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So that's actually there's no free speech in this country.
That's kind of the irony.
They just passed a law against right-wing ethno-nationalism and using the N-word and pejoratives on a broadcast will literally get you 12 months in prison.
I'm not joking.
So I have to be careful until I leave in a few months.
But John, how are you doing, man?
It's so good to see you.
You're looking fit.
You're looking good.
You've always wearing a gay as shit sweater or something.
And like, the reason why I want to start out with this, even though we're talking about the red pill, it's Australia Day.
We are a daily show.
We have to keep it together.
And I was reflecting because people don't want to celebrate the accomplishments of white people.
They don't want to believe that white people could do anything good for society.
And I saw this picture that came up.
I wished everyone a happy Australia Day.
And people that don't understand why it's important is because in every Western country, in every civilized nation, every Christian nation, we have the same attack, the attack on men, the attack on whiteness, the attack on Christianity, the attack on family, which involves the attack on heterosexuality.
But I saw this picture that came up.
And if you can go, let me go ahead and present this here to you guys.
It reminded people who are mad at white people.
This is what life was like.
They said, why don't we get the colonizers out?
Why don't we kick everybody out of this country that is white?
And I was reminded of what life could look like under black power.
Up left, you have Ethiopia as if blacks never got colonized, looking great, looking like a fucking ass wipe or whatever you want to call that.
At the bottom, we have Haiti, a great place to traffic young children for human sacrifice and also a place where they killed all the whites and ran them out.
In the upper right, we have Liberia coming in at number three for most unlivable and unhospitable places to raise a family as if we freed slaves and gave them their own country.
And then, of course, in fourth place, Zimbabwe, what if blacks seized all the property from whites?
What would it look like?
It looks like famine and starvation.
So, John, I mean, I'm just happy to have you and Anna on today.
And I kind of want to get your opinion.
I mean, what do you think about that?
The fact that today is supposed to be the day to celebrate the British colonies, to celebrate the United States was a British colony.
And the people of this country said, how about we live in a world without white people?
That's what we went, John.
Is that what you guys want as a representative of all things black?
I'm happy to have a roof over my head because of white people.
I mean, it's incredible.
You look at the civilization as a whole and just the vast majority of civilization on this earth is actually not white people.
But on the flip side, the vast majority of civilized places where you see things that inspire awe in people, where you see buildings, where you see architecture, where you see art, where you see science, where you see technology, where you see mathematics, where you see everything that the human race has to be proud of, it is because of one very small group of people that happens to be white people.
And so without sounding like Tim Scott, we have to be thankful of what white people have provided this earth.
I don't think it's productive for anyone, for any race, to sit there and talk about how white people have destroyed civilization or how we could have built this if the white people hadn't come.
You know, you see all those videos of what Africa could have looked like.
It looks like Wakanda, what Africa could have looked like had only they been left alone to their own devices.
That's not what it would have looked like.
It would have been mud huts.
It would have been dirt.
They would have been eating out of the ground with their, what do they call it? The rice that they eat.
They mush it together.
They eat it with their hands.
They eat with the animals.
And that's just the reality.
They've had hundreds of years to prove that they could build Wakanda and they haven't.
Whatever you guys are doing up there, we've had enough.
You guys have made a mess.
They come in and then what happens?
They complain about gentrification.
What is gentrification?
It's the place becoming nice.
Every time white people come in and make a place look a little clean up the place, every time they come in to tidy up the place, we have to hear about, oh, they're gentrifying.
Being all the white boys, Castizer Dream over there for simply coming out and calling a man a faggot.
I know that was shocking to you about how much people are wanting to see a backbone.
But as somebody who also is a woman of some color, we have a man of color, a woman of some color on the show, and me as a man of pink color.
I kind of want to get your opinion on that.
That's, well, you know what?
And I'm proud of that.
It's like people always say, that's like, oh, you're so white.
You're like, thank you.
Anyway, Anna Perez, we're so happy to have you back on the show.
But, you know, as today, as we're getting into this, you know, all these discussions, even the internet that we're currently on, is the result of white people, of men, of this development, this progress of society.
And today in the Western world, the discussion is whether or not that was bad or good.
So I don't know what your opinion has been on white people.
I don't know what you think, but do you back up the claims that white people have been a force for evil or what are you feeling?
Because at this point, I have to say, I have to say, you've surprised me and shocked a lot of people with how much you haven't given into the side of the Hispanic victimhood politics.
You've given a huge fuck you to everybody and just done your own thing.
Well, I appreciate the credit, but to be fair, I'm mostly Spanish, Portuguese, and French.
This is a spray tan that you're looking at here.
However, on that note, you're 100% right about the fact that obviously they claim victimhood all the time.
And the way that the argument is framed is such that white Christians are the only people in world history that have ever been the oppressors, and that people of color are always the ones who have been oppressed.
And that's just factually untrue.
Because if you look at the grand scheme of things, every single ethnic group, every single race, every single religious group has at one point in time been the oppressed or the oppressor.
In fact, white Christians have also been the ones who were oppressed.
They have been slaves before in world history.
But the reason they're able to manipulate the narrative is because they only give you a slice of the picture.
They tell you about American history and they talk about the context of slavery here in the West.
And obviously in the Western world, we did have slavery for a certain number of years, but that was not a unique concept to America.
Slavery is not an inherently anti-black concept.
That is a concept that has existed for many, many years around the world.
And the other thing that's really frustrating about this whole narrative that white people are so bad, so evil.
Well, we didn't like just take over America.
Okay.
It's not like people came here, white people came to America and decided that they were just going to steal everything.
That's not exactly how it works.
You kind of have to fight people for things.
And as far as the fight for America went, white Europeans fought Native Americans for hundreds of years to get this land.
It's not like they stole it.
It's not like America was like a giant CBS and it was San Francisco and they just were like looting things off the shelves.
Like, no, they had to fight for it.
