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	In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
	It's the David Knight Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday, the 10th of December, year of our Lord, 2025.
	There are so many different issues that is a polycrisis that is happening everywhere.
	We see the rise of new financial systems and competition.
	We see the rise of new wars, pharmaceutical issues.
	We're going to talk about all that today.
	But the key issue here, folks, that we can see that is happening now is what is happening with the consolidation of power and the concentration of it through artificial intelligence.
	And we see both the administration's order on this as well as what is being done in the state of Alaska.
	This is not just something that is Trump doing this.
	This aligns with the global agenda that is happening everywhere in every country all at once.
	This is the global governance.
	They don't have to erect a capital somewhere.
	It'll be distributed with artificial intelligence in each country.
	We're going to talk about that.
	Stay with us.
	be right back well we have um it is kind of interesting I played the clip for you the other day, and I'll play it again here.
	Pete Hegseth in 2016, repeatedly warning of Trump issuing unlawful military orders.
	And as a matter of fact, I don't know if we got that or not.
	But I don't think I do have that in the deck today.
	I think we had to move that out.
	Anyway, you heard the clip.
	And what was the context for that?
	Well, the context for it was a question that was asked in the presidential debates in March of 2016 as Trump was consolidating his lead.
	He was asked in a debate by Britt Hume about unlawful orders.
	And Trump's response to that was Brett Baer said, so what would you do as commander-in-chief if the U.S. military refused to carry out those orders?
	And he said, they won't refuse me.
	They're not going to refuse me, believe me.
	And so he was pressed about warnings from former military leaders that U.S. forces are legally obligated to reject unlawful orders in 2016.
	And at that time, Pete Hegseth, who was working at Fox News, went on with Fox and Friends and said that all the people in the military knew that they had to follow, not follow, but to refuse illegal orders.
	So I guess instead of the seditious six, we could now say there's the seditious seven and include Pete Hegseth in that.
	Because he was saying at the time that they have a higher authority that they have to obey.
	Trump later walked that back.
	But Hegseth said at the time, what happens when people follow those orders or don't follow them?
	It's not clear that Trump will have their back.
	Donald Trump is oftentimes about Donald Trump, and so you can't, if you're not changing the law, and if you're just saying it, you create even more ambiguity.
	In other words, his subordinates are going to be left to twist in the wind.
	Trump later walked back his comments, saying in a statement the day after the debate, I will not order a military officer to disobey the law.
	And so here's yet another broken promise that we have seen.
	So that was the context of the clip that we played the other day.
	But you've got people like Representative Don Bacon saying about Hegseth, I don't, I think I've seen enough to make a judgment about where this guy is coming from.
	And of course, he has criticized Trump as well, which is why he's not running again for Congress.
	However, what is really interesting is that Laura Loomer has pushed back against the lies in the Pentagon.
	Remember, she is now part of the Pentagon press, along with people like Jack Pasovik.
	And it is now something of a joke.
	But she said, fentanyl isn't being manufactured in Venezuela.
	Hmm.
	How about that?
	Why would you say that?
	Well, of course, it isn't.
	Everybody has said that it isn't.
	And you even had the Navy SEAL, former Navy SEAL admiral who ordered the second strike said it was all about cocaine.
	Nobody mentioned any fentanyl with this.
	They can't keep their lies straight.
	So the Pentagon's new press corps, which includes her, Matt Gates, Jack Pesobiet, and others, is really kind of a joke.
	It really is a clown circus.
	Remember, Pesobik was a guy who was pushing that fentanyl was coming from Canada.
	It's coming from Mexico.
	But he was pushing that it was coming from Canada.
	And even went up to the border of a small town and said, look at this.
	You know, there's no guards.
	There's no, you know, there's no fence or anything.
	People just walk across this area.
	We can't have freedom like that.
	You know, we're the guard towers.
	We're the police dogs.
	We're the men with automatic weapons.
	What a joke he is and a sycophant.
	As this article points out, Loomer, Pesobik, and so many others make their living entirely off of keeping a pro-Trump audience.
	That's what this is about, folks.
	Keep your pro-Trump audience happy.
	Keep them in the dark.
	Give them a reason to believe that they didn't make a mistake, that they weren't deceived.
