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Feb. 25, 2022 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Watching The Fall Of Ukraine On TikTok | Guest: Jorge Ventura & George Szamuely | Ep 230

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elijah schaffer
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jorge ventura
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elijah schaffer
Provoked by the United States and NATO forces pushing into the East, of course, we have been weakened by our strategically incompetent leaders as we focus in the West on diversity and inclusivity and making elves black.
We have lost sight of the fact that Russia has emerged once again as a world superpower, a military superpower, and they invaded Ukraine simply because they could.
On that note, welcome back to Slightly Offensive, the best worst show on Blaze TV, where we always have confetti of color.
It doesn't matter if the world's falling down, the confetti won't stop.
We won't stop it.
Here in the studio with me is the amazing journalist, friend, and of course, diversity guest, Jorge Ventura from the Daily Caller.
Welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
jorge ventura
Hey, Elijah, thank you so much for having me.
Look, guys, I'm just here because Blaze TV needs to hit their diversity quota, so I'm the one brown guy for the week.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, what's your shirt say?
jorge ventura
Stop censorship.
We've got all the logos.
We got YouTube, Apple, Google, Facebook, Amazon, all the good stuff.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, it is crazy what's going on, though, because I think a lot of us didn't really believe the Biden administration that Russia was going to invade Ukraine.
It turns out, though, that NATO and the United States were sort of prepping Ukraine to invade the eastern part and sort of take back the Russian provinces.
And so it looks like we're the ones who actually caused this.
jorge ventura
Yeah, I mean, we're basically trying to have more influence on Ukraine, which is like the next-door neighbor to Russia.
It's like if that same country came to Mexico and tried to have all that influence.
And let's not forget to several years ago, you know, Ukraine actually voted in their own Democratic president, their leader, and then the United States government came in and actually overturned them and supported a coup for Zelensky.
So, yeah, I mean, we're basically have been pointing, I mean, kind of poking the bear at Russia all these years.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and I know that you and I, we're both a little bit retarded.
And so it's like we're not experts on this.
And so later in the show, I know that you and I both were able to listen to this amazing expert that we brought in to the show, Dr. Zamuelli, who is neither pro-American nor pro-Russia.
He's just an expert on the conflict.
And he just likes Ukraine pills all of us on where Russia and the United States media are lying about the situation and gives us the most like absolute red pill on what's actually going on.
And we'll get to that a little bit later.
But, you know, we have basically given the best response as the United States to Putin and his invasion.
I know he's really scared because while they have nukes and tanks, we have 17-year-old girls on Instagram asking him to stop.
And we actually have a video that just came in from the Kremlin that shows us Putin's response after he saw some of these Instagram videos of Americans just begging him, Can we play that?
It's actually quite shocking.
Yeah.
This is Putin after seeing all the girls on Instagram just asking him to stop invading.
He's like, oh my God, why didn't I think about that?
Why didn't I think about that?
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Nice.
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Yeah.
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elijah schaffer
It's true.
It's true.
Hey, dude, it's crazy.
We have a front row.
We have a front row view of a war on social media.
We are watching a war unfold and Ukraine fall on TikTok.
Like we went from watching SJWs humiliate themselves to people like just creating TikToks and we're like, oh, as if it's entertainment.
This is freaking nuts.
jorge ventura
You got to love it, dude.
My favorite thing right now is, like I said, all the Hollywood liberals making TikToks and videos of begging Putin to stop.
And I don't know if you've seen that meme yet, Elijah.
It's like, oh, America going to war.
And our tank is pink with the they, them pronouns.
unidentified
I know.
jorge ventura
No, I know.
elijah schaffer
I don't know.
Do we have that video, Savannah, of the elites responding?
Like, obviously, people are really shocked about this and what's going on.
And we have Joy Behar.
jorge ventura
Oh, my God.
elijah schaffer
She actually responded to the war in Ukraine and let us know the real issue and what's the real issue.
Can we go ahead and play that?
sunny hostin
Estimates are 50,000 Ukrainians will be dead or wounded.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
sunny hostin
And that this is going to start a humanitarian crisis, a refugee crisis in Europe.
We're talking about 5 million people that are going to be displaced.
I mean, it's heartbreaking to hear what is going to happen.
unidentified
Well, I'm scared of what's going to happen in Western Europe, too.
Yeah.
You know, you just, you plan a trip.
You want to go there.
I want to go to Italy for four years.
I've had a family because of the pandemic and now this, you know, it's like, who's gonna, what's gonna happen there?
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
savanah hernandez
It's just like you come on a trip to Italy.
It's like you wait your whole life for it.
And then Putin just like comes in and takes over a whole country.
jorge ventura
It's like Putin, can you like, nah?
unidentified
I just can't.
jorge ventura
Like, I don't care.
savanah hernandez
But you love Putin, I know you're trying to invade that, like, I planned a trip.
Like, could you just wait a couple more months?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, they're called the four seasons, not the five seasons.
There's no season for war.
I'm trying to go out, okay?
Dude, the elite's response to this has been making TikToks, asking him to stop.
That video, dude, I don't think we even have that video of that Hollywood elite woman.
unidentified
Yeah, we do.
elijah schaffer
Dude, she was like, she was like, imagine if I was your mom and Putin's like, yeah, all right, everyone, go home.
I, I was raised incorrectly.
She, I mean, these people are so nuts that Elijah, she was mad about the Ukraine war because it ruined her vacation plans.
jorge ventura
No, Elijah, we need the Mexican mom version of, if I was your mother, I would have hit you with a changla, you put it.
elijah schaffer
I am going to say, though, that this is so insane.
jorge ventura
What I love, too, about that video, Elijah, is everyone on the view desk is just shaking their heads.
Like, yeah, yeah, just being a yes, man.
Yeah, yeah, Joe, yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, but this is America's response.
I'm saying, like, this is what's so crazy is the American media, on a serious note, is making this seem like the start of World War III, and that Putin is this aggressor, right?
And anyone who disagrees with the narrative, this is the same thing we saw with Iraq and Afghanistan, is a pro-Putin, pro, as if the USSR is still around.
We're like an anti-American hater rather than truth tellers who are fighting the Warhawks, who so badly are looking for a war to distract us from the insane failures on the home front and what they've been doing.
But unfortunately for them, we have the internet now, we have social media that we didn't have, and we're realizing that in some ways, and I hate to say this, in terms of just international diplomacy, Putin is not in the wrong for what he's doing because this could have been prevented if the United States had not, not only with the CIA, caused a revolution in Ukraine, destabilized the entire country.
But as we know, with Putin being so invested in the procurement and keeping Russian civilization alive, remember that the United States and Western Europe and NATO pushed the church, the Orthodox church in Ukraine to separate itself from the mother church in Russia.
They literally split the religion and tried to take the country away and push all of the Western degeneracy into Ukraine.
And of course, all of that on the border of Russia.
And no wonder why Russia is mad because, of course, with the Warsaw Pact and the agreement, the United States has violated every single one of its agreements.
We pushed every NATO base closer and closer and closer with Estonia and Latvia, et cetera, across the border.
That as we push this offensive in Ukraine, Russia was just like, look, you guys are weak.
You're not going to do anything.
We've emerged strong and we're going to invade because we can.
And we're going to push back and let you know that we're tired of this.
And it's like, I'm not pro-Russia.
Obviously, they're hostile to the United States.
He's not exactly a great leader, but we have no business and no place lecturing him on what he should or should not do when we do the exact same thing.
We literally invaded Iraq without the UN Security Council's approval.
jorge ventura
No, and I think people forget that.
Right now, if you speak out or even just tell the truth of what's happening, all of a sudden you are pro-Putin.
And, you know, Republicans and Democrats in the establishment, they can't even agree that the sky is blue.
But when it comes to sending American troops or pushing for war or pushing for intervention, it's the only time you ever find Republicans and Democrats actually agreeing on this issue.
And it'd be the same thing if Russia was having influence on Mexico.
We would respond the same way.
So Russia is just responding the same way any other country would.
