Live from Dallas, Texas, it's Brendan Schaub joining Tim today. They talk his own path in comedy, Brendan's personal life, the future of social media, the first time he did stand up, and discuss some controversial questions near the end. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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| Hi, I'm Timmy the Trash Can, and I love trash. | |
| Popcorn boxes, pops, and candy wrappers. | |
| Mmm, they all taste so good. | |
| Instead of throwing your trash on the floor, won't you please give it to me? | |
| Thank you for considering your fellow patrons. | |
| Welcome to the Tim Dylan show, everybody. | |
| We are here in Dallas, Texas, and we've got Brendan Schaub coming up. | |
| We have a lot of fun talking to him. | |
| He was in town doing the Addison Improv. | |
| Joe Rogan was in town doing the American Airlines Center in downtown Dallas. | |
| And Tony Hinchcliffe was in town opening for Joe. | |
| So we had a lot of West Coast people invading the Dallas-Fort Worth area, the Metroplex, as they call it. | |
| When I, you know, Schaub was staying at a really nice hotel right down by where Kennedy, JFK, committed suicide in the middle of the road. | |
| So I saw that. | |
| They have an ex, nice and fun and real creepy on the street where he got whacked. | |
| And you, know, and then last night I was at the early show. | |
| The early show was real drunk. | |
| I mean, they were good. | |
| They were decent. | |
| They were fun, but they were real drunk. | |
| And you get the feeling, I'm like, these motherfuckers would kill Kennedy all over again. | |
| They'd kill him again. | |
| You just, you just get the vibe that these people would fucking shoot that guy in the head again. | |
| That nothing has really changed. | |
| Nada. | |
| Nothing's really changed. | |
| They would just go in. | |
| These fuckers would go in and get rid of that guy. | |
| ASAP. | |
| No questions asked. | |
| You get that feeling here. | |
| When you walk around Texas, you get the feeling like if there was ever a place for a coup in this country, it's gonna be here. | |
| It's gonna be here. | |
| And it was. | |
| Like, if there's ever a place to get rid of the guy that says maybe we should stop, like, you know, lifting fucking uranium from the Amazon and maybe the CIA shouldn't be in a facto double government. | |
| Like, if there was ever a place to shoot that guy in the head in front of his wife, it was it's here. | |
| And you get that by the audiences. | |
| You're like, oh, yeah, you guys are, you guys are down. | |
| You guys are with it. | |
| There will be video for Schaub. | |
| I know many of you complain about the video. | |
| Here's why we don't give a fuck about YouTube anymore. | |
| And we're doing YouTube as a way to make the experience better for everybody. | |
| We like being on camera. | |
| We like the video. | |
| But the reality is, YouTube is over. | |
| It's done. | |
| They're taking everybody's money. | |
| They're not allowing people to monetize their channels. | |
| Guys like David Dobrik, who have hundreds of millions of views, are talking about that their ad revenue has been fucking cut. | |
| So I have nothing compared to these people. | |
| So a lot of the big YouTubers, guys like Logan Paul or whatever, they've started podcasts, H3H3, because they're smart and they know that the ad revenue is going to be made up for in podcasting. | |
| YouTube is fucking done with small creators. | |
| They're done. | |
| They don't want independent creators. | |
| They want that's why when you go to YouTube and you, you know, YouTube Jeffrey Epsy and the first five videos are MSNBC, CNN, and they all have 70 or 80,000 views. | |
| No one gives a fuck. | |
| But all of those corporate companies are now dominating YouTube, even though, you know, Luke Radowski, who's stuck on Epstein's Island video, has close to a million views, which should have more, by the way. | |
| But they're not promoting that in the same way that they're promoting the corporate media videos. | |
| And this is just the end of the road. | |
| We knew it was going to happen. | |
| They can deactivate your channel now if what you do isn't commercially viable. | |
| In their new contract, when Ben uploads videos, they go, is this suitable for children? | |
| And if you say yes and it's not, they can sue you. | |
| Obviously, nothing we do is suitable for children. | |
| Everything is adult comedic, you know, satirical videos and podcasts, none of which are, you know, appropriate for children. | |
| But this is what YouTube is now doing. | |
| They are getting out of the business of small creators, what essentially built them. | |
| And they're getting into the business. | |
| I mean, YouTube will be Netflix. | |
| You guys can't go on Netflix. | |
| Can't go on Netflix and start a channel. | |
| And that's going to be what YouTube eventually is. | |
| That's just what it is. | |
| You know, there was probably some smoke-filled room at the Bilderberg conference or the Davos conference where a bunch of guys were like, we've had just about enough of this. | |
| Technology has allowed people to go out there and truly ruffle the feathers of billionaires that haven't had those feathers ruffled for decades. | |
| And I think in the beginning, they tolerated it and it even helped them because technology was just this way that you could complain about things but not take any action. | |
| So it was this simulation, essentially, this world that you could kind of just, you know, participate in. | |
| But those people, it was like, it was like, great, let them tweet. | |
| Let them, you know, talk to each other on Facebook. | |
| Let them vent all their grievances online. | |
| We're never going to have to deal with it. | |
| Well, then what happened? | |
| Online started to get a little too real. | |
| You know, people like Donald Trump got elected. | |
| Brexit, you know, happened. | |
| All of these things that a lot of people, and I'm not saying these are good things or bad things. | |
| And I'm not saying that the people are all going to make the right choices all the time anyway. | |
| But empowering people is not on the agenda of the elites. | |
| This is just not part of the thing. | |
| They want people to feel empowered and not be empowered. | |
| They want you to feel good, but they don't want you to have the power to really do anything, certainly not upset the world order that they've really created. | |
| So somewhere there was a smoke-filled room in Davos and they were going, you know, this has been cute. | |
| This has been fun. | |
| We've allowed them to have a little bit of fun, but now it's time to rein it in. | |
| Now it's time to shut it down. | |
| Now it's time to basically hand the internet over to the corporations that we handed television over to. | |
| And these fuckers aren't stupid. | |
| They know TV is eventually done. | |
| So what do you think? | |
| All these massive media corporations are not going to come in and suck the money out of the internet. | |
| Now that's what they're going to do. | |
| The internet for a long time was just freewheeling Wild West. | |
| You could do what you wanted. | |
| You could start a channel. | |
| You could go viral. | |
| You could get views. | |
| You could build an audience. | |
| You could monetize it. | |
| Goodbye. | |
| That is over. | |
| They're done with that. | |
| And I truly believe we're maybe the last generation of people to find ways. | |
| I'm not saying that no one will ever find ways to monetize content again. | |
| They will. | |
| It's the reality of what it is. | |
| It's human nature. | |
| This is where a lot of people are now making a living. | |
| But, you know, right now it's going to be tough. | |
| So when all you fuckers complain, the video, I want the video. | |
| Shut up. | |
| You're lucky you get anything. | |
| This channel could go goodbye really soon. | |
| And by the way, channels with 500,000 subscribers, 1 million subscribers, 10 million, they can be wiped off YouTube if they're not quote unquote commercially viable and if they're not making YouTube enough money. | |
| And I think it really goes back to the idea that people in power Are not really thrilled with the idea that you can create a channel on YouTube that gets more views than the nightly news. | |
| That means that they are losing the power and they're losing control of what you are watching and what you are listening to. | |
| That is not in their plan. | |
| They do not like that. | |
| And I guarantee there was some meeting somewhere in one of these big conferences where they basically said, you know what? | |
| This has been a fun little experiment. | |
| We've enjoyed this. | |
| We've collected a lot of data. | |
| We've learned a lot of things. | |
| But now it's time for the adults to re-enter the room and carve up this space. | |
| This is just what it is, is what's happening. | |
| Right now, the only freedom left is podcasting, which as which, just like radio has always been an auditory format where you basically put your words out there for people to listen to. | |
| That is probably all that's going to be left. | |
| Because once you subscribe to my podcast, for now, by the way, until they find a way to fucking change this, because Apple, Apple already has technology that is transcribing all of the podcasts that are happening, and they're going back, they're backlogging and transcribing podcasts that have already happened. | |
| Why are they doing that? | |
| I don't know, but that's not a great sign. | |
| I don't necessarily love that. | |
| And I don't know if they're going to say, well, you said these three words in this combination, and that means you're out. | |
| You're getting a strike, three strikes, and you're gone. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But I will tell you this: as of right now, because all you have to do is hit subscribe on a podcast feed, this is the only thing that they can really take. | |
| And by the way, this is hard to even complain about because if you complain about this stuff, people think you're a Nazi because those are the people that are getting thrown the fuck off. | |
| So if you, if you complain, if you're like, I got deplatformed, people are like, well, what are you talking about? | |
| What are you talking about on there? | |
| It's a hard thing to complain about. | |
| It's actually one of those things where if you publicly vent or complain to somebody that you're getting deplatformed off social media, they're like, well, what are you doing? | |
| Talking about the shapes of skulls? | |
| What are you using your YouTube channel for? | |
| It's like, no, I'm dressing up like Gislane Maxwell and an in-and-out. | |
| I'm dressing up like Megan McCain, but it's still, you know, you're still, you feel weird talking about it because people think you're some lunatic that's trying to start a race war when in fact you're just fucking making people laugh. | |
| But the problem is there's, they don't want to differentiate people that are actually, you know, trying. | |
| And I'm sure there are people out there 100% that are using YouTube to recruit people into violent groups and whatever. | |
| And I just, we know that that's happening. | |
| But what they're going to do is just get rid of everybody that's even the least bit controversial. | |
| That's just what's going to happen. | |
| And it's hard to complain about. | |
| I mean, I can complain on my show about it, but and I could talk to people that are aware of what's going on about it. | |
| But the general public doesn't care. | |
| This is my point. | |
| The general public doesn't give a fuck. | |
| They don't make really money off YouTube. | |
| And if you start complaining that you're deplatformed, they think you're crazy and you're doing something wrong. | |
| It's just the way it is. | |
| They don't care. | |
| People love authority. | |
| This is what people are into. | |
| People are like, well, I'm sure you did something. | |
| Like, they don't necessarily, they're not siding with you. | |
| And I get it because every now and then there are people that shouldn't be on these things doing crazy stuff. | |
| You know? | |
| But that's the thing. | |
| That's the future. | |
| The future is going to be, you click subscribe on the podcast. | |
| You're subscribed to the podcast. | |
| That is great. | |
| Until that changes and until they can start fucking with that algorithm. | |
| And God only knows. | |
| And I hope they don't. | |
| But that's going to be the last thing that's left pretty much for everybody. | |
| YouTube channels are going to appear and disappear at the discretion of YouTube. | |
| I don't put a lot of videos on Instagram anymore. | |
| People ask me, I just made a fun Disney video, you know, about some psychopath. | |
| And by the way, enough with the Disney Plus. | |
| Fuck off. | |
| Enough. | |
| Grow up. | |
| How many times do you need to watch fucking Captain America over and over again? | |
| Grow the fuck up. | |
