March 2, 2022 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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The Untold Story of Glenn Beck | Ep 231
He's a radio personality, a TV host, a writer, a businessman, a father, and was once featured on the covers of both Time and Forbes. This is a man who needs no introduction and has done more with his life than anyone could even fathom. We sit down with Glenn Beck to go over the ups and downs in his life and how he got to where he is today.
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I haven't seen that commercial in I don't know how long.
You know, so the monkey in that was Bubbles, Michael Jackson's chimp.
I don't know if you remember, but that was Michael Jackson's chimpanzee.
And we rehearsed that because there are so many things.
We rehearsed that for like three hours at lunchtime in a limousine.
The monkey drives up, comes in, the handler said, Okay, here's what you need to do: you're gonna, you're gonna jump up here, you're gonna walk over here, you're gonna pick up the mug, and you're gonna drink from it, and you're gonna set it down.
Got it?
And he went like this.
We did it after three hours of rehearsal.
I said, The monkey is gonna, he's ready.
They're like, Yeah, yeah, he's ready.
We screwed the take up because we got to the place to where he put the mug down and we were like, Shut the hell up.
And that was the difference when 9-11 happened and then, you know, 08, I started feeling like real consequences here.
There's, this is, we're not screwing around.
And between that and being hammered for everything I said as a joke being taken seriously by the media who just wanted to destroy, you know, it just, it just sucked all the fun out of it and sucked all of the comedy, the ability to do any comedy.
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And when we are happy about this, Glenn, I'm happy you're here because what I found is I was like, I was looking online.
And of course, the first things that comes up on Google about you is Wikipedia.
And I love exploring people's Wikipedias simply because I love fan fiction.
I love lore.
I love the media's made-up narratives.
And the funny thing is, is unfortunately, a lot of people's careers, unfortunately, are tied to you, meaning whether they're your enemies and they've grifted off of fighting you or like even myself benefited off of your hard work.
People are connected to you whether they like it or not.
I'm here to stay, but it's funny when I, when I read this, the common thing that I always see when I hear you described by the media and is out there is always that you're an American conservative political commentator, a radio host, television producer, and the famous one that they always put in is a conspiracy theorist.
And I have to ask myself, who am I working with?
Who is this man?
What is going on here?
And like, I just wanted to get into your life and I wanted to talk about this.
And I want to start very simply with just finding out a little bit about like, who was little Glenn?
Who's Glenn Jr.?
What was your life like growing up that led you towards media?
I was working at my dad's bakery when I was about seven.
We all did.
My dad owned a small little bakery in our little hometown in Mount Vernon, Washington.
And one summer, you know, I lived in Seattle or the Seattle area, and it's always raining there.
And it was a sunny day outside, and I was inside watching TV.
I was seven years old.
And my mom came into the room and she said, what are you doing?
Turn the TV off.
Go outside and play.
And I mouthed off to my mom and grumbled and said, you know, when you were a kid, you watched TV and typical.
And she said, excuse me, what did you say?
And I'm like, nothing.
And she said, no, what did you say?
And I said, when you were a kid, you watched TV.
And she told me this amazing thing.
When she was a kid, there was no TV.
And I couldn't imagine that world.
I mean, it was bizarre.
And so she told me about it and told me what radio is like and how they used to listen to, you know, different radio shows.
And grandpa had an old silvertone radio with a green eye that would light up from behind with a tube.
I have that radio now in my office downstairs.
And so on my eighth birthday, she gave me a collection of albums called The Golden Years of Radio.
And I wore the grooves out of that and listened to The Shadow with Orson Welles, listened to his War of the Worlds and was amazed that with the right person delivering the information, how you could see your imagination coupled with the right person describing things is much more powerful than any movie studio could ever be.
And it's the only medium where it's really, truly one-on-one.
As I'm speaking, you're imagining whatever it is, how I look, what I'm saying, what I'm describing.
And it was, it becomes very, very personal.
About eight or nine years old, I'm working at the bakery and I'm washing all of the pots and pans.
And I hear Paul Harvey, a guy who used to do this.
He was one of the, he's, I think, the best writer in radio ever.
It's extreme economy of words.
He would tell stories in the fewest amount of words, but with his pause and his inflection and the right choice of words, you could see everything.
And I remember I had my hands in the sink and he came on and there had been an air crash in Chicago and it was horrible.
And he said, Chicago O'Hare.
Wait, wait, American Airlines, Chicago O'Hare, 388 dead.
And I remember hearing him the way he said it, I could almost smell the smoke.
And what did he just say to me?
That's when I knew I really wanted to do, to do this.
But nobody was doing radio the way, you know, that I wanted to do it.
And the closest thing I could do was be a DJ and then a morning show host.
And I did that for, I got into radio when I was 13 and was doing mornings by the time I was 18, you know.
But I mean, like, did you, did you at that moment have the vision that, you know, ultimately I want to share information, want to share the news, but you felt like that was the only path forward?
Because I wasn't interested in politics at the time.
You know, at 13, who cares about politics?
Even in my 20s, I was much more interested in the entertainment factor and creating things in people's minds that were entertaining.
So I was really into that and I was successful.
And, you know, back in the 80s, I was probably 22 and making a quarter of a million dollars a year back when a quarter of a million dollars a year was a lot of money.
And I got sucked up into my own bullcrap and all of the just, you know, when you, when you're 16 years old and you hear real legends of a business, say, man, if he's that good now, can you imagine what he's going to be like when he's 25?
And you believe that.
And I became just a horrible monster, just a total monster that thought, you know, thought I knew everything.
It's crazy, though, too, how you say like a quarter mil was a lot back then.
And now I think you're lucky if you can get a dozen avocados for 275.
It really is insane.
And I've even talked about that, how fast things have changed.
We're like, you know, success is has been sort of measured differently now where money and wages haven't gone up to match the success rate.
But obviously, if you're, if you're in this period and you're living like this, is this where you began to craft sort of this like entertainment value?
Because I mean, we're going to get into some of the controversy, some of the successes, et cetera, in your life.