	They are financially incentivized to toe the line, to attack the left, and to never spark the ire of Trump or their viewers.
	And that's why they tiptoe around like this.
	That's why I occasionally see Alex Jones step over the line and then quickly step back.
	No, no, I'm still on Trump's side here.
	Well, Galen Carpenter, then Galen Carpenter, rather, at anywh.com, points out that NATO is a menace, not a benefit to America.
	And this is coming as there's increasing tension between Trump and Europe in terms of pushing for peace in Ukraine.
	Zelensky and the EU don't want to have peace of any sort.
	And as he said, NATO is a menace, not a benefit to America.
	I would say this is true of all foreign alliances, including Israel.
	George Washington said that was true of all foreign alliances, and he was right.
	He said, since World War II, we have embraced two key assumptions and continue to do so.
	One, that NATO is essential to the peace and security of the entire transatlantic region and will remain so for the indefinite future.
	The other sacred assumption is that the alliance is highly beneficial to America's own core security and economic interests.
	The toxic militaristic views towards Russia that too many European leaders are adopting have made NATO into a snare that could entangle the United States in a large-scale war with ominous nuclear implications.
	Yeah, they should listen to Washington.
	Anyway, we see this as well with Israel.
	You have the IDF chief there says, the yellow line in Gaza is now the new border.
	This is the IDF chief of staff, Lieutenant General, told that to the troops.
	The so-called yellow line is the vague boundary that separates the Israeli-occupied side of Gaza from the rest of the strip.
	It is the quote-unquote new border, as he said, suggesting that Israel is planning a permanent occupation.
	Was there ever any question about that?
	I mean, you get censored for saying that.
	You'd be called racist if you said that.
	It isn't anything at all about race.
	If it is about race, it's on the Israeli government's side.
	Israeli troops currently occupy more than 50% of Gaza.
	The IDF has continued to launch attacks across Gaza, killing more than 370 Palestinians since the truce was supposed to go into effect.
	The IDF regularly claims to kill Palestinians who cross the yellow line, but it is not clearly marked on the ground, and Gaza residents have reported people being killed well beyond the boundary before they reach it.
	This is the kind of actions that get us drawn into these unjust wars, but we don't need any help.
	I mean, we can do our own Venezuelas, can't we?
	And our Vietnamese.
	But it's just another issue.
	So in terms of national security, Trump is now threatening and saying that the Supreme Court is a big threat to the U.S. if they overturn the tariffs.
	They better watch their back.
	They could get a drone strike or something, right?
	No, his tariffs have been a total failure.
	And people are looking at the metrics now.
	We can see that it hasn't brought manufacturing back.
	It hasn't made manufacturing stronger.
	Manufacturing has declined.
	Why?
	Because of the chaos that he's brought.
	I don't care what his tax policies are.
	If they're constantly shifting, you can't run a business.
	You can't run a farm if you don't know what the products are.
	That's why they had the Chicago Board of Trade.
	And that's why he has basically reversed all of that and cast it to the wind.
	So whether you're manufacturing, whether you're a retailer who is importing goods, or whether you're a farmer who's trying to grow crops, Trump's chaos has destroyed everything.
	And of course, the stated goal to beat our Chinese competition.
	Here's a news flash.
	We don't compete as nations.
	We compete as corporations.
	And if you want your nation to succeed, you have to get your reins off of the corporations and the businesses and let them be able to compete.
	They have tied everybody down with regulations to the extent that you can't do manufacturing in the United States or pretty much anything else as well.
	The biggest enemy of production and innovation in the U.S. is the federal government itself.
	It's not foreign governments, not foreign corporations.
	As I pointed out yesterday, if you go back and look at the numbers that are now in, the Chinese have had their exports go up by 5% over a year ago.
	The U.S. has had their exports go down by 30% versus a year ago.
	And that's the reality of this.
	And the fact is that prices are going up because they have to be passed on or the businesses will go out of business.
	There's only so much that they can absorb and only for so long.
	So the tariffs are an absolute failure, unless raising taxes, killing small business, destroying manufacturing, unless those are the real goals that Trump had, which I wouldn't put it past him.