| I understand that it's probably a good service, whatever, especially if you have kids or whatnot, and you want to introduce them to the, you know, movies that they may not have seen. | |
| It's all in your living room. | |
| But if you're an adult without any children and you're really excited about Disney Plus, you should be in jail. | |
| Okay? | |
| Enough. | |
| My friend Jared Logan, who's a very funny comedian, said once about Disney. | |
| He goes, it's the first culture you're exposed to. | |
| It's not supposed to be the fucking last. | |
| It's not supposed to be the last culture you're exposed to. | |
| It's the first. | |
| You're supposed to use that as a jumping off point to get to other things, to get to other books and films. | |
| It's not just supposed to be the Lion King forever and Disney Cruises. | |
| People go see the Lion King on Broadway. | |
| It's like, what the fuck is wrong with you? | |
| Figure it out. | |
| But this is what's going to happen. | |
| It's all consolidation. | |
| All of these major media companies emerging. | |
| The era of the independent creator, I'm being a little dramatic now, but I think you might look back and go, the era of the independent creator is over, where you could just really amass a following and monetize what you're doing. | |
| It doesn't seem to be, you know, it doesn't seem to be a model that is going to last for right now. | |
| So all you, you know, and you guys can't really do anything about it and I can't do much about it. | |
| You know, the podcast seems to be the last vestige of being able to say what you want, although I'm sure they can take you off Apple Podcast if they want. | |
| They don't seem to be doing that. | |
| I have a lot of friends with a lot of wild podcasts. | |
| And, you know, they don't seem to be doing that as of now. | |
| It's all for now. | |
| It's all a limited time only. | |
| You know, me and Luis Gomez had a talk and we're like, maybe the final thing is going to actually be the live show. | |
| Maybe the reality is just going to be if you want to hear things, you're going to have to go out live. | |
| You're going to have to leave your house, buy a ticket, sit in a comedy club or a theater, and hear what people say live. | |
| It may literally go back to that. | |
| It might just be a big circle that takes you back to live performance because there's just too many hands in the cookie jar if it's not live. | |
| There's too many fucking people and corporate power structures that have to get involved between what people are creating and what you're consuming. | |
| There's just a lot. | |
| So YouTube is pretty much over unless something changes drastically. | |
| And by the way, they prevent people, you know, nobody gets notification when I do a YouTube video. | |
| They don't notify. | |
| We've got maybe 18 or 20,000 people that are subscribed to the channel. | |
| We should have a lot more, but my videos are not appearing in Sigat, even though people love them and they're funny. | |
| They have a huge amount of engagement. | |
| YouTube doesn't even want that anymore. | |
| So they're not appearing in suggested videos and nobody's being, a lot of people are not being notified when I post a new video. | |
| So the tools that YouTube has to limit my reach, I mean, they're using, they're certainly not helping me build a fan base on YouTube. | |
| They're just not doing it. | |
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| They have no interest in facilitating. | |
| Is this all Gary Vee? | |
| Good question. | |
| Is it Gary Van Yorchuck? | |
| Is that who I pissed off that I piss off Gary Vee? | |
| Now he's going around all these tech companies. | |
| I don't know. | |
| I think it's bigger than that. | |
| I think they just don't have an interest in independent creators. | |
| That's fucking the way it is. | |
| I'm very late to the game. | |
| I got into mortgages a year before it collapsed. | |
| I got into stand-up comedy late to the game. | |
| This is just what I do. | |
| As soon as I get involved in something, it's over. | |
| They'll probably get rid of podcasts in a year. | |
| As soon as I get good at something, it's done. | |
| I'm just that guy. | |
| I show up late to the party. | |
| All the good shit's already happened. | |
| And I'm just there cleaning up the kitchen and watching some girl vomit. | |
| That's what it is. | |
| So I show up late to the party. | |
| So those of you that are that are like, what the fuck's going on? | |
| I know a lot of you don't give a fuck. | |
| Like I said, it doesn't affect you in your daily life. | |
| You're not making a living live streaming. | |
| That's fine. | |
| But listen, go subscribe to the YouTube channel for as long as it's around. | |
| Stay subscribed to the podcast. | |
| I'm hoping to God that the podcast is just the thing that endures. | |
| I'm hoping it endures because radio in some form or another has endured. | |
| I think podcasting will endure. | |
| As far as the video content and where that's going to go, that's a great question. | |
| I know that some people are just hosting it on their own websites. | |
| You know, the future of that, I don't know. | |
| Or YouTube might just be a place you could park your content, but very few people are going to see it relative to the amount of people that would have seen it. | |
| And you're not going to make any fucking money. | |
| That being said, we have a great interview coming up, Brandon Schaub. | |
| I spent about an hour with Brendan. | |
| He's a really funny guy. | |
| You know, people think I hate him for absolutely no reason because I made a joke, which me and him talk about with Lewis where I call him the greatest comedian in the world, which he's not. | |
| That's why it's funny. | |
| But I could have said that pretty much about anybody because nobody's the greatest comedian in the world. | |
| Comedy's stupid. | |
| It's a dumb thing. | |
| And all of you that are precious about it, all of you out there that are like comedy snobs, you're even dumber than the people that are doing it because it doesn't matter. | |
| It's really dumb. | |
| I work my ass off on jokes to have a unique perspective. | |
| And the funniest thing I say is that, you know, somebody with a, you know, a T-Mobile phone has AIDS or whatever. | |
| And the audience goes crazy at that. | |
| It doesn't matter. | |
| It's irrelevant. | |
| And, you know, I love it. | |
| Other comedians love it. | |
| It's what we've dedicated our lives to. | |
| But God, does it fucking not matter at all? | |
| So anybody out there that's like, you think somebody deserves to be successful, somebody doesn't deserve to be successful, I get it. | |
| I understand you have strong opinions, but also understand that they don't fucking matter. | |
| It doesn't really matter what you think. | |
| You don't care. | |
| We're living in the United States of America. | |
| We're at the end of the empire. | |
| It's all over. | |
| All the trends are converging. | |
| We're going to be rationing water soon. | |
| So these are going to be the good times when you guys were discussing which clowns deserve their money and which clowns didn't. | |
| Which clowns should have had more. | |
| I get it. | |
| I get it out there. | |
| But this is going to be the good times. | |
| In 30 years, when you walk outside and the sun fries you and your, you know, your kids are fucking, you know, walking to school in 109 degree weather and everybody's got to have some fucking weird sun cloak on and it's like Mad Max. | |
| You're going to look at this time and go, you know, that was a really fun time that we had. | |
| But I talked to Brendan for about an hour. | |
| We go into everything from a lot of the online hate that he gets. | |
| We talk about how he started in comedy. | |
| We talk about the fact that I'm a better swimmer than him and Rogan and all of those guys. | |
| Even though they think they're athletes, I was a great swimmer. | |
| We discussed that. | |
| We talk about politics a little bit. | |
| We get his feeling on kids playing football, transgender athletes who go through a real lightning round of hot button issues. | |
| And I had a lot of great time on that podcast, The Fighter and the Kid. | |
| I'll see those guys again soon, hopefully. | |
| And hopefully I'll be on your mom's house. | |
| We don't know. | |
| The ban is still in effect, apparently. | |
| I missed that Dr. Drew episode and I didn't show up for it. | |
| And I was going to be rebooked, but that was a while ago. | |
| So still no call from your mom's house. | |
| It is pretty, maybe tweet at them and say you guys should have Tim Dylan on. | |
| I don't know. | |
| Don't annoy them. | |
| Be respectful. | |
| But I don't know. | |
| I don't know. | |
| We're still going. | |
| We're still going strong here with no reach out from your mom's house network. | |
| They may have no interest in me. | |
| And that's okay. | |
| That's fine. | |
| I'm not complaining. | |
| It just is what it is because people message me and they're like, why have you gone on your mom's house? | |
| It's like, we had an incident. | |
| I missed Dr. Drew. | |
| I lied about it. | |
| There was a photo of me on the beach on Instagram. | |
| They all thought it was funny. | |
| Supposedly. | |
| Ha ha ha. | |
| That's what I was told. | |
| We don't know. | |
| I scheduled to do Dr. Drew again. | |
| I said, listen, guys, I'm flying in that day. | |
| I don't want to miss the fucking thing again. | |
| So can we reschedule it for another time? | |
| They were like, okay. | |
| Haven't heard from them since, you know? | |
| So, you know, whatever. | |
| God love them. | |
| God bless them. | |
| Maybe I'll do that in the future. | |
| But people that are emailing, you know, that are fucking messaging me, that's where we're at. | |
| We're here with radio silence from YMH, radio silence from your mom's house network, radio silence from Dr. Drew. | |
| Maybe they're mad at me that I said that Drew would tell people heroin was good for them if there was enough money in it, which we know is true. | |
| And that's very funny because it's accurate. | |
| If there was a heroin lobby that took, that gave Dr. Drew money to go out and tell you that you should, the best thing for your kids to do is shoot them up with dope before you took them to school, he would absolutely sit there and do it. | |
| That's just a reality, okay? | |
| I don't even necessarily blame him for that. | |
| It is what the fuck it is. | |
| Brendan Schaub coming up. | |
| Okay, we're good. | |
| Brendan Schaub coming up. | |
| It's the Tim Dylan Show, everybody, live from Dealy Plaza, Texas, with historian Brendan Schaub. | |
| You've done a lot of work. | |
| A lot of work. | |
| With the Kenny assassination. | |
| Especially here in Dallas. | |
| A lot of work. | |
| A lot of work. | |
| You're down here doing the Addison improv. | |
| Yes, sir. | |
| I'm down here doing hyenas in Fort Worth. | |
| Rogan's doing the American Airlines Center. | |
| Look at us. | |
| You know, it's just a lot of West Coast people in Dallas. | |
| The trifecta. | |
| The trifecta in Texas. | |
| Yeah, it's good. | |
| Are you so you're staying in a hotel that's like literally walking distance from where Kennedy was whacked? | |
| I did on purpose. | |
| Yeah, did you? | |
| This is my fourth time coming to Addison. | |
| I take the tour every year. | |
| Every year you do the JFK tour? | |
| Every year we do the government JFK tour. | |
| Government, I want that well-documented government tour where they spiel the bullshit to us. | |
| But I know all the facts. | |
| You know that it's called out to her. | |
| Didn't happen. | |
| That didn't happen. | |
| Everyone calm down. | |
| That didn't happen. | |
| That did not happen. | |
| So you go in knowing. | |
| I know. | |
| I call it bullshit. | |
| Wrong. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Shot was over here. | |
| There's actually five shots. | |
| They say two. | |
| There's five. | |
| Three missed, one hit in the throat, one hit in the back. | |
| Who's on this tour? | |
| Just local tourists. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Who don't know shit? | |
| So I fill them in. | |
| This is what's weird. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So my brother, Derek, my feature, and then Asan, my opener, MC, when we walk around, I'm like explaining stuff I know. | |
| But there's the homeless community around there, all black guys for a reason. | |
| Yeah. | |
| They come up and they're like, oh, you don't know shit. | |
| And it's like their gig here in Dallas. | |
| Oh, so they're giving another tour. | |
| It's a side tour of what really happened to like a meth homeless guy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's actually pretty interesting. | |
| Perspective. | |
| I bet it's more educational than the government shill tour. | |
| Correct. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know how in Venice or like 3rd Street, the bums are like out there, like maybe juggling. | |