So everything that people have been taught about world history, about American history and how whites are evil is such a small, small piece of the entire puzzle that is world history.
And that's been such, you know, that's been such a catalyst for this hatred towards white people.
So it's all false, obviously.
White people are awesome.
They did a lot of great things.
They industrialized this country.
They made this country better.
They saved us from, they saved natives from living in teepees forever.
Okay.
I'm not saying that they did everything right all the time.
No, no ethnic or racial group has done that.
But the fact of the matter is, they're certainly not these evil oppressors, obviously.
Okay, yeah, me literally, literally in a country where I can go to jail for like five years for saying the N-word, needing to get out immediately before I go to prison.
Yeah, I'm aware of what's called being buck broken, but I do have to ask you this.
I want to get your guys' opinion on this.
Speaking of the racial things, you know, I don't know if people saw this, but Jason Whitlock, okay, Jason Whitlock, he is a host at Blaze, and he had E. Michael Jones on his show, a very famous and astute author.
And it's pretty interesting to me because he had him on and they spoke about how Jews are controlling America.
And he came out and he actually made an apology.
He actually apologized for it and came out and said that he was he was wrong about it.
So I want to get your opinion on that, John.
You know, in these moments when we're talking about these things with Whitlock, what do you think about Whitlock having to like remove and apologize his interview with E. Michael Jones?
I didn't get your thoughts because you know all these people really well.
I've actually never met Jason Whitlock and he seems like a very nice guy.
I saw that clip and I actually did.
I think I tweeted about it and I just tweeted.
Oh, yes, Massa.
I'm sorry, Massa.
Sorry, Massa, because the apology was so, it was so clear.
And when the original clip came out, he was with, I think, Shamika Michelle and obviously his guest, E. Michael Jones.
And he was totally there, you know, not only was E. Michael Jones going off on everything that the Jews have done to the black community, going through the history from the Harlem Renaissance to just black culture in general and talking about basically Jewish domination and talking about the slave trade and their role in that.
But Jason Whitlock and Shamika Michelle were on camera agreeing with it, saying, I never thought, I never thought about it that way.
That's a great point.
Wow, this is fascinating.
I'm so glad you said that.
And then Jason Whitlock went and he tweeted about it and he summarized basically saying, it's not the whites we should be mad at.
We should be mad at the Jewish people because they're the ones who have, who have put us where we are.
They're the ones who have caused all of this pain and hardship for our people.
And take a listen to this clip.
He shared the E. Michael Jones clip.
And I saw that and I said, all right, am I going to have to make a few phone calls?
Cause I know if I had tweeted that at the Blaze at the time, if you had said that, there would have been a lot of problems.
That's all I'll say about that.
And then lo and behold, two, maybe two, three days later, groveling apology from this guy.
Just, I'm sorry.
I had no idea who he was.
I'm so sorry.
Please let me back in the house, Massa.
I didn't know.
I had no idea.
I'm begging you, help me.
And I don't know who made him make that apology, but I know that wasn't an apology because he realized he was wrong.
He said he was doing, he did research and didn't know who E. Michael Jones was.
Yeah, okay.
I think that we all know what happened.
I don't know exactly who he got the call from, but I think we're all aware he got the call.
And that's just what happens.
I said, and if he didn't get the call, I would have been mad.
I would have been like, hey, wait a second.
Hey, wait a second.
What happened here?
Why are they all of a sudden allowed to go on blaze air and say this?
But I think it's good in the sense that you see a lot of people.
It's being talked about in the mainstream.
I think it's an important subject that needs to be talked about in the mainstream.
And I think it's a step in the right direction.
Of course, though, he did have to come out and kiss the ring and get on his knees and beg, which is exactly what he did.
And that's still a little bit pathetic in my opinion, but I understand.
And Anna, I'm going to go to you in a second, but I want to watch the clip because a few people in the chat are saying they don't remember the clip or they didn't see it with him on there because, you know, you guys are both like myself where you say a lot of things and they're not wrong and nobody says you're lying, but they say that you shouldn't have said it or that you shouldn't have spoken to that person or you shouldn't have said it the way you did.
But they're never able to convince at least myself that what I'm doing is incorrect, is harmful.
There's anything negative about it.
It's just that it doesn't, you know, please their masters.
And I was actually really respectful of Jason.
I, you know, I noticed that Jason, like a lot of people had unfollowed me around after October 7th.
A lot of people had unfollowed me for being correct about Israel knowing about the attack, about being aware that the attack was going to happen, letting it happen and killing a lot of their own people, remembering that.
Also, that number of 1,400 deaths, a huge portion of that are military deaths.
They continue to not tell you that those hostages that they keep showing videos of are IDF soldiers from outposts.
You know, conflict is horrible.
War is not something we enjoy no matter who's involved, but it's a complete fabrication.
Here was their interaction that they apologized for.
And then when the video's up, Anna, we'll go straight to you and your opinion about apologizing and recanting.
Again, for something you didn't even say.
You didn't even say.
You had a guest that said it, and you had to apologize.
Drugs are outside of you, but lust is inside of you.
And you identify with your lust.
You say, that's me.
Look at the homosexuals.
That's their identity.
Their identity is their vice.
It's like me walking down the street and saying, yeah, I'm a drug addict.
And I'm proud.
I'm a proud drug addict.
I'm a proud drunk.
I throw up on my shoes every other night and I'm proud of it.
Well, that's exactly what the homosexuals have identified with their vices and they are being mobilized now as the shock troops to get everyone else under control.
That's what's going on.
The government, this is the most sophisticated and insidious form of tyranny in human history.
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Dr. Jones, this is Anthony Walker.
I'm a minister here in Tennessee.
I hear what you're saying about Samson and how this sin, this lust of his, caused him to go blind.
I look at that in contrast.
Jesus tells us one of the ways to deal with that.
