Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer - H*E or HOUSEWIFE? What makes women VALUABLE? | Guest: Aly Drummond

March 9, 2023 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer

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H*E or HOUSEWIFE? What makes women VALUABLE? | Guest: Aly Drummond | Ep 321

Modern women are an absolute MESS. Everyone’s a hoe until the age 30, where they finally settle down and decide that they want a strong responsible man.Show more Today, Elijah is joined by Aly Drummond to discuss modern dating and marriage. They also discuss what men and women should be looking for and what the possible solutions are. All this is discussed and more, on today’s Slightly Offensive… ________________________________________________________________ I'm now fully INDEPENDENT so JOIN the mission at https://elijahschaffer.locals.com/ You won't regret it! ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ SUPPORT THE SPONSORS ⇩ PIXOTINE: Get these amazing "No-Mess" nicotine toothpicks in amazing flavors right now 20% off when you visit https://pixotine.com/elijah. Try them all or buy some for a friend, they'll thank you later because they're are basically no restrictions on where you can use them! Be 21 or older to check them out BLACK FOREST: It seems that everything in modern society is used to attack masculinity, testosterone, fertility, and anything else that makes men, men. From microplastics to estrogen in the water, it's almost unavoidable. However, with Black Forest Supplement's 95% purity Turkesterone you can gain muscle, strength, and cure your libido with just one pill. This ultra high-purity capsule can be bought with a 20% DISCOUNT when you use THIS LINK: https://www.blackforestsupplements.com/elijah ________________________________________________________________ ⇩ FOLLOW ALY YOUTUBE: https://www.youtube.com/@RealFemSapien TWITTER: https://twitter.com/realfemsapien INSTA: https://www.instagram.com/realfemsapien/ ________________________________________________________________ Slightly Offens*ve Merch: https://slightlyoffensive.com/shop/ ________________________________________________________________ DOWNLOAD AUDIO PODCAST & GIVE A 5 STAR RATING!: APPLE: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... SPOTIFY: https://open.spotify.com/show/7jbVobnHs7q8pSRCtPmC41 (also available Google Podcasts & wherever else podcasts are streamed) _________________________________________________________________ ⇩ SOCIAL MEDIA ⇩ ➤ INSTAGRAM https://www.instagram.com/slightlyoffensive ➤ TWITTER: https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer ➤ FACEBOOK: https://www.facebook.com/officialslightlyoffensive _________________________________________________________________ Show less

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	We're going to play a little game of would you rather.
	So would you rather have this girl?
	She's nice.
	She's beautiful.
	She loves you.
	She loves your personality.
	But that's what you get.
	She's got a cross on her neck.
	Or would you prefer to have this girl?
	She doesn't love you that much.
	She doesn't really care about you.
	She has an okay personality.
	But she looks like that.
	That's the question that men have today.
	What kind of women should we be choosing to be with?
	And what brings a value to that woman?
	Is it her looks alone?
	As girls say, all men want today is pussy.
	But as we found out on the whatever podcast, which my guest was on recently, maybe all men want is pussies because that's all women have to offer.
	So what should women be offering and what men should be, or what should men actually be looking for?
	My guest today is Ali Drummond.
	She's a housewife as well as a podcaster.
	Welcome to Slightly Offensive for the First Time.
	Ah, yes, I can see.
	Very offensive so far.
	Very excited to talk.
	But I'm prior service military, so I am not horribly offended.
	No.
	And the ironic part, though, when you look at these questionings of what makes a woman valuable and you look at the status, I think nothing really brings into question more the current state of humanity than the fact that we are in a dilemma as men.
	We are in a dilemma as a society and women are in the dilemma is how do you be happy?
	And do you become this girl on the left, the traditional girl?
	Do you wear a dress?
	Do you learn how to cook?
	And can you compete in the age of social media where, unfortunately for the guys, the woman on the right is the one who's getting all the action.
	She's getting all the men's attention.
	And in 2023, that's actually artificial intelligence.
	That's not even a real, the real human being.
	It's difficult to know who to be.