	Because when you look at the policies that he's doing, this guy is obviously the tool of the UN, the World Economic Forum, Musk, and all the rest of these techno-bros that are out there.
	Trump on Tuesday said that national security could be at risk if the Supreme Court rules against his tariffs under emergency law, arguing that it could pose the biggest threat to the U.S.
	So there you go.
	They better get some air defenses over the Supreme Court building.
	If he tells Pete to do it, Pete will do it.
	He doesn't care whether the orders are illegal or not.
	So, yeah, national security, the emergency threat, all these things, people haven't caught on to this huckster yet.
	Everything is, this is national security.
	It's an emergency.
	It's a threat.
	He says that about everything, when he is really the biggest threat that we have.
	So he said that the biggest threat in the history of the U.S., national security, would be a negative decision on tariffs by the U.S. Supreme Court.
	We would be financially defenseless.
	How did we survive?
	How do we get to this point?
	What were the things that America had that made America great?
	It was a lack of federal smothering of everything that we do.
	The federal government was very small.
	That's how America got great.
	It got great because of that.
	And everything that he has done under his benevolent dictatorship is not going to restore that greatness because he doesn't understand what made America great in the first place.
	So let me just say this.
	If the Supreme Court approves of Trump acting as this bogus dictator where he can declare an emergency and do whatever he wants, about anything.
	He didn't declare a threat when a threat doesn't exist.
	Everything is an emergency.
	Everything is a threat.
	Now he has the power to do whatever he wishes.
	If they allow that, the next Democrat president, and there will be a next Democrat president, will do whatever he wishes.
	You need to think about that, the people who are cheering this on because they like the particular policy that he's got.
	It's not about the policy.
	It's about the principle this year.
	So he goes on to say, talking about Emmanuel Macron, he said the Trump administration imposed duties on Chinese imports starting early this year.
	That has failed.
	He said, now Europe is going to use tariffs against China.
	We would not be allowed to do what others are already doing.
	Well, there you go.
	There's the argument.
	Well, what about France?
	You know, can't make the argument.
	Well, what about the Democrats?
	They did that.
	Well, you know, we could have a situation in the future where the French are doing something we can't do.
	Yeah, the French have always tried to centrally plan and control their economy.
	That was what Alexis de Tocqueville was amazed at, how poorly that worked in comparison to the freedom that we had in the United States.
	So yeah, just do like the French.
	What about the French?
	They want to follow Trump's failed strategy.
	Go ahead.
	During last week's oral arguments on the tariff case, some Supreme Court justices appear to cast out on Trump's authority to impose a broad range of tariffs under the 1977 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, IEPA, because this is a total fraud.
	Anybody who looks at this with a cursory glance understands this.
	You don't need to have detailed arguments about this.
	They're just trying to weigh the consequences of what they do in terms of opposing him.
	Justice Coney Barrett argued that it could be a mess for the courts to administer refunds to U.S. importers who had paid tariffs that were declared illegal.
	How does that have anything to do with the principle of whether or not this is allowed in the Constitution?
	You see what Trump is doing.
	He's making lies, telling people lies about it being an emergency, being a threat, being a national security threat.
	Then he acts as a dictator.
	Now that he has declared that it is a phony emergency, he will use that phony declaration to essentially enact martial law.
	And she's going to say that's okay because of practical issues.
	How do we refund the money that we've taken?
	Well, that's the other part of his strategy.
	He comes out with fraudulent lies, and then he moves very, very quickly to make the mess that he has created difficult to unwind.
	And they will fall for that, evidently.
	So the question is, it's unclear whether companies will be entitled to refunds of more than $100 billion in IIPA tariffs that paid so far if the administration loses the case.
	And that's why Costco filed that lawsuit.
	Think about it.
	The American government comes in and does things that are completely illegal, completely unconstitutional, based on a foundation of lies as even more apparent than the weapons of mass destruction lies that got us into the Iraq War.
	I mean, that was plausible.
	This is not even plausible.
	So they do that, and then the government's going to take the position that they can't get their money back, that it was collected illegally.
	So you have to sue them.
	This is like civil asset forfeiture, isn't it?
	Where the police come in, they don't even charge you with a crime.
