Elijah Schaffer surveys Australians on the Gold Coast, where many dismiss Donald Trump as a "douchebag" or "joke," citing his border wall rhetoric and perceived racism. Others admit ignorance despite his presidency, while a few grudgingly acknowledge economic gains like low minority unemployment. Skepticism flares over media portrayals—UK outlets call him an "idiot"—and his communication style, though one notes Mueller’s findings on Russian interference. Trump’s business background and 20-year policy consistency contrast with critics’ motives, leaving some feeling like "outcasts" for supporting him despite flaws. The episode reveals a mix of personal bias, policy disagreement, and broader cultural resistance to Trump’s influence. [Automatically generated summary]
Because he's just a douchebag in everything that he does.
Like, what did he do specifically?
i don't know he doesn't care about any nature problems people problems and like which nature problems uh I think he's opening, like, he's taking some of the areas of the national parks to make spaces for like industries or something like that.
So, like, pretty much most American politicians are just like previously lawyers and they've never really studied politics.
Like, So like one of the primary like actual influences of like politics in America is people study law or business and he happens to be one of the most influential businessmen in the world.
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That's granted.
He's great.
I mean he's a good businessman.
Yeah, don't know how his business is run but you know he's known to be you know someone who's good at business or someone who does well in business.
Yeah, but like if you had an option, like let's say like, okay, I get Obama and like he kind of sucks, but like he doesn't get anything done, but he's like a cordial man who would like buy you champagne on the bar.
But at the same time, you go out and you're like, Trump's like gonna grab my daughter by the, but at the same time, he's like gonna fix the whole world.
What do you think about that?
unidentified
I don't know if he's gonna fix the whole world.
I just think you gotta find the middle, like, I don't think it's nice.
Like even Oprah, are you familiar with Oprah Winfrey?
She spoke very highly of him as well.
She actually interviewed him on a show and about 20 years ago he said he wanted to run for president and said he wanted to change America.
And his stance 20 years ago on a Sean Oprah is the exact same stance he had today, yet he was being praised 20 years ago and today he's being ostracized.
Do you think that's because he really has bad policies or is it because there's an agenda against him?
unidentified
I would have known.
I genuinely would have known.
I think it's because people don't think he's right for the job.
Yeah, well, technically it's in North Africa and Libya.
So like basically Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama knew that one of our ambassadors from the United States was being murdered and they chose to stand down and then they lied on national television and said that the attack was started because of a video.
So they let Americans get murdered on foreign soil, then lied about it to the American people.
Don't you think that kind of looks a little bad on someone?
unidentified
I mean I guess so, but like lying like, hey, my family got murdered and I'm lying about it.
I mean it's not only my place to say because I'm not you know a part of it I guess.
So if there was like Australians in their country like let's say Benghazi not Benghazi let's just say like a hypothetical place called Benghazi and then they were like murdered on the soil and your government could have stopped it but they didn't for political reasons would you be ticked?
Right of course there is because like mathematics and whatnot but the question is then it's like how could we do better than we are doing now because like we've been in a pretty bad place for a long time and now we're doing amazing so like does Donald Trump get any credit for that or no?
unidentified
I mean I guess he I'm not like against him or anything but like I'm not gonna hold anything like if you know what I mean like I don't care about him or anything so I'm not gonna hold anything against him.
Should We Forgive Trump?00:03:03
unidentified
But like if he's doing a good job then good on him.
I mean, it's just about what he's done, what he's said, anything that he's sort of any, whatever catastrophe he's caused or what he might cause is displayed.
I mean, they're not that biased, but it's kind of evident that he says something and then everyone's like, is this the right thing to do?
So, like, would you say it's a fair enough if you're a person and you apologize for what you said?
Would that be fair enough to forgive someone?
unidentified
Yeah, I think so.
Have you explained yourself and you sort of said, you know, you sort of identified why everyone thought it was that way, but you actually meant something else?
Or if you're sorry that you offended people, then yeah.
Yeah, so like Donald Trump's biggest statements, which of course, I don't need to mention them because those of you that are watching, y'all know what that orange man said.
But the reality is that he actually has apologized and publicly spoken out against some of the things that people have placed against him as being misspoken or being misinterpreted or just regretting what he said entirely.
So do you think it's time for America to actually forgive Donald Trump and give him a chance at a new life?
Or is he just stuck where he's at?
unidentified
I don't know.
I mean, at the same time, you can't keep saying something and then just apologizing for it.