Dark Journalist and Olivia dissect the "Mystery School message" linking Gurdjieff's Fourth Way to global crisis, citing Peggy Noonan's warnings on Putin's nuclear risks and criticizing Biden's Afghanistan failure. They analyze Ouspensky's accounts of Gurdjieff's shape-shifting abilities and connect these teachings to modern transhumanism under Elon Musk, the Enneagram's influence on Pope Francis, and steganography in Tertium Organum. Ultimately, the episode argues that esoteric traditions offer a path for self-evolution against elite suppression, urging listeners to seek hidden truths beyond social media censorship. [Automatically generated summary]
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The Path of Attention and Energies00:02:12
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist.
What a fantastic crowd we have out there already in the ideas room.
And of course, I'm joined by the lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And Olivia, there's a plane going by, which is shaking the studio here, but so far, so good.
But that's nothing compared to all the markets taking today.
Yes.
How about that?
What do you mean by that?
Well, it's pretty substantial and it's in the tech sectors.
And we're going to get into that today because this is a special episode that deals with the Mystery School message, but I have a lot of news.
Items up front just to take care of.
But you have arrived at X Series 125.
This is the Mystery School message, and it's Gurdjieff Ospensky Crisis in World Affairs.
And it's interesting when we look at all the things that are going on, because of course Russia's in the heart of so much of them, and so much of the Fourth Way story takes place in Russia.
And of course, Ospensky was a leading journalist at the time, and it was Gurdjieff who came to Russia.
From Alexandrupal.
And his story is quite unique, very mysterious, and intentionally things are left out of it so that we would have to kind of find over the years those different pathways to his place of knowledge, and he would still sort of keep his promise to keep the Brotherhoods a secret.
But of course, so much of this is talked about, and how much we've done it on the X series, bringing it out, how the mystery schools decided, got together, and decided we need to come out.
And bring this information out in a new way to people because global societal collapse was at hand and there was a huge takeover of scientific materialism.
So that brings us into the fourth way and a very interesting variation on the mystery schools because, of course, we had anthroposophy and theosophy at the time.
This is a little bit different.
This tried to basically shake off things that were not accessible, like reincarnation and things like that, and didn't emphasize psychic experience.
Nuclear Tensions and Foreign Policy Flaws00:15:14
It went on a different It went on the path of attention and energies.
And then things like reincarnation, recurrence, and psychic experience all became secondary to that know oneself idea.
And they emphasized the idea of the work in Gurdjieff's fourth way system.
So, this is going to be a real fascinating angle in on this because all the news that we're tracking has to do with the global forces reaching such a point and such a level of stress.
That we find ourselves in a real pressure cooker on this globally and with some big voices, if you really are there and watching, talking nuclear.
And that really has got to get all of our attention because of the major stakes that are involved with that.
And the casual use of the nuclear option is just something that can't be tolerated in this day and age.
But here we have, you know, nuclear weapons haven't been used really since 1945.
In earnest, in terms of attack.
So it would be a major, major game changer if something were to happen along that line 75 years later, especially since we've had such skillful diplomacy to avoid it all of these years with John F. Kennedy's handling of the Cuban Missile Crisis, Ronald Reagan's handling with Gorbachev of the end of the Cold War, and a number of quiet moments, including Nixon and Salt and all the rest.
It brings us to a place where literally this is a problem that we dealt with 35 years ago.
We shouldn't be at this place of staring at a nuclear abyss again, especially since those weapons are obsolete.
And we, looking at it from a number of different angles, know that they are.
And they admitted as much about 35 years ago when they talked about the zero option for nuclear weapons.
So we're going to get into all that tonight.
It's a great crowd of everyone out there tonight.
I want to mention before we start that we're going to be taking your questions in the second half of the program, and Miss Olivia is going to be putting those together.
How's the temperature out there?
Very good, very excited for tonight's show.
Yes, this is going to be very special, especially since those threads that come through the Mystery School reality are going to lead us to 21st century politics, believe it or not.
And it's pretty interesting, actually, the crisscross when you get into that.
But more and more, as we get into the events that are happening, we can see the reason why the Mystery School has left so much for us to rediscover.
This was interesting, and I wanted to start off with it.
This is Peggy Noonan's column, and Peggy Noonan is a writer for the Wall Street Journal, doesn't pull a whole lot of punches, and is very frank.
She was a speechwriter during the Reagan era, she's been around a long time, very savvy.
And I found her article on Putin and nukes particularly compelling.
This one is called Putin Really May Break the Nuclear Taboo in Ukraine.
This is an article that just came out today, and It makes a series of very good points that the kind of boxed in way that Putin has become, he sees this as his only alternative of being able to win.
The fact that I've brought up over and over again is that there's a huge lack of a peace process going on here.
And we've jacked up our rhetoric dramatically through Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin, who should have been fired immediately after the embarrassing withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Where we gave $85 billion of the world's highest class weapons to the Taliban, who were supposed to be our enemy and had harbored Osama bin Laden or Tim Osman, if you know what you're talking about.
So this is really interesting because apparently it's that weakness that set us up for this.
Former President Trump, Piers Morgan, had him in a big gotcha interview this week going at him.
But in the middle of that, there's a big long stretch about foreign policy.
In his view, that they're going to set off a nuclear war by this chaotic response of bellicose rhetoric and no real plan.
And also demonstrating weakness the way that they did in leaving Afghanistan that way, you know, just leaving all their weapons behind and running out in a scene that we haven't seen look that bad really since leaving the embassies back in Vietnam in the mid 70s.
So you have to take all this into account and realize that the people who are at the front, you know, like, Anthony Blinken, Secretary of State.
This guy looks like a bad extra on SNL or something.
I mean, this is not the kind of image we want to portray to the world.
And he never says anything.
He goes before these Senate committees and doesn't say anything because he's out of his depth.
And most of that administration is.
I've never seen such incompetence in my life.
It's amazing.
I mean, isn't that the fact?
I think it stems from the top because they don't have respect for Biden because he doesn't have his cognizance and the lack of cognizance.
The only thing is from the top.
I mean, this is the lesson from Excalibur, right?
It's true.
You know, it's all about, and if you've ever worked in a hierarchical situation, you know, whoever's the boss sets the tone.
Yes, there's no question about it.
Well, we've also seen on a number of occasions that situations like this unravel.
And, you know, just like Bush's big run and run into Iraq just became a walking disaster until they threw him out of office.
You know, that's how Obama got in there, and he was disaster number two.
It's like, how about we take over Libya and have no plan for running it?
So it's a failed state.
Here's a couple of interesting insights from Peggy Noonan that I think are quite fascinating.
So she says, sometimes a thing keeps nagging around your brain, and though you've said it before, you have to say it again.
We factor in but do not sufficiently appreciate the real possibility of nuclear weapons use by Russia in Ukraine.
This is the key and crucial historic possibility in the drama, and it really could come to pass.
Now, that's someone writing at a very high level for the Wall Street Journal and putting that out there.
I've said that on the liberal side, they've floated the idea that, like, hey, you know, maybe a nuclear exchange.
Of a mild nature would be good for the climate.
All this weird stuff, which is definitely pushed by the World Economic Forum types, everything has to be about climate change because that's their pet project to control humanity.
This is from MSN, and here we have one of the stories.
They have a Supreme Court story, and on the bottom they say, the minutes following a nuclear blast are vital to your survival.
And there's a big, long article in here about This nuclear blast survival.
This is what we're seeing more and more.
They're trying to prep us and get us into this situation where, you know, there's defense contractors at work here who want the idea of short range nukes on the battlefield to become a regular thing because they can open up a whole new category, produce a ton of weapons instead of just renewing old weapons.
So Russia is giving them that excuse.
And Russia is going up, you know, every time we have Putin come out, he's coming out with this bellicose rhetoric.
About a nuclear exchange, which is crazy.
So now, you know, we have big problems there with Putin, and we kind of provoked him in with putting NATO on his doorstep.
So now all parties need some incentive to get the hell out of there.
And, you know, Russia needs to get out of there.
It's ridiculous what they've done in relation to the entire situation globally to just roll into Ukraine as they have.
But at the same time, You know, we've been through the CIA, which is an extra constitutional agency, doesn't really represent America.
That's another problem.
They've been fomenting this whole thing since the coup over there in the Ukraine in 2014.
So we're going to have to get real about all that stuff, or those crazy people are going to start setting off nukes.
And so why not get on these people while there's still a chance?
But I think the fact that Noonan, who has such a place, you know, as part of the CFR and everything else, is reasonable, you know, as a smart, very smart.
And canny kind of observer of world events.
This is very important that she's out there saying this is inevitable.
Now, she asks, why would Vladimir Putin use tactical nuclear weapons?
Why would he make such a madman move?
And to change the story, to shock and destabilize his adversaries, to scare the people of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization countries so they'll force their leaders to back away, to remind the world and Russians that he does have military power to avoid a massive and public military defeat.
To win.
Those are a lot of reasons, and Putin would have to be a lunatic to use nukes, and his talk is already loose enough.
And I think that, you know, Trump had mentioned something that there should be a deal in place.
There's no peace process going on.
And the defense secretary, as Noonan references here, she says, the U.S. at the same time has become rhetorically bolder.
This month, President Biden referred to Mr. Putin as a war criminal.
Yeah, you don't get a whole lot of peace treaties going on talking like that.
In March, Mr. Biden called for regime change.
Well, that's actually technically not legal for us to advocate for that.
And then the White House walked it back.
Yeah, they keep doing that with Stepford Joe because he's in cognitive decline and he just goes off.
You know, the other day, what was that word he couldn't pronounce?
Did he ever really pronounce it?
I don't know if he got around to it.
But I think it was the worst footage yet.
And, you know, they should just, they have to cite the amendment at this point and take him out of there because he's just a mess.
And what they have to replace him with is good old Kamala.
So good luck with that.
That's a very tough situation.
But there's a piece here where she says this week's Defense Secretary, Secretary Lloyd Austin told reporters in the U.S. That the U.S. aim in where is the rest of this?
Basically, what he said was that we have to weaken Russia, not just, you know, take their forces down and secure Ukraine, but now we want to weaken them so that they can't do this to some other Ukraine situation.
That's a totally different position.
So, Lloyd Austin, who was the disaster who brought us the disastrous withdrawal from Afghanistan, which is one of the worst things in history, as I've said, so now we have him.
Advocating for this whole position that we need to take on, you know, instead of just securing Ukraine, we need to take on Russia.
So while they're doing that, Russia's talking nuclear and the whole thing is getting out of hand and there's no peace process anywhere involved.
That's a logical step.
So we have to see how we get into situations like this and how it shakes all realms to their core because nuclear exchange is something very serious for humanity and something that we've avoided, as I've said, through very death and through very cunning.
Negotiations over the years.
And I think really one of the main problems that we're seeing is that Biden is such a fool on the national stage that he's giving America the identity of a fool on the national stage.
And that situation, you know, where a lot of people got together to try to get anyone in there but Trump.
And instead, what they got was this bumbling idiot.
So we're in a real bad situation there.
And I think that the folks living in the bubble.
At Davos, don't really understand what they're unleashing by playing into this war talk in relation to Russia.
So, if anything, there should be a major process in place.
Let's go a little bit further on this because, um, I do, and like I said, a lot of people are coming forward on the story to say, hey, you know, nuclear this and nuclear that.
Um, some people floating it as, hey, it might happen.
You know, this is this is different, this is a lot different.
Okay, at the same time, Anthony Blinken has come out and told the Senate that neutrality or NATO is Kiev's choice to make.
U.S. ready to accept a neutral Ukraine.
This is huge because what it shows is that the people and the government set up in Ukraine, which has been largely hijacked by the Davos crowd, has gone into a totally different mode.
And they're starting to realize that they are the punching bag in this whole scenario for war between the West and the East.
And so they're kind of looking at the situation and saying, you know what, we don't really want to be able to find a way out of this.
And the United States is now having to admit, well, if.
You know, if they want to be neutral, like we don't have to force NATO on them and all the rest.
So, this is the sign that maybe there might be a break in those tensions.
Let's hope so.
The result of all this big tech falls back to earth, Amazon plunges on forecast, Bezos loses billions, layoffs begin at Netflix.
Yeah, those are the numbers we're talking about.
And that's the stock market crash that we were talking about earlier.
Now, when you see that type of disaster brewing, and then you hear about 16 food distribution plants in the United States being Hijacked and blown up, or different things happening to them that are just out of the ordinary, shall we say.
Then it feels like they're building a whole warslash food riot scenario.
And that's what we're moving into for 2022.
And in the middle of that, what do they do?
The Biden administration says, you know, we're going to create a whole new thought police for the internet.
And we're going to do it through what?
Homeland Security.
Well, Homeland Security, extra constitutional force in the first place.
And operating under the September 11th emergency rules, that's the only reason that organization even exists.
Quarter of a million employees.
What do you need a quarter of a million employees for at the Department of Homeland Security?
Biden Administration Defense Maneuvers00:03:13
So, you know, these things are moving into a place where all these things are coming to a head.
And then we, in the middle of it all, looking out and saying, how can we impress upon these leaders to make different choices?
Well, I think the best way for us to do things is to understand what the game is, first of all.
And that goes politically and it goes right down to an individual level in a number of cases.
And so the kind of disastrous government that we're seeing in some strange way is a reflection of where the culture, the civilization, or the society is at.
And so looking at some of those flaws in the civilization is what we're going to do tonight and where the mystery schools have thought to.
Move us from, you know, they were coming out of World War II, World War I, disaster situations where they saw millions of people being thrown into cannon fire and, you know, topping it all off with massive use of atomic weapons.
So they revealed themselves, they came out, they put so much information out there and circulated that information.
Now that information sets a perfect backdrop for us here in the 21st century.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist X series, 125.
We are here and looking at the Mystery School message.
And it's the Gurdjieff Ospensky Fourth Way Schools and that incredible message that they've left behind for a world in crisis for the 21st century.
We're going to be taking your questions in the second half of the program.
You can ask them now, of course.
And Miss Olivia is going to put those together.
How are we doing?
It's the Wild West tonight.
This feels much more like a Saturday night show.
Oh, yeah.
So it's.
I'm going to have a hard time keeping up, I can tell already.
Shashakila said, I think Dr. JPF just postulated that the Taliban might have taken the weapons left behind in Afghanistan to Ukraine.
It would be an excellent maneuver and perfect timing.
Wow, that is remarkable.
I would like to know.
Well, I guess we're going to have to have Dr. Farrell back on shortly to explain this because that would be quite a maneuver.
And those borders are being watched really hardcore.
They're doing a lot of stupid things, moving weapons from Poland and all the rest.
Those guys are going to get bombed, and we're going to get ourselves into World War III if somebody doesn't step up with a real peace process to end the whole thing and make a deal to get out of there.
But this is really, I think, an important piece in all this, which is the game on the Biden administration side seems to be in the Boeing, Lockheed Martin defense contractor mold of just like, hey, this gives us an opportunity.
The more it goes on, we'll probably start, end up selling arms to both sides.
That's the way that they look at it.
So, this is the nature of the situation, or as Gurdjieff would say, the terror of the situation.
And that's something that we're going to get into tonight as well.
Spiritualism's Dramatic Awakening in 187500:13:10
So, on the fourth way side, and where this comes from, it's quite interesting because Gurdjieff shows up just as World War I is hitting, and he comes really out of the blue into Russia, and he is developing a small group, and they consist of artists and intelligentsia of the day.
Interestingly enough, Gurdjieff himself has.
Developed an interesting reputation having been something of a Rasputin in the court of the Tsars.
And apparently, some faction in the Russian royalty were going to set him against Rasputin.
And all that stuff, you know, he has a very interesting background and it's hard to track.
But we know that a number of his main pupils came about as a result of spying on him, which is quite fascinating.
But Gurdjieff comes in and he's saying that there's a whole new.
Teaching that comes from this fourth way system, which is derived from the mystery schools, and that he is the representation of it, and that he is going to gather this group together and work with small groups to create this.
Over time, what forms out of it is that the mystery schools have developed a sort of a protocol for sending people out and delivering some of this information, injecting it into.
The exoteric circle of humanity directly from the inner circle of humanity as a way to guide the culture forward and give us the tools we need.
So we find that in the figure of G.I. Gurdjieff, which a lot of people still don't understand very well because there are so many questions about his early travels.
And we have the book, which is Meetings with Remarkable Men, which is a story about that.
But he wrote it, and a lot of it seems to be in code, much less coded.
Than Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, which is the book he will write later, which is like a James Joyce tongue twister.
But certainly, you have something there with Gurdjieff where he is revealing something new.
And what we're going to get out of it is the system, the fourth way system, self remembering, chief feature, the Enneagram, self awareness.
And, you know, there's just a whole cosmology connected with what he brings forward, but it's totally unique.
That is, theosophy and anthroposophy had a lot of things in common as the two main kind of public mystery schools.
And they both had a belief in reincarnation, they both had a belief in the culture of Atlantis, etc.