	They steal your car, they steal your home, they steal your cash or whatever, and they keep it.
	And you've got to sue them in order to get it back.
	This is what happens when you're governed by bureaucrats making rules or presidents making rules and not doing it with Congress.
	I mean, Congress, they say, well, that's a law.
	We have to follow due process.
	But if it's a rule that is just imposed by a dictatorial bureaucracy or dictatorial president, you're out of luck.
	You'll have to sue us to undo that.
	So the president said last month there would be economic disaster, a national security disaster if we lost the case in the Supreme Court.
	No.
	It is his issues, and it's put out the big lie and then move real fast to put its tentacles throughout society so that it rips everything apart if you undo it.
	Meanwhile, Trump and Treasury Secretary, the Soros soyboy Besant, have said that there are many other ways to impose the government's tariffs if the Supreme Court case fails.
	Although the president has stressed that the current tariff regime is more direct and less cumbersome than other methods, he will still find a way to get around the law to lie about it.
	That's what he's saying.
	He says, I have ended eight wars in 10 months.
	Total lie.
	Total lie.
	Because of the rights clearly given to the president of the United States.
	The president doesn't have rights.
	He has powers.
	States don't have rights.
	They have powers.
	And he doesn't have these powers under the Constitution.
	Another good example of this is how he is working very hard to completely destroy the 10th Amendment on one of the most foundational changes that we've had in America ever.
	And that is putting AI and its ability to monitor and to manipulate the population in a police surveillance state.
	He is prohibiting any regulation of that at the state and local level.
	Now, that is in direct defiance of the 10th Amendment.
	He is not the president.
	He's not the commander-in-chief.
	Is the usurper in chief?
	Trump has also used tariffs as part of separate negotiations with other countries, including illegal immigration and drug trafficking.
	There you go.
	Hey, it works.
	Look, we don't have fentanyl coming in from Canada anymore.
	It wasn't coming in in the first place.
	But he's going to point out, I did that great.
	You know, fentanyl is bad, but things go better with Coke.
	Just ask Alex Karp.
	We have a clip of him.
	And actually, his own company, Palantir, kind of snarkily, as everybody was saying, he looks like he is strung out on cocaine.
	They kind of made a snarky joke about it, kind of more or less admitting it.
	I wouldn't be surprised.
	China's manufacturing is booming despite Trump's tariffs, says the Wall Street Journal.
	And that was what we pointed out yesterday.
	They have had an all-time record high exports of over a trillion dollars.
	Meanwhile, what do we do?
	We spend, you know, they make a trillion dollars in profits.
	We spend a trillion dollars with the military, with the NDAA, which is coming up.
	They always do that.
	That is the Christmas gift to themselves.
	They always pass the NDAA funding the defense businesses.
	It's such a given that you have them rushing to put all kinds of bills in that they think they might have a problem passing.
	Otherwise, they tack them on to the NDAA.
	U.S. pressure has only cemented China's status as the world's indispensable factory floor, sending its trade surplus above a trillion dollars.
	Trump took the White House almost a year ago, promising a manufacturing boom, and he got one.
	In China, all of these policies have backfired.
	Why would anybody think that it's a good idea to have the economy centrally managed by a guy, especially by a guy who bankrupted six casinos where you basically have a license to print money?
	Western car makers, as we look at the deindustrialization of the West, of course, that is a key part of it.
	They're in a fight for their lives against their Chinese rivals, says the boss of Ford.
	This is a joint appearance that he made with Renault.
	They announced a deal to make two small electric cars.
	They're going to go down to the golf cart business, I guess, is where we're going.
	But look, the technological advantage that we had has been banned.
	You can't have internal combustion engines.
	That was a big technological advantage that Western industry had over everybody else.
	I had a lot of experience making these very complicated things.
	They banned that.
	They also banned energy that you need in order to be able to compete in manufacturing.
	If your energy cost is much higher than China, and it is, because of the Paris Climate Accord and other things like that, if that's the case, then deindustrialization is a given.
	And we've been saying this for over a decade.
	That's when they did the Paris Climate Accord.
	Now we're seeing the chickens come home to roost.