And the thing is, if you even say anything like that remotely like that, all of a sudden you're pro-Putin.
And like I said, just pay attention to the politicians.
Anytime you can find a Democrat or Republican to agree on an issue, it's a huge red flag.
This is the only issue Republicans and Republicans and Democrats are agreeing, like a Lindsey Graham, like a Mitch McConnell, who have been praising Biden's response to this so far.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and you wonder why they feel emboldened?
Let's take a look at the current state of the West at our cartridge, right?
So they invaded, and let's look at some tweets here.
So we have this individual who's like, might get canceled for this one, but this aesthetic feels so special.
We have a war aesthetic.
I get that you might worry about the situation if you are Russian or Ukrainian, but the rest of the world should just enjoy the apocalypse vibes.
jorge ventura
We're just vibing.
elijah schaffer
Events like this are rare and we should live the moment.
jorge ventura
Just live, laugh, love, Elijah.
It's just vibes.
It's not the only one.
The aesthetic.
elijah schaffer
Dude, this is the new thing, the Ukrainian war aesthetic.
This is going on.
jorge ventura
The war aesthetic.
Oh, that's my favorite one.
elijah schaffer
I'm sorry, y'all.
But why are bombings in Ukraine are so aesthetically pleasing?
Like, it's giving retro alternative he him by kid.
Thank you, Russia, for helping me find new aesthetic.
unidentified
We just give pronouns to the freaking bombs in new banks.
elijah schaffer
Bisexual bombs.
That's the United States.
We drop bisexual bombs.
jorge ventura
It's the aesthetic.
It's just the vibes.
savanah hernandez
Vibes, bro.
Like, have you ever had your city bombed and then you had to sing in like a bomb shelter with your friends because you couldn't live?
elijah schaffer
I mean, we're survived.
I didn't think that we would find a way to laugh about a war in Ukraine, but if there's a show that's going to laugh about it, it's going to be this one because it's so ridiculous.
jorge ventura
And I wouldn't expect anything less, Elijah.
elijah schaffer
Anything less.
Look, we do have the expert coming on soon who it's very serious and really genuinely like updates you.
But I'm sorry.
Like, I can't laugh at stop it, laugh at the absurdity in the United States.
And like, this is why they invaded.
It's like, this is the best time to do so.
Like, the West is so preoccupied, like I mentioned, with this kind of stuff.
Like, a war happens.
I don't know if these are real.
They could be fake, but that's the funny part.
Is I live in America and I can't tell fact from fiction anymore.
Like, I don't know.
And sometimes I do.
Like, I play videos.
Someone's like, that was actually a troll.
And I'm like, how would I know?
I've seen someone do that for real yesterday.
unidentified
Like, it's like, how would I know?
savanah hernandez
That was my doctor one time.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
But, like, it gets even funnier because, like, these are real tweets, by the way.
Like, look at this.
Check this out.
Read this one.
This one.
jorge ventura
Read this.
unidentified
Oh, my.
jorge ventura
Can you read this?
elijah schaffer
Read this out loud.
unidentified
This is a disgust much, but Putin very much benefits from white privilege.
jorge ventura
I just can't see a scenario in which a black or brown man running Russia would be allowed to invade Ukraine with no devastating consequences.
See, Prime in 2014, white supremacy will destroy us, Elijah Schaefer.
It's all your fault.
elijah schaffer
Dude, do you think white supremacy is a white nation invading a white nation?
Another white nation.
Dude, there's going to be no black Ukrainian president.
I don't think they understand that on that note, Russia is super down to earth in their immigration policies.
Like, there is a thing before globalism where, like, the United States is a little bit different because obviously, like, we border Mexico.
So, like, there's always been Mexican people living around here.
And we, like, imported black slaves.
So, we have this, like, sort of built in, quote, diversity in the country per se, a little bit.
But it's like Russia, while there's many different nations and people, like, these people are so out of touch that they've, they care about the aesthetic, like the privilege of white people.
jorge ventura
I saw you crazy.
I saw you, Elijah, reply to one tweet, and it was funny.
It was like, um, it was like a tweet, and it was like, only 35% of Ukrainians are vaccinated.
And now they're going to be like, oh, look at this.
unidentified
Look at this.
Oh, look at this.
Whatever screen was.
Oh, there it is.
Let's go.
savanah hernandez
Dude, I commented on this one on my show last night, and I was like, yeah, so everyone's coming into the bomb shelter.
But like, before you come in, like, are you vaccinated?
unidentified
Literally, boosted to our blind viewers.
elijah schaffer
To our blind viewers, read this, Savannah.
This is so insane.
savanah hernandez
A lot of people in Ukraine crowding together inside, but only 35% of Ukrainians have been vaccinated.
Less than 2% have been boosted.
jorge ventura
White supremacy.
savanah hernandez
It's like, look, I know bombs are falling, but like, also, can we see your vax card before you come in?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I can't handle it.
I can't handle it.
It's so ridiculous.
But at the same time, don't forget to follow Savannah at Rapid Fire Podcasts.
jorge ventura
White liberals like this, bro.
unidentified
Well, I don't, I don't know, but like maybe black women too, a little bit.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I swear, what is really interesting, though, in the midst of all of this is like, I just want to give, I'm going to want to give a huge, uh, a huge shout out specifically to our greatest fighters in the West, right?
We have we have an elite form of fighters that have taken the stance, risked their lives.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Um, and who are those people in the West?
Go ahead and go to my screen.
It's our graphic designers.
Yeah, they've literally put a lot on the line to show how they stand with Ukraine.
The United Kingdom put a yellow and blue square up because they stand with Ukraine.
And they went a step further and lit up a building.
savanah hernandez
Putin is shaking.
jorge ventura
Yeah, Putin is shaking in his boots right now.
He's like, whoa.
Oh, no.
elijah schaffer
It's embarrassing.
It's embarrassing because it's like, look, dude, I don't think we should have intervened.
Like, this is the total psyop.
And you know this.
It's like the reason why we're not intervening is because we are in the wrong.
We know what we were doing.
And we know from 2004 on how we've completely upended Ukraine, completely destroyed the country from within, caused a long-lasting civil war, which is still going on that nobody knows about.
That we're pretending like Putin is this bad guy who just invaded.
The reason why we're standing with Ukraine, but not with our troops on the ground, is because literally we tried to launch an offensive against Russian-backed provinces.
And it's so insane as we look at all of this that like if we invade, we are sort of fighting against the sovereignty of the border of Russia.
And it literally could cause an all-out war.
And I see all these right-wing people like, if Russia attacks anymore, then we will raise their cities.
I don't think that's how nuclear wars work, buddy.
I don't think that's how it works.
jorge ventura
And the U.S. government just uses Ukraine to flush out money.
Obviously, we saw that with Joe Biden, his son, and Burisma.
So, you know, we have just used Ukraine for all of our corruption.
Like a little bit of what you alluded to earlier too, Elijah, was you know, we literally backed coupes in Ukraine to overthrow their democratic elected leaders to install a U.S.-backed leader.
So yeah, for some reason, the media just doesn't ever seem wanting to mention that.
They want to just kind of keep paying the United States as we're the great guys, we're the heroes of the world when we're the biggest imperialists.
All we do is intervene and overthrow countries and ruin their economies.
savanah hernandez
And Jorge, can I pop into this really quickly here too?
Because I really want to focus in on how much the word nationalist has been demonized here in America.
And why do you think that is?
Because Putin is a nationalist because he cares about his nation.
He cares about his country.
So here in the West, we've demonized that language so much.
We've demonized people caring about their own countries and borders.
That's a big thing, right?
So of course, it's going to be so easy for our media to manipulate Putin and make him seem like this really bad guy.
elijah schaffer
Well, yeah.
And I think it's hard for people to understand.
Like, I'm not anti-American, but I am the anti-American regime, right?
And I'm genuinely, our government is so corrupt.
Like, I love our country and what it theoretically stands for.
But as we're going to point out, like, we are so broken and so full of ourselves, you cannot trust the media.
Here's an example.
