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Jan. 25, 2024 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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elijah schaffer
My favorite thing about the United States is having my body felt up as I go through the airport by the border security who wants to make sure that I don't have cocaine strapped to the bottom of my scrotum.
The only problem is, is while I'm flying United and we survived the door blowing off the side of the airplane and one of the engines catching fire, as I thank my transgender black female-ish pilot for the amazing and exciting flight, I could have just taken the easy route, the safest route possible, which was to come through the southern border, which by far at this point is safer than flying on any American airline, including the company itself.
There's a complete chaos going on in the Mexico-Texas region, where the Biden administration through the Supreme Court has declared war on the states.
I want to declare that one more time.
War on the states.
And Greg Abbott has decided he'll be figuratively standing up to what exactly is going on there.
I'd like to welcome to the studio my guests.
Their both name is Natalie.
So for the sake of this, we will be calling them Natalie and Nat.
But Natalie, the co-host of Steve Bannon's War Room, welcome to Slightly Offensive for the first time.
natalie winters
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
unidentified
I can't believe I've never been on your show, but I'm glad to be changing that today.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I'm very excited to have you here as well.
Natalie has a new clothing line coming out for women.
We'll be talking about that later, but she is a fighter.
And I apologize to you guys for all the bimbos I had on last week.
I told you we'd have a girls night and I failed you.
So this time I brought in respectable ladies who that I know of do not have OnlyFans.
Unless Steve Bannon's been selling pictures of his booty cheeks that I don't know about, I think we're good to go.
unidentified
Definitely.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Well, who knows?
It might get desperate here.
And we can welcome as well Natalie Carey, who will be calling Nat tonight.
She is a street video performer as well as a commentator.
Natalie, welcome to Slightly Offensive.
natalie carrey
Thanks, Elijah.
Happy to be here.
elijah schaffer
Awesome.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
So Brian, if you can go to me full screen for a second, sorry about the delay if there's a couple internet issues today.
I am working on satellite, you know, beaming here in the Gold Coast in Australia.
Welcome back to Nightly Offensive.
My name is Elijah Schaefer.
We've got a crazy story for you guys.
There is a split in the nation.
And no, we're not calling a civil war, but we are calling a soft secession.
And this did happen.
If you can go to my screen here, Brian, I want to play this for you.
Texas has taken control of the border.
They have began arresting illegal immigrants today.
I want to repeat that.
They have begun arresting illegal immigrants today that are violating their order.
And I am a Texas resident and also a business owner.
Let's go ahead, let's watch this.
And we're going to break it down, discuss everything going on at the border, as well as the insanity that's happening in our country.
Plus, the IDF got involved in a protest, actual IDF soldiers at Columbia University.
A really crazy story of chaos in our country.
Let's listen.
unidentified
Hi, good morning, Dana.
Just this morning, as we pulled up, we witnessed about 30 migrants cross a very high Rio Grande onto a shipping container here in Shelby Park lined with razor wire.
And we do have video of that.
So we want to show that to you.
Now, those migrants were actually using clothes and blankets to shield themselves to get through that razor wire.
Texas National Guard and Texas DPS, though, were on the other side.
You can see them apprehending them on the other side to arrest them for criminal trespassing.
They were put into a van, taken to a state processing facility.
Then they will be held there in jail until they stand before a court for their sentence.
Then they will be handed over to ICE after their time served to see if they will be deported or not.
Now, we do want to talk about the Supreme Court decision that came down just a few days ago, giving legal authority to Border Patrol to cut the wire here in Shelby Park.
As of right now, no wire has been cut.
That's because the Texas National Guard still has control of Shelby Park, and Border Patrol is not allowed into the park to cut that wire.
Now, I did talk to officials how the Supreme Court ruling will actually affect how Texas is defending the border.
Take a listen.
We still are going to restrict the access here at Shelby Park.
We're still going to add additional infrastructure along the river.
That's what the National Guard is doing right now.
Currently, they're adding additional barriers to that Constitutional wire, making those areas more reinforced so that we can prevent and discourage any illegal border crossings.
And you're looking at the Rio Grande where the water authority is actually raising the level controls of the Amistad Dam up the river, releasing more water due to heavy recent rain.
Just a reminder for those migrants crossing, they're still making that trek over a dangerous current in that river.
The question remains: if Border Patrol needs to come in, cut the wire, will Texas National Guard?
elijah schaffer
All right, let's jump right into this and talk about this.
All right, Natalie's are on the screen here.
We are talking to Natalie, co-host of the war room, as well as Nat, who will be calling, who is a commentator.
All right, Natalie, from the war room, let's talk about this.
This is insane.
Texas has literally said, hey, a giant fuck you to the Biden regime.
And I mean this authentically and seriously, again, as somebody who has property in Texas, as somebody who has a business in Texas, it's about damn time.
I don't know what your thoughts are on this, but to me, this is a soft, or as I'm calling a cold secession where maybe you haven't formally declared or written down an affidavit or in the court pass an order that we're no longer under control of the union.
But they are saying, look, you can say whatever you want, but sincerely, middle finger to all of you.
And I'm really impressed with Abbott here.
And I want to know what you're thinking as I know you and Bannon in the war room.
You guys have been covering this extensively.
And this is a big development.
natalie winters
Yeah, I mean, this is certainly a long time coming.
I think fair to even say an extremely, extremely long time coming.
And I know a lot of the focus is on the razor wire.
And I think that just shows you the point to which we have so diluted the rhetoric on the not just legal immigration, but the specifically the illegal immigration debate to the point where we're debating about the intricacies of razor wire being effective or not and whether or not the Biden regime thinks that regardless of the efficacy of this tool, that states should be allowed to defend themselves from an invasion.
But look, I think you are right to use the S word, secession.
And look, there's a lot of, I think, chatter that goes on about the concept, the idea of a civil war.
I think first and foremost, we should realize that before we discuss a civil war, I think there are elements of foreign warfare that are being waged against the United States right now.
You know, a lot of my background is in Chinese Communist Party.
Infiltration, certainly on that front, but you have actual kinetic warfare going on at the southern border, the invasion, mass invasion of military-age males.
And when you use this term, you know, civil war, I think if you perceive of the political spectrum, you know, Republicans and Democrats, is it going to be, you know, Democratic Americans fighting against Republican Americans?
I don't think that that is ever actually going to happen.
I think the immigration issue is a perfect kind of bellwether and litmus test to encapsulate what the true civil war really is about, which is the elites, the uniparty, whatever you want to describe it as the swamp, and the average everyday American people.
And I think that the perfect issue that shows the dividing line on that is immigration, because it's the big donors, it's the corporate globalists who benefit from having a mass supply of cheap labor.
And it's the average American people who get screwed over routinely, whether it's wage suppression, crime in the cities, when you have this mass unfettered immigration and legal immigration too.
So I'm glad that Abbott finally stood up and took a stand for actual American people.
But I think it's way too long coming.
And I think the only reason he's doing it is because we waited for it to get to a point where it was so bad.
And every day that you refuse to do something, even if he would have done this, say just yesterday, those are thousands of new so-called Americans that would not have been led into this country who I'm sure probably going to vote in the next election cycle.
And I think we need more actual action on this issue and not just talking points and strongly worded letters from Congress.
But I do think you are right to sort of frame this in it.
And really, what is a kind of civil war-esque-ish mindset?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And Nat, I mean, that's a really good point because, you know, firmly speaking, I really, and this is not a dig to Tim Poole, but I mean, like, if I look, and I love Tim, but I've seen like 10 videos saying, are we in a civil war or are we in a civil war?
And let's be upfront.
Nobody wants that, right?
I'm a father.
I have a son.
Nobody wants to be engaged in warfare.
Nobody wants their husbands.
Nobody wants their boyfriends to fight unnecessary battles.
There's been enough blood going on in Gaza, enough going on in Ukraine.
We don't need more preventable wars that could have been prevented through good procedure.
Gosh, I missed Trump.
I mean, if Trump was in office, we wouldn't be, we wouldn't have these wars.
They wouldn't even exist.
We know that's true.
So let's not bring that to the homeland.
But Nat, Natalie Carey, she is a commentator.
We're going to look at some of her street videos later.
But I know this stuff is very important to you as well.
I mean, is it about damn time that we're seeing this where the border is being shut down?
It's being restricted.
And it's at a purpose where the state's saying, look, if the federal government is failing at its charter, if you guys are not implementing your constitutional responsibility to protect us, this is essentially like a marriage.
You are not holding up your end of the contract.
You are not holding up your end of the commitment.
You are literally in a foreign house taking care of another woman and taking care of another family.
And our home and my family, we've got to survive.
And we're not going to go to a battered woman's shelter.
We're going to bring our guns out blazing, bring our razor wire out.
We're going to bring our heavy machinery and we're going to fuck shit up.
And so, you know, I mean, you're a tough, you're a tough person.
You go out on the streets.
You know what's going on.
What is your opinion on this?
natalie carrey
Yeah, I actually totally agree with Natalie that it's not so much a civil war between Republicans and Democrats, but it's really the elites versus the rest of us, because I go on the streets in places like Venice Beach and very liberal parts of the country, like some of the most liberal parts.
And I'm always so surprised to hear people have very conservative positions.
And I'm convinced that there's that's actually the majority, that it's actually the media manipulating people into thinking that they're in the minority if they want to protect the borders, if they support Trump and things like that.
And Texas absolutely does have a constitutional right to defend its borders.
That's what the federal government is supposed to be doing.
And if they're not, then Texas is going to do it.
So I don't know that I would use the word secession, but I would use the word challenge.
I mean, Greg Abbott is directly challenging the Biden administration saying, if you want the open border, come and get it.
Come and do it.
You're going to have to be the one to do it.
And I think that's great.
We need more of that.
And it has been a long time coming.
