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What Really Happened in Portland | Guest: Andy Ngo | Ep 23

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elijah schaffer
How does it feel to be a lying clown that supports increasing hate in this world?
Do you ever think about your entire life and how your career is a joke?
Like, does it ever get annoying being so frequently wrong and then having to do crazy mental gymnastics so that you can semi-believe this shit?
Like, do you understand what a hilariously dumb and garbage person you are?
Okay, if that doesn't show you how much people loved our coverage of the Portland protests on Saturday, then I don't know what would.
Later in the show, we're also going to read some more fan mails.
We got a lot of it.
But I actually want to touch on a subject here that is very important.
This is our take of what happened in Portland.
We already released two videos, part one and part two, links in the description, or you can find them on our YouTube that showcase our version of what happened.
But what you don't see is what is happening behind the scenes.
And I want to clear the air about three things.
Number one, I want to address this Hammergate scandal.
Yes, there is actually a conspiracy theory that the right wing started the violence on Saturday.
Number two, I want to address this ridiculous notion that there are Nazis in this country.
Is that even a thing?
It's not a thing.
Okay, I can't even get to that yet.
This is ridiculous.
And number three, I also want to read some hate mail.
And then we also have a guest, Andy No.
I was able to talk to him.
He's in London and I was able to get an audio call.
You might know him from getting completely harassed in Portland just a month ago.
But my name is Elijah Schaefer.
Welcome back to Slightly Offensive for a very special episode here talking about my take on what I know happened opposed to what the media and Democrat lawmakers are saying.
So let's jump right into this.
So first of all, Saturday there was a protest in Portland.
And of course, the media says it was white supremacists and these far-right people started this violence.
And there were these subtle anti-fascist and left-wing protesters who were trying to move hate out of the city.
Good old Ted Wheeler.
You might know him.
He's the Portland mayor.
He's such a wuss, man.
What a complete and utter loser.
And I'm not even into ad hominem, but look at this guy.
He's like a D-level Beto O'Rourke.
I mean, literally, if you just drop the O to an A in Beto, you have this guy's perfect title.
Pathetic.
And he's out there saying, listen, we had a pretty successful weekend because hate is no longer welcome in our city.
Yeah, okay.
First of all, number one, you didn't have a very successful weekend.
Nobody did, actually.
And neither did America because you have some lunatic psycho people inside of your city who are making up lies.
And you know that the Democrat and mainstream media outlets are fully shilling for these groups.
And I'm talking about Antifa.
Let's talk about this for a second.
Antifa, the homegrown domestic terrorist organization that everybody likes to always say, oh, anti-fascist.
These people are anti-fascist.
Like, because it doesn't sound, because Antifa already has a bad connotation.
When I say Antifa, do you say breaking, burning down the city?
Antifa, breaking and burning down the city.
Exactly.
People already, it's already synonymous with hooliganry and vandalism.
So they're like, you know, they have to always throw it out.
But of course, they never really named the right-wing groups that these people are combating.
That's always white supremacists, white nationalists.
And of course, they've somehow conflated proud boys to being white nationalists when only when I think 40% of proud boys are Hispanic and black.
Like, I think it's so funny.
And we're going to get into this right now.
There is a really interesting take on this.
The biggest scuffle that we captured and actually had the top trending video on Twitter.
By the way, thank you guys who supported our trip.
We had the top trending video.
It got retweeted by Donald Trump Jr.
And then we saw Donald Trump commenting as well about having his eyes on the event.
Yes, that was our video.
Thank you guys very much.
You guys are awesome.
And we worked really hard to put ourselves in the way of danger.
So, we filmed this video, right, of this bus attack, and we release it and showing, oh, this guy grabs the hammer, a hammer out of a Proud Boys bus that's stuck in traffic, okay, and throws it.
And this is a clip I put up, but nobody knows exactly what happened here.
And everyone starts telling me and journalist Andy No, that we're lying because these buses that were on this bridge, they were provoking protesters.
These proud boys, these white nationalists, they're attacking people.
And so, these Antifa came on the bridge, they defended their city, hoorah.