If you go to my screen, like Steve Brandt, which is the MSNBC's like senior analyst, right?
This is supposed to be an expert.
He's like, what does Putin want with Chernobyl when he invades?
And Malcolm Nance comes under it, like, it powers central North Ukraine.
Like, you don't even know why they want the city.
You're like, what could what could Russia be wanting?
It's like, dude, this is your job is to know for one of the major outlets of the United States or media to inform the public and you don't have that answer.
You are either functionally retarded or intentionally ignorant or trying to lie to people.
And that's what I think he's trying to lie.
Like, there's no reason why he would invade.
It's like, there is a reason.
And dude, and I'm telling you this, the only person getting close to kind of representing this accurately in the mainstream media has been Tucker Carlson.
jorge ventura
Right.
elijah schaffer
Other than that, it's so crazy how even the Biden administration, that's why the Biden's like, they might invade.
They might invade.
Yeah, because they know that they're trying to launch this counter, this offensive.
So they know what they're doing.
So they're like, we know that Putin probably won't stand for what we're doing and he's probably going to counter us.
So we're going to then, if we end up failing and we botch another CIA-led like coup and return, we're going to blame it on Russia saying they were just aggressive and wanted land when that's not even the case.
And it's like, it's so retarded because it's the same thing with China.
It's like, we are weak in the imperialistic era.
We have receded ourselves.
We were imperialists.
Then we're interventionists.
We created 20 years of fake wars that we didn't win.
Biden pulled out of Afghanistan.
He failed miserably.
It was totally botched.
We haven't won a war in a very long time.
And our enemies, and that's why I'm not like pro-Putin, because I know they are our enemy, are like, dude, the United States hasn't, they're not going to do anything anymore.
Look, they have a bumbling fool.
And then also with the Ukraine thing, it's like, dude, look at what they try to do in Ukraine.
Biden and Biden, remember he's like, when he got elected, he was like, Putin doesn't want me as the president because I stand heel to heel with him and he's not going to want me.
It's like, literally, it's weird that the Russian-backed president, Trump, that they in, you know, that they hacked that election, the only election that could get hacked 2016, because 2020 couldn't get hacked.
But they hacked, they didn't invade during the pro-Russia president, but the anti-Russia strongman, they chose to invade.
It almost seems like perhaps not what it appears.
jorge ventura
I don't know about you guys.
I just don't trust almost anything that comes from U.S. military intelligence.
Anytime they say, oh, we received this report because of this, I never believe it.
They lied about, obviously, Iraq and kind of created these 20 years of war.
They even lied about Syria.
I know, you know, Assad is not a good guy, but they, you know, the U.S. military lied to the American people saying that Assad was chemically bombing his own people when actual reports show that there was no chemicals used at all.
And we just kind of make up these lies for intervention.
So right now, it's like, we don't even know who, like, who to believe at this point.
But right now, you can't trust, obviously, the media because media, whether it's left or right on this issue, are all pro-war, pro-intervention.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I know.
But so some people might be wondering, well, like, I just don't, I don't understand what the hell is happening.
Like, maybe you're hearing some of this for the first time.
Maybe you've heard all of this and you want more information.
And so we did this crazy thing.
I told you guys slightly offensive.
We're not just going to laugh at people and just make jokes anymore.
We're going to start actually speaking to experts because there's no reason why Rogan should have the monopoly on that, but there's no reason why we should copy him and do the same thing.
We should do our own thing and start bringing in these experts for shorter interviews so that you guys can then take these shorter interviews.
I don't watch two, three hour like conversations, but I want to give you 15 to 20 minute conversations with these experts that you can tell people to go to that mark, watch this and get updated.
And we found somebody who is in the middle, Dr. Samuel Elliot.
And we're going to talk about that.
But obviously, before we jump into that, a lot of you know, not only do you need your medical pack, but you also need a gun.
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That's what you're doing.
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I'd like to welcome to the show Dr. Samuelli.
And I'll go ahead and bring him on screen.
Dr. Samuelli, a senior research fellow at the Global Policy Institute and the author of Bombs for Peace: NATO's Humanitarian War on Yugoslavia.
Welcome to Slightly Offensive.
unidentified
Thank you for inviting me.
elijah schaffer
Okay, so Doctor, obviously, I do not hold a PhD.
I do not have the knowledge you have, and most of the people watching this are probably as confused as I am on what's happening in the world due to the bias of the media, both Russian state media.
And while our media in the United States is not supposed to be state-controlled, it appears to be that way in many cases, both on Fox News and on CNN.
The bias is just absolutely ridiculous.
So, first of all, could you kind of explain to us what is actually happening right now in the conflict with Russia and Ukraine?
unidentified
Well, you have to go back to December when Vladimir Putin presented two documents, two draft treaties, one for NATO, one for the United States, that would serve as a framework for a new security architecture in Europe.
And the key ingredient in both of these documents was an end to NATO expansion, an end to the deployment of weapons that could reach Russian soil in the lands that were once part of the Warsaw Pact and indeed were part of the USSR, which that includes the Baltic states.
During the sort of the various negotiations that have taken place since December, it became clear to the Russians that neither the United States nor NATO was taking seriously Russia's security concerns because NATO has expanded massively since the end of the Cold War, so much so that every single country that was a member of the Warsaw Pact is now a member of NATO.
And indeed, the Baltic Republics, which are actually part of the USSR, are also members of NATO.
So because they didn't take this seriously, and Putin had said that this is a red line for Russia, Putin felt that he had to act and show that he was serious and that he couldn't go on living with NATO, really just a few miles from St. Petersburg, which used to be the northern capital of Russia.
So I think it's a demonstration that he is very serious about the security concerns of Russia.
But there's the other aspect of it, which is that there has been an ongoing civil war in Ukraine ever since the illegal coup that took place in February 2014 under the sponsorship of the United States, particularly Victoria Newland.
We have the telephone conversations in which she was plotting with the US ambassador in Kiev, plotting to overthrow the legally elected president of Ukraine, Viktor Yandukovich.
So, following that coup, the Russian-speaking provinces of Ukraine broke away because they just refused to accept this new illegal government.
And then the civil war between Kiev and these breakaway provinces has been going on for eight years.
There was a Minsk process that was put in place in 2015 under which, in a step-by-step process, these breakaway provinces, the Donetsk and Luhansk, would be reincorporated within Russia.
And the step-by-step process involved a constitutional amendment whereby these two provinces would get special status.
There would be local elections held within these two provinces, and there would be a universal amnesty passed.
Ukraine hasn't done any of those things.
And it's become increasingly clear that Ukraine had no intention of implementing Minsk.
And more seriously, France and Germany, which along with Russia, are the guarantors of Minsk.
France and Germany had no intention of applying any kind of pressure on Kiev to implement Minsk.
And so what we had was now, particularly last week at the UN Security Council meeting, the ambassador of Ukraine openly saying that Ukraine had no intention of negotiating with the representatives of the Donetsk and Luhansk, because that would somehow legitimize them.
Whereas in that agreement, it's in black and white, it's part of UN Security Council Resolution 2202.
It says that this implementation of Minsk has to be done by negotiation between Kiev and the representatives of the Donetsk and Luhansk.
And Ukraine was openly saying, we're not going to do it.
We're not going to legitimize them.
And France, a permanent member of the UN Security Council, just sat there and said nothing.
It was clear that they had no intention of complying with it.
And I think Russia was really getting fed up with this.
And I think there was also a legitimate fear on the part of Russia that given the big force buildup from Kiev, that they were going to try and mount some kind of a military offensive to bring these breakaway provinces to heel and try to do this by force.
So I think it was a kind of an anticipation of something like that.
That's what's really happening.
And unfortunately, the US media covered none of this.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, you're absolutely correct.
I mean, some of this stuff I'm hearing for the first time from you.
And so my question is: if the point was to recognize the independence of the eastern provinces that were Russian-speaking, why is Putin then pushing forward as we're seeing right now with the bombardment of Kiev?
unidentified
Well, I think that it was clear that Kiev wasn't going to accept the independence of these breakaway provinces and would continue to wage a war against them.