| Maybe it's the one-man band. | |
| Maybe they're eating glass. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's their kind of third street. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Venice is an interesting thing to me because I love Muscle Beach. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because it's a bunch of gay guys who've cured themselves of AIDS by lifting weights. | |
| You're right. | |
| I mean, it's just dudes that should have died in 93. | |
| Look at Arnold. | |
| Yeah, and they just somehow have pumped themselves free of AIDS. | |
| That's impressive. | |
| Just, I mean, it's wild. | |
| Another reason to work out. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Have you ever gone down there? | |
| I grew up in Venice. | |
| You grew up in Venice. | |
| Yeah, in the summers. | |
| My dad would, my uncle lived there. | |
| So we would, me and my brother go out there every summer. | |
| So we'd work out Gold's Jam. | |
| So you were an athlete from the beginning. | |
| Yes and no. | |
| I mean, yeah, I mean, I grew up playing sports, but in Venice, it was like we go then the summers, me and my brother just hang on the boardwalk. | |
| My dad would give us like our allowance for the week, and we'd buy fake Rolexes and we'd collect them. | |
| Then we'd go back home and we'd sell them to the kids for way more expensive prices. | |
| So you were a business guy. | |
| It was a hustle. | |
| You were smart from the beginning. | |
| Buy the fake Rolexes on the Venice boardwalk. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sell them to your friends. | |
| How old? | |
| Eight, nine, ten. | |
| Eight or nine-year-olds buying fake Rolexes. | |
| Hell yeah. | |
| Where was this going on? | |
| Where is Aurora? | |
| You ever been there? | |
| Aurora, Colorado? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Where they had the shooting. | |
| All the shooting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And Dan Soder is from there. | |
| Yeah, me and Dan are from the same hometown. | |
| And you guys played football against each other? | |
| Rival high schools. | |
| Rival high schools. | |
| You guys are better. | |
| Of course. | |
| Okay, clearly. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Did you know him at all or not really? | |
| No, not really. | |
| I didn't know him till I started in the comedy scene. | |
| Then I was like, what good comics are at Denver? | |
| And there's TJ Miller, who's from Denver. | |
| And then obviously Dan Soder are the big ones. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Roseanne. | |
| Is Roseanne from there? | |
| Sinbad. | |
| Okay. | |
| Interesting. | |
| That's about it. | |
| That's about it. | |
| It's a great Denver Comedy Works. | |
| A lot of people say it's the best club in the country. | |
| Have you been there? | |
| I have, yeah. | |
| What do you mean? | |
| Opened for Soder. | |
| Amazing. | |
| Denver, for whatever reason, I don't know if it's the altitude or if it's a lack of oxygen or it's just the audiences are great. | |
| They think everything's funny. | |
| They think everything's funny. | |
| You feel like Chappelle when you're out on the stage. | |
| It's almost too good. | |
| It's almost like the Ice House. | |
| Have you done Ice House? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Where it's like, I'm not this funny person. | |
| Please don't laugh. | |
| Then you go somewhere else. | |
| You go to a real club and eat shit. | |
| Right. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| That makes more sense. | |
| That's how it works. | |
| So as somebody who's an athlete, because I was a swimmer when I was younger, and I will still beat you. | |
| How competitive. | |
| I was the third fastest butterfly on Long Island. | |
| I'll destroy you. | |
| How old? | |
| How old? | |
| Joe Rogan. | |
| Hold on. | |
| How old? | |
| Nine, nine, Brendan. | |
| Okay. | |
| Eight or nine. | |
| All right. | |
| Okay. | |
| So the contributions of children to sports don't matter? | |
| Really? | |
| No one gives a fuck. | |
| Really? | |
| What do you mean no one gives a fuck about you? | |
| A lot of people give a fucking movie economy, by the way. | |
| Dude, nobody gives a fuck. | |
| Then why is everyone getting mad when they're injected and they boys become girls and girls become boys? | |
| It's a big deal. | |
| It is a big deal. | |
| You were the butterfly. | |
| I was the third fastest butterfly on Long Island. | |
| There was a kid who was better than me. | |
| He had a French name. | |
| You know that guy that you can't catch? | |
| He's always just better. | |
| A Pierre LeCronk or something. | |
| Something like that. | |
| My mother knows his name and he always destroyed me. | |
| You know what really killed me about this kid? | |
| He never even saw me in his competition. | |
| He always just kind of like looked at me and was like, and he was never friendly and whatever. | |
| But I was third and I think I got to second once, but I never beat him. | |
| I wonder what the kid is doing now. | |
| I don't know. | |
| But it was the Long Beach Tiger Shark swim team. | |
| We're one of the top swim teams in the country. | |
| My mom was a coach. | |
| So the idea of like, people see people like me and you, they're like, oh, what do they have in common? | |
| Athletics, number one. | |
| Knew it. | |
| Because I was doing athletic things. | |
| As a kid. | |
| I was a tap dancer. | |
| Have you ever tap danced? | |
| No, tough. | |
| Tap dance is a skill. | |
| Agree. | |
| It's athletic. | |
| It's super athletic. | |
| It's athletic. | |
| It's football. | |
| The river dance? | |
| That's crazy. | |
| What's up? | |
| That's insane. | |
| I can't do that. | |
| I couldn't do this. | |
| Hold on. | |
| As a kid, though, childhood actor. | |
| Childhood actor. | |
| Swimmer. | |
| Swimmer. | |
| Tap dancing. | |
| Well, yeah, because they would think that as a kid actor, they were like, you got to learn how to tap dance. | |
| Kind of demeaning. | |
| They feel the way about black people, too. | |
| They're like, you should just tap dance. | |
| Just dance. | |
| You might just be put in something. | |
| You just got to learn how to dance. | |
| Dance and play basketball. | |
| You figure it out. | |
| You can't play basketball. | |
| Something's going to happen. | |
| But I remember, and I say that because I remember the best feeling of my life, which I haven't been able to get back to, but it's only been 30 years. | |
| The best feeling of my life, not quite 30, was being thrown in a pool Saturday morning that was freezing, swimming for two hours, and then getting out of the pool. | |
| See, this is my parents' room. | |
| You know, I would go have like McDonald's breakfast. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because it was like. | |
| I know. | |
| But that was, we grew up like that. | |
| But Michael Phelps eats McDonald's. | |
| He eats garbage. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Greatest swimmer of all time. | |
| That was the best feeling that I ever had was working out and being healthy. | |
| Now, obviously, I was nine. | |
| Like achieving something, though? | |
| Well, it was achieving something. | |
| It was discipline. | |
| It was a level. | |
| If it was, I knew no matter what happened, my parents were going to scoop me out of bed and throw me in a pool four times a week. | |
| I didn't have a choice. | |
| Four times a week. | |
| But you have that now, but not as far as athleticism or swimming. | |
| You have that now with stand-up and podcasting. | |
| How many sets you do a week? | |
| A lot. | |
| I mean, I do it. | |
| Well, I mean, let's... | |
| There's a lot. | |
| A lot. | |
| I do as many as you can in L.A. | |
| It's not as much as New York, but I do a lot. | |
| And then I podcast a lot and I make content. | |
| It's a lot of stuff going on. | |
| So now your energy's into that, which is the discipline for that. | |
| To me, it would be harder than most athletics is athletics, whether it's football, MMA, swimming, like there's a blueprint on what you need to do. | |
| For this, there's not. | |
| And also, no one's calling me, hey, Tim, make sure you do your sets tonight. | |
| No, but your discipline now is in a completely different lane. | |
| What you said made a lot of sense once you said it's kind of like a chess game where kind of like you have to look at all the pieces and decide like what's going to be. | |
| You know, you have to decide what you're going to do. | |
| You have to make a decision. | |
| I think maybe with athletics, like you said, you're just running an algorithm. | |
| Yeah, it's an algorithm that guys who were way more successful before, you can follow that. | |
| With stand-up, there's no algorithm. | |
| It's this game we play. | |
| There's broad strokes of what you should do. | |
| People have, okay, get up, you know, but it's like, how much are you writing? | |
| How much are you riding? | |
| How are you writing? | |
| Take a good joke, make it a great joke. | |
| How do you respond after it doesn't go well? | |
| Right. | |
| Your road shows. | |
| It's like marketing yourself. | |
| Now that the whole marketing, the social media aspect, the podcast, everyone's trying to do that. | |
| You stand up, a lot of your friends are also people that are athletic. | |
| Really only Joe. | |
| I mean, I was going to say Tony's not athletic. | |
| I mean, like, are you friends with a lot of comics that are somewhat athletic? | |
| Not really. | |
| I mean, Talon's athletic, especially. | |
| Absolutely. | |
| But, like, we don't do anything. | |
| The only people with athletic backgrounds would be Rogan with his taekwondo, Challenge athletics. | |
| When you get into comedy, do you look around at these people and you're like, these people are animals? | |
| What do you mean? | |
| You look around at comics and sometimes how crazy they are or the lack of discipline. | |
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| No, because all my friends are disciplined as fuck. | |
| That's the thing. | |
| It's like, like, and Rogan says all the time, and I don't take offense to it, but it doesn't make sense to me when people go, oh, he's bringing an athlete's work ethic over to comedy. | |
| It's like, no, it's just a work ethic. | |
| It's just a work ethic. | |
| He has an insane work ethic. | |
| Yeah, they were. | |
| He works very well. | |
| Rogan has insane work ethic. | |
| Bro, Burr, you. | |
| Right, we work. | |
| All my, like, Christ, like all my guys, my friends work their ass off. | |
| So it's like, I view it different as like animals. | |
| No, like, these guys, they're, they're workhorses, man. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What do you think when you look at like what, when you look at great fighters, because you were in the UFC for how long? | |
| Six years. | |
| Six years. | |
| Are you, you're still friendly with people in that? | |
| Yeah, I mean, my only really association with it is I do the show on Showtime called The Food Truck Diaries. | |
| Right. | |
| So we book the fighters, but my show on there now, it's just really, you know, I talk about fighting and fighting culture, but it's more a lifestyle show. | |
| I don't have guests on there anymore. | |
| I save it for Food Truck. | |
| But outside that one fight show that I do, I follow the sport, but. | |
| Did you watch Logan Paul KSI? | |
| I did. | |
| Logan Paul's a buddy. | |
| Yeah, he's a good dude. | |
| I did his podcast. | |
| He's like a good... | |
| I think people, it's like one of those other things where people, for whatever reason, don't like him, but it's why. | |
| Why? | |
| Because he's insanely successful. | |
| Yeah, I do. | |
| I know, but he does this and I get it. | |
| That's a bit of a character form. | |
| It's like the same way people hate Justin Bieber. | |
| But why? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Who gives a fuck? | |
| Right. | |
| Well, there's a lot of animosity. | |
| You have it too. | |
| People don't like you. | |
| Do you think that's because you got people feel like you're a successful comedy? | |
| And because you come from this other successful thing, they don't feel like you've paid the right kind of dues. | |
| Do you think it's that? | |
| Or do you think people are just like... | |
| I mean, that it depends. | |
| Like, if you're... | |
| Yeah, I don't know. | |
| I think, but anyone. | |
| Because you're one of the nicest people that I've ever met. | |
| Most, like, a lot of comedians are not asholes. | |
| I mean, really. | |
| I mean, so the reality is, and then I'll see like some of the people, like some of the hate you get, and I'm like, I don't get it. | |
| I guess it's because people are either jealous or people just have a. | |
| There's this weird thing with comedy where, like people are like this person deserves success and this one doesn't, but then they're really. | |