	And it feels like, and this might be offensive, but it seems like you've gone between the two, that you've had to choose a little bit.
	So I kind of want to jump right into this on what brings the value to a woman.
	You're now married, right?
	Yep.
	I just had my one-year anniversary and I'm getting ready to have a baby in a couple of months here.
	Very excited.
	Congratulations.
	So my question to you as we jump into this is what actually brings the value to a woman?
	Like, do hoes hold any value?
	Unfortunately, yes, they actually do.
	You know, not to men who are forward-projecting thinkers, but the reality is, is that there are so many sexless men out there that these women get wifed up all the time.
	But it's about the kind of man that will wife them up.
	And that's a different question because a lot of women have this assumption that there's always going to be some guy around the corner.
	And I don't dispute that.
	But is he going to be a masculine man who is capable of being a leader of your household that you're attracted to?
	And I would argue that the majority of married women, for the few that even get married, I would argue that the majority of married women are married to men that they're not attracted to and they don't look up to.
	Why do you say that they don't look up to or they're not attracted to them?
	I just get too many DMs.
	I get a lot of DMs from men.
	I get a lot of DMs from women.
	I get DMs from religious folks.
	I get DMs from Christian conservatives.
	I've also, I also am familiar with Christian conservatives in real life.
	I live in the Midwest.
	Infidelity is common in a lot of marriages, but I find that the wives that are the best behaved with the best demeanor, they tend to be attracted to their husbands because I also interview wives on my YouTube channel that have been married much longer than myself.
	I don't have all the answers.
	I've only been married a year, so technically I'm still newlywed.
	But I realized when I would ask the women on my podcasts, I have a criteria for the women that I interview.
	They have to light up when I ask them about their husband.
	If they don't light up, if they don't smile, then I don't trust their opinion.
	So I asked them about dead bedroom questions, and a lot of them were confused.
	They didn't understand because they'll have a baby, but they'll go and they'll chase their husband immediately after.
	They can't wait to have sex with their husband again.
	So I came to the conclusion that the majority of women are simply married to men that they're not attracted to.
	That's where I'm at.
	But do they have to be attracted to them?
	Because this is kind of an interesting, an interesting position.
	And we're going to jump down into a long line of questioning to try to understand what makes a woman valuable, what makes a marriage successful.
	And of course, on the flip side, what makes a man valuable and a man successful in his marriage?
	But first, I'm just going to add one here to the editors, and then I'm just going to jump back in here.
	So, Allie, so women are out of control, obviously.
	I mean, at this point, I don't even know if women know that they need men.
	I don't even know if they want men, right?
	We see tweets like this every day from someone named Kayla Johnson, ATL says, for Women's History Month, I'm so grateful to be reminded that we don't need men anymore to survive.
	And nothing says you're confident in your understanding and opinion about men by needing to voice it and repeat it and put it online, right?
	We don't need them to vote.
	We don't need them to own property, to make money, to work, to have a family.
	We get to wait until we find someone we adore who is worthy of us choosing to share our lives with.
	I just want to say this.
	When did women become so damn cocky?
	And is there any hope that we can possibly humble them back into realizing that they are out of their fucking minds?
	I think so.
	I think that we just have to wait for the wave of single and childless women that's going to hit the nursing homes that are not going to have men or children advocating for them or their safety.
	But it's going to take probably 50 years for us to see something like that.
	But I think it's going to be an unprecedented time that we've never seen this amount of women who are single and childless.
	We're going to have to fund them.
	Taxpayers are going to have to fund them.
	And I'm not sure that our society is built for that.
	Yeah.
	No, and I don't understand this cockiness, though, because it really confuses me why we've ended up in a competitive society to where the conclusion that men and women have, as you see constantly on TikTok, et cetera, is that we don't really need each other when the entire foundation of society, the entire future of our species depends on procreation.
	And that's the most fundamental understanding.
	We need each other to exist.
	Our future existence relies on our dependency and not just to have sex and to create life, but to take care of life, to raise life, as we're seeing the fundamental problem in Western society is that we are not taking care of our young.
	We are not raising them correctly.