So I think it's part of a kind of a move to anticipate any kind of military activity against these republics.
I mean, the republics made an immediate appeal.
As soon as he recognized them, they made an immediate appeal saying, hey, we are in danger.
We are threatened by Kiev.
Please come and help us.
And I think this is clearly, Russia signed a security agreement with them and so went ahead and helped them.
But I think there's a deeper sense that, and Putin has said this over and over again in the past few weeks, that Russia isn't going to live with a kind of a hostile state on its border.
And what's happening is that Ukraine is increasingly kind of a de facto member of NATO, very hostile to Russia.
Really, it's kind of driven by a desire to go to war with Russia and being sponsored by NATO.
NATO just keeps pouring more and more weaponry and military advisors into Ukraine.
So I think there's another aspect of that.
I think Russia wants to bring to an end the influence of the so-called Galicians, the Banderistas, the people in the west of Ukraine who really do harbor great animus towards Russia.
And he wants to minimize the influence of those people.
So when he said in his speech, we are seeking the denazification of Ukraine, I think he wants to minimize the influence of those people.
He basically wants to bring Ukraine back into the Russian world, the Russian civilization.
I think Russia regards as a Russian civilization, and it comprises Russia, Ukraine, and Belarus, because he sees them as essentially Russian people.
But unfortunately, what has happened in Ukraine, particularly since the Orange Revolution of 2004, was that these Banderistas, these people in the West, the Galitzians, which used to be part of Poland before they were incorporated within the Soviet Union by Stalin, these people are driving Ukraine to a kind of hostility toward Russia.
And I think Russia just felt we can't go on like this because within a generation or two, Ukraine will just be lost to Russian civilization.
Putin is someone who is very conscious of history, very conscious of Russian civilization, just felt that Russia could not allow that to happen.
elijah schaffer
So then if you say with Belarus, Ukraine and Russia, obviously there's a lot of talks, including like on Twitter, what you see trending World War III.
We hear this every year at some point, World War III.
Do you think that Putin does have any intention of invading or bombarding any other countries that are along the border or pushing further into Western Europe at all that could spark a greater global conflict?
Is that a reality?
unidentified
No, it's not a reality.
However, as I mentioned earlier, in those documents that he presented in December, one of the things he insisted on was that in Eastern Europe, we go to a status quo ante to 1997.
In other words, not that all these former Warsaw Pact countries that are members of NATO have to leave NATO.
He's not insisting on that.
But the NATO infrastructure that has been built up there, he doesn't want.
Now, is he going to destroy, try to destroy that NATO infrastructure?
I don't know.
But I think if the response of the NATO powers is to start pouring in more and more heavy weaponry into, for instance, the Baltic states, Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia, that might gall the Russians.
Now, I don't think the Russians will invade, but I think they might just simply say, we're going to take out these military air bases, airfields, radar stations that you've built up in the past few years, because they are a direct threat to our security.
I mean, Estonia is just a few miles from St. Petersburg.
So that, I think, is a real danger, because I think that's the way NATO is responding now is to beef up The easternmost parts of NATO, Russia feels that as a threat.
So if that happens, I think Russia will take that out.
I don't think they're going to kill anybody.
I think what will happen is, you know, they'll give maybe an hour or two's notice, say, everybody leave, an attack is coming.
And then they'll just hit some airfields or air bases and say, that's it.
We're not going to live with it on our borders.
Not too different, incidentally, with JFK's decision about missiles in Cuba.
Just basically, we're not going to have this 90 miles off our coast.
It doesn't matter whether Cuba is a sovereign nation or not.
We're just not going to have it 90 miles from our coast.
elijah schaffer
And do you think, obviously, recently with the crackdown from protesters in Canada, from Justin Trudeau, we see in the United States as well, we've seen a lot of authoritarian style lockdowns similar to Beijing.
And with the U.S.'s imperialistic recent history, right, with the invasion, we have Libya, we have Iraq, Afghanistan.
Those are the ones that were televised nationally.
I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of other things that have not been so well known or covered by our media.
Do you think that the U.S. has any authority to be lecturing Russia?
And on that note, do you think that Russia knows that the U.S. is hypocritical and that they don't really have an ability to counter what they're doing?
Since in many ways, we not only mirror the exact problems that we condemn in Russia, but on top of that, we also act in the same way globally.
I mean, is Russia aware of that?
Do they see our weakness in that regard?
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, they're very much aware of that.
It's a point that both Putin and Lavrov make over and over again.
And the truth is, of course, that the reason why the U.S. and NATO have been able to do what they do, I mean, how was the U.S. able to pull off an invasion of Iraq in 2003 without authorization from the UN Security Council?
How was it able to bomb Yugoslavia, a European country, in 1999, again, without authorization from the UN Security Council?
Well, they did it because they could.
They're so strong that nobody could mess with them.
And so, you know, Biden and Blinken and NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg and Boris Johnson can pontificate about our values and we care about democracy.
You know, we believe in the rules-based order.
The truth is, they don't believe in any of that.
What they do believe in is their power to do whatever they want whenever they feel like it.
What has now happened, and I think it's come as a big shock to the U.S. and the Western powers, is that Russia has re-emerged on the world stage as a rival great power.
And now Russia is saying, yeah, we can do what we want because we are very strong.
And then if you mess with us here in our own backyard, you know, you're going to get into a lot of trouble.
So it's essentially Russia is just deploying the same arguments that the U.S. and NATO has done.
But, you know, fortunately, Russia isn't sanctimonious.
They don't talk about democracy and values and we have some kind of a unique responsibility for a rules-based order and whatnot.
They don't lecture the rest of the world.
So I think what's happened is the U.S. is getting a taste of its own medicine.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, and you may not be an expert on this, so I'm going to just pick your brain for a second.
Obviously, with the talks about Russia being emboldened, we obviously have just on the same theater, a little bit to the southeast, China, who has emerged as an extremely competitive foe to the United States, specifically in the South China Sea.
And so do you think this has either A, emboldened China to see that they can take Taiwan?
And then B, do you think that this is a real possibility within the next few months or years that China will follow through on their threat to take Taiwan simply because the United States has shown itself that not that we're on the decline, but that we understand the formidability of these countries and that in the end with Ukraine, we won't intervene because we realize the consequences.
unidentified
I think the answer is yes to both of your points.
I think it's very, very significant that Russia and China are now inseparable.
You know, just before the start of the Winter Olympics, Putin was in Beijing and he and Xi Jinping signed a very big document specifying really just how much Russia and China are in complete agreement on every major problem in the world.
And there it was within that document, the issue of that Taiwan is a part of China and there can be no ands, ifs, and buts about it.
Now, you know, on this issue of, you know, Ukraine, China has pretty much supported Russia.
I mean, it pretty much has refused all of the entreaties of the Biden administration.
Oh, please, please, please condemn Russia.
China has refused to do so.
So essentially, it's saying we've got your back to Russia.
Now, China will probably want that favor returned.
And the Chinese may well think this is as good a time as any to resolve this problem of Taiwan once and for all.
I mean, it's been going since 1949.
It's about time to resolve this problem once and for all.
So I think if you're a Taiwanese, you probably have to worry about the immediate future.
It's probably not a bad idea to start thinking about negotiating the terms of reincorporation with China, because I think China may, particularly Xi Jinping, who I think wants to be a kind of a historic leader of China along the lines of Mao and Deng Xiaoping, he may well think that this will be his legacy, bringing Taiwan back into the fold.
elijah schaffer
Well, you know what?
Thank you so much, Doctor, for sharing with us your vast knowledge and understanding.
We really appreciate that.
And obviously, whenever we have somebody else on to share, is there anywhere particular on social media that people can follow you and continue to keep up with your thoughts, ideas, and, of course, any future work that you might produce?
unidentified
Right.
I'm on Substack, so people can follow me on Substack.
I'm also on Twitter.
And I also do a daily podcast with my colleague, Peter Lavelle.
It's called thegaggle.locals.com.
