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Feb. 22, 2019 - Slightly Offensive - Elijah Schaffer
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Jussie Smollett Hoax Hate Crime | Social Exp #1

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elijah schaffer
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elijah schaffer
Help stop fake hate crimes guys.
This is the third fake hate crime that got the news.
Real hate crimes are not are not recorded on the news.
The news doesn't care about minorities or gays.
They care about pushing an agenda.
unidentified
We live in the freest nation in the world, and we're always like trying to start problems with each other instead of just getting along.
This makes it worse for everyone.
It's probably not the best to call him a faker because we don't know all the details yet.
So I think we should wait until the investigation is done before we start putting labels on him.
elijah schaffer
We know that he lied about his phone records.
He lied about who attacked him.
And we know that the attack didn't take place the way that he said because of confession.
And this is the problem is that people feel like they have to fabricate stories rather than actually focusing on the real issues.
unidentified
I don't care what they know.
And I don't care what they say.
elijah schaffer
What's up, guys?
Welcome back to Slightly Offensive.
We are here with Turning Point USA.
This is Sarah.
unidentified
Yeah?
Yeah.
elijah schaffer
Yeah.
So we're here and we're raising awareness about fake hate crimes in the United States.
Are you guys aware of fake hate crimes in the US?
Don't buy into the lives of the mainstream media.
Just because someone's a minority or gay doesn't mean they're a victim.
You're powerful and you're strong.
You're an American.
I think he's legit.
I mean, what makes you think that?
unidentified
Well, honestly, I don't know.
elijah schaffer
Do you think he did it to divide the country or what do you think his motives are?
unidentified
I mean, partially can be influenced by the economic status that he's experiencing compared to like his surroundings and he's like a millionaire.
Did he grow up being a millionaire?
elijah schaffer
I don't think anyone really, that many people grow up being millionaires.
unidentified
Exactly.
So it's like his brain's having conflicts with like who he's trying to be versus who he was.
elijah schaffer
Do you feel that hate crimes are the biggest issue facing minority communities such as LGBT or the black community?
unidentified
I can't, you know, as a white male, I can't really comment on those communities.
You can?
elijah schaffer
You're an American.
unidentified
I can comment on it.
I just, I don't know if I feel comfortable speaking for them, but in my opinion, I would say like, I think hate crimes are a huge deal.
elijah schaffer
Are you guys a frat or something?
unidentified
We're not going to touch you.
Why not?
elijah schaffer
Well, I mean, you could make fun of me, but I'm also just asking you a simple question.
I mean, that could be cool and be yeah, you could be decent and not make fun of me also.
Well, to mock my voice when I'm actually trying to actually start a conversation.
We got fake hate crimes.
They're a problem in our country.
People are making up lies to push narratives, and this is not where we should be as a country.
Do you agree or disagree with that?
unidentified
I agree with that, sure.
elijah schaffer
Are you against fake hate crimes, sir?
Will anybody disavow fake hate crimes?
Does the narrative matter more than the truth?
unidentified
I'll give you some context.
I did my undergrad at Berkeley.
I'm a grad student here.
And I remember how much people try to race bait there when we were walking to class like here.
And I would always be like, hey, that's f***ed up.
And I understand why people.
There was one time, October 11th, a couple years ago, where they blocked the entrance for white people to walk in.
So if you're white, you couldn't walk in.
I was like, I don't have to deal with that s ⁇ again.
And people are like, yeah, well, white people destroy our world.
When s ⁇ like this happens, it f ⁇ ks everything up.
And just makes me upset because we should be Americans.
elijah schaffer
Is there statistics to back that up?
unidentified
That hate crimes?
elijah schaffer
Not that they are a big deal, but is it like one of the biggest problems facing minority communities?
unidentified
Oh, no.
In modern contemporary society?
No, of course not.
I would think things like, you know, the like socioeconomic issues are probably at the forefront or like, you know, literacy, you know, access to education and healthcare and things like that are.
I don't think hate crimes are in the U.S. occurring on a day-to-day basis.
No, I don't.
elijah schaffer
All right, awesome.
So what's your name, man?
unidentified
Caesar.
elijah schaffer
Caesar.
All right.
What do you think about this sign?
You agree with it or disagree with it?
unidentified
Considering I don't know who that is, but I've been told that a bit about the situation.
I suppose so.
I don't know what to think yet.
elijah schaffer
So being arrested, being charged with lying and kind of setting up his own hate crime, that's where we're at at the moment.
I mean, why do you think he did it?
unidentified
People tend to do a lot of irrational things.
In this case, if it was, I mean, was he a political figure before?
elijah schaffer
Well, he was, well, he was a political activist.
Yeah, he's friends with Kamala Harris, Corey Booker, the Obamas.
But additionally, he's also an empire star and a singer.
And then on top of that, he's actually an activist against Donald Trump and said that this crime was done by Trump supporters who yelled this is MAGA country as they poured bleach on him, beat him up, and put a noose around his neck.
Yeah.
unidentified
Well, that's a big problem.
