Dark Journalist David Torme and Olivia dissect Henry Ford's 1925 X8 engine, alleging it transferred to Nazi Germany under Hitler to enable invisibility technology and advanced weaponry. They analyze "X steganography" as a tracking method for hidden archives held by presidents like Nixon and Eisenhower, while debating whether the Allies truly won WWII given escaped Nazis via rat lines and the mysterious death of Hitler. The discussion links Ford's Theosophical ties to modern secrecy, questions the validity of JFK Jr.'s survival claims, and warns that widespread public deciphering of this data could trigger suppression efforts against these revelations. [Automatically generated summary]
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Walking Through Time Corridors00:07:05
And we are live.
This is Dark Journalist, and it's great to be here.
Wow, it's a fantastic crowd already.
And of course, tonight's a very special night because we are starting the third round of the X series, and each round is 10 episodes.
We just finished with a two episode blockbuster of round two, which featured the Rockefeller art connection to the X and the Gurdjieff movement on the Mystery School side.
Very crucial, and Gurdjieff pops in again in this episode as well.
So, it's going to be quite fascinating tonight.
It's one of the most important episodes, I would say, because we're going deep on the invisibility side.
As usual, I am joined by the existentially lovely Olivia.
Hi, everybody.
And, you know, it's an amazing thing.
Like the question segment, in addition to what we roll out in the first hour, is every bit as popular.
And a large part of that is due to the incredible questions that you guys ask in the great selection.
And kind of curating of the second half of that show by Olivia.
So my hat's off to you.
And she does a great job.
If we're doing questions in the second half of the program tonight, so ask your questions all in caps.
It's the easiest way to keep track of everything.
And it helps us, you know, as things get busier and busier to really see the questions.
Just ask the questions once we see them and they'll pop in there.
And, you know, as far as I can tell, what we've been really getting, a lot of people are really picking up on, I would say, with the X series is how.
We're really traveling between the mystery schools in this period, particularly the 19th century, right up to what's happening today with this battle over the Space Force.
That is the basic time corridor that we're working with, and that is the time corridor that we're working with tonight.
But this technology goes all the way back.
And so when we track things along mystery school lines, when they talk about airships and movements like Theosophy, for example, or Anthroposophy, or the Edgar Cayce work, What we're really getting is this incredible layout of the past that they're kind of offering us, the past that's been forgotten, the species with apnesia, as Graham Hancock said.
And we wish Graham a very happy birthday, 68th birthday yesterday.
But he gave us this great idea because the further and further he went back, the more and more advanced the culture was.
It doesn't make sense with the developmental line.
So he and many other researchers, like John Anthony West, like Joseph P. Farrell, See this whole period as a legacy into, you know, from a much greater culture into the cultures that we know, like Egypt, like Rome, and all this kind of development that we had, like Persia, like the Mayans.
It's all a legacy from a different period of a height.
So, what's been missing when we look at our kind of history timeline is we think of it as this gradual development up.
But in fact, it seems to have happened quite differently with these very advanced cultures back here.
And then that big slide after a major catastrophic series of events, which brought us back to a very Stone Age consciousness.
And then the way back up again.
And here we go.
One of the things I want to point out tonight and how we're going to get into the X technology tonight is through the figure of Henry Ford, who I think is largely misunderstood at times.
He's been branded so many different things.
And in some ways, he lined himself up for it.
But I will say that we have to look at some of these people a little bit differently.
That is, we have to kind of strip off the times and the periods that they were in and get right to the core of what they were doing and the activity they were engaged in and who was behind them and what the battles were.
So we understand the battle lines better.
You know, very often we have this thing where people go back and they look at Thomas Jefferson, for example, and they're like, well, Thomas Jefferson, you know, he kept slaves or he.
Slept with his mistress, who was his slave, or something like that.
And they want to take him out of the context of the 18th century and plop him into the middle of the 21st century, where it took us hundreds of years and marches and battles and water hoses and all that stuff to get through to a blending of cultures.
And they want to kind of minimize these people who were back there doing these incredible things.
And I hear this type of thing.
When it comes to theosophy, I think it's a really bad track to go on because these people are working through the periods that they're in.
And I feel that very often we find with people like Blavatsky, for example, this is someone who was an incredible contributor to our culture.
And we can't look back at them now and sort of try to apply this 21st century paradigm on them.
We're not going to get to the root of their work.
We can see them as a general flowering.
Of humanity, just like the founding fathers, you know, they weren't perfect by a long shot, but they brought together something crucial and amazing, which was the Constitution.
So, you know, that's what we're going to do with Ford tonight we're going to strip away when we get into the questions section.
Let's not worry about whether Ford was a racist or Nazi.
I mean, it's going to come up his association with all that.
But the core of this, what we're looking for, is we're looking for the X connection.
And so, I do want to caution when we look back at some of these individuals and people.
Even the Rockefellers, it's too much of a thing when we have the ability to look back on them to judge these people.
And this is a tricky line to walk because we have to see what they were up to and see it objectively without judgment.
And I think we get a better penetration to see through them and the things they're dealing with.
That way we get to the other side of the secrets that they've been keeping.
If we just feel a kind of moral superiority and moral certitude when we deal with them, I don't think it's going to go as well.
Because there is something about that kind of two minutes hate from 1984 that I've discussed here before, where I see many, many, many outlets using this, where they'll take a particular political figure and they will just hammer away on this person.
And it's kind of tricky because even if they are part of that system and they are responsible, there is a certain point at which that kind of a catharsis, that kind of outlet, doesn't help us get to the truth of the matter.
The UFO File's Deep Secrets00:15:16
And it's kind of temporary catharsis.
So, we avoid that completely in the show, as you might gather.
And hopefully, you know, doing it a little bit differently like this, you get a little bit of a different flavor that we're not inciting you to some particular passion against a person.
We're trying to get to see what the mystery school influence was with the deep state, with the advanced technology, and with this kind of halls of secrecy and what it is, what is the secret that they're actually keeping.
And it's kind of the crucial question.
So, what I'd like to do right now, since we're starting the third round of the X series, which is all about tracking the X steganography through history into these programs in the 20th century that became the foundation for the 21st century of government secrecy around technology.
The X steganography, and it's interesting too, and one thing I want to mention here is that so many people have been sending me fantastic updates about things, and suddenly we see steganography coming up as a very negative.
Connotation saying, well, spies use it, Russian spies use it.
And it's part of this whole computer hacking thing.
And sure, steganography or cryptography can be used in that way.
Interesting, however, the sudden negative connotation around it, since we've been really tracking it.
And in my estimation, the ex steganography is such a breakthrough that I'm calling it the Rosetta Stone for what we're after here and trying to break the wall of secrecy.
So you might see everything from MSNBC to these computer magazines.
Using this term steganography suddenly and really kind of using it to bash things and make it a kind of a dangerous phrase.
Don't fall for it because the steganography is how we're going to get to the truth about all of these different things.
Steganography is a tool and it can be used for wheel or woe, as it were.
So it's one of these things where we really have to watch, you know, just like when Snopes did an article bashing my time capsule story.
With Robert Merritt and the Nixon time capsule with the X in it.
You know, to me, those are shots.
Those are pot shots taken to make sure something doesn't get afloat.
And now we're seeing some of that activity around the steganography.
So let's watch it.
But let's start with this.
This is the X.
This is actually the logo for the Dark Journalist Show.
It's a very simple logo.
And I chose it that way because I was thinking of two streams, two different streams coming into someone's consciousness and reality, which is the controlled reality and then the.
Right near it, right under it, this kind of thinner veneer right underneath was this reality to this incredible tapestry of ideas and knowledge.
Now, the three rules I adopted for dark journalists are very good to adopt when you're looking at any of this stuff.
Right now, we're seeing all kinds of things flood into the alternative media, and they're full of disinformation, like the TTSA.
I'm very happy to say that I've done shows on that, you know, kind of looking into it, and I've exposed the CIA elements just controlling those people.
And controlling those movements.
We have a lot of them now.
And the thing is, from the reporting that I'll do, I'll report on them as much as I can, but there's so many.
It's going to be like a whack a mole game.
So adopting these three rules as each of you go through it is going to be smart.
The first rule is this is dark journalism.
There's three levels to it.
The first level is simple it's the official story.
It's what we hear generally when a deep event happens, and they try to kind of cover the danger elements inside.
So, the Kennedy assassination is such a great example, and we've covered that extensively here.
This is 55 years later, come November, and they're still covering that up.
The official story in that case just won't wash at all.
Oswald was, of course, an intelligence asset and had about as much possibility of assassinating Kennedy as the driver, as it were, because we've heard that disinformation go out too.
Now, the official story is in place usually to.
Cover a particular incident and to protect the institutions involved.
Now, the second level, which I think is a crucial level that we see a lot, is the counter story.
When people come in and they say, What's going on here?
What's, you know, how is it that the government lied about this?
Or the officials investigating it looked into it but left these crucial facts out.
And we see people like Peter Dale Scott and other heroes along this line who've really dissected and become that counter story.
So you get a lot of professors, you get a lot of researchers, you get a lot of people looking for the truth.
And that's a crucial level, I think.
The third level is the important one.
And this I'm seeing everywhere.
I mean, we're saturated with it.
It's junk conspiracy.
That is a third force in dark journalism.
And what the junk conspiracy will do is it will come in with something, it's like Flat Earth, for example.
It comes in with something wild, it comes in with something that grabs attention, you know, follow the rabbit hole, this kind of thing.
And we see so much of it that it pulls so many people in this wrong direction that intelligent people looking at these situations, looking at the junk conspiracy, say, oh, This is so crazy, I'm just going to go back to the official story.
You see how that works.
So, you know, we have a lot of different situations about that.
So, let's use the Kennedy assassination real briefly.
Official story Oswald did it with a broken gun from the sixth floor window, even though he was on the second floor.
That's the official story.
He was a crazy communist, even though he worked for right wing Guy Bannister, who, by the way, was the guy who invented the X Files by researching UFO cases in the late 40s.
So, that's the official story.
And that three bullets created seven wounds.
So, the secondary story, the counter story, which is often called the conspiracy theory by the media, is that there were CIA elements involved in the assassination and that the government covered it up.
Or, at the very least, the government covered it up because there were CIA, rogue CIA elements who were involved.
This is the counter story with lots of good research, lots of evidence, lots of details, lots of committees, et cetera, but dismissed as the conspiracy theory by the mainstream media.
Third level, junk conspiracy, the driver did it.
It's very simple.
And, you know, we've heard stupid things like Jackie did, you know.
That's junk conspiracy, straight up.
And we see a big junk conspiracy one going out now, which is the JFK Jr. story.
So we have to kind of put this lens in front of us, which understands the three levels the official story, which we get in the media, the counter story, which we get from great independent researchers like Joseph Farrell, for example.
And the third level, junk conspiracy, usually put out not just by crazy people running after a story, but usually put out as an actual COINTELPRO psyop to get people off the trail.
The JFK Jr. is alive and like working with, you know, some of these off balance movements online, and he's doing it.
And like, here's a picture of him, and it looks like him.
And, you know, do you remember this picture floated around of Assange recently saying, hey, Assange is Trump, you know?
Look.
All that stuff is to block the fact that we've brought forward the John Trump X connection.
I guarantee you that's what it's for.
If they can get people to run after Assange as Trump's son or some nonsense like that, or JFK Jr. is alive, which, by the way, is a particularly morbid and horrible thing to do.
Imagine the family who lost the son and daughter there and think about their feelings.
So, is that what alternative media will become?
We have to ask ourselves these questions.
We have to look at this differently.
We cannot be these off balance.
We cannot let that off balance strain affect us.
We have to look at things objectively and logically.
And unfortunately, even intelligent people will occasionally run after things like the Blue Chicken Cult or the TTSA, even though CIA is right there in the front, almost advertising with a banner that they're in charge of it.
And you'll get really good journalists to do that.
So I think it's important.
And one of the things I wanted to stress here in the beginning, and I forgive you for indulging me on this, is that we need a way to look at these things intelligently without getting thrown out of our center with some story to run after.
The X story is big enough and explosive enough, and the truth is so mesmerizing that we don't need a little runaway junk conspiracy to keep us entertained if we want to get to the truth.
If there are people who want junk conspiracy, there's so much of it that they're going to be able to get it.
But they won't get it here.
What we're after is something very, very different.
And it's a kind of knowledge that's only available for a certain time.
And it's incredibly expansive if we can get our hands on it and kind of.
Develop it.
Let's say it that way.
So, I can tell you right now that there's some information that's available in the public sphere right now that just wasn't available a few years ago that's crucial.
So, there are some players in the field that weren't here a little while ago.
So, this is a crucial period of time, and I think we can really bring the steganography around the X out.
So, X steganography, you might kind of look at it like this there's a program out there.
And a lot of this program is associated with the UFO file, as we've demonstrated on this show.
Now, the UFO file has something I think that's quite important, which is that the level of secrecy around it, you know, it's a bigger secret than the atomic bomb when someone gets close to it, which is why stories that get close to it often disappear.
And when they hang out in the public space, they try to get, you know, discredited over time.
And they look back on it and say, you know, like, well, that Roswell story, ha ha, you know.
When in fact, it was an intelligence officer who ran across the wreckage in the first place, and he was the intelligence officer for the only atomic bomb squad in the country at that time.
So that story was very solid from the beginning until they started to monkey with it.
And by the way, that story didn't come out for 40 years after it happened.