So please go there and perhaps even subscribe, which would be very, very nice.
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And of course, you can find the links.
If you're listening to this, you're a blind viewer and you're on podcasts.
You can find the links to all of the places you can follow the doctor in the description below.
Thank you so much for coming on.
We really appreciate it.
Have a great rest of the day.
unidentified
Thank you.
Bye-bye.
elijah schaffer
There are very few times when I'm reminded of just how stupid and uninformed I am when you talk to someone that smart.
Dr. Samuel, I mean, you were listening in on that.
I mean, obviously a reporter and stuff, but like, thank God for people like that who are just intelligent and can update us and give us the information that we need.
jorge ventura
Yeah, we just need the full scope of the story.
Things are not so black and white, especially when it comes to foreign policy and all the lies that both the left and the right-wing mainstream media is giving us when it comes to this issue.
But it was a great breakdown.
And I might need to listen to that again, man.
Yeah, I know.
elijah schaffer
I know.
And please, please send that to your friends and your family and have them get updated so that they don't believe the lies in the media.
And we're trying to bring that unbiased to you, just what's going on and making sense of it.
Because, like, obviously, most of us are more familiar with domestic policy.
And I'm not going to lie and pretend like I know everything about everything.
And I'm just so excited that people are willing to share with us, especially because most of the time we just have like, you know, black disabled Barbies on the desk and whatnot.
But I was like, where's it?
I come in and I'm like, Dr. Samuel Ellie's there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, you got to.
elijah schaffer
I got to take these off the desk and like, and like pretend to be a serious person for five minutes.
jorge ventura
No more clown pills.
elijah schaffer
No more clown pills in the moment.
And we're going to talk about this.
So, because there's a lot of talk about our morals and our values and why, why Putin's bad because we're good people.
He's bad.
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Okay, so let's talk about this.
Like, do we have the, do we have the footage, Savannah, of the protesters getting arrested like in Moscow?
So you know this when we're when we're kids and we're raised on this or even just like a few years ago, we think, oh, Russia, bad.
Like, oh, Russia's authoritarian.
Like they arrest protesters that are protesting war.
That's that is, we're the West.
We don't do that.
We're not evil and bad.
We're freedom countries.
You know, our vice president was in a, was in a stroller at a Martin Luther King Jr. and said, freedom.
Like, we're the free country.
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Okay, so, right, you see all the anti-war protesters getting arrested.
And like, I mean, just you, just three years ago, two years ago, before the pandemic, I would have sell this and like, damn, I'm so glad I live in the West.
Like, people are getting arrested for this.
But in 2022, I couldn't tell you if that's Moscow or Ottawa.
jorge ventura
Oh, I know.
And not only that, not only also arresting protesters in Ottawa, but beating them.
I mean, batons, cracking windows into trucks and cars, the freezing of bank accounts is the most alarming part of all of it.
But beating up journalists too.
A major shout out to the guys at Rebel News.
They've been working hard on getting those vetos on the ground, but they've been beating it up.
I saw one of their journalists been arrested.
And this is happening in the West.
And guess what?
No Western leaders even speak out on it.
elijah schaffer
No, they don't care because it's so interesting that as we condemn and take this moral superiority, we're absolutely have no standing.
It's embarrassing.
That's embarrassing.
Trudeau literally said we stand against authoritarianism and we stand for freedom and for democracy while he's literally putting people in prison for 10 years and killing their pets, selling their cars and taking away their money because they wanted freedom.
We have no position to be condemning Putin.
It's not that Putin is good.
It's just that we're not in a position to condemn him.
And so they want you to say, well, if you don't condemn Putin, then you're pro-Putin.
jorge ventura
And it's like, who are we, though?
Yeah, let's look in the mirror.
But no, what happened in Canada?
The funny thing, too, Elijah, was the president of El Saudi, Naibu Kelly, was the only president of my knowledge to call out Canada.
And one point that he made, which I think he was right on the money, is if those type of behaviors were happening in the Middle East or Russia, then the U.S. government would be up in arms saying how much we need to intervene.
It's a human rights violation.
But when it's our neighbor, and let's not forget, these protests that were getting squashed by these security forces, it's a literally worker uprising.
We're talking about truckers.
You're talking about a true working class movement.
And so if they're willing to do this, then everyone in the West stays silent.
But if this was in the Middle East, if this was in Syria, oh man, we would already have American troops over there.
Spreading a little democracy, of course.
elijah schaffer
I think we have this as well.
Yeah, we have this video of kind of of Trudeau where you realize that this really is a position where the West doesn't really exist anymore.
And the reason why I mean that is because our countries are controlled now by the World Economic Forum by Klaus Schwab.
And they are in this movement where you go, why are we operating in a way that reminds us of our enemies?
It's because our enemies have taken control of our countries.
And we no longer stand for democracy.
We no longer stand for freedom.
And it makes me genuinely fear for our future because our enemies will be emboldened against us.
And they do want to see us destroyed.
But we're not, because we have no moral high ground, our governments will have a very difficult time getting the people to support a war for moral reasons because our governments express no morality at home.
It's like, well, you express no morality here.
Why would I care about what's happening in Ukraine or Russia when we do the same crap right now?
Like, that's where I'm at.
I'm like, you can't convince me to go to war in Ukraine when you didn't speak out against Justin Trudeau.
If people spoke out against Justin Trudeau, condemned it, we intervened, he got arrested or he had to resign because of global pressure, then I'd be like, okay, maybe we do have a moral responsibility in other countries to help.
But it's like, if our neighbor up north, we don't care.
If our border down south, we don't care about protecting it.
Why am I supposed to believe Kamala Harris when she says we have the duty to protect Russia's borders and Russia has the duty to protect their own when we don't even protect our own borders?
Like it's so dumb.
And they think we're dumb, but we're not.
And we see right through it.
So I don't even support our own government.
I don't support my own country right now.
jorge ventura
No, same here.
Look, the U.S. government, all they've done is lie these past 20, 30 years, getting us into war.
So of course we cannot trust them.
And then, you know, we want to act like we are the world police.
We're on this moral high ground because the United States always does the right thing.
I mean, there's lots of books out there.
I highly encourage the viewers, go check out books and check out the, you know, there's great books out there where they interview a bunch of people in the Middle East, and then you get to get exposed to all the war crimes that the United States has committed with their imperialism motives.
And I mean, like I said, I can't trust them.
Maybe you guys can't, but anything from the U.S. military intelligence, I really don't trust.
We are no moral high ground with all the war crimes that the United States has committed.
And when Russia is fighting the Great Revolutionary, and we just actually committed a war crime just recent where we actually bombed a family in Syria after the Biden administration, the Biden administration told us that no one was killed.
We find out that at least like eight kids were killed in that.
So what about that?
That never makes it into the mainstream.
elijah schaffer
I know they're like, he blew himself up.
jorge ventura
I was like, oh, yeah, That was a lie.
They blew himself up.
elijah schaffer
He blew himself up and took out an entire building.
That sounds like a drone strike.
It was like, literally, it's like there's like a U.S. military bomb scrap and they're like hiding it.
It's like, oops, that's he used one of our bombs to blow himself up.
You're like, bro, you were just killing children.
They love, there's nothing more the U.S. government loves other than homosexuality is killing brown children.
Like, that's just like, it's like a pastime.
jorge ventura
And don't forget, under the Obama administration, we bombed the Middle East every single day under that administration.
And not a lot of black and brown kids there were.
elijah schaffer
Trump was strong.
Trump, I believe under the Trump administration, we killed some Russians as well in Syria, which is pretty, pretty insane.
But I do want to remind you this, like, this is what we're fighting.
This is why we have no moral high ground.
Let's play video 11.
klaus schwab
Young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau, half of this cabinet, are actually young nobilians of Sudan.
We penetrate the cabinets.
The change is not just happening.
unidentified
The change can be shaped by us.
klaus schwab
We have to prepare for a more angry world.
How to prepare?
Take the necessary action to create the fairer world.
I see the need for a great reset.
