Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer - EXCLUSIVE: The Alex Jones "Sandy Hook" Post-Trial Interview

Aug. 6, 2022 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer

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EXCLUSIVE: The Alex Jones "Sandy Hook" Post-Trial Interview

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	In a shocking attack on free speech and, of course, the right wing in general, from January 6th up until today, the establishment elites have not stopped trying to silence effective critics of their regime and people who are, I would say, intelligent enough to know that we are being duped, we are being lied to.
	But because of the Constitution and our Bill of Rights, they are unable to directly imprison us for actual reasons that they want to.
	And instead, they attack us from every other side, trying to destroy our lives, destroy our platforms, and silence the truth.
	There's nobody that they are more afraid of in the midst of this battle than commentator and the infamous Alex Jones, who is on camera with me today for a special report.
	Alex Jones, welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
	Elijah, thanks for having me here during these very, very dark times for our Republic.
	And they are dark times, Alex.
	And just personally, you know, we are watching right now before we even jump into the trial and discuss all the details of where you're getting hit.
	My first question to you is, how are you holding up just in the midst of all of the intensity and the scrutiny in the attacks that have been happening over the last week?
	You know, we're holding up well.
	The crew's great.
	My family's wonderful.
	The listeners and viewers are praying for us and supporting us because they understand the attack on myself and President Trump and people like Steve Bannon and people like Glenn Beck and Tucker Carlson are attacks on who the corrupt establishment, the globalists, see as populist leaders that could mobilize humanity to not go along with the great reset and this collapse of our civilization on which they want to build their build back better new world order.
	And so they hate America.
	They've deindustrialized America.
	They've shipped fentanyl into America.
	They've dissolved our borders.
	They've dumbed down our children.
	They've literally brainwashed us and they're coming after everybody.
	And so I'm really honored that they've engaged in just so many attacks and put so much energy into coming after me.
	That lets us know that we're over the target.
	That's an old saying from World War II before they had radar and they had radar towards the end, but the aircraft didn't have radar.
	And they would fly by line of sight into bomb their targets in occupied Europe.
	And they knew to steer towards the flak or the anti-aircraft guns and exploding shrapnel because that's where they would place the guns was around the factories that they were being sent in to bomb and stop.
	And so I steer towards the flak.
	And that's basically my motto is to be where the war is, where the fight is.
	To quote John Paul Jones, the founder of the U.S. Navy, when his ship that was one-third the size of the British ship was starting to sink, the British captain held across on a primitive bullhorn and said, Are you ready to surrender?
	And he said, surrender.
	I have only begun to fight.
	That's my message to the deep state, the corrupt judiciary, the corporate media, all of them.
	InfoWars and Alex Jones has only begun to fight.
	And so have the American people and the people of the world from Europe to South America and places like Brazil.
	Humanity is rising.
	No, you're correct.
	And I kind of want to jump there and let's just touch base because, you know, the attacks upon you have been relentless for decades.
	I mean, you know that for sure.
	But of course, they ramped back up starting in January 6th.
	Before these trials even started for the Sandy Hook topic, they literally have been trying to take you down on conspiracies, on treason, on whatever they were thinking of concocting.
	Even though from January 6th, you were on camera genuinely telling people not to commit crimes, not to do what they were doing, not to vandalize.
	And so I want to ask, you know, have they been successful in any bit or piece of that investigation in hitting you with any criminal accusations or has the deep state and the elites fallen short there?
	Well, obviously, I don't believe in storming a Capitol and making us all look like idiots.
	We were trying to have a 10-day investigation that Senator Cruz supported, have an investigation in the Senate of the anomalies in the election.
	And so I've been part of so many Trump rallies.
	We've had several big ones in D.C., almost as big as the January 6th one, that were basically entirely peaceful, except for a few Antifa attacking people.
	And so I just expected the Secret Service and the Capitol Police to have it all handled.
	And as I was marching towards the Capitol, we began to see on our smartphones that people were attacking police and going in the building.
	And we're on record in our live streams.
	It got picked up by folks that were live streaming.
	I said, let's get there.
	Let's stop this.
	And we got there and it was too late.
	So the idea that I wanted that to happen is just preposterous.
	It really derailed us legitimately questioning the election.
	And they're trying to call that election denying now, like everything else.
	We're not supposed to ask questions, but that is a fundamental, not just American right, but human right.
	But yes, they've subpoenaed me.
	They had me testify to the January 6th committee because it is a kangaroo court.
	I took the Fifth Amendment, not because I'm criminal, but because they want to twist my words and have a witness or somebody claim actually something else happened to get me in a perjury trap.
	No, absolutely.
	And the reason why I bring that up first, if you're new to listening or you're not familiar with Alex, is because we're going to find out at the end of this interview how the investigation January 6th, they're trying to connect it to this trial for the Sandy Hook victims and the way that they're trying to use this too.
	I want to bring up a quote for you, Alex, and I want to jump right in here.
	And then we're going to talk about everything that we need to know.
	Anything that you can't say for legal reasons, just let me know.
	I want to let the audience know that Alex and I have not pre-talked before this.
	He has not told me there's anything I'm not allowed to ask, and he has not had any of the questions.
	And so this is a complete unfiltered and raw interview to get the truth out and to tell his side of the story as the media attempts to smear, slam, and destroy him.
	I'm sure you saw this article from the New York Post with this quote, and I'd like to bring this up.
	It says, and quote, I ask that with your verdict, you not only take Alex Jones' platform that he talks about away, I ask that you make sure that he can't rebuild that platform.
	That's what matters.
	Lawyer Wesley Ball said, that is punishment.
	That is deterrence.
	Right here, Alex, I believe that we got the smoking done before we talk about the details.
	It looks like in this trial to me, this is not about justice for victims or to punish somebody who they think did something wrong.
	This appears that this is a court trial to destroy Alex Jones and to silence him for the rest of his life.
	Am I incorrect on that?
	Or what do you take from this quote?
	You're 100% right.