Hopefully we'll see more of that.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
elijah schaffer
And I do think the reason why I say secession, I put a question mark is because, like, I had a friend who recently divorced.
And I think we all know we've known people who divorce.
And you can see it coming, right?
It's not like one day it's like, oh, we're divorced.
You first, there's, you know, oh, we're having problems, but we're past that as a country.
Oh, we have disagreements.
We're past that.
Then they're separated, right?
Now, there's a difference taking a day off, you know, and we do that sometimes, taking a day off, going on a trip.
If you're in a relationship, by the way, you should occasionally have at least one day apart a year to go breathe, be with your family, do something.
And that's healthy for any family who's complicated.
But in this current family, we have a division to the point to where this is a full-on separation saying permanently going forward, we are not going to be cooperating with you.
And it's not because of like, oh, I'm just being the bitch in a relationship or the guy's being an asshole.
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My guests today are on the show and we're talking about this.
All right, so let's talk about secession.
I really do want to have an honest discussion with both of you about this on whether that's clickbait or like the genuinely the right thing to do.
I'm going to go to my screen here.
Journalism commentator Mario Nafal, I believe he's foreign.
I don't think he's American, says the Texas plan to secede from U.S. is gaining momentum.
Abbott has declared that Texas is being invaded and accused Biden of betraying his oath.
Over 6 million, I'm going to correct that and call it illegal immigrants or illegals.
We're not going to call them migrants.
Illegal immigrants have poured across the U.S. southern borders, causing chaos for the states, especially Texas.
Daniel Miller, the head of the Texit movement, says, I think with the trajectory the federal government is on, Texas will definitely become an independent nation within 30 years.
And now, this is not just him.
This is source was Newsweek.
I don't want to read the whole article, but you see down here that Texas governor Greg Abbott told Biden he betrayed his oath.
And you can read the affidavit.
I might post a link to that later, but you can read the full thing right.
I think here he says President Biden has violated his oath.
So you have formal declaration.
And ladies, I mean, to me, beyond maybe not having the balls or perhaps not having, I guess you could say, like want to be responsible for the one who kicks off the civil war or kicks off the breaking of the union.
I don't personally believe we can get any closer to a declaration from a state saying sincerely we are on our own and letting its people know that the government does not respect its own charter, does not respect its own laws.
And look, we're going to do what we have to do to keep our state safe.
Is Abbott right?
Is he wrong on this?
Natalie, from the war room, I'd love to know what you think.
natalie winters
I don't even think it's just about, you know, not respecting laws.
I think why there is that fundamental divide that I think you really cannot mend, you cannot reconcile these two viewpoints is that the Biden regime is intent on the destruction of America.
And they've used mass migration, really a weapon of mass migration as a weapon of mass destruction to achieve this end, not just, I think, from a demographic change standpoint.
You know, they love to say Republicans gerrymander.
Well, Democrats, that's just projection because they're gerrymandering the vote for the entire country by pumping in millions of people who always conveniently seem to be transported on taxpayer subsidized flights to swing states.
So it's not just that the Biden regime is like, oh, well, we think that the better way to secure the southern border is by not using razor wire.
It's by building a wall.
They don't think that we should even secure the southern border, right?
They don't offer an alternative.
They just say razor wire isn't this, isn't the solution.
And I think that's why you can't reconcile these two world viewpoints, which is, I think, why you could eventually get to something like secession, because you see time and time again,
the Biden regime from a policy standpoint facilitating this mass invasion of the United States, whether it's the fact that they're stripping the DNA test requirements for minor illegal aliens being encountered at the border to see if their so-called parents are actually their parents or if they're just members of cartels or human traffickers or trafficking victims themselves.
Or even just two weeks ago, there was a story that broke showing, again, it wasn't publicly announced by the Biden regime.
It was an internal memo that was leaked to someone at the Daily Caller showing that the Biden regime had changed specifically the vetting process for Chinese nationals at the southern border and watering down the number of questions that they were asking them from 40 to 5.
Some of the questions that they now omit include, do you have weapons training?
And even they no longer cross-reference their phone data with a sort of federal database that they can cross or match with other terrorist groups or hostile foreign regimes, i.e. the Chinese Communist Party.
So it's not just that the Biden regime, you know, there's a difference of opinion on the best way to secure the southern border.
They have said, I think quite forcefully, they don't even care both in action and rhetoric about securing the southern border.
And believe me, all the clowns up at the White House, they are loving this mass influx, this mass invasion, because maybe they'll get people who will actually vote for them or they can just tank this country financially that I think you make it a lot more likely for these far-left economic policies to materialize.
But I think when you talk about secession, there's really an irreconcilable difference on the issue of immigration because one side is in favor of the destruction of America.
And the other side, which isn't even just Republican, I would say it's Americans, is in favor of defending it.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And Natalie Carey, just someone asked in the comments, which one is Natalie Winters, which one is Carrie Winters is in the middle.
We're in Winters.
So we put Winters in the middle.
natalie winters
You can call me Winters if you want.
elijah schaffer
All right, no, but it's actually, it was totally not done on purpose to you guys.
And I have to say this, though.
I want to make the most sexist statement ever because it's slightly offensive, but in favor of women, is I've always said this.
I'm the most pro-woman show and pro-woman channel that possibly has ever existed ever.
I'm just brutally honest about females.
Just like I tell you, I'm the most pro-black channel ever.
unidentified
And last week, we had some very, we had some interesting ones.
And that's all I'm going to say because I will be very nice.
elijah schaffer
But they did talk about things that I don't think should be said by ladies, such as men pleasuring themselves in front of their Bibles and things like that.
So it was really gross and very off-putting.
And the whole audience was sick.
So I told them, I was like, hey, I'm going to bring on some ladies next week who actually give women a good name in the conservative movement and who actually know what they're talking about.
And you did not disappoint.
I think you have both gained a lot of new fans tonight with your intellect and both with your grace and the way you both carry yourself.
And I got to appreciate you guys for literally carrying all of women on your backs tonight and making it possible.
Natalie Carey, I want to get your opinion.
If you can go to my screen here, Brian, building on what Winters said, you know, Mario Nafal brought this up and he said that, and quote from Abbott, that Texas razor wire is an effective deterrent to the illegal crossings Biden encourages.
I will continue to defend Texas's constitutional authority to secure the border and prevent the Biden admin from destroying our property.
And I think that these are really charged words, right?
He claims that Biden is encouraging people to cross the border.
He says that he has the constitutional authority, that he says that he has authority based off of not his office, but of a written charter.
And he also says that he needs to prevent the Biden admin from destroying our property.
So differentiates the difference between federal land and state land and state asset.
You know, people on the internet are already deflecting.
I see a lot of people calling this barbed wire, as if we're on some back lot in a Los Angeles junkyard and a little barbed wire to prevent petty thefts.
No, this is military-grade military sophistication, interlocking razor wire.
This is not stuff that you're just going to buy at Home Depot, right, or Lowe's.
This is serious shit, probably licensed to probably purchase from a distributor.
Do you think that Abbott is correct on this?
He has the authority and that the Constitution is on his side and that he's right, that Biden is breaking the law and Biden is not just allowing, but he's encouraging this.
I'd love to know what you think.
natalie carrey
I mean, yeah, absolutely.
So Congress actually makes the laws, right?
So Biden took an oath to enforce those laws.
If Biden doesn't enforce the laws that the Congress that we voted for makes, then he is by definition violating his oath.
And furthermore, in the Constitution, it does say that the federal government is supposed to protect states from invasion.
And also, which Greg Abbott pointed out, that the states have the interest to protect themselves, to act in self-defense.
So if Joe Biden is violating his oath to the people of America, not just the Constitution, but to all of us, then yes, Greg Abbott has every authority to protect his state, to protect all of us.
And it's actually quite nice to see that someone is finally doing that.
I think people have been begging for that for a long time now.
And I do hope that this actually emboldens more conservative leaders in the future because we need more people acting like this.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
And I want to flip the switch here, Winters and Carrie, about this topic.
You know, people are talking consistently about how, oh, you know, basically nobody's doing anything.
And I think it was Tucker Carlson directly who said, where are the men, right?
Where are the men?
But one of the difficult parts about this is, and I think that concerns me, is, well, the men look at what's already happened.
And when we look at January 6 and we see not only people being falsely prosecuted, imprisoned, and I want to, I want to get the seriousness of this across.
Okay.
There are.
There are our brothers and sisters, our fellow citizens, not just citizens, but patriots mothers brothers sons fathers, who are rotting in prison to an extent of a partial life to full life sentence.
With the quality of life they're in, they might as well be dead in a few years.
A lot of them don't even have working electricity.
They don't even have toilets, they don't have windows on their cell.
They are treated like animals.
In fact, there are most animals are treated better than them and they're in prison right now, rotting because why?
Because they believe what we believe.
They're no different than us and they acted upon it.
And our politicians have done nothing to.
Santis has done nothing, Abbott has pretty much done nothing, and there's a lot of lip service given, but our politicians have failed us.
So I don't that kind of message, you know, communicates to people, look, you can act all you want, but you will be abandoned.
I'm going to be make my my own UH audience mad about this but, quite frankly, even Trump didn't do anything that he should have done at the end of his term, and so there's just precedent sent.
So winters, we need to talk about this because i'm willing to touch on this.
I'm a Trump guy.
I like Trump and that's okay.
I like Trump.
But I know he should have pardoned these people rather than Codact Black.
I know it was a mistake of his.
Whoever gets into office, if it's Trump, I pray to God that he actually does something about these these, these dissident prisoners that are in jail.
But I mean, when we're looking at J6 and we're looking at this, is Tucker Carlson just have a pipe dream?
I mean, is there anything that people could really do if there wasn't any backing?
And I want to add to this, if the state decides to back them, should Abbott declare to people of the state, look, we're giving you constitutional authority to defend yourself and your land?