You know, he said, if your sin causes you, if your eye causes you to sin, pluck it out.
How do you help men?
Or what is your advice to men who have struggled in this area, who have been compromised in this area?
Now, what's crazy here is he goes on to say, and there's more of this.
The interview, there's two different parts of this.
He goes on to tell him that, you know, part of who's controlling this and who's behind it are Jews, which is his, you know, he's correct on everything he was saying.
He's talking about over, you know, several hundred Jewish people that are in control.
And his message was a pro-faith, pro-family message.
But apparently, whoever is pulling the levers there didn't like who he ended up blaming for causing this.
Anna, you've faced a lot of this yourself, a lot of fallout, a lot of issues.
I mean, what do you think about somebody, you know, with that much influence having the balls, first of all, to have someone like that on, have these discussions, knowing that it could bring blowback, but then when the blowback comes, just apologizing and then giving up the ground that he gained.
Yeah, well, when I was listening to that, because I hadn't really heard the clip either, I was thinking to myself, what about this is controversial?
Like everything he said from a Christian perspective was completely on point.
It's an important conversation to have.
Pornography is incredibly damaging to young men.
And I mean, these are important conversations and there's nothing factually wrong about it.
When you said that they started talking about Jews controlling it and, you know, noticing, picking up on those patterns, if you will, then I started to think, okay, that's why they have a problem with it.
That's when that's when they got mad at him for it.
But look, as far as the apology goes, this is why the right doesn't win.
This is why conservatives don't win because we're so cucked.
They tell us to jump and we say how high.
And not only do we say how high, but we say, we'll do anything you want for it.
Please just let me have this job.
If there's a company you're working for that has a problem with you speaking the truth, then leave.
Have a backbone.
Grow a pair.
Start your own thing.
And that's what I did.
Anytime a company had a problem with the things I was saying, I walked away from it.
And I don't understand why more people don't start doing that because you look at the success of people who have done it and it's pretty incredible.
You'd be surprised, not you personally, but I think people would be surprised how much hunger there is for the truth.
Because even to this day, it's a very saturated market.
There's still people who we still need people who are going to be pushing the Overton window and by kowtowing to whatever company you're working for, that's not going to be helpful at all.
Just get out of the way.
Don't work in this industry if you're not prepared to put it all out there and put it all on the line.
I know that it's titled The Red Pill, and we're going to get to it.
But the reason why I want to talk about this first and why we're kind of going into this direction is because, you know, it makes me laugh a lot of times the way that things are presented to the public, right?
Every show is uncensored or the show is called Fearless, right?
It's called Fearless.
And I respect Jason Whitlock, but it's like, well, really, really, realistically speaking, there are mechanisms of control.
Like I said, if you say the N-word at the hard R right now on camera, I do have a few MPs and stuff that are trying to, you know, fuck with me here.
And trust me, they make specials about me on the news here.
I don't know what's going on, but they've really targeted me.
There's been four articles written this week.
They're watching every episode.
They're trying to get me out of the country.
And that's understandable.
Government controls, understandable.
But a lot of the control is an invisible control that we put on ourselves, right?
You can go to prison.
And the reason why I'm not a citizen, so I just need to leave.
So that's why I'm getting out of the country.
I just need to go back to my homeland.
And, you know, my fight is not here for that.
But when it comes to fearless and Whitlock, it's like, I don't know who put in, who put the control mechanism.
Watch the rest of this clip that I was playing here and tell me where the lie is.
We'll go straight to John afterwards and what he thinks about this.
If you're just joining the live stream, just know I'm wearing Australia gear because it's Australia Day.
It's our Independence Day.
And yes, just like the 4th of July, it's been officially canceled.
And we're supposed to celebrate Moonjabungu Week or whatever, people who blew into hollow sticks and drank themselves to death.
Fuck that.
Not my cup of tea.
Let's go ahead and listen to the rest of this interview and we'll go straight to John on his opinion on recanting after allowing this to air.
First of all, Joe Biden is not in charge of the government.
It's called Biden's menu.
You can look this up too.
There are 457 Jews who are running the Biden administration.
They're the people who are in charge.
Okay.
So there's no point in talking about Joe Biden.
We have to be able to identify these people and we have to call them out and hold them responsible for it.
I'm going to take this, especially if you're black, because the blacks have suffered more in this regard than any other group in this country.
And I'm talking about the beginning of this with the Harlem Renaissance, which I've written about in detail.
The Jews took over the blacks early on.
They created an institution called the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People.
Okay.
Now, there was a, this was created for one reason, and that was to destroy Marcus Garvey, who was a great black nationalist from Jamaica in New York at this time.
And they got this guy, W.E.B. Du Bois or Du Bois, or however you want to pronounce it, Harvard guy, and he was the front man.
So that when Marcus Garvey went to NAACP headquarters, he walked in and he said afterwards, I didn't see one black man there.
It was all Jews.
The Jews had taken control of the black population.
They destroyed black nationalism under Marcus Garvey.
And then they created this plantation for black people known as sexual liberation.
All right, John, I mean, I don't know if you think he's wrong at any point here, but I mean, apologizing for this seems crazy because to me, unironically, this seems like a pro-black message.
And it's funny that it gets pulled down.
We can't even be pro-Black on the race baiting right wing if it somehow threatens the tribe.
Yeah, well, you know, blacks are pretty high on the DEI totem pole, but Jews are still right at the top.
And I think that was evidenced by when they expelled Claudine Gay from Harvard.
I think it showed, yeah, black women, and I think she is she, I don't know if she's actually LGBTQ, but black lesbian looking women, they've got a lot of power, but it's nothing compared to the kind of power that Jews have.
And I think that really just kind of displayed that for everyone to see, the fact that a black, a strong black LGBTQ woman could be expelled from her position because she wasn't, and not because she wasn't, she was anti-Jewish, because she didn't say, I'm going to expel these students from Harvard for protesting Israel's atrocities in Gaza.