| But the market tells you right, there's a market that it tells you right, you know that lets you know what your value is right. | |
| So the market decides what your value is, not these group of haters on the internet. | |
| Those guys, those people don't matter, right? | |
| So when it comes to me and hate, it's like I don't see any of it. | |
| I literally I don't read any comments. | |
| I do nothing, right? | |
| So uh, I don't see it. | |
| But if people who I look up to with his comics other successful comics aren't upset, is what? | |
| What i'm doing? | |
| Nobody is, no one no no no, anyone who's in the business is at all. | |
| No, it's only people who are dissatisfied with their own careers and their own lives who are upset there, because maybe they think i'm taking spots from them or i'm selling out Addison, and they're not. | |
| They got to dislike somebody. | |
| They have to, somebody has to. | |
| But the other thing is too, is it's? | |
| It's just like it's just their own insecurities, and also it's weird for them because you know they might associate me as, who knows that maybe they knew me when I was playing football so they associated me as a football player. | |
| Then when I went from football to fighting, they associated me as a football player doing fighting, but then they knew me from fighting. | |
| It's weird for them to see me go from that to stand-up like well, that that's not. | |
| There's also this idea that we're, whatever you go into, you kind of figure it out, and there are people that spend their entire lives not figuring things out. | |
| You're kind of figuring it out, you are figuring it out, and maybe there's just an animosity that comes from that. | |
| Like, I get it, i'm not mad at them right, you know, I don't see it. | |
| So right, I hear about it and then it's like, As long as you know, if I show up tonight and there's no one there, then I'm dead. | |
| People also don't understand jokes, like they don't understand kidding around. | |
| Like, there's somebody came on the internet and they were like, Oh, Tim Dylan hates Brendan Shop. | |
| Because I tease Lewis Gomez all the time. | |
| I said, I'm now a follower of you and not him because you have an Aston Martin. | |
| And it's literally the funniest thing in the world. | |
| It's hilarious. | |
| And then I go and I go because Lewis is like, You should have never tried keto. | |
| You're not an athlete. | |
| Shabb's, don't take Shabb's advice. | |
| You have to take my advice because I used to be fat, and Shab was never fat. | |
| So, that's fair. | |
| That is big, right? | |
| I like Lewis. | |
| I don't have any quantities. | |
| No, of course. | |
| But then I say, I follow Shaub's advice. | |
| He's the greatest comedian that's ever lived. | |
| And no, like, people online are like, ha ha, see, Tim Dylan hates Brendan Shop. | |
| I'm like, no, it's a joke, you idiot. | |
| Saying that any one of us are the greatest comedian that ever lived is ridiculous. | |
| That includes anybody right now doing arena. | |
| Like 100%. | |
| 100%. | |
| It's outlandish. | |
| But people are like, yeah, it's a war. | |
| It's a fight. | |
| And it's like, these people are heavily invested in that idea. | |
| That's what they want. | |
| But they need that. | |
| Yeah, it's like a thing they need. | |
| They like drama. | |
| And like, yeah. | |
| Delia hit me up the other day. | |
| I was like, Katie, have you heard this? | |
| Have you heard that? | |
| Apparently, you and I hate each other? | |
| Yeah, everybody hates everybody. | |
| And Chris was over at my house. | |
| Right. | |
| He's crazy. | |
| I'm like, I don't see any of it. | |
| Right. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It's what, but people just kind of invent these things. | |
| But I think a lot of resentment for some of these people are right. | |
| Like I came into the game and I came in in a different route where Brian Callen's my best friend. | |
| We do a show together. | |
| He's a good comedian. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Then me and him go on the road together doing live fighting the kids. | |
| So that would those were my open mics. | |
| These huge mass shows. | |
| Well, I love about your special. | |
| My favorite part of your special is the beginning of your special where you're in a mansion and you're like, the life of a comedian is just wild. | |
| You know, he's like, this is the way us comics live. | |
| He's got his own basketball court. | |
| He's like, this is just us. | |
| And then he's also got like a beautiful kid in a life. | |
| I'm like, no, this is not at all anything that comedians are involved in at all. | |
| You're like, it's just life of a comedian, you know, here in my granite kitchen in my huge house. | |
| So people just get heated. | |
| They get angry. | |
| But here's the thing. | |
| Yeah. | |
| A lot of people that they get angry because maybe they're like, oh, he, the only reason he sells, this is my favorite when they go, the only reason he sells tickets because he was in the UFC. | |
| Right. | |
| No, no, no, no. | |
| Have any UFC fighter try and sell tickets at Addison Improv doing sanity. | |
| Yeah. | |
| It doesn't work like that. | |
| No, people like or they go or they go, the only reason he gets any tickets because of Joe Rogan. | |
| Okay, fair. | |
| How many people has Joe Rogan had on his show or co-signed? | |
| Dead or not, Sony. | |
| It doesn't work that way. | |
| This is my fourth time here. | |
| So you know what I'm saying? | |
| Absolutely. | |
| So that kind of story that they're painting right now. | |
| Well, the only reason, because he said, well, that works once. | |
| You might go to a city and you could sell 500 tickets. | |
| People are like, dude, he was awful. | |
| Right. | |
| No, I sell out more tickets everywhere I go. | |
| Everywhere I go. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, no, it's people like what you do. | |
| They like the podcast. | |
| You know, the podcast gets huge numbers. | |
| I think that like I also do tons of sets in LA. | |
| Of course. | |
| Yeah, What have you now you have a son? | |
| Your son is three or four years old. | |
| Three and a half. | |
| You have a real life. | |
| That's why you're not reading YouTube comments. | |
| You have real life to be considered. | |
| Your son goes to like a fancy school. | |
| Or do you meet celebrity parents? | |
| Yes. | |
| Is that weird? | |
| No. | |
| Do they know who you are? | |
| Yeah, like we know who each other are. | |
| Like I won't say who it is. | |
| I get in trouble if I say who's at school, but it's a guy who has played Batman. | |
| Love him. | |
| And my girl goes, why'd they let this guy in there? | |
| He's the fucking bum. | |
| I go, what'd you say? | |
| She goes, why would they let this guy in there? | |
| I go, that's the greatest living actor alive right now. | |
| She goes, I went, that's Batman, bitch. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Because that's Batman. | |
| That's Batman famous. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And then you hit her. | |
| But you know, what has to happen? | |
| What? | |
| She's Mexican. | |
| Do you, when you're raising a kid and he's going to have a lot of money, it's going to be. | |
| Well, no, no. | |
| Papa's going to have a lot. | |
| You have a lot of money. | |
| He doesn't have a lot of money. | |
| What do you? | |
| There's no money. | |
| What do you do when you're raising a kid in a situation where he's like, how do you prevent that person from becoming an LA monster? | |
| I know. | |
| The type of kids that we see on scooters, on Melrose, that have YouTube channels that can buy and sell me, maybe you too. | |
| Probably. | |
| How do you stop a kid like that? | |
| You got to get him motivated. | |
| Becoming a SoundCloud rapper. | |
| I know. | |
| I know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Little Uzi Vert or some shit. | |
| One of them. | |
| Little, whatever it is. | |
| I don't want to say any of them because then they're all died. | |
| I got in trouble the other week because I said one of them and it was a dead one. | |
| I'm sorry. | |
| It was Lil Bo Peep or whatever. | |
| I respect them all. | |
| I respect them. | |
| I respect the game. | |
| I respect the game. | |
| Zan follows me on Twitter. | |
| Little Zan follows me on Twitter. | |
| Shout out to Lil Zan Zan. | |
| Right. | |
| I think you got to make sure he's interested in, he has to have some sort of passion. | |
| Right. | |
| You can't have just like a weird kid who's just floating and doing drugs. | |
| Yeah, just driving dad's ass to Martin around. | |
| Yeah, he can't have that. | |
| You can't have that. | |
| You can't have that. | |
| So hopefully he gets motivated. | |
| I don't care what sport he wants to play or he wants to be an actor or whatever, but he has to have some goal. | |
| And that's going to keep him, I hope, on path. | |
| He's got, yeah. | |
| Is being a dad great or is it anxiety producing? | |
| Both. | |
| Right. | |
| Because you're like scared of the world. | |
| Like you're just like, oh my God, man. | |
| Right. | |
| You got to make sure that the way I think about it, when you have babysitters, you have things like that. | |
| How do you... | |
| I mean, we got a new nanny a year ago when we moved. | |
| I spied on her for four weeks. | |
| Okay. | |
| So that's exactly what I'm talking about. | |
| You go to the park. | |
| I was already at the park. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Interesting. | |
| So you're just keeping an eye on her and making sure that she's good. | |
| She's legit. | |
| She's legit. | |
| If cameras all the house, I'd watch them. | |
| Do you lay in bed at night and then watch back what she did with him? | |
| Crazy. | |
| So do you want to have more? | |
| I have another one coming not this Tuesday, but next Tuesday. | |
| Wild. | |
| I know another boy. | |
| One more. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Are you going to just keep going? | |
| I'm down. | |
| My girl's Mexican. | |
| Oh, yeah, she'll keep going. | |
| She'll throw them out. | |
| She'll just litter the whole house with them. | |
| Good for her. | |
| So this is exciting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you have a name or no? | |
| Yeah, but she doesn't want to announce it. | |
| Okay. | |
| I don't care, but is it a Mexican name? | |
| No. | |
| Okay. | |
| It'd be cool if it was. | |
| I was kind of getting a little excited. | |
| I thought it was going to be something cool like that. | |
| Like, what do you think? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Like. | |
| Rethinking. | |
| Like Miguel. | |
| What was that Mexican Disney movie, Coco? | |
| Coco? | |
| Yeah, like something like that, like Coco Schab. | |
| Ooh, that's fun. | |
| That'd be his nickname, though. | |
| We just call him Little Coco. | |
| You know, what are you? | |
| What is your nationality? | |
| What do you think? | |
| Schaub sounds Jewish, but only because it sounds like an investment bank, Charles Schwab. | |
| Charles. | |
| No, Charles Schwab. | |
| Charles Schwab is different, and that's like WASPI, I guess. | |
| Schaub, I don't know. | |
| Schaub sounds German. | |
| Schaub is German. | |
| German. | |
| It's a German. | |
| So you're German. | |
| Also, Hitler's right man for a long time was a Schaub. | |
| Really? | |
| Any relation? | |
| I don't think so. | |
| Okay. | |
| I'd have to check the 21 and me. | |
| You haven't looked. | |
| How about not? | |
| You probably shouldn't. | |
| Probably not. | |
| So is it all German? | |
| German, Italian, and then my mom was born and raised in England. | |
| So English. | |
| You're all over the place. | |
| All over, man. | |
| And you just have one brother? | |
| Yep, just this one here. | |
| Are you still tight with both parents? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, they live in Denver, so it's tight as you can be living somewhere else. | |
| Right. | |
| But they come out and see the kiddos. | |
| Everything like that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Do you feel, do you feel like you'll ever stand-ups changing so much? | |
| It's, it's, do you ever get worried that we're all in a bubble and that it's all going to come crashing down and we're all going to have to get you know never we'll always be the ones where like Like there's nothing you can do. | |
| If you're on a network show or something like that, you should be worried about that. | |
| If you're in TV, you should be worried. | |
| Do you ever think to yourself, what else you could do? | |
| You're like a personality. | |
| You could do a lot of different things. | |
| Do you ever? | |
| No, I don't need to because between the podcast that I own and then stand-up, it's like, you can't really take that. | |
| And you do crazy merch stuff, too. | |
| We do merch. | |
| Would you ever get that? | |
| That's part of like the business. | |
| Would you ever get into the fashion industry or something like that? | |
| I'd be down. | |