And one thing that I can say that nobody has ever criticized about you is this ability to take information, like you said, and to make it entertaining.
In fact, I think some hosts that we're going to talk about have actually looked to you as that example.
I was also a boss for, I was a program director of the station when I was 19 years old.
And so I saw the business from all sides.
And when you do that, very few people, I mean, I meet millionaires all the time.
Most of them are flat broke because they won't do one part of that formula that will make you a millionaire, will make you a success in whatever you're doing.
You have to understand that it's not just the art form.
If you want to make art and just make it for the art form, good, but don't complain that you can't make any money.
You know, don't sell your soul out, but there are ways that you can, you can understand that this is a business.
And if you understand that first, when I got to Fox and I was, I was driven only to tell what I really felt was going on.
Fox, no one had ever in on any cable channel at 5 p.m. ever had any ratings.
Okay.
Within a year, I was beating prime time.
And the reason why that happened was I knew if I'm going to tell people about Woodrow Wilson, I better make it entertaining.
And it was all my radio experience that gave me the ability and the knowledge to be able to break all the rules and make things entertaining.
No, I went to the doctor and he said he did some blood tests and he came back and he said, whatever it is you're putting in your body, you need to stop.
And I said, what do you mean?
And he said, your liver.
He's like, I don't know what you're putting in.
You just told me you don't really drink and you don't do drugs.
And I just saw your liver functions.
You do one of those?
Probably both.
And I said, no, it's not out of control.
I knew it was.
He said, well, you better stop it.
You have about six months to live.
Eight months after that, I finally stopped.
But it wasn't because of, I mean, I spent probably a year and a half trying to stop.
You know, what people don't understand about alcoholism is you are truly powerless until you admit you're powerless.
And it is this horrible cycle that you try to stop and you can't.
And you'll say, today, I'm not going to drink.
Today, I'm not going to drink.
And by, you know, five o'clock for me, five o'clock in the afternoon, I had found an excuse to start drinking that night and stop tomorrow.
And then every day you'd get up and I'd look at the mirror and I'd go, what the hell happened?
You said yesterday you weren't going to drink.
Today, don't drink.
And by the time, you know, a year or year and a half goes by, I couldn't walk into the bathroom.
I had to open up the mirror so it was facing the wall so I didn't look at myself.
You just become self-loathing and it drives you deeper and deeper and deeper.
And you want to stop.
I wanted to stop for a long time.
Couldn't.
Couldn't.
And, you know, it's kind of like what I feel about the country.
We first have to admit that we have a problem and we want to change and then realize we can't do anything about it.
And everything we've tried doesn't work.
So we have to change our thinking entirely.
And that finally happened to me.
I was probably 30, 32, maybe when I stopped.
And it was because I was lying to my children.
I was having blackouts, which, you know, I love TV shows.
They're like, oh, I had a blackout.
Did we do that last night?
Shut up.
You absolutely know.
If you had a blackout, the reason why you have a blackout is because your body has taken in so much poison, so much alcohol or whatever it is, that it can no longer function entirely.
So it starts shutting things off.
So it shuts down, you know, processing just to keep you moving, just to keep you alive and moving.
All right.
So it's not like, oh, I drank a lot last night.
I had a blackout.
When you have a blackout, it'll scare the living crap out of you because you have no idea what happened.
You don't, you did, you didn't even think about it until I was sitting at my breakfast table and I had been having blackouts for a while.
And my daughter said, Dad, tell us the story of Inky Blinky and Stinky, which was three little mice.
I would make up a story every night.
I didn't remember the story.
I didn't remember taking them upstairs.
I didn't remember kissing them goodnight.
I remembered nothing.
And I said, well, let's see how much you remember.
You tell me the story of Inky Blinky and Stinky.
And as they both sat there and told me the story, all I could think of is, what the hell is wrong with you, dude?
What is wrong with you?
You're now lying to your children.
You don't even remember.
What are you doing?
And that night I ended up at an AA meeting and my life changed.
I found God actually, I mean, I've always been spiritual.
I've always, you know, I was raised Catholic, went to a Catholic church, yada, yada.
But I always had a real deep connection with God.
When I decided to get into radio about eight years old, I remember hearing what you do will be a pivot point.
And I didn't know what that meant, but it led to a lot of problems in my life because that coupled with, you know, ego and everything else, I thought I was on a divine mission and whatever.
Anyway, and then everything I would try to do, it would just, I would just miss it.
I'd have an idea and then somebody right before I could do it did it.
And so, you know, in my 30s when I sober up, I read something from Thomas Jefferson.
And he said, it was in a letter to Peter Carr, his nephew.
And he told him, you know, all the things you have to do to be a man and to be a well-educated man.
And it was all the different topics, mathematics, literature, everything else.
And then the last one was religion.
And it said, when it comes to religion, above all things, fix reason firmly in her seat and question with boldness the very existence of God.
For if there be a God, he must surely rather honest questioning over blindfolded fear.
The time I read that, I was just beginning to sober up.
I was terrified of the things that were in my past that I didn't want to look at.
I didn't want to look at my mom's suicide.
I didn't want to look at any of that.
And you have to if you're going to sober up.
You have to deal with everything.
And also around that time, I was reading Carl Sagan's book, Demon Haunted World.
It describes today.
If you read that now, he is describing in the 90s today.
And I was fascinated by it.
And he was talking about how, you know, demons and witches and warlocks are going to come back because technology is going to move at such a pace.
Most people will just go, can you fix this?
And you won't know how to fix it.
You won't know how it even works.
And he was comparing it to the church, you know, from the medieval days.
And I don't remember what it was, but he said something in it where it was a slam on the church.
And I closed the book and I actually threw it across the room.
And I thought, where the hell did that come from?
What is in me that made me so angry about talking about a church I don't even go to anymore?
Where is that coming from?
I read the Thomas Jefferson thing and I realized I don't really even know God at all.
I mean, I believe everything I believe, who I vote for, you know, what I like, you name it, anything, anything.
