mean, this is something that they've been doing for years and years and years.
It didn't just start with TikTok.
This is a Trojan horse.
It's absolutely a Trojan horse.
And, you know, Dan Crenshaw says, hey, we wouldn't let the Chinese come over here and put up a tower in the middle of DC or whatever, right?
But you know what else?
You know what else we wouldn't let happen?
We wouldn't go to China and let China tell us that if Ford wanted to operate in China, then they have to own Ford.
Guarantee you could bet your ass that not a single person in America would agree with that.
And that's basically what we're doing here.
We're telling them because your company may work with the Chinese government, that you have to divest your company and someone has to own it in America.
Like this is an unprecedented thing.
This is the Patriot Act for it for the internet.
I mean, this is exactly what it is.
It is a Trojan horse.
It's absolutely going to be used to trash and take away any website that they don't like.
I mean, this is what the federal government in the United States has wanted for a long time.
Not only does it take give them the right to go through and take out things like X and Rumble and Odyssey and all these companies, which they've already gone at Odyssey, right?
But it also is going to give all the power to Facebook.
And we know if anybody's followed along with this, this shit for the last decade.
I mean, we don't want Facebook to have all the market cap in this space.
And that's what it does.
It will give it all to Facebook.
And so, yeah, it's a really ugly Trojan horse.
And, you know, it sucks because just like the Patriot Act, all the worst shit this country goes through always has bipartisan support.
I mean, 15 Republicans voted no on this.
That's it.
That's the only support for the no's that we had in Congress.
And, you know, and it doesn't even have a sunset clause.
So like, this doesn't even sunset.
They're going to use this through every election forever.
If you've, if you've watched anything, you know, anything at all with the national security state, you know that this is their goal.
This is what they want.
They want full and total control of the narrative of information.
And this is just another stepping, one of the biggest stepping stones, maybe ever, at least since like they couldn't pass this, but that they can pass this.
I mean, Jeffree Star was doing this on MySpace, right?
Like 20 years ago.
And so like, and so like, so like, yeah, Dylan has like a much bigger platform than Jeffree Star had 20 years ago on MySpace, but like it's, it's not, it's, it didn't create this that like society created this.
Like a society of weak people created this, like made men feel like they could be effeminate, right?
Like like, I mean, it's, it's, you know, I, I hesitate to say that TikTok created this.
Like this is a trend that's been trending this way since the 80s, right?
Like this, you know, the whole emo phase, like, I don't know if you were a part of the scene and all that.
Of course, I was too.
I mean, it was like huge in, you know, the early 2000s and to the mid-2000s.
And like, like, this was happening then too.
Like, this is, you know, Dylan's obviously trying to like troll everybody.
I mean, really, this is, you know, this is the days of girlhood.
That's a parent or womanhood or whatever.
Like, it's obviously a big troll to like on purpose because the hate gives him.
the it gives him all the the platform.
I mean, that's what it is.
That's how he's built his platform was through the hate.
And so like, I hesitate to say that TikTok created this.
I think TikTok might have given a bigger platform to this, but it's been going on since the 80s.
There's just no doubt about that.
And, you know, I said it last night on the show.
I've said it on a ton of other shows over the last, you know, 10 years.
We're at a point now in the in the circular diagram, right?
Where we're either the tough men that create good times or our kids are going to have to be the tough men who create good times.
And, you know, it's, it's kind of the cycle how things go, you know, and, you know, look, the communist agenda has weakened America.
It's weakened tough men.
It's weakened families.
It's weakened faith and religion.
It's weakened all the things that would combat this stuff.
And it's part of the plan.
And so we either got to fight that or we lose.
And so like, so like, yeah, or is China like a threat to America?
That's another thing too, right?
Like we get this, we get in this like, especially with the neocons, we get in this like crazy kind of like circular argument about China being this huge threat in the United States and how we, you know, and now we, now the whole thing is like this, this war over Taiwan, right?
Like we, we, we have basically big brothered Taiwan since Nixon, right?
We told Taiwan in the 70s, like, okay, well, don't fuck with China or we might not protect you.
And then we told China, like, don't mess with Taiwan or we might protect them.
And it's worked.
We've never had to say, we've never said we were going to war with China.
China's not a threat to us.
China's like a paper economy.
There's like millions, millions and millions, hundreds of millions of people living in like abject poverty.
They have cities that are completely abandoned.
Like it's not, it's not what people think it is at all.
And so like, there's this whole tripwire for war now with Taiwan.
And so like, they're going to build up this whole like war with the CCP thing because that's how they make their money, right?
Like this is how the people in Congress make their money.
I mean, people walk into Congress with 20 bucks in their pocket and walk out with, you know, $200 million.
I mean, they're making money, right?
And like the military industrial complex has to make their money.
And to continue to do that, they have to continue these, you know, these crazy wars all over the world.
And if that means war with China, if that means war with Russia, if that means war with Iran or any of the other Middle Eastern countries, they're going to get it.