	We are not bringing them up.
	And so let's just start with the basic fundamental of virginity, okay?
	Before we even look at stats, do you think that in order to have a successful marriage that virginity is the most important factor towards a successful marriage?
	And if yes, or if not, how important is it?
	I wouldn't say that it's the most important, but it would be the biggest thing that I would recommend for both men and women, although men get looked at a little bit differently.
	But if we're taking the Christian conservative route, those folks typically get married between the ages of 18 and 24, and they get married to each other within their age group fairly quickly.
	But when you look at marital satisfaction reports, this is how you can tell women are always a little bit more miserable than men.
	The virgin husbands will rate a higher marital satisfaction than the women.
	However, the women who did save themselves for marriage rate marital satisfaction highest out of multiple demographics.
	So I think it is a very important factor.
	It's obviously something that I would promote to my own daughter just because it's less baggage to walk into a marriage with to begin with.
	But aside from that, I also think that it's a bad heuristic.
	Like I said, I get DMs and there are men who married who they thought was the perfect virgin waifu and she turns out to be secretly evil behind the scenes because there isn't that much of a difference in my opinion between conservative women and liberal women if you look at how they behave sometimes because there's plenty of conservative women that I think they're using that as a mating strategy so that they can get security from men,
	whereas they know they wouldn't be able to get possibly that same amount of security from a liberal man.
	So I think that we're all just kind of strategic in how we're trying to mate these days and we'll do anything to get it.
	There's lots of women that reach that epiphany phase and they'll pivot very quickly into the long prairie dresses and the long hair and finally they find the Lord, which is their prerogative.
	I'm not going to complain about somebody finding Jesus.
	That's awesome and amazing.
	But it is a little bit suspicious when it seems to happen within a very specific age range.
	And these women could be settling down younger.
	So I just don't find that there's a secret code to women.
	I think women are just women.
	Okay, well, to kind of disagree, I do agree on the first part that a lot of women tend to find God at 29 to 31 years old and they tend to be in this position where they want to become spiritually virgins again.
	And I fully support Christianity and I love the fact that it is attractive to the sinner, right?
	I like the fact that the kingdom of God wasn't meant to be given to the high, the lofty, the noble, the rich.
	It's to those who feel broken, who need God and those who want him.
	But it can also be used as an excuse to fair enough of like, okay, I'll just be a hoe till I'm 29.
	And then when I need to be cleansed by God, I can be renewed.
	And before we even jump into the next part of this, I want to read some stats here because from what I've seen, and maybe you've seen differently, it looks like only 5% of women who get married are virgins upon marriage, sometimes as low as 3%, depending on the, if you take out disabled people and you take out, you know, even when you take out people who are first generation immigrants, because a lot of times they have a different culture, different religion.
	And so there's actually a whole different standard, especially Islamic immigrants.
	But what I've looked here is that virginity is the greatest factor that actually decides not if a woman's satisfied in her marriage, but a proclivity towards not getting divorced, which I think is much different to wager divorce versus satisfaction.
	But I've seen that it's, according to the CDC, 75% of girls are still virgins by the 10th grade.
	So by 15 years old, one in four American girls have already had sexual intercourse and or have been penetrated either illegally or legally.
	By the end of 12th grade, they said only 40% of girls are virgins.
	And by the end of the year 24, which is at the end of either their bachelor's or their grad school, which is becoming the standard, only 12.3% of women are virgins.
	So virginity, while being one of the key factors, appears to be one of the most rare factors in women.
	And maybe, in my opinion, one of the reasons why we minimize it, because it's almost like a non-grotto factor.
	It's like there's so few women that are actually virgins.
	It's not really something to consider for most people, considering the fact that by the time a woman is going to get married in our culture, 24 to 29 years old, she's all, she only has a 12% chance.
	And actually, I take that back.
	I think 31 is the average age of marriage now, or 30 or something like that.
	So there's like a 7% chance or 6% chance she's a virgin.
	My point is, should we even be worried about this anymore?
	Is this alarming to you that women are no longer virgins when they're getting married?