The people assume we are just going back to the good old world, which we had, and everything will be normal again.
This is, let's say, fiction.
It will not happen.
unidentified
There is only one way this pandemic is going to go.
It's going to get worse and worse and worse.
klaus schwab
The next crisis is already waiting for us around the corner.
And it is the climate crisis.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, so Russia and China are just like, they don't care about this.
The West has completely fallen to this, you know, crisis after crisis to take away our rights and create a police state.
And so it's like, as we are literally succumbing to this, as we're fighting in America, I'm fighting it.
That's why I don't hate America.
I don't hate the people.
I just know that the current government is in line with this.
And so it's like, I don't blame Russia for hating us.
I don't blame China for hating us.
And I don't blame them for being on the offensive.
And that's okay.
Like as an American, you're not anti-American by understanding that our enemies hate us for a reason.
And it's not anti-American to push that.
You don't have to be a leftist and be like, America sucks.
It's like, no, America doesn't suck.
But until we can take back our government from the central banks and these systems and from the powerful elites that control them, like Klaus Schwab and his goons, we are going to keep losing.
We're going to keep being distracted.
And they're going to get their way.
And I'm sorry about to say this, but it's like there is no West.
There is no free West.
We don't have the days of the Cuban Missile Crisis and wanting to protect our sovereignty and our understanding.
We can't, we don't have, this isn't 2001 that, you know, we need to invade Afghanistan because we need to stand for our people and get revenge for the great nation and bond together.
Like, we're really in a hole here.
I'm not trying to be a doomer.
It's just, it's very serious where we're at.
And until, you know, someone like Trudeau, you know, even if he's assassinated, imagine this.
He gets killed.
They have an entire list of young global leaders.
jorge ventura
No, just install.
elijah schaffer
Just install the new one.
It doesn't matter.
jorge ventura
Yeah, we're in this illusion that the U.S. government always has our best interests.
Let's not forget after 9-11, the Patriot came.
After the financial crash in 2008, the banks got richer.
And after the COVID-19 pandemic, well, it was the greatest transfer of wealth in history in 2020.
Billionaires were 54 of, I believe, up to 55% richer after the pandemic.
So the working class, middle class, and the average American keeps losing.
So yeah, I hope, I mean, hopefully those folks start to wake up that we're in this illusion that the U.S. government has our best interests.
It's just a lot.
unidentified
Right.
elijah schaffer
But, and you know this because we saw this with the pandemic.
Like, like, oh yeah, you want us to fight morality.
People are like being, they're losing their livelihoods, their jobs.
They're being barred human rights in our own country for not getting jabbed with something that we've never been told what the long-term side effects are, the studies or anything.
And I mean, and you, you, people do still care in America about what doing right, even if our government's doing wrong.
And you're one of those people.
I know you, you worked on a documentary too about this.
I mean, can you tell, like, what was the point behind that?
What was the documentary?
jorge ventura
Yeah, we just released our new documentary.
It's called Hero 20.
And we wanted to tell all the stories of, you know, first responders like cops, the nurses, teachers who have been fired for not taking the vaccine due to a mandate for not complying.
And these are folks who had made a personal decision.
And let's, you know, they were on the front lines of the height of the pandemic.
So while everyone else was quarantined, they were still out there.
And most of them have already contracted COVID and now have been fired.
Not only that, but been demonized by the media.
I mean, you turn on mainstream media, they have demonized these people as QAnoners and anti-vaxxers.
I mean, they're just literally regular Americans, you know, that have families just like us who want to support.
It's just that they made their own personal decision.
They don't want to be forced by the government.
And look how these states also just dingo that paycheck over these people.
So we wanted to do something for them to tell their story just because the corporate media has been attacking them so hard and have demonized them.
We wanted to give them a voice.
So we finally put that out, representing something for the workers.
So that the documentary is called Hero to Zero.
And then everyone could find it.
We made our own website for it.
So it's hero20.com.
We also have a trailer there so you can share with a family friend, but please help us get these stories out.
One of the firefighters featured in that documentary, his name is Josh Satley from Beverly Hills.
He's been placed on unpaid leave since October.
So till today, Elijah, he hasn't got paid.
He doesn't know if he's going to get fired or not because the county just has him in limbo.
He has a family of four, a wife.
So these are true American stories.
This is happening in the United States.
This is happening in the West.
This should be crimes against humanity, what we're doing to our workers.
elijah schaffer
No, I know.
And I think, you know, huge shout out to Eastern Freedom.
He's really cool, super basic.
jorge ventura
Yeah, those videos are basic.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, he's really cool.
And I really have appreciated his edits over the last couple years, actually.
He's been making amazing things.
He made this other video that I want to share with you guys.
We love to amplify.
He's a small creator, but this show is very big on amplifying emerging voices and people who are out there.
jorge ventura
Especially minority voices, Elijah.
You do the best at that.
elijah schaffer
There's nobody in the world who's less racist and more pro-minority than me.
There literally is not one.
There's not one.
It is true.
I'm the only white person in the room right now.
Like literally, that's true.
That's because I want to be the minority.
So I put myself in your shoes so I know what it feels like.
You know what I mean?
I'm really, really open to it.
jorge ventura
Thank you for your sacrifice, Elijah.
elijah schaffer
You're welcome.
I know.
I know.
Literally, who cares about Ukraine?
Talk about my sacrifices.
You know what I mean?
Like, oh, you died fighting a country invading you.
Well, how about putting minorities on a podcast?
You know, thank you.
You're welcome.
This is true.
This is true of peak masculinity.
He did make one recently, kind of just explaining the famous quote about hard times with Jordan Peterson.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Of just like, we're entering, we're going to enter a season.
It's going to, I keep telling people, I'm not doomer-pilled, but just it's going to get very bad and things are going to progressively get worse over the next three years.
We might be able to turn it around after 2024.
I'm not sure.
We have a pretty good timeline because the Democrats are very unpopular in the United States and the support for wars and these things are very low in our countries.
And we've really lost a lot of our core structures, strength, and institutions.
But I just want to remind you of this video number six of Jordan Peterson sort of reiterating the truth that we've have weak people in our nation.
You know, we have a man named Robinette, you know, running the country.
They create hard times and they're getting weaker and weaker.
As we're seeing Pete Buttigieg and you know that that homosexual drag queen guy in charge of like energy.
I mean, it's really crazy.
They're weak.
Let's go ahead and let's watch video number six.
unidentified
Things get to terrible places one tiny step at a time.
And before you know it, you're going to be back three miles from where you started and you'll have done it one step at a time.
elijah schaffer
And then you'll go, oh, how'd I get here?
unidentified
Well, I pushed you a little farther than you should have gone, and you agreed.
This time of time was a dangerous training.
We could find global plans.
And the vote will stop if the mass surveillance and total control can work.
jorge ventura
That video has me hype, bro.
unidentified
I'm like ready for watching that.
jorge ventura
Yeah, brother, let's take it back.
elijah schaffer
I'm almost like, I'm actually, that's why I told Sav.
I'm considering coming out of retirement and reporting and getting more serious.
And like, there's a lot of people who are going to be out there, dude.
I think it's, I think the time is coming when there's going to be a need to, and it's very, very, very soon to start getting out there because what it is, is like this footage, we did like what we're seeing here and the way that these police, this is around the world.
This is the West.
Like, that's, that's my whole point in all of this.
Is like, if in the West you still think that there's some holy alliance and we have some moral, you know, fortitude, I mean, like, literally, we have child drag queens being promoted as normal.
No wonder why people that are Christian nations hate us.
I mean, look at that.
Look at, look at these.
These are just ordinary people asking for the freedom to get on a plane.
I mean, I'm still shocked.
We're in this years into this.
I never would have predicted this.
Like, this is crazy.
I didn't know you would become illegal for me to travel.
Like, I didn't ever knew one day I couldn't go to Canada.
I mean, because I didn't, you know what I'm saying?
Like, why I couldn't go to Canada because of medical, like, I didn't get an experimental jab or whatever.
jorge ventura
With Australia, I know, um, I know, um, Elijah, your wife's from there.