And because she wasn't critical enough of Palestine and because she wasn't defensive enough of the Jews, she was kicked out.
I think that displays that perfectly.
And I think here they're willing to, you know, they've got their token black anchor and they've got, you know, a panel of all black people.
And they went too far because the Jews come in and they say, hey, look, you know, you can't say this about us.
And you're going to either have to apologize or, and what usually happens is that there's just a pressure campaign.
The ADL gets involved.
I already saw a tweet from Jared Holt saying, this is how these ideas get mainstream.
This is how this happens.
This kind of unacceptable anti-Semitism gets put on the air and it gets shot straight into the mainstream.
So what the network was, I assume, I don't know, but what I'm assuming the network would be facing is a huge pressure campaign.
And then, you know, next thing you know, Greenblatt's going to get involved.
And gosh forbid, Ben Shapiro is going to get involved.
And all of the usual players who come in and attack.
And this is the kind of heat that most networks, most organizations, most institutions do not want.
Because what is the worst thing that you can be called?
It is an anti-Semite.
You do not want that label because what does an anti-Semite mean?
The anti-Semite means you're going to be, you're getting compared to Nazis, you're Adolf Hitler.
And so all of these conservative organizations.
And I'm not singling out the blaze because it happens everywhere.
Turning point would have done the same thing.
Daily Wire would have done the same thing.
Fox News, forget about it.
And so it's just the way the structure is.
And I don't really know what the solution is aside from what Anna posited earlier, which is just you kind of have to get off the plantation.
And now that you've seen the full clips and you've seen what he said and realized that this required like removal of speech, right?
This is removal.
It required public apologies.
I mean, I feel like people are getting sick of this, right?
just seeing people traveling to Israel to, you know, while our border is literally under attack.
And it's like, you know, I'm not mad at people liking Israel because I'm not mad at people having different opinions than me.
I don't, I don't care.
Like, I don't care.
And that's my point is even if, even if Whitlock just said, look, we share a different opinion.
This guy just doesn't think the way I think or says, hey, his views and opinions are not shared by the network.
Great.
But this idea of having to like distance yourself, I think people are waking up to this.
I don't think people have a stomach for the bullshit anymore of like, look, either you're real or you're not, and you're being honest about the topics.
And it's, you know, like I said, people will shit on people for being honest about who controls the world, about pro-family, pro-Christian messages.
But if you're a gay, black conservative, then they'll have you speak in front of young, impressionable kids about anal sex.
And that's totally okay.
You know, they'll take, you know, Patriot Front are all feds.
They're all feds.
This is the worst group ever.
Why?
Because they have a pro-white, pro-God, pro-family message.
They're bad.
Maybe they are feds.
I don't know.
You don't have evidence for it.
But at the same time, is their message really that bad?
And they're like, yeah, it's horrible because Rob Smith told me that it's bad.
And it's like, that's your alternative.
Look, if you just didn't want retards running around and you think that group is retarded, then just say it.
But the fact that we're such boomer tier shit fucking Fed posters ourselves running around fed jacketing ourselves, pretending like we have a movement, when in reality, it's like we're getting raped in every single area possible.
Our kids are literally being raped by fucking gay pedophiles in their schools.
And what do we do about it?
We do nothing but delete our own videos, self-censor and defeat ourselves.
We're like Japanese that honor kill ourselves on our own samurai swords, but we never even joined the battle to begin with.
Yeah, well, I think that I think that John was on to something when he said that, you know, he brought up the pyramid, the hierarchy, if you will, of privilege.
And when it comes to blacks versus Jews, it's quite interesting.
Because Jews have more power, people are going to kowtow to them more than they will to the blacks.
And we've seen that time and time again.
That's kind of just a fact of the matter.
And when you look at conservative companies, they're the ones that are the worst with this because we're not expecting the left to do anything about this, right?
But it is quite disappointing when you see the right, of course, prop up people like Rob Smith, prop up people who are obvious, obviously not conservative in any capacity, don't live a conservative lifestyle in any capacity.
I will say it's becoming clearer and clearer who the real conservatives are.
And I think people are starting to pick up on what's really going on here.
And I think that divide is happening more than ever.
I think that event calendar gate really helped sort of differentiate between the two factions of the movement, if you will, which the one part isn't even conservative at all.
So they shouldn't even be calling themselves or adhering to the conservative movement or labeling themselves as such.
But it is disappointing when you see people like, you know, Elise Stefanik, for example, during that whole hearing where they were trying to get rid of Dr. Gay from the president of Harvard because she was so anti-Semitic, how they're suddenly not pro-free speech when it has to do with Israel or Jews, but everybody else they would have had a problem with.
Like if they were students protesting that had something to do with black people, they'd be like, well, that's ridiculous.
People had free speech.
Oh, yeah, free speech until it has to do with Israel or Jews.
Then conservatives tend to waver on that front.
And that's disappointing to watch, but that's where we fail.
You have to sort of speak truth to power.
That power being Israel, that power being right now, what we're witnessing with our own two eyes, you know, Ben Shapiro going to Auschwitz with Elon Musk.
Like, could the picture not be clearer what's going on here?
I mean, if you're denying that that's the fact, that that's a fact, then I don't know where you've been for the past few years.
But the reality is they're going to remain beholden to a certain class of people.
And that class is always going to be the people that are the most powerful.
And quite frankly, that is not black people right now, even though they do enjoy some of the privileges that we offer them because they are black.
The hierarchy really does matter here.
And sadly, the right, they're not free speech and they're not fighting anything for the most part.
But like I said, silver lining here is I think that it's becoming clearer who the small faction of people who are fighting them are.
And I think that right now people are starting to pick up after October 7th, they're starting to put the pieces together.
And they're like, oh, okay, I see what's going on here.
But remember, ultimately, Christ is in control of the whole world, but we're still the hands and the feet of God.