So, you know, we're talking about something which had a long period of gestation and was not one of these throwaway stories.
But we can see that this is the way that stories are kept.
Output transcript Out of the public mainstream, and they're fed this kind of junk conspiracy.
But the X now entering into the public domain changes the equation dramatically, which is why this is kind of a volatile period generally in terms of alternative information, alternative research coming into the space.
So we're actually in really a good position because so much of it is out there, and the timing is just right.
So one of the things that I want to stress is the X steganography.
Is a means by which these really, really black projects can communicate with each other.
So, what I did is I tracked a number of experimental planes and experimental projects, and over and over again they would go black.
And I'd be like, well, there's no record of them.
But then I'd find something that connected them, and it would always pop back up as an X, which told me that it was going black, and X became the way to track it by these groups.
So, there's a kind of volatile effect that exists inside these technologies that we can call the X technologies that exist inside places like the UFO file.
Now, inside the UFO file, I feel what they're guarding, what we often assume, and what we've heard, you know, we've really heard over the years great researchers talk about, like Stanton Friedman, who I've had many great interviews with and conversations with, which are available on this channel.
And what he's talking about is, you know, Something from an off world civilization crashes.
We have a crash retrieval team.
They pick it up, they re engineer it.
Now, that process has taken place.
There's no doubt about it.
But I don't think that's the only thing that they're hiding.
I think that they're hiding not just the technology that comes out of that, which would be certainly highly classified.
But this period of time tells me that it's something else.
It's something that is completely volatile.
So I've named it this kind of reality distortion effect.
And the reality distortion effect is called apotheum because apotheum is a word I chose by doing some research.
And I'll explain more about apotheum as time goes on.
But the apotheum effect relates, and we'll do a simple example when people lose time in UFO abduction cases, or if electronics go haywire, if entire cities get blacked out when they're dealing with UFO sightings.
These are effects that are taking place that are technological, that are physical.
And missing time is a particularly good example because if time distortion happens, if you ask any physicist, it changes the physical laws that the person is existing in.
So, what we're talking is about an entirely different reality that these people have to exist in to lose an hour or lose a day or whatever it happens to be.
So, apotheosis is something I think that we need to take as a fundamental tenet of what's going on around the X technology and why it needs to be hidden.
And why these people and these groups inside the government that move it through these various government agencies treat it with such secrecy and at times lethal secrecy, as we've seen in the case of many UFO researchers.
And that became a very hazardous lifestyle for people in the 50s and 60s.
And I think that we saw later that they started to use this kind of discrediting disinformation technique.
But early on, you'd find people on highways with carbon monoxide flowing.
So, you know, that's a whole different kind of approach.
So, I think apotheum, which I'm going to spell here as apotheum, is something absolutely crucial for us to take as a fundamental tenet of how we search for the X steganography.
Because if we understand why the steganography is there in the first place, it's easier to track it.
And we are able to dismiss things that aren't actually X related, even if they're using the same symbology.
JFK Jr.'s Disinformation Tactics00:03:14
So, I hope all that's clear.
And we're going to go deep into some X steganography tonight.
Before we do, I want to remind everyone to go to the Dark Journalist website.
Sign up for the newsletter.
It's a free newsletter.
And that is something that I've found.
You know, forget about social media networks.
No, we have them.
And you can go to twitter.com, dark journalist forward slash dark journalist, or facebook.com forward slash dark journalist.
But really, the main pipeline between us is the newsletter.
That's something where the only thing that's going to happen is we'll send you a newsletter about once a week telling you about the shows that are coming up.
But that pipeline is crucial.
So let's keep those channels of communication.
Open as best we can because you know how it is with social media here today, gone tomorrow.
And before I go any further, I want to check in with Miss Olivia.
Do you want a question right away?
Oh, fantastic.
Thank you.
Okay.
David Torme is asking DJ, what about the idea that JFK Jr.'s flight was sabotaged?
Well, there's no question.
I completely believe that.
And I think that there's been great work done on that.
There's no question that JFK Jr. occupied a unique position because he had started a magazine which focused on political details and the political scene.
He was an excellent, good looking candidate.
For the Senate seat that Hillary Clinton would eventually occupy, which she thought was a stairway to the presidency.
Turned out not so much.
But that's, you know, that raises the stakes around JFK Jr. dramatically, I think, especially the fact that he was planning on going into politics.
And we know that it was Carolyn Kennedy who was going to be appointed to the seat.
This is something that came up in this kind of kerfuffle that happened when Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State.
The Kennedys were around that seat because they have that deep connection to New York.
And of course, Robert F. Kennedy was the senator from New York.
Let's not forget it was John and Ted who were the Boston senators, but Robert was there in New York.
So we have that whole connection.
So it's an unfortunate thing.
And it's an amazing story, I think, about JFK Jr.
I think he was thoroughly convinced, from what I've heard, that he understood, and inside that Kennedy beltway, they understand the.
As we found in Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s recent book, that the history of the CIA with the Kennedys is a warfare situation.
And that's been going on for over 50 years.
So, yeah, it is quite dramatic.
And when you see people who, you know, not just kind of random people, but even people who've done books and been authors, I saw a major author out trying to tout this just as a way to kind of spur book sales or something.
It's really, I mean, it's so beyond the pale that, you know, I just, I find myself speechless when it comes up, but it is the junk conspiracy, and so that's what we've included in dark journalism.
Watching out for that junk conspiracy is a crucial, crucial factor.
You can actually zoom me with another one there.
Vannevar Bush and Box X00:15:24
Could you spell apotheum again for the audience, please?
Yes.
It's A P like Peter, O T like Tom, H E U M. Apotheum.
And there are many references to apotheum if you go really deep.
In history, if you pick up a normal dictionary, it's not in there, and uh, this is what I thought was interesting about it, also because um, apotheum relates to a few different things.
Um, there's actually a mathematical term called apothem, which has some kind of derivative spin off root from this term, as does the word apothecary.
However, um, the broadness of the word and how it was used going back into medieval periods seems to have a Greek root, and um.
So, there are many things that we're going to learn about Apotheum as we go along here in the X series, but Apotheum is a crucial aspect of what we're doing.
If we understand X steganography, then Apotheum is right there next to it as the understanding.
So, they're both kind of neck and neck.
And I've said that after going through different eras, different brotherhoods, different political movements, different texts.
It seems to me that Apotheum was the appropriate term to use for that reality distortion field that occurs.
That's where all the secrecy comes from around the UFO file.
It's far beyond just aircraft secrecy or superiority or something like that.
It's a much different thing.
You have to think of it a much different way.
Different way.
It's actually a transporter.
It's a totally different reality that takes place.
And in some ways, you can almost appreciate some of the secrecy around it.
Unfortunately, the secrecy has developed a psychotic situation between the public and the people who hold the secrets.
And there's a cycle of disrespect that happens there.
So that's no longer tenable, I would say.
Let's do a couple of basic things about the X, and then we're going to get into Ford.
And Project X Tech Invisible, which is absolutely important, which takes in Mercedes Benz and which takes in also this connection that Ford had with the Nazis and how Walter Dornberger got his hand on the X in the first place to make all those X planes that we have tracked.
Okay, first things first Donald Trump and Richard Nixon.
People who've watched this show understand the connection.
People who have not, who are first seeing this, I want to introduce them briefly.
Richard Nixon is a very misunderstood character in history.
Great access to the UFO file.
Been working on it for Eisenhower and as part of something called CIA Blue Book, which was the real deal.
And you know, Blue Book that we hear about and that they're making this series about with Littlefinger, he's in there, which, Olivia, you've got to love that.
That Littlefinger?
Yeah, I love Littlefinger.
Exactly.
He's like my favorite character.
Littlefinger from Game of Thrones is playing J. Allen Hynek in that.
And what is fascinating about it is, you know, J. Allen Hynek was supposed to be on the skeptical debunk team, and then little by little he started to realize, oh, these guys really are, you know, there is a real reality going on here and around the UFO factor and the UFO file and these cases, and it's getting the whitewash.
And eventually he jumped ship and in the 70s became the lead UFO researcher, really.
And then Close Encounters of the Third Kind, that's all J. Allen Hynek's work, really.
And he's featured very prominently in this period.
And they were toying with disclosure back there, but why were they toying with it?
Well, because Nixon was working on the idea of an alternative energy resource, and he felt the time had come with the UFO file to bring it forward.
Watergate stopped that.
And most of that work that he was doing was taking place around Pine Gap.
That's where it was more comfortable, as opposed to Area 51.
We've been doing Area 51 here since the 40s.
We know that he was deeply involved with that, but the development of the energy where the X went to was Pine Gap, and we featured Pine Gap in a few X or so episodes.
Let me tell you, there's a few episodes coming up about Pine Gap that are literally mind blowing.
So, you know, stay tuned for those.
Let's look at this letter.
It's from Richard Nixon to Donald Trump, and I show this sometimes because of the lights, it doesn't always show up so great.
But anyway, that's Dear Donald there, and that is Richard Nixon's signature here.
Let me see if we can.
Yeah, that's here.
But anyway, I'll read it to you.
It's from December 21st, 1987.
And it says Dear Donald, I did not see the program, but Mrs. Nixon told me that you were great on The Donahue Show.
As you can imagine, she's an expert in politics and predicts that whenever you decide to run for office, you'll be a winner.
Warm regards, Donald Trump.
This photo is hanging in the White House right now in the Oval Office behind Donald Trump.
So, a very significant letter there from Nixon.
To Trump.
Nixon became very close friends with Trump, as it turned out, and moved to New York to expand that friendship.
They became great on the circuit together, and here they are holding a fundraiser with none other than Texas Governor John Connolly.
Texas Governor John Connolly was in the assassination car when President Kennedy was shot.
Now, real politicians know that visuals count, and the visual here is here's a future president, here's a former president, and here's someone who was in the car when they bumped off a president.
Quite significant symbology, any way you slice it.
Nixon provided a lot of intel, and my feeling is his information around the UFO file jibed with information that Trump had.
And where did Trump get the information?
On this show, we've gone to great lengths to go far beyond just the idea that John Trump recovered Nikola Tesla's papers, which is really important.
So the inventor Nikola Tesla dies, and the FBI rings up Professor John Trump, who's Trump's uncle that he's very close to.
And he often talks about them even now.
He spoke about them a week and a half ago in London.
This is a close, close bond.
Professor John Trump, I've read his papers.
You know, Olivia and I went to MIT and we found out that all of his papers were kept in box X.
It was just ironic.
But you see, the idea is this is the way to track the steganography.
How do you track the technology?
So there's a whole thing to be looked at when we look at X steganography because somebody could just say, oh, well, there's an X on that box.
True.
But the thing is, when you think of it in terms of the X planes and how they were kept secret and how the whole developmental project around the X took place over many decades, then having his materials at MIT in Box X is quite significant, actually.
So it changes the paradigm when you have the X as the Rosetta Stone.
It's classic.
And it has done that for me and for Olivia also.
One thing that we found in there is that the patents that John Trump had, Professor Trump had, with Professor Van de Graaff, who was famous for his X ray work.
He's really the top man, Robert Van de Graaff, for X ray work.
But who was that third person there?
Let's see if we can look at that.
Vannevar Bush.
This is quite significant.
And I hadn't seen this reported anywhere when I was doing this research.
Literally, I found no references to Vannevar Bush in connection with John Trump.
So I looked into it and I found that not only was he connected with him making patents in as early as 1934, But John Trump, Professor Trump, was Vannevar Bush's protege.
And there's a great interview that he does with Stan Deo where he alludes to his protege, his mentor, Vannevar Bush.
And then I've gone through and I've collected about six hours of video of John Trump talking about different things.
And Vannevar Bush is just, you know, bing, bing, bing, comes up quite often.
So we have to understand Vannevar Bush and the connection to John Trump.
It's absolutely crucial.
Vannevar Bush was in charge of the National Science Department for the government under FDR.
And he was the president of the Carnegie Foundation, and he worked for FDR, Truman, and Eisenhower.
Quite significant character in a number of ways, so many important, significant inventions.
But most important, I would say, is that he's the man who managed the UFO file.
So that's on record now.
It comes about through official Canadian documents by someone named Wilbur Smith who put it on the record.
Later, when they added him in the MJ 12 documents, when all that came out, some people said, well, maybe this is just a hoax or something.
And I always thought, when I look back on it now, hmm, this is interesting that they spun him in there.
Maybe it was a way to try to make it questionable since they had a real, actual government document that talked all about how he ran the UFO program.
When we mentioned John F. Kennedy there, of course, that's Governor John Connolly who was standing there with Richard Nixon.
So, this is how we understand these people and their connections.
Early, early connections of the ex, someone named Frank Scully.
Frank Scully was in charge of this case, and he was one of these kind of fascinating writers and a little bit of a gadfly.
He was a Hollywood guy, he had a lot of connections.
And he heard about a fascinating case in early 1950, which was the Aztec New Mexico UFO case, where this UFO crashes and it's taken away, and so many people see the military haul it away, but it's also there.
Sitting there wide open for people to see for days.
And there's a lot of witnesses around it, et cetera.
So the FBI goes on an incredible campaign against Scully.
Now, of course, Scully shows up as the name of Dana Scully in the X Files, which I found very interesting.
And the X Files themselves come from this FBI work around the UFO file.
That's what they called it, X.
So when we track the X steganography and we think of this idea of X, you know, experimental, X unknown, yes, but let's look a little bit deeper because X is a way to communicate a number of things without giving the whole secret away.