Or, unless he does that, should everybody just back up and just say, hey it, i'm not getting involved?
natalie winters
I think there is no better juxtaposition of the I don't even like to say two-tier justice system, because that's too euphemistic a term and it's not even a justice system that we live in than when you, when you compare what you see going on at the southern border right, you have these processing dates for these illegal aliens that are like three decades in the future if they're even put into the system.
Right, the Biden regime can't even get an actual count if anything they're under counting how many migrants are are coming in or storming this country literally every single day.
Meanwhile, on the january 6th front, they prosecuted these people, and I mean at operation work speed rates right, like it was if they had to do it yesterday or it was never going to happen, and remember they went through all of these cases individually so they could really bolster this so-called, you know, hate crime narrative.
Meanwhile, with on the case of of illegal aliens, they're just lumping them all together right, they want to downplay the numbers there.
So I think that, right there, shows you what we were talking about in the beginning.
Right, this concept of again, I agree with you on the Civil War stuff, but just the idea that the orientation specifically of the issue with immigration, it's not Republicans versus Democrats, it's people who are Americans and believe that America, you need a border, you need borders, you need sovereignty to actually be a country, and people who are very okay with America ceasing to exist.
You know, in terms of actual action on the January 6th front, look, I think that that Carrie Lake audio that we heard, I think is a bombshell tape, not just in the case of Carrie Lake, but I think you extrapolate that across every politician, state, local, federal, you name it.
And it shows that, frankly, more often than not, the politicians that you are seeing who are being elected are the ones who are actually taking the offers for whatever it is, money, honeypots, you know, power, board positions, you name it.
And the real true patriots or however you want to describe it, that it's those types who are being edged out.
And I think Kerry Lake, that audio is very, very, very telling.
And I think that's why you see so little action.
And frankly, I'd also put it not just on the politicians, but I'd put it on conservative media too, because I think for so long, we've had a very centralized conservative news apparatus, which is primarily Fox News, right?
The Murdochs run the show there.
And they think that we, your audience, War Room's audience, we are dumb people who will be okay with bread and circuses, but those circuses are going to be performative actions, hearings, and strongly worded letters.
And for so long, people have been okay with that because all we've really ever had to watch is Fox News.
But I think as of late, especially with the advent of Trump and slamming the mainstream media, of which Fox News is a part of, I think the difference is now that shows like yours, shows like War Room are getting to set the goalposts for what accountability looks like.
And these performative actions are no longer cutting it.
And that's why you see Kevin McCarthy getting deposed.
That's why you see some marginal action on the southern border.
But I think there's actually more effective mechanisms to get our viewpoints across that didn't exist in the Trump years.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I agree with you on that.
And, you know, to remind people, it's like we have several thousand people watching across our platforms right now of a very small show, right?
I don't have a team.
I'm just here.
You can see this.
I'm in my home office right now.
The internet was even bad.
And what is the point of that?
You guys are watching because you want the truth, because you know the truth, because you know I'm not going to bullshit you.
I will say things that are not popular.
People get really mad at me all the time because we say things.
Natalie and Steve and the crew say things a lot of times.
Carrie says stuff, but you follow because you're like, you know, sometimes the truth is not true six months from now.
And I mean, that's a weird point, but sometimes it's not true from now.
Sometimes we have to question, investigate before we conclude.
And that sometimes means losing your audience, sometimes it means losing followers.
It means losing advertisers, but it's worth it.
And I want to play that recording.
I'm going to go to Carrie after this, but I want to play the Carrie Lake audio recording because even if you've heard it before, we're going to discuss it because it's so fucking insane.
I've told you guys that I have had meetings in boardrooms with people who asked me to go away, who tried to get me out of media, who gave me plea deals, who told me, you know, to shut up to things.
And it was, this is the closest thing I've heard to what I've experienced in my personal life.
I sent it to people.
They said, I've been in rooms like this before too.
And finally, someone got it recorded and proved the corruption of DC.
And we got to be praying for it for Natalie Winters right there, who's, you know, in the hellhole herself every day.
Just absolutely, what a shithole that place is.
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I'm with my guest, the Natalies, with how well this is going.
I am really shocked, by the way.
I haven't had either of you on before.
And I've been in your circles.
We've known each other.
It's been a long time, but it is such a pleasure to have you both joining me tonight.
And I want to play, speaking of a crazy, a crazy bitch who I love, Carrie Lake.
What a psychopath in all the good ways.
And you're going to hear this.
This is the most psychopathic recording of a bribery that I have ever heard.
And holy shit, it's like you're in a Spielberg movie, but Carrie Lake is a fucking badass.
Check out this.
I think we have the full.
This is probably the full.
We can just listen to this real fast.
Here we go.
This is her response.
And we're not going to play the whole thing.
You can listen to the whole thing, but here's what she had to say.
Let's listen to this.
unidentified
I'm not willing to accept that.
And I'm going to be the biggest pain in these people.
Go back and tell them that.
I'm running.
And I'm going to be the biggest pain in their.
elijah schaffer
I'm not willing to tell them that.
unidentified
And they're going to have to kill me to stop me.
You don't have to tell them that, but I don't think they will.
elijah schaffer
I don't think that's the way they are.
unidentified
Either they come around and try to work with me or I'm just going to entail not tell layman's telling me you got to distance yourself from Trump.
No, you distance yourself from DeSantis.
elijah schaffer
He's all but heard about that.
unidentified
But what I'm saying is, don't tell people that.
I'm with Trump, okay?
I want to work for the betterment of Arizona.
I'm not going to let these people back in DC tell me not to run.
What can we do?
elijah schaffer
All right.
Carrie, I want to go to you right now.
So basically the gist of that, it's a long audio, but Carrie Lake was offered money or a comfy position to get out of politics to not back Trump.
And the most controversial part of it was she asked the GOP bribesman if he thought it was good for the country.
He said, no, but this is what the people want.
He literally told her, like, we don't, we're not doing what's in the interest of the people.
We're doing what's in the interest of the party.
Just please go away.
And she said, also, like Abbott, sincerely fuck you.
And since this has just happened the other day, number one, I want to get your thoughts on this.
What you think about Carrie's response if that was dumb?
Is she should she have played by the game or is she, you know, again, is this a good idea?
And then number two, with that kind of response, is this a resurgence of nationalism, of nationalists saying we're not playing by the DC dirt.
You know, we're just going to take what we want.
And if we're going to be stopped, then you better fucking kill me because I'm not going to take this shit lying down.
I mean, I was impressed beyond all belief.
Carrie, what do you think?
natalie carrey
Yeah, I think that when you say, should she have played the game?
think, I mean, no, that's how we got here, right?
Is politicians just playing the game.
And I think it's so funny that he says this isn't what the people want, but his definition of people are the elites, just like what Winters was saying, is that they think of themselves as the people.
They don't see that the people are actually the American people and that we're actually very tired of the elites treating us like this and treating our politicians like this.
And I think that there are several leaders who are rising up to the moment.
I think it's been decades of this and we're seeing things just get worse and worse.
And finally, there are a few politicians who are rising up and are holding their ground and saying enough is enough.
We have Trump, Carrie Lake, Matt Gates.
And I, yeah, I think it's good that she's doing this.
And I think that this is probably a lot more widespread than people think.
elijah schaffer
Winters, I know you have a load of thoughts on this entire interaction and you're in DC right now, yeah?
natalie winters
I'm actually in Los Angeles right now, but I do have a place in DC, but I don't like being there.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so you do, but you are familiar.
You're there on a regular basis.
So, I mean, Arizona, Texas, I mean, we're seeing this resurgence of this defiance.
Do you think this was, and I, and I really want to be honest here because I don't want to play to our party.
Is this performative?
You know, just like, oh, I'm going to be a nationalist.
I'm with Trump.
Or do you think she's legit?
And is this a sign of the times, like with Abbott, with Lake, that people are saying, fuck you to the establishment, and that we're going to try to take our country back this year?
natalie winters
Look, I think we can go back to Texas to answer this question.
I'm sure those same, you know, so-called forces, I know in the longer recording, he refers to them as the folks back east, whatever that is a euphemism for.
I'm not quite sure.
Hopefully Carrie or Jim will let us know.
But I mean, when they impeached Ken Paxton, I think it's those similar forces who don't like politicians that actually put Americans first, whether the issue is the border, whether it's taking up big pharma.
It's Republicans who, like I said, don't fit into that mold of being controlled opposition.
They aren't just good little candidates that do what, you know, the Murdoch tell them to, good little candidates who do what the NRCC or Mitch McConnell or any of these establishment rhinos tell them to.
I always joke that even though I'm 22, I'm way too blackpilled because I've done so much reporting on, you know, the foreign infiltration aspects in Washington, D.C., but even just the lobbying, domestic and foreign.
And you really realize how the concept of a politician, right, congressman, whatever, senator, whatever, like they're just empty vessels for whoever is funding them.
And of course, we know that's why Trump was different because he didn't need their money.
But whether it's big tech, big pharma, foreign countries, whether it's the Middle East, China, you name it, all of these, you know, candidates and officials are really just weird amalgamations of whoever is funding them.
Like this idea that we have actual fighters in the Republican Party, with the exception of very few, isn't real.
It's coke sold to Republicans, right?
So I think when you see someone like Carrie Lake stepping up and not just insinuating that she has some tape, but actually leaking on these people, which I think is pretty badass.
I guess we can cuss from this on this show, a little different than the war room.
But I think that is putting action behind the rhetoric.
Of course, Jim DeMitt already resigned, which is great.
But I think it's a much broader and more systemic problem that isn't just about Republican elites or Democratic elites.
It is that there is this elite ruling force in the United States.
They control and run politics, but they want you to think that you have the ability to influence it.
But you can see a lot of this stuff happens behind closed doors.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And I kind of bring up the idea that we know it's happening behind closed doors.