	In fact, I mean, I have the video of that.
	That was in his closing arguments yesterday in the punitive phase.
	I can go through all the different levels of it, but they said over and over again, silence him, take his megaphone away, never let him back on air again for all the bad things he does, like talking bad about Hillary Clinton.
	He said, how dare Mr. Jones say lock her up?
	So that same group of lawyers got up there and said, this man called for Hillary Clinton's arrest, and you've got to silence him so he can't do that.
	So they're not even denying now that they want to silence us.
	But here's what happened.
	10 years ago, Sandy Hook took place.
	I thought it really happened.
	The internet questioned it.
	I covered some of the anomalies.
	And for six years, I've said I thought it happened years before they sued me.
	Then these Democratic Party law firms in Texas, where they have a weaponized judiciary in Austin, as bad as D.C., and in Connecticut, sued me.
	And we gave them all this discovery, the emails, the text messages, all this stuff they claim, you know, that we had things we were hiding in, but we weren't hiding anything.
	So they didn't have a case.
	And so they just simply had the judges say Jones is defaulted for not providing discovery.
	Well, if you don't provide discovery, you don't get defaulted.
	Default is if you don't ever even show up to court or for a deposition.
	I gave them hundreds of thousands of documents they asked for, gave them everything.
	And so the judge in this case over 20 times told the jury, this man is guilty.
	Since when does a judge decide you're guilty?
	And you will now decide how guilty he is.
	And I've got another trial with more of the Sandy Hook parents coming up in a few months in Texas and in a few months in Connecticut.
	I declared bankruptcy.
	And so that's put that off.
	But the main reason I declared bankruptcy is they had a fake economist up there.
	All these people, by fake, I mean, it's just what he was saying wasn't true.
	Jones has got $270 million.
	Jones made $70 million last year.
	Jones kept $61 million last year.
	I don't have $2 million in cash, which is nothing for a company this size.
	We are barely hanging on.
	And that's the reality.
	Well, they wouldn't let me testify or any of our experts during the punitive phase.
	They only had their economist on to just make stuff up with no evidence or anything else to tell the jury he made hundreds of millions of dollars off Sandy Hook that we never made any money off of.
	And so you need to take that money away and give it to these parents.
	So people say, man, how are you handling?
	On the actual damages part on Thursday, they said $4.2 million.
	And then in the punitive phase, they said $40 plus million.
	It totals almost $50 million.
	People are like, how are you handling it?
	Oh my gosh, what's it like?
	I've had neighbors come over and say, I didn't know you had $270 million.
	I'm like, I don't.
	So it's kind of like a joke in that they're lying so much.
	I don't have all this money.
	And so it's all going to come out in bankruptcy court.
	But there's videos of the lawyers yesterday after court closed bragging to the media that we're going to feast over Jones's corpse.
	We're going to divide the corpse of InfoWars amongst all these families.
	We're going to get hundreds of millions of dollars.
	And I can't tell if the lawyers just want publicity or they've got some big Soros back donor.
	We know there's some of that going on.
	Or they really think there's all this money.
	But they're obviously telling these families that there's this big payday.
	And again, these same plaintiffs in this first case, Heslin and Scarlett Lewis, Gil Heslin, Curt Lewis, they're part of the $73 million Remington settlement with eight families.
	So divide the two of the eight is them out of 73 million.
	And they've sued everybody.
	And now they're not just trying these lawyers to get rid of the Second Amendment using Sandy Hook.
	They're also trying to get rid of the First Amendment.
	And so that's how they keep Sandy Hook on the news: by focusing on me covering Sandy Hook years ago, demonizing me, and then attaching themselves to me at every level, and then claiming I'm making money off them, and I'm making money off Sandy Hook.
	This was an Alex Jones hate society meeting with literal banks of TV cameras in and outside the court where the New York Times and others were hissing and yelling at me, not even asking questions.
	You're going down.
	You're going to jail.
	You got $180 million.
	You got $270 million.
	But they were asking for $150 million.
	But it's ridiculous.
	It's like if the police wrote you a parking ticket for $50 million and you don't have $50,000 in the bank, it's not in the real world.
	What it really is, is a deterrent to anybody else to question official narratives.
	And it's the dying corporate media and the scared establishment knowing they've lost control of the public's mind, knowing that people don't trust them.
	No group has a lower approval rating than mainstream media.
	It's even lower than Joe Biden or Congress.
	And so they think if they could put me on trial for something that I questioned and made a mistake on, but unintentionally, that somehow that's going to suddenly discredit all the media, all the new media.
	And that's what Ball and Farr and Bankston and those lawyers said in their opening statements or closing statements was we are going to take out patient zero.
	Alex Jones is the source of the disease.
	Once he's off the air, we'll be able to silence everybody else.
	No, patient zero is lying about WMDs in Iraq.
	Patient zero is the deep state killing Kennedy and saying leave Harvey Oswald acted alone.
	Patient zero is staging the Gulf of Tonkin attack to get us into Vietnam.
	Patient zero is Biden saying there is no inflation, but oh, now inflation's good.
	Or, well, now we have a new definition of inflation or a new definition of recession or a new definition of definition or that men can dominate women's sports.
	They're at war with logic.
	They're trying to take over civilization because people don't want to live under tyranny.
	They've got to sell us to live in their fantasy land.
	And so they think they can crucify me, demonize me, to then intimidate everybody else to shut up.
	They actually said it in their closing comments.
	You just read one of the quotes.
	It gets worse than that, Elijah.
	It is unbelievable.
	Well, yeah, I mean, it does.
	I mean, and you do see that this is absolutely a witch hunt because there's three aspects.
	I mean, New York Times just released an article that said, you know, this trial is not going to stop Alex Jones from spreading lies.
	And this is the sad part, I think, is that if you really were fighting for the victims of Sandy Hook or you really thought Alex Jones committed a crime and you thought he needed to be prosecuted, then what is it that you're trying to do?
	Are you trying to find justice for a specific crime or are you trying to shut a person up?