So, you know, when he says you're the body of Christ, you're the hands and the feet.
There's still people that are involved.
There's names.
And I think that a lot of the right-wing networks get away with making a lot of money, but doing nothing by keeping things in a partisan battle of Republicans and Democrats in like Republicans, Democrats, Democrats, Republicans.
And that's really in the Matrix, right?
That's real Matrix zeitgeist in that you think that's what's going on.
Because in reality, it's like maybe one side is cheating more than the other.
But as Fleckis says, you know, there's somebody else controlling the ball, right?
So you're playing, you're worried about the teens and the cheaters, but the ball itself is being controlled by another force.
And I think that because that affects money and that's the ultimate way they keep the power by deflecting and not talking about that, to me, they're doing damage because it reminds me of like someone being fat instead of just losing weight.
It's like I saw a girl in the UK died from sepsis because she went to go get a stomach sleeve in Turkey to lose weight, which is a gastric bypass.
And she died, right?
And so instead of just going and losing weight and doing what's hard, she tried to take the easier route and she ended up suffering the ultimate consequence, which is death.
I feel like these networks are leading people not only to hell physically, but they're leading our country there faster than we can know it by keeping us distracted when in reality, it's so much deeper.
The fact that we have, you know, New York Zionist influencers telling us that a Hindu man is the key to Republican success because he laughs at 7-Eleven jokes.
Meanwhile, the literal richest man in the world is trying to create an everything app with one-stop shop, buy, sell, and trade, and is bowing down in Auschwitz and talking to Ben Shapiro, who's an evil person, by the way.
It's disingenuous, John.
And it's like, I'm not talking to anyone in particular because, like you said, they all do it.
But I feel like we're genuinely leading people down the wrong path, but people aren't buying the bullshit anymore.
I don't think their ratings are going up.
I don't think that they're getting new, younger viewers.
I don't think that they're creating creative content that people are consuming.
It's not changing the conversation.
And the influencer class has not has lost their influence.
Yeah, I mean, I think you're right in that the devil is orchestrating all of it.
It really comes down to money when you look at it, because essentially, what do these organizations want to do?
Well, they want to be profitable.
They want to make money.
And I can't necessarily blame them for that.
But at this point in time, you cannot make money while calling out the enemy on earth.
And Elon's realizing that with his everything app.
He's not going to get advertisers if he has people on the platform exposing Israel and exposing Jewish power.
He just can't make money.
He can't attract advertisers.
And so he came into this thing saying, I'm going to be ultimate free speech app.
I'm going to, anything that's not unlawful, I'm going to allow on this platform.
Fast forward six months and he's groveling with Ben Shapiro in front of the concentration camps at Auschwitz.
And so it's like, okay, so what happened to the whole free speech thing?
All right, the most notorious anti-Semites are not allowed on the platform.
And you realize that at the end of the day, he has recognized that he's not going to make money.
if he allows this kind of speech because the ADL is not going to let him make money.
And the extension of that, the political class is not going to let him make money.
It doesn't matter if they have to enact legislation.
If they have to go Ron DeSantis mode and fly to Israel and sign legislation that says if you criticize the great Jewish people, you will face consequences.
You will face a fine.
You will face jail time, whatever it is.
At the very least, the advertisers are going to flock.
And so I don't think it's an ideological battle.
I don't think these people realize that they're dancing with the devil.
I don't think that when they wear the Israeli flag, they are genuinely just pro-Israel to their core.
I think they look at their, they, they look at their bottom line.
They look at their spreadsheets and they say, okay, well, we're not going to be profitable if we allow this.
And that's what it comes down to.
I think everyone is worshiping at the altar of money.
And I think that that's ultimately what drives it.
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All right, we're going to Anna and we're talking about what we were talking about the censorship and these people sort of shutting them down.
And I want to switch over, Anna, into this conversation about the red pill, about this, this shutting down conversation, what the answer to all of this is.
Is the answer just getting more based?
Or is the answer seeking God?
If you can go to my screen here, Brian.
So there is this individual named Chase.
His goes by Sovereign Bra on Twitter, and he is on this podcast called The Whatever, which is, we call it on the show, The Ohio Fresh and Fit.
So it is literally the same thing, except it's just not a bunch of ghetto blacks.
And essentially, there is a debate about what the solution and the answer to all this stuff is.
You go to Blaze or Daily Wire, they'll tell you it's getting more Republicans in office.
You go to Fresh and Fit, and they'll tell you it's, you know, taking advantage of the moment.
It's like if the economy's down, buy stocks when they're low type of idea.
The bitches are feminists and they're sluts and they're whores.
So take advantage.
Fuck as many of them as you can and control and have a harem.
Now, Chase is saying that that's not the case.
That's not what we should do.
We should be encouraging people to follow God and to not be promiscuous and to try to, you know, become better men and not create more whores.
And this is a huge debate going on today.
And this is really important.
He said here before I watch the video, I want to read his tweet.
He talked about red pill influencers saying women with high body counts are bad.
Also, red pill influencers, go get laid as much as possible.
Sleep around with a bunch of women, spin plates and avoid marriage because it's a scam.
It's degenerate, hypocritical, and heavily contributes to brokenness of our world.
Take the Christ pill instead.
First Thessalonians 4, 3 through 8.
Let's go ahead and let's watch this clip and we're going to jump off of this to Anna.
And she's going to try to understand of what the core definitions are, Anna, of like the red pill and the Christ pill and where you see them differ on both their prescription for men and for women.
We're talking about the red pill versus the God pill.
Tell me a little bit about your understanding of the red pill and the God pill before we even discuss the clip and what you think personally is more of a clear direction on what we should be teaching to young men and to women.
Yeah, well, right off the bat, Chase is absolutely correct on this matter.
I was actually watching the whole interaction on Twitter between him and Myron, and I was retweeting him.
And I agree with him completely on this.