	And is this a huge contributing reason why marriages aren't working out?
	This is why I said I think that a lot of women marry men that they're not attracted to because I think, honestly, it comes down to you might have already had the best sex of your life, but you couldn't get him to commit to you.
	And if you have that point of reference, that's going to leak into your marriage.
	And you're going to know that he didn't make you feel that same way through the years.
	So I do think that it's a very important factor to save yourself for marriage.
	But I wouldn't say that it's the only heuristic to go by because I get a lot of men who come in my comment section, they come in my chats, and they're always looking for the virgin bride.
	These are men that I perceive to be perpetually online.
	But if you're looking for a virgin bride, they are in church, which means you need to get off your butt and you need to go to church to go and meet them.
	And you have to be within their age group because I find a lot of the times that this is mostly a cope.
	Now, I wouldn't minimize it.
	It's very important to save yourself for marriage.
	However, we are past the hormonal birth control that's been out since the 1950s.
	And we're also past the Industrial Revolution.
	So women are the freest they've ever been.
	But I'm already seeing basically what I perceive to be and what I predict to be fifth wave feminism that's going to come out against promiscuity and the pill and surrogacy, all while still being pro-choice, which riddle me that.
	How is that going to be effective?
	But I think that we're going to start seeing more and more of these feminists come out and say, hey, maybe you shouldn't be on birth control.
	And I don't recommend for women to be on birth control either, just because it's not healthy for you.
	So those are my thoughts on saving yourself for marriage.
	I do think that it's important.
	I just don't think it's the only metric to go by because there's a lot of dudes that have been married 20, 30 years and are miserable.
	They married a virgin bride and they're in a sexless marriage and they're unhappy.
	So marriage is much more than that.
	But if you want to put all the cards in your favor as a young woman, yes, you should do that.
	Okay.
	So then let me talk to you about this side of virginity.
	So this is a kind of a lengthy post.
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	And remember, the show will be on a break for a while for a reason that I can't get into right now, but it will be for a good reason.
	And I'll tell you guys soon.
	But this post came up, okay, from Adara Sharon, MA.
	And I don't know, you're already laughing here.
	You've seen this?
	Yeah, I've seen her account a couple of times.
	I keep up with, I don't even know what to call it, trad media over on Twitter.
	I keep up with it on Instagram.
	And it's a lot.
	It's very hypocritical, like nine times out of 10, hypocritical.
	I wouldn't even call myself a trad wife.
	I know I wear dresses and I get tagged as that, but majority of the trad wives online, they're not even married and they don't even have kids.
	So I don't understand what's going on with these chicks.
	Now, this woman is married, but I think that she's doing a lot for sure.
	Yeah, on that side note, I think that's a lot of projecting is out there too, because people have said that about me.
	They're like, you know, he claims to be super traditional and stuff.
	I go, no, have you ever watched my show?
	It's been four years of me unfucking my own brain after growing up in Los Angeles and not realizing how screwed up I was.
	I was never a leftist and I was never, you know, progressive in that regards.
	But, you know, to the most extent of it all, I realize I'm just a weird guy.
	I'm just who I am.
	But I still know that there's God's standards and I've learned, you know, the importance of absolute truth in my life and to start learning to try to walk in the ways that I want to walk in.
	And I'm now the healthiest I've been.
	But that doesn't mean that I'm some weird, you know, red pill guy that sells my own supplements and tells everyone that I, you know, live the best way, but I'm really secretly unmarried and I worship myself.
	And I talk so much about pornography and not masturbating because I have an addiction to masturbating every day or whatever.
	You know, a lot of these people are very strange.
	They're very strange people.
	But anyway, she said this.
	This is long.
	So she goes, when a hubby and I got serious about courtship, I fasted and prayed and asked God to erase any ties to and memories of the men that I had been with before my husband.
	Let's just stop there.
	So basically, this goes down to saying that she didn't want to come to the marriage with any of her activity, her sexual activity.
	She was a whore.
	Okay.
	She was a straight up hobag, which is whatever.
	And I believe in God's redemption.
	I believe that's one of the most missing factors in today's Christianity.