So, if I tell you, look, you need to track these programs whenever this thing comes up with an X and it's related to aerospace or it's related to a particular area, you're going to have a better time.
So, if I tell a CIA agent that and I'm his commander, I have a better shot of getting this intel as opposed to bringing in 5,000 agents and telling them all about the X steganography and how it relates to the UFO file.
I'm just telling them, keep up with the symbol and give me reports back.
They don't have to know, there's no need to know exactly what we're referring to here.
The X envelopes, these are kept by presidents and they're available.
I call them stealth archives because, of course, they're available, but we can't get at them.
So we know that they're there.
For example, Richard Nixon's time capsule that Robert Merritt brought up, and Robert Merritt had worked for Nixon in the Houston plan and talked about how Nixon was very much aware of the UFO file and had put aside information and kept it as a time capsule in the White House.
LBJ and the X envelope, which is here, and I show this in every episode because it's crucial.
And it has to be on the record.
That says it's not to be opened until 19, I'm sorry, 2023, 50 years from 1973.
Those are the instructions.
So, why would LBJ keep a letter at his library which wasn't to be opened until 2023?
It makes you think a little bit, doesn't it?
Well, it turns out Eisenhower also has one of these time capsules.
And that's a Project X time capsule, 1953.
He put that together.
And by the way, his mainstream biographers understand that that time capsule exists.
So it's not something that we have to theorize on or speculate about.
It's there.
When is that one to be opened?
2053.
Okay.
So we're getting an idea that these people are involved with the UFO file and the X technology.
And they want their role when it all comes out, you know, when disclosure happens, they want their role documented well.
So they put aside these what?
These stealth archives.
The Rockefellers and the Kissingers, they have these stealth archives also.
They are volumes that we can't get at.
Can't get at that letter, can't get at Eisenhower's time capsule.
They're protected until the time is right.
That's the way it works.
That's a stealth archive.
It's a crucial aspect of how our investigation around the X works.
The X, I'm going to give you two examples of how the X works.
Here's one The Rosicrucians are kind of one of the best known mystery schools, and they provided the best information and kept the most underground in a sense.
But they let things out over the years, and they've been around really since Egyptian times, but they came out with a bang around the 16th century.
And let out so much information that it became almost a craze, a frenzy.
And a lot of it had to go right back underground again because that kind of persecution by the powers that be are like, we're not letting this information out.
You're not going to hear about advanced technology.
You're not going to hear about ancient Atlantis.
You're not going to hear about these different things.
The incredible psychic abilities that people have has to be kept underground.
So, you know, what they have, they see the individual in the midst of these two vital forces.
And so it forms an X.
And we have that cross, and the individual is in the middle.
That's one aspect of looking at the X. Here's the other aspect Walter Dornberger, Nazi paperclip scientist who came over here and gave us the X planes.
And the quote that he has is Do you realize what we accomplished today?
Today, the spaceship was born.
This is when he and Wernher von Braun created the V 2 rocket.
And those rockets were to carry bombs to bomb London.
So it gives you an idea of Dornberger and where he is.
He's thinking, Hey, the spaceship is born, and you know.
This thing will be able to go over there and bomb the heck out of the Brits.
So, the people who are around the X technology, not the most ethical, let's put it to you that way.
But then again, on the mystery side, on the mystery schools and the secrets that they keep about the X and the X steganography, highly ethical and very worried about the effect on the general population if a small corporate group gets their hands on this amazing reality distortion effect.
Learning from Incredible Reality00:05:54
And you could say, I could just say amazing technology.
It doesn't really capture it, does it?
Amazing exotic technology.
We're getting closer.
But something about this apothecary in relation to it, I think, gives us a better idea because then it becomes a physical, spiritual experience.
We can understand that a little bit better.
So, now with all that in mind, let's take a look at the X through the figure of Henry Ford.
And as I do that, I'm going to remind everyone to look up the.
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How are we doing over there, Miss Olivia?
We're doing great.
Do you want another question?
Sure.
Okay.
So Cheryl Peterson says, I would love a bio show.
How many books does he read per week?
How far back does this interest go in life?
When does he sleep?
Well, the sleep part, I guess, is the most important part of that whole equation.
I read a lot.
You should see the stack of books on the kitchen table.
But the thing is, I have incredible connections, I would say, very intelligent people over many years, and it forms a kind of a foundation of information.
And what I found really is that the questions and the people who participate in this program and the things that you send me and the responses that you give, you know, we're really developing this.
It's almost like a crowdsourced, Investigation because we're going up to a different level.
And the great thing about what we're doing is we know how to keep out the junk conspiracy elements.
That's an incredible kind of advantage.
It's like, you know, you ever see those hot air balloons take off and then you get rid of those sandbags, you know?
And it's really the junk conspiracy that holds things down.
And there's so many people in the grip of that stuff that one of the wonderful things I feel about our group here that is watching the X Steganography series with, you know, over these weeks, over 21 some odd weeks.
And I should mention here, actually, that we've passed over a million views on the X series, which is remarkable.
Considering the kind of content that it is, it's particularly remarkable.
And also the length of the shows, which usually run over two hours.
You know, it's a much deeper resonance that you get in this kind of fast food atmosphere that we can get in alternative media very often.
And I don't actually put down, there's a lot of good things in alternative media.
That's why I'm here.
But I do want to say that I think that we can do better.
And I think that this is where we can take it up a notch.
So, With all that in mind, I would say that it's really one of these things where I'm learning as much from you as you guys are from me, and that that's the kind of incredible reality that we have going on.
And for the people who over the years have stepped forward to give me information off the record, I really appreciate it, and I appreciate your courage.
And I will continue to look for ways to get your information across.
All right, but great question.
Let me take a quick look here.
Amazing.
It's a huge crowd, and I. I'm saying that we're doing Saturday night here, which is unusual for us, but yesterday we released an explosive, and I mean explosive, interview with Catherine Austin Fitz on her time finding out about HUD and its relationship to the Space Force and the space funding and the secret Space Force and that whole black budget, gigantic whirlpool that's grabbing this incredible missing trillions.
Catherine Austin Fitz and her research is, you know, it's still not.
Understood well enough.
And I would say that, you know, really, if you want the key to the solutions around things like the missing trillions or a lot of these things that come up, Fitz's work is unmatched.
And I often say that I'm one of those people who's proud to be a kind of a student at Solari University with Catherine Austin Fitz because her work is remarkable and has had a great effect on me over time.
In fact, when I was working with Apple, I was talking.
To Fitz, and she, you know, was somebody who was giving me incredible ideas back then about pushing forward.
And she's just been so on top of it from everything from GMOs to economic corruption to black budgets to reforming communities to, you know, organic farming.
I mean, it's just an incredible range that she has, and she's such an asset to have in the independent field that we really need to kind of celebrate her work and maybe.
You know, that's always a good place to point people to at solari.com and her incredible work.
But one of the things I want to say about that is, you know, we really have this ability with a group of people following the work that I'm doing here at the X Steganography series to raise the entire level of dialogue in the alternative research spectrum.
And that will ultimately impact the larger spectrum.
So I would say it's important.
In that sense, to take on the information and kind of spend the time with it and avoid the junk conspiracy.
Kind of get behind the things that are full of life and full of information.
I can tell you there's so much information that if, you know, it would take so much time to absorb the great information that there's really no time for the junk.
So that's my big message of the night.
Henry Ford's Psychic Connections00:06:04
But here we are on Saturday night.
And this is a rare night for us.
We do it once in a while when we have a double show or if we have something else going on on Friday.
So that's something to keep in mind.
It's nice to be here with you on the Saturday night.
Let's look through the connection of Henry Ford, who's one of our most celebrated inventors.
In America, and given us the great cars over the years.
He was a very controversial figure because he got himself involved in many a battle and he got into some business trouble.
He got into some race issues.
And, you know, there was a lot that came out as a result of that.
What I want to do is penetrate through to the man and what he was doing and the groups that were behind him.
So let's just take a quick look.
At Ford and reveal a few things to you that were really, I found quite mind blowing the more I get into him.
I've been reading Ford for years.
His biography is quite fascinating.
And I've always found him just a remarkable character, controversies and all.
This is Ford in his 20s working and actually working as a chief engineer for Edison.
Now, we know someone else who worked during that period of time for Edison, which was Nikola Tesla.
Something very fascinating about the fact that we bring in the mystery schools, in this case, the Theosophical Society, who I point to as the most crucial, and the spin offs that happen, the most important spin off being the Anthroposophical Society, which is autonomous because.
Of Steiner's work over the course of three decades to make it autonomous from theosophy ultimately.
So they do stand there as two pillars of incredible research and information, but there's no question that it was theosophy that laid the foundation in the 19th century for the mystery schools to come forward.
And Steiner himself, who's a remarkable figure that we've tracked here on this program and presented on this program, is still little understood over here, by the way.
He himself said that, well, when we think about theosophy, in truth, looking at its cradle, true initiators stood there.
So he understood it.
He was very connected and he was deep, deep inside the mystery schools and gave us a lot directly from them.
Ford connected with Edison, who was a member of the Theosophical Society.
Now, Ford believed in reincarnation.
Not a lot of people know that.
Ford had a very high spiritual understanding.
It's remarkable, actually.
Ford's good friend was Mahatma Gandhi.
Gandhi, known so much for achieving home rule for India and for his incredible pacifism, just a remarkable person.
Gandhi is a member of the Theosophical Society.
Who really sponsored Gandhi in his work originally?
For Theosophy.
Well, let's take a look at her.
I think she's somebody who's had such an incredible impact on the situation that we're in now that we should take a look at her.
You know, I've done a couple of shows on her, but we need to capture Annie Besant's role in the situation that we're in with the mystery schools, trying to give the information out against this incredible wave of spiritual materialism or scientific materialism that we're seeing.
And that is Annie Besant there, who, if you've watched this program, you know her quite well.
But she guided Gandhi and, in fact, marched with Gandhi in India because she'd been doing Home Rule.
Protests and all the rest of it for Ireland for years.
And she, of course, was British.
I think that when we understand the people that have been kind of whitewashed out of history or marginalized better, then we'll have a better understanding of these other figures that are elevated.
So we've got there that snapshot of Ford and Gandhi together.
Now we're going to introduce another important figure as we get into this, but there's another shot.
I like to show this shot.
I call this the X ritual, but this is Colonel Alcott who started Theosophy here, and Annie Besant, who he's handing the baton to, as Blavatsky did, and they are helping to achieve laying the foundations in the real world for the politics that will liberate India and bring home rule.
So they're not just sitting off in a monastery somewhere in a mystery school, they are developing the information and bringing themselves out to make change.
And this is what we see over and over again.
Well, how does that.
How does that link up with what we know about Ford?
Well, Ford is such an interesting figure because of his contacts that over and over again, the people that I'm running into are mystery school contacts.
So I started to wonder about that, and I ignored the traditional biography for a while.
And I'll read his traditional bio in a minute.
One of the things I want to get into about Ford is that it appears that this was somebody who was very psychically.
In touch and very psychically motivated and gifted, and was receiving a lot of psychic information and working with a lot of psychic groups.
Now, the technology makes a little more sense.
Trump's Invisible Plane Hat Trick00:09:19
So, let's start to look at his technological outlay.
This episode, you know, is called We're Talking All About Project X Tech, and that's invisibility.
Invisibility is something we've gotten into in a couple of episodes recently because we've been seeing these references to these invisible planes that President Trump is getting caught up in these controversies referencing.
What is that all about?
Well, invisibility is a crucial aspect of the apothecary effect that's being hidden in the UFO file.
Invisibility, from a military standpoint, has been studied and has been looked into, and we've had many unusual projects and legends of projects, like the Philadelphia experiment, for example.
But what we're looking at there is an incredible superiority brought about by incredible technology.
That's simple.
So let's look at it from that very simple level.
Recently, when looking at the different things that were coming up in relation to Trump and this invisible plane section, and I've shown these, which is that Trump has a habit of mentioning this technology.
And I just want to show a couple of quick examples of that.
Donald Trump thinks the F 35 is literally invisible.
The F 35 is actually built from the X 35, which we've shown their logo here, and we will again about the hat trick.
And what that whole pulling the rabbit out of the hat is all about with the three aces in it.
Now, rather than just sort of run around after symbology, it seems to me putting that directly as a patch for the X 35 plane is telling us something, especially the term hat trick in quotes, gives us an idea that we're talking about a hat trick, something appearing and disappearing.
I think that's pretty obvious.
I don't think that we have to be labeled conspiracy theorists for thinking there's something a little bit odd about the hat trick mentioned, especially since he's calling it literally invisible.
Now, that's Trump there at a meeting, Lockheed Martin.
Talking about it.
Here's more picking up on that.
Huffington Post.
Seven times Trump bragged about planes that literally don't exist.
What's he talking about?
The F 35, which is based on the X 35, which comes out of Walter Dornberger's X planes.
These are the advanced planes that were brought over by the paperclip scientists and hidden in the UFO file.
And by the way, you could say that they had good reason for hiding it because they had.
As we do now, we have all these enemies, and we don't want them to acquire the technology.
The baseline secrecy is understandable when it comes to this.
The intense secrecy around the UFO file is a different matter completely.
Here's another one Trump's bizarre comments about invisible planes to the Coast Guard, read them in full.
That's the Independent.
These are documented.
There's actually, from Trump now, I'm counting nine different references to invisible planes in a public setting.