It wasn't really me.
It was either I had been taught that by someone, but nothing was, I didn't own anything.
All my beliefs were really just a regurgitation of something that I had seen, heard, or was taught.
And I went, yeah, that's pretty good.
And so I started questioning with boldness and I became an agnostic and said, God, I don't know you.
I think you exist, but I'm going to reject either side.
I'm going to go and find you if you exist.
Because if you exist, you will help somebody who's honestly looking for you.
You'll help them find you.
And, you know, the other thing is, is you won't be pissed at me.
You know what I mean?
If it's honest, you won't be pissed at me for looking or questioning you.
You're like my dad.
So I went agnostic and I then went to the bookstore and I put a council together.
My wife used to call it the library of a serial killer because it was everyone who could possibly the best at their field or best at their peak of the knowledge, but they vehemently disagreed with each other.
Carl Sagan and the Pope vehemently disagree with each other.
Great.
I want to put a council together that will give me both sides and no strawman arguments, but the real argument on everything.
And that really changed my life.
Because if you take everything you think you believe out, it's scary because you think then I'm just left with me and I'm not sure if there's anything of value in there.
That's at least what I was thinking.
And when you really take it out to do an honest search, once you say, okay, that's the truth, then you put it in.
But if it doesn't match with something else that you think is the truth, if they clash at all, one of the two are wrong.
And sometimes I feel like that is also, like you said, what can bring people to God is when you finally get to that point when there's no solution inside yourself.
Like there's no way to attain that peace.
And I just want to ask you, it's kind of interesting.
So you're LDS.
And, you know, my opinion doesn't really matter.
I mean, I, I, about, about that per se, but I am curious.
Oh, I am a, I, I've, I've said in front of the church leaders with a thousand Mormons in the room, this is the last place I ever thought I would be or want to be.
I am the most reluctant Mormon you've ever met because it's not fun.
It's not like, hey, that's cool.
You're a Mormon.
It's not like you walk into any other church or any other faith and they don't look at you like you are a pariah.
It's the last place I want to be.
However, I started my search honest questions.
Now you can ask honest questions, but then when you start giving answer, getting answers, are you going to take those answers?
For instance, there was a time I was reading a book called Blacklisted by History, and it was about the McCarthy era.
And I started reading it and about, oh, I don't know, a chapter or two in, I realized if I believe this book, then the things I believe about our government in America, I'm going to have to take out and re-examine.
And I was so tired.
And I'm like, I don't know if I want to even go through that.
You know, I want to believe in my country, et cetera, et cetera.
I closed the book.
I actually called the author and I spent about 45 minutes with him on the phone, just making sure he wasn't a conspiracy freak, that he wasn't, you know, that he had his faculties, you know what I mean?
And these were facts.
And I talked to him about his process, et cetera, et cetera.
Then I opened up the book.
It did change the way I looked at America, but I could have taken that and just read it and went, wow, that sounds true.
And then not connected it and not have it change me.
If when you find what you think is truth that changes you, you can reject it or you can embrace it.
And every time, for me at least, every time I feel I hear from God, it's always things that I'm like, oh, crap.
Yeah, and I was wanting to ask you, yeah, with the idea of that being separate, is, you know, I believe that, you know, people all around the world can find God and sometimes not, you know, have a connection to a specific group or a body.
Like, I mean, I do believe that genuinely that God reveals himself to man.
It literally says that in the Bible.
And there's been moments too.
I mean, even if you go back to like Abram and you look at that, I mean, when he was serving, I believe, the moon God, and then the God of the God of the world says, you know, I want you to follow me.
I'm the light of the world, right?
I'm not the moon God.
Like, basically, I'm the sun.
I'm light.
And not to focus on darkness.
And so when he's called out of Ur or whatever and brought into the wilderness, I know that God has interesting ways of leading people.
But an interesting thing would be that people say, okay, you're pursuing truth.
And a lot of people question, like, how there's obviously, you know, you know, the criticisms historically, geographically, et cetera, of, of Mormonism.
I'm not going to go so deep into this, but how have you sort of come to terms with some of the more difficult criticisms of Mormons' ideology and worldview, being that you are somebody who so much sees through bullshit, so much is able to tell the truth.
You got it wrong sometimes, like every human does, but obviously this is your faith.
Because my belief is in Jesus Christ as the savior of the world.
There is no salvation, and I am proof positive.
I was a nasty, dark guy that was just twisted inside.
There's nobody that needed baptism and the salvation and repentance that only the Lord can give than me.
I remember I stood in the waters of baptism and I cried as I was baptized.
I know that's not unusual for me sometimes, but it was a cry to him.
I, in my head, I said horrible things I shouldn't have said to him.
And that was, you promise me, you promise me your own words that you will take away my sins.
You will take away all of the things that going on in my head, all of these things, and you will take them from me as long as I do exactly what you say.
I will do that.
And here's where I shouldn't have said, I will do that.
I will not break my promise.
But if you don't keep yours, you're not God.
Don't ever challenge God and say that you won't be the one that breaks the promise because I'm the only one that has broken any promise with him.
But he did take all of that away from me.
All of it.
All of it.
In a stunning fashion.
And because my faith is rooted in that, I know who God is.
Giovanni, I don't want to go too much further than this, but I do want to say, because it is just interesting.
And the point of this is, by the way, if you are a blind viewer, which is our listeners, somebody on podcasts and you're not blessed with the lovely face of Mr. Beck here, or if you are, you know, somebody, obviously, maybe you're a religious.
I love this audience, by the way, of the show.
It's such a plethora of people.
Then, all I got to say is you have a sick appetite if you watch this show for some to roast some very twisted things.
And I appreciate that thick skin and sense of humor.
But with the religion argument and with faith, it is interesting, though, as being somebody who is LDS, that you focus more on Christ and the work of Christ than just the church itself.
You know, and that's what I was going to say is I want to get into that in the future, but obviously I want to transition into your career so that we can go ahead and get into quite a bit of your ideology, some of the stuff evergreen on today's events that are going on, because your mind is fascinating and people might not be familiar with you.