	And, you know, I noticed this every time you're in the news, YouTube has started cracking down.
	You know, I don't know if you saw their really cracking down on the use of the word groomer.
	So they're saying, oh, we care about the kids of Sandy Hook.
	Okay, that's very good in the families.
	But then also, if you call someone a groomer, which would be somebody who's sexually abusing or trying to sexually abuse kids, we're going to protect them, which proves that they don't care about children, that they're not caring about the public, that it's not their older people.
	This is a very, very sick cult.
	They were blocking economists last week, as you know, Elijah, that said we were in a recession, even though the recession is two consecutive quarters with negative growth.
	So, yeah, it's all an exercise in suppressing speech.
	And listen, I said Neil Heslin and Scarlett Lewis's name here.
	Okay.
	I never said their name until this trial.
	Under Texas law, you can't sue somebody when you've never said their name.
	But here's what's even wilder.
	She got on the stand earlier this week, very nice lady.
	And they brought her a one-minute edited tape of me on the show that morning.
	And they played it, wouldn't let us put any evidence on them, but just brought raw clips in or edited clips in.
	And she goes, You see, you said I'm deep state.
	You said this is all fake today on your show.
	And the clip didn't even say that, but they cut the front and the end off where I said, I believe Scarlett Lewis is real.
	I believe her son died.
	And I apologize for that.
	And I think she's got actually a good foundation about teaching kids how to be loving.
	And I think Neil Heslin's a good guy.
	They edited that all out with edited tape.
	And then we said to the judge, Can we play the 10-minute segment for my show?
	Right?
	They said, No.
	So they would let them put edited tapes in.
	And I'm sitting there while this woman says I was shown the clip and I was told by others he said X, Y, and Z, which I didn't do.
	So everything that I'm being accused of is actually what's happening with them.
	It's just simply insane.
	And, you know, they also talk about, oh, the big story, Ursi and Friday.
	Jones caught in massive perjury.
	They've got his phone.
	A, they don't have my phone.
	B, I didn't engage in perjury.
	I'm sitting up there on the stand.
	I've always said I gave them my text messages.
	I gave them all the company stuff, even though they don't usually do that in a defamation case, as if there was some secret conspiracy to lie about him.
	And I've always said that, but the judge said it wasn't turned over properly.
	So then he presents text messages and says, we got it from your lawyer.
	We've got your phone.
	And that's what I always said is I gave my lawyers the information.
	And then the one text message they have about Sandy Hook, their big smoking gun, is Paul Joseph Watson, who didn't even work here at the time, but still worked with us.
	And he did basically quit because he was mad at some of the writers over here and thought that they should do a better job.
	And none of us are perfect.
	And Paul has some pretty good standards.
	I respect Paul.
	He's worked for me for 20 plus years.
	It was a text message of Paul saying, hey, this story about COVID dummies and how they're not real people on respirators, but they're COVID dummies.
	This is Sandy Hook style crap.
	I said, yeah, I agree with you.
	But then it turned out they were shooting video of people that were dummies just because they didn't actually go in and show folks in the hospitals.
	We weren't saying people weren't dying from COVID, but that was just a text we missed where Paul sent me a message.
	And it's me agreeing with him.
	So that, oh my God, a text from my lawyer they gave him is now the Perry Mason moment that I was engaged in this deception.
	I gave the lawyers in Texas and in Connecticut all of it.
	And so when you see them on the news, and there's a famous clip of the judge saying, Mr. Jones, you lied on the stand.
	This is like Wednesday.
	You did not give us the discovery.
	You did not comply.
	It's why you're defaulted.
	And she said, you believe the things you say, but just because you believe it doesn't make it reality, what I say up here is reality in this courtroom.
	Talk about an Orwellian, bizarre statement.
	So this two-week trial was the weirdest thing, Elijah, in my life.
	It was over the top bizarre.
	And I walked out of the courtroom that day, Wednesday or Thursday or whatever day it was.
	I guess it was Thursday.
	And there was like 15 news cameras outside.
	And they were laughing and they were smiling.
	They said, you're going to jail.
	We got you.
	January 6th is going to get your text messages.
	It's all over.
	You perjured yourself.
	And they were just smiling and laughing like their team had just won the Super Bowl or they just had a baby boy.
	We're handing out cigars at the maternity ward.
	And I looked at them and I said, you understand I gave my lawyers those text messages.
	And so by that evening, we went and looked at the files, what had happened.
	They'd given Connecticut all the search terms in my text.
	And one of the paralegals, they were searching my phone in six-month chunks.
	So a chunk from 2019, late 2019, early 2020, long before January 6th, had been searched by them.
	And the paralegal left that in the file that was then given to Connecticut.
	And then when my local lawyer became joint counsel in Connecticut, they sent them all these files.
	And then they sent those files in Discovery, which we supposedly didn't comply with, to the other lawyers.
	And then stuff from my lawyer, raw text messages they shouldn't have sent, has nothing in it, turns into me perjuring myself because I said I gave them my text messages.
	Yes, I gave my legal representatives the damn messages.
	I mean, what is there?
	Their smoking gun is Paul Watson going, hey, this COVID story sounds like BS, sounds like Sandy Hook.
	And I say, I agree.
	So in my intimate messages two plus years ago, it's me at CPAC talking to Paul over text message.
	That's their smoking gun.
	That's their Perry Mason moment.
	Is Paul talking about an incubator?
	Not incubator.
	What are those things called the things they use to breathe on?
	The ventilators.
	Oh, yeah.
	Yeah, the ventilators.
	So just think about that, Elijah.
	It's just crazy.
	No, okay.
	So, yeah, let me get this straight.
	So a few things that I want to clarify.
	So this, your judge, her name is Maya Gamble, correct?
	Maya Guerra or whatever her name is.
	Yeah, she on her own Facebook has blue hair.
	Yeah, I'm an SJW.
	No, yeah.
	So it's like blue hair to me is a warning of the SJW.