That's a lot.
So, Obviously, his staff would say, Well, you know, don't talk about those invisible planes, please.
It's giving you a lot of controversy.
But Trump is talking about it because Trump wants someone to know that he's got it as a way to say, Back off, I've got this technology.
Trump thinks stealth planes are invisible.
This is from Now This, which is syndicated.
And there he is.
And there they are showing the Wonder Woman graphic that we showed five days before in our episode and talking about this.
I thought that was kind of ironic.
So, invisible planes are now.
On the playing field as something to be figured out.
And there's a lot of backtracking in the media saying how scandalous it is that Trump has mentioned this.
Well, is it?
Or is he trying to graduate us?
Or is it a slip of the tongue?
It seems to me it's more than a slip of the tongue.
Well, let's look at other groups who've talked about invisibility.
And this, I think, is quite significant because when we get into tracking the X technology all the way back to Ford and the Nazis, We need to look at where that technology went.
And that technology, through companies like Mercedes Benz, which were great recipients of the technology of the time, have developed it since.
So, Mercedes Benz went on this incredible campaign just a few years ago to give us a promo for something they called the Invisible Car.
I want us all to take a look at this.
They covered it for mystery when they were setting it up, and they used different light bending LED screens.
And they wanted us to kind of give this impression of being able to see through this car.
And it was an incredible campaign.
And they were saying something about hey, look, we have an invisible carbon footprint.
Seemed like an odd thing to use invisible this and invisible that.
And they went into great lengths to get this invisibility factor going directly so that visually, now remember, this is not Photoshop.
Those are actual cars on an actual road.
The way that they're filming them is giving them the impression.
Of invisibility.
So they're introducing the public to this idea of invisibility.
Now Trump's talking about invisibility.
Now we get to put these aspects together.
Now, don't worry, we're going to go back and see where the root of this is, but I want to show a few more examples so we're all on the same page.
And remember, if you want to look at the hat trick that I showed the X 35, which is, remember, ostensibly now this is the model.
The F 35 came from the X 35.
This is the technology that Trump is referring to.
That's the hat trick there, as we know.
X 35 flight tests, three aces, missing the ace of spades.
Boy, have we had some good.
Questions around that, and some really good, I think, people doing genuine work around it.
There it is again.
There's the Mercedes Benz test.
What's going on there?
Why are they emphasizing this invisibility?
By the way, they're not able to hide the wheels, as you can see, because the wheels and the way that that works somehow this trick, this invisibility trick, didn't quite cut it.
So we've got Trump talking about invisible planes.
We have Mercedes Benz showing, hey, look, it's invisible car time.
If they had an invisible car, is that something that they could get out on the road?
I mean, is it something that they could market as a technology?
If we had invisible technology, of course, not only are we kind of the superpower of the world right now, but that would make us even more beyond the superpower if we have invisible technology.
Are they letting it out?
Are they telling it for the public to see in little ways?
Here's another report on it.
New trend.
Everyone from Harry Potter to Frodo Baggins has already got an invisibility cloak.
Taking the principle that to see something, you need to see what's behind it, they covered the driver's side of the car in mats of LEDs and mounted a digital SLR camera on the opposite side of the vehicle to create this.
What is it?
That's really a potheum effect, at least visually.
So, now one of the things I pointed out on the show is that the frequency in the UFO file and in the UFO cases that we've seen.
And we actually, Olivia and I were just looking at a case that Linda Moulton Howe did, which was all about these UFOs that disappeared.
But I tracked this case from 1943, where a plane actually flew into one of these invisible craft and was destroyed.
So then we started going through it and seeing reference over and over and over again to this invisibility cloak on the UFOs that exists in a lot of cases.
And, you know, I started to realize when people were saying, you know, I looked at the craft, I was looking at Charlie Fultz's testimony about looking at the Allagash incident craft.
And he looks at the craft and he says, it's just gone.
And I was thinking to myself, huh, is it like that though, or is it just disappearing?
And over and over again, when you go through these cases where they say, oh, it just jets out of here, actually, what happens if you read the testimony is it blinks out.
That's what they actually say when they're pressed a little bit on it.
It doesn't take off fast, it blinks out.
It's totally different kind of technology.
And that's something that I think was developed.
You know, we were able to get our hands on some of that.
It was developed in our own programs, also, in addition to whatever it was these people were seeing.
But we won't make too many conclusions about that just yet.
Let's see where this could have come from, just to get an idea from it.
Let's take a look at some of the models that Henry Ford kept secret.
I think that when we look at Ford, we have to keep a couple of things in mind.
Exploiting Tesla for Hitler00:02:46
He's a master mason.
That's one incredible connection there.
Incredibly connected to people who are deep in the Theosophical Society, deep believer in spiritual traditions, but reincarnation, which is really edgy in him and his field, you know, which is really kind of like Middle America, Christian, straight ahead kind of a thing.
He's the chief engineer for Edison, who is a Theosophist working with Tesla and exploiting Tesla, as we know.
And his connections take us to Gandhi, but it will also, his connections are eventually going to take us to Krishnamurti, and I'm going to show that in this episode.
And Krishnamurti was the height of what the Theosophical Society was trying to do.
So we need to understand the Mistress School connection to the extegonography, to the UFO file, to get at the extec.
Is that reasonable enough?
Okay.
And it seems that whenever we get into this lane, whenever we're studying this, we always, and I mean always, without a doubt, run smack.
Dab into the JFK assassination.
Inevitably, the battle that took place during the Kennedy years is reflected in this entire understanding of the secrecy around space.
So that's the way I'll put that.
The Foreign Foundation, their chairman was John J. McCloy.
John J. McCloy is a very unusual history.
He was the head of the Chase Manhattan Bank and he was appointed to the Warren Commission.
He was one of the people in the Warren Commission who did the whitewash on the Kennedy assassination.
But he also is one of the people, and thank God we have Joseph Farrell to inform us about this, who released thousands of Nazis from the Nuremberg trials.
And he was a big part of the reconstruction of Germany.
Now, also interesting in this regard is that McCloy shared an actual booth during the 1936 Olympics with none other than.
Adolf Hitler.
Now, Hitler, of course, is a major kind of tracker of this X tech because he's working closely to develop this wonder weapon.
And there's a lot of very mysterious things about Hitler.
I try not to emphasize, you know, everyone would say, well, Hitler had a super weapon, you know, and we know about the Nazi bell.
We're starting to get information about it.
But now I think we have a good link into the Hitler story.
So I'm going to bring him in as we get into the forward.
Story deeper.
Tracing Moving Advanced Tech00:15:25
Let's take a look at Ford's secret X engine.
It's called the X8.
It was created in December 1925.
It's here.
The first engine that used this X shape.
The patents are quite remarkable.
There's another look at it.
By the way, this technology went underground.
And I'll explain how that works shortly here.
This is Ford's breakthrough in the 20s.
He thinks I'm going to revolutionize the whole car industry with this X engine.
What is it?
What does it do?
Let's track it a little bit further first before we get to that answer.
Yeah, yeah, that's a good one too.
Well, I'm doing this, Miss Olivia.
How are you doing over there?
I'm doing great.
You want to comment?
Please do.
Okay, Dana Donaway says Katmaustin Fitz basically suggests a global drug pushing is used to support the black ops, black budget with its missing trillions.
Are aliens pleased?
Well, I don't know what happened the last time you talked to them and asked them.
That's the question, Dave.
I think, though, that we have established that Catherine does believe that they're at the top of the very top of the pyramid, that they're making off worlders.
That's very different, yeah.
Well, it's a really interesting question, actually, because the drug trade.
Is used for control.
I think that's the thing that Fitz emphasizes in the black budget sense because it actually, there's financial rewards dramatically, and we've seen it destroy neighborhoods.
But the control aspect that it uses, where you can control a place with drugs, seems to be what they use it for the most.
But I think that you can look at it as a strictly human endeavor.
You don't need to invite the alien equation in in order to look at that.
And I think that we have to be careful about.
When we look at off world civilizations trying to determine how they would view something, it's really, really tricky.
We have a much better shot at determining human motivations.
And that's a thing I think that we're starting to get to with these people.
When we're looking at the kind of controllers of the world, the Mr. Global, you know, the powers that are operating, and we ask the Fitz question, which is what is the real source of power on Earth?
And, you know, who are the real powers?
And why are they acting this way?
We can do that in strictly human terms and still get the right answers.
Now, the off world civilizations question has to be asked given the grand total of the information we have.
So, that's a question I guess that we're endeavoring to find out.
But, great question.
Wow.
And I think that David Donaway, wasn't he giving like a sermon or something before we came on?
It was interesting.
I didn't get to catch it, but I definitely.
He had his own warm up act.
I can't, you know, I didn't read it, so I can't endorse it, but I do know that your questions are always fascinating.
Okay.
More X, are you with me?
I'm going to show you this X engine just to let it sink in.
Let's stay on, let's stay with it, let's stay with it.
Okay, so there might be different explanations, and you could say, well, you know, this is kind of a good engine for, you know, Different combustion reasons and all the rest of it.
The X shape struck me as quite fascinating, and then I started to get into the association of Ford with the Nazis.
This is actually very interesting.
Hitler, who had a Mercedes developed just for him at his rallies, here we go.
That is Hitler's Mercedes there, and they actually sold one of these, and it was quite remarkable because.
In the Mercedes, the wheel being an X, I found really quite interesting.
I hadn't been aware of it.
And you know that when we do this research, some people would say, well, you start seeing X's everywhere.
Well, when you get into Mercedes Benz working with Ford's X engine and you get into Hitler, then it starts to make a little more sense when you see something like that.
It's okay, I think, to start to tie it in together.
This is the inside of Hitler's Mercedes.
And you know, they did put this together and they put it out for auction, which I found was very interesting because you know, those Hitler artifacts somebody just scoops them up, you know, and they always figure it's a neo Nazi group.
But sometimes I wonder.
Hitler took a great role in trying to design art and architecture for Nazi Germany.
And the technology he was absolutely obsessed with.
He wanted the wonder weapons, but he wanted the design to be such.
There is Hitler at a museum.
This is somebody who, of course, was an art student who they didn't allow into the School of Vienna.
And, you know, it might have been a very different outcome in World War II had they done that.
Hitler admired Ford a great deal, which is something interesting for us to even consider.
But people say, well, that's because he was anti Semitic.
Could be, could be, or maybe something else is at work there.
Maybe he's aware that the X technology is somehow moving through Ford.
The X technology going from the mystery schools through somebody like Ford, we would have something like the Theosophical Society is the link to him through Edison.
Let's just take a look at that for a moment.
Hitler is very aware of these things, from the Tula Society to the real society and these different groups.
Hitler is deeply enamored of occult schools and some of the deeper mystery schools and probably wants to make more contact in order to have more power.
So his respect and his recognition for Ford might be based on more than just saying he made a few anti Semitic comments.
What I do find interesting about Hitler is his absolute obsession.
With advanced tech that he had.
And he, of course, one of his major ideas was to develop in space the kind of weapons that could create a global control grid.
This is something that, you know, we have researchers now who say, hey, the paperclip Nazis came over here.
And that's basically what we're seeing now with the space fence through Lockheed Martin.
I think it's a worthy thing to consider.
Ford, who gave us so much in the way of imagination and He created the assembly line.
But he did certain things, which I want to give him a fair shake here, where he treated his employees extraordinarily well.
This is somebody who created the first minimum wage, and it was way beyond anything that people were making at the time.
He felt that by making the common man more well off, they'd be able to buy the cars that he was pumping out.
It was a splendidly clever, logical deduction.
And people like the Walmart type people could certainly benefit from using his.
Sound approach to it.
It was a very human idea.
And he was known for doing different charity work.
So he's a very complex character when you get into looking at some of the controversies around him.
But there's no doubt in 1938 that he was somebody who in Germany was so well respected that he was given awards that were only given to German citizens.
And he achieved the highest award that a non German citizen could achieve.
And this is the Nazis giving him that award in 1938 before war broke out.
Now, it's interesting, you might say, how could he ever be there with those Nazis and all the rest of it?
Well, most of the civilized world was there with the Nazis in the 1936 Olympics because Germany hosted it and it was Nazi Germany.
So they were still keeping the kind of intense subjugation of different peoples off the radar.
They were still hiding a lot of this fact.
And this is pre war, things were a little bit different there.
But a kind of a quite remarkable situation there in the association of Ford with the Nazis.
What do you got?
I just wanted to add, you know, I think that we can understand that in the early 20th century, there was such an excitement over new technology and new efficiency and like an exuberance about it.
This is pre World War II.
Nobody knew where this could lead.
And so we can see we have fascination now with iPhones.
And, you know, we in this community are frightened about AI, but, you know, others are so excited bring it on, you know, new, better robots, let's go.
And I think they.
They really felt that.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Well, it's an amazing period of development.
And we have to say that really the Germans, you know, they had the first television broadcast in 1936.
They broadcast the Olympics, actually.
We didn't get it in America until 1950.
They were advanced in so many different ways that, in fact, defeating Germany, not necessarily the Nazi Party, but defeating Germany in 1945 and taking many of their scientists here created so many things like the space program, et cetera, and made those things possible.
That you can see just how advanced Germany was at that point.
But this kind of martial philosophy that developed inside the Nazi party became like a real spin on how that technology was used.
And just like, you know, we were talking about, well, right now people can go crazy for different types of technology that we have.