And you do find those things showing up in the Gurdjieff work, but you don't find so many of the unusual pieces that a human being is a series of different I individuals and that they're all asleep and that they have become machine like and that they need to awaken so that they're not mechanical and doing things mechanically.
There are certain types of philosophy systems that maybe glance around at this at the time, but there's nothing like the Gurdjieff work when it comes out.
It's totally new.
And like Theosophy, when it hits in 1875, there's really no antecedent.
It's, you know, there's spiritualism that is around in the 1860s and 1850s.
There's the Poughkeepsie Seer, the Fox sisters, and things of this nature, which are bringing out this idea of the afterlife and psychic experience.
But Theosophy comes in and says there's a group of Eastern masters, the masters of wisdom, and they're ascended masters that are guiding.
Humanity and Saint Germain is among them.
And, you know, there's a series of like Moriah and all of these different ascended masters who are there to help.
But it's so obvious in a way, you know, that they're put up front.
And this is a very different kind of a system.
Now, if we go back and trace that back, just a quick sort of snapshot of the period before that.
If you go to 1840, we're looking at the development of scientific materialism on such a level.
That it brings out this extreme reaction from the mystery schools.
Take a look at it, certain individuals inside those schools, and say, humanity won't be recognizable in 100 years when this process of scientific materialism is done because it's going to separate them from their core spirituality.
So we need to release some of these secrets that we've been holding and help the culture sort of develop.
And there's a lot of resistance to it, but eventually the huge compromise in all of it is Helena Blavatsky.
And Blavatsky comes forward in 1875 to New York from Russia, having been in Tibet and Egypt.
And she meets up with Colonel Henry Olcott.
And Olcott is basically a retired general from the era of Abraham Lincoln in the Civil War.
And he actually served on the Warren Commission version of the Abraham Lincoln assassination.
And he's writing all these articles for the New York Times.
And they're all about spiritualism.
So she develops this relationship with him and shows up, and they both meet at this house up in Vermont, the Eddie household, where all of these strange things are happening and people are seeing these apparitions.
And so the story goes, and they develop this incredible group.
That is really the breakthrough, along with her book, Isis Unveiled, in that corridor, that window of the 1870s.
And when that book hits, nobody's ever seen anything like that either.
It's two volumes one is philosophy, and the other one's science.
And this is definitely coming from a mystery source.
As Rudolf Steiner would say about it later, you know, true initiators, true initiates from the mystery school stood at the cradle of theosophy.
And, but it had to play itself out in public.
And there were so many, you know, human frailties and human weaknesses involved in the development of a group like that that you got a lot of fantasy going and you got people.
Saying, well, I'm also talking to Master Saint Germain and I'm getting this message from him.
And it became a pretty big mess eventually.
But the work itself of Theosophy set up this dramatic awakening on a number of different subjects.
And that really echoes through everything that we see today, including the remarkable yoga explosion in the United States.
And you see everyone walking around with yoga mat now.
We know where that's coming from.
And you're also looking at themes like reincarnation, psychic experience.
All that really is coming out of theosophy and on a broad scale, and all the Eastern concepts of meditation, etc.
So, when we get into that, theosophy starts to get a bad reputation after a while of being, you know, kind of like sort of, you know, woo woo spirituality and, you know, I saw this master on a mountaintop type thing.
And it loses some of that early luster that it had when Blavatsky was active.
And she dies in 1890.
And Besant and Ledbetter take over.
And those are, you know, Annie Besant and C.W. Ledbetter are the two kind of people that are supposed to take theosophy and bring it to a new level.
They have their own issues and they decide to create this whole scenario about a Hindu boy, Krishnamurti, who's going to incarnate the world teacher.
And so this is one of those, you know, humanity.
Kind of trying to push things to go at a fast food level.
And it didn't work out.
And they lost a lot of credibility as a result.
They lose one of their main teachers in the German chapter, and that is Rudolf Steiner.
And it is Steiner who will develop anthroposophy out of that, which again looks forward to the 21st century and all the eight sphere and harmonic technology that's going to weigh down on us.
In the middle of this whole process, Gurdjieff shows up in Moscow in 1915.
Right after the Russian writer P.D. Uspensky has gone east in search of the miraculous and writes a series of different articles to that effect.
I want to say this about Uspensky.
He's thought of mostly in relation to his work with Gurdjieff.
But in fact, he was more well established than Gurdjieff.
He had already written a very popular book, Tertium Organum, and his books were being translated into English.
He was far ahead of the game.
In terms of people knowing about his work, which dealt with the fourth dimension and things of this nature, and the nature of reality.
So he was very advanced in a number of ways.
So when we get to Gurdjieff, it's very easy to say, well, Spensky was one of his students because he did adopt Gurdjieff's system and then he went on to teach it for the rest of his life.
But in fact, he was already a very well established sort of esoteric intellectual by that period.
And I think a couple of things I want to say about Spensky, which is.
His works, Tertium Organum, New Model of the Universe, and The Strange Life of Ivan Ossikin, which is a novel that has, it's sort of the early basis for Groundhog Day because it's all about eternal recurrence, which was one of those things that Nietzsche brought forward and Ouspensky was a part of.
Ouspensky brought his own spin to it that he had remembered his life exactly as it happened when he was a young child.
And so he has a kind of a magical.
Mystical experience as a child.
I actually found a picture of him as a child, which is quite remarkable.
And I think you can see there that real sort of mystic look already.
I mean, look at that.
Those eyes are incredible.
He really, he's got a very interesting psychic quality as a child, there's no doubt about it.
And I think what we get in Aspensky is somebody who is scientifically minded on one hand, but has the whole esoteric piece.
So he's a great combination.
It's what makes him so rare.
Interestingly enough, he's one of the few people.
Who was cited in the Casey readings for where people should go to develop their sense of spirituality?
And in those readings, there's a few strange things that happened with Casey in relation to Uspensky.
One of them is that in one of his readings, he says, Oh, in looking at the records of Uspensky while in trance, he says, Oh, he was the record keeper in the Mount for the Mahabbas.
So giving him this very holy title.
And saying, he was born in the seventh day of the seventh month of the seven years 777.
Very esoteric, goes right off the chart.
And we may not know exactly what it means, but I think it indicates that Uspensky was a very unusual mystical individual in this incarnation.
And so, what we're looking at on another occasion is Casey will actually give this whole dissertation while in trance and then say, this is Uspensky giving this.
Now, that's while Uspensky was still alive, so it's not like he was tapping into some disembodied spirit.
So, there, Casey's tapping into the subconscious mind of P.D. Uspensky, who's giving this philosophical overview.
So, we have some unusual things there about Uspensky.
Uspensky understands steganography extraordinarily well, he understands symbolism, and he understands that the world goes a lot deeper.
His own works, Tertium Organum, lean more into anthroposophy and theosophy, they're more on that side.
Than what will happen in his work with Gurdjieff.
And Gurdjieff's work, which is very radical and revolutionary, has a little bit of a cynical tone to some of the spiritualist style groups like Theosophy.
So it's interesting to see that huge flip flop from Ospensky as he starts out sort of on a more innocent tip and how Gurdjieff sort of corrupts him with the truth a little bit.
Social Media Censorship and Great People00:03:36
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist X Series 125.
We're going deep here tonight on PD Ospensky and Gurdjieff in the Mystery School message.
And it is a world in crisis that they are giving the message to.
And they had seen that this was coming.
And here we are, right in the middle of it all.
We're going to be taking your questions in part two of the program.
And I want to remind you to go to darkjournalist.com and sign up for our newsletter.
You know, the newsletter is what really keeps us that whole pipeline with each other, where we're not, you know, Here's the thing about all the things that we've been hearing about social media and, you know, hey, Elon bought Twitter and all that stuff.
You know, I mean, that's great.
But when you get right down to it, you know, these people will censor at will.
And that's just the nature of how they do things.
And it's, you know, I would like to see how that whole Elon thing unfurls itself.
But I'm more interested, of course, in the Elon of SpaceX and Starlink.
And this other thing is just kind of an interesting sideshow.
In a lot of ways.
But I'm all for getting free speech in vogue.
And I put my own thoughts on this on the record last week, just saying that a lot of the things that were happening there are about market share, and that the market share was really improving dramatically for conservative groups and others through things like Truth Social and Getter and things like that.
And those apps are on the rise.
And basically, this Twitter thing, what were you going to do with it?
So they had to create some kind of mechanism to.
Make it competitive.
And now it has a whole story.
And I'm sure this is going to be interesting to play out.
But I think we've seen before, and we've talked with Catherine Fitz about this, which is solutions in our world, the way that it's set up, have to come more from the ground up.
And expecting them to come from the top down, we inevitably wind up getting disappointed because those people have a number of strings that are attached in there.
And it would be nice if the top level can interact with the ground level.
And if they can both have the same goals, I'm all for it.
But over and over again, I think we've seen that things that move up on a grassroots level tend to do a lot better than trusting billionaires playing with deck chairs on the Titanic.
But I think it is important to look at it that way.
But the reason I mention that is because the social media censorship that we've looked at and that we've faced, we've seen it with incredible things with doctors and people like Naomi Wolf, who was, after all, On the left, and they were censoring her.
So, this just wasn't a hey, let's censor all the people on the right thing.
The censorship has gone.
Anyone who's gone against the establishment, who's gone against the regime, the woke regime, feels the weight of that.
And that's the power that the tech companies have assigned to themselves.
In truth, all we need to do is take that power back, you know, one user at a time.
And the way that we can do it, I feel, is by maintaining a mailing list.
And hey, I'll use the social media networks as long as they're available for this work.
And I've always said the same thing, which is it comes right down to it I'll broadcast on an iPhone.
And you know it's true.
But yeah, go ahead and sign up for that newsletter.
Gurdjieff's Three Systems and Control00:05:58
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Okay, before we go any further, I'm going to introduce a very strange follower of the Enneagram.
Are you ready?
I'll introduce a couple, actually.
How about that for a headline?
Is Pope Francis really not against the Enneagram?
Pope Francis, huh?
Well, let's talk about the Enneagram for a minute.
This is what Gurdjieff taught when he came.
This is part of his teaching, which is this very unusual symbol.
And basically, you know, the term itself just means nine points.
That's the Ennea part.
And Graham is just where it's drawn.
So it's something drawn that has nine points, the Enneagram.
Gurdjieff attributed a lot to this symbol and said that the mystery schools use it as a method of communication.
And also, he was very quiet about it in relation to the students.
And when he talked to Uspensky about it, so there's a lot of secrets and mysteries about it still.
It got picked up later by Oscar Echazo and some others who.
Claimed that they discovered it through another mystery school in South America after Gurdjieff brought it out.
But sometimes I think it's really absurd the way that we see things come out about the Enneagram and they don't mention Gurdjieff because Gurdjieff brought it out in 1915.
I mean, come on.
If these other guys want to talk about it and wanted to create this whole thing about it and make it almost like a board game later, that's very different than how it started.
So we need to keep that in mind.
But Gurdjieff obviously put a lot into what the Enneagram was.
And it seemed that this is the symbol of the Saruman Brotherhood, according to Gurdjieff, which is the brotherhood that taught him all that he knew.
And this is the brotherhood that he found that he heard about and that he sought out over the course of a decade with another group called the Seekers After Truth.
And so the story goes he discovers the school and he's deemed worthy and he works with the school over a long period of time.
And then when he leaves, he has developed a kind of system of ideas based on his work there, but in combination with other things that he's discovered and developed.
And he's like, this is the fourth way system.
And this is the thing I'm coming out for.
Now, if you look at it in terms of how we presented things here in the past on the mystery school side, it looks to me, just like with anthroposophy, that the mystery schools, part of what they have decided to do to let information out is to get these types of individuals out there and see how they do.
So they take a Blavatsky and they say, we'll give them this much support and this much information and then see how they do.
And I think that the traditions of those groups are so secret that we'll never really know.
Exactly.
We have the stories of who trained them and all the rest, but we'll never really know the origin of that group.
We just get an idea, we won't get their zip code.
And that's just the way it's meant to be.
And Gurdjieff alluded to this when he said, Look, there are two things that you need to know.
There's always the what to do and how to do it.
So, the what to do, turn the other cheek, for example, in the Christian tradition, is what you need to do.
But the how to do it is a totally different thing.
And that remains hidden.
That remains underground because it's always persecuted when it's above board and the wrong people get hold of the information, et cetera.
So the how to do it stays underground.
And the what to do is just the thing that's left on the surface.
And we need to figure out how do we even get to a level where we can have enough self control to do these things.
Gurdjieff brought forward a system where you could develop enough of these energies to spiritually evolve.
But he said that the system, the reason it's called the fourth way is because it's different than the other three systems of spiritual evolution.
And the other three systems are being a monk or priest, being a fakir, so like laying down a bed of nails kind of thing in India, and the yogi.
And the yogi is very interesting because that's mind over matter, you know, and you can go, you know, without, you can fast and you can do all these different incredible things, you can levitate.
That's a certain type of control.
The fakir has control over pain in his body, and the monk has a devotional faith, and that emotional body that he develops is also a spiritual evolutionary.
So, in the fourth way system, there's another way which can only be done in the everyday life conditions, and that is a system of spiritual evolution that works just like the other three systems do.
But you can't go away to a cave in a monastery somewhere, you have to be in the regular conditions of life.
If you're a librarian, You're a librarian.
If you're a CEO, you're a CEO.
If you're a gas pump guy, then you're a gas pump guy.
And that's where you practice the fourth way.
And it's interesting because he also boasted about the fourth way and said that it actually works on a number of different centers all at once, as opposed to these other centers, these other ways which work on specific centers.
In the case of the monk, as I said, the higher emotional devotional center.
Mystical Keepers of the Enneagram00:11:35
And so on.
So, Gurdjieff definitely had incredible experience from his travels.
And there are a lot of his pupils over the years who are like, you know, when he's talked a little bit about where these ideas come from, we almost know, we almost get an idea.
And one of those pupils was J.G. Bennett, who was a pupil who did a lot of work with Frank Lloyd Wright, who was also a big Gurdjieff enthusiast.
And as a matter of fact, Frank Lloyd Wright's wife was one of the main Gurdjieff teachers.
And that gets into very interesting territory as well, because there is a group around Frank Lloyd Wright that is also very much like a Gurdjieff group.
And they developed their own kind of village of advancement.
But anyway, I was looking for a picture of Bennett.
I know I have it here somewhere.
That is actually a picture of the dance on the Enneagram.
I think that's very interesting.
And I think that the Enneagram is important to be understood, as Suspensky said, as a moving symbol.
So the Enneagram is moving.
And that's why it's hard for us to understand it just looking at the image.
But if you see people doing the Gurdjieff movements on it, then that's supposed to give you kind of the revelation ah, I know what this is.
Here's the picture of Bennett with Frank Lloyd Wright.
I want to point out Bennett because he has some very interesting work, he's the one who really teaches in the 60s and the 70s the Gurdjieff work after Gurdjieff has died.
He's worked two decades with Ospensky and he's worked over in spurts with Gurdjieff over two decades.
So he really is the combination of both of them in a way, understanding the limitations because Gurdjieff and Ospensky will split after.
Originally, Gurdjieff comes in to Moscow, and it is Uspensky who basically introduces him around and then eventually develops his system of ideas in the book In Search of the Miraculous, which will take that movement of the Gurdjieff ideas really worldwide.
But it won't be released until after Uspensky's death, and that's the way he wanted it.
Very interesting.
Here's some of the things that Bennett had to say.
Again, Bennett did his own remarkable work at Coombe Springs.
And Sherborne and developed these kind of alternative Gurdjieff schools after the fact of the master's passing.
So here's how he tracks back where Gurdjieff gets his influences from.
And I think it's very interesting.
We'll take just a little hiatus on this.
A very great enigma Gurdjieff, J.G. Bennett.
A few quotes.
Now, Gurdjieff was very emphatic when he spoke to us all.
He said that the real place to go is Bukhara, because if you really want to know the secrets of Islam, He said, You'll find them in Pokhara.
Now, what's interesting is Gurdjieff called the fourth way system esoteric Christianity, and Rudolf Steiner called anthroposophy esoteric Christianity.
So, it's definitely identified with a Christian system, just like when they refer to Sufism.
The Sufis that they are referring to are very often Christian Sufis.
But there's a huge overhang of kind of secret mystical Islam in the Gurdjieff work.
And so, what he says is, you'll find these secrets of Islam in Bukhara.
And then Bennett says, this is equivalent to saying you will find them if you can find the center of the Naqshbandi.
The Naqshbandi is this mystical group.
It seemed clear enough from what he had said about this that there are people, these are the people who know about the Enneagram and who therefore have some very profound and extraordinary teachings.
I can point to another piece of evidence that confirms this interpretation, and this is to be found in the etymology of the word Naqshband.
And that's N E Q S H B A N D.
The order was founded in the 14th century by Muhammad Buhaddin.
Who died in AD 1390.
The order is not so very ancient compared with the Mevlevies, the dervishes, who are contemporaries of the Franciscans, who are nearly as old as the Benedictines.