And I think what's crazy about your life is I would say about three, four years ago, bring up the name Glenn Beck to anyone under 25 who now people know who you are again that are young.
Like, I mean, I don't know what happened, but I mean, it changed.
And I think it's because in some ways, as we'll talk about later, it's like weird that you hear some of the same topics now being talked about by Alex Jones and by Glenn Beck, but the sources are the same.
I mean, it's still the same foundation of what's going on.
The world has gotten into a very strange place.
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I'm going, as we look at your transition and career, I did not know from when I started with this advertiser that the ad was going to switch from like, choose better meat to like, hey, this is the best meat, but it might be the only meat you can get.
That's why, let's jump into this because, you know, when someone like you says that, it is so much more serious than even myself, simply because if you've looked at the decades of what's been going on and you see the plans and you've seen everywhere where they've rolled out and where they've been successful, you might want to start believing that they're going to keep following through with their plans if they've been doing it for decades.
Let's just jump into your, to your, to your career more after your worldview.
I used to go national and replace Dr. Laura on radio on the syndicated network.
And it was supposed to happen 2000 to January 2002.
I just signed a contract in August.
And then 9-11 happened.
I mean, I was going to get into a shark tank and swim with a shark on the Friday after 9-11 for charity.
Obviously, thank God that never happened.
Okay.
But that's kind of where my head was then.
And the network called and said, why the hell aren't you on the network now?
And I'm like, because that's not my decision.
That's your decision.
And then I got 15 minutes later, I get a call from the network and they said, you're on starting Friday.
And I was like, whoa, what?
And I'm still watching the rubble being cleared.
And I mean, you know, it was 9-11, no answers.
And all that week, I was on my knees praying, you have the wrong guy.
I don't have anything to say.
I don't even know.
I never paid attention to this stuff.
I don't know.
I'm just beginning to learn.
I had spent three years studying things and getting serious about it.
And I'm thinking, who am I to be on the radio and say anything?
And so that first day on national radio, I said, look, you don't know me, but there's one thing that I will promise you.
I will never tell you something that I don't think is true or I don't know.
If I don't know, I'll tell you I don't know, but I promise you I will find the answer.
But you're just going to have to kind of go on this journey with me because I don't know.
I don't know.
And I did serious work, serious work.
What's interesting is in 1999, I was on the Air and WABC in New York, and the conservatives turned against me.
I was just a weekend guy, so they didn't know who I was.
And Bill Clinton had bombed an aspirin factory, and everybody said, Oh, he's trying to get off the front page with Monica Lewinsky.
But I looked into it, he was trying to kill a guy called Osama bin Laden.
Nobody had ever heard of him.
I didn't even know how to pronounce his name correctly.
I think I called him Osama bin Laden.
And I said, You know, this is what everybody is talking about: is that, you know, this is just Bill Clinton.
But I actually looked into this guy and I read what he said.
And he believes this.
And he's telling us right now what he's going to do to us.
And for an hour, I took phone calls trying to convince people.
They wouldn't listen.
And the very end of the hour, I said, let me tell you something.
Within a decade, there will be blood bodies and buildings in the streets of Manhattan, and it will have his name on it.
Mark my word.
Take people at their word.
When they say they're going to do something, especially like, I'm going to kill you, or I'm going to imprison you, or I'm going to make sure that you can't work because you don't have the right opinion.
Believe them.
Because if you do believe them and they don't do it, no loss.
If you don't believe it and they do do it, you're screwed.
Well, and this is interesting because you predicted this shortly before Alex Jones was talking about it, and people were seeing it.
But of course, I want to talk to you.
I really wanted to know your mindset.
You know, obviously, you've been in this for decades and people change.
But after this occurred, this event shook America.
I mean, that's the wrong even phrase.
There's no way to describe it.
There is an America pre-9-11.
There's an America post-9-11.
But I might be wrong on this, but you really took a personal strong stance against people who would be called like 9-11 truthers, people who said that it was like some sort of an inside job, whether we caused it or allowed it to happen.
I took a stance against those who said steel doesn't melt.
Well, how do you make those big beams if steam if steel doesn't melt?
However, when you talk about building number seven, which is not the tower, but that one collapsed at five o'clock in the afternoon.
That one wasn't hit by a plane.
That one collapsed.
Why did that collapse?
That's where the FBI headquarters were.
That's where that one you can talk about and look at and say, what happened there?
And I think there's room there to be able to say, yeah, there might have been something here.
That we blew up the two towers or orchestrated that is too far for me to even believe.
Now, what bothered me was Sandy Berger.
I don't know if you remember any of this, but he was a Clinton aide and he was, I can't remember what his job was.
Maybe NSA.
I can't remember what his job was, but he went into the National Archives shortly after.
And he went in and he asked for the records of the first Bush and the Clintons.
And he took papers and he stuffed them in his underwear.
And he actually got to across the street and he destroyed some of those documents by the time he had gotten across the street.
They nailed him across the street.
Well, he didn't go to prison.
I would have.
You would have.
He didn't go to prison.
And his top secret clearance was only taken away for like a year.
Excuse me?
I'm stealing records from the White House.
And you're not going to arrest me.
And I can get my national security clearance back.
Nobody ever explained it, but I do believe, not that we had planned it or anything else, we were in bed with Saudi Arabia.
Saudi Arabia was absolutely responsible for this.
They knew, I think, everybody over in the Middle East, one way or another.
But through the Mahadine, I can't even do that.
Yes, thank you.
Through that, we created them.
Just like the Nazi units over in Ukraine, we may have one step, one step away from actual creation of them, but we were there when that group was created and enlisted to go fight for Ukraine.
We were there.
It's just what did we overlook?
What did we actually do?
I don't think we brought the World Trade Centers down.
We may have building number seven, but not the two towers.
It is, well, what's interesting, like you're mentioning about this, is that would have been very unpopular at the time to really look into this because this is mass casualty event.