We have to be careful as we take the next step up with these technologies not to lose the human factor because a small group of corporate people have forgotten their role in humanity and are starting to imagine. themselves as great controllers at Davos, sitting there sipping lattes, trying to rule the world.
It's weird.
It's a funny thing that we did the Gurdjieff episode last week because there's a weird mechanism in people's minds and it lends themselves to daydreaming and incredible egotism.
And then when we look at the work of people like Steiner, we can see these incredible dark forces influencing people who get into these positions.
So it's really a complex situation when you get up at that level for sure.
So what we've got is we have.
Hitler approving of Ford and Ford, you know, having these kind of back channel affairs with the Nazis and getting these medals and all the rest of it.
But Ford had developed the X8, and the X8 was an experimental motor and it went underground in 1932.
They gave up on it.
Well, I don't think that they did, actually.
And I think that there are ways to show that lineage that goes on.
And what happens, interestingly enough, is Ford gets into working on aeronautics.
Which he's not really very well known for, but actually in 2002, they gave a posthumous award to him for his aviation and his developments in aerospace.
It's like, what's going on there?
I believe the X 8 was taken black in the early 30s because it was used as part of this black technology, but I think before the Americans really figured out what was going on, Henry Ford had somehow.
This technology had come into the hands of Mercedes Benz.
I'm going to kind of back this up a little bit as we go.
But let's take a quick look at Mercedes Benz.
This was really a Nazi company.
And people have done really kind of good bios on the companies and on the figures behind it.
What I want to point out is what was it that was going on here with the technology that they suddenly had in spades?
And remember Walter Dornberger being in charge of the rocket program for the Nazis and coming over here and creating the X tech.
You can see the link directly because I've traced the X planes directly through Dornberger's work in the 30s.
A lot of people would say, you know, Dernberger is actually Werner von Braun's mentor.
He's his commander.
So von Braun was just a 22 year old kid working under Dernberger.
So when we go all after von Braun and try to figure out all of his stuff, it's really Dernberger that we need to be paying attention to.
Of course, I've pointed out the links between Dernberger and the JFK assassination, which are really bizarre Michael Payne worked for him and the Paynes were the hosts of the Oswald.
And it's so off the wall.
And that Bell Helicopter is right in the middle of all that, and Dornberger is the president of Bell Helicopter, and saved from the guillotine in Nazi Germany at the Nuremberg trials for using slave labor and the camps by John J. McCloy, who becomes the president of the Ford Foundation.
By the way, people were very upset with McCloy when he got into the Ford Foundation because he kept appointing CIA agents as trustees.
So, there's something very strange about the technology that Ford developed, the liaisons he had with these Nazis, how that technology kind of peaked with Mercedes Benz, and then we got Dornberger to continue the X series here.
I think we're tracing and tracking a technology that moves.
And it moves from America to Germany and then back to America again.
Now, we've tracked it from the mystery schools and through the work of.
You know, Annie Besant, who was given all the John Keeley advanced technology at the end of the 19th century and decided, oh, the public's not ready for this.
So, on one hand, you have people protecting us from this corporate raiders.
And, you know, you have Helena Blavatsky in the middle of The Secret Doctrine, which is the key Theosophical book, chapters on chapters of John Keeley and how the mystery schools can't let this technology out.
There's a great report about John Keeley, and I'm bringing him in here, kind of, you know, he's connected.
If you watch the X shows, you know very well who he is, but he's this extraordinary inventor from.
The late 40s is very much like the Philadelphia version of Tesla, let's say.
But what he does is he demonstrates an airship for the military in 1897.
Huxley, Pacifism, and Space Planes00:10:58
And according to the person who was there, the thing could fly 500 miles an hour.
Now, was that accurate?
Was the person making a mistake?
Possibly.
But if they had 500 miles an hour technology, then it's quite compelling.
It's something that we would like to know.
And so it's more than just a curiosity.
And that technology we know got shipped off to the Theosophical Society.
When Keeley died, and that these kind of corporate raiders wanted that, but that Annie Besant decided to hide it at that point.
So these things have to be kept in mind.
Let's keep going.
Just a quick look at some of where that X technology went.
This is in Nazi Germany, the Fritz X radio guided bomb.
And the X technology, it appears to me, got used into the development of the first space planes, which is something that we also see popping up in Germany.
This article from 1973 shows some of the first revelations about the X engine in public after it went black.
And it's called Experimental Ford Engines.
And it's an interesting little article.
It's from special.
Actually, there's a couple of different journal names, but this one is Special Interest Electronics.
And it's called Another Great Archaeological Discovery, where they go through these different motors that Ford left.
Behind.
And, you know, some of it's just innocuous.
It's like, well, there's the motor and all the rest of it.
But the X8 is always unusual.
People don't even know why it didn't go into mass production or why, in the first place, Ford put so much into it.
I think that the X was the X 8 was the version that was going to be the public version of the X technology.
Here it is, a la Keeley in the late 1890s.
And it never made it out, but it made it out through Ford.
And then again, it got snuffed and created a black program.
And then somehow, and this is the part that's not particularly clear, which is that the Nazis appear to have gotten their hands on it.
So, this is where the X question has led us.
But let's explore for a moment someone who was very close with the efforts that Ford was making on the pacifist side.
This is another very compelling thing.
He didn't want the world to go to war again.
And he was working with Woodrow Wilson on the League of Nations.
And he was trying to keep us out of foreign wars.
He thought the incredible destruction of World War I was a tragedy.
And he was right.
So then, next up, he joins up with Gandhi, as we showed earlier.
But who did Gandhi join up with but for this pacifist approach?
Aldous Huxley.
Now, Huxley's a fascinating character, and he wrote Brave New World.
And in Brave New World, they celebrate Ford as the year of our Ford, the way we would celebrate Christ.
That's the beginning.
And the beginning is 1926.
Interestingly enough, 1926 is when the X engine is.
Comes out.
That's when the first patent of it comes out.
So I thought that was fascinating.
Of course, Ford did other incredible things in 1926, as we know.
Still thought that was kind of a fascinating twist.
Huxley writes Brave New World, and all the figures in it have this kind of, you know, glamorize this kind of manufacturing assembly line.
And so Ford is the ultimate kind of transhumanist symbol.
So he becomes God, basically.
So an interesting quote from From Huxley in relation to this, when he was talking to George Orwell, he said, Within the next generation, I believe that the world's leaders will discover that infant conditioning and narco hypnosis are more efficient as instruments of government than clubs and prisons, and that the lust for power can be just as completely satisfied by suggesting people into loving their servitude as by flogging them and kicking them into obedience.
Now, Huxley wasn't suggesting this was a great thing.
He was saying, inevitably, this is where society is moving.
And in his incredible novel, Brave New World, We can see he predicted so many of the transhumanist elements that we're seeing coming out now with so much of the pharmaceutical Frankenstein that we've created.
I find that really quite fascinating.
And we're going to just explore a side angle on Huxley for a moment, which is that he became neighbors with Krishnamurti.
And Krishnamurti, of course, as we know, this is him much younger, but that's Krishnamurti, who Annie Besant brought over to America from India.
To Britain from India to become the world teacher.
He was going to become Maitreya, the Lord, the main teacher.
That's what Theosophical Society had built this whole thing up.
And this was not, by the way, Blavatsky's doctrine.
This was really something that Basant came up with Ledbetter.
So here we have Huxley and Krishnamurti, neighbors in Ojai, California, working together tight.
As a matter of fact, and I have it here somewhere, which is that Huxley actually wrote forwards to.
There it is.
To Krishnamurti's book.
So, what are we looking at here?
Pacifists, the mystery schools, the X technology, and the war machine all playing in the middle of this X technology.
So, we're getting very, very deep into where the technology went and how this whole thing about the UFO file happened.
So, but when we look at it and we're looking at Ford and we're looking at this Nazi kind of co opting of the technology and the pacifism coming from people who were deeply associated with the mystery schools, like Krishnamurti and through Krishnamurti Huxley.
And then Gandhi with Ford and Ford being a pacifist, you know, this picture is starting to get very interesting.
It's like the mystery schools are trying something.
They're trying to put the technology out as a way so that a world war doesn't happen.
But instead, small groups get their hands on the technology and use it to create a V 2 rocket through somebody like Walter Dornberger.
And then when we have to, you know, take on a world war and defeat Germany, what we do is we grab those people back and we say, okay, you know, we're going to use this technology for the space program.
So, there's that tussle, I think, that's going on.
And then, when we move into the future and we're looking at the Space Force and the things that Trump is saying about invisible planes, and we're getting into this, you know, what I call apothecary idea around the UFO file, and we're seeing that's reflected in many cases when there's, you know, companies like Mercedes Benz who are deep in this clash of the X technology in the 30s with Ford, the pacifist, going to the Nazis and saying, here's the X technology.
Then, I think we're looking at a very unusual situation.
You know, it's sort of like these companies, the corporations are the inheritors of this X technology, and they are the ones who are managing the aspects, like the invisibility, for example.
So Trump is there mouthing off to Lockheed Martin and saying, We have invisible this and invisible that.
And it's sort of a way of bringing them to the table and saying, I know your secrets.
I mean, I think you can really view it that way.
So the X technology and the mystery that we have going on here, I think, extends across decades.
Here's another.
Little hint when we're looking at theosophy, too, which is that, you know, Besant, in bringing Krishnamurti to the public, this is not an egotistical thing, but it is a willful thing to kind of force the world teacher to come here and, you know, fix the situation before the world wars destroy the world.
And so these are kind of acts of desperation, you could say, also on behalf of people who've been watching the situation very closely.
Clued in from the mystery school angles.
So the mystery schools are something that I think we can understand as they're putting forward different efforts at different times.
And sometimes those efforts explode.
Maybe like the effort to try to reach out and pacify elements in Nazi Germany completely exploded in their face.
It's possible.
One thing I want to point out about this X technology is that the Horton brothers, who are really some of the most advanced people.
Working with Dornberger and they created the first space planes.
They're the first rocket planes.
Of course, Dornberger creates these incredible space planes for the American program in the 60s that still hold speed records with that X technology, which is still not very well explained 50 years later.
But anyway, the Horton brothers are incredible, you know, advanced inventors and they create the Horton HO 229, which goes 600 miles an hour.
It's the first stealth aircraft.
There's your X technology.
Stealth in World War II.
So, you know, we didn't develop our stealth stuff until, I mean, the U 2 is 1959.
So, you know, incredibly advanced stuff.
The Horton brothers, by the way, interestingly enough, this is something that Joseph Farrell points out very often the Horton brothers were on the top of the itinerary of the American military as soon as the Roswell case happened because they attributed these weird sightings that Kenneth Arnold had seen to the Horton flying wing.
And there's a whole group of researchers who look at that.
And I do think it's compelling because I do feel that this incredible kind of invisible UFO idea is linked with the fact that some of these sightings are, you know, you might be saying these are off world craft, but in some of the sightings, you could also say they really are these experimental Nazi craft.
But the Horton brothers weren't in Germany anymore after World War II.
They'd gone to where?
Argentina and were protected down there too.
So there's a, there's a, Piece, there's a chapter missing in our understanding, just like with the Nazi bill.
And the X is quite a significant piece that's missing there when we look at World War II.
We're starting to get a hint of it through the work of Ford and his closeness with the Nazis and the pacifist movement of the mystery schools, trying to prevent a third, second world war.
I'm sure they're busy trying to prevent a third one right now.
And with that, I am going to turn it over to Miss Olivia.
Militarizing the Missing Chapter00:03:36
Yes, you're right.
Okay.
Would you like to address the fact that Kennedy died in a Ford limo?
Wow.
It is disturbing.
I think what's interesting is what they did with that limo after the fact.
Of course, ordinarily you would keep it in the case of a trial.
They must have known there wasn't going to be a trial because they immediately took it to a Ford factory and had the windshield replaced.
And in fact, oddly enough, LBJ would drive around in it afterwards, which I find a little bit creepy considering all the knowledge and information we have about him being involved in the crime.
It seems a tad morbid, let's say.
One thing I want to point out in terms of JFK, if I didn't get to it, which is that JFK's general attitude was that he didn't want the Nazi scientists that we brought over here to get too far ahead of what NASA was trying to do.
He didn't want them to form their own little band.
And in fact, that they did, and that disturbed him.
And I point out on this program very often the actions he took with Blue Gemini, pulling that back from NASA and the Nazi group that was.
Working to create this kind of space superiority at the time.
He did not want the space program used for militaristic purposes.
That's all we hear about now, which is the militarism and the militarization of space.
There are actually treaties from 1968 that prevent this.
So keep that in mind as we go here that there's no reason to militarize space.
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Okay, what do you have?
Okay, JJK, do you think that the letter of LBJ perhaps is an admission of guilt for JFK's death?
It could be.
Look, my feeling is that they only leave behind letters as either a threat to somebody else to say, if you ever do anything, I'll let that letter out, or to claim credit.
It doesn't seem to me that admissions would be really on their mind, but you never know.
It's a great question.
By the way, that is the cross that they have in Brave New World for R. Ford, very much like the Christian cross.
Do you like that, Olivia?
In the year of office.
Oh, wow.
Fantastic.
Okay.
Dean Acheson and X Technology00:15:21
Brandon Jimenez has been asking Dean Acheson, did he move the X Tech around?
Dean Acheson is a deep, deep character.
It's too deep to get into for this.
He certainly was a Cold War operator and he was involved with the Office of Policy Coordination, which is the early version of the CIA, or you could actually say the off world bizarro version of the CIA.