	Western car makers are in a fifth lives against Chinese competition, said the boss of Ford, along with the boss of Francis Renault.
	The two companies said yesterday they would work together on two smaller electric cars.
	The first will go on sale as soon as 2028.
	They'll also look at producing vans together.
	We're in a fight for our lives in this industry.
	There's no better example than here in Europe.
	Manufacturers like BYD and Cherry have gained market share by producing well-reviewed electric cars at much lower cost than Western manufacturers.
	Again, they can bring the Chinese price to bear, and it has just been put on steroids.
	no longer simply about intellectual property theft, currency manipulation, and slave labor.
	Now you can add to it a huge cost advantage in terms of energy.
	Well, as all this is happening, Australia has launched their youth social media ban, saying that it'll be the world's first domino to fall.
	And they expect that this is going to be their ability to shut down free speech and anonymity on the internet, to push a global ID.
	I just have to say, we have to look at all these different things and understand that there's a difference between the intended or stated purpose and what is really going to come out of this.
	If parents are going to abdicate the responsibility to their children, so we want the government to do it.
	Well, guess what?
	You're going to wind up with a nanny government.
	And the other aspect of this is that if we have kicked God out of our society, guess what's going to go into that vacuum?
	Government.
	So government needs to solve all of our problems.
	And they've just got a new toy that they tell us can do it, which is artificial intelligence.
	That's the way Trump has put this out.
	It's going to solve all the problems that we have in the 21st century.
	No, it is going to be the seminal problem of the 21st century.
	And so they're going to have government enter the vacuum there.
	You have God vermin.
	Yes, yes.
	Personally, I think this is partially to do with the fact that there is a lot of right-wing content online, which ends up resonating with a lot of young guys.
	Naturally, young men tend to be more right-wing, and so they gravitate towards those sorts of ideals and policies.
	And it's the one space where the government brainwashing isn't totally ubiquitous from every angle.
	That's right.
	So if you can kick these kids off the internet, they're not going to get exposed to any sort of right-wing talking points at all.
	But it's also about whenever they go to war with us.
	When they went to war with us over COVID, boy, they wanted to shut down anybody that opposed the agenda.
	If you say there's any alternative to lockdown until we get the genetic vaccination, if you said that, you're out.
	If you push back against their pandemic, you're out.
	You're shut down.
	We saw this over and over again.
	And if you push back against their wars, they want to censor you as well.
	More than a million social media accounts held by users under 16 are set to be deactivated in Australia in a divisive world-first ban that's being closely watched elsewhere.
	This happens, folks, this is the end of liberty and anonymity on the internet.
	All, of course, in the name of protecting the children.
	They will always put that out there.
	And again, I want to protect children, but this is not the way you do it.
	This is just like the drug war.
	I would like for people not to do drugs, but the way the drug war is being done is not the way to do it.
	It's destroyed law enforcement.
	It has created these massive cartels.
	It has destroyed our justice and prison system as well.
	And now they're using it for justification for a real war, because they don't want to call it prohibition because you'd realize that prohibition was tried.
	It had to be done legally with a constitutional amendment, and it also failed.
	And this has failed now for 51 years.
	So the next step is let's make the drug war a real hot war.
	So can children and teenagers be forced off the social media en masse?
	Well, they're about to find out.
	I don't think they can.
	How difficult is it for you to spoof the system?
	How difficult is it for them to get VPNs?
	They can outlaw them, but there's a way that people will be able to get that out.
	You want to prohibit anything?
	There's going to be a way around it if there's demand for it.
	We should have known that after 51, it's now 54 years, 1971, 54 years of the war on drugs, and the United Nations with its little puppets like Richard Nixon, who did that for the UN, they haven't been able to prohibit drugs.
	Not that they really want to.
	They're some of the biggest traffickers out there.
	More than a million social media accounts held by users under 16 are set to be deactivated in Australia today.
	And again, how they identify these people.
	When you look at YouTube has already started doing this, as a matter of fact, we kind of ran against it with the one computer.
	We just pull up like failed videos and stuff like that.
	I'll watch about 10 minutes or something at night and talk about as we just relax or something.
	Nothing important.
	And so I started putting this thing up, saying that we need to identify who we were.