And I mean, with COVID now, I think people are waking up and realizing that didn't live through the communist revolutions or whatever has happened, even the Cold War, realize that governments are not on your side.
They don't love you.
They don't like you.
And many of them don't represent you, which we'll talk about later with the Great Reset.
So when you see this then and you get into this, and that's very interesting because I haven't heard your take on 9-11.
Generationally speaking, I grew up in the era of Reagan, and America was a vastly different place to where we were pretty, hey, yeah, America's great, and we don't ever do anything wrong.
A lot of this information was not available because where are you going to find it?
You're not going online.
It's not found at your local library.
It would have been passed to you in some mimeograph or Xeroxed piece of paper.
Or you had, or those people were the ones that are the tinfoil hat people that you would see and they're always passing out.
Hey, did you know this?
You couldn't verify it.
They couldn't verify it.
And you didn't know what to think because everything that you were spoon fed and you had no other way to gain information, the way you were spoon-fed, you absolutely believed that it would never happen in this country.
It could never happen.
Up until after 9-11, I always thought that Democrats and Republicans were pretty much the same, both pretty useless.
You know, they do the same thing no matter who you voted for, but they both loved the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and America.
That's absolutely not true.
Absolutely not true.
But I didn't figure that one out until after 9-11, maybe three years after 9-11.
And I do want to remind people that the SOBs, which are the slightly offensive backers that are listening, that it's okay to have a moment where you were asleep and you didn't know what was going on because bad moments and crises have one major positive effect that I believe that we can look to rather than being doomers is oftentimes things can get so ridiculous and so out of hand that it almost shocks people out of sleep into realizing what's happening.
I mean, I really want to chant three more years, three more years.
I mean, we have three more years to go.
This is just year one.
I don't know how we make it, but I will tell you, we would have had the same argument back and forth about Donald Trump.
He's this, he's that.
No, he's not.
Yes, he is.
Would have had that.
And things would have gone relatively bad.
This in Ukraine would not have been happening.
This guy has done such extreme things that Democrats, not progressives, and especially not Marxists, but Democrats are now looking at it going, what the hell is this?
Yeah, and it's actually almost quite funny watching Connalisa Rice nod her head in agreement that the invasion of a sovereign country without UN Security Council approval is a war crime and she should be held responsible or watching Nancy Pelosi talk about how we know we can beat Russia because they couldn't win in Afghanistan.
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And you're going, I mean, have you looked in the mirror?
I don't know if we have, I don't know if we're pulling up later or putting it in post, but we have this, this Forbes cover.
And by 2010, you go through this from 9-11 to 2010.
Sure, a few things happened.
You ate a few meals, things went down.
But all of a sudden, you know, around this time, it's, I mean, you're a you have a radio show, you're a nightly Fox news show, you're a book publishing division, a clothing line, a charity, Mercury One.
You start running Glenn Beck TV.
How did you go from somebody who was a talk shower or DJ, et cetera, into becoming one of the most influential people within 10 years like that in politics?
I mean, this is pretty much unheard of.
Select few people.
And I'm lucky to be sitting here with one of them.
As we're seeing right now on the screen, clearly, before the internet, before podcasting, you definitely shook cable news up to an extent that I think some people were both fascinated and some people were both frightened.
And then when I went to Fox, it was just, it was different there for a while.
And then two years into it, a year and a half into it, I got the speech.
You know what your problem is?
No.
You won't play the game.
And I said, because it's not a game for me.
I actually believe these things.
Look, we all believe in the Constitution, but there are things that we have to do and we all have to come together on it.
And that's when I realized, holy cow, I've risen to the height as high as I will be able to rise because there are gates you have to go through.
I never believed that you could be president.
You could be president if you wanted to.
I never believed there was a stop.
Oh, there is a stop.
If you don't kiss the right rings and do the right things, there's only so far you'll be able to go up.
It's a pretty high place, but it is a definite stop.
And that really freaked me out.
And it also freaked me out that I was starting to really like it.
You know, there's nothing I knew the White House was watching every single episode, every night, live.
I mean, I knew Secret Service agents that were there in the oval, and they would tell me, you know, what they were saying about my shows.
And so I knew them and I had them dead to rights.
And when you can just shift your weight a little bit and just shift your weight and look at the camera and go, that doesn't really make sense now, does it?
And you see the White House respond, it's very intoxicating.
It's very intoxicating.
And if you don't have your wits about you and you don't have God as your guide, you will not survive.
Fame, real fame, real power, real money, it's battery acid to the soul, battery acid to the soul.
And when they started telling me what I could and couldn't say about Israel, they told me I can't use the word God on the air anymore.
And yeah, and then three months later, he called me into his office and he said, Do you realize how many times you said God since our last meeting?
Roger Ailes.
And I said, no, you counted.
And he said, damn right, 92 times or 97 times.
And I was like, huh.
I am who I am.
I am who I am.
God is going to play a huge role in saving our country.
If we don't have God at the center, we're done.
There is no other answer than God.
And so when all that stuff happened, we kind of parted ways with a gun to each other's head.
And, you know, the nicest thing is I promised God and myself that I would never, one of my mantras is, there are many things that I believe that I shall never say, but I shall never say the things I do not believe.
And when you have that as your center, you scare the hell out of people because you don't ever threaten.
You make promises.
Look, if you do this, you pay me this, I'll go and do that.
I'll work for you.
Don't bluff.
Don't say, oh, it's going to take that.
Just tell the truth.
This is what it's going to take.
And if they're not interested and they don't want to pay you that, then you're fine because that's what you said it would take.
You just have to be real on what it really is.
But when Roger, after really the first negotiation with me, he realized I don't play games.
I don't negotiate.
I tell you what it's going to take and that's what it's going to be.
And I'll tell you exactly what I'm going to do.
And I will live up to what I'm going to do for you.
I was very sensitive that it was not my network.
It was theirs.
So I played by some of their rules, you know, without selling out.
Like you said, being a business, it's a very fine line.