And people who aren't Christian won't really understand the depth of this.
They won't understand really what it means to be Christian and the power of the Holy Spirit unless they're Christian themselves.
But what Sovereign Bra or Chase is essentially saying here is that obviously two things.
One, the Holy Spirit does change you.
And regardless of whether you're a man or a woman, you should seek Christ.
You should find God.
You should change your life regardless of where you're coming from.
And instead of just kind of like sitting back on our laurels and just accepting things the way they are, we should be finding Christ and changing our ways if you are leading a degenerate lifestyle.
And as far as it coming to promiscuity and sleeping around, I like the fact that he points out that obviously the Bible says for both genders that that is a sin.
And so therefore, the idea behind the red pill movement is to your point, Elijah, and you, I think, pointed it out pretty well, which is that they just accept it and they say, well, women are like this.
Women are hoes right now.
So just take advantage of it.
Just sleep with as many as possible, but we're not going to actually change anything.
And I have a couple problems with that.
Mainly the fact that that's not Christian messaging.
But I also have a problem with it because they're not helping anything.
All you're doing is adding to the problem when you say that.
And again, I don't have a personal problem with, you know, the person he was arguing with, Myron.
I'm sure he's a nice guy, whatever.
don't know him, but he's wrong about the fact that that's going to solve anything.
It's not.
Chase is right.
Leading people to the Bible, leading people to the Lord is what is going to change things.
And I know that that's a hard concept for people to understand who aren't Christian, but it does work.
The power of the Holy Spirit is there, but we can't sit back and just say, well, you know, just don't fix a thing because there's no way God can change anything.
No, God has the power to change.
everything.
God is the Trump card here.
God is always the Trump card.
And that is the only way we're really going to save anything.
We are past the point of, you know, man having any sort of influence, I think, any enough of an influence, I should say, that could change the cultural direction that we are headed in.
And so as far as Christ pill versus red pill goes, the red pill doesn't really do anything.
It just says the manosphere movement type of thing.
And they just say, well, you know, and I'm not speaking to all of them.
Like I have friends that are part of that movement and they say some good things that I do agree with.
But the solution, once again, is where the Christ pill and the manosphere slash red pill movement differ.
The solution for the Christ-pilled people is always, you know, you can redeem yourself through Christ in Christ alone.
You can repent.
And also the messaging isn't, hey, men, go ahead and, you know, use women for your own sexual satisfaction.
Rather, the messaging is, no, repent for your own way of living.
And that's how we're going to make society better.
Whereas the red pill movement is like, well, you know, we're just going to sit here and keep sleeping with them.
And John, you know, I think I want to go to your opinion on that too, before we even discuss the full debate of what's happening.
I think those are very two different prescriptions for life, right?
You have the red pill and you have the God pill.
And it doesn't mean that the red pill doesn't pertain ideas of God and there aren't godly red pillars.
And I don't want to be reductionist in this.
Like there are people who really hold the red pill, who have a good faith in God, have reasoning, but there are people who say that that's contradictory.
You should be God first and then introduce some of the red pill that matches up with scripture.
But then again, a lot of people are not Christian.
And that brings up a greater debate of like, is the right-wing movement conservative, first of all?
And is conservatism even godly, right?
Is it Christian conservatism or secular conservatism?
So when we're introduced to this kind of stuff, I'd love kind of bouncing off of what Anna said.
Yeah, what do you think the red pill is and the God pill?
What do you think is more right?
And realistically, I want your real answer.
I don't fuck you, do not play on the audience.
Do not bullshit yourself or anybody.
I know you're not someone who would do that, but it's like, you know, are we being too niche in this?
Is there a need for both is what I'm saying?
Because if you're more maybe secular and godless, you might be going for more of the red pill.
And if you're more looking for God, you might be more of the God pill.
Or should we be pushing one or the other?
I kind of want to hear where you're coming from because you've been around, you've seen it, and you know a lot of these people involved personally.
So the option of taking the red pill, but leaving God out of it, that doesn't work for me.
I don't think that works for anyone.
And I don't think that's going to lead anywhere good.
And my problem with the red, the red pill movement was always, it was sort of this, like Anna said, they have a lot of good ideas.
They're waking a lot of people up.
They get great numbers.
They have a lot of influence.
They're funny.
You know, they quote unquote, they notice, if you want to use that term, right?
You know, they are pro-Trump.
They do not hold women on a pedestal.
They're anti-feminist.
But my problem with it was always sort of this, like, this lack of God.
And it was almost kind of this like negroification of conservatism, because on the one hand, you have them in many ways that I enjoy talking smack about women and not kind of kowtowing to them.
Like you see a turning point, but then you realize that's all it's about for them.
And then you hear Myron talking.
I was actually rather surprised when I saw Myron's message about how you should just go and sleep with as many women as you can.
That is, it doesn't matter how much you want to joke about it or look, that is a sin.
It is not just a sin.
It is a grave sin.
It is a mortal sin.
Sex before marriage is any way, I don't care which denomination you come from.
I'm pretty sure all denominations look at it that way.
And unless you've fallen from Christ, that's how you're going to view it.
And so I don't think there's really a defense of Myron's point of view, at least from a Christian perspective.
And the Christian perspective is absolutely one that I think is essential for any movement.
And you look at history, any movement that removes God from the picture, as appealing as it might be, and it often is, it goes in the wrong direction.
It goes awry.
It goes askew.
I mean, you saw what happened to capitalism.
And I think it originally when the United States was conceived and Adam Smith had his theory of moral sentiments, which was basically the antidote saying we've got to be religious people.
None of this free market stuff works.
None of the stuff that I wrote about in Wealth of Nations is going to work if we are not a moral people and not to like Bible thump and be this founding person with a tri-cornered hat, but you need the religious element.
And you've seen what capitalism has turned into without Christianity.
You see, even I would argue that the movements, the nationalist movements in the 30s and 40s, those went awry when you started moving Christian and God and Christ from the picture.