What made Bahadur assume the surname Naqshband?
The word Naqsh means seal or symbol or makes a sign.
The word Naqshband can also be understood to mean those who make symbols, think the Enneagram.
Those who have the power to create symbolism.
It seems probable that Gurdjieff, when he was traveling in those parts at the end of the last and the beginning of this century, succeeded in making contact with these people, that he did so.
He gives various hints as to what happened.
There are distributed round chapters of his books, some in the chapter called The Bukharian Dervish, Haji Azvatruv.
I hope I pronounced that correctly.
Some of the chapters that I've already referred to in the second series called Prince Yuri Lubavetsky.
And this is where Gurdjieff and his books, we always find these interesting references.
For example, there's this character, Prince Lubavetsky, in Meetings with the Remarkable Men.
And later, Bennett will find out that Lubavetsky means love of knowledge.
So this is maybe a combination of people.
And he's sort of hiding the real identity.
And this is very kind of traditional with mystical sources.
They like to cover their tracks when it comes right down to it.
But the Naxbandi.
Are this a secret mystical group?
And it seems clear to Bennett that at least some of Gurdjieff's teaching comes directly from that system.
Another thing that they are able to do is say, This is the one person who's the center of the teaching.
And then clearly knowing there's a person two miles away who is also the center to his pupil of the teaching, and there's no other teacher, et cetera.
This is very much how the fourth way is taught as well with Gurdjieff as the center teacher.
So, we have hints here and there that Gurdjieff is doing this.
In Meetings with Remarkable Men, where he's telling a story about how he found the Sarmoon Brotherhood, he talks about meeting the Essenes.
And the Essenes were a mystical group that were around in the time of Christ.
And basically, after Christ did his mission that they had been preparing for, and they also trained John the Baptist, the group.
Became part of kind of Christian mystical tradition.
But the idea that they would be around, say, in the year 1900 is remarkable to say the least.
So there's a thing there with Gurdjieff, he's playing with time and space when he's describing things, and he is attributing them.
He's kind of creating composite situations.
And that is all part of the kind of mystical approach that he has.
It's kind of trickster variety about where those sources come from.
Yes.
Vincognito says, I was hanging out on a Facebook forum with all the current.
Is it Idrisha?
Idrisha?
Nashkabandi Supis.
I never saw such a predictable group of hypnotized normies in my life.
Well, it's interesting.
Shaw's done some interesting books, but I've pointed out before that he did a very tricky thing to Bennett after Gurdjieff died, which is he wrote to him and said, Oh, you know, I'm the teacher Gurdjieff said you were waiting for.
I can teach you all about the next step, basically.
And Bennett was so interested in this.
He said, The only thing you need to do is hand Coombe Springs over to me, which was this incredible center that they had in England.
And, you know, and he was like, I'll take it up a notch.
And so Bennett did this kind of Buddhist thing where he signed it away, you know, no attachment or whatever.
And the first thing that Shaw did was he booted Bennett and all of his people, and then he turned it into like a huge housing complex, you know.
So it's kind of hard.
When work comes up later about Shaw, I always think of that story and I always think to myself, there's too much of a marketing game involved with the whole Idris Shaw side of it.
For me to take that seriously.
I'm sure he's done good historical work around Sufis, but it's stories like that.
And you can always say, well, I taught Bennett a lesson about attachment.
Yeah, but you ripped him off.
Let's get real.
Everyone, you're watching The Dark Journalist Show.
We are going deep here into the Mystery School message, and we're looking at Gurdjieff and Ospensky and the warning and the kind of crisis that we find the world in today, how it echoes out.
From what they were predicting and how, with the fourth way, they were setting up these small groups to survive that societal collapse and build a new world.
That's where they were coming from.
We're going to be taking your questions in the second part of the program.
I'm going to jump in a little further on the sources of Gurdjieff here and then Spensky's very interesting comments about him.
But before I do, what do you got?
Are you, I'm just curious, does Robert Fripp come up tonight at all?
You know, he does.
He's on my list of musicians that were influenced by the fourth way, but.
Yeah, did you have some?
Well, Vin Cognito again said, I think Gurdjieff would have told Fripp to lay off the discipline addiction and just chill out.
What say you?
Well, he went and actually studied at Claremont, which is the last mystery school of the Gurdjieff line that was developed by Bennett in West Virginia.
And it looked like a remarkable place.
It really did.
And he definitely, you know, for me, Fripp in his music, Sometimes, if you really listen to it, you can hear a lot of the kind of objective art that Gurdjieff was talking about.
So, yeah, and he did great work on Bowie's albums too.
All right, Sarmung.
So we've got Nachspand, they make symbols, right?
And they're a holy order.
And then we have Sarmung.
And Sarmung is very interesting.
The translation on that is it means keepers.
It's actually a B symbol and it means keepers of honey, and in this sense, keepers of knowledge.
And that's S A R M O U N G.
This is the brotherhood that Gurdjieff claimed taught him.
And again, the name itself, you know, this is the remarkable thing about Gurdjieff's work.
You're going to find over and over again that he's coming up with stuff that just nobody has put out there or has that access to.
Wasting Vital Energy on Negative Emotions00:02:17
And when we look at the Enneagram, Sarmoon Brotherhood, and these different things, you know, there's no overhang from theosophy or anthroposophy or anything of this nature.
This is all fourth way original.
And so you have to say this in relation to the work of the fourth way and the fourth way system and self remembering and the idea of essence versus personality and chief features and the wheel of eyes and the law of accident.
All these different things that come out in the Gurdjieff work, you're not going to find them anywhere else.
They're very unique.
And they definitely come from a place that you need to work with your body.
And you also need to work from a level where you don't spend energy because you need all the energy that you have to spiritually evolve.
And the idea of you, you know, sort of getting upset about a baseball game or something like that, that's like a waste of that energy.
And there's a number of different things, you know, fights on Twitter, whatever it is.
There's all sorts of different ways, traffic.
And what we have is a cycle over and over of people engaging in this level of identification and wasting that vital energy.
He actually.
In the fourth way, in Search the Miraculous, he compares somebody getting upset and really like having a blowout with somebody to having a factory in which you have an explosion and then it takes three days for the explosion to rebuild, you know, to put everything back together to get the machine back on track.
So he was very fond of saying, you know, I don't want to get rid of human emotion, I want to stop its involuntary manifestation.
Negative emotions.
And so in the Gurdjieff work, negative emotions are actually artificial to the system.
They don't exist.
And so you have normal traditional centers that guide things.
Your moving center is how you learn how to play baseball and how someone teaches you something.
It's in that moving center.
And you have the intellectual center, the emotional center, and all these different facets.
The negative emotional center is artificial completely.
The Transformation from Ordinary to Dignified00:08:37
And so what they do.
In the Gurdjieff work, they repress any kind of negative thought or any kind of negative output intentionally, consciously, in order to achieve the ability to look at it.
And they're aware that it's there.
And so, and they're also aware on a number of occasions, you know, someone like Gurdjieff, who's supposed to be a master himself, he has all kinds of blowouts.
As a matter of fact, he's famous for fighting with people.
But Bennett had noticed when he was watching him, when he would get into a fight with somebody, he could always look over at him and give him a little bit of a look.
It was an act, basically.
And we're going to talk a little bit about what Gurdjieff learned that gave him the ability to shape shift.
This is another thing inside the mystery schools that they have the ability to transform their appearance on the spot.
And there's actually incredibly hardcore stories and witnesses about Gurdjieff doing this exact thing.
One of them I was reading, it's right in Search the Miraculous.
And then there's another one, another account of this.
And Bennett has his own account of this transformation, as does Gurdjieff's doctor at the end, who was treating him and he was dying in the hospital.
And he leaves, and this other guy shows up, and he's totally healthy and he puts his clothes on.
And it's like, what's going on here?
This guy looks 20 or 30 years younger, but he's still Gurdjieff.
So there's something unusual about what he learned there at the Sarmon Brotherhood.
And one of these things had to do with this quality.
But anyway, so I'm going to jump ahead here and just be like, Ospensky is now part of this Gurdjieff group.
He's working with Gurdjieff, and they are seeing Gurdjieff off.
He's getting on a plane, and he's saying, I'm going to come back, you know.
To St. Petersburg, and we're going to continue the groups and stuff.
And so I'm going to take it from here, from In Search of the Miraculous.
This is Ospensky.
This was Gurdjieff's last visit to Petersburg.
I tried to speak to him about impending events, the war, but he said nothing definite on which I could have based my own actions.
A very interesting event took place in connection with his departure.
This happened at the railway station.
We were all seeing him off at the station.
G was standing talking to us on the platform by the carriage.
He was the usual G.
They called Gurdjieff G., we had always known.
After the second bell, he went into the carriage.
His compartment was next to the door, and he came to the window.
He was different.
In the window, we saw another man, not the one who had gone into the train.
He had changed during those few seconds.
It's very difficult to describe what the difference was, but on the platform, he had been an ordinary man, like anyone else, and from the carriage, a man of quite a different order was looking at us, and with quite an exceptional importance and dignity in every look.
And movement, as though he had suddenly become a ruling prince or a statesman of some unknown kingdom in which he was traveling and to which we were seeing him off.
Some of our party could not at the time clearly recognize what was happening, but they felt and experienced in an emotional way something that was outside the ordinary run of phenomena.
All this lasted only a few seconds, and the third bell followed the second bell almost immediately, and the train moved out.
I do not remember who was the first to speak of this transfiguration of G when we were left alone, and then it appeared that we had all seen it, although we had not all equally realized what it was while it was taking place.
But all, without exception, had felt something out of the ordinary.
G had explained to us earlier that if one had mastered the art of plastics, one could completely alter one's appearance.
He said that one could become beautiful or hideous, one could compel people to notice one.
Or one could actually become invisible.
This is really remarkable.
And, you know, it's so often the fourth way work is thought of as so grounded by comparison with theosophy and things like that.
But here he is saying, hey, look, I can be invisible if I want to be.
And so, Ospensky is now considering to himself, what was this?
Perhaps it was a case of plastics, which is this weird term that he's using.
But the story is not yet over.
In the carriage with Gurdjieff, There traveled A, a well known journalist who was at the time being sent away from Petersburg.
This was just before the Russian Revolution.
We who were seeing G off were standing at one end of the carriage while at the other end stood a group to see A off.
I did not know A personally, but among the people seeing him off were several acquaintances of mine and even a few friends.
Two or three of them had been at our meetings, and these were going from one group to the other.
A few days later, in the paper of which A. was a contributor, contained an article on the road in which A. described the thoughts and impressions he had on the way from Petersburg to Moscow.
A strange Oriental he traveled with in the same carriage, who among the bustling crowd of spectators filled the carriage, had struck him by his extraordinary dignity and calm, exactly as though these people were for him like small flies upon whom he was looking from an inaccessible height.
A judged him to be an oil king from Baku.
And in conversation with him, several enigmatic phrases that he received still further strengthened him in his conviction that here was a man whose millions grew while he slept, who looked down on high at bustling people who were striving to earn a living and make money.
And this is a quote from the article.
And again, this is Zespensky looking at Gurdjieff, who's transformed.
And now this journalist encounters this transformed Gurdjieff.
On this train, and tells the story of meeting this incredible oil billionaire.
Quote, and this is from the article by A. My fellow traveler kept to himself also.
He was a Persian, a Tartar, a silent man in a valuable astrakhan cap.
He had a French novel under his arm.
He was drinking tea, carefully placing the glass to cool on the small windowsill table.
He occasionally looked with the utmost contempt at the bustle and noise of those extraordinary gesticulating people.
And they, on their part, glanced at him, so it seemed to me, with great attention, if not respectful awe.
What interested me most was that he seemed to be of the same southern oriental type as the rest of the group of spectators, a flock of vultures flying somewhere into the agorian space in order to tear some carrion or other.
He was swarthy, jet black eyes, a mustache like Zalem Khan.
Why does he avoid and despise his own flesh and blood?
But to my good fortune, he began to speak to me.
They worry themselves a great deal, he said, his face motionless and sallow, in which the black eyes, polite as an oriental, were faintly smiling.
He was silent and then continued, Yes, in Russia at present there's a great deal of business out of which a clever man could make a lot of money.
After another silence, he explained, After all, it is the war.
Everyone wants to be a millionaire.
In his tone, which was cold and calm, I seemed to detect a kind of fatalistic and ruthless boasting which verged on cynicism, and I asked him somewhat bluntly, And you?
What he asked back, do you also want this?
He answered with an indefinite and slightly ironic gesture.
It seemed to me that he had not heard or had not understood, and I repeated, Do you want to make profits too?
He smiled particularly quietly and with gravity.
We always make a profit, it does not refer to us.
War or no war at all, it is all the same to us.
We always make a profit.
Gurdjieff, of course, meant esoteric work, the collecting of knowledge and the collecting of people.
But A understood that he was speaking about oil.
It would be curious to talk and become closely acquainted with the psychology of a man whose capital depends entirely upon order in the solar system, which is hardly likely to be upset, and whose interests for that reason prove to be higher than war and peace.
In this way, A concluded the episode with Gurdjieff, the oil king.
Mr. Gurdjieff Morphing into Different People00:05:31
So this is really interesting Gurdjieff molding himself into these different people and also.
Playing this role and always seem to have people in the palm of his hand.
But he's giving out, you know, these very interesting esoteric facts.
But the plastics, the changing, this is something that we see politically all the time, and it's very unusual when we see the doubles and all the rest.
But this could be a hint about some of those abilities and where they come from, and how, in the hands of very unscrupulous people, this can be pretty dangerous stuff.
This idea of invisibility and morphing comes up in mystery school literature a lot.
But to have someone who's an actual example of it, and to see someone like Ospensky, who's incredibly honest in his descriptions, you know, he always describes the kind of unflattering things about Gurdjieff as well.
But to have him talk about him in this fashion lends that real possibility to us that shape shifting is something very real and something we should be aware of in dealing with the mystery schools.
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Twilight Mist said, I recently saw a YouTube short vid of some black guy imitating.
Famous people like Eddie Murphy and Chris Rock.
His face subtly morphed as he got into character.
Watched it four times, not a trick of the eye.
He looked exactly like a young Eddie Murphy when he got into that character mode.
It was crazy.
Now, doesn't this make some sense?
I'm going to keep going with this theme a little bit.
By the way, this is a shot of Gurdjieff and Ospensky together.
It's the only shot of them together.
And the body language, I think, is quite dramatic.
That is the famous shot, as you know.
And we have a kind of a very steady Gurdjieff, you know, like getting things done and all the rest.
In the back is Zuspensky kind of slumped over.
He's always a little sad and melancholic.
But incredibly deep, as we know.
So here's another story, and it has to do with a student.
And Gurdjieff, at this point, has rented the Priory, which becomes the main center.
In France for the work, and it is the Institute for the Harmonious Development of Man.
But he's having a hell of a time affording this thing because it's large and the students are just kind of getting rolling in.
So, one of the students is talking here and describing the strange story.
C.S. Knott Revenue from our pupils did not cover expenses of the Institute, and no one had the time to earn extra money.
So, Mr. Gurdjieff himself had to find ways to get what was necessary.
One day I had gone to his flat to speak about something when the doorbell rang.
Mr. Gurdjieff told me, That is someone who wishes to buy a carpet.
Go into the dining room and stay there.
I will open the door myself.
The door between the dining room and the sitting room had glass panels, so I could see everything that went on there.
Mr. Gurdjieff went away to open the door, but didn't come back.
Instead, there came in a stranger, and after him, a carpet seller.
They began to bargain.
I was really shocked when I finally realized that the carpet seller was Mr. Gurdjieff himself, totally transformed.
It made me afraid just to see him so.
The stranger bought two carpets, I think, and went away.
When Mr. Gurchiff came into the dining room, I was still so shocked that I couldn't face him directly.
What's the matter with you? He asked.
I can't even look at you, I said.
So, what happens is he basically is like, you know, this guy, if I had been anything but what I transformed into, I never would have been able to sell the carpet.
And, you know, I have to be different things to different people.
To you, I'm a teacher.
To this guy, I'm a carpet seller.
To somebody else, you know, I'm giving a news story.
So, he's talking openly about how he has to morph into these different people.
But again, there's the shock of the person in the, you know, just kind of looking at this.
The doctor's story that I mentioned earlier happens at the end of his life.
And as I said, he was dying in a hospital bed.
And then he goes out into the hallway, and Gurdjieff comes out, but he looks 20 years younger.
He's fully dressed, he looks healthy.
And he walks up to the doctor and is like, I'm checking out.
You know, I don't need to be here.
And the doctor is so amazed because he's, you know, basically thought Gurdjieff was going to die right there.
Gurdjieff, in fact, does die three days later in the same hospital.
But he was able to take whatever.
Plastics and shape shifting, and apply all that to renew himself to come out and present himself to this doctor completely new and ready to go.