	And the thing was, is I will tell you, I have never seen in the history of watching trials, and we've seen a lot of trials go on.
	And I've been involved in multiple investigations as a person of interest and also in my footage being used as evidence in trials, even that I don't want to be a part of.
	And I have never seen a judge so unprofessional, so clearly biased.
	She spoke to you in a patronizing tone.
	And I watched your face, Alex, in disbelief as you're just going, she's going, you can't say certain things.
	You can't claim anything as being evidence.
	You can't say that.
	She said, you can't say you're innocent.
	You can't say you gave us discovery.
	Why?
	I mean, who appointed this?
	Do you know anything about this judge?
	Who appointed her?
	How she got there?
	She was in Texas, they're elected, but she was backed by a George Soros pack.
	Just like our district attorney allows people out of jail.
	Two guys on Sixth Street sprayed bullets into a bunch of buildings and people.
	And because they were black, the district attorney let them out of jail the next day in Austin.
	And so this is George Soros, folks.
	People say, why don't you move?
	Our offices are here.
	Our crew lives here.
	If we had the money, we would get out of Austin.
	It's a nice town, nice people.
	My family's from here.
	But obviously, I've got to move to a red county somewhere or to Florida or something because when you're here, you are in the cult bubble.
	Right.
	Well, you have $270 billion, actually, according to the courts.
	So I think you'll be okay.
	You probably can move.
	And that's what I think is crazy, though.
	I want to know this from them because theoretically speaking, Bank of America said that they were handing over bank records for people that were being investigated for January 6th.
	I do bank with Bank of America personally, or I did have business accounts then.
	And I know that the banks hand this over.
	People, there are ways to subpoena or to try to find out personal records.
	Where did they get this idea that they're telling the families that they're getting a payout of, you know, 250, I think, you know, 500 million?
	I've seen numbers so around the course, it's not unlike elites to lie about exact numbers.
	But where did this rumor come from?
	And why do you think they're pushing it?
	Well, again, we gave them, because the courts ordered it, all the financials, all the everything, and then defaulted us and said we didn't give it to them and then used twisted logic.
	So one number is all the supplements that we've bought over a decade as I've been selling supplements is over $100 million because we don't buy crap.
	These are expensive for us to buy high-quality high-end supplements that don't have a lot of markup.
	And so they use gross numbers over the years.
	So if you're buying, you know, $15 million of supplements a year, then that's going to be a big number.
	Also, they take the same number for the last four years with us paying money on a free speech system to buy product from a supplier, and they call that money money we kept.
	You know, when I set up a supplement company 10 years ago or 11 years ago, we went to former FDA lawyers and we said, What do you do for liability?
	How do you set it up?
	They said, Well, you want to set up your own company with your partners, and then that's FDA follows FDA regulations and all the rest of it, not FDA approves.
	They don't approve supplements, but it's you still follow the FDA testing as if it's a food regulation.
	I mean, this all gets into the weeds.
	And then what you do is that company contracts and buys the supplements, and then it sells them to the shopping cart free speech company, and that's two separate deals.
	And so, all they do is they point at money paid from free speech systems to the supplement company that my dad and I have.
	And then they go, Oh, that's pure profit.
	That's money he's diverting to himself as if it's bad to make money.
	I wish we had that much money.
	So that's why they talk about the last four years, there's a missing 61 million, and in a decade, there's 160-something million.
	And there's a, and he's got, I mean, it's all just completely made up.
	I mean, here's an example: we sell a lot of high-quality shortable foods.
	We make about 30% on them, and we might sell $30 million of food a year.
	Well, that's not $30 million, which you'd be fine if we did, but we have to pay for the crew, the cameras, the bandwidth, the websites, the legal, all of this by selling products.
	And why is that bad?
	They took our sponsors away over the years, so we sell products.
	So they try to make it dirty that we're selling snake oil, which is high-quality products.
	Many of our products are just private labeled top brands that are sold in Whole Foods, you name it.
	And again, they play these semantical games with look, look, in all these years, $100 and something million dollars got paid out to this company.
	Yeah.
	The company, the holding company that buys the product.
	And so that's the games they play.
	Isn't it weird how all of a sudden the Hollywood establishment people have switched to saying vaccines are good and taking healthy supplements are bad because Alex Jones sells them?
	It's like it's got it's gone totally backwards.
	But, you know, I get confused, though, because I did watch that video of you in the court.
	You had an interaction with, I believe it was the parents, right?
	Where you had a, can you tell me about this?
	Like you had an altercation that went on with the lawyer and they stopped you from speaking.
	What was going on there?
	What happened there?
	Well, that's right.
	The corporate media spun it that I had an altercation with the family.
	Neil Heslin and his ex-wife, they had the son together that was killed at Sandy Hook, Scarlett Lewis, came over and shook my hand and said they forgave me.
	And I said, okay, well, I didn't try to hurt you on purpose, but I'm glad you forgive me.
	I'm sorry.
	Never said your name, but I didn't say that to him.
	I was like, okay, well, thank you.
	And then their lawyer jumps in and starts yelling at me, starting a fight, basically.
	And then the media spun it that I came over to them.
	They came over to me.
	Yeah, but why did the lawyer, why was the lawyer trying to cut that off?
	I mean, why it was, I know he was like a total, like, they did not want you guys being in a somewhat human moment.
	I think it was one of the only human moments at the trial that I've seen so far.
	Well, that's that, that's that ball guy, the same one that says he wants to shut us down.
	I mean, I'm a demon.
	I'm a horrible person.
	The truth is, I never said these people's name.
	I questioned an event like I questioned Jesse Smollett or, you know, WMDs in Iraq.
	And so I tried to take the high road.
	I tried to apologize.
	I tried to be nice.
	And then they got, and then they gave them $4.
	Whatever million dollars in actual damages and I'll put it in 40-something million.
	But here's the big news story: A, I don't have that money.
	And B, and here's the key.
	Here's the key.
	A, I don't have that money.
	And B, it's all capped at less than $5 million under Texas law.