	True redemption does occur.
	But she says, I wanted to be able to come to the marriage bed with dignity and our experience together to be unique.
	He was a virgin, I was not.
	And I didn't want that to be a hindrance in our sexual relationship.
	Is there a way to undo, start with a woman?
	Can you undo the memories and I won't even call it the damage?
	Let's just say the imprint of previous sexual experiences.
	Is that possible to undo that?
	Not even spiritually.
	Can you undo the imprint of previous sexual activity as a woman?
	No, I don't think so.
	I'm not even sure that men can because I've met men who slept with too many women as well.
	And they have a hard time maintaining interest in a single woman, but it takes them way more women to get there than it takes a woman and an amount of men to get to that place.
	But you can't undo it.
	This is what I was saying earlier, where I think that it comes down to, is your husband the best sex of your life?
	If you've been around the block, there is a chance that he wouldn't be.
	And how are you going to stay committed to him 10, 12, 15 years down the road if you can't stand looking at him naked, if you can't stand having sex with him?
	So that's the perspective that I hold.
	Now, if your husband can throw it down on you and it's the biggest memorable experience ever, okay, amazing, cool.
	You did get lucky because I've heard the opposite story for women where they can't forget a couple of experiences that they had.
	But I would say people that I know that are sincere Christians in real life, I never hear them identify as born-again virgins.
	And I'm not saying that this is how this woman is identifying, although she's very confusing to me.
	But Jesus forgives.
	That does not mean that men will, because you could find Christ and God could say, you get no husband.
	I realize that women use the church as a mating strategy.
	And it probably is going to work because of the sheer amount of sexless men that are out there in public and the crisis of masculinity that is within the church.
	We can talk about a crisis of femininity as well if you want to, but just that itself puts the leverage in the woman's hands.
	So, you know, am I shocked that she was able to pull this off?
	No.
	But the way that she's twisting it and contorting it, it really isn't helpful because Jesus forgives.
	Men in the dating pool, they might not.
	This is bad advice to be giving young women.
	Not that it is advice.
	I'm not sure what it is.
	No, yeah, I don't know what it is because what she was saying is that sex is a learning behavior.
	And that means that you have to learn your spouse and you'll never truly truly do that living the memories of previous partners.
	I think we've lost the meaning of redemption in that redemption doesn't mean that your consequences are erased in this world.
	It means that God can use the consequences for good.
	A very simple way that that would make sense would be you and I discussing this podcast.
	You and I have not lived the most upstanding and exemplary lives throughout our entire lives.
	I always tell people I've, I've, I need the Bible.
	Like I have to have the Bible because there are things that I just wouldn't know are wrong and I wouldn't understand that I wouldn't even realize because I'm not like this real sensitive person.
	I'm like kind of retarded and I just offend people and I say things and I'm still very, very far from being perfect and I'm learning every day, but it doesn't stop me from trying.
	And just because I tell people, you know, I come to God.
	God forgives me.
	People have forgiven me.
	Part of the redemptive process is that I still have made the mistakes I've made.
	I still have done the things I've done.
	And they don't go away.
	It's like a criminal record.
	It can't be undone.
	But what you can do is learn from something and help other people.
	That's the best thing you can do is like explain that you've done these things and show them that you're not stuck.
	But it's like, I think it is a cop out.
	And I don't think it's just Christian women.
	I think it's like all Western women that view even marriage as like, I can just be a hoe from 18 to 30.
	And then when I realize my ovaries are shrinking, I need to settle down.
	And I don't think they settle down, like you said, with the most attractive guy.
	I don't think they settle down with the guy that they want to be in.
	And I think they end up remaining bitter at a lot of the men who gave them opportunities and things that robbed them of becoming the woman they want.
	And that's how we get feminists, because when you give women what they want, they're unhappy because what they want is not what they need.
	I don't know if you agree or disagree with that statement.
	Well, I think women were sold a bill of goods when it came to sexual liberation, but I'm at a point where enjoy the she climb, let them burn, because you really can't save them.
	They'll argue with you until the cows come home about very basic principles.