When you work for a network, you do understand where some boundaries are, but you do realize, which you did, that you can affect the change too that you want to see.
But you've got to play strategy because in every game, it's a war.
And I think one of the unfair judgments to people in media, expecting them to be like, God, as I go, can you walk up to your boss and say, hey, you asshole, I want to raise and I hate my job.
No, you use that kind of language.
You end up talking like that.
Bro, you're going to get fired too.
And everyone needs to earn a living.
But it's so fascinating because I feel like you are the exact kind of person who would get fired from network TV because I fired network and I don't know why.
It is interesting that you mentioned that because as much as people might look at where, you know, where Blaze is at right now, where it's going, there's a lot of people, especially I've seen this audience, went from like last year from 10% or a little bit less than 10% Gen Z and now we're like a quarter Gen Z.
And so it's, you know, the next generations are growing and they don't know what the media scape was like before all the censorship, before everything.
And so it's like, when you started Blazo, Blaze was meant to be a broadcast network on the internet, right?
So you started an internet show and it was laughable at that time.
And I mean, this is why Google came to me a year into it and was saying, we are studying what you're doing because nobody thought this was reasonable at all.
What I had to do was convince people.
Remember, this is at a time, I don't know if you remember this, when you had buffering.
I was in college at this time and I just definitely know that, you know, we were still, I mean, even when I graduated college, we were still writing our tests.
I mean, we didn't wear using computers till like, you know, 2017, 2018 in college.
I mean, so 2010, 2011, the internet's not very fast.
And so what's kind of interesting with this is, you know, you went all in and you're here and we saw the billboard, et cetera, and you're running this.
You said that, but you kind of like put a lot of money into it.
And I don't know what the hell I'm doing running a network.
And I hired a bunch of people that I thought knew what they were to do, but it was a nightmare because at the height of the time we were trying to really go after networks, I think we had 350 employees and they were all on my time.
They were all on my salary.
And it was terrifying.
Every decision we made, every time it wouldn't grow, we were probably 10 years early.
You know, look at it now.
Now's the time to launch something massive like that.
Not back then.
So we were 10 years early.
And I needed to make it until time caught up with us.
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So, we get into this.
And, you know, I know we're not going to talk about this today.
And it's not because Glenn told me not to, but obviously there's issues with Tommy Larry and with different people.
Things have been settled recently.
But there's nothing more interesting to me than this moment to when you get to the election of Donald Trump.
Okay.
This is such an interesting moment.
And with the weird parts of our lives, or when we've changed our mind, it's like we always have to answer for it.
Reminding you to the young people, you can make mistakes and there's redemption, but humans are going to ask you to answer for it forever.
I got involved more back in like 2008, you know, and started realizing that Obama, the deception of what was going on, this move towards socialism and where we are moving as a country.
But I'm young, and all of a sudden I'm like, the GOP is lame.
They're boring.
Like it's, they're just fat in suits and they don't have, they repeat each other's talking points.
I'm like, I know I'm not a weirdo liberal, but I'm also like kind of this new wave of people that have the internet.
I have information that people didn't have.
I can question events, right?
I don't need the news to tell me.
And Trump comes along, this crazy guy that no one thinks can win.
And, you know, I was one of the early adopters of him.
So you got to remember, I'm one of the guys, the early Tea Party.
Okay.
So this going back to 2008, I thought the bums in Washington should all be thrown out.
However, I also in 2007 watched Obama and I said on CNN: if this guy becomes president, he is so slick and so perfect and buttoned up that our next president, because we always go to extremes, our next president will be a guy who's eaten fried chicken.
He might fart in the middle of a speech and he'll be like, yeah, I do that sometimes.
And everyone will embrace him.
He'll be the exact opposite of Barack Obama.
That's what we had.
That was Donald Trump.
So I'm always very concerned about the swings.
And I was very concerned because I kind of left the Tea Party and didn't really involved, very involved at first, and then kind of just stayed my distance from it because it wasn't about principles and values.
And all of our fix has they have to come from the Constitution and our principles.
Who are we?
What do we really believe?
And those are the hard things.
I don't, I have to stand up for the people who for Rashida Tlaib.
She has a right to say what she says.
I will never stand with anyone who wants to ban her ever.
I despise everything that comes out of her mouth.
I think she's extraordinarily dangerous.
But I believe in the First Amendment and she has a right to say it.
And I will die defending her.
Okay.
Those are principles.
Ted Cruz at the time, I knew his father quite well, who had come from Cuba and everything else.
And I knew Ted knew the Bill of Rights and the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence inside and out.
At the time, I believed he would take a bullet for it and make sure that nothing, nothing he did was outside of that framework.
Donald Trump, I don't know if he even read any of our documents.
You know, he kind of shoots from the hip.
And, you know, he had said in the past to his Democratic friends, if I ever run, I'm going to run as a Republican because they're so stupid, they'll believe anything.
Okay.
And I thought that was really telling.
And I didn't see a pivot point.
I'm very, very, very interested in people's pivot points.
Tell me, tell me when you changed your mind.
Tell me when you had that epiphany.
And if you can't tell me what the room color was or where you were in the room or where you were in, you know, in life, who was there?
How did you come to that conclusion?
If you can't tell me that, I don't believe your pivot.
Because any big pivot is pretty life-changing.
It's pretty big.
You know, I was, I used to believe in abortion.
Now I don't.
What changed your mind there?
Okay.
And I hadn't seen any pivot points from his liberal self to what he was claiming he was going to be.
So I was very against him because I thought it would be a one-term president and then we would get Hillary or whoever and it would be worse because I thought we would have an economic breakdown, not of COVID.
I just thought we would have an economic breakdown before then.
We didn't.
And he did the things that he said he was going to do.
I said on the air the day he was elected, I don't think this is going to happen, but if he does the things that he says he's going to do, I will admit it.
I'll be the first.
I want to be wrong.
Okay.
Really didn't think I was going to be wrong.
I was wrong.