Group Work and Spiritual Truths00:15:14
So, we have very interesting qualities that are genuinely supernormal and supernatural that Gurdjieff is exhibiting, which lends so much more heft to all of his teaching in relation to the fourth way.
And it leads us into what people have done with the mystery school version of the fourth way, which has been released out to society.
How has it gone?
You know, we've had some groups spring up.
What was it really all about?
What was it for?
What I've been able to determine about the fourth way is that it was there to create a group of people who could survive societal collapse and a shift in civilization to build a new world.
And this is what we're looking at with so many of the groups.
And what is it that they very often get into?
Well, in anthroposophy, they're not just observing the cosmos.
In Steiner's Anthroposophy, they have biodynamic farming, for example.
Well, biodynamic farming might make the difference between starvation and being able to survive and feed our families, et cetera, in the future and feed humanity.
And it's very interesting because you find this theme over and over again, and it comes up with the Gurdjieff groups as well.
And in Gurdjieff's groups, the idea of group work and cooperation is huge.
In the Casey work, Paramount cooperation.
What's the first rule in the search for God groups among the Casey people?
Well, a lot of people wanted it to be psychic experience, you know, Atlantis reincarnation.
And he made the first rule cooperation.
So, this is a very interesting, you know, kind of key, a hint from the mystery schools, giving us this idea that what it takes really for us to succeed as humanity is cooperation with each other.
And the strangeness around Gurdjieff, the way he comes in with the Enneagram, the shape shifting, with the incredibly unknown system, is again that hint that we're looking at somebody who, in working with the mystery schools, they eventually sent him out on his own and was like, let's see how you do.
This is an early picture that Spensky found and said he figured out, in essence, that at one point Gurdjieff had been a stage magician.
And that this is an early shot before he kind of went off and, you know, became the incredible teacher that he was.
But hypnotism and a lot of that comes up in relation to Beelzebub's tales to his grandson and that whole work, where he talks about the work of Mesmer and the things that Mesmer had developed.
So one of the interesting ways of making a living that Gurdjieff had while he was developing the fourth way was these very wealthy families would hire him to hypnotize someone in the family out of an addiction, a drug addiction or alcoholism or things of this nature.
And he was well known for this, which is why he circulated in these higher circles, eventually winding up as high as the Tsar.
And what's interesting is that some of his students discovered him.
As I said, for example, J.G. Bennett was a British intelligence officer who was spying on Gurdjieff because he was meeting with this Turkish prince and they wanted to know what was going on there.
So Gurdjieff had incredibly high level contacts.
So he utilized this kind of extra quality that he had in those high circles.
And so, by the time he arrives in Moscow to teach the fourth way system, we're only two years shy of the Russian Revolution.
And by the time the Russian Revolution hits, they're completely in chaos.
And they find threads and ways to work.
And he develops small groups.
As a matter of fact, at a certain point, he says, there's no point in having a mystery school group, it's better to have it 100 people or less.
Um, which is interesting, I think it's just a kind of a rule of thumb, not a you know, not an absolute, but it's one of those things which is it seems that they develop the rules and are able to kind of discover these greater spiritual truths working in smaller groups together.
All right, more on this.
I do want to go back to this Pope Francis Enneagram thing.
So Gurdjieff brings out the Enneagram, and now who do we have here?
We've got Pope Francis.
Saying, I'm not against the Enneagram, which is weird enough anyway.
I mean, how obscure has the Enneagram been, except for the fact that it got around as a kind of a personality rating system?
You know, where do you fall on the Enneagram?
You know, are you a boss?
Eight?
Okay, so the article is Is Pope Francis really not against the Enneagram?
Austin Ivory, a journalist with the Catholic news website Crux, has written a post celebrating Pope Francis' 80th birthday.
In which he claims that the Holy Father is not against the Enneagram, though he does have reservations about its misuse.
First of all, why is the Pope even talking about the Enneagram, which is a Gurdjieff creation?
And it's something that he brought out.
So it means the Pope is very aware of the Enneagram through being aware of the Gurdjieff work.
Pope Francis, incidentally, knows the Enneagram well and is not against it, but is wary of the way it can be misused.
And lead to excessive introspection if not deployed within a solid spiritual framework.
Pope Francis, incidentally, knows the Enneagram well.
Well, Pope Francis then is connected with the Fourth Way School.
There's no question about it.
How else would you know the Enneagram well?
Reading about it?
I guess you could be.
On the Enneagram, first of all, I want to say this too that I've read a lot of the Gerges stuff, but I've studied with the groups.
And, you know, it goes back a long time.
And I couldn't, you know, I couldn't figure out how to fit group work into my regular life.
So eventually I stopped working with groups.
But I toured around there for a while and got a hint of what they did.
And I never had any bad experiences with any of the Gurdjieff groups.
Well, maybe not bad.
Right.
Well, there was one snobby group.
But it was interesting because there are things in the book where they go to take on a new pupil and in search of the miraculous, Gurdjieff and Ospensky are sitting there, and Ospensky realizes that Gurdjieff isn't saying anything, and the person is just talking their head off.
And so that's one of the kind of key moments.
And it's interesting because when I went to join one of these groups, I ended up being the guy who was talking while they weren't saying anything.
And I was like, the fact that they weren't saying anything at all, I was like, they couldn't.
I mean, they must know that I've read the book too and would know that scene.
So I'm just going to keep talking until they start talking.
But anyway, it ended up being exactly like that.
And they wanted to show that, you know, they had learned the Ospensky system of being able to be quiet while this other person is rattling off.
So, you know, there were a few things like that.
There are a couple of groups that are just study the movements.
And so the groups I enjoyed the most were the ones who were associated with Bennett, who really emphasized the whole movement aspect of the thing.
And then there's the Gurdjieff Foundation, who just basically kind of go through the work.
And there's the Fellowship of Friends.
That's another one which is interesting and comes in really on the Ospensky.
Uh, side of the thing, so I can't really say much about those groups.
You know, I've spent enough time researching the groups just for my own interest, and that goes with Steiner and Casey and Gurdjieff and all the rest of it.
So, I would say on the Gurdjieff side, um, the idea is you understand that in order to advance in the fourth way, you need other people.
So, if somebody goes and studies the fourth way at home, um, In the book, like reading the books about the fourth way, they're going to get so far, you know, develop a kind of magnetic center in yourself for the attraction of those ideas.
But you can't, unless they're put into play on some level, unless you're working with a group in the fourth way, you can't, you need the energy of the group.
And so that's the nature of the work.
It strengthens the individual, it's not a communal thing in that way.
But in order, for example, there's an exercise there where you're supposed to discover your chief feature.
And each person has a chief feature around which all of their other features orbit.
And sometimes the chief feature is called the chief fault as well.
And so I've told this story before about how I met a teacher who had actually worked with Gurdjieff at the end of his life.
And he was a very abrupt guy.
And I asked him flat out, I said, well, in the Gurdjieff work, what you do is you work in these groups, and because you can't see your own chief feature, Someone else has to see it for you, you know, and that that's what I understand the group work is for.
And he agreed with that.
So that makes a lot of sense to me that it is by working with a group that they can reflect things back to you that you can't see for yourself.
I did ask him though what my chief feature was, and he said you couldn't handle it.
So I never thought that was a limited number of chief features.
Is it, you know, like a list of 20 or something that you could be, or no, no, actually it isn't.
But I will tell you what Gurdjieff.
Told Uspensky his chief feature was extreme individualism.
And it was because of that extreme individualism that, you know, was kind of the catalyst for his life, but it was also the block.
So it all depends.
And after he heard this, Ospensky was like, oh my God, you know, I started to realize I have a much bigger community with the world.
And so it was a kind of a great revelation for him.
But the idea of discovering the chief feature and working with it is kind of a central core aspect.
Of the Fourth Way Schools.
And I think it is one of those unique signatures again of this work.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, whew, deep, deep into the X Series 125 The Mystery School Message with Gurdjieff and Ospensky.
We talked about how Pope Francis is into the Enneagram on record, which I find very, very unusual.
Well, there's somebody else who I don't know if you're going to know who he is or not.
His name is Alexander Dugan.
And he is the main advisor to Putin.
Well, what kind of an advisor?
He's, you know, he's political, military.
He's his chief political advisor.
Okay.
Yeah.
And he's been, you know, he was against the old Soviet Union.
He was a dissident back then.
He has a long, interesting record and he's dabbled in the occult and things of this nature.
However, sitting back there is a huge connection with him and the ideas of.
The fourth way.
So we're seeing that the fourth way mystery schools' ideas, just as Rudolf Steiner has suggested in Anthroposophy, that the mystery schools in America were so steeped in the political process over there that by the time Blavatsky got there, they were way ahead of the whole thing.
They knew that she was coming in and that everything on that level worked from mystery schools of the right hand side, which want to move humanity forward, and mystery schools of the left hand side, which would be like this kind of Crowley.
Ish, you know, side.
And it's talked about extensively in that period of the early 20th century with Steiner, where he's talking about how these two groups are kind of vying and how there's also extreme versions of the right hand side.
You know, that would be like the Great White Brotherhood, for example, which is a holy order.
And White Brotherhood doesn't have anything to do with race, it is the auric color.
And the Great White Brotherhood is sort of the central mystery school of all the mystery schools and has more of a kind of ethereal presence.
It comes up in the Gurdjieff work, it comes up in the Casey work.
Interestingly enough, one of the odd things that Casey said about it was that the main seaport for the White Brotherhood was Virginia Beach, which is why the Casey Foundation was there.
That's interesting considering DC is right there.
So we have these groups behind the scenes who, extreme left, Regular left, extreme right, regular right, which seems to parallel political persuasions, but that's not what they're talking about.
But we have them as this kind of framework in the background, and through people like Dugan, who's giving all of this advice for Putin as a main advisor, well, we've seen it on the presidential level as well.
And I've got a few of those.
And it's interesting to me because one of those is Steve Bannon.
I have a couple of things about Bannon on this, but what's interesting to me about it is Bannon, when he was in the Navy, I brought this up in an episode that we did called Mystery School Politics.
That Bannon has this connection to the Gurdjieff Fourth Way Groups because whenever he was in the Navy, he would make sure that he was docked.
Somewhere close to, and he arranged it that he would be close to a Gurdjieff center or a Gurdjieff bookstore.
And that's, you know, when he's in the Navy around 1980.
So he already has that tie in, but then later he also goes off on these retreats for six months with some of the most familiar kind of Gurdjieff groups.
So he's very, very deep in the essence of that.
We saw General Ray Flynn get into some controversy.
Elizabeth's Prophetic Word and Religious Shifts00:07:12
When he came out and gave a speech and started talking exactly word for word, what Elizabeth Clare Prophet was saying from the Church Triumphant and the Summit House Lighthouse, the Summit Lighthouse, I think is what they call it now.
And Elizabeth Clare Prophet, you know, with St. Germain and this whole movement of Ascended Masters that she worked with and their whole presence in Montana and everything else, she had a very special speech.
And talking to St. Michael.
And it was all about how we're here for you.
And, you know, we take on this aspect in our chakras and the purple ray is with us and everything.
And so we had this spiritual speech by General Flynn.
And what was he reciting word for word?
Elizabeth Claire Prophet's entire speech to St. Michael.
So there we have these crisscrosses.
The more that we understand them, not as just something to, you know, kind of.
Think, oh boy, you know, these are a bunch of occultists.
But it lets us know that these people are operating with knowledge of these secret societies and coming from particular places.
And as I say, in the Gurdjieff work, there's a great benefit for humanity in the Enneagram, in the work, in the self development.
There's a lot of controversy in the Gurdjieff work, just like with any school.
And like, Ospensky splits off from Gurdjieff because he thinks that the ideas in the system he has are unique and perfect, but that Gurdjieff is very imperfect and starts fights with people and does all of these different types of manipulations and things, and also has a tendency to be self destructive in a sense, where as soon as he starts getting his message off the ground, he ruins it.
Now, there's an interesting story I just want to insert here as a side note from one of the early stories that Gurdjieff's early group.
Seekers after truth had found a book and sold it, and they were living off the money and they were doing quite well because they found this rare book.
But he found that everyone in that group had become lazy once they got the money.
So at a certain point, he took all the money together and burned it to give them their edge back, basically.
And it seems to me that I see that pattern over and over again.
As soon as he gets going with the institute or whatever it is, it seems like he burns it down and has to build it back up to keep all of those skills handy.
It would be the equivalent of someone starting a business, making it very famous, and then saying, you know what, I'm going to write it off.
Here it is to charity, and I'm starting a new business.
You know, put me over a barrel of Niagara Falls, and I'm back in six months.
So, but there is something kind of remarkable about that.
And there is a kind of Buddhist, you know, lack of attachment to it that I admire a great deal.
So now that we understand the Fourth Way and Ospensky and Bennett on some level, and its influence, as I said, advisor to Putin, President Trump's advisor, God knows how deep that cycle really goes, Pope Francis, the musicians I were going to name were Kate Bush, who actually does a song about Gurdjieff.
And Robert Fripp, of course, and just found out with Sammy Hagar.
And it's interesting because Sammy Hagar has talked openly about his alien experiences.
Well, apparently, he also had this great interest in Ospensky and the Fourth Way ideas.
So, you know, we just have this kind of kick in these different areas where this idea gets in there, just like.
When we heard about our friend Albert Einstein, when he dies, what do they discover on his nightstand?
They discover Tertium Morganum, which is Uspensky's first book.
I have a quote from Uspensky.
I have a couple of quotes because I want to get into the message and the kind of warning that they've left for us for the 21st century.
And we're going to be taking your questions in part two of this whole thing.
Before I go any further, Miss Olivia.
Beelzebub's Tales to his grandson three times and the third time out loud as Gurjeff instructed.
I have read it three times.
The way to read it out loud is a little bit tricky.
So I haven't read it.
I've read parts of it out loud and it is a weird experience.
But I think that since he laid it down that way, you should do it that way.
The three ways he wanted you to read it was just like you were reading a newspaper, just taking it all in.
Whipping through it.
The second way was to really try to understand it in depth and spend the time with it and work on each chapter, trying to figure out its meaning.
And then the final aspect is to speak of it out loud.
Yeah.
I didn't know this.
Did you know that Bill Murray was a Gurdjieff student in New York City?
No, no.
That's really interesting.
There's a lot of them.
There's a lot of them.
It's funny because Gurdjieff, you know, it would take a very particular type to be drawn to that.
And you wouldn't think entertainers would.
You'd be more drawn to theosophy.
It's more glamorous.
It's more sexy.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
There's a certain strident quality to the work, right?
True.
Very true.
It's a highly disciplined activity.
It's kind of, there's a little bit of a no frills thing where it's sort of hard to impress people because the whole point is to take that ego mask off and deal with each other.
So it's quite interesting.
However, I will say this that when I've gone deep on this, I've found that figures like Marilyn Monroe, for example, Was one of the main anthroposophy people.
When she was in New York, the anthroposophical library there, she was one of the main people coming in for books and things of this nature.
So she was a major student of anthroposophy.
And Elvis, of course, was very, very big into Madame Blavatsky.
Bowie was big into Blavatsky's work.
And You know, I mean, Bowie moved among a number of different things.
You know, one day he would wake up, he'd be a born again Christian, the next day he's a Buddhist, the next day he's into Crowley, the next day he's into Blavatsky.
So he was a voracious reader, but he didn't retain things very long.
He had that short attention span and was like, ah, I don't want to do this anymore, just like with his different guises.
But it is interesting how that influence is throughout society.
And it's not like people walked around saying, hey, I'm really big into Gurdjieff.
But we're finding out, yes.
Adam, Eve, and the Desire for Godhood00:06:01
Okay, we have to follow up on this.
Yeah.
This is great.
So Isaac Marwell says Harold Ramis blamed his falling out with Bill Murray on Gurdjieff.
And of course, you know, they were in Ghostbusters together.
And, um, Groundhog Day, Harold Ramos wrote, which is deeply spiritual.
Well, look, The Strange Life of Ivan Ossikin, which is a novel that Osspensky wrote, is all about recurrence and it's waking up in the same day over and over again.
And in his case, he would do the same life over and over and always get to this point where everything unraveled.
He lost the woman he loved, he missed out on all these different opportunities.
And in the final go round of the book, he meets a magician who says, I can go back.
You can go back, but if you go back, everything will be exactly the same way unless you do things differently.
And I'll show you basically how to do things differently.
It is quite unique.
What's interesting is that there are two other novels that Ouspensky wrote that people generally aren't aware of, really.
They fall through the cracks a lot.
One of them is called The Inventor, and the other one is Talks with the Devil.
And the Talks with the Devil thing is kind of interesting because.
This guy is going, the main character is going to India to study with these gurus, and the devil is trying to kind of throw him off.
And he gets into interesting conversations where he makes the devil tell him things about humanity and how everything happened.
There's a section in this book which is quite interesting.
I'm going to read it here, and it has to do with Adam and Eve, and Noah's Ark comes up here too.
So, The person, the character that the devil is dealing with, playing with, asks, How, according to you, are we mistaken about ourselves?