And by the way, little fact that you didn't know, that hammer that you said that Antifa threw at the bus was actually from the bus.
Therefore, proud boys are evil.
Nazis came to the city, the anti-fascists defended themselves in one, and you guys are propagandists and liars.
And that's what left-wing Twitterverse is saying about me and Andy No.
That we are liars because we had doctored clips that we selectively edited that just showed a guy throwing a hammer, and that's not what happened.
Welcome to the first segment, Hammergate.
This is getting real, guys.
Did the left-winger start the violence?
Did the right wingers start the violence?
Holy hell, I don't know.
Neither do you.
Just kidding, I do.
And I'm here to tell you what exactly went down.
So, what we're gonna keep finding is that the left wing actually did start the violence.
Okay, number one, they did.
And number two, they used illegal tactics and activities, including fascist tactics, to try to smash fash.
Nothing says I'm ready to get rid of Nazis, like implementing the very ideologies and doctrines that Nazis used to try to get rid of Nazis.
It's like fighting fire with fire.
What the hell is wrong with these people?
But let me just backtrack here for a second.
Towards the end of the protest, the right-wingers or proud boys, whatever, American Guard, they left their demonstration and they were in two buses, a black bus and a yellow bus, which are like essentially the ones that retards, or not supposed to say retards, but special needs people tend to ride in.
And so, it's like funny, anyways, right?
This whole situation is funny.
It's like these supposed white supremacists and these little like special needs buses, and it's just like, I love it.
This is fantastic.
And they're stuck in traffic because protesters had blocked the road below.
And there's these cars stuck.
Okay, this is moving traffic.
And they're not doing anything.
Then what happens is, is that this great guy named Christopher Dial, who's actually in jail, I think, or he's out of jail.
He got arrested for assault.
He comes up with some other people and they start hitting on the buses.
They actually provoke the attack fully.
And then they start throwing concrete.
And this is where we get this idea that these anti-fascists, you know, these Antifa are not just innocent people, but they are actually premeditating violence and attacks on the right wing.
Is simply because we found actual video evidence that was filmed by our team where they had opened up a black case, which they had taken from another location, which might be, it looks like it might be a city rat trap.
They knew that there was concrete in it.
They removed the concrete to get it past police lines and then began to throw concrete at this bus.
So let's stop there.
If you're in a car and someone is throwing slabs of concrete at you, I would say that is a viable threat upon your life.
You have every right in every situation to continue to defend your life.
Not to mention when there's a horde of people around your freaking special needs bus.
I think you would be a little scared.
Well, these people attacked the bus.
They kicked in the doors.
They hit them.
And then they basically, I don't know how the door opened of the bus, but the guy, a guy slipped.
And then a guy in green, the left wing, rushed the bus.
Okay.
A guy from the left wing rushed it.
So you got to understand these people were stuck in traffic.
They were leaving the area.
They were surrounded, which is illegal to get in the way of actual moving traffic.
Then they were rushed.
There was concrete thrown at them.
And one of the guys in the bus, this is my favorite part.
This is the hammergate part.
He takes a hammer to try to defend himself.
I'm sure he was afraid for his life.
And one of the guys grabs the hammer.
And the guy, Christopher Dial, he wears a beta cuck for life shirt, which Paul Joseph Watson said, weird flex, but okay, it's true.
He actually wore a shirt that said beta cuck for life.
And he grabs the hammer and he throws it back into the bus.
And he strikes the back of a Nazi.
No, he doesn't, which is going to bring us into this next segment.
Get ready for this.
This is freaking awesome.
unidentified
Okay.
elijah schaffer
Now, everybody starts grabbing this picture of, and they start showing this hand outside of the bus with the hammer.
And they're going, look.
Elijah Schaefer and Andy No are propagandist liars because the hammer came from the car.
Therefore, it's the right wingers who bring weapons and the left wingers are defending themselves.
What the hell?
Okay, this is what they do.
They show the hand.
Okay, number one, this is what I was going to say.
The guy holding the hammer is a, is a Ching Chinese guy.
I don't even know what he is.
I sound racist because, see, I sound racist towards, I'm like racist towards white supremacists.
I don't know.