And so this is just another step in that to me.
And I think that, you know, Massey brings up some really good points about this that, you know, all the stuff they're saying about TikTok specifically has been happening for a long time anyways.
You know, half the shit we use in the United States today is made in China.
And a lot of that is because of the monetary policies and the regulations in the United States.
I mean, really, we have a government that pushed businesses out to other countries and then bitches about other countries having businesses that operate in the United States.
So like, really, you know, none of these guys are American first.
The only people I can say that are American first that actually care are the 15 that voted no, right?
Because they know that this is going to be used for, it's going to, it's going to harm Americans.
And Massey said this in his address to Congress.
He said, we're not going to prosecute China over this, right?
Like this is not how this is going to work.
We're going to prosecute the people who hold servers that run TikTok.
And those are Americans.
Like they're looking to prosecute Americans.
They can't do anything to China over this whatsoever.
Nothing at all.
They could prosecute Americans.
And that's what this is all about because they're going to, once they have that precedent to do it for Americans here, for their servers and websites, then they're going to do it to everybody.
They're coming after Elon.
Guaranteed they're coming after Elon.
They're going after Rumble.
They've already gone after Odyssey.
They don't want any websites out there where we can freely talk about, I mean, all kinds of things, you know, like the counter Semitism, right?
Like there's a noticing movement.
They don't want people talking about that.
They don't want people talking about the warfare state.
They don't want people talking about the COVID regime and their terrible, terrible tyranny that they pulled on us over the last four years.
They don't want people talking about this.
And they made that very clear when they worked with Twitter to have us removed from Twitter before Elon bought it.
So this is all just smoke and mirrors.
The federal government has always been about smoke and mirrors to gain more power, gain more money.
Yeah, because I, you know, I want to ban it, but I get afraid because they never, they always try to give us security and then they take away our rights and our freedoms in that way.
And you already see it's gone down hard, man.
I mean, I haven't talked about it publicly yet, but, you know, I got demonetized on X for doing my job.
And I'm the only one I know of that hasn't gotten remonetized after they did a manual review and said like that they didn't, you know, they looked at my profile and they don't align with my values.
And this is new.
This happened actually like three days ago.
And originally they had demonetized it for sharing a story.
And I think I'm one of the only journalists to get demonetized for sharing a story.
It was an anti-government story.
And they claimed that it was like inciting violence, but it was actually just a breaking news story about this guy named Justin Moan.
And they claimed that it was like, you know, incendiary.
And I'm like, you know, as a credentialed journalist, it currently works for a large publication that has millions of daily readers sharing a important story.
When you're telling me I can't share stuff like that, when people are self-emulating, when people are, you know, bombing Palestinians, just killing children, and I can't share a story of a guy who's critical of the U.S. government.
That's an interesting choice considering what's on X every day.
And you go, well, you know, maybe they just don't want to monetize you.
No, they deleted my posts.
They took them down.
They took down my posts.
And they go, well, it was uncensored.
I go, no, I re-uploaded it.
It's censored.
And I censored the graphic parts and I took everything out.
And then they deleted.
They kept deleting any time I mentioned this guy's name.
Then they blocked this guy, Justin Moan's name, from their search.
And then they demonetized me.
And it's been really rough.
And it's like, how did I get demonetized on X?
It wasn't even racism or anti-Semitism or anything.
It was sharing an anti-government video.
And it wasn't even because I supported it.
It was because that's just what the guy was talking about, about the government.
And he wasn't citing violence against the U.S. government.
But I mean, to be fair, it's a breaking news story.
It's what was going on.
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So what I was going to say is what's crazy is Thomas Massey talked about it.
If you go to my screen here, Brian, Thomas Massey said, today I claimed 20 minutes in opposition to the TikTok ban bill and yielded time to several like-minded colleagues.
This bill gives the president far too much authority to determine what Americans can see and do on the internet.
This is my closing statement before I voted no.
And so I want to watch it.
It's a little long.
It's three and a half minutes.
But I wanted to look at the opposition because when Thomas Massey is against something and Dan Crenshaw is for something, just on their reputations of being liars and snakes, I'm more likely to back up Thomas on this one.
I know the other side is sincere, and we've not questioned that here today, and I won't question their sincerity.
In fact, I think they've identified at least three problems that we have in America.
Moral decay of our society, invasion of Americans' privacy, and our competitiveness with China.
But in this case, their cure is worse than the diseases.
You know, there are ways to get at these root problems.
We just haven't taken it upon ourselves to address those root problems with actual legislative solutions that have been put forth here in Congress.
For instance, Mr. Warren Davidson's, the Fourth Amendment is not for sale act, would put a strong stake in the ground to protect Americans' privacy, whether it's from our own government or some foreign governments.
That is the kind of thing we need.
We need warrants in the FISA program.
You shouldn't be able to, our government shouldn't be able to spy on Americans without a warrant.