	I recently said that the data is out there that if you're not married by 30, it's unlikely that you will be married.
	Now, that might be true.
	What for sure is true is if you're a woman and you're unmarried by 35, it is unlikely that you will get married statistically.
	It doesn't mean that it's impossible.
	It means you would have to be the exception to the rule.
	So women hear that and they get bent out of shape and they'll come and they'll argue about it, even though the marriage rates are the lowest they've ever been in recorded history.
	So it is possible that 30, that stereotype that has been around since, I don't know, civilization, it might be there for a reason because this comes down to a personality type and habits.
	And so if you're just buying into the sly and it is a lie and you know that it's a lie because there's only a small percentage of the population that is content to be promiscuous and just smash and pass.
	The majority of women, according to David Buss, are long-term mating strategists.
	But these women can't think past offering the box, essentially.
	So they're still looking for boyfriends to turn into husbands to turn into fathers, but they don't have the skill set in order to acquire that.
	But yeah, I mean, let them burn.
	You can't talk to them.
	They don't want to hear it.
	So they have to find out themselves.
	I think life is the best teacher for women.
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	Let's jump right back into the show.
	Back to what we were discussing about this value of women.
	I think these conversations are so important.
	And in the future, because I have seen you online, like I mentioned, there's just some like exciting stuff going on in my personal life right now.
	And so I'm kind of all over the place.
	I will want to have you back on in the future because we're going to be relaunching the show with like panels and different things, which I think are fantastic.
	And I've seen you do very well on those types of things.
	And one of the conversations though that really shocked me recently was how confused I think men and women are on their gender roles.
	And I want to talk about how successful marriages or successful relationships are dependent on gender roles specifically.
	I myself am convinced that gender roles play a huge part in marriage satisfaction and a huge part in not being divorced.
	You're not going to be angry and bitter at someone for not doing something that they know they're not going to do and they're not expected to do and vice versa.
	These stats from the CDC actually shocked me.
	And I'm not going to lie about this.
	So according to them, 85% of women and 77% of men think that a working woman can form the same relationship with her kids as a stay-at-home mom.
	And only 1.5% of women and 2% of men disagree with this strongly.
	So let's just say 98% of men and women to 99% either agree, somewhat agree, or could take it or leave it, that a woman working in a career woman has the same position in a family and the same will even just throw in the wife there, can produce the same role as a non-working full-time wife.
	Yes or no?
	No, that's hot garbage.
	It's certainly hot garbage.
	This is what I meant by let them burn.
	They can figure it out.
	You want to send your kids to public school to be indoctrinated by not the best and brightest of the nation.
	Go ahead.
	You do that.
	I have girlfriends that aren't even religious that stay home with their kids because they feel very called to and they're aware of what's going on in the public education system.
	But I do say this when it comes to working women, my position on that is that the husband is the objective observer of his wife and her natural state.
	Is she a better wife and mom working full-time, working part-time, or homemaking or raising the children?
	Because there are some super high-performing women out there, but they're a minority of women.
	And from what I've gathered, they're just content to sleep four hours a night.
	That's it.
	They're just okay with that.
	Most women are not going to be that unicorn.
	You cannot have the libido, the energy, the physique, the what is it?
	Cooking and cleaning.
	You still have to do all that too.
	You have to do all of that.
	And you think that you're going to be able to do that with a 40-hour week job?
	I don't think so.
	I will say the majority of women that I talk to that work from home, they have side hustles.
	Some of them open full-blown businesses.
	But I would say that women who have the autonomy over their schedule, they find ways to make money or at least get free things too.
	I am networked with a bunch of these social media mommies who figured out how to monetize a habit.
	Their husbands don't seem to mind.
	And then there's some women that just disappear off the face of the earth and they get lost in their world, which is their right and their prerogative to do so.
	But you don't get those first five years back.
	And to think that somebody who's getting paid $12 to $13 an hour, it may be, maybe because I've worked in childcare that has a high school diploma requirement, you think they're going to take better care of your child than you in a group of 27?
	No, I don't think so.
	Yeah.