Now, I don't want to throw anyone under the bus here and I won't, okay?
The point is, as someone told me, they said, hey, you've been through a lot in the last couple of years.
And I said, hey, buddy, we've all been through a lot over the last couple of years.
It's been a wild ride.
And one of the reasons why we persist is because when you have a clear conscience and you're standing on truth, there's very little that people can do to get in the way.
And you see that with Trump.
I even say if you put this amount of scrutiny Trump is under on any one of us on the screen today, you'd probably find more discrepancies in taxes and issues than you did with the president himself.
I mean, I am always shocked that they didn't find more issues because this is insane.
But apparently, I always say the reason why he knows that he was fine was because he never drank, because he never drank.
He never had a memory that he forgot.
And it's not that every time you drink, you make bad choices, but when you make bad choices, it's usually when you're drinking.
So that's something that he's proven to us right by action.
Now, he's not a moral person in all regards, but he has been able to track his steps.
And that's a really important thing that we need today is to make sure that we are tracking our steps and their steps because they are rewriting history.
In fact, you'll see today they're deleting searches off of Google even as we speak.
They are limiting your ability to find information.
And there is a possible plan for an EMP or to blame on a solar flare and wipe out the internet.
Just like they planted pipe bombs during January 6th, if people didn't go into the Capitol, they were going to set off the pipe bombs as the alternate false flag.
They didn't need to set off the pipe bombs.
They couldn't manage two narratives.
My best guess is there from being there.
So they just kept with the infiltration of the Capitol and then left the pipe bomb to go off into whatever law law land.
However, we've got to talk about this because people know that people are not in power that are claiming to be in power.
And the best example of that is this video from Natalie Carey, which I want to play here for a second, asking people if two black women, if they would allow, you know, Biden to, I think this is the one, right, to babysit their kids.
Is this the correct one?
Okay.
Let me play this.
And this is just random people on the street who are aware of what's going on.
People are waking up.
unidentified
Listen.
natalie carrey
Would you guys let Joe Biden babysit your kids?
unidentified
No.
Hell no, because he fell asleep before I even got out the door.
No.
natalie carrey
For sure.
unidentified
Hey, Michael Jackson.
He'd lose them for sure.
Joe's way too old.
Oh, Joe.
But I let Donald Trump babysit my kid.
Would you guys let Joe Biden?
elijah schaffer
Carrie, let's go to that.
And when you're on the street, I mean, we got to get in the practical sense because what you, you, myself, and Winters believes honestly is nothing, right?
Let's speak clear.
Almost everybody I know, my old colleagues included, were big team DeSantis people.
And I was laughing.
So I was like, well, you're not really good influencers if your influence couldn't even change a primary.
What the echo chamber of elitists think on the internet is really irrelevant to what's actually going on in the street.
When you were out there and you were talking to people, I'm sure a lot didn't make the cut.
Did you find that in general the support was for Trump?
People were against Biden.
Did you selectively choose those edits?
Like, what did you see while you were talking to real people out there?
natalie carrey
That's what's so funny is no.
I mean, there were clips that didn't make it in because maybe people talk very slowly.
So it's kind of boring or whatever.
But everybody was like, no, there's no way I would let Joe Biden babysit my kids.
Some people are saying, oh, he would sniff them.
But so many people are like, he would just lose them.
He just wouldn't be paying attention.
And I asked one girl, it didn't make the clip, but I asked her, I said, so if you wouldn't let him babysit your kids, then why are you letting him, why would you let him run a country?
And I know she was like liberal because her friend who was with her just gave me like the dirtiest look.
But she was like, yeah, well, I'm not like a big fan of Joe Biden.
So people, they don't like Joe Biden.
And there is so much support for Trump.
And I don't just like say that because I love Trump.
I really mean it.
Like I go out and I'm always shocked.
And I said to my friends before, I'm like, how is it possible that there are so many people on Venice Beach who love Trump?
This is like such a liberal area.
And he literally said to me, he said, I think that the media is just manipulating people into thinking that they have more support than they do, that everyone hates Trump, because it's just not true.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And by the way, I wanted to apologize.
Someone said, oh, Carrie wasn't on the thumbnail.
That was because I put in Natalie Carey, Natalie Winters, and my producer thought that was somebody's name, Natalie Winters Carey.
So it duplicated the name Natalie.
And I was like, that's a real person.
And they're like, oh, shoot.
Sorry.
So I was like, all right.
So I apologize for that, but there was two Natalie.
natalie carrey
Thanks for having me back, guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
No, I know they were like, where is she not on the thumbnail?
I'm like, I, yeah, I apologize.
We'll get you on there next time because we'll have you girls back because good thing for all of us, bad thing for the country.
As long as we have a job, the country's probably not going to be doing too well.
And that's just the harsh reality of it.
So many people are incentivized to keep the country doing poorly.
And you guys need to remember that that are watching.
A lot of people have very bad intentions.
They're doomer pilling.
And the most important part is you want to be encouraging people to do what's right.
One of these things is we got a super chat from Unapologetic Noticer said, thank you for standing up for Patriot Front and the pro-white movements, pro-Portilla El Gloria.
I do want to clarify that, though.
Look, I'm not standing up for any group because I haven't investigated it.
I don't sanction groups on the show.
And what I was talking about with Patriot Front, which I'm working on a private investigation there with the Gateway pundits.
So I'm not going to get into it.
It's just that there was accusations that Patriot Front were a bunch of feds that were run by the FBI.
And so I took that claim and investigated it.
And I haven't found that to be a true statement.
And I've just displayed that publicly that I didn't think that was accurate.
I'm not saying the glowies don't exist.
There aren't informants.
I'm not saying they haven't been infiltrated.
I haven't proven anything.
It's not on my plate to disprove your claim.
It's your prerogative to prove your claim.
And people that have claimed they are feds have been unable to provide substantiary evidence.
And so I'm just an investigative journalist as well as a commentator.
So I'm working on a project studying these groups.
And but I will not lie, you know, and I don't think it's good to, it's called fed jacketing.
When we call everybody who organizes a fed, then we end up losing our ability to organize.
And that's what the federal government does.
January 6th, they call us domestic terrorists.
Every group like Patriot Front, they call feds.
That makes us think that anyone who organizes and gets together is a federal agent or everything is a Fed PSYOP.
I do think January 6th was a Fed PSYOP.
I was there.
I do believe that.
So I'm not saying it isn't true, but they are trying to discourage organizing.
So I'm trying to investigate these procedures and these groups.
So wish me luck as I continue to investigate.
And thank you for the super chat.
I do want to talk and switch gears here for a second about something really strange.
Now, Winters, Carrie, I don't, I'm imagining, I mean, Winters, you're from War Room.
So I'm imagining you guys have probably taken more of a like pro-Israel side, right?
In the conflict with Palestine and Gaza or like in general.
Am I wrong on that?
Or is that true?
natalie winters
We're definitely not for escalating anything into a form of kinetic warfare.
We would say secure the southern border, get our house in order before we send any additional aid.
So I don't, I think maybe we're slightly more pro-Israel than you, but I don't even really know if I would put it in those terms.
I, of course, speak for myself in this capacity, but I think we view what's going on in Israel as part of just a broader string of global conflicts between Ukraine, then the Middle East, and ultimately will, I think, conclude in South China, see with Taiwan.
That's meant to do stableize the United States.
So I'm not for giving any form of U.S. taxpayer resources to help accelerate any of these conflicts to achieve that ultimate goal.
unidentified
Amazing.
elijah schaffer
Okay, I just don't want to get you in trouble with this next story because, no, IG, yeah, I just, I just want to be sensitive to my guests at all times, but I don't want to shy away from this stuff.
So this is a really important story that we need to talk about about the weakening of the Biden administration and just how weak foreign countries view us.
Even our own allies, which it's debatable whether they're strategic allies or not.
I don't find Israel to be a very important ally, but some people disagree with me on that.
However, the point is, is that none of our allies should be bullying us or attacking us.
And they will do that.
People understand there's no such thing as an ally in war.
There's no such thing as an ally in the world.
I'm telling you this.
Look at the states in our own union.
They don't trust each other.
Talk to a Texan about a Californian.
There's no such thing.
We just have vague agreements and go in directions.
But Biden's weak leadership is, this is a crazy story.
If you take this off the screen for a second, I want to lay the groundwork for this.
Nobody's going to touch this story because the reason why, and I want to say why we will touch it, is because it doesn't make the pro-Palestinian protesters look good.
It doesn't make the pro-Israeli side look good.
It doesn't make the Biden administration look good.
And it forces you, if you are a part of party politics and partisan, to admit that maybe both sides are bad, which no one wants to.
You're not going to see a lot of shows be like, hey, maybe everyone's kind of got bad intentions here.
And maybe people are really taking advantage of a situation.
Now you can go to my screen here.
We're going to read a few articles on this.
Again, few are touching this in the media besides some vague articles.
But the NYPD is investigating an alleged chemical attack on pro-Palestine Columbia University students.
I have a few more articles, but students protesting Israel's bombardment of Gaza reported being sprayed with chemicals and caused nausea and headaches.
Let me see if I can zoom in on this.
There you go.
The New York Police Department on Tuesday said it was investigating an alleged chemical attack on students protesting in support of Palestine on Columbia's university campus last week.
Students protesting Israel's bombardment of Gaza, which has killed more than 25,000 people, according to Palestinian health officials, reported being sprayed with a chemical that left many with symptoms such as nausea, abdominal pain, headaches, and irritated eyes.
It goes on to say there was a foul smell.
And the NYPD is investigating claims that the chemical unleashed on these students is skunk, an agent developed in Israel and used on crowd control weapon, most commonly in the occupied West Bank, which again, this is Guardian.