Yet they are.
Let's bring that to the floor and vote on it.
These are the kind of cures we need, not the bill that's offered here today.
The bill that's offered here today, even though I know it's offered genuinely, it could also be named the Facebook Protection and Enhancement Act.
Because it's not the American people who are going to benefit most from this.
It will be Facebook.
Their stock is going to go up if this bill should pass the Senate.
Now, what are some ways that we could improve this bill?
Well, it should at least have a sunset.
I mean, that's the only reason we're able to debate whether FISA should have warrants in it, because it sunsets.
And what have we observed?
FISA's been abused.
That's my concern with this TikTok ban.
It will be abused.
If it's just banning TikTok and ByteDance and copies of that, why does it need to be 13 pages long?
And I know they say it doesn't ban it.
It forces divestiture of the company.
This sounds like when American companies try to do business in third world countries and a dictator says, well, you can do business here.
You just got to give me your company.
And now you can continue to do business.
We wouldn't let another country take over Ford Motor Company for selling Ford cars in their country.
Yet that's what we're wanting to do here.
And again, you know, this is a cure that is worse than the disease.
Who's going to be prosecuted by this bill?
Is it ByteDance or TikTok?
Will they be taken to court?
No.
I mean, they're the target of this, but how do you elicit or effect a ban on them?
By prosecuting Americans.
The only way you can ban TikTok and the other companies from being here is to say what this bill says, which is we will bring civil action.
The government will bring a civil action suit against you if you so much as host them here.
If you have an app store that allows them to be here, you are an American or an American company and you will be the target of this bill.
Those are the only people who can be pursued under this bill.
And I know it's in order to go after TikTok, or so they say.
Well, I would just close by saying that, you know, we're sitting here with phones made in China.
We're wearing suits made in China.
We drove cars here with chips that are made in China.
And they're our foreign adversary.
And by golly, we're going to do something about it.
What are we going to do?
You're going to tell Americans they can't put a piece of software on their computer.
They can't go to certain websites that the president designates.
So I urge my colleagues to oppose this well-intentioned bill because it will have bad consequences.
Well, I mean, yeah, I just want to get your take on that.
I mean, that was, I know these episodes sometimes, guys, when we're talking about bills and stuff, for some reason, they just don't do as well in terms of numbers.
People aren't that interested.
And that really is sad.
And I get why, though, is that whenever we're talking about a bill or something, nobody actually cares.
They'll care about some white girl getting her head bastion, which you should care about.
They'll care about, you know, like the drama in the moment.
But the things that actually cause the problems, like these bills, right?
When you see what's happening in January 6th, everybody's mad about January 6th, but not knowing that a huge reason why the police state has been so effective is because of the Patriot Act.
There is literally a bill that gives this authority to the intelligence agencies, and they've increased their budget, their coordination, their communication, and they're able to pull these warrants to spy on American citizens under the guise of domestic terrorism charges.
So you get mad at January 6th, not realizing that that wouldn't have been possible if we had stopped the Patriot Act, which Massey actually did work on stopping.
And then we look at this and it's like, bro, I hate TikTok as much as anybody else.
But at the same time, like he said, this is going to be used to go after American companies.
And I don't think it's going to be used to go after the app stores to stop them from hosting TikTok.
I think it's going to be used to go after sites like Rumble and X, like I said, and to stop those conversations.
I mean, that's a, that's a kind of a joke, but, but I just mean, like, what are we going to do, right?
You're going back to this and you want to say who's causing these problems in our country.
Is it really China?
Are they the ones that, who owns the slave ships?
You know, you don't like, you don't like having the race relations here?
Find out who brought the black people here.
You don't like slavery?
Who brought them here?
Oh, you don't like porn?
You don't like sexualizing children?
Who pushed for pornography to be legalized, right?
These are good questions you should ask yourself and wonder, why are we always attacking every other country app and software rather than going to the source of the problem?
Well, that's because we are figuring out what the source of the problem is.
Like you mentioned earlier, there's a big noticing campaign going on.
People don't like it.
Candace Owens is noticing.
People are out there speaking about this stuff and they don't want us talking about it.
So they're trying to shut us up.
I think this all has to do with not talking about who's behind everything because the stopping anti-Semitism on campuses, all this stuff is because everyone's realizing what's going on and it's getting out of control.
And so they've got to do something serious.
And the way they're going to do that is by trying to protect students on campus and protect children online and make it look good.
But really, they're just trying to shut us all up.
Oh, and Greenblatt's going to have every, I mean, look, here's the deal.
And this is, I think it's like page 10 or 11.
It's towards the back end of this, this bill.
It does give the president like the full power to basically just shut down websites.
I mean, really, that's what it does at the end of the day.
And you know damn well that the ADL and Greenblatt and these guys are going to be calling every time they are offended.
They're going to be calling DC like, hey, this website is anti-Semitic.
It needs to be shut down.