And when he said that we're going to move the embassy to Israel and we're going to open it in six months, when I saw the ribbon cutting on that, on that embassy, I knew I was wrong.
He, there's nobody, I don't think Ted Cruz would have done that.
This guy is very, very loyal to those who support him.
He'll slit your throat if you're against him, but he is very loyal to those people.
When I talked to him at Mar-a-Logo here, just, I don't know, four weeks ago.
People don't realize that there's a bit of an understanding you have a role to play, but it is, it is, and I find this interesting too, that Trump did prove a lot of people wrong and he did make some mistakes.
And I think on the side note to mention, people know my criticisms of him, you know, with this warp speed program and also some of his advisors and some issues that he had with the wall.
He's not a man of perfection.
But I do want to say this, you know, some of the more modern stuff, and as things have pivoted, I've always respected that from you is that you're just willing to admit when you get it wrong, which is, which is like, you go, look, I was incorrect, but I didn't approach this with narcissism.
Like I didn't say, I'm right and I will be right.
It's like, this is what I'm seeing is the right thing.
Well, yeah, and that's what I want to talk about is in the midst of this, where we're at now, where you've actually been on the money for a long time, where people have been ignoring this.
Post-COVID, in the middle of all of this, whether you believe it's real or fake, it's a bioweapon or it's not.
And whether or not you take this drug to fix it or it's a five boosters, the point is the world has vastly changed.
It has rapidly deteriorated and a police state has emerged, as well as a myriad of other issues, which you've covered in quite a few specials on the Great Reset, something that I've been very interested in that I've been following for years.
Didn't think it would be this visible, this quickly.
Well, I learned from my grandparents what World War I was like.
That's devastating.
And I said at the time when I made this chalkboard, war is always the catalyst for massive change because it allows elites to make the changes they've always wanted to make.
And no one at the end of the war either remembers what it was really like before the war or they're just so glad to receive some kind of normalcy that they'll be fine.
They'll be fine.
We are at that place.
I am really concerned that this is the last emergency that will be used to bring down the, we have to collapse into the net they've already made, which is the great reset.
And if we don't stand up, get our money out of these big banks, stop funding these giant companies that are deeply involved, stop doing business with big banks.
If we don't defund them en masse quickly, we're funding our own slavery.
And we will be eating bugs.
I know this is crazy, but we will be eating bugs by 2030.
Yeah, I think I saw the other day that I think maybe it was like 10 days ago that for what was considered the middle class before the pandemic, certain cuts of beef are now considered a luxury and not a commodity.
And so it is so fascinating that, you know, two years ago, like beef will become a luxury.
And it's like, it is now.
I've stopped really, for the most part, eating steak.
I'm like, I'm not going to spend 73 bucks for four, you know, four New York small cuts.
I can keep my ranch going because I make money not as a rancher.
Okay.
But I don't even know if I can get fertilizer or feed or anything to grow the crops to feed the cows next year.
Even if I paid 300% more for fertilizer, I don't know if I'll get any fertilizer.
There's going to be a anywhere from a 70 to 30 percent yield in crops coming this summer and this fall.
That's going to drive the price of everything.
And when I heard somebody say a couple of years ago that beef will be in just a few years only for the very, very rich and it will be a luxury, I said over my dead body, not thinking that they had this all wrapped up.
You know who said that?
Two, two of the CEOs of the four meat processing plants.
There's only four in America.
Okay.
Two of the CEOs said that.
Out of the four, two companies are making, you know, the mystery meat.
They're making the, you know, I can't believe this isn't beef.
They're making that.
The other two are, oh, gosh, I can't remember.
But the other two are incentivized as well to stop beef.
It's, it's insanity what's going on.
They're telling us what they're doing.
It's the meat processing plants that are making all of the money and they are nickel and diming the farmers.
You're not going to have ranches.
You're not going to have beef farms.
You won't have farmers because they're putting them under.
Well, and to not be an alarmist to people, but to put it in perspective, in late 2019, speaking to John McCaffey, late John McCaffey, who's who is now deceased, and there's questions about his death as well.
Besides him telling me that he was not suicidal and to always be aware of what he said was going to come true.
Before the pandemic started, he said that there was going to be in the near future, the elites were planning a time where food was going to become unaffordable and it was going to become hard to access and the prices were going to skyrocket so much that they're not going to be able to control them and that it could become a luxury to have bread.
And I thought, that guy's whack, kind of.
I was like talking, I was like, I don't know what the hell you're talking about.
And it's so strange.
Not only is he dead now, but we're in this exact position where you could see it happening.
Do you know how crazy it is?
This is so crazy.
I bought these 12 pack of local waters.
These are carbonated waters from Texas.
I'm trying to support like a local small business.
And they're like mineral water.
I watched it in my cart at Whole Foods jump from $8.99 to like, it was like $11 or $12.
I don't remember.
Like water.
Water is more locally sourced water went up.
Obviously, I know it's shipping and labor and the bottles and different things, but I'm going, wow, I'm having to pay 20 to 30% more overnight for water bottles.
And the crisis that has unfolded so rapidly, due to the time and wanting to respect your schedule for today, I kind of wanted to shape this into what's your advice moving forward for specifically like there's so many young people getting involved, so many people who are older who are just waking up.
I mean, it's getting more terrible.
So the shockwave of people getting out of their sleep is thankfully at a higher volume than I expected, of people just like waking up.
But I'm also disappointed because the same people who just woke up off the pandemic are now buying the Ukraine-Russia narrative without questioning anything about what this might lead to, where this might go.
And so I still see that that hold of keeping people asleep is still there.
But for those that are awake, I mean, what advice do you have to us as Americans, the ones that see what's going on, we feel alienated?
So the first thing is don't stone those you disagree with if it's an honest disagreement.
Embrace anyone who will embrace the Bill of Rights.
And that has to be through action.
If you're just saying, no, I believe in freedom of speech, but this guy.
No, let me see you.
Are you taking the bullets for standing up for people who are not on your team?
Don't if somebody lies to you once, consider them a liar and don't listen to them anymore.