So they're going to use obviously anti-Israel terminology if you're pro-Israel, just so you know the bias.
I give the bias slant of the publications.
SJP said that chemicals were sprayed by two students who are former Israeli soldiers who mixed in with the crowd by wearing Palestinian.
I don't know how to say that.
The Guardian could not verify this claim and the NYPD and Columbia did not directly respond to questions about the identity of the perpetrators, according to a statement from Columbia.
The alleged perpetrators of the attack have been identified and immediately banned from campus while law enforcement investigation proceeds.
So take that off.
I want to go straight to Winters here.
I did do further investigation.
You guys can, I do encourage you guys to investigate more on this, you know, what's going on here.
But it does appear from what I've seen through the testing, and it could be disproven, that yes, a IDF chemical agent was sprayed on students, a crowd control, IDF developed agent, which again is very possible that the, you know, there's obviously foreign agent.
Mossad works in the United States.
The CIA works all around the world.
We probably are committing predator drone strikes as we speak.
It's not uncommon for foreign governments to get involved in political processes.
That's the USA's number one favorite thing to do is to interject ourselves into foreign conflicts.
But what I'm saying is, is that Israel, if this is true and the alleged incident is correct from what I saw that alleged IDF soldiers or connected Mossad agents, you know, unleashed a chemical agent on Columbia students.
Look, fucking, I'm not pro-Muslim or Arab, and so I don't take that stance, but they attacked Americans, even if I disagree with them politically.
And to me, that's a sign of only a sign that you have an extremely terminally weak leadership.
And even if it wasn't the IDF and it was some correlative Zionist group, that people feel emboldened to do that and that the police are protecting their identities is a sure sign that we are in a bad fucking place as a country.
And I'm disappointed that people are not covering this because it doesn't make either side look good.
It makes us all look ridiculous.
It makes us all look stupid.
But Winters, I want to go to you first.
What you think about this?
Do you think this is real?
Do you think this is fake?
And if this is real or fake, what implication do you conclude from this?
natalie winters
Well, I think you're right to sort of preface with the caveat being that The Guardian and of course, most I would say mainstream news outlets.
I don't know if I would classify it as anti-Israel, but I would say always seem to sort of take the oppressor versus oppressed narrative and always kind of run with the, oh, woe is Palestine story.
So I'm sure, like, for instance, I think even all the, just from the legal perspective, all of the ifs, and they couldn't confirm all the quotes there.
I think it'll be interesting to see how this story plays out.
I would not advocate either side should be spraying the other with chemical gases developed, you know, here or elsewhere.
But I don't know.
Again, my background is more in the Chinese Communist Party side of foreign infiltration.
But I will say, I think I see a lot of stories like these.
And frankly, I think from the videos that I've seen, it seems to be more when I see the pro-Palestine side of things, whether it's in New York or wherever.
I mean, you look at those videos and it doesn't even look like you're in the United States.
And I don't say that with racial undertones.
I say that just the way these people protest, it's not the American tradition.
Like, you know, Anne Coulter always said, the Anglo-Saxon tradition of debate and discourse here in the United States, when you import these different cultures and you make Americans really riled up and I think really weaponize them to take very firm stances on sides of international political conflicts that I don't even think we can understand the nuances and intricacies of.
I think that's how you get these just bizarre tensions, this bizarre and just very un-American way of protesting, I would say, which is literally gassing SJP people again, allegedly.
But it just, again, maybe this is probably a more niche critique than your audience is probably expecting from me.
But I just think it shows you when you import all these different cultures into this country, not only do you get the obvious like cross-cultural fighting, or I guess in this case, ethnic divisions, but it's also just protests that are a far cry from the, I would say, debates that our founding fathers had about, you know, what the scope of government should be.
Instead, it's these people in the Kafias looking like, you know, they're homeless, advocating for countries that hate the United States.
But then you have other foreign countries like gassing.
So it's just, it's this whole muddled ecosystem, which I think is the best way forward is and always has been America first.
And we don't need to get tied up in these foreign conflicts that at the end of the day, I don't really think result in much gain either way.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and Kerry, I'm going to get your thought on this.
And look, I've read some other reliable sources on this.
I do want to clarify though that like, I just don't trust any of these things.
Like, like when the minute someone brings up like a Daily Beast article to prove a point to me, I just go, uh-uh, I have more doubts about them than anything.
So, like, you know, it's kind of ironic that I'm bringing these up, but I, I, when I see enough articles or different from different countries, different places, I at least think it's fair enough to compare them, see if we're getting consistent accounts, where their sources are from.
And I know that, you know, some of these people explained that from one source said that they were former IDF soldiers.
So they weren't, someone said they were not like currently in Mossad.
They were identified as having previous connections.
So again, we don't know if that means they're just double agents, maybe they're informants or what happened.
I just think it's wild to me that there is such a serious story that an agent was identified that traces back to Israeli development.
This shows that there are foreign intervention during an election year of our social issues.
The Republicans won't cover it because it makes Israel look bad in terms of if they're sending Mossad to influence or IDF to influence our social issues.
It makes Gazans look bad because, well, they're just fucking crazy, these pro-Palestinian protests.
And ultimately speaking, it also makes Biden look bad for the Democrats because now you have Israel coming.
So then no one talks about it.
And to me, this is a very important story and no one wants to touch it.
And it's not because the facts aren't there because they'll talk about something way less, right?
They'll talk about something that has from an unnamed source that was never seen and never happened, but could have been.
So Carrie, I want to get your opinion on this.
Do you think this is significant?
Do you think this shows a little bit about the lack of conversation?
Our country people are more concerned with presenting news that reinforces their worldview, that reinforces their opinion, and that we really are being influenced.
We really don't know what's going on.
And our country is out of control and in the control of people who don't have our best interest in mind.
I'd love to know what you think.
natalie carrey
Yeah.
I think that they're definitely using our media to manipulate us, whether that's twisting a story or just making it so that you don't see certain stories because they want to influence how you perceive different controversies and things that are going on.
So, you know, I don't know why they wouldn't, you know, if this, if they really had like the best interests of people being educated and knowing, you know, what's going on in their country, I don't know why they wouldn't amplify this story, especially since, you know, being targeted with chemicals seems really bad and something that people might want to know about, might want to be on the lookout for since these protests are happening everywhere.
But it just does go to show like what Natalie was saying about how when you import people from all over the war world, you also import their ethnic conflicts.
And people are much more attached to where they come from than they are to actually the best interests of America.
So when you let people come in here, you're going to get people who don't actually care about America, don't actually care about the society that they're creating that we all have to live in.
So they'll throw chemicals on people.
They'll do these massive protests.
They'll shut down traffic because they don't actually care about America.
They actually still have ties to where they came from.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I do want to switch.
I want to continue talking about this.
I want to go a little more into some side stories of what's happening, but I want to touch on this, Natalie.
You know, you have a clothing company.
You're trying to do something different.
You're trying to make a difference in the community.
And as we kind of switch topics, I want to give you a second to kind of explain what you've got going on because people want to support you.
People want to support what's going on in the community.
Tell me a little bit about what this clothing company is that you started, specifically, especially for the girls that are listening or guys, if you have a girl, this is a place to get something that they are going to like, that they're going to love.
So tell me a little bit about what this is you started and why you started it.
natalie winters
Well, I just got tired of supporting what is the globalist economic model of outsourcing to China and basically any country along the Belt and Road Initiative.
So I just launched and a lot of the stuff is sold out, but don't worry.
We're doing a new run.
I think I'm actually going back to the factory tomorrow, but everything is made here in the United States.
But I think so many USA-made clothing brands, you have to pay a ridiculous premium.
And with the economy that we're living in now, it's extremely difficult to do that.
And I get that.
So I really worked out a business model that I think makes it so you don't have to pay that premium, but you can still buy USA-made clothing.
It's primarily for women.
It's called shesowright.co, but we did do a limited edition men's run because I kept getting a lot of hateful emails telling me to make products for men.
So I listened as the diligent, subservient woman that I am.
But it's political apparel, but I would say to keep it brief, it's not cringe.
You can actually wear it and not look like some, you know, boomer, for lack of a better word, with some really cringy graphic t-shirt.
But it allows you to show off your values in a sort of subversive and fun way.
So if you guys want to check it out, you can go to shesowright.co and there.
I get the sense I'm in a boys club, which is totally fine by me.
But if you need a good Valentine's Day gift, like I said, it's all USA made or we have a men's line too.
But that is some of the women's stuff there.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And it really is nice and really great quality.
Again, she soright.co.
You can check it out.
They also have stickers.
I guess there is men's, but you can go ahead and you can get anything that you want here.
It is pretty cool.
Honestly, that is pretty freaking cool.
The America.
unidentified
Isn't that fun?
natalie winters
I know.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
I like it.
Even as a guy, I know it's kind of gay, but I totally would put something like that in my lawn just because it's like, how could someone get mad at you, man?
This is a Greta Gerwig style, you know, Barbie stuff, but they also have the dump him signs and bracelets.
So check these out.
And I imagine you guys do international shipping too.
natalie winters
Yeah, we ship everywhere.
It's actually been really fun getting all these orders from countries.
And I was like, I didn't know there is, you know, war room fans there.
But it's been, it's been wild.
And honestly, when you ever you're feeling blackpilled, like this website has really changed my perspective on so many things because the sales and just people who want to, when they are presented with the opportunity to be empowered consumers and buy made in the United States and proclaim their values.
And I think a lot of the kind of philosophy behind the designs is just mocking the elites, the powers that be, the people that want Carrie Lake to drop out of the Senate race, the people who aren't reporting on this story that we're talking about.
So it's always important to, I think, laugh at those people because they hate being laughed at.
elijah schaffer
They do, absolutely.
And I do want to guys remind you to go there.
And we are promoting her because I want to promote companies that are good.