I mean, the fact that you guys can't even go, you know, to visit their family.
I know Sydney put out a tweet earlier this month saying that her brother got married in Australia and she couldn't be there.
And I mean, who would have thought that this would be happening?
And for me, the biggest takeaways too is why are the Americans taking so long to wake up and protest and actually do something about it?
I was just at the anti-vaccine mandate protest in DC where 30,000 people came out, which was great, but it's like, why did America take so long?
And that same day in Belgium and Brussels, they were able to pull 100,000 people out.
So something about here in America where this illusion that it can never happen here, it's been happening.
And it happens with censorship.
Right now, as you, you know, you and me can't even say certain words because we know this video will be taken out by YouTube and all that.
So it's the censorship is here.
You've already lost freedom of speech.
They're working on 2A.
And it seems like the American people are just too consumed by McDonald's to care.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I mean, that just shows you it's been decades in the making.
Like, it's the lulling to sleep of the masses.
Bro, there's a reason why they want us so divided.
I mean, it's absolutely insane.
Like, and the lefty media is like, oh, you know, Ron DeSantis is speaking at CPAC and he's only talking about our country and not Ukraine.
It's become, they've made it seem like it's a bad thing to even care about the issues back home.
Like, we just need to think about other countries.
Dude, no, you know what I care about?
Seeing Justin Trudeau arrested.
And I've told people, like, I so badly want to play Call of Duty with him and go on a kill streak.
Like, I just, that's what I want.
I want nothing more than these people to see to see justice.
And I know what that justice is.
And you know what that justice is.
But it's also like, I don't, there's going to be no escape, but now we just manage through this and we make sense of it.
And we, we continue to, to, to get together and to focus on what we can control.
And Savannah, you brought this up.
Like, they want us distracted.
And the reason why I don't care is because not just with Canada and our neighbors, but what's happening here at home.
You found this video, right?
Video number 12.
savanah hernandez
Oh, yeah.
I did find this video here.
And we'll play some of it here, but it's basically like black looter.
Robbing an Asian store.
unidentified
Don't do that to her.
Give her her stuff.
Y'all, don't do that to her.
That ain't right.
She paid for that.
I got you on camera, though.
That's up.
Why y'all doing her like that?
Uh-uh, let her out.
Come out, bitch.
savanah hernandez
Come on, you can make it.
unidentified
Oh, now she's stuck.
elijah schaffer
Stop Asian hate.
unidentified
Damn.
elijah schaffer
They got you, bitch.
So I know these are your parents here, Savannah.
That's our store.
So I know this is personal, but no, but I mean, like, Savannah, just tell people, because people are watching, are listening to this, what is happening here?
Like, this is, this is, this is the current state of our country.
savanah hernandez
So basically, a black looter robs an Asian-owned store, and then this guy is recording what's going on.
And he's like saying, he says Black Lives Matter at the end of this video.
And he's encouraging this woman to run away and to commit this crime against this local business.
So this is what's going on here at home.
And I mean, that's what I was talking to you too about.
It's like the media and our politicians, of course, want us distracted by Russia, Ukraine, because they don't want us to focus in on the complete degradation of our own country from within.
We are being destroyed.
And the biggest threat to America is the person sitting in the White House right now.
Not what's not Putin.
Not Putin and not China.
The biggest threat to our country is the Biden regime, truly.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
And I was going to say, and like, that's what's funny because we have three different ethnicities on the screen.
And I think one thing all of us can agree on is like, black people ruined our cities just straight up.
Like they're, oh, Democrat policies.
That's a super cop out.
It's kind of weird that there's a common denominator between every area and every city.
And Democrats might have created policies that allowed that.
But also their policies ruined the black communities genuinely.
And then we see where our cities, our great cities are unsafe.
They're like, I was watching TikTok.
Dude, this is crazy.
You're still in LA kind of.
But I was watching TikTok and this girl was like, the security measures I take when I go outside living in a dangerous city.
And I thought it was going to be Kabul, but it turned out in the end to be LA and she wears like a bulletproof vest underneath her stuff and like brings a gun and stuff.
And she's like, well, I'm a CEO.
I have to protect myself.
But I have friends that no longer carry purses in LA.
Like they've stopped carrying designer bags.
That's been a common thing.
There's warnings to not even carry designer bags.
Like our cities are so dangerous and so unsafe, so dirty.
And like, it's crazy.
And in LA, it's like, it's mostly Hispanics, but then there's like black, homeless people everywhere.
Like, do you know what I'm talking about?
In Hollywood and stuff.
And it's like, it's, it's so, it's so past the point of even being able to stand up and say, yeah, Putin's bad.
It's like, dude, we're kind of in many ways worse.
jorge ventura
Very true.
Then the kind of the downfall of cities actually started around 2008, 2009, when the Republicans and Democrats sold out, sold all the great middle-class kind of manufacturing jobs to China in the NAFTA deal.
And that really started up everything, right?
So all these jobs get shipped to overseas in China now in the NAFTA deal.
Then we started to see the opioids get flooded into these same cities.
And that's actually really what's destroyed cities.
But I think the more important thing, Elijah, is it started actually to destroy families.
And once we started to lose the family coach in the United States, we're kind of seeing the downgrade of our society, right?
After that NAFTA deal, we saw divorce rates in the United States go up because everyone's starting to lose, you know, lose their homes and not be able to pay their mortgages.
And then you saw not only families split up, but then you saw the opioid crisis here in America, as in those families started to use those drugs.
So ever since the NAFTA deal, we kind of started to see the downgrade of cities.
And after that, we started to see the voting in of progressive district attorneys.
I'm from California, so the district attorney in my county is George Cascone.
Very soft on crime policy.
I mean, he's probably the most progressive DA out of all the United States.
He actually just made some recent news for there was a man who was supposed to serve 50 years for a murder.
He only served six.
So that's, I mean, I mean, with all these things, I mean, now this is where we're at.
And dude, we have more division than ever.
The greatest income of inequality have we ever seen disparity in the United States.
We're living through that era right now.
And then opioid crisis and federal on top of that.
elijah schaffer
Well, and this is where we're headed as we kind of bring this to a close, as we watch the world unfold.
Like while they're getting emboldened and stronger, the United States is so distracted.
If you go to my screen, Savannah, the Department of Justice is shutting down a China-focused anti-espionage program largely because of perceptions that has unfairly painted Chinese Americans and U.S. residents of Chinese origin as disloyal, meaning we're just shutting down our Chinese spy program because they're not white.
savanah hernandez
They're not going to investigate you.
elijah schaffer
Correct.
We don't want the spies to feel discriminated against.
So it is interesting.
We're going to keep trying to figure this out.
That's why I know Savannah said she's going to start reporting more as well because it's just, it's necessary because every institution has completely collapsed and failed.
And we don't know what the future holds, but we do know who holds the future.
savanah hernandez
All of the B-roll that we just watched in those videos, none of that was mainstream media footage.
That was all independent people that took that footage.
Because like you said, Elijah, the mainstream is going to go stand in front of a burning trash can and be like, fiery, but mostly peaceful.
It seems like everything's going great here, guys.
Don't look at the cops brutalizing these citizens.
Everything's great.
elijah schaffer
It is.
No, it absolutely is true.
And we're going to keep, like I told you, slightly offensive.
You're going to end up getting more of the show.
At the same time, we're changing a lot of things around here in the future.
Please stay tuned, stay up to date.
And we're going to stay honest and real with you guys.
I don't know what's going on in the world.
I'm figuring it along with you as we make it happen and continuing to try to make sense of it all in a typical fashion.
Of course, the Diversity Coalition will be back next week.
I promised you a new member today, but as it turned out, they are currently all busy creating social media posts to show their solidarity.
So they couldn't be around here because they're tweeting in support and making TikToks and stuff.
savanah hernandez
So important.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
No, seriously, they're just doing the Lord's work.
They're really, really standing up.
And I do want to say we actually did get a post from one of our members.
Well, actually, I will say this.