And so I truly believe that you cannot have a truly successful and a truly honorable and godly and good movement without God.
And so I saw this argument happening on X.
And I, you know, of course, these guys decide to have this argument.
Like, I'm like, we've got a primary, we've got Jews in tunnels, and we've got a country that is in decline.
We're being invaded.
And these guys are like, well, let's talk about women.
And so I'm like, maybe they just need to take the incel pill.
Like, they're just talking about all like, they're just filling the timeline up, going back and forth about how we can reform women.
And so I just, I'm like, I'm not getting involved in this conversation.
For a political movement, I think that this obsession with women is also not helpful.
I think talking about how we can reform women, I mean, we're set out here to be political leaders.
We're set out here to talk about the big issues to save the country.
And these guys are, you know, I like both of them, but these guys are going back and forth about what we need to do for women.
Put women aside for a second.
And it's such a problem that I've always had with any movement.
It diverts into this obsession with women.
And it's always about the women.
And it's what, you know, how should we treat women and should we give them the say?
And it's like, enough, we don't need women.
And I said on Twitter, I said, the only women I follow and pay attention to are one Anna Perez, Laura Loomer.
There's probably, I could fill the hand with a few others.
But this obsession, this woman, I don't, with women, I don't think it's healthy.
I don't think it's productive.
I don't think that it's good for men to be this obsessed with like with the other sex.
I think that if you're starting a family, obviously that's a whole other story.
But as leaders, as thought leaders or political leaders, or as people that are trying to save the country, I think that focusing on pussy and trying to fuck women and body counts and using that as a status symbol is completely unproductive.
Well, and here's what Myron had to say, because to be fair, first of all, a shout out again to Australians if you're joining the stream.
It's Australia Day Today.
And they said that if you wear Australia flagged gear, that you are a racist.
So I saw that on the ABC News that they were saying that you will notice people that wear Australia flag gear are racist.
So if you want to know why I went and bought all this stuff, I just wanted to communicate to you guys where I stand on a lot of issues.
And honestly, everyone, I should have told everyone that today was the day that they say, if you're wearing Australia gear, you're racist because they all probably would have worn it too.
That's got to be a, we got to figure this out.
And, you know, because people are crawling out of tunnels, like John said.
And so we're in a very serious predicament.
Now, I have John Miller and Anna Perez on today, and Myron Gaines was responding about this particularly.
We're going to go to Anna here.
Myron Gaines said this.
This is pretty bold, Steve.
This is the red pill, right?
Jesus can't save these hoes, and neither can you.
You trad cons need to realize that feminism is here to stay and isn't going anywhere.
Adapt to the new normal or keep getting married by the church and destroyed by the state.
And Anna, like so that we're so that we're being honest here about ourselves, Myron has honest criticisms of the trad cons.
Like, first of all, almost every tradcon conservative person is fake.
Like people always like, we need more trad cons on whatever podcast.
No, we need less women on the internet.
Okay.
How about that?
So that's what we need.
And then people go, oh, well, look, if you're going on the internet and saying you're a trad con, that's so gay.
It's like conservative pronouns.
I'm not joking.
It's like, look, the truth is, if you're on the internet, you've probably fucked up in your life a few times.
And that's why you're here.
It's like the bar for people who have overactive minds and have a difficulty maintaining friendships.
And so they vent out in the public and they come here and then they learn from their trauma and their disobedience to God and they try to make sense of the world.
So we're not promoting people to work this job.
We're not promoting people to be here.
It's not a good example.
But we are making sense of it.
We are trying to understand it.
And I think what he's saying here is like, dude, you trad conservatives have made the same mistakes.
Now you're saying God covers your sins, but you guys have similar rates of divorce, et cetera.
And I want to caveat this in saying, yeah, because most when you take tradcon away from God and it's like, oh, I'm just conservative and we're a good couple.
What?
All these people get exposed, exposed, exposed, exposed.
Rather than just taking the humble card and saying, I'm a Christian, I have made mistakes.
I still make mistakes and God has saved me and I'm learning how to walk with him in obedience, which is totally fine.
I'd rather have you just call me a son of God or a child of God, not a tradcon, right?
I don't want your political pronouns.
I want Jesus Christ to be my identity.
He's pointing out the people who put on the religious identities and these things oftentimes are just as screwed up or doing the same things.
And he's right.
He's actually correct.
So, you know, with this kind of thing, I mean, do you think maybe he's just getting confused because the TradCon movement really isn't representing Christ well?
It's not people trying to represent Jesus.
And is it that maybe TradCon isn't the way for these people?
And he has a point.
If you're going to take TradCon and do the same shit and ask for forgiveness or just do the same shit and be proud of it, it's probably a clearer conscience to just do whatever the fuck you want.
But maybe what he's missing is rather than either of these options, there's the Jesus pill, the God pill, right?
Which is the idea of accepting God and forgiveness and not worrying about what people call you or label you, but working out your salvation with fear and trembling.
Who's wrong and who's right here?
And does he have honest criticisms of the TradCon movement of being a little bit phony and people trying to compensate by looking good to cover up, you know, maybe some of the shit they've done in their life, which they're not proud of?
I think he's got some genuinely fair observations about this whole tradcon movement, which when you look at it, it's a lot of women who put God first in their social media bios and then they have half-naked pictures on their social media.
So I think people are just tired of seeing that phenomenon from women in the conservative movement.
And, but there are people who genuinely say, hey, I'm first and foremost Christian and, you know, everybody sins.
we're all sinners to some capacity, but we are trying to follow our best in our walk with Christ, right?
So there is a difference.
And I think that like a lot of people, he looks at the surface and he sees what's going on and he sees like, like I said, those women that put God first in their social media bios and they post half naked pictures.
And that can be confusing because that's not the best representation.