	I fundamentally am finding myself enjoying speaking with you more about this than average because on one hand, like you said, you know, we've both come from a background where we've made certain decisions in our lives and we've learned from them and moved forward.
	But just because you've made mistakes doesn't mean you can't be honest about reality.
	And I try to tell my audience that a lot.
	Like, if you don't go to the gym five days a week and you go to the gym one day a week, are you a hypocrite for saying, you know, the healthiest lifestyle would probably be going to the gym five or six days a week?
	No, you're not.
	You're pointing out the abject reality that, yeah, you could be honest, say, well, yeah, I only go to the gym about once a week, but I'm going to tell you this is probably the best way to live.
	And it has been proven.
	And you can see by the physical bodies of the people who do that, that it clearly has a better result.
	And if we can agree to that when it comes to our physical bodies, I don't know why we change that when it comes to spiritual matters or relationship matters.
	Like just because 95% of girls are hoes before they get married doesn't mean that we can't be honest about the importance of virginity.
	Just because you might have been a hoe or I might have been a hoe or whatever it is, doesn't mean that we can't look at the truth and go, hey, that's still, we should still point out the best and the most accurate standards because as a society, we should not set the mark of what we're trying to achieve at the lowest possible threshold.
	We should set it at the highest threshold so that we can try to achieve it, but also having grace on people knowing they're probably all not going to make it because of how absolutely fucked up everybody is.
	However, when I read this next stat, it shocks me because it makes me think not only that people recognize how bad the world is, not only are they okay with it and how okay with how messed up the gender relationships are, but that they are willing to force it to continue.
	They want it to continue because I looked at this is from the, this is from the Bureau of Labor and Statistics.
	70% of women and 65% of men disagree that women should stay home to raise kids while the man works outside the home.
	Meaning more women think that it is wrong.
	And only 6.3% of women and 6.2% of men strongly agree that 100%, it's 100% confident that men should work and women should stay home.
	Meaning in relationship, in marriage, both the men and the women are in joint agreement that it is better for both parents to work and that it is not the man's responsibility to provide financially.
	It is not the man's responsibility to lead the family and that they are equal partners, equal roles in the marriage in terms of provision.
	Does that matter?
	I mean, is that affecting marriage satisfaction?
	Is that true or is that false?
	No, I think so, but in some ways it's a cope and some ways it's not because you always hear about, well, it's the cost of living that's requiring both parties to work.
	But a lot of women, I think, would simply flat out refuse to downsize because you could probably stay home with an average man's income and live in a one bedroom or two bedroom apartment, maybe have one to two children.
	You could do it.
	You could stay home, raise your kids and keep the house, but a lot of women would refuse to.
	That's why I get frustrated when women want to comment about the fact that their man outearns them or something like that, because you could date a broker man, but you're not likely to do so.
	Or women who want to act like they're forced to work when really show me your credit card statements.
	Why are you getting a new car every couple of years?
	There are things that I believe from my perception that women are doing that are making it so that they have to be in the workplace to this degree.
	Aside from that, there is an element of living in a higher social status and relying on your husband that, you know, it's legit.
	It exists.
	But to pretend that there are women out there who have this and they haven't worked for it, I would very much disagree with that because there's a lot that you have to learn about femininity, about homemaking, and about your husband himself in order to achieve that in the first place.
	And if you're not accustomed to it, you're not even going to thrive in that environment.
	There's women that are homemakers that are absolutely miserable.
	They cannot adjust to it.
	But I think it's because they've been programmed to be workers.
	I just don't tend to give prescriptions about if a woman should or should not work because I don't like to tell people what they should do with their lives.
	But your husband is a sounding board.
	If your husband asks you to quit your job, keep in mind this man loves you.
	There's typically a reason he's asking a woman to reduce her hours or to quit her job.
	And it's not to oppress her is because her job is soul sucking or soul crushing.
	And let's say they can't afford for her to quit.
	He'll tell her that, hey, why don't you put in your two weeks?
	And why don't you go and try to find this other job?
	I think you might enjoy that more.
	But women would rebel against that.