Like it's going to happen.
Absolutely going to happen.
And it sucks.
Like, look, look, I sympathize.
I'm a libertarian, okay?
People understand that libertarians, we're really like anti-just like banning shit all the time.
But I sympathize because I am, you know, at my heart, I'm kind of like a Christian nationalist.
Of course, I'm very religious and even really Orthodox Christian at this point doing catechism and all this stuff.
So like, I sympathize with the like movement to ban this shit.
Like I do, I get it.
I understand.
Like, I don't want, I don't want my kids to ever be in a situation where they might have to see this agenda and play out in front of them.
That's, but that's also why we homeschool our kids and we don't let them go to like normal everyday shit.
And we monitor what they do if they have the internet and we monitor the shows they watch.
Like, parents are supposed to, you know, that's what we're supposed to do.
That's like our job.
But like, I sympathize with people, but also I understand.
And some, you know, my friends that are Republicans and conservatives, they don't want to hear this shit, but they need to hear it.
Like every single thing that you push to try and ban the other side will be used against you tenfold.
I promise you.
We've watched it forever.
And, you know, my first noticing, you know, as a young adult was when I looked back on Waco.
Okay.
Now, you could say whatever you want about David Koresh.
He might have been the biggest piece of shit in the world.
Maybe you're right about that.
I don't know.
Okay.
But he was selling legal guns.
Okay.
The ATF could have came and picked him up.
He took a morning jog every morning by himself on these country roads.
They could have nabbed him at any time.
They went out to all these gun shows.
He could have nabbed him.
They could have nabbed him at any of these gun shows, right?
Like there were so many opportunities.
But what happened was, you know, Janet Reno and then the ATF was like, it was right about the time for the budget committee hearings.
They needed to get a bigger budget.
They actually called before the siege.
They actually called every media, like large media company in the country and said, hey, we're going to lay siege to this place.
You guys need to get out here.
Like they called the media to come and watch it so that they could go on the media and say, look, we have a problem with domestic terrorism.
These guys are raping little girls and they have a plan to kill ATF agents and kill all these people.
So they laid siege to this place on national television, international television.
And then, you know, because of that, they got the budgets they wanted, right?
And they just continue to do shit like that.
You got to understand.
This is something that people need to understand about the national security state and just the federal government in general.
The way the budgets work, if you don't spend your whole budget, you're not getting that budget in the next budgetary year, right?
And if you go over your budget, you have the opportunity to ask for a bigger budget.
So like, that's how these, these, these government, like this, this bureaucratic state or whatever Vivek wanted to call it, right?
The administrative state, this is how they work.
This is literally how they work.
They continue to push for bigger budgets so that they could, you know, militarize and get all these new toys and do all these crazy things, but they have to have a, they have to have a villain.
You have to have a villain.
It's the same with the military industrial complex, right?
It's even the same to some extent with the academia, the media, like they have to have a villain.
If you don't have a villain, you can't operate.
You can't continue to raise money.
It just doesn't work that way, right?
It's the same in politics, right?
Like we have to hate that guy.
They have to hate us because that's how we raise money.
And like, that's the, that's like the rut we're in as a society in the United States.
And so after Waco, and you know, I joined the military after 9/11, and then I saw how 9-11 was used to push war in Iraq, the Patriot Act, TSA, all these things that were supposed to sundown, all these crazy gun laws that, you know, Reagan passed.
And then, of course, everybody since him, all the way up through Trump, even passed all these crazy gun regulations to make our society, you know, harder and tougher on guns and make it harder for peaceful, law-abiding citizens.
You know, we can just print them in our basement.
So it doesn't matter anymore.
Debate's over.
But the truth is, it's like these things are always used to push a political agenda all the time.
And if you think that this is any different, if you think this is any different, boy, I got a bridge to sell you in Arizona, right?
Like waterfront property to sell you in Arizona.
Like there's no, absolutely no way that they're not going to abuse this.
And I don't care, Democrat, Republican, all the worst shit in America finds bipartisan support.
And this is no different for a reason because they want that power.
They want to be able to use that power in election years.
And the Republicans that are voting for it are thinking, all right, this will be good for us when it's our turn, right?
But like, we just are stuck in this like back and forth cycle forever about like, you know, you know, we got to use this power on them.
And then four years later, they're going to use this power tenfold on us.
And it just keeps getting worse and worse and worse.
And at some point, you know, the national security state is going to run your house, you know, entirely.
They're going to completely monitor and feed all the information you're allowed to have on the internet.
That's what this is going to cause.
This is what's going to cause for you.
And we're all shut down.
I mean, people like me, people like Elijah, people like even like Tim Poole.
I mean, they'll shut them down.
You're done, right?
Like, there's absolutely no way that they will continue to let us operate once they have the power to shut us down.
It's just, it's how it is.
And, you know, we're only lying to ourselves if we're saying that's not the truth.