Can you be racist towards Nazis?
You know, so this Nazi is an Asian man.
He's an Oriental.
Okay.
Like literally, this man, you know, I mean, realistically, what is he going to snap his chopsticks in the form of a swastika?
Like, no, you know, this guy is not a white supremacist.
I don't know where we started getting black white supremacists, Mexican white supremacists.
Like, holy hell, you know, have some common sense.
And they never show this.
And Huffington Post writer, actually, Christopher Matthias, I think his name is, tried to completely crap on Andy No, saying he's a propagandist because, look, this is a white supremacist inside who got injured.
But he cuts the head off in the picture of the guy who got hit.
So everyone thinks that he's a white person that got hit when he's an Asian.
Okay, this further proves my point.
So number one, it wasn't a white guy inside that had the hammer.
It was an Asian.
Number two, he was defending himself, which is a huge difference.
I don't know if he actually struck anyone, but he was defending himself.
And number three, their lives were in danger and they were pepper sprayed.
The cars were vandalized.
This hammergate, this idea of people saying because the weapon came from this group, therefore they're guilty is wrong.
Hammergate dismissed, okay?
The conspiracy is that the hammer did come from the car, but it was used in self-defense and it was not used by Nazi.
It was used by an Asian.
There you go.
Cleared it up.
Which brings me into this next segment.
Where are the Nazis?
You know?
Where are the Nazis?
I want to know this because everybody keeps saying there's white supremacists.
And all I saw in the Proud Boys demonstration, I saw people of every skin color, sexual orientation.
I don't think white supremacists and Nazis are really fond of the gays, you know?
Like, yeah, because, you know, it's like, it's like, it's like how we have Jewish white supremacists and Nazis now.
It doesn't make any sense.
And when I look at this, this, this matter of fact, you know, the mayor is like, hey, you know, these people were fighting against white supremacy.
Good.
Who the hell is pushing white supremacy?
Nobody, even white identitarians, like if you're actually intellectual about this and you want to discuss issues of race and class clashes between them, every race has their own identity, okay?
It's like you go to China and there are Chinese.
You go to South Korea, there are Koreans.
The only people who are not allowed to, you know, according to SJWs, to have an identity or to stick with their race are white people.
Because anytime a white person is proud of being white, anytime a white person has any type of identity, wants to marry a white person, or if they want to have white kids, immediately racist.
It's the same thing that goes for, you know, with Jews.
You criticize the Jews.
You're an anti-Semite.
There are certain groups and protected groups that people, you know, try to keep you from talking about.
And I got to say, I'm not afraid to talk about things.
If a white person is attracted to other white people and doesn't want to marry someone who's not black, doesn't make them racist.
That's called sexual attraction.
Okay.
And, you know, even white identitarians don't believe in white supremacy.
Like, they're not really believing that every other race is bad.
I think they just want, they believe in furthering the white identity.
I mean, that's not, I just think that like, if we're going to have an intellectual talk about this and we're going to try to oppose a group, right?
Can we at least like know the group we're opposing?
Can we at least understand this?
Because it's like, it's one thing for you to be against white identitarianism or to believe that white people need to not talk about anything like Stefan Molyneux does with like race-based IQ and stuff.
Fine, I don't care.
Have your own freaking opinion and don't talk about that stuff or don't like that stuff.
It's like, but if you're going to say that you're opposing these people, but then you just call them Nazis when it's like there are so many different factions and groups within these people that have different ideas and they're definitely not Nazis.
This is where we get into this weird discussion.
When politicians like Alexandria Casio-Cortez in her little, you know, ethnic squad or whatever they are call everybody they disagree with racist.
This is this new weird intervention that we have in the modern era where anybody that the left disagrees with is suddenly a part of the National Socialist Party, which of course Steven Crowder pointed out.
How are they saying that right-wingers are Nazis?
Like the right, Nazis were for gun control.
They were against free speech.
They basically were like against everything that we stand for.
So if we're Nazis, then what were the Nazis?
Because they sure as hell are not us.
And there's this constant threat of this boogeyman of like, white people, white power people are going to kill our kids.