And the Office of Policy Coordination, which has this kind of nice, lilting little title, they're responsible for overthrowing elections and throwing governments out and stuff.
And that became that wing of the CIA that Truman decided was just out of control.
And Eisenhower had the same type of thing.
And by the time you get to Kennedy, he just thinks that it's a separate government entirely.
But Dean Acheson is right in the middle of that, a real hard nosed cold warrior.
I don't have any information about Dean Acheson's.
Connection with the X tech, but I think he's a good place to look for sure.
By the way, there's a nice shot of Hitler with that Mercedes Benz we were looking at earlier.
There's no question about it.
Hitler wanted the very best, and there we had it.
And of course, Hitler's control of Germany from 1933 to 1945, completely dominating the scene as the dictator for 12 years after being marginalized in the early 20s and writing Mein Kampf.
These things, you know, when we really look at Hitler, I still do not have the clear, complete picture on Hitler.
Um, and I think it's kind of important for us to look at things like the X tech.
It appears to me now, this and I would say this is speculation, but it appears to me that Hitler was promised this X tech, and I don't think that he was looking for it with the wonder weapons.
And he certainly put his team with what he had to develop these incredible weapons, but wherever he was promised this X technology, he thought it was going to deliver.
Him during World War II at the end when he had gone into this frenzy and attacked Russia as well as America and the UK.
He was fighting a battle on the East and on the West, which was a classic recipe for failure, as Napoleon could tell him.
And it's kind of fascinating because when we look at that, you think, what on earth was he thinking?
And people would say, well, he was developing nuclear weapons or whatever.
But I think that he felt that he was getting his hands on the sex technology and was going to be able to use it.
That's why the wonder weapons are such a strange chapter towards the end of the war.
Hitler's thinking, we can win, we can win.
When, you know, even by the end, the Russians are surrounding his bunker in Berlin, there's something very odd about that.
That's where the X can give us answers on the historical record that are just sitting there.
So you can see how important this is and to the future.
Okay, I'm sorry, go for it.
Okay, Ada Welsh, DJ, since we know about high jump, paperclip, et cetera, did we really win World War II?
Well, we, America and the Allies won World War II.
That's pretty clear.
But there were things that were unclear about the victory.
That is, not all the aspects that you would expect.
Jim Mars used to point out to me, and he passed away last year, but what an incredible researcher he was.
And we had long, long conversations where he gave me a lot of insight into that and his study around the Nazis.
And he said, you know, it's true that the German.
Party, you know, the German military did surrender to the Allies, but there were no Nazi representatives when they did.
I thought that was quite unusual.
People like Peter Lavenda have done great work about the rat lines, for example, and escaping Nazis through the Vatican as, you know, it became more and more obvious that they were going to lose the war.
I think it is remarkable the work of Joseph Farrell on the incredible renaissance of technology in Argentina around the Bell and You know, these different technologies that were used and how we only found out about the bell, remember, in 1990 with the reunification of Germany and these court documents coming out.
Historians, researchers, nobody even had information on the bell or knew what it was until 1990.
So let's think about that.
I mean, we still, the picture of this stuff look, the X planes, most of the information was only declassified in 2014.
If some of that information wasn't declassified, I probably wouldn't be sitting here talking to you about the X planes because we wouldn't know anything about them.
Let's think about that.
It's an what is it?
It's a what if, it's an alternate timeline.
Okay.
Okay.
David Tormina.
So, DJ, Ford's X engine went black?
Yeah.
Well, here's the thing the Ford technology, it's weird because I found a Jaguar from 2005 that referenced that engine from 1926.
But in 1933, officially, they gave up.
Work on the Ford X8 engine.
That's going black to me inside a corporation.
In other words, later after the war, we have systems for how things go black.
You know, the military stops funding it.
But when a corporation is creating a model and then somebody deep, deep in the power structure says, he's bringing the X technology out, it's too early, or it's going to dominate the situation, or we're not going to share that with the public, then there are ways and means to shut it down.
And so the official story is that it was from lack of popularity or something ridiculous like that.
But if you go into that story about the X8 engine, it's very unusual.
There's tons of missing information and intel about what Ford was trying to do.
But I will tell you this he was the most excited about the X8.
They said, you know, if you go into the record on it, he was so excited about bringing this out to the public.
And there is something with all the controversies, there's a great altruism to Ford.
Which is, he does seem to have this kind of middle America idea of creating fairness, creating balance.
But then, you know, he has the contradictions that people have pointed out also.
Okay, what else do you think?
Okay, so Daphne 18 says, Could the X engine be connected to Tesla's alternating current motor?
And Peter Bayonne says, Was Edison keeping tabs on Tesla for the Theosophical Society?
Good, good, good question.
Well, I'll tell you what I did find out about Edison in relation to Ford, which is that he was the one who said, You should take your ideas on the side of automobiles and really put them into use.
And he supported Ford in that endeavor.
So he had him as an engineer.
As a chief engineer, and he had this relationship with them.
Now, Edison being part of Theosophy, look, Edison's a guy who got a reading from Edgar Cayce.
Okay, let's think about that.
And I'm going to take a really wild spin with your question and bring Edgar Cayce in here.
Edgar Cayce talked about a technology that the Atlanteans had, which could go invisible and fly through mountains.
So actually, lose mass and then recreate itself.
That's Pothium.
In the way that I describe it, it's an effect that changes the physical laws as we know it.
So, if they could do that, you know, people talk so much, and I've wondered so much when I've looked through the history.
You know, we have these incredible pictures, like the incredible Stella of the, and I show it on this program, and I have it here.
I'll show it before we're done of the, you know, the Egyptian hieroglyphs that look like a helicopter, a tank, and a submarine, and all the rest of it.
And by the way, that's absolutely bona fide and absolutely real.
And I've had major archaeologists tell me how it was discovered.
And it was discovered because it was under another stela that was put over it by a different dynasty.
So it was old.
And it was covered up back then because it gave depictions of these ships and things, which the public wasn't seeing anymore.
So, but in the Atlantean periods, in the early Egyptian periods, these flying ships, these airships that are talked about so much in anthroposophy and theosophy, they were there.
So, my question was Did they use this cloaking invisibility and continue to use the technology and just not share it with the public because they had remembered the incredible destruction around Atlantis?
So, was there a small group using that technology that just didn't want anyone to see renditions and pictures of that incredible technology anymore?
Because they might ask, Hey, what is that thing?
It looks like an airplane.
So, I think that that's the compelling road that we take here is that every time we attack the subject and research the subject of The X technology in the 20th century into the 21st century and where we are now, we can always double back and see how they covered it up back then and to kind of track that X effect.
Okay.
Okay.
So they're here says Nazis from Antarctica do the 1952 capital flyover right after Bird went to Antarctica after the war?
I think it is significant.
And you hear a lot of nonsense about Antarctica, unfortunately.
I'm not pleased that we have so much junk around Antarctica.
Admiral Byrd did go there and he did report these disks flying all over the place and he did cut his expedition short.
Who was there and what were they doing?
You know, it sounds like it's deep in the UFO file.
And the idea is, you know, there's only a few possibilities for who would have that kind of technology.
You know, an advanced civilization that was still operating side by side with us here, but keeping their presence unknown, an off world civilization, or a kind of like a, you know, the Germans, the Nazis, a small Nazi group that had decided to survive the war with the way we know that some Japanese did after the war.
It wasn't very successful for them.
So there's a lot, a lot of questions there.
And my feeling is that.
We get the best work.
I did an episode which has over 200,000 views now with Dr. Joseph Farrell, which is a two parter on Antarctica, where we study Antarctica, Atlantis, and the Casey readings.
And that's, I think, one of the more solid places to go.
One of the more modern things I think that's been pointed out, which is that Fitz, Catherine Austin Fitz, has attributed this connection with Lockheed Martin to Antarctica and some of the programs that are going on there.
So that's a real connection.
And it's I think it's a fascinating subject.
In a way, Antarctica is harder to get information on than space, because at least with space, you can pick out a telescope or whatever.
Antarctica is just this incredible, untouchable.
So we do know that in the Pyrrhus map, this is one last thing I want to point out here.
In the Pyrrhus map, Antarctica shows up without ice on it, which means it could have been a very advanced civilization that during the pole shift that took place probably 12,000 years ago, somewhere in there, we know there was a major event that took place.
Casey points to a pole shift, the date moves around, but basically, this is what could be happening there, which is as that ice, as we get to penetrate that ice, we're seeing there was a civilization there.
It's quite possible.
Okay.
Okay.
This is so great.
Everyone's got such good questions there.
They're fantastic.
Okay.
Bo Krills, Daniel has mentioned the Dornberger von Braun connection.
What about Hermann Oberth, who said, The fact is, when it comes to German high technology, we've been helped.
Right.
We had help.
Absolutely.
And, um, We know that Carol Rosen, who had this incredible relationship with Von Braun after he was here in America.
I think it's quite interesting, actually, when he was working for Fairchild Industries and the things that he shared with her and the things that he told her about.
One interesting thing that I found about their relationship was that one time he was sick in a hospital, but he still wanted to give this lecture, so he wanted her to do the lecture.
And she said, I can't handle that lecture.
And he said, I'll tell you.
What to say.
And she said, How are you going to do that?
And he said, Don't worry, just go there and it'll be fine.
I'll basically transmit it to you.
And she's like, What?
So she goes there and she goes to give this speech.
And, you know, if Carol's watching, you can probably explain it better than I can.
But basically, she hears him in this hospital bed giving her this information and what to say.
So he says a little something and she repeats it.
And that's how she gives the speech and everything goes hunky dory.
So, you know, that's the 70s, right?
Quite remarkable technology going on there that's not shared with the public.
Or was he sharing it psychically?
Or is there some kind of mix with the Nazis of a psychic technology that is also telepathy?
There's a lot of unanswered questions, but I think when we get into those relationships, we see glimpses of it.
Griffin Eagle 7 Was a treaty signed at Antarctica?
Isn't that interesting?
I don't think there's any proof of that, but I do find it interesting when those things come up.
But, you know, it's hard to say.
The idea is that it's quite possible that with the Admiral Byrd story, we could see possibly, if it were an off world civilization, it's kind of a great place for a base because no one ever goes there.
So let's think of it that way.
So, in that sense, I don't think it's impossible.
Okay.
Here's the ultimate question Medley Childress Do you think Hitler died at the end of the war?
No, no.
No, I remember very distinctly when.
They did real tests on the skull that was still in the hands of the Russians after the fact.
They found out that the skull that they thought was Hitler's was female.
So then later they tried to do this thing where they were like, oh yeah, you know, some scientists did go in there and it turns out that it was Hitler's skull.
And, you know, they were trying to say that dental records did it.
You know, no, no, it makes more sense that they would try to get Hitler out just as a figurehead.
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And I think that Joseph Farrell's done good work showing that Martin Bormann actually took over the Nazi Party in the post Nazi period and that it ran predominantly from South America.
And that the one real connection that we can see with it, the Nazi loot and how it got divvied up, is the beginning of the Bilderberg groups.
It's that Nazi post war fascist influence.
And Jim Mars told me that a lot of the racial characteristics got stripped.
Out of it, and it was just operating as this kind of fascist international, and it was working with all these different groups.
So, there's a lot of mysteries there for sure.
I don't think that we have all the answers, but yeah, South America is the place that's where we need to, that's where people have done the majority of the really good work around this.
I think.
Okay, Nicholas Carupas.
I want to say this before we go any further.
Even if somebody didn't accept the fact that elements of the Nazi party survived and were in Argentina.
And develop things under the protection of Juan Perón.
The idea that Nazis survived, we know as a fact because Nazi hunters have tracked them down, etc.
And the idea that they would maintain the Nazi philosophy after the war happened and then try to do something to influence after holding this worldview for so many years, you think they're just going to give it up?
Seems to me they would try to continue this tradition and this legacy.
So, this idea of post war fascist international doesn't seem far flowing to me.
Okay.
Okay.
Nicholas Kurudbas.
Olivia, please ask DJ if any connection of Horton Brothers and Kurt Tank of Volka, Wolf, and X?
Oh, fascinating.
I'd like you to email me on that one.
Send it to info at darkjournalist.com because there's stuff relating to that that I haven't put out publicly yet.
And I'm working on a show that develops the X technology around the Nazi part with the Horton Brothers, but it's not ready for prime time yet.
Okay.
Sam Raven, what do you think of the Black Knight mystery satellite supposedly first detected by Tesla by radio emission?
I think there's a few times where Hitler, you know, I'm sorry, where Tesla, Hitler, well, it's Hitler, it's Tesla, it's a little bit of each.
Tesla comes up with these fascinating stories about receiving messages from radio messages from other planets.
I think that the whole thing about the satellite, the Black Knight satellite, many people have seen it.
And it's been reported.
What that is, especially since we didn't have satellites in 1898, or really when the Black Knight satellite goes on the record is in the 40s, we still don't have satellites.
Because we know the first thing that we have on the record officially is Sputnik.
That's 1958.
So, you know, it is an interesting period.
What goes on there in the skies during that time?
Just like the mystery airships, just like this story of the Navy float plane and the UFO that I mentioned last week.
And that's about a plane smashing into a UFO.
I want to read the text so it really sinks in, especially in this episode.
So, just give me a moment here.
The World War II encounter story involves a United States maritime cargo vessel, Navy cruiser, and a Navy float plane that hit an invisible UFO.