And I, I think that's why these conversations are important because, you know, it's like, I have to make this episode with you because when what we're saying is true and it becomes truth, I just need to have this as like a bookmark.
You know, this is like, look, there's a lot of shit I want to talk about today, but we have to speak out against this because this is really alarming and it's passed, which is which is not mind-blowing, but it's like, dude, I'm agreeing with people from the Heritage Foundation.
Let's bring up this thread.
I want to read this.
This is crazy.
It's like, okay, so Kevin Roberts breaks this down here.
And I'd rather give him the credit directly his words.
As Congress prepares to vote on the Protect Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, that's a mouthful.
It's crucial to question why TikTok doesn't opt for the divestment instead of exaggerating concerns over a potential ban it isn't obligated to face.
The answer lies in TikTok's deep connection to the CCP through its parent company, ByteDance.
Beijing-based ByteDance is subject to the People's Republic of China's laws and policies that permit the CCP's access to the data it collects.
Chinese officials, former and current, are embedded in TikTok's parent company and involved in companies' inner workings through an internal corporate CCP committee and board seat, ByteDance domestic subsidiary.
Leaked recordings and testimony from ex-employees revealed that the CCP has supreme access to all TikTok data with China-based engineers accessing non-public American user data.
TikTok was even implicated in an attempt to surveil the locations of American journalists by ByteDance employees.
Beyond this, TikTok consistently censors content suppressing information on China's Uyghur population genocide, Hong Kong protests, Tibetan independence, and generally critical topics of the CCP.
This doesn't even scratch the surface of China's noxious influence on our next generation as TikTok becomes a primary news source.
Reports indicate that TikTok attempted to manipulate public opinion in 2022, blah, blah, blah.
Americans don't owe China anything.
Don't owe them the right to spy on or manipulate our citizens.
The First Amendment doesn't extend to the CCP.
So it says this bill is narrow and targeted, written so that it only applies to social media apps, associated websites controlled by China, yada, yada, yada.
Okay, so it's like, I agree with his take that we don't owe China anything, that this app is destructive.
And I want to clarify this before I come against the bill, I actually don't support TikTok because I've noticed I can't, I have a really hard time making on TikTok.
I've lost like six accounts and I noticed that they delete videos that I put that are true and they're not even, and sometimes they're not even, they don't even give a reason.
They just say, this went against our community guidelines.
And I've had it where they've deleted a video for like hate and harassment.
And then I get them to reinstate it because I go, this video, hate and harassment, this is a video about sewer systems collapsing in Los Angeles or something.
Like it's sewer system.
I'm talking about the sewer systems.
What does it have to do with anything?
Then they'll reinstate the video and then delete it and say it violates our community standards.
And you're going, wait, I don't understand.
And then I look up something and realize that there's some connection, yeah, to a foreign government or there's somebody running a race.
And you're going, okay, there's definitely TikTok is bullshit, especially because people go to it for news.
They are selective on what you can talk about.
They're the most selective.
I was talking about with the YouTube audience, how I want to stop.
I really want to stop streaming on YouTube eventually before the end of this year, because it's pointless to even stream there because there's so much censorship.
We, about every three to four months, the last year and a half, they've removed almost all of our videos or seven to 10 videos.
And then our views were suspended for a week and then our viewers are cut by half when we return.
And they've like successfully shut the live stream down from like 2,500 people live down to like 300 or 400 in a matter of a year by just deleting and deleting our watch hours, deleting our time.
It's not like they're like necessarily putting a kill switch and making people not watch.
They just delete your watch hours and then that takes down your recommendations and the algorithms.
The vast majority of the people are just retarded.
I mean, that's at the end of the day, that's really the truth.
You, you talked about it, you know, when you're talking about how you do a show about the bill and you get half the viewers or whatever, right?
And that's like, it's the truth, man.
That's really how it is.
When you do something that's like important, when you talk about something that's like important, like a bill that can literally shut us all down.
I mean, I 100% believe that it will be used to shut us down on any website that we're on telling the truth.
I believe that 100% in my heart.
I've watched the federal government operate for long enough now to understand that this is what this means for us.
And so like, so like, yeah, it's, it is hard.
And YouTube, you know, we, there was a, there was a point on YouTube where we were making, you know, maybe two to three thousand dollars a month on just doing YouTube, just streaming to YouTube only and then having it automatically sync up to Odyssey, right?
And we're down to like, we're down to like less than 300 bucks a month now, man.
I mean, and it's, and it's been really, it's truthfully, like our viewer count just continues to drop.
They constantly kick like subscribers off our YouTube all the time.
They don't put our live streams in the algorithm anymore.
It's like, it is a soft censorship.
I mean, that's really, you know, they have the right to do that, right?
Like, and it's funny because we're talking about TikTok and how they manipulate this and they spy on people, but like, is our government doing anything different when it comes to social media?
Absolutely not.
They literally worked with Twitter to shut us down during the COVID regime, right?