	So their big, almost $50 million verdict is capped at a fraction of that.
	But it doesn't matter because a hole in the boat will sink your boat, whether it's a foot wide or 100 feet wide.
	We don't have that money.
	And so that's why I'm in bankruptcy.
	Right.
	And I simply said on the stand.
	I said, I said I'm in bankruptcy.
	Well, yeah, it's a huge exaggeration.
	I do want to say that because I'm looking at the articles here, Alex, that people are trying to say, you know, Alex Jones is over $43 million, more coming, $42.5.
	They don't even have the numbers exact on the headlines on my screen.
	I think it's just to make it seem like a bigger deal.
	They know the law.
	They know that things are capped.
	Why tell families who may not know these things?
	Why tell them that they're going to be getting money that's not coming in?
	What is the reasoning behind this?
	Well, I mean, $4 million isn't coming in because it's not there.
	And that's the thing.
	The lawyers on the other side, I think, really believe their own propaganda.
	Like, they think I really have all this money, or they think a trust has money, or they think, you know, there's some kind of, and there's not, because my job has not been trying to amass personal wealth.
	It's been trying to beat these people.
	I mean, we've spent before they blocked us off of it, tens of millions of dollars on ads for the show, on Google Ads and other places.
	I mean, we really, I got a nice house, a decent car, drive a Dodge car, got a Ford truck.
	I mean, I got, yeah, got a Ford truck, got a rifle shotgun, four-wheel drive.
	But my goal was never, you know, to just have a bunch of money.
	I really started this trying to beat these people.
	They've tried to change the subject.
	They've used class envy.
	Instead of us worrying about Bill Gates or worrying about Klaus Schwab or worrying about the New World Order, trying to push new lockdowns or things that are on the horizon, it's all about Alex Jones got rich off disinfo and rich off Sandy Hook.
	No, barely ever talked about it.
	They have attached themselves to me and to the populist American movement.
	And the globalists are making me the face of populism so that they can then demonize Americans in general.
	And so that's the process that's taking place right now.
	Yeah, I do notice, though, that as YouTube has been clamping down on pretty much everybody that I know, from people as innocent as Ali Beth Stuckey.
	I don't know if you're familiar with her and her podcast, Relatable, which is probably the most kosher podcast that exists outside of maybe Ben Shapiro or legitimately a church itself.
	You know, she's getting videos removed for misinformation for telling the truth about prosecutions in January 6th.
	And so the media is, you know, anti-supplement health, pro-vaccine, pro-incarceration.
	I mean, it feels like I don't know what country we're living in anymore, but I know you personally, Alex.
	And I will say this: you know, you've been a very good friend.
	I mean, you've even made peace with Glenn Beck and Glenn Beck with you.
	These are different times.
	And I do not know you to be anything but loving and gracious and generous.
	I mean, I don't think you have $4 million.
	I know that, you know, we've gotten lunch together.
	You've paid for it.
	You're more than willing to say hello, you know, to people.
	I've had you on the show a few times, been on your show a few times.
	What does the media get from painting you as a boogeyman that you're not while trying to paint people like Biden or Pelosi as being saints and heroes when those are the truly evil people using taxpayer money to corrupt our entire institutions and destroy our nation?
	What do they get for making you the center of attention as the evil overlord?
	Well, Elijah, that's what this is all about.
	You have the corporate media that is incredibly unpopular.
	Again, the most unpopular institution in America.
	And it's the same around the world.
	They have no credibility.
	Everybody's turning against them.
	And so they are trying to outlaw independent thinking and questioning their narratives.
	And I saw Dan Rather and everybody weighing in on this kangaroo trial, again, where the judge found me guilty.
	And she has another trial coming up with more families and then another trial where I've been already found guilty in Connecticut.
	This has all been highly, highly coordinated.
	And they admit now, as you read earlier out of the New York Post, this is the model to silence independent populist speech for everybody.
	Yeah, I'm looking right now at this and what's going on here is that legitimately speaking, if you type in Alex Jones, not only does it have with your title, you're more hyphenated than a black, disabled, queer person, you know, with so many things in your intro.
	It says you're alt-right, you're conservative, you're far-right, which is all conflicting definitions.
	Then you go down and it's just conspiracy theorists, stop the lies, how he got.
	I mean, I can see this.
	There's no information about you.
	It's literally just a hit piece, a Google.
	You look your name and it's like, how many times can we try to discredit this person?
	How many times can we try to destroy him?
	Meanwhile, they literally lie on behalf of the people, bombing kids overseas, you know, using our money to fund wars like in Ukraine that the Americans are not interested in, sending our diplomats to Taiwan to trigger our political enemies so she can check on her investments.
	And it just doesn't make sense to me, Alex.
	It doesn't make sense unless like what you were saying.
	And I believe this to be true, that the reason why they're coming after you in the Sandy Hook thing is they say things like this.
	I love this.
	They go, Alex Jones accepted or finally says that Sandy Hook happened when you've been saying this for years.
	And it's just so that they can try to justify their years previous of all of their slander, their abuse, saying like, well, we had to abuse him.
	We had to persecute him because we had to basically flog him in the public so that he would confess to his crimes and his sins and admit Sandy Hook happened.
	When in reality, that's been not, that's not news.
	You've been saying that for years and you admitted that you got things wrong.
	But they do it so that the public goes, oh, you're justified in your persecution of Alex.
	It's a good thing you did that because we got the right result.
	That's what I think it's about.
	I think that's the whole point about the mislabeling, the misguiding is that it justifies to the public, hey, we're going to punish the bad people so that you don't have to.
	And I think it's just a complete mockery of justice, a mockery of our institutions.
	Well, that's right.
	It's persecution.
	They're setting themselves up as the oracles, as the judges, as the arbiter of what can be said and what can't be said.
	And I mean, you hit the nail on the head.
	I was on Joe Rogan's show four years ago, five years ago, apologizing and saying I think Sandy Hook really happened, but there were a lot of anomalies and a lot of stuff did get covered up and the police reports don't add up.