| I could see you having like seven clothing companies. | |
| Yeah, I'd be down for that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You're a smart guy. | |
| You're always thinking about like, what can I do? | |
| Yeah. | |
| And there's a lot of. | |
| It's like, what can I do, but that I'm into? | |
| That you're into that's fun and that you can. | |
| Do you ever look around at comics and you go, man, that's a talented person, but they just fucking don't. | |
| All the time. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And here's the thing. | |
| And I had this conversation with a mutual friend of ours who's a comic. | |
| And I went, I don't, why is he not, he should be fucking Jerry Seinfeld. | |
| And then we just, he's just on this loop. | |
| Like, it's never, it's never going to work. | |
| Right. | |
| He's been doing the same thing. | |
| Like, this is just, there's no hope. | |
| I'm like, no, I can help him. | |
| Like, tell him you can't help this guy. | |
| What do you think it is? | |
| A bit of self-sabotage, bit of just like not a risk taker, doesn't want to put in the work, worried about losing, you know, maybe an hour, doesn't want to shoot a special. | |
| Do you think that have you been, because I think New York sometimes, for whatever reason, can people get in their heads about purity, being a purist. | |
| And there's only one way to do it, and I'm going to do it that way. | |
| And sometimes, not all of them, there's a lot of, there's amazing people in New York. | |
| But like, what I like about L.A. is that there's not really a line between a guy like me or a Logan Paul or somebody. | |
| You know what I mean? | |
| You don't think so? | |
| Like in LA, I feel like, you know, I... | |
| What do you mean by line? | |
| Like, there's a line that he lives in a mansion that I don't, and then I don't. | |
| But the reality is like, he's a guy with an audience. | |
| I don't feel, I feel great going on his show. | |
| I feel great going on a YouTuber's show or social media. | |
| Like in New York, there's such this. | |
| The line would be drawn when there's a live performance, when it takes time to do stand-up the line. | |
| Sure, because he's not a stand-up. | |
| But in New York, a lot of people are just not enlarging their audiences because it's like a circle jerk. | |
| It's almost an old school mentality. | |
| Old school mentality. | |
| And I'm like, no, you got to get out there and collaborate with people that are not stand-up comedy. | |
| But I also, and tell me if I'm wrong, and I think it's opened up more. | |
| I mean, Andrew Schultz were talking about this. | |
| Yeah, Schultz has led the way. | |
| Yeah, where in New York, you guys are very like, like what you, it's your bone and you guys, you better fucking fight me for it. | |
| But in L.A., it's like, especially in the group I run it, it's more of helping each other. | |
| Well, there's a lot more money in L.A. | |
| So when there's a lot more money, there's scarcity in New York. | |
| So people are fighting with each other more. | |
| But that doesn't make sense. | |
| More money in what way? | |
| You guys are way ahead with podcasting. | |
| You guys made a lot more money. | |
| Your shows are a lot bigger. | |
| But that's not because we're in L.A. | |
| No, it's because you could do it everywhere. | |
| I would argue that some of that was the necessity of innovation, being in L.A., not having as many spots, New York City being so focused on stand-up. | |
| There was a lot of spots. | |
| People just working and being so busy. | |
| I think LA, there's more downtime if people say, well, what else can we do? | |
| How else? | |
| You know, Rogan, you know, starting that whole thing, you know, being, you know, not being at the comedy store as much because of the Holman Sia thing. | |
| I think like that innovation, you guys are just way ahead. | |
| And there's just a lot more money. | |
| And also LA is Hollywood and movies and TV and there's a million other things. | |
| And New York does not as many of those things. | |
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| So New York, you have status and everybody's kind of like, who's high on the totem pole of who's a real comic and who does, you know, who's working in a seller every night and who's doing this and who's doing that. | |
| There's nothing wrong with that, but what I think starts to happen to people is they lose sight that there's a larger world out there and they got to reach people. | |
| Yeah, and but and I think it shows too, not that, you know, the argument on New York Comics Brand and LA comics, but some of the New York comics who will come over, like you, Mark Norman, Schultz, it's like, Jesus Christ. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Monsters. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I didn't know which way that was going. | |
| You're like, Jesus Christ, he's got horrible. | |
| This is a rough hand. | |
| They're terrible to be with. | |
| No, you guys are fucking fantastic. | |
| You get a lot of levels of skill. | |
| Because you guys are doing so much comedy. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And it's just like, holy fuck. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, I think that's, I appreciate that, but I also think, man, that there's a lot of beasts in LA too. | |
| It's like different. | |
| Oh, there's a lot of beasts. | |
| There's just a lot of beasts. | |
| There's people that just do it differently. | |
| You know, there's people that, at your age now, do you see, do you look at, are you glad that you waited to get into comedy? | |
| Because are you like. | |
| I don't think I'll have a perspective. | |
| Yeah. | |
| If I would start younger, granted, I wish I had the stage time when I was younger, but it's like, I don't know what perspective I'd have. | |
| Right. | |
| Like now I've gone through some shit, ups and downs, and like it gives me more perspective on life. | |
| Do you have a life where you feel like there's a lot of drama? | |
| There's no drama. | |
| Like we, are you somebody who's con, like, how does... | |
| My drama comes from outside of the house. | |
| I don't have drama inside my house. | |
| My kid, my girl, there's no drama. | |
| My drama comes from my business partners who are other comics. | |
| Right, okay. | |
| And then there are, and what is it just comics are we're all crazy in our own way. | |
| Everybody wants to do it their way. | |
| Yes. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And you would calendar super tight, but you guys, like every now and then, I guess you mean count? | |
| It's very rare. | |
| Me and Cal don't don't bump heads. | |
| Okay. | |
| No. | |
| Do you and Theo bump heads ever? | |
| Not really bump heads. | |
| Not really bump heads. | |
| No, me and Theo. | |
| You're talking about two different kind of personalities where I grew up on team sports and Theo, and I grew up, like to me, it's all about a team aspect and Theo's learning that. | |
| Right. | |
| If that makes sense. | |
| He's more like me, a championship swimmer, because there's nobody on the starting block except it's all on you. | |
| You understand? | |
| It's all on me. | |
| Like you're on you. | |
| You're in a football team hiding with a bunch of other people. | |
| Fair. | |
| Whereas I'm on the block getting ready to my family's good name, everything right there. | |
| Just on your shoulders. | |
| Did you ever on my shoulder? | |
| Yeah. | |
| Did you ever, did you ever swim? | |
| Were you ever a swimmer? | |
| I mean, I swam as a kid, but not competitively because I was good at other things. | |
| Is Theo any type of athlete? | |
| No. | |
| No. | |
| Nothing. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Nothing. | |
| Does he work out ever? | |
| Yeah. | |
| He's starting to work out now because it makes him feel better. | |
| Right. | |
| What is the workout? | |
| What is the move? | |
| Is it weights, what is everything, man? | |
| Yeah, everything. | |
| You have to do it all. | |
| You have to do it all. | |
| I mean, you don't have to. | |
| No, but you should. | |
| But isn't swimming good? | |
| Let's say I just started swimming. | |
| Fuck yeah, do it. | |
| What if I just started swimming? | |
| My grandma, she turns 96. | |
| She swam every day since she was 90. | |
| See, that's the move. | |
| That's the move. | |
| She's 300 pounds. | |
| Really? | |
| But that's also the move. | |
| I think those things are both the move. | |
| I think you just swim every day and be 300. | |
| I mean, it's like that Gaffigan bit. | |
| Have you ever seen the Gaffigan bit about whales? | |
| He's like, everyone says swimming's the best exercise. | |
| Gaffing's like, what about whales? | |
| He's like, do you think whales thinks like that? | |
| She would swim. | |
| It's like, for whatever reason, it ain't working, bitch. | |
| It just doesn't work. | |
| Because she's swimming and she's eating king-size Snicker bars at night. | |
| Really? | |
| God, damn. | |
| Is she in Colorado just living? | |
| Fuck yeah, she's out there living. | |
| Just throwing her birthday party this weekend. | |
| That's awesome. | |
| But that's the thing. | |
| I mean, listen, you don't want to be big, but this is what happens sometimes. | |
| It's very hard. | |
| The problem is, is like you for what we do. | |
| You don't need to be in some phenomenal shape. | |
| Really? | |
| We don't need to be Joe Rogan. | |
| No. | |
| You don't. | |
| No. | |
| Like, he's insane that he's insane. | |
| But he's an inhuman level of discipline that we all aspire to and respect. | |
| But it's very hard to then apply that to your life. | |
| Sometimes I don't want to work out for two hours a day anymore. | |
| Yeah, and then sometimes Joe will just be like, just never eat sugar. | |
| And I'm like, right. | |
| Thank you. | |
| He's like, you're good, right? | |
| No more sugar. | |
| He's like, just no sugar, no carbs ever for the rest of your life. | |
| And I'm like, okay. | |
| You know, comedy stories all. | |
| So you're not feeling good? | |
| So no more sugar, no more alcohol. | |
| And I went, okay, he's like, so you're good on that? | |
| I'm like, we're good, man. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's an insane level of discipline. | |
| I mean, you know? | |
| Why is the country as fat as the country? | |
| I mean, the country is, it's a public health crisis. | |
| Where everybody's fat. | |
| Everybody's like four or five hundred pounds. | |
| I mean, not everybody, but you go to Middle America. | |
| These are big boys. | |
| You go to Disneyland. | |
| What happened? | |
| It's bad. | |
| What is it? | |
| And you're a guy from that world a little bit. | |
| How do you fix it? | |
| What world? | |
| For the world of somebody who works out and is, you know. | |
| Just people are lazy. | |
| So it's like, if you want food, it's like fast foods everywhere. | |
| So the government kind of fucks us and just society fucks us because if you want food, it's like the easiest thing to do is stop at Burger King, something. | |
| Like the healthy options are more expensive. | |
| They're harder to get. | |
| So it's like already tough to eat healthy. | |
| Then there's no healthy options. | |
| What do you think about this whole thing about fat shaming and that we're now celebrating fat people? | |
| I don't celebrate fat people. | |
| I can't like the models. | |
| I don't want my model fat. | |
| That's not what they do. | |
| Right. | |
| That's a good point. | |
| That's not what they do. | |
| Now, what about Lizzo? | |
| Because Lizzio is very, very popular. | |
| Lose weight. | |
| But lose weight. | |
| Yeah, lose a little. | |
| Everyone's like, oh, I like her attitude. | |
| Good for her. | |
| I'm like, not good for her. | |
| But she's unhealthy. | |
| But have you seen a new video where she comes out in the diabetic boots? | |
| I like that. | |
| The point is. | |
| She needs to get skinny. | |
| She's going to explode on stage and her entrails are going to hit the faces of a bunch of white women. | |
| The blood's on our hands because everyone's like, you go, fat girl. | |
| It's like, I'm the only one going, you don't go, fat girl. | |
| You need to just rein it in. | |
| I'm not saying get skinny. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Let's get healthy. | |
| Check your blood pressure, baby. | |
| She used to do something. | |
| She called out some postmate because a postmate was late with her food or something on Twitter. | |
| So that's a problem. | |
| That makes sense. | |
| It's a problem if you're calling out. | |
| If you're a multi-millionaire and you're calling a postmate on shit. | |
| She's an addict. | |
| It's an addictive. | |
| It's an addictive. | |
| Listen, I've been there. | |
| What's your food of choice? | |
| When the postmate shows up, I want to strangle them. | |
| Oh, me too. | |
| I go. | |
| Would you have other orders? | |
| You might be doing that. | |