I even find it hard to explain to you, said the devil.
Your ideas are so confused, I must begin a long way back.
And that old book of yours has written the story of Adam and Eve.
Well, now that story is not correct, and this fallacious theory concerning the origin of man confuses all your subsequent ideas about him.
As for the new theory of the origin of man from protoplasm, it is very witty.
I admit that, but it is even further from the truth.
I will now attempt to tell you.
What really happened?
Adam and Eve are the names of those descended from the Great One.
So they say, I do not know how true it is, but then I do not know that we are sure of anything.
Probably not.
But they say that there was a Great One called the Bearer of Light who fought and quarreled not with heaven but with earth, with matter, with falsehood, and conquered it.
It was not until much later, we said, that he quarreled with heaven.
He rose very high, but they say that in the end he doubted the truth and for a moment he believed in that very falsehood he had been fighting against.
This caused him to fall and be smashed into a thousand pieces, and it is from his descendants that Adam and Eve came.
With the best will in the world, I cannot tell the story any better than that.
You see, it borders on matters I don't understand.
So that's very interesting.
I'm going to skip ahead in this, and again, it's Adam and Eve.
What is said further about Adam and Eve in your book is again incorrect.
It is written that they wanted to be like gods and wanted to know what is good and what is evil.
This is wrong.
Because they were like gods and knew what good was and what is evil.
To us, this was the most unpleasant and frightening thing.
The devil became silent as if he found it difficult to speak.
They were as if stronger than we, he continued.
Of course, all this was fantasy, but we were for them on the level of animals.
They could see us only as animals, and they gave us names corresponding to our qualities.
I'll get around to the point here.
The devil pronounced the last words very unwillingly.
I must also tell you, he continued, that they were not alone on earth.
The earth was inhabited by another race of people.
The descendants of animals.
But nothing is said in your book about this other race.
They were completely in our power and could never get away from us.
But we wanted, above all, to subordinate Adam and Eve.
Their presence embarrassed us.
We could not be sure of anything with them there.
You see, they gave us the impression that at any moment they could make the whole world disappear.
They said that nothing existed and everything was merely a dream and that it was possible to wake up and find everything gone.
That's some of the depth of Ospensky using this kind of esoteric line, but also interesting because this second race, the second line, comes up in the Cain and Abel story as well.
And when we get into Casey's work, we get into the things or these beings that the Atlanteans created that were basically like cyborgs in some ways or half animal, half man.
And Casey called them automatons and said that actually, when the Atlanteans came into Egypt, they brought this group of slaves who did everything for them.
And this inspiration, this interesting story out of the Casey work, gives us a lot about what they've been doing in relation to transhumanism, trying to get that branch of humanity to just be in servitude to them to the point where that branch doesn't even have a gender and so can't procreate.
For example, this is going to be interesting as we see the correlation between Casey's description of the things and we look deeply as we go into the minds of the transhumanists and the World Economic Forum types.
Steganography Secrets in Tertium Organum00:04:29
And one of the things I want to say about Elon as well is that he's deep, deep in the transhumanist soup.
So when people get into all this elation around the Twitter thing and all the rest of it, you got to kind of remember that that is a whole system.
That's coming in, and that anytime somebody does something, they're not acting really independently.
They're part of a system of activity, of consultants, and all the rest.
So that's something to consider as we go along here.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show.
This is X Series 125.
And, you know, we actually have surpassed 150 episodes of the X Series because we've had a lot of part twos and supplementary episodes.
So that's pretty interesting.
125, 150.
And there's a great deal of material there brought forward on the mystery schools and on steganography, et cetera.
And as I said, Uspensky is great around steganography, he understands it quite well.
So, the book that Einstein had on his nightstand when he died was Tertium Organum.
Tertium Organum, A Key to the Enigmas of the World.
That is Uspensky's book.
And it became a really popular book, actually.
It became something of a breakthrough in the period because it had enough theosophy in it that people were interested, but it was before Steiner really hit in full force.
And it's before all the Gurdjieff period.
So we get a snapshot again of Uspensky and his great genius.
A couple of things that border on steganography that are brought up in the book on page 118.
This is just a brief quote from Uspensky to get us into the head of that.
The scientist who finds tablets with hieroglyphs or wedge shaped inscriptions from an unknown language decipheres and reads them after a great deal of work.
And in order to read them, he needs only one thing.
He must know these signs represent writing.
As long as he regards them as mere ornament, an external embellishment of the tablets, or an accidental design unconnected with any meaning, their significance and meaning will remain completely closed to him.
But as soon as he presupposes the existence of this meaning, the possibility of grasping it arises.
Every cipher can be read even without any key, but one must know that it is a cipher.
This is the most first and indispensable condition.
Without it, nothing can be done.
So, you have to know that something is steganography in order to be able to read it, a cipher in this case.
And so, there's a lot in there on tertium organum.
I've done enough quotes on that one.
But so, we're getting into that understanding that Ospensky is giving us.
When we come up against the symbolism, if we can understand that it's symbolism, it's very easy to unlock.
The code, so we have to find our ability to discern now.
Um, some of the things I've brought forward on this in relation to the X steganography, for example, all the big rush of things that come forward sorting out what's steganography and what's you know they're just using as X.
It is remarkable the actual uh promotion and the proliferation of X. You know, there's disease X, suddenly there's citizen X. SpaceX.
And so we're deep in that X steganography piece.
So, my suggestion really is the show and so many of the things we bring forward give us that ability to dissect and really discern that end of the symbology.
And so we do become better at picking out what those things are.
And that's where we're getting, that's what Ospensky is saying is the key quality that we need to be able to do that.
Yes, we got.
Walter Bosley is in the chat tonight.
Series question.
Within a context of Hollywood as a conduit of societal black magic, was Uspensky related to Maria Uspenskaya, an original student of Stanislavski, who became a teacher of actors?
The Fourth Way's Vibrance Through Ospensky00:11:04
Uspenskaya is a feminine derivative of Uspensky.
Maria did the old Universal horror films, too.
Oh, isn't that interesting?
Well, you know, I have to say that with Uspensky, his wife was much older.
Than he was in past childbearing age.
But the idea that there may be, as Gurdjieff had multiple children, and you see these relatives of Gurdjieff pop up in the most unusual places.
But the name is interesting because, of course, Pyotr Demyanovich Uspensky, the name in its Russian form is definitely.
Plays out differently.
So, this is interesting in relation to this woman.
And, you know, when I think about his relatives and things, I know that, for example, he had a sister, but when he was in Russia, she was taken into a Russian political prison camp.
And she was called a, you know, kind of a political agitator.
And interestingly enough, in the book, Strange Life of Ivan Osakin, he goes and he visits her in the jail.
And it's a sad thing because one day he shows up there and she's been taken away and he learns later that she's dead.
So, that one, I don't know, but it would be very interesting to find out if, in fact, that had happened.
Of course, he did come over here, and it is in New Jersey, and this huge farm in New Jersey that Ospensky made his kind of major claim.
I think it's called Mendham, and that was his major center here in America.
And, of course, with all the work that Gurdjieff and Ospensky did in New York, Offshoots of the Uspensky family being here in America and making their way to California.
It's interesting, too, because Gurdjieff himself set up an entire institute in Taos, New Mexico.
And what happened was there was someone helping him do that who was out of Washington, D.C.
It was a senator.
And the senator went down in a plane crash in 1927, I think the year was very early on.
And what happens as a result of that is the center.
For the Gurdjieff Center in Taos never comes to be because he needed that political clout that was coming in with the senator.
So there's a lot of weird things there in relation to Gurdjieff in America.
Also, the fact that while he was in New York and gave those first demonstrations of the stop exercise and the dancers, he doesn't have, he always has problems over and over again establishing things well in America.
And it's always in France or England, that he gets the best results.
But certainly they were here and through A.R. Arraj, who was the person who coined the term New Age for his magazine in 1912.
Arraj sets him up, and there are all these groups that are still left over from that period when Gurdjieff was here in America in the 20s and 30s and doing all this activity.
So there is definitely a lot of tie over.
And the groups in America now are pretty plentiful.
Yes.
Josh is asking, has DJ looked into the connection between the Enneagram and Tesla's 369 vortex math?
Both share the 369 triangle.
Yeah, there's a terrible amount of interesting mathematics in relation to the Enneagram and the Tesla aspect.
I feel there was, you know, I've heard this before that they were such contemporaries that the idea that Tesla never met with Gurdjieff is rather extraordinary.
But Tesla was enough of a difficult person, I think, to tie down.
It's interesting.
There's no proof that they ever met, but when you think about the correlations, they're remarkable.
And I wanted to say, in relation to Walter Bosley's question, also, I'm going to have Walter back on the show here soon because he's done some remarkable work, some new stuff that he has coming up.
And I want to bring him on that level deep on Nimza.
And the extraordinary work he's doing as well.
So, we're looking forward to that.
Yes.
Jens Engelsgaard, any comments on the seven rays, Alice Bailey and the Tibetan Masters?
Yeah, this is the interesting thing.
It's the second level, always.
And I've tracked the second level.
If you go from the main characters, for example, Blavatsky on Theosophy, Steiner on Anthroposophy, and Gurdjieff on The Fourth Way, and then, say, the Casey work, if you go into the things that developed out of them, it seems like they have stepped down a level in terms of what we can get out of it the originality, the depth, the connection itself to a mystery source.
So, when you go from Gurdjieff Ospensky to Bennett, he dealt directly with them.
So, there's still a kind of a vibrance through the work of Ospensky.
But it seems like that energy goes out once we lose Bennett and the teachers that are still around, I mean, that had a connection, they make that impact.
I have a quote about the fourth way, which might give us a hint.
And this is not to avoid things on Bailey, but fundamentally, I guess what I feel is that Bailey is sort of a second level.
Um, you know, I don't get the same depth as you do in traditional theosophy, even the Basant phase of the work after Blavatsky is very dynamic.
There's a lot of things to follow up on, even with the mistakes of Krishnamurti.
And Krishnamurti does a lot of interesting stuff once he gets out of theosophy, right?
So, uh, that's quite fascinating.
And by the way, Krishnamurti was around Uspensky a lot, he attended his groups on a regular basis, so did Aldous Huxley.
Huxley was trying to get into the Gurdjieff Institute a lot.
Very interesting, Christopher Isherwood, Gerald Hurd.
I mean, an incredible literary group there in France came around the Gurdjieff work.
And, you know, it's interesting because when we look at Hemingway and all the things that we've brought out about Hemingway as well, we also have Hemingway there studying with some very esoteric types.
I haven't found Hemingway crisscrossed with Gurdjieff yet, but, you know, they're all in that same circle.
I mean, Hemingway certainly knew Huxley, so it's pretty easy to imagine all those people getting together.
Hemingway wasn't in such a great spot when he got to Paris, so maybe he didn't have the time to hang out with those guys.
But here's what Gurdjieff said about the fourth way and how we can understand it, because it's a little bit different in terms of its structure.
And this is the thing about schools in general they come out and they kind of spread seeds and then they go back.
And then they see what happens with the seeds that they've spread around.
And this is how the mystery schools operate in the public sphere so that they don't kind of dominate the scene and, like, hi, I'm a mystery school, I'm taking over.
Quote When this work is finished, that is to say, when the aim set before it has been accomplished, the fourth way disappears.
That is, it disappears from the given place, disappears in its given form, continuing perhaps in another place, in another form.
Schools of the Fourth Way exist for the needs of the work which is being carried out in connection with the proposed undertaking.
They never exist by themselves as schools for the purposes of education and instruction.
There's no, you know, fundamental structure for the mystery schools.
They are there to do a particular type of work, they assemble in a certain type of form, and then they disassemble and go back.
So it's interesting to me because they leave a legacy.
And yes, we, you know, we have groups that are the.
Kind of traditional lineage of anthroposophy.
We have the Gurdjieff Foundation is traditionally it.
But what Gurdjieff is saying here is these types of groups are unusual in that they exist for a certain window of time to make a certain impact.
Now, what he says is when the aim set before the school has been accomplished, the fourth way disappears.
So, the aim of the school in this case, in Gurdjieff's case, what was it?
Was to bring out these ideas to the public.
And the next thing was for the public to use those ideas to do what?
To survive.
Societal collapse to build a new world, a new way of doing things.
And they saw the menace of industrialization, you know, the scientific discoveries, the atomic wars.
They saw the threat of this entire thing lingering there.
And so those groups came out and infiltrated into the culture and said, here are the ideas that we've kept all these years.
This seems like a kind of a point in time where you're going to need them.
So the question that I want to ask all of us is how have we done?
With all of these ideas that they've put out?
How is the culture done with assimilating the work of Casey and Gurdjieff and Steiner and the concepts that they've brought forward in theosophy?
And that includes not in one uniform slab, not in one uniform line, but in general, you know, so psychic experience, reincarnation, spiritual experience, a relationship to God, you know.
All the different ideas and aspects, the etheric realms, the spiritual realms, you know, the astral plane, these types of things are all things that were brought out of these mystery schools into the public so that we could know and learn.
Now, if some group, for example, you know, very often they'll say, oh, the Nazis took the swastika from theosophy and all the rest, you know, it's not that a group won't misuse what somebody does, you know, but somebody can misuse the Casey work.
That doesn't Lesson what the Casey work is.
So I think that the thing is the question for us is here we are in that window that the mystery schools have talked about.
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It's 100 years later.
And they said that there was a window there.
Steiner did specifically in 1920.
He said in 100 years, this whole window is going to open up again because, in his opinion, the mystery schools had failed because of World War I.
And he said, but anthroposophy is going to come back.
Spiritual science will have another shot in 100 years.
I don't know where that cycle comes from.
But it's very interesting because for someone like that to go out there with a prediction like that, I think shows us the critical nature of the era and the period that we're in.
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We're here going deep in episode 125.
This is Mystery School Message, and it is World in Crisis, Gurdjieff and Ospensky, and that fourth way message lingering across time.
We're going to be taking your questions.
Actually, it's later than I thought.
We'll take your questions now, and I'll plug the other stuff in.
Okay, Melissa Klawiorda says.
Gertrude Stein Gurjeff connection, I believe, to Hemingway.
Yes, Gertrude Stein was the one who, thank you for pointing that out.
And there's a weird JFK connection there, too, because Gertrude Stein, there's a whole thing about Gertrude Stein and leaving him letters when he was at Harvard.
So we've got a big connection there with Stein.
But then when she goes to Paris, she is the one who guides Hemingway through these different circles.
And she certainly was more than capable on the esoteric side.
And what was it that she said, you know, I couldn't, I just could not get Hemingway to shut up about mystical subjects.
He was interested in everything that had to do with psychic nature, life after death, all these different things.
Hemingway had a great fascination for the whole part.
And you'd think with the tragedy that he'd lived through with his dad committing suicide, some of that.
Is probably in there.
But as we know, Grace Hall Hemingway was very close friends with Edgar Cayce.
So, you know, it's not too hard to imagine when he gave readings for Hemingway, you know, so it's pretty obvious that Ernest is already on that psychic train.
Yes.
Okay.
What do you got?
Deborah Blair.
Gurdjieff had a group in Westport, Connecticut, his quote, bastard daughter living on Newtown Turnpike.
Old artist Westport had many mystery schools and hot zone Jessup Green.
Interesting.
Wow.
I have heard about this.
There's been a few things about Gurdjieff and his children, but there are a few of his children who have actually picked up the torch from there.
But we know Westport is a very interesting location for something like that.
So that is fascinating.
So, what was Gurdjieff a guru?
We could call him that.
And Gurdjieff, you know, many gurus.
Play around with their acolytes, and they said that this is part of the problem that Aspensky had with him.
Um, you know, you're going to make me grab something on this, which is in the beginning of the inventor book, there is an introduction by J.G. Bennett to it, and he talks about his own conversations with Aspensky about Gurdjieff.
You can't find this anywhere else except in this intro, and um.
This kind of gives us maybe the answer to what you're saying.
Ospensky was, however, entirely unable to follow Gurdjieff through the final stages of his work.
The reasons for this are not relevant to the present book, but the outcome was that after giving Gurdjieff his full support up to that time of his going to America in 1923, he entirely changed in 1924 while Gurdjieff was still in America.
So Ospensky said, No, Maas, I can't do this anymore.
Gurdjieff was still in America.
From that time until the end of his life, he had no direct communication with Gurdjieff.
Though he remained passionately interested in everything Gurdjieff was doing.
After his break with Gurdjieff, Spensky returned to his earlier writings and made a compilation of what he published in 1929 A New Model of the Universe.
I'm trying to find that little section where he talks about why he broke with him.
Let's see here.
But anyway, what he says is, I don't understand.
He said, Bennett's like, look, you know, I don't understand.
If you had all these problems with Gurdjieff, why didn't you leave earlier?
And Uspensky says, You don't realize how extraordinary Gurdjieff was.
He was like the key to all the mysteries that I'd been searching for.
So, what happens is then one time when they're drinking together, he says, Well, I don't understand that.
How did you ever convince yourself to leave Gurdjieff?