And during the last election, like it's not any different than what our government's doing.
They just want to be the only ones to be able to do it, right?
And so like, you know, I, man, I wish people would pay attention to this stuff more often.
And like, that's part of the reason why I'm doing this campaign too.
It's like, you know, it's not, it's not like I'm a libertarian.
I'm running as a libertarian.
And, you know, I'm under no illusion that I'm going to win the presidency, right?
Like, that's just stupid to think that I'm going to come in in 2024 and win the presidency.
But what it can do is get the nomination going on 50 state media tour, talk about these very important issues in front of the electorate, these people that actually do read the bills and actually do vote, right?
Not just the people who watch shows.
I appreciate you for watching the shows and trying to educate yourself, but there's a vast majority of the people who vote out there that don't watch these shows and do read bills and do pay attention to the news and do watch Congress committee hearings and stuff like that.
And so like, so like, you know, we need more people.
And I hate to say this, and a lot of people don't want to hear this either, but like, you need to run for office, man.
This is, this is, you know, along with the noticing and kind of this like counterculture, like counterrevolutionary movement to like, you know, be a like a normal society with like normal families that like, you know, own homes and can own homes again and like all these things that are like counter culture now, just being normal.
Like if you really want to see that reinstated, you got to go out and tell people.
And the best way you're going to be able to do that is run for like your local board or like run for state rep or run for, you know, run for state Congress or any of these things.
I mean, that's really, you're going to get in front of people who vote a lot quicker that way than you will just doing shows all the time.
And so like, that's why I'm doing this because it gives me the opportunity to go out and I know I'm a third party guy.
And maybe, you know, maybe we get like one quinipac poll and pull it 15% and they put me in the debate.
And then I get to debate Donald Trump and Joe Biden, but I get to say all these things to them to America like on a big stage.
And so, you know, it's, it's not going to stop.
Like, it's not just going to stop.
Like a lot of people, I think they have it in their heads that like just going to stop.
And like, if we're not brave, if we don't step up now and start saying the things that need to be said and doing the things that need to be done, right?
Like, like if you're worried about being called a racist or an anti-Semite or a homophobe or a transphobe, like you're not brave because you're going to be called those things.
I get called a racist.
I got called a racist the other day for saying we need to end the Federal Reserve, man.
Like it's I only invited you on the show because you're racist.
I mean, that's, hey, that's, you know, I can't be friends with someone.
If somebody hasn't been called a racist, a homophobe, or an anti-Semite, I can't even have them over for dinner.
I don't trust them around my children.
You know what I mean?
Like, people are like, it's like, dude, if you're, if you, if you promote gay people, like you can't come around my children.
And look, I, and that doesn't mean if you're gay, I look, I'm not talking about that.
I mean, I saw a clip from Gavin McGinnis the other day where he was like, it was so funny.
He's like, you know, when you're, when 20 years ago, when your kid came home and said something homophobic, you'd be a little concerned because you'd be like, man, I hope my kid isn't like a complete dick and just like bullying kids because they're a little weak or something and get in trouble.
And he goes, now your kid comes home, says something homophobic.
And you go, hell yeah, that's good.
That means he's not going to be groomed and he's awake and he knows what's going on because we went quickly from like, you know, being homophobic meant like literally bashing the heads in of like gay kids to homophobic means I don't want people teaching my children about gay sex.
Like, and that's considered homophobic now.
So being homophobic is really good.
Being anti-Semitic is really good because anti-Semitism means like if you point out, you say, I don't want Palestinian kids to die, helpless deaths, that's anti-Semitic.
And so if fighting for children is anti-Semitism, then that's good.
And I always get taken out of context.
And I would always say, Elijah said with a presidential candidate, anti-Semitism is good.
And he nodded his head yes.
And you're like, well, yeah, if you're a retard, you would take this out of context.
But if you understand what we're saying, is all these words have lost their meaning.
I want to play this video for you because I want to talk about your presidential campaign.
When we're talking about why this bill got introduced and what it is and who wants it banned, the thing about TikTok is, is there's a lot of noticing going on on TikTok.
All right, let's see if we can get some well-well wells in the chat here, some triple W's.
And by the way, I have to explain this because, like, can I just say this?
You know, people are always like just hating everybody when we talk about this issue.
I have Jewish people on the show all the time who are awake to what's going on.
Okay.
Just because you're white does not mean that I think that you support crazy white women that are, you know, pushing their children to be trans or whatever like that.
You know, just because you're Hispanic doesn't mean I assume you promote illegal immigration or you, you know, are on board with it.
And just because you're black does not mean that I think you're a hood rat.
I think there's a high chance you could be, but not that you are.
But I'm just saying, as, you know, joking aside, they co-op talking about, there's like, like, that's why you said you have to be careful saying it because we're still on YouTube.
But it's like, what he's saying is there's, when you say the Jews, there's two different groups, right?