	And then headlines everywhere.
	Associated Press, Jones under pressure finally admits he lied.
	I didn't lie.
	I questioned something.
	I said I didn't know what happened.
	Just like I said, Jussie Smollett's story doesn't sound accurate the first day it broke and I was right then.
	Many times we're right, but most of the time we're not even speculating.
	99% of what we do is just give our commentary on things that are already happening or play a clip of Joe Biden saying one thing and then saying another or a press secretary saying one thing and saying another.
	99% of what we do is not our giving our opinion.
	It's us analyzing what's actually happening.
	So look, they can't put the genie back in the bottle.
	They can't put the toothpaste back in the tube.
	The people have broken with the establishment, and they think if they can torture and attack populist leaders, that somehow they'll gain credibility back, or somehow everybody else will be scared.
	And I'm telling you, it's having the opposite effect.
	Well, and I got to understand this: how is this not like, how is it not free speech to question things and get it wrong in the middle of an ongoing investigation when the mainstream media does this not only by accident but intentionally all the time?
	Like, they'll just lie until they're proven liars and then they go, oh, well, now we got to change our narrative.
	And they still lie and call January 6th an insurrection.
	So it's like, why is it that they're not held accountable and they're protected by free speech First Amendment, but you're not?
	Well, that's a great example.
	Remember how they said Trump grabbed the wheel of the beast of the Secret Service limo and tried to make him go to January 6th at the Capitol.
	And it came out.
	That was a total lie.
	None of it happened.
	But they don't care.
	Just like they said, oh my gosh, you think Hunter Biden laptop's big?
	We have Alex Jones's phone, and January 6th committee wants it.
	The next day in court, we say, we've looked at the file.
	It's late 2019, early 2020.
	It was part of Jones's discovery.
	It was the raw text.
	We handed over the search terms, but we actually sent them the raw text.
	And then there's nothing in the raw text.
	Where's the smoking gun?
	There's nothing, one text message that we didn't turn over because it was Paul Watson just saying the word Sandy Hook had nothing to do with it.
	Nothing to hide.
	It's one thing if the cops see you run for no reason and they pull you over, there's a dead woman in the trunk.
	And then you've got scratches on your chest and they find your skin under her fingernails.
	You're getting charged with murder.
	When they pulled me over and opened the trunk, there was nothing in the trunk.
	Well, what I'm trying to say, that's what I'm trying to understand.
	What is it that the court said?
	Like, what did you say exactly?
	I mean, you could be careful because obviously we're on public platforms on YouTube and they're going to do everything they can.
	You know, people want to find reasons to not allow you to do it.
	Let's be clear.
	Let's be clear.
	Exactly.
	They will edit what we say.
	A whole bunch in court, they would play five-second clips, Elijah.
	That's why I won't even say what I said.
	I'll just say Hillary Clinton played 10-second edited clips on national TV ads running against Trump of me out of context, which I had a right to say, but it's out of context.
	And then that's what they sued me for.
	So they sued you for out-of-context clips.
	Out-of-context clips.
	Again, I never said these people's names.
	They have an FBI agent in Connecticut, part of the group suing me in Connecticut.
	That trial starts soon.
	He's suing me for millions of dollars.
	I don't even know who he is.
	Well, I never even said his name.
	First time I ever heard about him is when I got served with a lawsuit.
	Well, I want to say this.
	I don't know if you saw about this, but this is a crazy story.
	I mean, when you're talking about like real issues, did you hear about at the Trump rally about the Democratic operative that was found with an illegal firearm impersonating an FBI agent in Washington, D.C.?
	And I want to bring this up.
	You guys can look at the story for yourself.
	I'll be talking about it tonight on my live stream at 8 p.m. on a slightly offensive channel.
	But most importantly, they go, you can't question anything, right?
	This is what I want to talk to you about.
	You can't question anything and you have to get it right all the time.
	Well, we clarified the media questions and they never clarify until we force them to.
	And half the time, they still won't admit it.
	But also, weird anomalies do happen.
	And while we're not questioning Sandy Hook on this show at all, let's bring up a couple examples.
	Like I just said, you find an actual Democrat employee posing as an officer, going through a chase, getting arrested at a Trump rally for the election.
	So you have that's that's a very confusing story, which already we're saying, hey, there's some fishy stuff going on with law enforcement and the elections and things.
	And they go, nope, you're not allowed to talk about it.
	But more and more, the evidence comes out.
	And then you go, hey, with mass shootings, it's confusing.
	And they go, well, you're not allowed to talk about this one.
	Then you go, but what about Las Vegas?
	What about Uvalde?
	Why was there more officers at Uvalde than there were people who defended the Alamo by almost 200%?
	And yet they couldn't take down one shooter for over an hour.
	I just have questions on why these things are happening.
	And in the midst of our discovery, I'll get it wrong.
	They said that during this kangaroo trial, where I was, again, guilty until proven guilty, not innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent, guilty until proven guilty.
	They said, oh, I bet you're even going to question Uvalde.
	Well, we have the mayor saying he believes there's a cover-up.
	We have the head of the state police saying we've been lied to about what happened.
	I'm not saying children didn't die there, but when we see crazy stuff like this, we have a right to say what we want.
	If I want to say that space aliens killed the kids at Uvalde, it's not true.
	It's my opinion.
	I have a right to say it.
	We have to trust the public enough to be able to watch what they want to watch, listen to what they want to listen to.
	But the real threat is an establishment that says you're too dumb to be able to hear what somebody else has to say about this.
	And so you're absolutely right.
	I want to ask you personally, if you can clarify on the interview, what are the top three media lies or the top three lies that we haven't discussed or any other information that you want to clarify from the trial that probably hasn't been able to be clarified?
	I mean, first off, I was found guilty by the judge, unprecedented.
	Secondarily, I did provide them all the damn discovery.
	They just claim we didn't do it right, which isn't true.
	And I never said these people's names.
	And I don't live off Sandy Hook.