Why are you watching mainstream media?
We know they have lied to us over and over again.
We know the Fed has lied to us over and over again.
We know the lies that our government has said.
Stop listening to what they're telling you to do because they clearly have demonstrated themselves as being dishonest.
And the only reason to be dishonest with somebody is because your worldview or your goals don't match mine.
So I'm trying to make you think that we're one.
We're not.
These people are not for life as we understand it as individual having an individual right to choose our own path.
I would move to places where you can find yourself with good, decent, God-fearing people, especially small little towns that have farms.
We're going to need it, and you're going to need a community to stand with you.
And if you are in a place where you're the odd man out, move now.
You're not going to make it if you're surrounded by a bunch of people who think you're the problem.
When you're talking to people and you're saying, hey, this is what's really going on, leave them the facts.
Invite them.
Don't try to twist their arm.
Invite them to do their own homework and then move on.
If they don't, leave them behind.
There's too many other people to wake up.
When it comes to money, gold, I think silver is even more important, but gold is important.
Bitcoin is also important.
Don't know what's going to happen with either of them.
But I know the dollar is just, forget about the catastrophic collapse, which is coming.
The dollar will lose at least 10% over the next seven years.
I have that from an insider at the treasury.
And he said, that's best case scenario.
Your dollar will be worthless.
So if you know that, the way to the way the Germans, I've studied a lot about Germany in the Weimar Republic.
What went wrong?
What led to Hitler?
But what did people do?
Young 20-somethings made out really well.
Because have you noticed while everything is going to hell in a handbasket, our stock market keeps going up.
Have you noticed that?
When you close the world, no business, the stock market doesn't crash.
How is that possible?
That's possible because it's all funny money.
It's all money from the Fed and from the institutions that are just trying to keep themselves going.
They're enriching themselves right now.
That will come to an end at one point.
But the young people in Weimar knew that and they could take half of their salary and put it into the stock market and get rich.
The average person had to buy food for their family and they broke twice a day to go to the store.
You'd get paid at noon, then you get paid at the end of your shift.
And what happened was you would go immediately to the store because the prices were rising hourly.
You just said water one day to the next, hourly price increases.
And so you have to think of this.
If you have a dollar today that you made a year ago, that dollar is worth probably about 90 cents.
In just the next few months, it will be worth probably about 80 cents.
A year from them, from then, it could be worth 70 or 60 cents.
So everything that you buy, think like the Germans did in the Weimar Republic.
They would go out, the first in the store would buy the food, okay?
But then the stores would be empty.
But the people who came in last, they would still buy whatever was left because they knew their dollar would be worth less than that product.
And hopefully somebody will want that product, you know, down the road that they could trade with.
But they knew this was diminishing so rapidly.
So every time you go into the store, buy two of everything and just store it because you know in six months, just through inflation alone, you will be actually making money.
You will save money because you already bought those products at what then will be a much lower price.
I know someone who just sold their car four years old and they sold it for more than they bought it for.
And that's the insanity.
And also, and then if you buy a new car, it may only be a few thousand dollar price increase if you can get a microchip in your car and you can actually get it delivered to you.
And isn't it weird that the new electric cars, which are full of microchips, okay, they're going to come online.
They're going to be gangbuster.
And we can't buy new or used combustion engines right now.
And it's like the entire fleet in another couple of years will need to be replaced.
Takes 12 years from a new car to the junkyard, generally speaking.
Well, this started in 19.
They want to be green by 2050, but they want to make a huge impact by 2030.
Oh my gosh, that's almost 12 years.
If you can keep people from not buying cars now because they're too expensive, you get these electric cars closer to where they need to be, then let people go out and buy them because those will be plentiful.
These old cars, you're not going to want them anyway.
I know you and I both love a nice car with a nice engine, as most guys do.
I don't know.
I know many guys, many girls do too, but I know many guys who don't like a good engine, good comfort level.
And it is interesting because I was talking to the manufacturer of my car.
And when I ordered it last year, it took a few months to come in, but then he even said, I was like, I might wait a little while.
He kept saying, dude, they're going to go up next year.
So just buy it.
It's the same thing.
He said, buy it now.
I'm glad I did because it went up like somewhere between $7,000 to $15,000 overall in cost with just like upgrades and whatnot.
And I'm like, wow, that's a whole lot of money that you could put into something different just if you waited six to eight months to buy the car.
And I think he sold me the processing time I called him went from three months to nine months to get your vehicle.
So like that's that's the kind of insanity.
That's how quickly it is.
And it does, it does alarm people.
Luckily, just like you, you know, we do have hope in God and we do put our faith in Christ.
And we do know that in the end, if we see the end of ourselves, it is only a blessing to be liberated from this world.
And sometimes the suffering, though, we don't want it to increase.
I do have to say, you know, you have some predictions for the future as we wrap this up.
You know, predicting the end of Fox News.
You've predicted Joe Rogan's future at Spotify.
Um, and you've already talked about you know some great articles people can look up about the three ingredients for the social credit system that's already here.
Um, you've been right on the money, and it and it's been an important time to soak up the wisdom.
Uh, but life is tough, life is crazy.
And I will say this: the best advice you've given me, and I tell people so far, um, is you just told me to choose my allies and choose them wisely and you know, and know when you go to this who you can trust and what's going on.
Because obviously, when it already starts becoming, you know, and I feel bad like what Trump said, not everybody's in a position that doesn't have a fixed income, not everybody's in a position that has an education or an opportunity or grew up in a family where they have the ability to change their income to match what's going on.
And life is becoming incredibly stressful and hard financially for many people, which creates stress in the family, in marriages, and parenting, in the personal life.
Suicides go up, right?
I mean, this stuff can be devastating.
And so, you know, in this world, we are grateful for people like yourself.
And I'm grateful to continue to know that the world could be so rapid that I could be sitting here in six months.
And there's more that's happened in your career in life in the next six months than's happened in the last 20 years in terms of significance because of how rapidly it changes.
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