And we even removed one of the ads from today to make sure that we could promote Natalie's store and what she's got going on.
So you should check it out, the shesowright.co.
You should get in there, pick something out, and be with us as we talk about and continue to jump into these stories.
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I'm so happy to have Natalie Winters, the co-host of The War Room with Steve Bannon and also Natalie Carey, commentator and street interviewer.
Ladies, you are here with us today, and we are having a discussion moving into some of the cultural side effects of what's happening in this nation.
You know, it's really bizarre to me.
And I want to talk about the declining nature of our society with DEI.
There's an alarming trend going on with airline companies trying to prove how woke they are while things seem to be literally falling apart.
And I was happy to look at the trend here on TikTok.
Brian, if we can go to my screen here and play this, it's super cute.
All right.
Okay, I know that.
unidentified
All right.
elijah schaffer
Joking aside, some of that footage was actually real.
Going on the decline, because Carrie, we're going to play one of your videos after this in a second.
You know, seeing our country is in decline, seeing things going downhill.
Do you think that the state of affairs in our country, like, you know, planes catching on fire, bolts missing from a Virgin Airlines flight, like bolts just so they had to ground the flight because a passenger noticed there were bolts missing on the wing?
Is this enough to wake people up to voting for Donald Trump?
And I want to say, I want to clarify this, not only voting, because Republicans aren't going to change anything, but pressuring the Republicans to change stuff.
Like, are people going to move to be active and put pressure on the swamp, put pressure on Trump to do this?
Or do you think we're just going to literally keep dying being invaded and, you know, enjoying the slow destruction of our country?
natalie carrey
Yeah, I think people are definitely waking up.
I mean, I have friends who are not into politics at all who have said that they're scared to fly.
So that just shows how much people are being exposed to this stuff, even if they're not super involved in politics.
I think because Elon Musk took over Twitter or X and we're able to talk about these things, we have that free speech just on that platform.
I mean, arguably some people have been censored, I know, but it allows these stories to circulate.
So normal people are hearing these things.
And it really does surprise me.
But I do think that when they control, you know, Hollywood, they control education, people really do get indoctrinated.
So it's a really hard battle because we are going up against the most powerful institutions to ever exist.
But we do have X and we do keep sharing these stories.
And I think people are waking up.
Like I've said, I go to Venice Beach, California, and people are pro-Trump.
And this is such a liberal area.
So I think as long as we keep, you know, telling these stories and we keep talking about what's going on and we don't back down and we have leaders like Greg Abbott protecting the border, all we need to do is we just need to keep pushing.
And I don't know if it will be enough to turn the tide, but it's all we can do.
And I think we do need to keep pushing.
And I think that we're actually stronger than we realize.
People are waking up.
People do care.
And I think that the gig is up.
I think people are, they're waking up.
elijah schaffer
Winters.
natalie winters
I think diversity, equity, and inclusion, or if you want to, you know, throw feminism in there, any of these, even like OnlyFans in a way, I think they're all sort of forms of like cultural pyramid schemes.
And I know that might sound confusing, but in other words, like they try to get all the average people to buy into it.
And then, you know, you recruit all your friends to believe the same cultish ideology that you do.
Otherwise, they're going to scare you.
They'll, you know, tar and feather you as a racist or a sexist or homophobe or whatever.
But I feel like we've sort of all the while, the top 1%, the elites, you know, when the Delta flight, when the wings flying off, it does affect them because they have their private jets and they're making more money off this DEI scam.
But I feel like we've sort of hit the point where it's like everyone's now looking around and it's like, wait, I don't actually care if you call me a racist because you've already used that entire name and every name in the book.
And I think the evidence that this DEI stuff, the racism attacks like are not as effective anymore.
And this may be a little conspiratorial, but I feel like they used to always roll out the BLM riots like right before election season, right?
George Floyd is a perfect example of that or any really BLM riot or, you know, a Trayvon type situation to like get out the vote, always to help Democrats.
And it seems like they know that that stuff doesn't really even work anymore.
Believe me, I'm sure there will be stuff like that before 2024.
But I think they've even sort of pivoted from that now.
And I think the route that they are going more to influence elections has to do with pandemics and public health and like climate change lockdowns, disease X, this pandemic treaty.
So again, maybe some people may disagree with me, but I think they realize that that trope, the, you know, oh, blah, blah, blah is the racist, it kind of has lost its political punch.
So I think that's why you see a shift in a lot of ways.
elijah schaffer
Well, and let's talk about men for a second in comparison to this, because, you know, it really, there's really no better country to describe a lack of men than Australia and not lacking masculine men in terms of looking, right?
Australia's got some of the best looking people in the entire world.
It is one of the most difficult places.
If you are a girl and if you're an eight in America, you are like a five here, meaning these women are, something is just bizarre about them.
Something is definitely strange.
And I think one of the main things that we got to look at here is not only what's going on with men, but particularly what's going on with the weakening of men.
And no better question I can derive with is the idea of would you sleep with a whatever with a transsexual.
And this is a really interesting question because a tranny is a is a dude with tits and or as I call them, you know, a mangled penis, also known as a dussy or a designer pussy, for those that like to know.
And it's pretty gross.
It smells.
And I know you girls know because you've been on a lot of shows.
If they don't take their hormones, they start growing hair on the inner cavities of their inverted penises and they can even grow teeth and tumors in the inside.
So yeah, it's disgusting.
And if you want to throw up, join the party.
But Natalie went out and she spoke to people about this.
And to me, more than DEI and everything, these kind of questions give me a better litmus test of what's happening in the nation.
Like if dudes are trying to have sex with trannies, then I like don't understand.
And it's also with this too is, okay, so then she's a 10, but she has an OnlyFans.
It's like even more degrading than that is okay.
Does she have, does she make porn and does that make her hotter?
So, you know, on our last episode, people were talking about transnians.
Now we're talking about OnlyFans.
And do guys like girls who sell their vaginas for $2.99 a month?
Well, you wouldn't think so.
Or maybe you would.
Let's go ahead and let's watch this.
This is absolutely insane.
I love these questions, Natalie.
Thank you so much for asking these.
Here's what they had to say.
natalie carrey
She's a 10, but she has an OnlyFans.
unidentified
Sweet.
elijah schaffer
Might make her a 12.
She's an entrepreneur.
unidentified
She'll still be a 10.
Well, she's proven herself to be an asset.
So who am I to argue with that?
She's a one.
natalie carrey
A one?
unidentified
Yeah.
How come?
She's basically selling herself to the public and she's not, she's not datable material.
I think that it's a woman's body and she should decide what she wants to do with it.
So shit, girl, let's let your coochie fly.
He kind of said it was a little rude, but I mean, I go probably go with a 12 because then she's going to be bringing me some bread.
elijah schaffer
Would you date her?
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Okay.
Can we just go, Carrie?
Let's break down a couple of these people.
I want to go with you girls one by one.
Let's start with this guy here.
This guy says it would be a, she'd be a 12, right?
He's really into this.
He's got a beer gut.
I mean, he's masked.
He's masculine looking.
What do you think about that?
With guys saying, you know, Carrie, that they think it would be hotter if a girl had an OnlyFans.
Like, what does this tell you about men today?
And do you think that this is a good, a good trend?
natalie carrey
Yeah.
That actually like really surprised me when you said that.
I was like, whoa, what?
Because I think he was the first one that I actually interviewed.
And then he was like, oh, she's an entrepreneur.
And I was like, well, that's a stretch, but okay.
And but I kept getting that response.
Like the next guy was like, oh, she's proven herself to be an asset.
And all these people are like, well, she's making her bread.
And like I said, I interview more people than actually made the clip.
And a lot of people said that.
And I actually interviewed some girls.
And the girls were like, well, guys are looking at that stuff for free.
So you may as well make money.
So it's, it's just crazy to me because women have intern internalized this idea that, you know, as long as you're making a few bucks, you're actually empowered, even though at the end of the day, you're still just getting naked for money.
It's basically prostitution.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, Winters, what do you think about that?
I want to break down this video entirely, but guys who are saying it's hotter if a girl has an OnlyFans, what does it tell you about our time and men?
I mean, I mean, I trust you are both very much real women can verify that hiding nothing in the pants.
It's going to surprise anyone.
So, you know, as a biological woman, which is increasingly rare today, a dude says he finds that hot if you made porn.
What do you, what are your thoughts on that?
natalie winters
It's absolutely repulsive and disgusting, but I think a sign of the times, at least on the gender front.
And honestly, I think OnlyFans is probably the greatest modern example of how marketing, really deceptive marketing, can just launch a company and really destroy a culture.
Even the term OnlyFans, like these girls, like you said, who are selling pictures of God knows what to who knows who, God knows where for like $3 a month, that they think that that is empowering.
They're not fans.
These people aren't models, right?
They don't have contracts with actual legitimate agencies like IMG or Wilhelmina.
Maybe they have some weird pimp, but they're not models.
These people aren't fans.
It's this deranged form of social interaction that is, I guess, I mean, it's prostitution, but I think it's a weird like digital version of it that's even more predicated on antisocial behavior.
But I think the lie of it is that it's empowering to women, which is just the logical conclusion, I think, of modern day feminism, which I think views men essentially as nothing to actually be a protector or a force of good in your life, but just an evil, controlling, dominating force.
So there's this perversive ability to get off on you being in control, right?
Men paying you, sort of seeking their validation.
And honestly, I think when it comes to OnlyFans, to go back to that marketing stuff that I was talking about, like OnlyFans loves the narrative that when women sign up for their platform, that you could just start making bank.
Like every single one of them, right?
They say entrepreneur.
The other one says, oh, she's going to make a bunch of money.
Statistically, that's not true.
The average OnlyFan, OnlyFans creator owns, what is it, $130, $150 a month?
That's maybe the living wage in like Kinshasa and the Congo, maybe.