This is a story by Cheryl Costa, and I think it's significant.
I think we're going to have to go deeper with it because what happens is the description by the man who was actually on the board as a young man, as a veteran, who was on the boat, he said all the observers were stunned as the aircraft appeared to fly into an invisible object.
The plane simply stood, stopped flying for an instant, and fell vertically into the ocean as a ball of tangled metal.
So, straight in.
You know, invisibility, I attribute to this apotheum thing that that's the ability to do that.
We know in the Philadelphia experiment, we've talked about that.
People have done extensive research on something called Project Invisibility, which is where the Philadelphia experiment came out of.
Sumerian Secrets in Weather Warfare00:13:56
So, it is right in the realm of possibilities.
And here's a witness testimony from it from over 70 years ago.
So it's absolutely, you know, when we see Trump talking about invisible planes, it's not because he's lost his senses.
It's because he's referring to a technology that exists, interestingly enough.
Okay.
Okay.
So I love this question.
David Donaway, was the Nazi project more Aramonic or more satanic?
Well, it's interesting because I would say Aramonic and satanic are twain.
Right, that's the same thing that we're talking about there.
Um, so if you're saying if you're referring to that split there, which the Steiner group talks about, which is the Luciferian aspect versus the Armonic aspect, and how Armon is kind of you know the Goethe's devil, Mephistopheles, that's really the kind of traditional devil from the Bible.
Um, so if you want to put it that way, um, it seems to me that.
The Nazi Party and the group that took it up originally, there were so many malleable aspects to it, and there was a big occult function in it.
So that they were very in tune with trying to control forces of nature that weren't traditionally talked about, say, in the Western papers of the day or in Western physics and things like that.
They talked about psychic powers, they talked about the power of sacred objects, they talked about, you know, Sacred places, looking for Atlantis, all this kind of stuff.
And they were borrowing heavy from that theosophical tradition for the mystical side, but they were getting it twisted with the idea that we're mystical, we're superior.
So, you know, there's a lot of different factors to consider.
What I think is most telling about the Nazis is their incredible kind of competitive, you know, this really.
The way that they treated the Anthroposophical Society and burning down the Gertianum that Steiner had created, that they didn't want competition on that side.
And they could see that Steiner's work was seeing right through something like a national socialist type of thing, this incredible imperialism that was entering into Germany.
And they didn't want this kind of real representatives of the mystery schools as competition.
And so they made life incredibly difficult for anthroposophy at the time.
And burning the Gertianum is, I think, really telling.
It kind of answers your question the most, I think.
But it is, it's a great question.
Okay.
Brandon Jimenez again.
DJ, Bassan stated that secret tunnels under the pyramids of Giza.
Did the X originate from Egypt?
It looks like the X came over from Atlantis, and that the way that Casey talks about Atlantis is that the three major places that maintained the information in the Hall of Records were Egypt under the Sphinx, Bimini, like where the Bimini Road is under the water, and in Yucatan.
So the.
The kind of tie over record of the X, which is the two eye crystal in essence, that he identifies, T U A O I, that's the X technology in the Atlantean period.
And so that's the records of it came over from Atlantis originally.
And whatever they did, Steiner talks about it, the Mystery Schools reference it in Steiner's work, in Casey's work, in.
Besant's work and in Blavatsky's work, what happens is they talk about something where the Atlanteans became like gods and the destruction, the cataclysm, the deluge was so intense, whatever it was that they did.
And they did it through the two eye crystal, which is whatever it was, the effect that was being created, that it almost like altered the sun and the earth and the entire solar system.
So Whatever they had done, they could never get into a position again to be able to do that to wreak such havoc.
So the mystery schools had made a decision after the destructions of Atlantis to keep this information secret.
And the X steganography, if you look, we showed examples from the Book of the Dead, show that pretty well.
I mean, they have these different figures that are holding the X.
And then I'm not saying that we understand all the language that's involved in how those symbols are used, but there's no question that the advanced technology was hidden after that point and it didn't resurface.
Until centuries later, and here we are.
Okay.
Bibi, if you have any known instances of ex steganography in Baghdad, I'm reminded of the conversation with Farrell about the shadowy group of soldiers that raided the museum basement there post invasion.
Absolutely.
And yeah, Farrell's done incredible work too about how some of these Sumerian stories that talk about this incredible battle over the Tower of Babel.
You know, this is really kind of fascinating because the technology that was hidden there is just like the Sodom and Gomorrah story.
Because the Sodom and Gomorrah story has all these apothegm elements, right?
Things blink out and nobody can go near it.
And it sounds like a nuke explosion, but it sounds actually a lot deeper than that if you think about it.
And there is that whole thing about nothing grows there, you know, and all the rest.
So I understand people making that comparison.
The Sumerian story is unusual.
There are aspects in the Sumerian story where they say some of the technology, there's actually a catalog for the technology that they had that they needed to get rid of.
It's almost like a treaty of, like, hey, we've beat you in this war, now get rid of your weapons.
But there's some of them that are listed there.
And this is something that Dr. Farrell pointed out to me, which I found absolutely incredible, which is that some of the weapons that they were ordered to destroy by the gods, say, you know, destroy these weapons that you have, humans, some of those weapons were listed as non indestructible.
So they just had to be buried somewhere.
That strikes me as the crystals.
Because the nature of the crystals, the way the fire stones are described by Casey, really they could utilize the entire power of the sun.
So the Atlanteans did all kinds of things with them.
In his story, it's a completely advanced civilization.
And I want to say that people do not understand when we have these stories that come out about Casey or we have people running around saying, I'm Edgar Cayce or whatever.
It's a real shame because here we have.
Incredibly intelligent, insightful work around Atlantis, giving us the most cutting edge advanced civilization, glimpse of a civilization, and relating how they were using it on one side as spiritual technology to interface with these higher realms, and how this other group, you know, that's the Aemilius group, and how this other group, the Belial group, were using it the way that the kind of corporate raiders are using it now to try to herd and harvest humanity through brute force.
That's what got them into trouble in the first place.
So that battle, the Belial versus the Aemilius, Team seems to go on even now.
Okay.
Okay, I want to make sure we have time for Najad's question.
It's great.
Based off Dr. Judy Wood's evidence of secret technology bringing down the towers on 9 11, could invisible planes be used, been used to bring down the towers?
Well, I think Judy Wood's work is incredible and it's widely, you know, there's been a lot of controversy around it.
And I think that people had certain set ideas.
On the alternative side about 9 11 and how everything happened, because it's an extraordinary series of events and it's not explained.
There's a classic version of the official story and the counter story, which people call the conspiracy theory, right?
And then we see the wild, crazy stories about 9 11.
Judy Wood's story is actually the most plausible, which is that some kind of energy weapon was used to destroy the towers.
And there's a lot of evidence for what she's put forward.
And I know that people had talked about holograms and things like that.
And the truth is that, you know, it's very difficult because there are real planes involved.
I don't think there's any getting around that.
And I think that the idea that they were remote controlled planes is quite possible.
That there's invisible tech in something like 9 11, I think, is quite possible.
Obviously, the energy weapons.
Are invisible, but their signature isn't.
So I guess half a yes would be the good answer there, but it's a great question.
And I think New York still reverberates with that event.
I don't think there's any question about it.
Chris Davies, do you think directed energy weapons are responsible for some of the forest fires?
Yeah.
Well, you know, I mean, some of them.
Yeah, it's true.
It's tough.
You know, this is a tricky thing because I think weather warfare is used.
Remember, it's something that.
That we've talked about.
And we actually said that William Cohen is the person who said it.
And he was the defense secretary under Clinton, even though he was a Republican.
And during congressional testimony, he let out this little bit about, well, we're trying to make sure that the terrorists don't get their hands on these weather warfare weapons that we have.
And then everyone was like, what weather warfare weapons?
And so, you know, we've talked extensively with people who've worked on HARP.
Of course, Eleanor Freeland's work on this certainly points to the idea that they're controlling the weather.
On some aspects.
But I will say this that whenever something major like that comes along with the fires in California, there's always the possibility that some of it is occurring naturally, and we should be open to that.
And I think we should always look for the signature of something unusual taking place there that might be motivated by something political, for sure.
Okay.
Okay.
But wow, yeah, for people who are going through that unbelievable and I hope that everyone's able to get through it, just like with the Hawaii volcanoes.
You know, this is something that was in the Casey readings.
He warned us that this was the era of these earth changes.
So some of it will be the earth.
It won't always be Mr. Global firing his energy weapon.
It is the earth changing.
And what we need to do there is have good community networks to get through it.
Titan blooded, why is this spiritual development always connected with technology development?
Yeah, well, this is the thing.
Ideally, I think the mystery schools want to connect the two.
I think the problem is that we've gotten away from it.
And this is what Oppenheimer said, and people like Saar Barker, who got written out of the history books, who I'm always going to mention on this show because Saar Barker is right up there with his kind of openness about what we were doing.
But the idea is, you know, really.
As far as humanity is concerned, the advancement can't be monitored from a strictly non spiritual level.
This is what the mystery schools decided in 1840, and it's a massive moment when they say we have to let all of this material out.
We have to stream things into humanity in the West that just were kept underground before, like reincarnation, like the hidden history of Atlantis, like psychic abilities, like spirit communication.
They have to try to let this stuff out and Hope that the public doesn't get abused by small groups taking it and using it against them, which we see so much in society today.
So they're taking the big chance.
And the reason is because we can't just move forward with technological process without the character building, ethics building, spiritual development that goes along with it.
And when we do, we get the kind of upside down civilization like we have now.
And so, you know, we're at a critical point where we need to develop.
Our spiritual senses, as well as our physical abilities.
And the fact that it's so lopsided right now means if that pendulum doesn't swing into some kind of a balance, that the society at large and the globe could be headed for another Atlantis style disaster.
And that's something I think that we really have to look to avoid.
So, yeah, great questions tonight.
Unbelievable.
It's great to have everyone here.
Alchemy Across Different Realities00:14:40
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So, we'll take a couple more questions and then we'll wrap up our evening.
But, uh, super having everyone.
Okay, so these three questions are kind of related.
Yes, Donna Collins, uh, DJ, how will we avoid the use of ex steganography by disinformation specialists?
Two, Bob Walls, hey DJ, is QAnon a classic misdirect while ex tech rolls out?
And, Big Papa Pump, is the deep state trying to slow roll Space Force and will they succeed?
Wow, Big Papa's got it there.
That's the one.
These are great questions all strung together.
Here's the thing I'm going to answer this thing.
I've done extensive, you know, I've looked at the Q stuff.
I did episodes with Dr. Joseph Farrell about Q. Q is an intelligence gathering operation.
And that's what I've deduced from looking at it.
In this period of time, it's actually very dangerous to take anonymous advice and, you know, have an anonymous thing lead a movement.
You might find yourself working for John Podesta if you're not careful.
So, we have to be careful about how that kind of thing could be manipulated.
Anyone who's involved around that stuff, they themselves will say, well, yes, that was hacked and somebody impersonated this person on a board.
But the idea that some random poster on a board is going to run everyone all over the world, trying, you know, and it's like some secret team and I'm here with Trump and I'm taking his picture and all that.
No, you know, I mean, it's not.
It doesn't add up.
And, you know, the Secret Service would maul you and put you on the ground if you were taking pictures inside Air Force One.
So, whoever's behind that stuff, it seems like a massive data harvesting operation to me.
That's the way that I would look at it.
Well, we discussed earlier this week that the deep state kind of took their hand a little bit about where this could be leading.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, it's true.
This is the other thing about it.
When they were doing the whole thing about, like, oh, you know, Trump's.
Kind of animosity, animus towards the press might cause an event.
And the idea that they might shut down, you know, they use it as a hammer to shut down the alternative media if they're like, oh, you know, like, let's suppose some anonymous thing, say it's not cute.
And by the way, I don't have any quarrel with people who follow that stuff.
I'm just, I'm, you know, I've been watching trends, I've been sorting through junk conspiracy for a long time.
And I can tell you that that's an easy world to manipulate.
That's just, you know, it's unbelievable that anyone would take.
Here's a few lines and run around and go crazy chasing the rabbit and say, like, you know.
So, my feeling is not that the people who are involved with following it, you know, there's nothing wrong with them.
I think the problem is that the filter around the junk conspiracy isn't working in that case.
So, the idea that this kind of a group could incite people to go to an event and do something, you know, like one time Q talked about like rolling out the guillotine or something like this.
So, you know, that.
That's a call to action and all that kind of stuff.
Now, when we look at that, if anything were to happen, you know, and all those people, let's say some people did something in relation to that, who would be accountable?
Some weird person behind a board who whipped these people into a frenzy and forced them out there with no accountability.
It's important to have a face, it's important to have a name, it's important to have an environment that you can relate to and verify and be transparent about because the whole problem with the deep state and the secrecy that we've discussed here on this program is the lack of transparency.
And the invisibility brings the whole show around.
So, I would say that things like that are dangerous because they lead to more lack of transparency and non accountability, which is the opposite that somebody would need.
And it's not that people who study that stuff don't say interesting things, it's just that it's not reliable.
But the other side of that was kind of interesting, I think, which is he was kind of getting at the idea that the space force.
Idea is a way that Trump can prevent the deep state from rolling him.
I think that's quite interesting.
My feeling has been there are two ops going around space.
One of them had to do with the Hillary Clinton people with Podesta thinking they were getting in and getting the TTSA type thing where they're going to roll out this aerial UFO threat, which the media is still doing, by the way.