You know, like, what did he do that was so bad?
And Uspensky said to him, Look, if you had a family member, And it turned out that he was a criminal.
What would you have done?
So he didn't say Gurdjieff was a criminal.
He was trying to give him the answer.
So, some people have suggested that, and Bennett himself suggests that, you know, Ospensky was kind of puritanical.
When he found out that Gurdjieff had many wives and things of this nature, then, you know, he was really kind of puritanical about it.
But also, some people have suggested that when he learned that Gurdjieff had spied, had been a spy, and that that's part of the reason he was spied on his whole life, then that that was something he had a problem with because he was like, wait a minute, you're teaching this mystery doctrine.
But you're a political spy.
But no one knows exactly what it was.
Well, the fact that his sister was imprisoned and died in prison could have made him more sensitive to the spying aspect.
That's true.
That's very true.
I think it's interesting because it's anecdotal and it's not the kind of thing that Gurdjieff, that Aspensky would talk about.
He basically.
Made it a rule that people could not gossip about him and Gurdjieff in his groups.
I do have something from his autobiography on this.
This is pretty interesting.
At the end of his life, Uspensky says, he comes forward to all the groups he's been teaching so many years the Gurdjieff system, and he said, there is no system.
So, meaning, I want you to break through on your own.
And just forget about the system and all the teachings.
I want you to break through into something else.
He had arrived at a point where he realized he had taught this system and that the system contained all these incredible esoteric truths, but that there was some key that Gurdjieff had left out in all of it.
This is Gurdjieff, this is Ospensky at the end of his life.
So, what his suggestion to his students is this begin with a few people.
People only must know to some extent what they want and must have courage courage to experiment.
Get material from people, from this material, real facts, real questions.
We begin to reconstruct.
Something has changed for you.
You have got something.
The system, as I learned it, was Gurdjieff's.
But what you can understand in your own experience is yours.
No one can take it from you.
From this, you can reconstruct.
So there's a tinge of bitterness in there about how Gurdjieff dealt with him, and also that there was something in that system fundamentally.
Itself that he felt had been left out.
I think that it's quite interesting and it gives us a hint there.
Now, also from this autobiographical fragment, which was never published, but it's in something called a further record, he says this In the summer of 1918, I began to feel that I had ceased to understand Gurdjieff or his views had changed, and I found it necessary to separate Gurdjieff and the system of which I had no doubt.
But it did not help very much.
So, in the end, I broke it off with Gurdjieff.
In January 1920, I left Russia for Constantinople and stayed there for about a year and a half.
Constantinople was then full of Russians.
I began lectures there on psychology on my travels, and in the summer of 1920, I met Gurdjieff, who had come there from Tiflis.
I tried to work with him again, but soon found it impossible for the same reasons as before.
In August 1921, I left Constantinople for London.
I started my lectures.
My lectures in London and met many people interested in the same kind of ideas.
In February 1922, Gurdjieff visited London.
He then lived in Germany.
I was still very interested in his work, but this time I was very firmly decided to stand apart from Gurdjieff and went to France.
I helped him in many ways to organize his work there, and in 1922 and 1923, I went many times from Paris to Fontainebleau, where he'd set up the Institute.
At the end of 1923, I found that I could not remain connected with Gurdjieff because I ceased to understand him completely, and I broke with him finally in January 24.
So we have some foundational pieces that.
There's an inconsistency in Gurdjieff, and Ospensky starts to see it and he starts to separate out the system, which he believes in completely of the fourth way, from Gurdjieff, who he doesn't always understand.
And he may have some objection to Gurdjieff's conduct.
That's what I think the thrust of that is.
Yes.
Do you think also he's kind of an orderly man, right?
Gurdjieff is full of drama, he's a trickster, right?
And I can imagine at first, you give him the benefit of the doubt, but as time goes on, If his own nature is, he must have thought to himself, Is this really necessary?
Isn't this a distraction?
All of this drama, all this personality jazz, right?
Yes.
Did he ever mention anything like that?
He called it acting.
And he said that Gurdjieff would put a group together and then they'd be doing really great.
They'd do this very serious work for six weeks.
And then Gurdjieff would say, I'm out of here.
I'm not doing the work anymore.
You're not doing it.
You can go and do whatever you need to do, whatever.
And so he would let them down.
But there's something about that also, which is he may have been creating struggle for them that could have been part of the teacher's role.
Here's another weird fact.
When Bennett went back further into the Nakhshband to find out the origins of Gurdjieff, he found out that there was a group of teachers there who worked under the way of blame.
And that is, they intentionally take on this mantle where you're going to cast aspersions on them.
And it's part of their working things out.
You know, this is the role that they take on, that they're going to be villainized in a sense.
So that seems like the kind of footsteps that Gurdjieff had walked in.
It seems very clear that Gurdjieff, when he was in the mystery schools, when he came out and had this incredible experience captured by Uspensky in In Search of the Miraculous, that it's the mystery schools putting this person out there with a mystery school message.
And it's having an incredible impact on people and having them develop in remarkable ways, you know, about understanding who they are, about their own awareness and their relation to the cosmos and all sorts of things.
The work that's in the In Search of the Miraculous is so rich that it's an entire complex system that Gurdjieff obviously brought directly out of the mystery school.
So you're always going to find there's some failings with people generally.
You know, people are going to look back on certain types of teachers with, you know, and say, well, they had this inconsistency here, here, and here.
But what did they do?
Like, what did he accomplish by the end?
He really had accomplished part of his mission.
But I think Ospensky felt, had that sense, oh my God, like this thing was the real thing.
We can really open it up and connect to the mystery schools and all the rest.
And instead, what happened is he determined that Gurdjieff must have lost.
Contact with the Mystery Schools, and that somehow he was a branch of this effort, and that they had ultimately left him on his own.
Yes.
Hilly Caper, please explain Gurdjieff versus Rasputin.
Yeah, that's interesting, and there's anecdotes around it, but basically, he was brought into the court of the Tsars as a counterpoint to Rasputin.
And There's not a lot of material available about it.
I mean, there's a few weird things like that.
For example, he went to school with Stalin also.
You know, so he's moved in remarkable circles.
The, you know, when Bennett was spying on him, again, he was dealing with this Turkish prince.
And there are all these rumors that FDR, when he was just before he assumed the presidency, Had gone to the Institute in France because he had heard that Gurdjieff had great healing abilities and he had a number of health issues.
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So there's an incredible tie over.
Of course, there's the classic Alistair Crowley shows up at the Institute and stays there for a week, and then Gurdjieff is like, You have to leave.
You know, like you're a bad vibe, dude.
You know, so he has these incredible encounters along the way.
And when he comes to America, like I said, Frank Lloyd Wright and other intellectuals just clamor around this.
Remarkable thing because the teaching is remarkable.
And I know we've talked a little bit about the fights and the battles that they've had, but I can tell you that when you study esoteric literature, there's almost nothing like the fourth way.
It is a way to understand different sides of yourself and develop an aim and develop an eye.
And one of the great things that's a revelation in the system is that each individual has a wheel of eyes and that in the ordinary Way of doing life, this post industrial world, different things that happen from the outside, different shocks turn that wheel of eyes to a different person.
So, you know, you enjoy yourself at a particular outing for this or that, you get angry at this or that, you know, all these things are triggering you, and that you don't have any individual control over any of these things.
And that the idea was that people spend a great deal of unnecessary energy and that they needed that energy for spiritual evolution.
Therefore, You had to understand and work with a system that would help you to become a very self sufficient vessel for developing those things.
And that included, you know, a discipline that, in a way, is holy in a sense, because by not engaging with negative thoughts, by not engaging in negative activities, you were actually becoming a better person by learning these things, which is the goal of the whole point, anyway.
Ultimately, just, you know, if you learn a whole mystical system and it makes you a greedy, Person with delusions of grandeur, then something has gone wrong.
And you find that in a lot of different systems, right?
Everybody gets very hung up on this.
And I think that Gurdjieff was aware of it.
In the Casey system, they talk about attunement and service.
I think this is an incredible realization that Casey has, which is the attunement, and this is what everybody kind of runs around after the psychic experience, the meditation.
Those things, that's the one big thing, but it's the fulfillment of the attunement is service.
That's the balance between the two.
And service comes down to a lot of different things, you know, obviously.
But if you have the attunement without the service, it's like a pot overboiling with, you know, it's just, it becomes something counterproductive ultimately.
So when you get into areas like the esoteric and psychic experience and things like that, it's best to know what your aim is all about.
That's a big fundamental in the great book.
Okay.
And we discussed this before, and unfortunately, The ideas room has been so busy tonight, I haven't been able to follow much of your presentation.
So, what is in the work in Gurdjieff's cosmology, right?
Why are we here?
How did we come to be here?
What is the point of human life?
And how do we get out of here?
How do we graduate?
Is that the point of existence here to get out of here to escape?
Yeah, it's a very, very interesting question.
And I think what's interesting about this is that.
Gurdjieff wants to lead us into the question.
I don't think he wants to answer it.
So there is a cosmology.
You mean people would commit to the work without him presenting these facts?
Well, he's presenting so many deep ideas.
And, you know, if the idea is your aim is to not be a slave to all the laws that we're under on Earth, then you're going to find a lot of those answers.
For me, I need a beginning and an end.
I can, you know, no matter what comes up in the middle, but I need that.
I need those bookends.
To understand what I'm up to, yeah, it's certainly.
I think the work is so rich that, see, I think what happens is in the fourth way work, they try not to be predictable because when you do things that are predictable and say, you know, you do this and this line, you'll get this and this result, or, you know, here's an origin story in the Adam and Eve kind of thing, then you're using in the work what they call the formatory apparatus.
It is a predictable.
Mechanical activity of learning.
So, I think the idea of the fourth way is to put you in enough of a different situation that you see things differently.
So, there is a worldview in there where Gurdjieff talks about the kunda buffer and how humanity sees things in an upside down fashion and how there's the necessity for awakening from sleep.
So, he gives you, he lays out what is required for someone to awaken.
But I think the pure cosmology, you know, he talks about all one infinite, and this is this version of God.
And he talks about the different cosmos system.
Sometimes he talks about Earth like, you know, it's almost a marooned place, which is very interesting.
But why?
How?
How did it come to be?
I need to know.
I think this is the nature of the schoolwork, right?
Do you think that he knew?
Do you think that information was given to him?
I think this is exactly the story that he went out looking for.
Remember, his father had memorized the Epic of Gilgamesh before it was discovered.
So when he was a kid, he knew it by his father saying it.
When they found the Epic of Gilgamesh, he matched it up.
It was exactly what his father had said.
So they had a tradition, an oral tradition of that history of the Epic of Gilgamesh from Samaria long before they actually found the thing.
So he understood that the traditions that he was coming out of knew something that the culture on the top didn't.
So the deep secrets were there.
What he learned at the Sarmon Brotherhood, I'm sure there were things that he couldn't reveal under secrecy from being in the school.
There's no question about it.
That's how the mystery schools operate.
However, I think his mission was to bring these principles out.
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Miss Olivia.
So, could you talk a little bit about essence and why that's so important versus personality?
Yeah, essence is a big key in the Gurdjieff work, and it is developed through attention.
And your level of knowledge is balanced off against your level of being.
And so, your essence has this quality.
To it.
And unless you have developed your being to a certain level, you can't hold certain types of knowledge.
So I remember there was a case or a story where they asked him who that you knew had the most highly developed being and just that you've come across in everyday life.
And he said it was a soldier during the Turkish Armenian War who was so fixated on his post, he had to use such a level of concentration that his level of being.
Developed dramatically by using that quality of attention.
So it gives us some hint, some idea.
And then personality is this kind of overlay.
It's the secondary factor.
It is a buffer against all of these different emotions and circumstances you find yourself in.
And buffers is another major piece that you find in the Gurdjieff work, which is not really explored.
In a way, the Gurdjieff work is a combination of deep psychology and deep spirituality because it has all these aspects that.
That involved, you know, working out almost triggered reactions and, you know, automatic functions, automatic reactions to different scenarios.
And when we're looking at that, I think what you see is, you know, Ospetsky calls it the psychology of man's possible evolution.
It's that it's not that we ordinarily are going to evolve, we take the choice spiritually to say, I want to know.
You know, I want to know and be and understand my aim in living.
And, you know, in the great Greek mystery school, when you walk in over the top, it says, Know thyself.
This is the crux of all the mystery schools across the board.
Yes.
So I'm going to reinterpret this from the kind of things that I've studied.
So ultimately, fantasy is about hope or desire versus fear, right?
So it's you're thinking, you're, you're, You know, that is the opposite of essence.
You're not really present.
You're in your mind.
You're not embodied.
You're not in your heart because you're in fantasy land, you know, either in the past or the future.
And so when I think about somebody with essence, I think about like a spiritual master, they're just present.
They're not in their mind.
They're not thinking about the past.
They're not thinking about the future.
And they're not thinking about fantasies of what could be, what might be, good or bad, right?
They are just.
Present and they're fearless.
That's it.
So, is essence about overcoming fear so that you can be truly present in the moment and be responsible to the moment, whatever comes up?
I think that that's really true.
There's an interesting thing about fantasy.
Again, it's discouraged a lot in the Gurdjieff work because, but it's again, it comes down to involuntary manifestation of the thing.
So, if you.
Are easily upset, for example, you lose a great deal of energy that you can use for other things.
Now, you know, if you want to get upset about something, you could be choose to get upset about something.
But if you can't, if you just get upset, then that's a totally different level of control and function over your body and your mind and your emotional center.
So these get us, this kind of gets us into deep territory in looking at the psychology of what makes somebody, you know, A good person, what makes somebody manipulative, what makes somebody a liar, what makes somebody fearlessly honest.
You know, there are different types that are involved.
So, one of the things in the fourth way system I find interesting is that all the different types are represented in Christ's disciples.
I find that very interesting because it seems like the same thing of the zodiac is operative there because, again, in astrology, you're dealing with types.
So, I think the idea of fantasy and why it's discovered is not that if somebody has a lofty artistic dream, they shouldn't pursue it.
It's more along the lines of flights of fancy and certain types of daydreams that can drain your energy.
And the other thing there is too can somebody prevent themselves from having those types of fantasies, or are they in such a hypnotized state?
There's a chapter in Search of the Miraculous where Spensky comes back from doing all this intense work.
With Gurdjieff, and he's walking along the streets, and he can see that all the people are dreaming.
And at a certain point, he starts to see the dreams that they are themselves dreaming, whatever it happens to be.
So it's a very mystical experience for him.
But what's interesting to me about that is all of us are walking around in some kind of a layer against the reality, and we're working with our associative mind, working things out.
For example, Very often, when I want to work things out, I'll take a walk because there's a whole associative process that you can get through when you do that.
But that attention, the self remembering aspect that's in the system, the way that they drew it was it has one arrow looking out at the world and it has one arrow looking back at yourself.
So, therefore, you're holding that awareness of yourself and your situational awareness while you're doing your thing.
So, you're not caught up in thinking, well, you know, I have to pick up so and so at the airport.
You know, you're not.
It's not, um, you're not in your associative mind, and a lot of the tasks that they would do you know, these intellectuals would show up at Gurjas Foundation and they would expect to have these incredible discussions and things like that,
which sound quite nice, but instead he would say, You know, like we have a lot of work to do to set up the dinner, like everybody's going to work on this stuff together, and um, he would also say, While you're working on the thing, don't be thinking about You know, your family, or don't be thinking about the journal you have to publish or anything like that.
Be right there, present with the task of what you're doing.
There's an energy change that takes place when those things are operative.
So, that for me is a big key to how this work operates and why somebody who's really good at work can learn how to not be mechanical.
And that's a crucial aspect because so many of the things, especially that we're surrounded by in technology, look at Twitter.
Twitter instantly makes you shut off your reasoning to a certain degree.
Speaking of Twitter, yes.
Yazidi Techniques and Energy Projection00:15:20
Okay.
So, We have requests to get back into shapeshifting.
Ah, sexy topic.
Caritas Tarot.
So, are we thinking David Icke shapeshifting royals to lizards are the lower example of this skill?
And Jay Mallet says, We have all met shapeshifters.
We just don't have the they live sunglasses.
You know what's weird about all this?
When I was reading, talk about crisscross.
This happens with the X series all the time.
When I was reading Peggy Noonan's description of Putin, She starts talking about how before he was reptilian and strategic.
Whoa.
And I was like, reptilian?
That's kind of a weird thing to say about somebody.
So instantly, when you said Ike, I thought Peggy Noonan.
Yeah, apparently, when you reach a certain level, and unfortunately, the way the schools work is you have the good schools and you have the bad schools.
And the mystery school techniques that we're talking about have to do with the right hand path schools, that is, the schools that want to promote humanity.
There's a lot of schools that don't.
So, but they both have access to these skills.
And the idea that you could actually morph yourself into looking like something else at will is definitely super normal, supernatural.
This gets into it, though, because there's a story about Bennett and Gurdjieff, which I also find interesting on this track, which is when he first comes to.