| I get being angry at a postmate, but then to call them out on Twitter is like, oh, you're fucking not even in your right mind. | |
| My food of choice is... | |
| Like, what's your go-to? | |
| I don't know if I have a go-to, like, my pro, like, what's a problem? | |
| Like, for me, a real, real thing that I should not have is like, if I, maybe I find myself in Larchmont Village. | |
| Oh, there's a salt and straw. | |
| Oh, there's a scoop of ice cream. | |
| These are bad. | |
| But it has to be like really good ice cream for me to go there. | |
| Yeah, I don't eat garbage ice cream. | |
| No, me neither. | |
| Have you been to Jenny's? | |
| Yeah, it's fine. | |
| It's nice. | |
| It's fine. | |
| Salt and straw is the numero uno. | |
| Salt and straw is better. | |
| The salted, malted, chocolate, cookie dough or whatever. | |
| My favorite ice cream. | |
| And I get fudge on top. | |
| I mean, this is, and then I walk around Hancock Park. | |
| My mouth is watering, by the way. | |
| But so like my ice cream's always been a bad thing. | |
| I actually don't eat like bit. | |
| Like I don't eat domino. | |
| I don't eat garbage food. | |
| But when I go out, I eat. | |
| Like a nice like meatball. | |
| No, I eat all that. | |
| I'll be in New York. | |
| I'll have to take a look at the film. | |
| Let's say like you get done tonight at Hyenas. | |
| Like after we, so after I'm done with you, before instead of getting stuck in traffic on the way back to Fort Worth, we might go to a steakhouse. | |
| And that's not bad. | |
| No, you can eat good there. | |
| Sure. | |
| But maybe the waiter says something about like lobster bisque or something. | |
| Gotta have it. | |
| Maybe I get a bowl of lobster bag. | |
| See, I grew up. | |
| I grew up going to four-star restaurants. | |
| I grew up eating you grew up rich. | |
| Not rich, no, not rich. | |
| My uncle was in the restaurant business. | |
| And he had a lot of great restaurants in New York. | |
| So we were just the only luxury I ever had as a kid was food. | |
| And that was the only thing that I learned at like high-end stuff. | |
| I could go to really nice restaurants. | |
| So I've internalized that. | |
| My palate is high. | |
| So my palate is high. | |
| When I was eight years old, I was eating a parfait of salmon and tuna tartare with creme froche and caviar. | |
| And I was like, is this hysteria caviar? | |
| Ugh. | |
| You know, I'm like, is this Iranian? | |
| So it's a problem. | |
| And then I got into drugs. | |
| 13 to 14 started with the cocaine. | |
| Hold on. | |
| 13, first. | |
| What are you, Macaulay call it? | |
| 13 or 14. | |
| I was trying to be, I failed. | |
| I know you were. | |
| I failed. | |
| 13, 14? | |
| 13? | |
| That's the first line of coke. | |
| That's some New York City. | |
| My friend's backyard, Long Island. | |
| Friend's backyard. | |
| And you got addicted to it. | |
| On the water, of course. | |
| And you got addicted to it? | |
| No, no. | |
| I got addicted when I was like 20 when I was selling subprime mortgages in Long Island. | |
| And I was like, this is a great thing. | |
| Was you unhappy? | |
| I wasn't thrilled, but I was also like, it's a great way to just be coked up and have a lot of energy and be on the phone and be talking to people and be like this world of sales guys that wore suits and, you know, drove Range Rover and everybody did cocaine wolf on Wall Street. | |
| I feel you yeah, that's what this is, the wolf, but it's not on Wall Street. | |
| No, nobody had really it's wolf on Long Island. | |
| Yeah, but it was like it was a big issue. | |
| I mean there was a lot of issues. | |
| Well, did you hit rock bottom? | |
| I mean I, but it wasn't the rock, like everyone's gonna yell at me when I say what rock bottom was. | |
| Well, rock bottom is different. | |
| Yes I, as Domerrera says, there's always wiggle room for rock bottom. | |
| There's always a base. | |
| You know you go lower, but my rock bottom was I bought a house for $600,000 that I could not afford, but I just bought this big house and then that was that started the events in motion for rock bottom. | |
| How so? | |
| Because you couldn't afford it and you went bankrupt. | |
| Well, I was just no. | |
| I mean I was just like drinking every night at a bar up the block from my house. | |
| I was doing drugs, the more it was 2009. | |
| The mortgage industry had collapsed. | |
| This industry I thought I was going to be in forever had literally just evaporated. | |
| I was fucked. | |
| I wasn't making any money. | |
| I owed a lot of money because I bought this crazy big house. | |
| I was 23 years old. | |
| You're by yourself, by myself, 23 years old, hanging out at a bar up a block from my house, and I could have flushed my whole life down the toilet then. | |
| And then I started doing stand-up comedy in 2010. | |
| So thank god that happened. | |
| Thank god that happened and turned everything around also. | |
| Thank god yeah, it's a good thing. | |
| Turned everything around. | |
| Yeah well, because it gave me an outlet for that passion. | |
| And then I stopped drinking and using drugs. | |
| And then I said well, this energy of being an addict, it's got to go somewhere. | |
| And then I went instead of 25 and went into stand-up love. | |
| It was about nine years ago, so that, so that's what led me into it. | |
| And then the, the food addiction, just stayed with you. | |
| The food addiction stayed with me. | |
| I mean, the food addiction is is, is. | |
| I think it's uh, related to the drugs. | |
| I also think that it comes from when I was a little kid, like the idea of like, oh, you eat nice things uh, makes you feel good, makes you feel good, it's a reward, it's how you reward yourself. | |
| So all of that stuff, I have a problem with it. | |
| I mean, I have a problem, Problem too. | |
| I don't know where it comes from. | |
| I don't know where it comes from. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Sure, I got to talk to someone about it. | |
| Well, I'm sure it just comes from, you know, I mean, we all have compulsions. | |
| Like, if you weren't a guy that like you, what you do, like people, like you have enough money, you could just stop tomorrow, but you want to keep going and doing and getting better and doing things. | |
| Correct. | |
| So that's a certain type of person. | |
| Yeah. | |
| That's a certain type of person. | |
| That's somebody who wants to, you know, push it to the limit. | |
| But it's also like I can't like who Rizzo was on Rogan late and he goes, I eat once a day. | |
| I'm like, motherfucker. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Or like Henry Rollins is like, I only drink, I wake up in the morning, I drink carrot juice, one cup of carrot juice. | |
| That's all I drink. | |
| Yeah, but didn't he have many, many years of not doing that? | |
| No, he was sober. | |
| Forever? | |
| Forever. | |
| Really? | |
| Never had to touch alcohol or drugs. | |
| Interesting. | |
| He's just crazy. | |
| Okay. | |
| He's just crazy. | |
| Yeah, exactly. | |
| People think he's still drugs. | |
| People think I'm still doing drugs. | |
| I mean, Joe on his show will say Tim Dylan, you know, he does these crazy sketches. | |
| He's a sober guy who seems like a drunk guy. | |
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| That's hilarious. | |
| I mean, I put on a wig, I yell and scream as Megan McCain. | |
| This is not something a sober person does. | |
| Or they do. | |
| Yeah, or they do. | |
| Or if you're fun and crazy. | |
| It's like Dahlia. | |
| Everyone thinks he's like drugged out. | |
| Never touched anything. | |
| Yeah, it's interesting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What about sex addiction? | |
| Do you have do you have that? | |
| I don't know. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Because I know people with that, and that ruins lives just like drug addiction. | |
| It could. | |
| But I have friends that cannot stay faithful. | |
| My thing is, is like I know guys who have that issue. | |
| Yeah. | |
| And it's so consuming, such a deep unravel. | |
| It unravels everything you're trying to do. | |
| But I want to get so successful as a stand-up comic that that's more important to me than anything. | |
| It's the transference of all these things into comedy where it's like, let comedy. | |
| Comedy's keeping me on a path. | |
| Yeah, comedy keeps us. | |
| I think comedy keeps a lot of us on a path. | |
| Correct. | |
| Where, you know, whether they're comics or athletes, before if things aren't going good for them and they get off a beaten path and you don't have anywhere to put your energy, that's where guys get in trouble. | |
| Right. | |
| What would you say? | |
| What would you say to what do you think about all this shit where people are like, we don't want our kids playing football anymore because what? | |
| I mean, how do you feel about this? | |
| Weigh in. | |
| Weigh in. | |
| Let's get it clip. | |
| Let's get a viral clip. | |
| What are we thinking? | |
| Listen, man, I think with football, it's... | |
| Here's Brendan Shao on the football controversy. | |
| What's right here right now? | |
| Do you watch football? | |
| On the Tim Dylan show. | |
| I have, yes. | |
| Because like last night, Miles Garrett took a quarterback's helmet off and hit him with it. | |
| Okay. | |
| And they spent him for the season. | |
| That's too much, I think. | |
| Way too much. | |
| Way too much. | |
| Take him out for a game. | |
| Yes. | |
| It's the culture we live in where everything's like this, this, you know, can't be afraid of the family. | |
| But in fairness to him, he should have hit a woman. | |
| Keep going. | |
| If you're going to do it, hit a woman. | |
| If you're going to do it, hit your partner and get back in next game. | |
| Or the UFC assign you. | |
| So the thing is, with football, it's just, it's like, if that's what they want to do, man, let them do it. | |
| If the kid loves football. | |
| The argument is that the kids are young and they don't know the repercussions of what they're doing. | |
| See, I don't think you should let kids. | |
| See, the brain. | |
| Your son is three. | |
| My son's three. | |
| He's not playing tackle football until he's, I don't know. | |
| I don't know, man. | |
| It's a tough thing. | |
| Now, as a parent, it's tough. | |
| He's not playing tackle football. | |
| Like, I started playing tackle, I think, when I was six, which is too early. | |
| So you say no tackle football for these kids. | |
| Until they get a little older, yeah. | |
| I don't want to see pee-wee tackle football. | |
| We don't need that. | |
| So until what is the appropriate thing? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I get middle school. | |
| Middle school, you think they can evaluate all of the different repercussions? | |
| No, I don't. | |
| I just think it's what you sign up for, man. | |
| And here's the other thing is, is brain trauma, like CT, is it a problem? | |
| Yes. | |
| The majority of players don't have anything. | |
| You just hear about the worst case scenario. | |
| The odds are you're going to be fine. | |
| Sure, you're going to have fucked up knees and ankles and necks and wrists, but that's what comes with the territory. | |
| Transgender children playing football. | |
| Sure. | |
| Like icebox from a business. | |
| Where are you on this? | |
| Fuck it. | |
| Let's just make the kids that we were just talking about. | |
| Now they're transgender. | |
| Transgender. | |
| Let them play, man. | |
| No, but this is a big deal for this is a huge problem now. | |
| You have women identifying as men. | |
| No. | |
| You have men identifying as women and then they beat up women. | |
| That's not when it comes to mixed martial arts. | |
| That's weird. | |
| That's strange. | |
| But that's the only part where it's strange. | |
| Really? | |
| What about cycling? | |
| What about, you know, men have all these advantages and then they take hormones, then they become women and then they dominate in those sports. | |
| Is that fair? | |
| You don't care. | |
| I don't care. | |
| So you're breaking with Rogan and Hitchcliffe on this. | |
| Brendan Schaub for trans athletes. | |
| This is very interesting. | |
| I like this. | |
| You know why? | |
| Schaub is woke. | |
| Shaub is woke. | |
| I don't care. | |
| You don't care. | |
| I don't care if you're not. | |
| It's like cycling. | |
| Everybody scared about cycling race. | |
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| Or like, have you seen the one just like diesel chick and she's sprinting? | |
| But she's not a, she's not a, she's not, she didn't, you know, she was in a, she was in a dude that had hormone replacement therapy and became a chick. | |
| Right. | |
| She's a female, glitterous everything, breast, but she, her testosterone's through the fucking roof. | |
| Right. | |
| And they're like, well, her testosterone is the same as more than dudes, but that's what she was put, she was put on this earth by with whatever you believe in the creator, and she just has more testosterone. | |