A lot of people, they just take too hard to one side of the spectrum, of political spectrum, rather.
And I'd say this is definitely a bit too far.
elijah schaffer
Obviously.
unidentified
I mean, if it was faked, awful.
If it wasn't faked, awful.
Either way, it's kind of a big problem that's been reoccurring, I'd say.
Right.
elijah schaffer
Do any of you guys have a different opinion?
What do you guys think about Jussie?
What do you guys think about Jesse?
You guys think this guy's legit or what?
We don't hear about overpopulation of blacks in prisons.
We don't hear about the issue of more blacks are aborted than are born.
But yet at the same time, we're here making fake hate crimes.
There are real issues that we need to care about.
And yet we're trying to blame Trump for all of our problems.
This was a fake hate crime.
Blamed MAGA people, but it was made up.
He's under grand jury.
Jussie Smollett, Empire's not firing him.
Would you admit that college students care more about narratives than the truth oftentimes?
unidentified
I do.
Like I said, I went to Cal.
I remember I saw Ben Shapiro.
He came twice there.
I saw him once, and there are all these flyers about how he was a white supremacist and all this shit.
And I didn't know anything about Ben Shapiro.
So I'm like, fuck this guy.
He's a white supremacist.
I'm going to walk in and tell this guy to fuck off.
I walk in.
This guy's wearing a yamuka and he's saying nothing offensive at all.
But yet we have these flyers distributed like by airplane load everywhere.
And it's just complete bullshit.
Just question everything, especially when people try to race bait.
I mean, I'm a fucking colored person.
I mean, I've experienced racism in my life, but it's much, much less to a degree than is reported in the media.
From my experience at least.
elijah schaffer
What do you think about this hoax?
I'm really busy right now.
All right.
You know what, though?
A man in a peacoat is probably busy.
And what's your opinion on the case?
unidentified
I do believe that he was in the wrong for faking it, but stuff like this actually does happen.
So it's his fault, but it also has to be taken notice to the fact that it also happens to other people in real life.
It's not fake for those other people.
elijah schaffer
Do you think that we don't hear about Trump people attacking gays and blacks because the media doesn't report on it or because it doesn't really happen?
unidentified
It's also the fact that Trump supporters, they like to say that he's not racist.
So people that support Trump like to cover it up and say like, oh, he had other motives.
He's not racist.
But I definitely think it's both of those that you said.
elijah schaffer
What do you think?
unidentified
I also think that it's probably not the best to call him a faker because we don't know all the details yet.
So I think we should wait until the investigation is done before we start putting labels on him.
elijah schaffer
We know that he lied about his phone records.
He lied about who attacked him.
And we know that the attack didn't take place the way that he said because of confession.
Jussie Smollett is fighting to divide the country.
We have real issues going on.
And we have people trying to make up fake stories.
I mean, there are real issues, right?
Facing gay community, black community, anything.
But then why fabricate a hate crime if there's real issues?
unidentified
That was his choice.
elijah schaffer
And he's going to face the punishment for it.
That's all I gotta say.
unidentified
I think I'd probably want to wait until the grand jury comes back with their decision on whether or not this is real or not.
elijah schaffer
Well, they know it wasn't real, but whether or not he's gonna get charged with the felony, because the evidence shows that it wasn't real, right?
They have security cam footage where he didn't have, he didn't have the attack on footage.
He had his subway sandwich in hand when he was leaving.
They found the two suspects.
They weren't white, like he said.
They made confessionals.
They had a death letter sent to his office.
They found the magazines in the house with the pages cut out that they used to make the letters.
So all the evidence is there, but obviously we can't put the verdict on him because that wouldn't be fair because that's what we live in our free country, right?
I mean, he has to go through a jury of our peers.
But I mean, so it is fake, but I mean, whether or not he's a criminal is what the jury will decide.
Do you feel like the ends justifies the mean?
Like, because he's an actor.
What if he came out and said this was all an act?
This was activism.
Because he did really, he's a good actor, actually.
He is.
So if you come out and he goes, yeah, actually, I did this whole thing as a, not a joke, but like to show, should he still be prosecuted for lying, or do you feel like the ends justifies the means here?
unidentified
I think he still should be prosecuted because he did take like money from like an investigation that could have been used for other resources to solve other crimes that actually did happen.
So yes, he still should be prosecuted, but I mean, I could see like why he would try to do that, though.
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No one else has covered that story.
elijah schaffer
Going to the World Socialism Conference here in LA on the 16th of March?
unidentified
I don't think I can.
elijah schaffer
I'll be there.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean...
elijah schaffer
...eroding socialism.
A lot of our viewers are, like, I would say about half of our viewers are socialists.
Maybe?
Maybe.
Maybe it's maybe less, but a lot.
But so I want to make that's good that we cover these kinds of things.
unidentified
I mean, socialism is on the rise.
You know, Trump just had a speech which denounced socialism, and no other U.S. president has actually gone that far.
elijah schaffer
That was a pretty good speech.
People don't want to acknowledge that.
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