The Institute, Bennett says, Gurdjieff says, What is it that you want to do?
He says, I want to learn how to astrally project.
I've read so much about astral projection.
I want to know how to do it.
And Gurdjieff said, That's easy.
Here's a little technique.
Go in that room for 30 minutes and you'll do it.
And so he goes in there.
He uses the Gurdjieff technique and nothing happens.
And so Gurdjieff checks in on him and says, What's going on?
How did it go?
And he says, Nothing happened.
He's like, What?
No, no, just do it again.
Trust me.
Stick with it and really do it this time.
So he leaves, and lo and behold, Bennett starts to astral travel, and he finds himself up in the corner by the ceiling, looking down at his own body.
He's like, This is incredible.
I have no idea.
And Gurdjieff opens the door, looks at him sitting there, and then looks up at his astral body.
It's like, Huh, you know, closes the door and checks out.
So the skills that he developed, his abilities learned directly out of the mystery school, shape shifting, astral projection, all that stuff, it seems almost like a secondary characteristic when you get at a certain level.
And so you might use those techniques to get you out of tight situations.
But I think it is very unusual.
And what's interesting is these aren't just far flung stories.
I mean, the people who tell them are people who knew him well.
So something weird was really going on there.
Yes.
Jordan Banner is asking Is the shape shifting due to mind control or actual physical changes?
And Najat Madri says Is it too far to say?
That the wrong and maybe even some right people have this hidden knowledge in this battle for humanity?
Wait, read the Najat one again?
Is it far to say that the wrong and maybe even some right people have this hidden knowledge in their path for humanity?
They definitely both have.
Yeah, it's not like one side has it more than the other one.
They certainly both know it.
It's the application that's different, right?
And that goes along just like with the development of nuclear energy, for example, as an energy source versus trying to bomb somebody with it.
It's the application that really makes the difference.
Fundamentally, Casey said the wisdom of the sages was application.
It's what you do with the thing that you know.
So, but that's very interesting when you get into it.
The shape shifting part and the hypnosis, there is a piece with Madame Blavatsky that pertains to her ability to change scenarios, to change.
I don't know.
I don't have a story of her changing her appearance.
I'm sure she did.
But she could manifest objects, books, fruit, things of this nature.
And what Alcott said was she had the ability to teleport and to do these things.
Like I said, she could manifest bananas.
But what's interesting about it is he talked about certain things that she did because she could not just hypnotize someone without, you know, Sitting them down and say, okay, close your eyes and relax and get into a trance state.
She knew how to hypnotize them.
So, therefore, the shape shifting thing that we're talking about could be the result of exactly what you're saying, which is it's a hypnotic thing that's projected at somebody.
However, it seems to me that there's an ability in the Sarmoon work that Gurdjieff did that has to do with morphing your muscles.
And I think it is the muscular thing that can actually change your appearance.
Because again, look at the case of the reporter in the earlier story.
He's dealing with the glamorized Gurdjieff, but the people who are looking at him are also seeing the same person.
So he's Gurdjieff is glamorizing both of them somehow.
So, in my opinion, they have some energy ability to project it.
Now, there's another weird thing I want to point out, which is Gurdjieff in Search of the Miraculous, after Aspensky leaves, when he has these really Intense experiences in Finland with Gurdjieff.
He leaves and he's on a train, and Gurdjieff appears in his car, in his train car.
So he projects himself to visibly be there.
And like I said, I mean, Aspensky was a journalist.
He was a very down to earth person, even though he knew all this esoteric stuff.
He was pretty cynical about people and their experience.
So for him, this was miraculous.
So definitely, Gurdjieff had this ability and The origin of the thing is pretty interesting, let's face it.
Yes.
Yeah, I wonder if it's a dimensional thing, right?
Like when we're watching Sammy Hagar, he was talking about it's fifth dimension where you can manifest a banana or an apple, you know, out of if you're physically shape shifting.
We know the masters when they come and they manifest, they can come in any form they want.
Well, that's true.
There's a Sammy Hagar clip that gives us this two things out of that.
One of them is that.
He has this great interest in Uspensky, which I think is interesting.
But two, he also is dealing with what?
Aliens.
And that's in 1970.
So, Hagar, for whatever else we want to say about him, he's got a very.
Earlier, it was like 67, 67, 68.
Interesting, yeah.
You know, it's weird he said that, um, but I think it was actually 1970.
That's the way the story goes, yes.
Um, just a cute one.
Vin Cognito says, In the 80s, I had a band and we had the idea to sell Gurdjieff mustaches as merch.
Wow, that was so cool.
I read a story, it was in the Washington Post, and um, it's very strange because it is Gurdjieff.
And it's a whole thing about, you know, what about Gurdjieff?
But in the Washington Post in 1977, it's a big exposition on what Gurdjieff taught and how Gurdjieff's work is catching on with people at the World Bank.
So, you know, now we have the World Bank, Pope Francis, Steve Bannon.
I mean, you know, it's getting pretty interesting the amount of people that this work has gotten out to and the amount of people dealing with the fourth way moving forward.
You know, I want to emphasize this about the fourth way, which is.
It's transformational work, even in a book, okay, even without working with a group or whatever, it opens up so many possibilities for analysis and it gives so many insights.
Of course, it is Ospensky's experience with him, so he's going through it.
And Ospensky is very detailed.
As a matter of fact, Gurdjieff gave him the rare compliment that he was a very good journalist after the book came out.
Because Gurdjieff was still alive and he got a copy of the book and he said, Oh my God, I don't believe it.
This is exactly what happened.
So, how rare is that?
So, we have something interesting there with the book.
And, you know, so there's a system inside that book.
Now, here's another thing about the book, In Search of the Miraculous, that Ospensky wrote about his experiences with Gurdjieff he calls it In Search of the Miraculous.
But in fact, that was the name of his lectures.
And so, it's the publisher that gives this book.
That name.
His title for the book was Fragments of an Unknown Teaching.
That's what we're talking about.
The teaching itself is very unusual, but it is spiritually transformative.
And it is, I mean, it made a huge impact on me when I discovered it initially.
Looking back on it now, it's very highly unexplained still.
So, Medley Childress wants to know what would be a good first book of Gurdjieff's to read if.
Would you start with Ospensky's book?
I would.
I would.
Because I think it lays it out in the most clear fashion.
I think Meetings with Remarkable Men, which they made into a movie, but the book is so interesting.
And it is written in such an easy fashion that it would be like, you know, the kind of thing that you would pick up and read and follow is an adventure story almost.
And it gives his whole thing about.
He was interested in finding out what it was.
And what really gets him interested is an experience he has as a child with a Yazidi.
And the Yazidis came up a lot during the ISIS wars and all this thing because all the ISIS people were grabbing Yazidi women, if you remember this.
And the Yazidis were really having a tremendously hard time.
There might be a reason for that that's not so obvious, which is they may have been targeted because of their intense mystical abilities.
And what happens is the boys that he's in this kind of military academy with, they know.
That if they draw a circle around the Yazidi boy, he won't be able to leave the circle and he struggles.
Once they draw the circle, he's freaking out because he can't get out of it.
And Gurdjieff has some sympathy and rubs the circle out, and the Yazidi boy runs away.
And all the other boys just tell him, Oh, the Yazidis are devil worshipers.
That's all that they know about them.
That's what they think of them.
But in fact, the Yazidis have this very deep, old mystical tradition.
And it's these types of things that get Gurdjieff thinking, Whoa, you know, at a very young age, what is actually going on here?
And it's that that will make him seek out.
The Sarmoon Brotherhood, and then find the Brotherhood, learn their techniques, and then try to share them with the world.
It's my impression, especially with Casey's dialing into Uspensky, that there was something really major going on with Uspensky, Gurdjieff, and Casey and Steiner that was meant to come out and for us to work with those ideas over the course of 100 years, bring us into the 21st century.
And when we face this kind of technological terror, then we have the tools to deal with what Gurdjieff called the terror of the situation, Europe.
Michael Sibol, does the Pope approving the Enneagram mean that there is a relation with G to Templar knowledge and Masons versus the Vatican?
I guess the Jesuits are going into the Enneagram.
Yeah, excellent point.
Well, I'm trying to track down the.
Pope Francis and his involvement with the Enneagram.
I found these articles and these quotes, which for sure, that's his top guy saying that, oh, he's very familiar with it.
Not he's heard of it, he's very familiar with it, i.e., he knows what it's all about.
What's interesting, there's another quote in there which says that he associates it with the Desert Fathers.
You know, when you go and you look at this, you can see that at Mount Athos, there's an incredible Monastery, and they have this very deep knowledge of the Holy Fathers.
And, you know, there's a deep mystical tradition that goes on in secret to a certain degree.
Then you have the incredible expanse of the Vatican Library and all the things that they know.
And if certainly they have books on Atlantis, they have the deep ancient maps, ancient manuscripts, but those things aren't for public consumption.
So that's, you know, there's a withholding of knowledge there on one hand, and then there's is the public ready?
Is the culture ready for this?
And this comes up with the mystery schools and the secret societies all the time.
There's a group inside, I think, that I refer to Xshare and Xprotect around the X technology and the UFO file and things like that.
That same type of thing applies when you get into esoteric areas.
There's groups that want that information out, and there's groups that will do anything to make sure the public doesn't get their hands on it.
So I think that when we're looking at that knowledge, We have to think what would happen if it were brought out, and you know, um, so the knowledge about Atlantis, for example, the culture at this point has the ability, I think, to take that message in and to learn about the past.
The problem is, there's been an idea constructed on top that is like, um, scientifically gets rid of the esoteric ideas, gets rid of the spiritual connection with it, and so they'd rather just have us think.
Oh, you know, a comet hit and it did, you know, all these things happened.
And they just won't go into that deeper aspect, which is there was a whole advanced race back there.
Atlantean Epochs and Advanced Cultures00:09:19
There was an advanced culture.
Gurdjieff talks about the advanced Atlanteans.
As a matter of fact, in Beelzebub's Tales to His Grandson, during one of those trips that Beelzebub takes to Earth, he comes, he shows up at the time of Atlantis when they have all this advanced stuff.
So you've got an advanced Atlantis showing up in Gurdjieff's work, in Steiner's work, in Casey's work.
This is a A foundation for us to rediscover and remember who we are.
And the point is that I've made very often on this, and I think you agree with this, which is discovering who we were in a previous culture, it's discovering the Atlantean epoch, which its connection to this period is actually a much bigger deal than UFO disclosure, because it's about us and what we can do.
And it's not about peers, which is fascinating enough, but actually, That discovery of us as an advanced culture, human potential, 10, 20, 30,000 years ago, inventing things with our minds.
This is the exciting thing of the Gurdjieff work, the Casey work, the Steiner work.
And I'll tell you, I don't think those groups, I think that the Steiner groups are afraid of his Atlantis work because, you know, it's hard enough to get Steiner's message across without all the Aramon and Atlantis stuff.
So, but if you get like the Waldorf schools out, And all the rest of it.
Can those Waldorf parents handle that larger thing when they're just trying to get their kid a very interesting, deep education?
On the Casey side, look, Casey gave 900 readings that deal with Atlantis.
Come on.
You know, I mean, Atlantis is, he's meant to bring, he does the best job of bringing forward that story.
And that story is not about, you know, flint and arrows and all that kind of stuff.
I mean, it's about ships that fly through mountains and, uh, Crystals and the two eyed stone that controls the whole world through power stations.
So, you know, we're on a different level when we're dealing with the Casey material.
And again, with the Gurdjieff work, he's bringing out so many different truths.
He's trying to give us something to work with, though.
So, what he figures out is okay, Theosophy comes out, they give the reincarnation piece, they give the psychic piece, and all the rest of it.
I'm going to, or the people behind me that are putting me out there, that mystery school push through Gurdjieff is going to come out physically.
They're going to say, you know what you need to do?
You need to work first.
You need to work because the work will develop enough energy for you to spiritually evolve to these ideas.
And it won't be just you thinking about ideas, dreaming off in your head.
It'll be connected to you physically.
So there's a different approach there.
And I think that there's all this experimenting going on with the mystery school saying, what will it take for humanity to advance?
Which method, which approach is going to give us the best results?
Yes.
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Okay.
So, Steve Bosco, may I ask, DJ, why is Steiner?
The dude of mystery schools.
Well, I mean, Steiner's incredible because he's a genius and he's a scholar and he's also an incredible esoteric mystic.
So that combination you don't see very often.
Very often you get, you know, like Blavatsky, who's incredibly psychic, but she's all over the place, you know.
And I mean, loaded with information, but you know, in a way, when you get into those deeper levels of explaining things, when it comes to, you know, dance, eurythmy, psychic experience, soul development, lifetimes in Lemuria, the evolution of the earth, earth to new Jupiter, Aramon, you know, I mean, this is very rich and powerful information.
I think you feel like you're at the Kindergarten level reading this stuff, you know, which is good.
It's good.
Kindergarten's not a bad place to learn from.
And, but I have to say on the mystery school side, I mean, Gurdjieff's right up there too.
This is very earth shattering stuff.
And what's interesting is in the beginning of In Search of the Miraculous, Ospensky looks in his drawer and he sees Cosmic Memory, the Atlantis book by Steiner.
So he's reading Steiner.
He quotes Blavatsky.
In tertium organum.
So, pre Gurdjieff, he's Steiner and Blavatsky.
When he hooks up with Gurdjieff, Gurdjieff is saying, Oh, look, you know, like theosophy can only give you certain types of results.
If we do it this way, we can really get somewhere.
And Ospensky buys into that.
At the end of his life, he feels that the system was so important, but that something was missing.
And it has to do, he thinks, with the higher emotional center.
And he talks about how the higher intellectual center only works with symbols.
And so we're back to steganography again.
Yes.
Jens Engelsgaard, did you ever do soupy whirling?
Well, I did the Gurdjieff technique exercises, and they are movements.
I'll tell you what's interesting is the only thing I can say about them, people I'm sure have done very extensively.
And I did them more as somebody like a journalist trying to come in and figure out what was going on in a way.
I mean, I was genuinely interested in it, so maybe that's not accurate.
Maybe I came in more with the idea that I would learn how to do these things.
And what happens is your relationship to time changes a little bit, I feel like.
So, that much, I think there's an energy in those exercises.
And you know, there's nowhere where you can go and you can just lay out and say, you know what, here are the 150 Kurjeff exercises.
I've never seen a book like that.
All the stuff that I saw when I went to different Gurdjieff groups, which were groups of people getting together, doing the work, most of that's, I've never seen.
You know, you've seen the videos of the movements, and we've heard about the Bennett groups doing it and all the rest.
But, you know, I've never seen those movements except doing them and maybe in some of the Gurdjieff movies and things.
It's not like there's.
A regular training.
I mean, there probably is a Gurdjieff movement training.
I know that they have it throughout, you know, like in Europe and of course in Japan and America, but I'm just saying that it's not something that you can easily get your hands on, certain types of movement exercises that they do.
It seems to me that there's a lineage of passing it down teacher to teacher.
And so I think the last, I think the teachers from the Bennett School are still alive.
I think the people who knew Gurdjieff.
The guy that I met who had studied with Gurdjieff in the last few years of Gurdjieff's life, he was already old.
And that was, you know, over 15 years ago.
So he was, you know, maybe 80.
So I think a lot of those guys have passed on now.
John Pentland and a lot of those, you know, real second wave of Gurdjieff teachers.
So I think it's the Bennett people that are still active because they were younger.
Remember, So, they're probably in their 20s or 30s in the 1970s, right?
In their early 70s.
So, they're still around.
And I'm sure still teaching the stuff.
Invisibility and Projecting Your Appearance00:05:39
And it is remarkable.
It is remarkable work.
But I was never as good as a dervish.
I got close to like the Peter Murphy level.
Okay.
So, all right.
Let's talk about invisibility for a minute.
So, Bobo the Clown says, I seriously once saw a person disappear.
As they walked across a sport field at an elementary school.
She disappeared, then reappeared 20 feet after the point she disappeared.
Then Candace says, Anyone that knows how to seal oneself with your Taurus field, you cannot be seen.
I practice all the time.
And no one approaches or interacts.
You remove it, then you're there.
Then Esoteric Gold said, David Hudson's white powdered gold, also known as the bread of life, disappeared in the lab.
Could the monatomic white powdered gold be the secret?
To the ability to disappear.
Oh, wow, you do.
You have a whole string there.
Look, there's something about invisibility.
You know, I remember that there's a story in the Bible of Peter and he is in jail, and an angel shows up and opens the door.
And Peter's like, you know, why isn't anyone grabbing us?
And the angel's like, you know, let's just get a move on here.
So, there's this echo in religious literature about it.
Actual invisibility, I think of a really funny story because it makes me think of Jim Mars.
And this is a story that Miles Johnston told me.
And it goes something like this that they're at a UFO conference.
And of course, Miles came to our SSP conference.
And he's always done a lot of very interesting stuff.
But so he's there with Jim Mars.
And Jim Mars is telling him about.