| But isn't that a rarity? | |
| That's rare. | |
| That's rare, but she's a freak of nature, with all due respect. | |
| Let her do her thing. | |
| Right. | |
| So transports, you're cool with, except for the MMA. | |
| Except for MMA. | |
| Don't care. | |
| She doesn't affect you. | |
| Don't care. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Don't care. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Okay. | |
| If it's MMA, if it's wrestling, that's a little dicey. | |
| It's a little dicey. | |
| If it's cycling, don't care. | |
| Track, don't care. | |
| Now, most people know this about you. | |
| You were a huge supporter and you funded Donald Trump's campaign the last time. | |
| You spent millions and millions of dollars. | |
| That's where all my money is. | |
| And what do you think about Donald Trump, Donald Trump, as president of the United States? | |
| Two-term Trump. | |
| I think that I just think people. | |
| We just got to do hot buttons. | |
| We're just trying to get clarified. | |
| We're just trying to get the pot. | |
| These are just hot buttons. | |
| We all feel the same way about him. | |
| We think he's funny. | |
| He probably shouldn't be the president. | |
| That's literally the way we feel. | |
| He's a celebrity who probably shouldn't be the president. | |
| He probably shouldn't be the president. | |
| Well, I think the majority of Americans. | |
| But he's very funny. | |
| He's very funny, hilarious. | |
| I think the majority of Americans are sick of politicians. | |
| We're trying to burn it down. | |
| It could have been anybody. | |
| We're burning the system down. | |
| Here's what's scary. | |
| When Kanye West goes, I'm running for president in 2024, The Rock. | |
| You're like, damn, these motherfuckers could win. | |
| They could absolutely win. | |
| I'm making Logan Paul president. | |
| We've talked about it a bunch on the show. | |
| I'm not going to talk about it again. | |
| I'm down for that. | |
| But it will happen. | |
| I'm telling you, it's going to happen. | |
| His brother being in the house is. | |
| We're going to keep his brother at bay a little bit. | |
| We're going to work with him. | |
| I like Jake. | |
| I like Jake. | |
| We got to tone it down a bit. | |
| We got to tone it down a bit. | |
| We're going to work with Logan. | |
| Jake will do agriculture. | |
| We'll put him somewhere. | |
| We're going to work with Logan first. | |
| When you hear politicians going millionaires are the problem, rich people are the problem. | |
| You're somebody who has a lot of money. | |
| Yes. | |
| What do you feel like when you hear that? | |
| When you hear Bernie Sanders or people like that. | |
| Now they're not necessarily talking about you. | |
| They're talking about the billionaire class. | |
| They're talking about the 0.001%. | |
| Right, but they're not a healthy person. | |
| I'm not 0.001. | |
| They're pitchforks for you. | |
| That's bullshit because I worked for this. | |
| I worked for this. | |
| I agree. | |
| I agree. | |
| But they're also all millionaires. | |
| Some of them are. | |
| Bernie is. | |
| Bernie. | |
| Sure. | |
| But the people that are just angry at rich people, how do you think maybe they're misguided? | |
| Because some of them have a point. | |
| Some have a point. | |
| The people have families and stuff. | |
| Yeah, that agree that billions of dollars forever. | |
| But people are self-made entrepreneurs. | |
| You shouldn't touch their money. | |
| That's fucked up. | |
| That's the American dream, right? | |
| Right. | |
| What are you doing? | |
| I know. | |
| Immigration. | |
| More, less, even. | |
| That your girlfriend is Mexican. | |
| Born and raised. | |
| Is she illegally? | |
| Do you realize interesting? | |
| Now, do you ever threaten her? | |
| A little call of the authorities if she gets wise. | |
| Every Thursday. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You go, listen, we can't do that. | |
| That daddy has to do it. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah. | |
| We talk back. | |
| Does she hate Trump? | |
| Because, of course, it makes sense. | |
| Man, it's not that she hates Trump. | |
| She doesn't like... | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| Does she Americanize it? | |
| Can she read and write and everything? | |
| Kind of. | |
| Okay. | |
| English, tough. | |
| A little bit. | |
| Right. | |
| She's in and out. | |
| She's probably smoking. | |
| She's cool. | |
| Very attractive. | |
| Okay, good. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Good mother. | |
| Good mother. | |
| Mexican dude. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Of course. | |
| Very nurturing, warm. | |
| Yes. | |
| Does she make a pandaler? | |
| What's that cake? | |
| They have pano. | |
| Solpa. | |
| Damasulpa. | |
| Something like that. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| What? | |
| So she kill it with the enchiladas? | |
| She kills with the enchiladas. | |
| Did she order the Mexican maid around? | |
| And is that interesting dynamic? | |
| Ooh, here's that. | |
| Right because she's the interesting dynamic. | |
| Mexican maids ever like, I know you think you're a white bitch. | |
| You ain't a white bitch. | |
| Yeah, she's like, bitch, we know where you come from. | |
| Guadalajara. | |
| Here's the thing, though. | |
| In my house, I'm the only one who doesn't speak Spanish. | |
| So in my house, I'm like a, and I have a whole bit about it. | |
| It's like I'm a refugee in my own house. | |
| Oh, that's hilarious. | |
| There's not one word of English being spoken. | |
| So your son's. | |
| Even my son, his first language is Spanish. | |
| Really? | |
| This is English from his dad, so he knows he's going to have a speech impediment. | |
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| So it's like, it's tough. | |
| Is he a wild kid? | |
| How do you see? | |
| He's young yet. | |
| It's tough to tell. | |
| Tough to tell. | |
| A lot of energy. | |
| So you see a lot of energy, but you don't know which way it's going to go. | |
| You don't know if it's going to be like Jake Paul, where you have to like, you're like, you have to get out of the house. | |
| Is it gold front? | |
| You know, there's, I think there was an article that said 31% of kids want to be YouTubers. | |
| Makes sense. | |
| There's so much money now. | |
| So much money. | |
| It's crazy. | |
| How do you feel about society? | |
| When you look at what's happening on social media and YouTube and things like that, does it make you feel confident where society's going? | |
| I think it's going to balance out. | |
| I think now we're like just realizing how addictive social media is, how it's like this bullying thing with young kids and kids who commit suicide. | |
| There's like this cancel culture and this hate culture on there. | |
| And it's a good thing, but it's also super negative. | |
| And I think it's going to sway back over here. | |
| And now you see how Instagram is, you can't see likes anymore. | |
| Instagram might see followers. | |
| Oh, you think so? | |
| Well, this is what they did with Facebook. | |
| They started playing around with it. | |
| And then it just became like a haven for boomers to scream at each other. | |
| Instagram, I think they're just starting to play around. | |
| Like the likes thing might not be the biggest deal, but I think if they keep fucking around with it, they keep changing the algorithm. | |
| It's more about selling stuff. | |
| Well, it's also like how hot to any of these things stay forever. | |
| Young kids are on TikTok now, right? | |
| I don't know what TikTok is. | |
| TikTok's that. | |
| Are you on there? | |
| No, I should be. | |
| You know, TikTok. | |
| It's that thing where people are dancing. | |
| They're falling down. | |
| They're doing crazy things. | |
| 15-second, 10-second videos. | |
| They have all those TikTok cringe companies. | |
| Boomerang? | |
| Yeah, it's like boomerang. | |
| It's like a 15-second, like a vine, but longer. | |
| And it's all those cringe compilations. | |
| Our fan base isn't there. | |
| No, they can't buy tickets. | |
| You're right. | |
| But I'm just saying when you look at like at one point. | |
| There's always going to be something. | |
| But Facebook's around. | |
| Twitter's around, right? | |
| Twitter's still around. | |
| Twitter was going away, but then Trump energized it and it became political. | |
| I like Twitter a lot because you can put things out and people can share them relatively easily. | |
| Agreed. | |
| You put a video out, but I do like Instagram too. | |
| I don't want it to go away. | |
| I'm just saying there's always going to be the next thing, right? | |
| Yeah, I think what we're going to learn is social media and you're giving these kind of these dark demons a voice where it gives them credibility to hate on successful people or hate on talented people and also bully kids. | |
| So I think it's going to even out. | |
| We're like, oh shit, this isn't giving everybody a voice and giving them opinion. | |
| It's not good. | |
| So Brendan Schaub here on the Tim Dylan show for taking away the internet from people. | |
| Oh, get rid of it. | |
| Only losers. | |
| Only losers. | |
| So not everyone should be able to communicate on social media. | |
| They shouldn't be able to communicate to certain people. | |
| The problem is. | |
| The access is that says it's too, we've got rid of that fourth wall. | |
| I know. | |
| When we're talking about walls, build that wall. | |
| Build that wall on social media. | |
| Build that wall to the people in their dad's basements to me. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, there's a lot of people. | |
| I think here's what's scary when you find out on social media. | |
| I think a lot of people are in basements. | |
| Like a lot of people are in their dad's basement. | |
| There's a lot of anger. | |
| There's a lot of mental illness. | |
| 100%. | |
| But there's also, it's their own mental illness. | |
| Yeah. | |
| You know what I'm saying? | |
| And it comes out. | |
| And I think researchers find it like, oh, this isn't good, man. | |
| It's not good. | |
| What do you tell those people that want to change your life? | |
| What should they do? | |
| Let's say somebody's watching this and they used to hate you. | |
| Stop watching this. | |
| Stop watching this. | |
| A great point. | |
| Stop watching this. | |
| Except give it five minutes. | |
| We need five minutes for the download. | |
| Yeah, for sure. | |
| But what is somebody who's just a bitter, angry person that hates everybody? | |
| Maybe they're racist. | |
| Maybe they hate immigrants. | |
| Maybe they hate rich people. | |
| All valid points. | |
| Here's the thing. | |
| Sure. | |
| I don't know anybody. | |
| I don't know anybody in my group who are way more successful than me. | |
| Anyone who gets online and sends hate comments. | |
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Mental Illness Anger
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| I've never done it. | |
| I don't know anyone who reads YouTube. | |
| I don't associate with anyone. | |
| So I'd probably start there by not doing that. | |
| Right, right. | |
| Stop commenting and doing crazy. | |
| Well, just do a trial test. | |
| Get some girl you're interested in. | |
| Right. | |
| Have her come over. | |
| She goes, oh, what are we doing? | |
| And you go, oh, I'm going to send hateful comments to this comic or this comic. | |
| See if she sucks your dick. | |
| How crazy would it be if the girl's like, awesome. | |
| Oh, I fucking hate him, too. | |
| It's good. | |
| Let's get Shao. | |
| Yeah, let's get him. | |
| Get him. | |
| Spider and the kids. | |
| Let's go. | |
| What's your Reddit name? | |
| I mean, it is sick, man. | |
| It is sick. | |
| What are you? | |
| Are you California till you die? | |
| Rogan talks about leaving all the time. | |
| I mean, the state is currently on fire. | |
| There's always fires. | |
| It's literally on fire. | |
| I'll always have a home there. | |
| I feel like to do stand-up, I'm going to have to be there. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So I'll always have, yes, I always have a home there, but I don't know. | |
| Maybe when I'm older, I'll move out. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I go to San Diego. | |
| I'd probably stay in California. | |
| You love California. | |
| Love California. | |
| I hate how many people there are, but I love it. | |
| What do you think of New York as a city? | |
| I used to dislike New York because I'd get anxiety and stress me out because it's such a hustle. | |
| Right. | |
| Everything's moving and the buildings. | |
| And now the last, since I started doing stand-up, going back there, being able to hang around, like get to know people and like locals will take me around. | |
| I fucking love it. | |
| So you like it now? | |
| Love East Coast now. | |
| Love Philly, Boston. | |