They're going to stop the blacks and reinstate slavery.
And then it's like, you know, I get these great messages from someone.
I'm going to pull this one up here.
I got to find this.
This is so good.
I love, I love a little more fan mail here where a guy says, literally, he goes, Captain America says to punch a knot, to punch Nazis.
And if he were real, he'd kick your butt.
And it's like, okay, man, yeah, I'm a Nazi because I'm reporting.
Yeah, so Nazism is now filming an event, which is so funny.
Nazis are not a threat to the United States of America, and neither is white power, actually.
It's only a narrative that's being pressed.
You know, when we look at the shootings that happened recently in Dayton and in El Paso, nobody talks about the Dayton shooting because why?
It was an eco-fascist.
Nobody wants to talk about when the left-wingers, that trans kid, went in and shot up his school because it doesn't fit the freaking narrative.
But when you look at the right, anytime a white supremacist does something or somebody with white identity or they're white, it's white nationalism.
And you know what it is?
It's the distraction of the globalists and people and elites trying to divide our country and keep us from actually finding solutions.
And with white people, including mixed white and Hispanic, making up 72% of the population, this is demonizing the majority of the population against the minority and causing a race clash, which is exactly what communists want, to institute forms of totalitarianism to destroy the very liberties that make our country great.
And so yes, I'm tired of their crap.
I'm disgusted by it.
And I'm letting them know this isn't an issue.
And so, you know, I got to say, and I get all types of messages.
Here we go.
I got fan mail from so many people.
Let's look at some of these great and wonderful people.
We have this guy here.
So how often do you suck the cs of fascists?
It's like, dude, do you think fascists are really sucking c?
Like, that's really what you think they're doing.
You think of like, you know, Nazis are sucking each other's.
unidentified
Look at this.
elijah schaffer
Okay, let's get more fan mail.
Great.
And I think I said Monday nights at nine, yours was my fave.
I've got to always have a little bit of fun with these people.
I made a picture and said the future is disabled, which it is.
I'm going to culture that.
The future is disabled.
This person says, disable these hands, you beta piece of shit.
Ooh, got me there, buddy.
Someone said, you need an examination.
Wish the mental health your people always point to was a priority whenever some white supremacist lunatic shoots up a school, movie, theater, grocery store, church, bar, restaurant, or club.
Okay, first of all, who in the right is talking about mental health?
That is not a right-wing thing.
This guy doesn't even know which side is which.
Nobody on the right, is that a thing?
I don't think it's a thing.
No, that's not a thing.
Nobody's talking about mental health, really, at all.
It's all the left-wing talking about it, which we should talk about it more.
We should talk about mental health.
Of course, I said masturbate and go just because I felt like this was like a weird BDSM, like sensual thing.
These people are just kind of bizarre, and uh, and it's very, very, very bizarre.
And I'm kind of like, he's trying to put me under submission, but I find it very strange that he's making these claims because he's making stuff up.
So, I thought we were role-playing, you know, because it's like, where do you get these ideas?
This guy said, puto subnormale, oh halate, penguin un triro.
I'm just kidding, I have a better accent than that.
unidentified
Puto subnormal or hellat penguin un trio, whatever hell it says.
elijah schaffer
I don't even know.
And then he blocked me.
Someone said, ha ha ha, you dumbass.
Then you redacted lip bastard.
Hush while the adults speak.
Wow, tolerance, redacted lip bastard.
Look at you.
You look like such a great individual.
I'm sure you're really going to get your point across by starting your sentence out with redacted lip bastard.
Then you have, you're such a little dumb prick, Jesus Christ.
So I don't know if he was talking to Jesus Christ and calling him a prick, which you shouldn't call God a prick, but I think he meant to put a comma.
These people are terrible.
They don't speak English.
They don't have good grammar.
They don't even understand how to burn people.
It's absolutely hilarious.
Someone said, you epitomize everything you claim to be against.
You love the hate and hate towards you should probably seek counseling.
You love to hate and you hate to love.
Again, doesn't make sense, but we got two more here.
I like, this is one of my favorite ones.
I like this.
This one's nice.
This one's really good.
It says, you're a dumb son of a bitch.