There's people who are just ethnically Jewish who may be politically unmotivated, have no idea what's going on in the world and have no concern or may even be on your side and know that there's this other group that claims that they represent all the Jews and they use the Holocaust and anti-Semitism as shields to prevent any criticism.
And that group, that second group is evil.
So not everybody who is Jewish is evil.
And I think some people think that.
I don't think that.
But I think that I know I have a lot of good Jewish friends who are great people.
But this Jewish lobby that claims to represent Jewish people, this AI PAC, this group, is 100% an enemy of the United States, is 100% behind a lot of the shenanigans in our country.
And they have control of a lot of people.
And I know that because I've told people, I've had people say all types of things about me.
I've had crazy interactions.
I've, you know, been, you know, beat up.
I've had guns pulled on me.
I've had people say the worst things about me.
And nothing has affected my personal relationships in this industry.
I lost like 90% of my personal relationships when I came out against this global Zionist regime idea, this ADL, all this stuff.
They all cut me off.
I had people block my phone number that I don't haven't talked to in a year and like, or text me and be like, it's over.
We'll never, don't ever talk to me again.
And I was like, all I did was say, I just don't want this group in power.
So they have control over like 90% of the people I used to know.
It's really insane, man.
And that's why I'm thinking it's scary to me because it's a group that manipulates American policy to not benefit our country.
And when you talk about it, that's what I'm saying.
They always say, oh, so you hate Jews.
And the answer is no, I don't.
But I hate this group of people that claim to represent them, right?
I hate AI PAC.
I do not like AI PAC.
I do not like the ADL.
I do not like Jonathan Greenblood.
And I think these people are demonstrably evil and they're working for the devil.
So maybe that's too spicy for you.
I don't know because you're running for president.
So I'm not trying to ruin your life here.
But I just think that it's an intellectually dishonest thing for people to think that, you know, if you're against the ADL and AI PAC, somehow you're against all Jewish people.
It's just stupid.
It's stupid.
And I'm not going to defend myself anymore.
I am against these groups because they're evil.
And maybe you disagree with me.
Maybe you can't say, but I had to say it because even this guy was afraid to say it.
Don't you, listen, Elijah, don't you think if they were really worried about foreign influence in America, this would have been called the Stop Israel bill, right?
Like the Stop AIPAC bill?
Like this nobody, nobody, no entity or organization in the world has more influence in American politics today than APAC.
I mean, that's just absolutely 100% the truth.
If you guys don't believe that, go look it up.
I don't care.
I mean, this is known.
Like they, you know, the American Israeli PAC will actually tell you that they have more influence over politics in the United States than any other lobby in the world.
Now, you want to end foreign influence.
I said this on Stew Peters a couple of weeks ago when I was on with Stu.
You know, 100%, they are a terrorist organization.
Okay.
They are using force, fraud, and coercion to influence political action in the United States.
100%.
This isn't a conspiracy, guys.
This is the truth.
This is absolutely true.
And APAC needs to go the way of the dustbin of history.
And, you know, all foreign influence in the United States.
Okay.
And when we're talking about like, what's more detrimental?
Okay.
The CCP collecting data so they can sell you junk on the internet for the most part.
Right.
Or like Israel like lobbying the government to continue us in 25 wars around the Middle East and take our tax money to use on their iron dome or whatever it is.
Like, I'll tell you, it's a lot worse, right?
And I do have a problem with like Judaism in general as a Christian.
Any Christian should, right?
Like they don't believe in Jesus was the savior and the Lord and they don't believe in the new covenant and they don't believe in the new testament.
And like, so like, if you're a religious Christian and you're like, we have to protect Israel at all costs because they're our biggest ally, like they hate you.
They hate your savior.
They hate your Lord and like you're really just being used as a pawn, a Goy pawn right like Shabbos, Goi right and like and so um, you know, I think people like this is what I say like you got to get really brave here.
You got to be brave here because we're, we're now getting to the part in in history where just saying that that Jesus is lord is becoming Anti-semitic man, and that's insane to me, absolutely insane.
In America, in a nation that's, 70 of the people in this country will openly say that they're Christian.
They will identify as Christian of some sort.
It's becoming anti-semitic to see Jesus is lord or Jesus is king or any of these things that that Christians say, and so like, so like.
Either you're brave or you let go of your Christian your, your Christian beliefs, your principles, you know your politics, your country, your culture.
All of these things that are important to Americans are gone, absolutely gone, and I I told Stu not only are they influencing America, we're under occupation, like a country that sends 60 billion dollars out of the country at the benefit of zero Americans is under foreign occupation.
We're not.
We're not.
We're not just under like, foreign influence.
We're under foreign occupation because 400 congress, people are members of a pack or are financed by a pack.
And let me tell you i'm not going to be financed by a pack.
I'm sure of that.
I'm absolutely positive that, and i'm also going to be the only presidential candidate in the race, should I get the nomination, the only one that won't put on the tiny hat and go kiss the wall right.