| Those are great cities for stand-up comedy. | |
| D.C., Boston, D.C. They're all great. | |
| They're all good. | |
| What's your favorite place to perform? | |
| Wilbur in Boston's pretty good. | |
| Really? | |
| Yeah, that's great. | |
| Grammacy in New York's dope. | |
| So you're selling out. | |
| People love you. | |
| Are you going overseas at all? | |
| Yep. | |
| I think we just announced it, a 50 Shades of Brown tour. | |
| We're doing Europe and all over, man. | |
| What do you say? | |
| What do you think the biggest thing, the biggest advantage that you have over other people when it comes to like your ability to get people in theaters and get people out? | |
| I don't know. | |
| I don't think I have an advantage. | |
| I think I have a fan base. | |
| Well, it's an advantage. | |
| It's an earned advantage, but it's an advantage. | |
| Yeah, but I'm just saying, like, I don't think I have some secret or something. | |
| I think Burt Kreischer is way better at marketing than I am. | |
| He's crazy. | |
| He's way better. | |
| I don't feel like I have an advantage when it comes to that stuff. | |
| I think, you know, I put in here, you know, me and Brian have been together for six years. | |
| When did you meet him? | |
| Like six, seven years ago. | |
| Were you doing stand-up then or you just met him? | |
| No, met him and then started doing the fire and the kid, then took that on the road. | |
| And that's when I started doing stand-up. | |
| So Fighter of the Kids has been around for six years. | |
| Six years. | |
| And then you guys developed a huge fan base right out the gate and then took that on the road. | |
| When did you meet Rogan? | |
| Met Rogan. | |
| I mean, well, remember Rogan was a UFC commentator. | |
| Of course. | |
| So when I was fighting the UFC, me and Rogan were boys. | |
| And then we got really close when I moved to L.A. | |
| And then him and Brian were the ones who were like, do stand-up. | |
| When did you first do stand-up? | |
| First did stand up would be, yeah, I mean, first time we did a live Fighter and the Kid. | |
| Because we did it at Bray Improv. | |
| 550 people. | |
| That was my open mic. | |
| And Brian was like, oh, you're going to go out and you can do 10 minutes stand up. | |
| You're going to go out and do 10 minutes. | |
| And he was like, so every show we're going to start doing this. | |
| This is going to be your open mic. | |
| How was the five of the first one go? | |
| Not great. | |
| Right. | |
| Not great. | |
| I mean, not, you know, it's, but that's the thing where people are like, oh, you didn't have to do the open mic thing where no one's around. | |
| I'm like, well, hold on. | |
| You mean open mics where it's full of other comics hating on the comics who are performing? | |
| My open mic was in front of 550 people. | |
| Tons of pressure. | |
| Yeah, it's huge. | |
| And then your first special was Showtime. | |
| How many years after that? | |
| Three. | |
| Do you feel like when you look back, do you say that was a crazy, fast crazy fast? | |
| Insane. | |
| To a special that nuts. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Wild. | |
| Wild. | |
| Would you do another one tomorrow? | |
| No. | |
| Yeah. | |
| No, I'd probably wait, I'd probably wait two years. | |
| I might do, I might do something, but not a hour special. | |
| When you look back at the special, how do you feel about it now? | |
| Everyone hates everything they do. | |
| I hate everything. | |
| I live on my podcast. | |
| I hate the day. | |
| I hate my set I'm going to do tonight. | |
| I'm going to hit a minute. | |
| I hate the set I'm going to do tonight. | |
| I hate everything. | |
| I'm proud of it. | |
| I'm proud of what I accomplished in a short amount of time. | |
| I think I'm crazy. | |
| I think I'm the fastest person to get a big network special in under a certain amount of years, which is a blessing and a curse. | |
| But I'm proud of it, you know, for sure. | |
| But it's like, I hate everything I do. | |
| So I don't know. | |
| We all hate it. | |
| When I do a special in three years, which will be way better than that one, I'm going to hate that one. | |
| Who's going to say if you pick one guy right now where you're like, this person is somebody you watch and you're like, fuck, this guy's great. | |
| Bill Burr. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Well, there's a few. | |
| There's Burr. | |
| Yeah. | |
| There's Schultz, Mark Norman. | |
| Shit, man. | |
| There's a few of them. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Yeah, Burr is amazing. | |
| They're all amazing. | |
| Everyone that you mentioned. | |
| Do you know Fahim? | |
| Yeah, Fahim's great. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| Performance him a lot. | |
| We're on usually together in LR. | |
| Months after each other. | |
| As far as like joke for joke, talent level, Fahim to me is top three around the store. | |
| Who are your podcasters that you're like, these guys are bananas? | |
| Do you listen to other podcasts or not really? | |
| My favorite podcast, I can't listen to other podcasts like mine, like, you know, like silly shit that we do. | |
| Right, but is there anybody, is there any podcast out there? | |
| Yeah, Dak Shepard, Armchair Expert. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Okay. | |
| That's my favorite podcast. | |
| I'm going to see you talk about. | |
| His is more of like a, he has guests on. | |
| There's Monica Padman, who's like his like co-pilot. | |
| She's really smart. | |
| They're like, it's just, it's just like informative. | |
| He's been through so much shit and therapy that he put, like, I learn a lot from it. | |
| Are you a therapy guy? | |
| Is that a Steve's? | |
| I've been to therapy, but my therapy is from like, you know, I probably should go, but I don't have time. | |
| Right. | |
| It's fucked up. | |
| Who are people that you can't beat up? | |
| Or you can beat up all comics, most every comic. | |
| What about Whitney Cummings? | |
| Because she's very rangy. | |
| She's kind of crafty. | |
| She also has like, she's more of a mean spirit. | |
| Do you ever, because you're a guy that was a fighter, do you ever go out in LA and look at somebody and go, that would be a tough fight? | |
| That guy's a fighter. | |
| Not once. | |
| Not once. | |
| I don't even think about fighting. | |
| Well, no, I don't. | |
| I can't remember the last time I thought about fighting. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Do you think it's because you're just a secure guy? | |
| Because there's a lot of little guys. | |
| It's not that I'm secure. | |
| I'm more of like, oh, these guys, they're going to think I'm bad at comedy. | |
| I'm thinking of comedy and cerebral. | |
| That's interesting. | |
| And then also somebody, somebody they're going to sue you for your house. | |
| Well, it's like I walk in a room like, oh, fuck, man. | |
| These guys are going to think I don't belong there. | |
| Right. | |
| Or I'm not as smart as these guys. | |
| I've only been doing it for 40 years. | |
| Right. | |
| So whatever expertise you have are different. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I'm not worried about, oh, can these guys beat me up? | |
| Right. | |
| Right. | |
| What about like that, like the thing, like, you know, Rogan's famous for his kick, right? | |
| He has that famous kick that he does on YouTube or whatever. | |
| You're not famous for his kick like fucking. | |
| Well, you know, I don't mean, I mean, in the fighting world, like Etsen Barbosa. | |
| No, of course, but like people will show me. | |
| They'll be like, look at that kick. | |
| That's crazy. | |
| Do you have like a fighting move that you're known for? | |
| I was known for like my darsh choke. | |
| Okay, now explain what that is because that's interesting to me. | |
| It's so like if a guy were to like what's it called? | |
| Darsh choke. | |
| Darsho. | |
| It's like choke with their arms like this. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | |
| Interesting. | |
| Yeah. | |
| So you would just choke people. | |
| It was, I was, I was very, I was good at it and getting it from different, all different positions. | |
| Were you ever a wrestling guy? | |
| Did you ever watch like WWF, WWE, growing up? | |
| I did, and I, then I turned 10 and then got over it. | |
| I'm with you. | |
| Yeah. | |
| I think it's a little depressing how comics still go to WrestleMania when they're in their 30s. | |
| I mean, it's a little much. | |
| I can't get into it. | |
| Me and Tony Hinchcliffe talk about this all the time. | |
| Like I had a bit of a Tony loves it. | |
| I had my bit on my social at Hulk Hogan Tony. | |
| He's like, dude, come on, man. | |
| You don't need to be doing that. | |
| Right. | |
| I'm like, it's Hulk Hogan. | |
| Yeah, yeah. | |
| He's going to have made the sex tape. | |
| Oh, yeah. | |
| So what Tony said, no, don't do it. | |
| Well, he's just like, come on, if you're going to do that, man. | |
| You know, it's like, they just, like, they, like, that's their Joe Montana or that's their, you know, Richard Pryor. | |
| Like, they feel like. | |
| Yeah, they're huge. | |
| I just can't get it because you did the real thing. | |
| It's like, why? | |
| We know it's choreographed dance recycling. | |
| I tried getting into it and I'm rock, yo me fucking $69.99. | |
| I watched, I'm like, this is terrible. | |
| It's not good. | |
| It's so strange. | |
| It's not good. | |
| In closing, what are is there anything that you would say to, you know, people that are excited about what you're doing? | |
| And if you like, are there, are there things where you're like, I want to make these things better? | |
| Like, I want to, like, are there, are there things that you're excited to do? | |
| Do you have any interest in doing anything other than podcasting or stand-up? | |
| If you had the money, is there a version of Brendan Schaub that puts out that stops doing it? | |
| No, that puts out a movie, that puts out a documentary, that puts out a TV show. | |
| Yeah, I've been amazed, but I mean, like yourself making it. | |
| Like, do you ever say to yourself, I want to make more shit different? | |
| The only thing I would do is do like a buddy comedy series, but with all our friends. | |
| Yeah, I mean, that's not a bad thing. | |
| Dio, Brian, Dalia, Segura, Joey Diaz, Rogan. | |
| Great idea. | |
| All the guys. | |
| I'd be down for that. | |
| But outside that, no. | |
| Like, I get offered movie stuff all the time, auditions. | |
| It's just not. | |
| Stand-ups are not. | |
| No, no, no. | |
| I mean, if you had, you could kind of do it. | |
| Again, if it was like with me and Brian or me and Dio, you could do some, yeah. | |
| But if it's just, if it's not. | |
| Because I think maybe that's the direction things will go eventually. | |
| Agree. | |
| You know, but I'll be doing with like, you know, everyone has kind of, we have this built-in audience from the podcast and stand-up, where if you think of all our crew in LA, it's like, it's kind of a network. | |
| Think how much power is in that. | |
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| Yeah. | |
| So like all these like Comedy Central, Spike, all these networks, they're going to want that audience. | |
| They're trying to get in the digital space. | |
| Yes, we're already there. | |
| It's interesting because, I mean, we do so much podcasting and stand-up. | |
| There's probably other things that we could do eventually. | |
| 100%. | |
| You know, because there's so many, like I've always wanted to do a thing about what I was like in mortgages and then cast like Coco Diaz or Santino or like these guys, you know, like in like that type of thing. | |
| And I think in a few years, that would absolutely be possible. | |
| And you could fund it yourself. | |
| Yeah, 100%. | |
| I think that that'll be the next win. | |
| I agree. | |
| Where can people find you? | |
| You want to plug anything, promote anything? | |
| This will come out Sunday night. | |
| I'm in Salt Lake City. | |
| Sunday. | |
| Saturday, 12 a.m., so Sunday day. | |
| Salt Lake City, Utah next week. | |
| Wise guys. | |
| Great. | |
| Wise guys is great. | |
| Great club. | |
| Go to, I think it's called Something's Diner, Rose's Diner or something. | |
| Red Iguana, bro. | |
| Red Iguana is dope. | |
| But then there's also a weird diner up in the hills. | |
| It's just beautiful in that area. | |
| Yeah, I'll get you. | |
| Oh, I have Kansas City first week of December. | |
| And then I'm in Jersey, I think one night, December 14th. | |
| Fighter in the UK. | |
| TFATK.com. | |
| TFAC TFATK. | |
| TFATK.com. | |
| Very good. | |
| Thanks for coming on, dude. | |
| Thanks for making. | |
| Thanks for making the time. | |
| I know this was good to see you, brother. | |
| Yeah, I'll come see you guys soon. | |
| I love you guys. | |
| I do. | |
| Yeah, you too, man. | |
| Love you. | |
| That one's great. | |
| All right, guys. | |
| Thanks so much. | |