Stop feet mongering.
Here's the typos.
These people can't even spell.
They're not educated.
That's the problem.
They don't have an educational bone in their body.
I said, stop feet mongering.
Isn't feet like when you feature people like Mick Nikki Minaj featuring people?
Well, I'm featuring you.
He said, stop feet mongering.
When your racists came to our city and they kicked their ass out because that's not what Portland is.
Talk some, talk some supreme and bring weapons from out of state.
Yes, they are going to throw that hammer back, you stupid.
They drove two buses from out of state, you stupid.
Who the f does that?
Who drives a bus from out of state?
Isn't that like kind of what one of the main uses of buses are?
Like, don't people use buses to like go across states?
I'm not going to say that I just recently drove a bus actually from Kansas to Colorado, but I did drive in a bus because that's what buses are for.
It's like, you stupid piece of crap.
They drove their cars here.
Who does that?
Everybody, literally, everybody, if they want to go to something, uses a form of transportation.
And in this case, they used buses, which is actually pretty economically feasible considering that you can take more people for less gas and also less parking.
And so I tell these people pretty fiscally conservative.
And so that's it.
And that's, and then I got this last thing, which is interesting.
Someone just sent me this picture of somebody's feet cut off in spaghetti.
I still don't know what this means, but it's bizarre.
But, you know, I'm going to end in saying this.
You know, I have my guest right now, Andy No, that I just spoke to last night.
You'll notice I'm wearing a different shirt.
It's because it was a different day that we recorded this interview just a few hours ago as he's traveling.
And he's a little famous guy.
And I really have enjoyed him.
We've become friends through this.
And it's been really nice to have somebody else who's on the front lines trying to expose the lunacy of what the left has become.
I welcome to the show Andy Ngo, journalist and writer for Quillette, as well as regular contributor to Fox News.
All right, Andy, so obviously recently, you know, you have some footage that you've been producing from the ground, which showed specifically an attack that happened on a bridge, which we are calling Hammergate.
And there are quite a few authors, including one from Huffington Post, which is accusing you of lying about the violence of the left wing.
Can you kind of explain to me what you saw happen that day on the bridge and what your opinion is on it?
andy ngo
It seems like there's been a lot of focus on this, the video that went viral reported by you showing the attack on the The black bus.
So, and people who are sympathetic to Antifa or who work in left-wing or leftist center media has focused on that the hammer could have come originally from inside the bus.
I think the whole thing is a red herring, to be honest.
You know, when these things are being first reported out, they're breaking news, the videos coming out, ASAP, as was any, even with the major news publications that have a huge budget and a huge staff and editorial team behind them.
Small mistakes here and there come through.
And then obviously, you issue corrections and all that.
So, on my original framing of the tweet when I retweeted your video, I didn't specify where the hammer came from because, to be honest, I couldn't see in the video.
It was hard to see.
And since then, everybody's analyzed it as if it was the Kennedy assassination video or something.
And yesterday, I released a full unedited clip that I did not have access to before.
So, that can be seen on my Twitter, which shows the people throwing concrete and other projectiles at the bus before surrounding it and then rushing it when the door opens.
And from what I could see, the hammer did come from one of the people inside who was trying to help his friend who was being potentially almost dragged out from the door.
And that hammer was taken from him and then used to attack him when one of the men in the helmets hurled it back at that person inside.
And then they proceeded to break part of the door and spray bare lace or pepper spray toward the direction of the bus driver as they were trying to drive off.
And the context for this, by the way, which is that there weren't any police in this area, and the buses were trying to leave.
Okay.
And I am intentionally leaving out the views of the various people involved in this and just talking about the actions that we see.
Because in my opinion, I don't, it's irrelevant really, the views of any particular people.
If they're being mobbed and beaten and menaced in this way, it needs to be called out.
It doesn't matter what their views are, especially in this case.
So what we know is that they were trying to leave and they could not leave because the streets were shut down by demonstrators.
elijah schaffer
Do you feel like you're being treated fairly by these people or you're being represented accurately?
andy ngo
No, I'm not being treated fairly.
I'm being treated, targeted really by political partisans who work in media.