They just did an article in the New York Times using this kind of like, hey, you know, maybe there was a UFO threat there back in the 50s.
And, like, maybe that is what we're dealing with.
It is a threat.
So, that's where they want to push things.
That's where they're going.
And the thing is, you know, when I've pointed out that people like Luis Elizondo is a counterintelligence outfit, you know, he's somebody who's really been in that role, and that his boss was John Brennan, who was the drone king, who was the CIA director under Obama.
How can anyone in this field who studied this stuff and knows how much the government has done to cover up the UFO file?
How could anyone tolerate that as somebody who you think you're going to get legitimate information from?
And I don't mind pointing out people like George Knapp kissing up to Luis Elizondo and other UFO researchers.
It's absurd.
You spend years and years talking about how the government blocked this stuff, and then a CIA counterintelligence guy is going to give you the truth about UFOs.
It doesn't add up.
So it's quite remarkable, I think, that the situation that we get into.
But remember, the other side is that Trump wants his piece of that UFO file as well.
So therefore, It's really important to him to announce something like the Space Force without getting any approval from Congress or the Senate or anything because he knows that this is the space, you know, it's the time of the space economy and he wants to be right in the heart of it.
But I think that the suggestion really is that the militarization of space, they seem to be bringing that on and that's something that I think needs to be resisted.
Okay.
Okay.
Ether Steele, is it possible that the glitches in the Matrix are becoming more apparent to us now that we're becoming increasingly more aware of its presence and existence?
I think it's interesting.
I think there's no doubt about it.
It's quite an interesting period.
Every kind of awakening, I think, is fascinating.
And I think it's personal, really, and then it becomes global.
So I always look for the personal first, and I hope the society at large can handle the larger awakening that.
Should take place, but here we are.
It's a great time to kind of fulfill the thing that the mystery schools were trying to make happen there in 1840 by giving us a buffer against that scientific materialism.
And when they were looking out at that field and thinking to themselves, you know, as Rudolf Steiner just described it, that humanity won't be recognizable in 100 years, we can't afford to hold back and sit on this information.
We need to let the information out so people can.
Reach a higher kind of spiritual, have a shot at it without being completely covered over in this material junk.
And scientific materialism, which would just say whatever you can measure is what exists, and completely denying the spiritual realities behind those measurements and behind the things that can be measured.
So I think what the kind of challenge that those groups have given us into the 21st century is to really, you know.
Raise our own consciousness so that these things become clear.
And something like the X steganography can help us do that because very often people will say, Well, I don't know what to believe.
There's so many things out there.
So if we find a pattern around the same way that we were able to unlock the hieroglyphs of Egypt and read the language, if we find a pattern around the secrecy and it's locked in the steganography of the X, and we see some pushback with groups like MSNBC talking negatively about.
Steganography.
It's a good signal that you're getting close.
You're getting close.
We're getting close in with this research.
Remember, that's the kind of thing that we do here.
And mostly we can do that because we don't spend time on the junk conspiracy, you know, on the flat earth, on the junk.
So it's an important thing.
And, you know, I think it's a great time for us to lift ourselves up.
Okay, we'll take two more questions and we're out.
Okay.
Channeling the heart, Barbara Joyce.
How does alchemy differ from apotheum?
Oh, that's really interesting.
Well, alchemy is this incredible process.
It's a combination of factors and it's magic in essence.
Apotheum, the way I understand it, apotheum can be a very upside down process and it's very difficult.
It's overstimulating for one human being.
So it's a senses disorientation, reality disorientation effect that takes place when we encounter it.
So, you know how people have talked about raising their Kundalini and they get into these states, which they're completely, it's like their astral body and their physical body are completely separated.
And they go into these states.
And Gurdjieff talked about how at times there were certain mystery schools that would put people into these states using drugs back then.
So he's talking about early 20th century, late 19th century.
And then the person would reach this kind of enlightened state for a certain time.
And then go mad, basically.
So there is some consideration there.
It reminds me of that scene in 2001 Space Odyssey when they're showing him all this stuff at the end.
It's sort of like you're looking at him and thinking he's only a human being, can only take in so much information.
So, Apotheum, I think, runs the risk by changing the rules of the physical dynamics, the physical laws, physics, the reality that we come to expect.
That when that thing rolls in, you know, the Atlanteans created the Apotheum effect, the UFO file, you know, when we deal with the UFO phenomena, it seems to create that.
Very same effect.
And it's a very difficult thing to manage.
So I would say alchemy would be different.
Okay.
Great question, though.
Epic Journeyman.
Is this something akin to a version of quantum entanglement demonstrated in the macrocosm that secret is revealed by the X-Teganography as a clue that the crossing of planes is existence X?
Well, this is really interesting, too, because you get into people who talk about life after death and, you know, kind of.
Engaging with people who've gone beyond.
And this is why Emma Britton's story was so important to me when she was talking about being a somnambulist who worked in the Orphic Circle and how she would go into these mediumistic trances.
You know, there's so many different realities that we're capable of interfacing with.
And that once we understand our larger abilities, we'll be able to do that.
Right now, it just feels like only a few of us can.
But I think that you're on the right track thinking that, you know, when we start to think about planes, it gives us some kind of a hint that there's more realities going on beyond the kind of thin veneer of everyday reality, that we see there's something much deeper behind it.
And this is what people like Uspensky and Gurdjieff and Casey were trying to get to.
I will say this, which is fascinating, and Olivia pointed this out to me the other day, which is we were talking, we did an episode, and It was with Dr. Joseph Farrell, I think it was back in March, but we were talking about the idea that these astronauts who went to the moon saw their relatives there who had passed away.
That there were these stories.
Do you remember this?
Sorry.
It's okay.
You do remember it, yes.
But this is something that Farrell said.
I'm going to bring it back to your memory now where these astronauts went to the moon.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
There's a very interesting thing there where, you know, is space, you know, they're creating this thing about space because different realities become possible once we break those chains.
It could very well be.
It could very well be.
Hiding X in Plain Sight00:04:04
So it's fascinating.
Wow.
Incredible questions.
I'll take one more question.
Okay.
All right.
Well, this brings it all together.
Okay.
Bob Walls, was the X Files a misdirect?
Put X Deconography out into the public consciousness, hiding in plain sight, so to speak.
And we were just talking the other day about.
The episode titles of the last two seasons of The X Files being My Struggle, which is Mein Kampf in German, right?
Oh, yeah, how odd that was.
The X Files really, I think what they did was a magical thing there because they took this thing that had happened in the late 40s and early 50s with Frank Scully and how the FBI kind of basically persecuted him because he'd.
Spoken to these witnesses and got the story around about this crashed UFO.
I think, if anything, you know, it did a great deal for the culture at the time.
Was part of that 90s wave where it looked like some kind of disclosure around this other reality was going to take place in public, which is quite remarkable.
So, if anything, I think it's done a good job of raising our consciousness around those things.
And let's face it, Chris Carter is a very unusual person to be able to encapsulate all these different things.
But I do think it's funny that the pop culture has to reflect the fact that this X is coming forward and the X Files was part of that.
I'll tell you, I see more of it all the time now because.
You know, we've mentioned here there have been attacks on steganography in the popular media.
But we've also seen that this term that somebody used in a question there, hiding in plain sight, this is steganography, and I've pointed it out over and over again.
But now we see people using this term a lot more, hiding in plain sight, but not referring, you know, just kind of floating it out there.
It's almost like this term, hiding in plain sight, is becoming much more commonplace now.
And I feel that that's in response to this steganography again.
Because I feel like the more we get close to the idea of steganography around the X, there's a buildup where they want to kind of shove that aside or turn it into something else.
So people will start saying, like, you know, instead of attributing seeing something in plain sight to this X steganography, they'll start to say, well, it's part of some puzzle from some poster on an internet board or something.
So, you know, we have to be careful.
Right now, the way that you have the X steganography information, I've given it to you directly as I've researched it.
You and I have done the programs.
There's not even a software that's in between us.
You know, I'm pointing to you pictures like we're having the conversation directly right here.
It's about as visceral as you can get.
So you have it in you now.
So, therefore, even if the videos were taken down or whatever, the information that you carry about the ex steganography is already significant.
I feel like that's a problem for someone out there because the ex steganography in general, if it gets to that point where enough people start talking about it and we can see that.
You know, over a million people have had that conversation.
Then I think it really runs the risk of becoming something that people will start to be able to decipher at a large scale, not just using the resources of a dark journalist.
So that is a very interesting.
I mean, there's a lot of exciting possibilities there, but I certainly can see how certain groups would be trying to ensure that that day doesn't come.
So I think it's kind of a mixed thing.
I appear, you know, to be.
Viewing these efforts at discrediting the steganography and the hidden in plain sight X stuff, but you know, at a very early stage, some 22 weeks into, I think it's about 22 weeks ago.
So, yeah, there we are.
Listening Next Week00:05:52
Fantastic questions, unbelievable tonight.
Great episode.
And don't worry, we're going to have more on Ford and the X engines because that research is going to form a major foundation of the work we're doing here.
It's great to have everyone here.
I want to do a shout out to.
Occult fan is out there.
Charlotte Cowell, Ether Theory, Frank Fiedler, Sam Raven, David Donaway, just excellent people.
And the Jot was out there earlier.
I saw Rika, the hopeful volunteerist, who always provides great questions.
And Occult Priestess is out there.
And Bo Krells, yeah, excellent questions.
Amazing stuff.
Next week, we'll have a very exciting pre recorded.
I'm going to throw one crazy question in.
Okay.
So, Ice Angel says, Olivia, please ask DJ if he thinks the Predator type stalkers that have been reported for many years, said it by hunters, was a precursor to the invisibility tech discussed tonight alien or human, and of course the Predator movies.
Hey, listen, if you watch the Predator movie, it has Jesse Ventura and Arnold, right?
Unbelievable.
So, that alone is going to guarantee an entertaining evening.
Well, we don't know.
Actually, Predator 2 was supposed to take place in Los Angeles.
We never watched it because it was too weird.
But it is interesting because there you have that invisible character moving around.
And we've seen some unusual things in relation to invisibility.
There was that very strange, and it couldn't be verified, but it looked like this invisible soldier in the Iraq War getting into a tank.
I think those things need to be looked at in light of the fact that we're talking now about invisibility.
Invisibility is something that I think we could become aware of and we could kind of force.
Awareness about from the establishment, which has been hiding it for so long.
If they have that technology and they need to roll it out, then that's something that we're going to need to know because if they have it, and I'll tell you, everything points to the fact that they have mastered that technology, including Trump's own comments.
If they have it and they have the ability to use the invisibility, we need to know about it because that changes the equation dramatically between the leadership and the public.
So we need to kind of get rid of that cycle of disrespect.
Before I go, I'm going to show you the piece of artwork that grabbed everyone in the Rockefeller episode.
It's Man at the Crossroads, originally called Man Controller of the Universe.
I wanted to bring it back for its finale.
There it is again.
So many of you have written to me about it.
We've had great discussions about it.
But there is Man at the Crossroads by Diego Rivera, that the Rockefellers originally commissioned and then scrapped in 1933, the year Hitler came to power.
And there's that X behind the man at the crossroads.
Just fascinating.
We will see you with a new X show on August 17th on Breakthrough Energy.
And it's going to be a really important episode.
This, I think, is one of the most key ones.
And Susan Manowich, the work that she's been up to, just watch out.
Incredible stuff.
Olivia, what can I say?
Thank you.
I want to apologize to a cult fan.
I accidentally deleted your questions.
Listen.
So it happens.
I'm so sorry.
I will make it up to you next time.
I see Lion of Judea out there.
And I see Ice Angel.
Thank you so much.
Your questions were great.
You're the best.
We will see you next week.
And that just means that Olivia, it's Saturday night with Olivia.
That means dinner is going to prove to be very good.
I'm not going to say the P word because Bo Krills has money on it.
She was going frozen yogurt earlier.
I could already tell you.
So I'll tell you it's going to be tequila and ice cream.
Oh, tequila and ice cream.
That would be a killer flavor right there.
I don't think they've ever done that, have they?
Well, there's like daiquiri ice, which is delicious.
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
I know there used to be one with Cointreau in it, but in any case, now we're talking about all kinds of fantasies taking place.
We will see you next week.
Actually, the week after.
No, no, no.
We're going to see you next week with a recorded show.
So I want everyone to watch that next Friday.
We're going to have it up.
Which episode are you putting up?
It's a surprise.
But we're going to have a great guest.
And also, the ex witness is going on the record.
So, their testimony about the ex, and they were deep, deep, deep in the Air Force.
So, they've really, they're coming on board.
Okay.
And so we will see you next week.
Yes, Olivia?
Well, I was just going to say, my soul on fire suggested make it frozen mudslide, which sounds fantastic.
Listen, you can't mix up the ex guest with frozen mudslide.
You've got to get something in the rhythm going on there.
But there's no one but you could pull that off, let's face it.
This is a great t shirt tonight, by the way.
Yes, it's my Star Trek t shirt.
It's fantastic.
We will see you.
Well,.
You're just getting started.
We will see you next week.
Thank you so much, everyone.
And it was great to be with you next week.
Very important.
And then August 17th, we're back with a live show.
Fridays at 7 p.m. is generally when you can catch the X series.
We're doing the third round, which is 10 episodes on the X steganography.
We're going deeper than ever, and we're going there with you.