	I didn't make money off Sandy Hook.
	People know I question the establishment.
	People know I'm on the globalist payroll.
	So they tune in because they understand I'm a populist champion.
	And so they're simply having a temper tantrum over the fact that the public doesn't trust them, the public doesn't like them, and their Humpty Dumpty has fallen off the wall.
	And he's had a great fall.
	And all their propaganda and all their BS and all their intimidation, all their bullying can't ever put their Humpty Dumpty back together again.
	But I'll tell you why they're really mad at me, Elijah.
	And that's because I've been exposing the globalist New World Order corporate takeover plan for almost 30 years.
	And because I know what I'm talking about, and because we've been successfully rallying not just Americans, but folks in Europe, people in South America, folks in Africa, everywhere with the truth.
	And we have this book that starts shipping here in just a few weeks, The Great Reset and the War for the World, that is the master plan, Death Star plans of the globalist and what they're planning for you and your family, and how they're taking full authoritarian control with their cashless society, their carbon taxes, their social credit scores, all of it.
	It is in the book, The Great Reset, available at Amazon.com.
	It's in the top 30 books right now.
	It's in over 20 top charts.
	Here it is right here.
	Let me do an overhead shot.
	But here it is in world history, U.S. history, more than 20 different areas.
	It is number one ahead of Obama and all the rest of them.
	So I hope people get the great reset and the war for the world and Amazon.com or infowarstore.com.
	You can get signed copies because it really is an important book.
	It needs to be on every bookshelf.
	And it's a culture war, frontline issue.
	This book, owning this book, sharing this book, getting this book is a revolutionary act.
	The Great Reset.
	The folks over at Skyhorse had the courage to publish it, and they believe it's going to probably go to number one book, period, in the world.
	If it does that, it is a major repudiation of them.
	So, everybody goes now and gets this book because I'm very, very proud of it.
	And if you want to understand the enemy battle plan, it's laid out here.
	Yeah, and you should check it out.
	I actually just got done with an interview with Congresswoman Lauren Bobert, who we talked about the great reset as well.
	And this is a sitting congresswoman talking about how, you know, Klaus Schwab, she said they're talking about it.
	They're admitting it.
	So, if you want to know if it's a conspiracy or if it's real, you either can believe it's a conspiracy and you can keep getting screwed over, or B, you can be prepared for what's happening because some of this stuff where we're not going to be able to really stop unless there's some serious action, but at least you can be better prepared.
	Make sure you check out the links in the description, by the way, if you're watching.
	Also, if you're listening, don't forget this is an audio-only podcast.
	And you can get us on Spotify, on Apple iTunes, on Google Play, wherever you can get audio only.
	And if you're listening and you're one of those people that are listening, the link should be in the description as well.
	Make sure you pick up a copy for yourself and read, inform yourself on the realities that are going on because the forces of evil have aligned and the darkness is shrouding the earth.
	But those who are fighting for truth and the light of God, and the people who want what's right, and people who are at least God-fearing, even if they're not God-believing, but realize that the creator may exist, we are all coming together and we are fighting against this totalitarian, technocratic feudalism that is trying to take over our world.
	And you can find out a lot about that in the book that Alex just let out in the description.
	Alex, before we jump off here, I do want to just clarify something.
	They're saying InfoWars is over.
	This is done.
	Alex Jones is going to be gone.
	We won.
	We beat him and they're laughing and their goblin voices in their cave meetings and they're celebrating the demise.
	Is Infowars over?
	And is Alex Jones going away?
	Elijah, I was getting remarried six years ago in Hawaii.
	And I told my wife, I said, I want to write a book a year.
	I want to make a film a year, but I really want to just slow down and be more intellectual and not just do three, four hours a day because it's killing me.
	And I promised her, I said, within five years, even though I love my crew, I'm going to find people to replace me if they want to keep it going.
	But I'm going to go off the air within five years.
	And I shook her hand and I promised her to do it.
	She wasn't asking me to.
	I said, I want to do art and I want to travel.
	And she was pregnant at the time.
	I said, I want to spend time with our new child that is a girl, Veronica.
	And I said, you know, I think I've done my work.
	The New World Order is going to have its operation, but we've really warned people.
	And that was my job.
	Now they can decide whether they want to be slaves to the globalist New World Order.
	It's coming for our children or whether they want to stand up and say no.
	And then they deplatformed us.
	Then they debanked us.
	Then they lied about us.
	Then they demonized us.
	And so I told her about three years ago, I said, honey, I'm going to go back on that promise.
	She said, I understand.
	I said, because you see how they lie about me now and de-platform me where I can't talk, then they steal my identity and can say whatever they want about me when I don't have a voice.
	So I said, I've got to stay on air just because I can't allow my identity to be stolen.
	Plus, the New World Order came in even harder than I thought it would.
	We have responsibility.
	She said, absolutely.
	I don't want you to ever quit.
	But now that they've done this and now that they have said they're going to divide up the corpse of Infowars and they're going to destroy me and they're going to silence me, even though I'm exhausted, I am up here all day today doing interviews, all day going to shoot a special report.
	And I'm going to write more books and make more films and work harder than I've ever done because I understand that they see us as a threat because we are a threat to tyrants and the globalist pedophiles and the new world order.
	And I know that for whatever reason, we've had probably the greatest effect of anybody other than President Trump or President Bolsonaro or President Orban.
	And so I'm not perfect, but I never got things wrong on purpose.
	I've been way more right than wrong.
	And so now I've got to really go to the next level because I enjoyed being on air five years ago.
	I enjoyed being on air 10 years ago.
	I still enjoy a good interview.
	I still enjoy taking calls.
	But I'm really sick of all day reading about the new world order and the crimes they've committed.
	You know, when you asked me, what are some of the bad things the globalists have done while they try to demonize you?
	I actually got like a headache when you said that because I could talk for hours about all the horrible things they're doing.
	And I kind of, I mean, I finally got to a point where I'm like, I can't focus on these people anymore.