This particular reporter with the Huffingt Post, after I was attacked on the 29th of June in that viral video that most people have seen by now, he actually tweeted out some stuff, basically condoning or rationalizing the actions of that day before quickly deleting his trail.
So I think there's some personal issues that he has against me that he's choosing to use the platform of the publications he's with and that in the position he has to target me personally.
To address the other points, let's see.
Well, What's frustrating is that most of the targeted harassment towards me has not been in good faith.
It's really choosing to misrepresent what I said, not bring attention to the fact that I did issue a clarification as soon as I was able to confirm things.
Like that didn't really matter to them.
I think they were upset that the footage that I put out or things that I retweeted got a lot of attention.
And it challenges this narrative that's being pushed by the mayor, by the local press, and by left-wing press that the event was entirely peaceful.
I mean, you know, yes, the city was bracing for potential bloodshed because there was so much heated and inflammatory rhetoric coming from both sides before the demonstrations.
And ultimately, nobody was killed.
But as you know, as we've seen in some of these videos, there were people who were injured, who were mobbed, who were targeted.
And I don't think that that's insignificant.
I think it's telling that now the standard seems to be the fact that because no one died, that means it was somehow a peaceful day.
You know, it was anything.
But there were issues with policing because this was a full force of the Portland police who came out in such large numbers that at various times they would keep retreating from certain areas.
I don't, and this is something that I've seen over and over.
They just stand down in the face of the Antifa demonstrators who choose to occupy the streets or shut down traffic and they just leave and then these little skirmishes and bouts of violence would break out.
Then they'll come back.
So I mean to me that that's not fair to the citizens of Portland.
One bicyclist was seriously injured when one of the demonstrators who was part of the day's protests, who was part of the street occupation, she was riding on the completely wrong side of the wrong side of the direction of the traffic on a scooter that had been passed around by various Antifa protesters.
And he collided into her and he was really seriously injured.
He was going the right way.
So, I mean, these instances of many, which there are many, are not insignificant.
And I think there's a lot of effort to downplay what happened because it challenges the narrative that Antifa is a good, peaceful movement.
elijah schaffer
From your summary overall, as you've been witnessing the attacks of Antifa, do you feel like this group is actually mostly peaceful, like Mayor Ted Wheeler of Portland mentioned?
Or do you feel like this group is actually leading the country towards bipartisan or just partisan in general violence that could lead to a terminal end for some protesters?
andy ngo
Here's the paradox of Antifa.
Okay, so the attention that I bring to them is focused on the in part on the street hooliganism, which you see how they target so viciously and brutally in large numbers people that they consider ideological opponents or sometimes even just bystanders who get caught into things.
But at the same time, the paradox here is that the anti-fascism movement, the larger number of people are those who are not engaging in this type of street thuggery.
That's important to say.
However, the small number of the violent extremists draw morale and support and protection from the majority number of people who are not engaging in the violence, but nonetheless support and agree with what they do.
So you can see that in the responses online to what happened to me after I was beaten and robbed in June, of which there's been no arrest, by the way.
It's almost eight weeks now.
And you can see that in the response to what happened last weekend in Portland.
The narrative control is extremely important to anti-Farz propaganda and PR because they need the support of a critical mass of the public to do what they're continuing to do, to show up with the planned mob tactics to go and to injure people, right?
So antifaz both.
It's violent and it's non-violent.
And what I'm particularly interested in and want to bring attention to is, I think, this extremist ideology.
I think all this rhetoric talking about them being terrorists and all that can sometimes divert their attention away from really what their goals are and what they're agitating for.
And, you know, if you invite me back on your show, I'd like to talk about that.
But it certainly is an extremist radical ideology with a desire for revolution.
So these are the types of things that most of the public is not aware of and what makes FTFA more dangerous than these isolated incidents of street thuggery.
elijah schaffer
Andy, thank you so much for tuning in from London.
Have a great rest of the day.
andy ngo
Thank you.
And thank you for the amazing coverage you provided on Saturday.
You provided some of the best footage out of all everyone.
elijah schaffer
Thanks, Andy.
Have a great day.
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