The only member who's not tweeting is currently Fukmi, the victim of Asian hate.
Oh, and because her arm got cut off.
So there's that.
savanah hernandez
We also didn't announce that we are doing like the blue and yellow lights for Ukraine as well here in the slightly offensive studio, as you guys can see behind me with my side.
Yes.
So we are also doing the blue and yellow lights because we stand with Ukraine.
elijah schaffer
We do.
And I also want to remind you this too.
Like, and in the end, like people say, why don't you do more for the country?
Why don't you do more?
Why don't, like, why don't you, you know, do more?
I said, well, I can't because the most has been done.
Check this out.
Just to remind you, I was like, furries, furries stand with Ukraine.
And I was like, can't beat that.
People who dress up in furry suits are standing for Ukraine.
So I was like, literally, there's nothing more we could do.
I can't do anything to help them.
Like, they did it.
savanah hernandez
But could you imagine a furry on the front lines with an AK just charging at you?
elijah schaffer
I could.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if we see them.
jorge ventura
At this point, it's like, nothing surprises me.
unidentified
So, I've been black pilled.
elijah schaffer
Howling in solidarity.
They howl in solidarity.
It's just too much.
jorge ventura
We're black pilled, Elijah.
We're doom-pilled.
elijah schaffer
I'm every pilled.
jorge ventura
We're clown-pilled.
savanah hernandez
We took too many pills and we're just waiting to OD start the rapture.
elijah schaffer
I know.
All this folklore, the ghost of Kiev, these fake stories coming out, just fake, fake stories to make us think that.
savanah hernandez
Start the war propaganda, boys.
elijah schaffer
We're not completely losing and completely screwed in the world.
Anyway, happy Friday from Slightly Offensive.
George, where can people follow you?
Where can they support you?
And also, as a reminder, if they tuned out for a little bit, where can they find that documentary?
jorge ventura
Yeah, so you guys can follow me on Instagram.
It's just Jorge Ventura TV.
Follow me on Twitter, which is my last name, Ventura, with the word report all in one.
Like that, you guys could check out all the breaking news and check out the new documentary, hero2zerodoc.com, hero20.com.
Like I said, telling the stories of the first responders for making a personal choice and have been punished by the state for doing so.
Thank you so much, Elijah, for having me back on.
It's always fun, and I'm always here to help you hit your diversity quarter.
So that's what I'm here for.
elijah schaffer
That documentary was very similar to the quote about Elma Cron, which said, Even if you are a zero, you can still be a hero.
Size doesn't always matter.
It's how you use it, even if it looks like you lose it.
All right.
Make sure you follow Savannah as well.
Rapid Fire podcast.
Show some support, guys.
You really got to support her there, as well as making sure that you support her at Sav says on YouTube.
Get all the craziness and the madness because obviously I could die tomorrow and the show could go away.
And so you got to find a way to follow Sav and keep up with her despite whatever happens on this show.
Don't forget to follow me everywhere on social media.
And remember, this is an audio-only podcast.
I encourage you to download it and also to leave a five-star review wherever you can leave those reviews.
unidentified
They're free.
elijah schaffer
They don't cost you anything.
And being demonetized, it's a huge way that we get advertisers and keep the show going and are going to continue to be able to expand very, very soon.
And you might get them right on the show.
I'm going to read a couple to you as a thank you for leaving the reviews.
unidentified
We have a review from Lixalot.
elijah schaffer
Very weird.
Best show on YouTube.
The episode with LD was wholesome and informative.
Keep up the great work.
I can't wait for you to get back out on college campuses.
True, true, true.
jorge ventura
A lot of people are back on college campuses.
elijah schaffer
Well, dude, I got invited and yapped.
unidentified
Oh, they did?
jorge ventura
You're too bait for YAF?
elijah schaffer
They were like, yeah, they were like, they were totally fine.
And then I was all of a sudden like, they had to cancel the whole event and I'm like got blocked.
And then they just like threw in the email and John Doyle's blocked too.
jorge ventura
Oh, yeah, yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I'm too blocked from speaking at Yaff events forever.
I'm blacklisted.
unidentified
Jeez.
elijah schaffer
Oh, it's so funny.
jorge ventura
You should have been more pro-war, Elijah.
unidentified
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
And then I was like, why was I blocked from speaking at YAF?
And I went to their Twitter.
I'm like, I don't know how I'm not aligned.
And then their most recent post were promoting Mike Pence and Dan Crenshawn.
jorge ventura
I was like, you're like, oh, no, it makes sense.
elijah schaffer
Okay, okay.
I'm not into bombing brown kids.
So it's like, I'm like, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry that I'm not into bombing brown children.
It's like, dude, he's too, he's, you're, you're too controversial.
Maybe if you wanted to drone strike families, we might let you speak out at college.
jorge ventura
That's American, Elijah.
savanah hernandez
You're invested in Raytheon.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
savanah hernandez
You care about the stock market more.
elijah schaffer
Did you say you're anti?
Did you not promote Pfizer and Moderna vaccines?
Get off.
No speaking on our college campuses.
unidentified
Absolutely.
elijah schaffer
So by the way, guys, I am open.
I'm going back.
I'm getting out of retirement from public speaking, and I am going to all promote it starting maybe next week.
I am open to speaking at your schools, your campuses, but if you try to do it through Yaff, apparently I'm blacklisted now.
I can still speak through Turning Point USA, I believe.
jorge ventura
I love that.
I believe it's like a 50-50.
elijah schaffer
I mean, I spoke on their main stage at their conference, but now I got blacks.
jorge ventura
You're at M-Fans too?
elijah schaffer
Yeah, I spoke at American Fast.
I can.
And also, you can raise my, I can speak at College Republicans.
I can speak at YAL, Young American Liberties.
I think.
I think.
We'll just find out.
Hey, invite me and see how many organizations I'm blacklisted from.
That's like, we should make a board and just like put the names down of like people that have made it illegal for me to speak.
Yeah, join the anti-censorship right wing by showing how much gatekeeping is still alive.
It's like so alive.
jorge ventura
All right.
elijah schaffer
How many more Mexicans are going to bring on my show before I can get off?
So that's a quota.
savanah hernandez
Maybe if we had just one more.
unidentified
I don't know.
jorge ventura
I'll find you one.
elijah schaffer
I'm listening on my show.
savanah hernandez
Oh, my goodness.
unidentified
Oh, man.
Elijah's like, Elijah's like trying to get himself canceled.
jorge ventura
And he's just like, I keep getting demonetized.
I don't even know why.
savanah hernandez
I tell everybody.
jorge ventura
I can't speak at YAF.
I don't know why.
savanah hernandez
Yeah, Elijah's whole entire goal for this show is to just get deleted.
unidentified
I know.
elijah schaffer
I don't, I don't.
It's like, yeah, why does Yaff not want me to speak?
Us with a hatchet, like chopping off an Asian's arm and being like, celebrate Black History Month by acknowledging Asian hate.
savanah hernandez
It's a mystery.
elijah schaffer
I don't know.
unidentified
Truly.
elijah schaffer
I liked it.
I thought it was a good bit.
We also have a review from JD Growergain.
Seven.
Hell yeah.
The best worst show.
I'm all about it.
I joined Blaze for Crowder and Elijah has blown me away.
Culture, comedy, politics, and Christianity, fantastic.
As a converted agnostic to Christianity and libertarian towards the right wing instead of libertarianism.
I have nothing but thanks for expanding this view towards myself and others on the fringe, the fringes of alternative thought.
That's pretty good.
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It's so good.
It's so insane.
And we love you guys and have massive support.
Huge shout out to George for coming on the show.
Ventura, make sure you follow him and his new podcast, which is.
jorge ventura
Yeah, the Ventura report was set to almost launch, but check out the documentary, Hero to Zero.
We also got the cartel documentary as well, carteldoc.com.
And the news never stops under this administration.
elijah schaffer
Yep.
And even if the studio ever shuts down, I told you, Rainer Shine, the show will continue, even if the other shows don't.
Have a great rest of the week and may God bless the United States of America.
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