This device that they use for invisibility for teleporting somebody.
And basically, Miles is like, Well, that sounds fascinating, but you know, how would anyone ever get to see it?
And so, at a certain point, unexpectedly, Jim teleports out of there.
So, I found that really is like a really wild story.
But I've had other people tell me things that suggest invisibility takes place.
And so we've all heard about ghosts and things like that that can appear and not appear.
Astral projection is something that Casey had talked about.
And he said that you could go to a place, interact, and people would view you there as if you were actually physically there on a certain level.
And then he said, but you'd have to ask yourself, what would you use an ability like that for?
So he suggested this possibility of being able to project yourself.
Astrally, somewhere, and do things while you were there.
Um, you know, so we know that this exists on an esoteric level, on a day to day type level, in invisibility, you know, definitely hard to believe.
However, um, the shape shifting aspect, uh, I think I can say pretty clearly that I've seen something like that before.
So, I think that I've seen someone shift their appearance while I was there.
So, therefore, when I read stories like that, you know, for me, it rings bells.
Yes.
Brenda Fisher says that reminds me of Trump speaking about the invisible plane tech hat trick.
Oh, well, that's a real technology.
And it comes look, Project Invisible is what?
That's Einstein's Philadelphia experiment.
And who worked in the background there on that technology is T.T. Brown.
And, um, I love the story of T.T. Brown, you know, and this is something that his daughter told me.
And it concerned the man that she was dating at the time.
And he was T.T. Brown's aide.
And so T.T. Brown had an experience when he was at school, at college, and he saw something.
He was there with a horse and he saw something hovering over this river.
And it was an orb, and it came at him full force, and the horse freaked out and it knocked him down.
And he saw his entire future his family, the events that would happen, people that would try to move him into black projects, and the government, the whole thing.
And he was given that as a gift.
And the idea that he got from it was they showed that to me because they want me to help the world to get to understand what this is.
And so then years later, he has this aide, and he says to the aide, Do you feel that time travel will exist in our lifetime?
And the aide says, Yeah, you know.
And he's dating T.T. Brown's daughter at the time.
And T.T. Brown says, It will, you're right.
Merging Esoteric Wisdom with Science00:14:56
It's going to.
In your lifetime, you're going to see it.
And he said, What would you do if you knew it was real?
And T.T. Brown asks him, And the guy says, I'd go back and save my sister who died when she was young.
And T.T. Brown said, Well, there might be certain laws, universal laws, against doing something like that.
But you might be able to have an experience like that by using this device.
And it was a device that he was working on.
So, certainly, there are things there, especially since so much of T.T. Brown's work goes underground.
There is a level that we're getting to, which is merging the esoteric with the scientific.
There's no question about it.
The question is if we can get there with full spiritual awareness, then we won't be overwhelmed by it.
We're already being overwhelmed to a certain degree.
And I'm very much a person who believes in technology, but at this point, come on, we're being overrun by the technology.
So I think this is important considerations for us as we go down the line.
Yes.
Mermaid in the USA says invisibility technique is in the Celestine prophecy.
That's true.
I forgot that.
Oh, that's great.
I'll have to rephrase that.
That's great.
And I think, I'm trying to remember, If it was the author or his wife who emailed me a couple of years ago that they were watching the show.
So I remember very interesting.
James Redfield.
Interesting indeed.
Okay.
Specious Exchange says DJ, have you seen the patent related to literally how to learn to walk through walls?
Hmm.
Well, there's a series of unusual patents.
I'm not sure I've seen that one, but I.
This is what's interesting to me because when I talk about Apotheum and the thing that they keep inside of the X file of X technology, inside the UFO file, my big reason that they do what they do on the secrecy side is because of Apotheum.
And the Apotheum effect that takes place is reality distortion.
And so, therefore, what takes place is the normal rules of physics don't apply.
That's why when you get into UFO abduction and you see all these things happen that don't pertain to regular.
Reality, like people going through walls and, you know, their car being sucked up and things like that, lights going off, plants not growing.
You know, there's apothegm in their presence here as well.
So the apothegm thing isn't just an alien thing.
It goes back to the mystery school stories about Atlantis and what took place there and the effect of what that was, but blowing up the two eye stone, basically.
So that's a kind of like, um, Roundabout way of saying, I think Apotheum could be used for good purposes.
You know, like if we could learn how to use it, I think it's possible, but it's incredibly volatile, which is why the people have been in control over the UFO secrecy aspect.
Yeah, they repress it for a lot of different reasons, and they certainly repress it for financial reasons and for the advantage that it gives them studying it without exposing it to the public.
It creates a very thin layer of influence on the top that the public never gets to know anything about.
So I highly object to that.
But I think that the real reason why a group like X Protect exists is because the apothegm thing, they don't know the full extent of what happens with reality distortion field like that.
And that maybe, that's probably should be an important part of the conversation.
I know in doing four years of the X series and 125 episodes, I've tried to bring it forward.
I think it's important.
Yeah.
Kagoyda, is there a summary somewhere of all Casey Atlantis quotes slash readings?
Sure.
You know, the Edgar Cayce Foundation will give you access to every reading if you're a member.
And so many of them, I mean, Edgar Cayce on Atlantis, there's a series of Atlantis readings that go into the technology on an advanced level.
And I've studied them, and they are remarkable.
I think the Atlantis portion of the Cayce readings are the edgiest thing anywhere.
Much edgier than Blade Runner.
And I think it's a very overlooked aspect of his incredible, incredible work.
It's so edgy that this guy is writing in the 1920s about, you know, them moving, building things with their minds.
So think about that.
That's, you know, when you think about the story of Atlantis as Casey has it, he gives it a full overview of the history.
And he also takes us from 200,000 BC.
To 10,500 BC.
And the final island going down, the one there that was by Bimini, 8,100 BC.
So we get some flavor of the time lapse, and then the cultures move on and kind of forget.
Or you have a culture that remembers, and a guy like Cortez comes in and says, Oh, I'm going to take all your books, and they give us so much trouble because we have this different history under Christianity.
I'm going to burn all that stuff, get rid of it.
So that impulse, that burning books impulse, is still there.
As we're seeing with all the censorship across the internet, when they don't want an idea to get out, boom, the stuff just is memory hold.
Everyone, you're watching the Dark Journalist Show, X Series 125.
We've gone deep here with the Mystery Schools, and we're going to take two more questions.
Okay, I wanted to make sure to fit this in.
Esoteric Fairy Tales The last time the Jupiter Neptune conjunction that just happened in Pisces occurred was 1856, the year Blavatsky entered Tibet.
Oh.
What will happen with this spiritual conjunction this time?
Well, you know, I've been looking a lot into the hope of the world coming from Russia.
And Casey definitely used that phrase on a few occasions, but spoke of it in terms of their spiritual thought.
So it's not like, you know, some resource or something.
It has to do with a spiritual uprising that takes place in Russia at some point.
Then, if you go into the work of the Transcenders, who I've mentioned had a very interesting influence on me, but they're a group.
That Stan Fulham wrote about.
But in some of their readings to Stan Fulham and some of the readings and time that I had with them, they talked about how there was a spiritual movement that was developing there now.
And it was, you know, this is in 2010, I want to say, 2011, something along that line.
So 10 years later, that thing is probably pretty explosive.
So that may pertain exactly to what you're talking about, I would say, Eyes on Russia.
Just like At the top, you know, they're threatening us with nukes, whatever, and it's freaking people out like Peggy Noonan and Trump, who don't see things eye to eye.
And, you know, so we're at this weird level where, on one level, you're at the lowest point of all with Russia in terms of relations.
But secondarily, there's this thing moving in the background.
And let's not forget the entire fourth way system got off the ground where?
In Moscow, because that's where Ospensky was.
Fascinating.
Yes.
Last question, Miss Olivia.
Well, I actually just wanted to respond to that for a second.
I think it's, you know, none of us are guaranteed.
And I think actually we're probably guaranteed the opposite.
I think we're not guaranteed a happy life and certainly not a safe one.
And there's a lot of dread when we think about the time that we incarnated into and what is facing us, what might be facing us ahead of us.
And I try to remind myself that, you know, that is the human experience on the earth plane, basically.
And if you identify as an eternal soul, Who's been reincarnated many times?
We've faced death many times, and dying is not easy usually.
And but we have done it, we've been there, done that.
That you know, if you embrace that and say, Okay, what's the best I can do here?
What am I here for anyway?
It's to work on myself, it's to address my fears and overcome them and master myself here, master a human body, master my human experience.
What would Gigi say, you know?
We know where our failures are, our failings are, right?
And we know what we need to work on individually.
And in a way, I think the scariest thing is that we're allowing the quote elites to tell us what to focus on.
It's distracting us from our soul work, which is why we're here in the first place.
And that's how they win.
We're going to die anyway.
I know this is very morbid, and most people don't like to talk like this, although I do.
You know, it's like liberate yourself from the fear of death and get to work, get busy working on yourself.
You know, oh, no question.
You know, um, I think that that's very in line with the fourth way work as well.
Um, and the way that I look at it is every day should be an incredible motivator to move forward.
That we have this great legacy left to us by the schools for a reason, and it's a matter about opening up that legacy and working with the ideas individually.
Uh, sometimes as groups, when we're lucky enough to have people who are walking on the same track, um, but certainly.
Uh, you know, this overemphasis on what the elites are doing, you know, they've gone so crazy that they've been in our face, uh, doing insane things, and it, you know, they're ramping it up and ramping it up from, you know, covet ops to the incredible uh lockdown of knowledge and the incredible suppression of advanced technologies, etc.
So, we're in a weird, weird place with them, and um.
It seems like to me that people on the ground have a sense and have the ability they want to move forward, but there's this thing sitting on our progress, and so we encounter over and over again this struggle.
So we need to go into that kind of a struggle with as much spiritual fortitude as we can.
I think it is through the work, like the Gurdjieff work, and Ospensky, and Casey work, and Steiner's, that we get that extra connection, that extra piece, and they're giving us.
The tools, and let's see if we can use them.
I want to end on this last question.
Yeah.
So, Steiner de God, do you think we have initiates like Steiner or Gurjev living on earth now?
And if so, why don't we know about any of them?
Before you answer, I want to say, you know, there's a veil in between here and there, where they are now anyway, and the realm of the masters.
And they don't need to be here.
We have to remind ourselves.
Yes.
You know, mystics that we know are communicating with Steiner, for example.
And, you know, that there's intelligence that's available to us.
That's really true.
If we take the time to open ourselves up and if we trust that we can do it.
Yes.
And don't, everybody, we're still looking outside of ourselves.
You know, we are capable of this.
Right.
Well, that's an excellent point because you're looking within.
This is where the spiritual communication stems from, right?
You are the holy temple.
That's the body is the temple.
This is the central core of the.
Esoteric and the traditional Christianity.
So we understand that very well.
What I wanted to do was play a little bit of Bennett talking about what we can expect and what we can do.
And remember, Bennett is the student of both Gurdjieff and Ospensky, and he brings it all home.
And it has a lot in common with what you just said.
Are you ready?
Here we go.
Let's see if this works.
Another principle of change, and that is that change. can only be proportionate to the amount of force which is put into it.
But forceful change can only be effectual and positive if there is an equal response to it.
That is, revolutionary and violent change can only be destructive.
And therefore, even if an enormous force for change were at our disposal, we couldn't use it.
suddenly or immediately without producing destruction.
This principle of change is that one cannot change the present, but that there is the possibility of changing the future.
And I'm going to speak in terms of these two principles.
First of all, that we cannot change others, but there is a possibility of changing ourselves.
We cannot change the present, but there is a possibility of changing the future.
And that really, I think, captures it, which is we cannot change the present, but we can change the future.
So the present is the result of all these experiences and things that have taken place.
In terms of world affairs, all of these different things that the governments have done, et cetera, and the people's response to it.
Now we're at a point where we can talk about, we'll change the future because we're making these changes in how we view these things.
The other piece is equally as important, I think, which is you can't change other people.
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It's absolutely because free will is the dominant piece here in our lives.
And what you can do is by changing yourself, you can impact other people and change conditions around you.
To me, that's like really what the fourth way and that teaching is really all about.
And I think we get to that level with it.
And with that, Miss Olivia, The super chat is up.
We have such generous super chatters tonight.
Thank you so much.
The ideas room was great tonight, by the way.
Fantastic.
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I'll do a few shout outs here.
Scarlet Fire.
Okay, before you do, I wanted to let everybody know that this weekend is DJ's birthday.
It is my birthday.
Much appreciated as always.
Thank you.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Thanks and have a good night, Tina Borch.
Green Queen, much love.
Thank you.
A cult fan, he's out there.
He knows and he watches.
I like it.
John Meksuda, thank you.
Much obliged.
On a big eclipse, too.
Right.
The eclipse is actually Sunday into Monday, isn't it?
No, no, it's tomorrow.
Oh, it's tomorrow.
Fantastic.
All right.
Excellent.
Wow.
Great.
Johnny Parker, LH, Michael Marsden, Esoteric Fairy Tales, Taurus eclipse.
You know, who did I find out was a Taurus?
It's very interesting.
I'll remember before the show's over.
Fantastic.
Oh, it's great to have everyone out there.
What a great crowd tonight.
Nijat wanted you to give Gigi's Mars series a shout out because it's so fantastic.
Of course.
Yeah.
That's, you know, let me tell you, Gigi is doing some very, very interesting, edgy, edgy work.
And Gigi is going to be our guest next week.
Fantastic.
We have incredible guests coming up for me.
Like it's going to blow your mind, including the return of Dr. Farrell.
All there's tons of birthday stuff now.
It's great.
Thank you so much.
I really appreciate it.
And, uh, It makes all the difference.
Thanks so much for being with us tonight.
We had a great time with you.
And do you want to talk about being a Taurus at all?
What is it?
Do you want to talk about being a Taurus at all?
Chrissy, it's great to see you out there.
Roosevelt, smash that like before you leave.
Taurus is good.
Taurus is good.
Taurus is very focused, I guess, sometimes.
Willful.
That's great.
Stubborn.
Eno is a Taurus.
There we go.
That's interesting.
See, that makes a lot of sense to me, actually.
Green Queen.
Oh, I wanted to mention.
And social, very social.
You love people authentically.
Yes, absolutely.
People are fantastic.
Look at the people and the ideas from.
Just think about it.
Your birthday's in 22 days.
It's coming up.
It's coming up.
Andy B., we got your eclipse.
We got you an eclipse.
Excellent.
Thank you.
Who could ask for anything more?
Fantastic.
Patricia Blue.
Cat goina.
Everybody knows that Tauruses are awesome.
Oh, man.
I know Bing Crosby's a Taurus.
We got that.
Are you going to imitate him?
Hell no.
Let's see.
Catherine Harris?
I'd have baked you.
No, I'd have baked an eclipse.
There we go.
That joke is going around now baking an eclipse.
So is Libra.
Hey, hey, hey, we have some good astrology people.
I'm going to do an astrology show.
That's what I wanted to mention.
Which is, I'm putting together some ideas of who for that special astrology show, but watch out, that thing's going to be great.
WC Roy, it's great to see you.
I know Kate's out there, it's great to see you.
Carolyn Goida, excellent.
Carolyn sent me some interesting JFK stuff that we're going to get to in a special report.
Before you northerners, Sam Hain for us southerners.
I like it.
Astro Sam.
This is entertaining.
I would agree.
That's entertainment.
Let's see here.
Miss Olivia, final words?
Yes, do an astrology show.
See, people really want the astrology show.
So, really, polish up your astrology list.
I would love to get the Leo King, if anything, that would be dynamite.
That's a crazy idea.
I know.
He's hilarious.
He's irreverent, but he is accurate.
He's a character.
Wow.
That's a great idea.
Fantastic.
Wow.
Fantastic indeed.
Of course, everyone's going to have a fantastic weekend.
It's been great to be with you and to really bring out this fourth way aspect.
I think as we come up to all these struggles in the world that we're seeing, this is really a crucial time for us to get.
Our kind of esoteric side lined up.
And the mystery schools left that there for us.
And now there's so many more things opening up around it.
And I think really that legacy that we have from them of these incredible ideas make a huge difference and will make the difference in terms of building a new world, which is really what we're doing here with dark journalism.
We will see you all next week.
You may have a surprise report coming up.
And as I mentioned, Gigi Young's coming up.
And X Series 126 also will be a mind blower.
So we're so happy all of you could be here.
The ideas run off the charts.
So it says end broadcast, Miss Olivia, but as you know, the brilliance.
Fantastic.
Thanks so much, everyone.
Ray Carr, control mind, mind control.
True.
Hell yeah.
Love Gigi episodes.
Yes.
B Nickel, you got it.
Gigi, the Gigi episodes, I'm telling you, Gigi has so many places to take you when you're interviewing her that your mind is, you know, but incredible, incredible work she's doing and putting a lot into those very interesting visual edits that she's doing lately.
Thank you.
Have a great weekend yourself.
Carl Young, of course, great crowd in here tonight.