And it's just a lie.
But I think these people are so dumb that they feel the need to regurgitate that narrative.
And they think maybe it makes them more masculine.
But this OnlyFans issue is something that I think is so disgusting.
And every young girl who goes on, whether it's the whatever podcast or whatever form of media, as the OnlyFans are, and I'm going on that show next month, but OnlyFan stars, the women who act like they make a ton of money off of it, they are grooming young girls into a life of destroying their reputation in exchange for next to nothing.
If not some cases, you'll lose money.
And these useful idiot men are buying into that, you know, girl boss narrative that's just a lie.
That's just making the Ukrainian owner of OnlyFans over $1 million a day in dividends.
elijah schaffer
Hey, well, we have people working in conservative media today who just a couple of years were selling their nudes to, even some of them are selling nudes to minors.
And, you know, they just rub those things under the table.
And I mean, it's genuine, like it's, it's a permeating thing that's gone all over and no one seems to care about it.
And that's what I mean is like, as guys, we do wrong things and we get held accountable.
And for girls, it's like, hey, you know, men are born at the bottom of a mountain.
Women are born at the top.
And women are born with their body and their sanctity and men are born with nothing.
We have to fight our way and we have to earn everything, but women need to protect what they have.
And so when you sell your body like that, you really do lose a lot.
And men are like, well, it doesn't really matter if, you know, so-and-so or whatever, you know, used to sell their pictures to people.
Who cares if minors bought them and stuff?
And there's this sort of passe that withholds accountability from females for this.
And really, that just comes from simps.
It comes from white knights.
It's these masturbatory, obsessed men who could not think of life outside of their IPAs, sports ball, and ejaculating to digital images of women they've never met and never could be with.
And it's really kind of a disgusting and sad state of affairs.
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We're talking today about girls with only fans and the state of relationships.
Carrie, do you know this person on the screen right here?
The guy was saying, Hey, I don't think that you're datable, but dude, the dude was wearing, you know, cargo shorts with camo on them and a graphic tee.
So I don't think he's much one to really be, you know, talking a lot.
And that's a problem with a lot of men is they talk a lot of shit.
They watch a lot of podcasts, but in their own life, they don't dress well.
They don't take care of themselves.
They don't make a lot of money.
And I'm being serious.
They just, you know, they, you know, they say, we need to control women.
And it's like, you can't even control how many French fries you eat at night.
So I don't know what you really think you're controlling, sir.
Was this a daughter and a father?
Was this boyfriend and girlfriend, a husband and wife?
Here on my screen, we can bring this up.
What was going on here?
And why was he so adamant to say that a girl, you know, is unattractive if she hasn't OnlyFans?
And then this other girl was so defensive of like basically supporting.
I think she mentioned selling her coochie, which is pretty weird.
unidentified
So what was happening?
natalie carrey
Yes, they did say they were together.
I asked, but I actually, I liked his opinion.
He said, you know, she's the one.
But his reasoning was really good.
He was like, you're selling your photos to the public and basically implying that, you know, that should just be between you and, you know, your partner.
You shouldn't be selling naked pictures of yourself online.
And I just thought it was so funny because the one guy who was standing up for the dignity of women and saying, saying, no, if you do that while you're in a relationship, it's not going to work.
You can't be in a relationship and be posting or selling naked pictures of yourself.
Then the girl who has like this internalized feminism speaks up and she just totally undermines what he's saying, right?
The one guy who's standing up for women is like, well, if she wants to do it, she should be able to do it.
And that should be empowering for her.
And in my mind, I was like, you have a good guy here.
This guy doesn't want you selling pictures of yourself.
He actually sees something wrong with that versus these other guys who are like, heck yeah, as long as it makes me money.
You know, this guy wants a relationship.
He wants stability.
He wants commitment.
And he's just totally undermined by this woman who has it just been ingrained in her head that selling naked pictures of herself is somehow empowering.
So she'd rather undermine the relationship and this good guy that she has just for the sake of what being like, it's my body, my choice.
Yeah, it was really disheartening.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, Winters, what do you think about that in the dating?
I mean, that's a real, that's a real concern.
You're in Los Angeles.
I'm from Hollywood.
And, you know, you have a lot of people out there who are trying to date.
And people ride off California.
They ride off DC, not knowing there are actually more conservatives in California than there are in any other state in the union.
And people just go, well, there's no, you know, there's no conservatives.
No, there's millions.
There's like over 10 million.
And so, you know, people are trying to date, but then you're, you know, you're meeting all these retards for a lack of better words.
I mean, you know, this guy's dating a girl who thinks it's okay to sell your, you know, I think that's her or her coochie online.
I mean, is that as Christians or as conservatives, as people who are right-wing, is that congruent?
Can we really be going out?
Should guys be dating girls that believe that?
I mean, is that something that we can unite on, even if we're, she's not selling hers?
If she thinks that that's good, is that a red flag?
natalie winters
I think that's probably the largest red flag, not just if you have a girl who's secretly selling pictures of herself online, but if she's willing to kind of disagree with you publicly, the way she almost kind of mocks him, like, what are you saying?
How could you say that?
But again, like I said, I think this is the logical conclusion and really reification of modern day man-hating feminism, where we've taken men off their pedestals.
And I think rightfully so, of being protectors, you know, not just because they can protect your house and, you know, fend off invaders.
You know, that's like a more, I think, archaic kind of interpretation of it.
But I think there's something really unique and biblical too, to the relationship between a man and a woman.
And I think that we see a variety of cultural forces, OnlyFans, I think, being a very prevalent one of them.
But I also think just the radical gender ideology stuff, even like the plus size movement stuff, just being told that what we see as our as our truth, because we say truth is subjective.
It's not.
It's objective.
There's one truth.
And I think that, again, an issue that is, it's not complex.
If you sell news, if you sell pornographic videos of yourself online, it's degenerate.
It makes you a whore.
I'll say that.
I know I would never use that word on air, but it's true.
And the fact that there's any like gray area debate about it and that men think it's like funny to joke about it really just shows you how far this society, this culture has fallen on the gender front.
And I think all this stuff works together to, I think more broadly, probably just, I think it's about going after the nuclear family, to be honest.
And I think things like OnlyFans are the perfect cudgel to really destroy that both theoretically, but also pragmatically.
But I think that's what feminism is about.
Transgenderism is about, all to really bring in, I think, again, I know it's a boomer to say communism or socialism, but they've always gone after the family system.
They've always gone after nuclear families.
And I think that this is sort of the like 21st century modern kind of internet form, really information warfare that they've sort of now deputized to really launch a crusade on that front.
elijah schaffer
Right.
And, you know, and I want to play this other video from you, Carrie, to get your guys' opinion on this, you know, going down.
But, you know, it seems like black people are like are totally our lost friend because you can really see what the communists have done to the community and reminding people that, you know, whether we're talking about Zionists or globalists or elitists or communists, these are people who don't look out for our interests.
So even if you are a Mexican nationalist and you are interfering, everybody's at stake.
And this is why I always talk about fighting for diverse white supremacy.
It's my joke on the show because everything that they disagree with is white supremacy.
And I would say Hitler would be really mad at us finding out that like the most strong nationalist people, a lot of them are not actually white.
And that's unfortunate.
It's the most diverse white supremacist movement in all of history.
It's the most intersex-based sexist movement.
I love it.
It's absolutely amazing.
And it's the most, they say, oh, it's just Americans.
It's the most international American movement.
We see that rising in Argentina, rising in Germany, rising in Brazil even as a counter revolution in France with Le Pen.
I mean, people like to call it white supremacy.
They like to call it American, you know, southern racism.
But truly, truly, these people have attacked and denigrated every community, including the black community has been, has suffered greatly.
They've been conquered.
The white community is being conquered.
Blacks were conquered completely by these people who have just put the worst out there.
And a lot of them are waking up, okay?
A lot of them are waking up.
We're not talking about Jason Whitlock, wife, who ought to apologize for having an honest conversation publicly.
I don't know why, but these brothers.
These brothers did not fuck around.
And when they were asked a straight up question about whether they was gay, they said, no way.
Natalie Carey interviewed them on the streets.
Let's talk about the state of everybody waking up and how we can unify going forward into the election based moving past divisive topics.
Here we go.
Let's watch this.
natalie carrey
She's a 10, but she's transgender.
unidentified
I'm not in it.
Hell no.
natalie carrey
So what is she then?
unidentified
Megative.
One man's a man.
She's a goddamn man.
I ain't love in the world.
I don't do transmissions.
natalie carrey
She's a 10, but she's transgender.
elijah schaffer
All right.
Let's, I want to end on this topic here of discussion as well.
We'll do a wrap up at the end before the Q ⁇ A right here.
But Carrie, I'm going to you.
It's like, you know, as much as I love joking online, I love, I know that we need to be fighting.
You know, we need to be fighting for the white community.
We need to be fighting for men.
We need to be fighting for people that are picked on, especially children who are being targeted.
We also need to remember, too, that in our country, there's a lot of people who have been targeted.
And it is a really unfortunate thing, but the black community has been targeted.
Women are being targeted with the transgender ideology, right?
Replacing them in a lot of different factors, even in the home.
Gay couples using IVF and renting out wombs.
It's just getting really bizarre.
Even if you don't disagree with those things, at least admit they're strange.
Do you see on the streets that people, there is a genuine unity factor, that people can get behind something, someone like Trump, that maybe the idea of seeing that we have a common enemy, that there are globalists, there are these people out there that are trying to destroy our communities.
Do you see that out there?
Or are we as divided as Twitter now known as X makes us think that we're all just in our own echo chambers and there's no coming together?
What's your thoughts from talking to the real people out in the real world about unifying going into the election?
natalie carrey
Yeah, like I said, I've interviewed so many people and so many people of all demographics are pro-Trump.