That is not a representation at all of what Christianity is because they're clearly not trying at all to actually. follow in the footsteps of Jesus Christ because that's blatantly just going out of your way to essentially show your body for sexual purposes.
And you see this happen all the time.
And this is the real problem with the right.
We need to start having an honest conversation about what it means to be conservative.
And I know that it happened, you know, a while ago and everybody's sort of trying to drop it.
But I actually think that the whole calendar gate discussion was an important one to have.
And it's not about who can be, you know, more trad or more this or like they made it into this whole purity spiral thing.
And that's what they kept talking about.
Like, this is the problem.
This is why you can't tell women to put their clothes on because then it turns into a purity spiral.
And then you're just a judgmental Christian and blah, It's like, no, the point is we need to have a genuine conversation about what it means to be conservative and the fact that you can only really be conservative if you are Christian.
Let's be completely clear about that, at least here in America, because Christianity is the very root of conservatism.
I know people hate that, but it's the truth.
And if your ideas are rooted in, you know, just fiscal, fiscal conservatism, but social liberalism, you're not a conservative.
And again, it has nothing to do with necessarily how you're dressed per se.
It has more to do with the overall concept here.
And so he's observing something that I've observed myself in the conservative movement.
And it has nothing to do with, you know, the way you're dressed or this or that has more to do with just be genuine about who you are and don't label yourself as something that you're not.
And you're right.
Be humble, you know, and make it clear that, you know, this, we do, we should strive our best to be the best we can as Christians.
But ultimately, we're not going to sit here and be like, well, here I am, a TPUSA influencer with half my clothes off, but I'm Christian.
Like now you're just insulting my intelligence.
And I think people are just sick and tired of that.
But ultimately, as far as God being able to save this country, being able to save the culture in this country, absolutely he can.
And Myron's 100% wrong about that, because God is the only one who can save us at this point.
Like I said, and you have to look at it on a macro level.
We are making these changes.
You know, it seems, you know, incremental now, but at some point, we're going to start to, this counterculture movement will become the cultural movement that we are headed in.
And I'm actually really happy to see the way Gen Z has handled this, particularly Gen Z men.
I've said this a lot, but they're really fighting against what the boomer generation has started.
And I agree with John too, this whole obsession over women, it's kind of gay, if I'm being honest.
And I use that facetiously, but it really is weird.
Like stop following in the footsteps of the boomer conservatives that kind of set us up for failure in this way and start following in the path of Jesus Christ and repent.
And then, you know, and then we can change our ways here in this country and God can absolutely save.
And let me, I'm going to go to you, John, here in a moment.
I did want to bring up that tweet that I just had back up, Brian.
If we can bring that on the screen, is what I really see here is a fundamental misunderstanding of what the way forward is.
And I get it, right?
I think people like the best thing I can explain to why I know everyone is gay and retarded and they might not even be gay or have a mental disorder, but they're gay and retarded.
Just like you cannot be a homosexual and be a faggot.
There's a difference, right?
So we need to clarify the terminology here.
If you're a gay retard, you may be straight and have a high IQ, but you're still a faggot gay retard.
So Myron here is discussing.
He's like, hey, Tradcons be like, hey, bro, I know there's a war outside and your opponents have shotguns, but here's the butter knife Jesus gave me.
Telling men that religion and God will protect them from the wrath of modern women is leading them down a path of destruction.
And they're actually correct.
Okay.
And this is where I think people get defensive without understanding.
If you were to take a modern Protestant church and the current way the gospel is presented and the way Christianity is presented in the mainstream in popular culture and by very popular pastors, their criticism of Christianity is not only right, but this is what shows how important your representation of God is.
They're really representing God.
And so if God is who the modern American Protestant church says he is, then God is a butterknife.
And I don't, I'm not being sacrilegious here.
And if you're, if you're small-minded and you don't get what I'm saying, then that's fine.
But I'm saying God is a butterknife.
God's worse than that.
God is a toy, you know, a nerf gun, right?
And that's how God's presented is like this nerf gun who's this fire who tickles you when you're worshiping and singing and worship is singing and we all dance.
And it's this very feminized version of God.
And what people are seeing in the world is if that's who God is, if that's what faith is, then I, then I don't trust that.
Now, what's crazy to me, and I want to bring this up, if you read Proverbs, just Proverbs, right?
Let's go to the middle of the Bible.
There's chapters dedicated to this called the Fresh and Fit BC.
We start calling Proverbs like FNFBC.
It's the BC podcast.
There's entire chapters warning about the wayward woman, the promiscuous woman, the adulterous woman.
Why?
Because almost all the great men in the Bible struggled with sexual sin with women, from Abraham with Hagar and going into his housemaid.
And now we have Arabs.
There's always some result from that.
All the way to David murdering someone's husband and taking her on and having his child die.
Down all the way to even we have like Gomar and different people and Hosea, people marrying prostitutes.
There are several prostitutes in the line of Jesus.
Okay.
So I just bring this up in the fact that this is not a new thing.
Feminism did not make women hoes.
There is not this idea of women being promiscuous and men didn't just randomly start having problems with sexual discretion and sin.
This is a very common thing.
And God knew about this.
He prescribed, he has chapters in one book.
There's several chapters dedicated to warning you, to helping you to being on board.
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But before we go over there to John and Anna, if people are watching on Rumble and they don't switch over, where can they find you and where can they follow you to support you?
Your links are in the description.
We'll go to you first, Anna, how people can support you before we go.
Anyways, if you're watching on Rumble, happy Australia Day to you guys.
I genuinely appreciate it.
We'll be continuing to talk about this topic of the God pill versus the red pill.
We're going to go to John's opinion on this.
But to those of you guys watching at Rumble, again, don't forget to support here at censored.tv.
We have the live stream going.
Shout out to those in the live chat right now, including Tunnel Jew, Daniel Goodwin, and as well as Opie Radio Podcast, and so many more who are there.