	I would say modern women would rebel against that.
	Why are you telling me to do this?
	You're trying to control me when it's a boogeyman.
	Because if you are a stay-at-home wife, your husband outearns you.
	If you do decide to leave him, you stand to make a lot more than if you were a working wife in the first place.
	So it's a boogeyman.
	It's cap.
	It's convincing women that they have to be out there in the workforce.
	There is alternatives.
	And you can work from home.
	You can go and sell insurance from Liberty Mutual from home.
	You can do it.
	I know a lot of women that work from home.
	I have a girlfriend.
	She's been married 33 plus years.
	She's in her 50s.
	She's a part-time attorney.
	She works on her own terms.
	I work on my own terms.
	Women just don't want to get creative, I guess, about how to make supplemental income if they're interested in it.
	Yeah, it is strange to me, though, that in the midst of this as well, that 38% of women and 24% of men would actually be greatly bothered if they didn't have children, according to this poll.
	So about 75% of men and about 60% of women actually don't care about whether they would have children in a marriage and whether that actually matters to them.
	And that's not important, which kind of explains a little bit to me why these stats look the way they do, because the understanding of what the purpose of marriage is seems to be off.
	What is the purpose of marriage if not to have kids and to grow a family?
	I'm with you on the children part.
	Now, I know that some couples decide together that they don't want to have children, but I think that comes down to a minority.
	And I think that it's personality types where these folks, yeah, they could go the rest of their lives without being parents, but you at least at the bare minimum want somebody to go through life with.
	It wouldn't make any sense.
	Women wouldn't be seeing rom-coms if that wasn't the premise.
	But these people are just short-sighted.
	How does a majority of the population not want children?
	Good luck because we're living longer and longer all the time.
	We're not necessarily living healthier, but we're probably, the majority of us are going to live to be 90 as medical technologies continue to advance.
	And if you don't have kids, who's going to be looking out for you?
	And you don't have a, you have a short amount of time as a woman to figure this out.
	As a man, you've got some ample time to sire some children.
	But this doesn't make a lick of sense to me at all.
	But I mean, I'm very forward-projecting.
	I did an article on this as well, and it got shared on feminist Reddits.
	They were unhappy with me, but I called it the spinster to elder abuse pipeline because these CNAs, it's like the daycare workers.
	These people don't get paid a lot.
	The education is minimal, and they're charged with caregiving to a large number of people.
	And you think that maybe not the bottom of the barrel of society ends up in these jobs?
	You think that maybe there might not be a malicious one or two that's going to take out their anger on you guys if no one's checking?
	It's preposterous.
	Not me.
	Not me.
	I'm having my baby right now.
	Right.
	Yeah.
	And as we jump into this, so the rest of the show, if you guys want to watch the rest of the podcast, if you're watching on YouTube or on Rumble and you want to get the full thing, make sure that you go to elijahshafer.locals.com where you can get the whole podcast.
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	And for those people that are not going to watch the rest of our questions that are maybe a little too spicy or a little too crazy for YouTube, where's the best place that people can find you that they can follow you here on YouTube and track your work?
	I'm at RealFem Sapien on all major social media platforms, Twitter, Instagram.
	I'm not making content on Twitter and Instagram right now because I'm getting ready to be a mom and I'm so excited.
	But YouTube is my biggest platform.
	So I would definitely subscribe over there.
	I have a lot of wifeliness content.
	I have panels where I invite wives.
	Like I said, they're married much longer than myself because somebody has to do this stuff.
	And it's embarrassing, in my opinion, that older women don't try to teach younger women practical things about their failures and about their successes because I think that with the delusion that's out there, it's off the charts.
	Women are just getting the worst advice from other women.
	For example, this has come up lately.
	And I'll make this very brief.
	Instead of telling women how to solve romantic issues in their 20s, older women are coming out and trying to warn younger women to freeze their eggs by 30 because it's cheaper.
	Why don't we just not get in positions to where we have to freeze our eggs?
	Oh, you can't give advice like that because you didn't do it.
	Okay.
	That's what's going on right now.

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