I mean, I've met gay people, black people, Hispanic people, everyone that are very much pro-Trump.
And I think that what you're seeing in that video, the black guys speaking so candidly, is what everybody's thinking.
However, white people have basically been bullied into believing that they can't actually speak their mind because they're oppressors, right?
So they've been bullied into thinking that if they say something, the same exact thing that those black guys said, they'll get labeled as a bigot or transphobic or whatever.
But the black community, because they've been, you know, portrayed as this victim class, they just speak their mind freely.
So yeah, I think there is a lot more unity.
It's really just what are people, what do people think they're socially allowed to say?
And I wish that more white people would just speak their mind and not worry so much about being bullied or being called a name.
Like Natalie was saying earlier, they called us racist so many times that it just doesn't mean anything anymore.
And I think as more people wake up to that and they see the world like devolving into utter chaos, they're going to be more inclined to just speak their mind freely.
At least I hope so.
elijah schaffer
And Winters, what do you think about that?
I mean, I mean, let's say do a real, a real path forward.
I think people, people think, and I want to clarify this, because you're pro-white does not mean you are anti-black.
Because you are pro-helping women does not mean that you, I mean, pro-men does not mean you are against helping women.
Just because you are pro-family doesn't mean you care about the single, don't care about the single person.
Like people have tried to demonize these things.
And I think the black community, even myself, you know, on one hand, they don't get enough accountability, you know, like you saw in England where the man was let go on a manslaughter charge because of his race, even though he intentionally murdered three people.
But on the other hand, there are a ton of black people who do agree with you and I who do are on our level.
You meet them and they're just as sick of the violence and the pandering and they want to be, they want these people out.
They're done with them destroying their community.
Do you think that we can unify going in?
Can we get enough of the vote?
Can we unify with the female vote, with the black vote?
Are we really going to be able to get together and make this happen?
Or do you think that the division has gone a little too far?
natalie winters
Well, I don't like to peddle false optimism or cope.
I do think that probably number one thing you always hear on any form of conservative or alternative media is lamenting about how the left controls the culture.
And that obviously is axiomatic.
That is true.
So I don't know.
I don't know what the answer is.
But I do think in these isolated kind of anecdotal experiences, it seems like people, when confronted, like don't want to sleep with transgenders, don't want to, I think that one guy with the girlfriend don't want to have their girlfriends on OnlyFans.
But I don't know, on the other hand, demographically, the trajectory for this country does not look too great.
I would say from an IQ perspective, the trajectory, even in a hype perspective, it doesn't look too great.
So I don't know.
I think we're up against a lot of evil forces.
And I think what we're really going to see is it play out between true patriotic Americans, the grassroots types, and the powers that be who make no mistake use the black community as sort of their front line of soldiers, use minorities.
You know, that, of course, everyone knows that they do that.
So I don't know.
I think maybe what I look to for optimism is the revolutionary war because we've gone up against larger enemies than one with the spirit of just being patriotic, red-blooded Americans.
But I'm not, I'm not sure.
And sorry to end on a sour note, but I don't, I don't know.
elijah schaffer
No, no, you're not.
And I, and I do want to say this.
I was trying to be sensitive to, because I know I've worked in media for a long time.
So I try to be sensitive to people's audiences.
And I don't want to get you in trouble with Bannon, but we're really honest on this podcast, very, very honest about the reality of both the state foreign intervention, the neocon right that sold this out, the over-obsession of escalating wars in Israel and Ukraine.
I mean, it is, we've had enough and black crime, especially.
White people are getting shit on everywhere.
And it's really, really unfortunate.
But, you know, it's like people care about Asians.
Oh, they're getting discriminated against in colleges.
I care about that too.
But also I care about white people being discriminated against in colleges and no one talks about that.
It's like, well, everyone's really mad about, you know, Israelis feeling unsafe on college campuses.
Well, I'm really sick and tired of that.
I don't think they should feel unsafe.
I agree.
But also it's been decades since white people have been called literal terrorists on campus.
And so like, yeah, I can care about all these other issues, but at the same time, it's like, you know, it's all transgenders are getting in the way of women's sports.
And you're like, well, I've been talking about the roles of women.
And, you know, we've been talking about these things for a long time.
And maybe women's ultimate goals are not to be in sports.
And maybe we should look at the reality of the fact that nobody did care about women.
It was all about anti-men destroying the family.
And the moment they don't need women anymore and they want to destroy women, they're doing that too.
So maybe you should have listened to us and we said they never cared about women's sports.
They never cared about liberating women.
They just gave women sports and funding because they needed, they didn't have the reason to destroy it yet.
And so these people are sick.
They're evil.
They're demons.
They're demonic.
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To finish up here with our QA, before I let my guests plug themselves and we head out for the night, I do want to look and see if we have any more.
I don't know, Brian, if we had any more super chats.
We did read the one that went on from our guests, but we do have a few from the locals community who sent them in.
Brian, if you go to my page, one of you guys said here, nice eyebrows E looks better than the last time for sure.
Yeah, this was the time that they made me look like a drag queen on set at Blaze.
We remember that.
That was horrible.
unidentified
Yeah, do I not look a dragon look like you?
natalie carrey
That's what I was thinking.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
natalie winters
That's seriously you.
elijah schaffer
This is so sad when like nice girls are like, holy shit.
You're like, yeah.
All right.
You know what's funny, though?
When I get back to the States in June, I'm opening up a studio there.
So I'll have to have you girls out in person.
I prefer guests in person anyways.
natalie winters
Only if you promise to not wear that makeup.
natalie carrey
We'll do your makeup.
elijah schaffer
It was so bad.
Mermaid American said, when the story is about Israeli agents bring a chemical weapon and she immediately pivots to Palestine, bad lol.
Israel, thank you for your service.
No, she didn't.
I don't know.
You want to add to that one there?
I don't think, you know, I think you said that Guardian typically is pro, which I agreed with as well.
natalie winters
And I don't think I don't even think it's necessarily that they're pro-Israel.
I think it's just in that oppressor versus oppressed dichotomy that those types view everything through that they take because again, I am aware of where a lot of their funding comes from.
Like I'm just saying, I think it's more nuanced than just, oh, they're anti-Israel.
Like there's a lot of layers to it.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I agree with that too.
I think I just try to be fair.
Like I said, I, you know, to friends who are a lot of people are anti-Zionists that are my friends.
And I'm not very pro-Zionist myself, but I think that a lot of the blind spot, there's both sides, the pro-Zionist and pro-Palestinian have a lot of blind spots.
And I think in this case, the enemy of your enemy may not be your friend.
So look, if you disagree with Zionism, that's fine, but that does not mean these pro-Palestinian protesters are your friends.
And I remind people, these are the BLM people.
These are people who disagree with you.
And my best example of that is in Germany right now, the AFD party, which makes up about 20%, 24%, 20% to 24%.
It's Germany's last hope for a true restoration of power.
The The Muslim and Jewish associations have united to try to outlaw the pro-white, pro-Christian, pro-family party.
That's like a quarter.
This isn't a fringe group.
This is like a quarter of the nation, right?
They're trying to outlaw it.
And so I'll tell you this.
I just don't think that these groups care about the countries.
I think that like any group, they have foreign interests.
I think Muslims have foreign interests.
I think Zionists have foreign interests.
And I don't knock them for it.
Because even though I'm your friend and we're on a show, I'm going to look out for my family first.
Ultimately, my wife, my son matter more than you girls, because that's my family.
And no one's going to give me shit for caring about my family over people that are not.
And so I don't give them shit for caring more about Israelis or caring more about Islam.
But that's what I just want people to be aware of.
That's what's scary when we break up the ethos of a nation is that it doesn't mean all Jews are bad, all Muslims are bad.
But it does mean that when you break up a country into a lot of special interests, oftentimes you end up with a very divisive society, which is what communism does.
It brings division into a nation.
And so it's very important that we're not going after niche ideas.
You won't hear that a lot on mainstream conservative sites.
And then on the fringe, on fringe conservative, it's mostly just like really anti-Jew, anti-Israel.
And you don't hear a balanced perspective either.
So I try to keep it in the middle and keep it balanced just to bring that in the force.
Anyway, I kind of turn it to her, whatever his name is, said top eight.
It's fucking go time.
Thank you so much to you girls who were on here, Natalie Winters from the War Room and Natalie Carey commentator.
Natalie Winters, go ahead and plug yourself and your store one last time.
Tell us where we can find you, where we can follow you.
It was such a blessing having both of you ladies on.
I'll be happy to have you on again whenever you'd like, and especially when it comes to breaking news.
And I'll see you out on the field, I'm sure, sometime at Mar-a-Lago.
Natalie Winters, go ahead and let us know how we can find you, how we can support you and follow you.
natalie winters
Of course.
Thank you so much for having me.
You can follow me at Natalie G. Winters on all platforms and you can follow the USA made clothing brand shop.
She's so right on all platforms.
And it's shesoright.co.
And thank you again for having me.
elijah schaffer
Yes, and you can check it out there.
And Natalie Carey.
natalie carrey
Yeah, thank you for having me also, Elijah.
You can find me on Twitter or X and Instagram and all the platforms at Natalie Carey, C-A-R-E-Y, and then two underscores.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you can see her there, Natalie Carey.
She is on X.
And then I actually should take, if you could take that off the screen, Brian, real fast.
You can see her there, Natalie Carey underscore.
And then let me put on the screen as well for Natalie Winters here.
You can also follow Natalie here on X and go to my screen.
Here she is here, Natalie G. Winters.
You can find it right here and go ahead and follow her on X. You guys should keep up with them.
Make sure that you hit the notifications here for both of them.
I don't have it notified because I do not fucking need more notifications.
Anyway, thank you so much to both of Natalie's for joining.
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Have a great rest of the week.
As always, my name is Elijah Schaefer and may God bless the United States of America.
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