	But we have to.
	And that's why so many good people just tap out and say, I'm done.
	It's not because they're bad.
	It's because it's overwhelming.
	But it's only going to get more overwhelming until we finally say no.
	They're not going to leave us alone.
	They're not going to go away.
	They want our children.
	They want our lives.
	They want our souls.
	They want our minds.
	They want everything we own.
	They say we'll own nothing and have nothing and be happy.
	And so it's kind of like a bully starting to fight with you.
	You don't want it.
	You weren't looking for it.
	But once the fight starts, it feels pretty good.
	And so I am being rejuvenated by this two-week trial, by them lying and by them rigging it and by them editing things and by them taking things out of context and by them giggling and laughing.
	I was exhausted coming to the office at 10 a.m. this morning.
	And then I saw clips I hadn't even seen yet of the lawyers for the Democratic Party laughing and literally saying, we're going to divide up his corpse.
	Well, rumors of my demise have been greatly exaggerated, as the great Mark Twain said.
	And Mark Twain also said, in the beginning, a patriot's a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned.
	What is the exact Mark Twain quote?
	Mark Twain.
	In the beginning, a Patriot's a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned.
	But in time, the Timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
	In time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
	And see, normally, I used to have an almost photographic memory, but I'm so exhausted that sometimes my memory fails.
	Guys, pull up the Mark Twain in the beginning of Patriots a scarce man quote, because I want to read that here.
	And I also want to read to viewers and listeners on the great Eliza Schaefer show.
	He has courage.
	He's having me on.
	It's like George Harwell said, in a world of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	And it's really that simple.
	It's like the emperor's new clothes.
	But while they're trying to pull that up, I'll get the quote right this time.
	In the beginning, a patriot's a scarce man, hated, feared, and scorned.
	But in time, when his cause succeeds, the timid join him because then it costs nothing to be a patriot.
	And so I think at the end of the day, that's really what this is all about.
	And there's also the great quote that I'll paraphrase of Eddie Roosevelt about the man in the arena.
	And whether you want to be in the arena or not, folks, you are in the arena and the globalists are coming after you and your family.
	And rolling over isn't going to give you any security or safety.
	And you can decide to give up.
	You can decide to roll over.
	But the children demand and deserve you stand up for them.
	So you don't have an excuse to quit.
	You don't have an excuse to go away.
	You don't have an excuse to hide out in the countryside, folks, like I'd love to do as well.
	We have a responsibility to stand up for the innocent because God's watching.
	And let me tell you, God's real.
	And you will be cut off from God eternally if at this moment in this universe, you don't stand and fight.
	I agree.
	I'm truly, truly, I want to put this out to everybody.
	It is always coming with the cost.
	And this channel itself is always on the border of being attacked.
	You know, they've come for Alex Jones.
	They've temporarily suspended Turning Points channel.
	They've come after all of our Blaze TV channels in the last few days.
	The hit articles, they trickle down, folks.
	They trickle down.
	It's not just Trump.
	It's not just Alex Jones.
	It's not just Turning Point.
	It's not just Elijah Schaefer as we go.
	They are arresting people that put up a transgender flag, Nazi flag in the UK.
	I mean, what you see in the UK is coming here.
	It is coming.
	And I just want everyone to be prepared and to genuinely be praying and embracing and supporting the people and yourselves and your family.
	But most importantly, take care of your spirit.
	And just like I am, you know, it's been in a dark place.
	I'm returning to God.
	We need to return to the place of the Holy Spirit and to the resting place.
	I'm going to remind you guys that to get Alex Jones' book, also click the links below.
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	Make sure that you go there, that you look for it and support at infowars.com or banned.video or whatever new address that they continue to support Alex and his mission and his crew.
	You remember they have other shows as well.
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	And they do lots of great stuff with many contributors and articles on their website.
	Make sure to support them always.
	Don't believe the lies.
	Don't believe the mainstream media slander and criticism.
	And of course, don't get caught up in the personal and interpersonal drama.
	It is the time to unite, to fight the demonic forces, to fight the global elites, and to always remember, remember that as long as you are a partner of God, they crucified and they persecuted Christ first.
	And he promised us, other than death and taxes, basically, the only thing he promised us was that persecution would come to those who partner in the mission of Christ.
	Alex, any last words?
	No, just thank you so much.
	And exactly, it's so critical to support the Blaze that's doing just incredible work.
	It is so important to support InfoWars because don't just think as you're watching and listening that others know where we're at.
	Tell people Alex Jones lives.
	The forbidden information you're not supposed to see is at infowars.com forward slash show and banned.video.
	And then everything we do is free to air.
	Take clips, share it, folks.
	I hope people will take clips out of this show and share it because it's the wonderful clippers and memers that are boosting everything that Elijah does and that Tucker Carlson does and that Glenn Beck does.
	And again, I'll just say it.
	Glenn Beck is a great guy.
	He's an amazing mind, so well-spoken, so smart, and an intellectual titan.
	And I get why 10, 15 years ago, I would say this stuff about the New World Order, and it sounded insane.
	And it sounded like I was a horrible liar.
	And Beck legitimately thought I was wrong.
	And then now that it all came true, Beck's doing a better job than I am, very smoothly and articulately in his professorly way, laying it out.
	So no matter what happens to me, I feel good knowing Glenn Beck's there.
	And his breakdowns of this are the best.
	And I'm not kissing Glenn Beck's ass.
	I mean, I'm saying I love Glenn Beck now.
	And because I realize he wasn't saying I was a liar on purpose or he wasn't lying, saying I was a liar.
	He legitimately thought that I was making this stuff up.
	I wish I was making this up.
	It's worse than I can describe, folks.
	It is absolutely out of control.
	So, Elijah Schaefer, thank you so much and God bless.
	Alex Jones, thank you so much.
	Anyway, thank you so much again for watching another exclusive interview here on Blazetv.com and wherever else you are getting these interviews.
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	Have a great rest of the week, and may God bless the United States of America.

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