So like so, like you know I, I know, I know that, like a lot of people are, like they want to like tiptoe around these issues right, but like there's been a real agenda by Israel to to weaken America for a long time, much bigger agenda than China has, much.
Don't even get me started on Russia.
Russia would probably like America to be stronger.
You know what I mean.
Um they they, they're tired of us trying to push our effeminate ways on them and so like so, like you know, this is why I keep bringing up this like brave thing, like we're either going to be brave about it or we're just going to go home and let them take over.
I mean, that's really what it is.
And you know i'm not.
I don't get into the holocaust, denialism and some of some of these things these other people do, but there's no doubt that these things are used 100 as a crudgel to stop you from speaking about, you know, Israel's influence in American politics.
Uh God, just talking about God and and Jesus in general, and bringing up the Talmud or any of these things like, it's used as a crudgel to shut you down and call you Anti-semitic and and and not let you talk about your principles, and it's gonna get worse.
It's gonna get so much worse.
But I do, you know, I said this in the beginning of the show we're either the the the part of history of strong men that create good times, or our children are going to be.
And I, you know, i'm seeing it in my own kids.
Um, we do have the two adopted kids.
They have to go to public school.
It was part of the uh, part of the adoption agreement.
Um, they have to be in some type of school where they can report any abuse or anything like that right, and so um, my son, who's 12, comes home and he goes, hey, there's a, there's a gay.
Uh, there's a gay club at my school.
He's 12, he's in middle school right, and i'm like, yeah, you know that that sucks.
How do you feel about that?
He's like well, there's no straight club.
I'm like, yeah.
He's like well, why do they have a club?
And we can't have a club?
And i'm like, i'm like, why don't you start one?
He's like you want to get mad at me.
I'm like no, absolutely not.
What are Going to do?
Tell you you can't, you're not allowed to start a straight club when they have a gay club on campus.
And so he's like working to start a straight club.
And I'm seeing it in the next generation.
I am.
I really am.
I had this argument on my show with my co-host who thinks that, you know, the generation, two generations under us now are all these like incels that are terminally online.
But I really do believe that, you know, they're kind of coming back to like this traditional way of thought, because they're tired of seeing the wackadoodleness that that's going on in the United States right now with, you know, going to school and hearing that they have to call this dude that has facial hair a woman, and they're tired of it.
They are, I think, they're going to be the generation that changes things.
So um, but yeah man it's it's, it's absolutely an agenda.
It's been an agenda for a long time.
Um it's, it's in their holy scriptures man, like it says, like to use us as slaves.
Literally, it says that.
And so, like you know, they want our money, they want us to be tax cattle, they want that money to go to Israel, they want us to fight all their proxy wars.
They really would like us to go to war with Iran.
Guaranteed, they want us to go to war with Iran because Iran is a big funder of some of these other groups in the Middle East that don't like Israel.
Um that's, it's exactly.
It's exactly what it is, and it's time to be brave.
It's time for anybody who sees what's going on to speak up and say what they have to say, because they're coming for me.
I know they're coming for me.
They're coming for Elijah, they're coming for anybody who speaks about these things.
They're coming for us and they're gonna, they're gonna work.
Jonathan Greenblatt's an absolute piece of and i'll say it proudly to his face right now, but there's no way he's that he's not coming from people like me and people like Clint and Top Lobster and you know I mean they're coming for all of us.
It's gonna happen.
So like, more people need to speak up, more people need to get awake, more people need to start talking about these things.
Well, 100 and I want to uh continue to talk about this.
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Uh, two and a half minute break.
We'll see you in two and a half minutes.
Don't go anywhere, because we're talking about Jonathan Greenblatt, the ADL, the people in control, and we're going to get into the discussion between the FCC commissioner and uh and Tucker Carlson.
By the way guys, this is a great time to come back to America because uh, you know, I just really feel like it's never been more accessible to just kind of connect.
Uh, due to, due to the open source nature of the internet right now, the censorship's never been higher.
Um, this show's never been harder to finance because of just every avenue we create gets shut down or something happens and or we get censored.
But i'm really kind of excited the direction of the show, where it's going, where it's going to be going, and even today, when I was like I know this is to be like a tough topic to hit on because like, i'm just a bill on Capitol Hill, you know it's not.
It's not the funnest thing to talk about, uh.
But I know that we got a lot of good discussion points and um, and we got to get back.
We got to get back to this and i'm not going anywhere.
I don't quit.
A lot of people quit when the going gets tough or it's hard to produce in Australia, so they just won't produce.
But no, I love you guys.
You guys keep it going.
You guys are the best freaking group of SOB, slightly offensive backers.
I freaking love you guys.
You get here every night.
I see your names.
I know you.
You keep the energy going and we do it because we care.
So anyway, I'll see you in two and a half minutes over on rumble.com slash slightly offensive and on censored and on locals.