	I guess it thought we might be teenagers because they're watching really stupid content.
	And I told Lance, I said, I guess we're going to have to watch some music from the, listen to some music from the 40s and 50s, make them think we're a little bit older.
	And I mean, maybe 1840s and 1850s.
	Listen to some classical music because it's just looking at what you're watching and figuring, well, if they're watching a bunch of car crashes and fail videos, probably a bunch of teenagers out there.
	So they need to verify their age.
	So I guess we need to get our YouTube tastes elevated here a little bit, a little bit too lowbrow.
	So they're going to be sucked into purgatory by predatory algorithms, said one person who designed this.
	But they're not talking about the ID.
	They're talking about what is going on with the internet.
	They call it behavioral cocaine.
	So what's the answer to behavioral cocaine?
	The same answer we have to regular cocaine.
	We prohibit it and then it stops, right?
	We don't have cocaine anymore.
	I mean, we outlawed that 54 years ago.
	It's not around anymore, is it?
	Two 15-year-olds have brought a legal challenge against this to the nation's highest court in Australia.
	Supporters say the rest of the world will soon find, will soon follow the example set by the Australian ban, which faced fierce resistance from social media companies because they're the ones who are going to pay the fines.
	They're going to be the ones who are going to do all the work, all the expense, all the investigation, and all of the purging.
	And if they don't do it, then the government can hit them with massive fines.
	Social media companies will be responsible for enforcing the ban, paying up to $32 million for serious or repeated breaches.
	Children and parents will not be punished for any infringements.
	Okay, well, there you go.
	That should make it easy.
	You know, that's actually the way that the war on drugs actually began.
	At the very beginning, it was only the dealers who were being punished.
	The users weren't punished.
	And then Reagan decided that they would go after the end users, along with Biden.
	Might have been Biden's idea.
	And then we know where that wound up.
	We filled up all the prisons, the private prisons.
	They were fine with that because you can get some stock in those private prisons.
	Instagram, YouTube, TikTok, Facebook, X, Snapchat, Reddit, all set to be age-restricted under the law.
	Some have taken action before the ban even takes effect.
	So he had met us saying that they would be closing Instagram and Facebook accounts on December the 4th.
	I don't know if that happened or not.
	I don't play in that space.
	According to a national study, the Australian government commissioned this year 96% of children ages 10 to 15 use social media.
	And they're saying 70% of them have been exposed to harmful content and behavior.
	Well, there's no doubt in my mind that it is harmful for kids.
	And there's no doubt in my mind that it's the parents' responsibility.
	And yet, who's not going to be held responsible?
	The parents.
	They want the social media companies to parent you.
	They want to be the nannies themselves, actually.
	They just want to have some substitute nannies that are doing this for them.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break, folks, and we come back.
	I'm not finished with war.
	We've got more to say about war.
	But just to let you know what's going on, Travis is not in a seat over here today.
	And that's because we've got Lance working on a special project.
	And so Travis will be kicking in with comments and things like that.
	Yep, I'm back in the yes, yes.
	You want to read the comments or you want me to read them?
	I can read them.
	Okay, go for it.
	Iboose says, warmonger working for Fox.
	Huh?
	Don't forget Sensei Hannity.
	That's right.
	He's the guy out there.
	Yeah, isn't it amazing how these guys who were never in the military are such warmongers?
	Maybe they've never had a friend they saw get blown apart.
	That's the reality of it.
	And they're detached from that reality.
	They mostly come from rich families that never had to worry about their son being sent off.
	They could make sure that they got placed in positions if they were in the military that ensured they wouldn't see combat.
	Whackjaw says, I saw that ridiculous speech last night.
	Trump is a pure liar and very evil.
	This clown supposedly went to the Wharton School of Business and he can't even keep a casino open.
	A casino, for God's sake.
	Yeah, that is crazy.
	You know, I guess he loves to set rules and things for people, but you know, when you have a casino, typically they set the rules up so the house always wins.
	He wasn't smart enough to do that.
	I have heard some people say he specifically tanked them for tax reasons, but who knows?
	Oh, come on.
	He wouldn't do that for tax reasons.
	It's his ego.
	You know, that was the thing when the Rothschilds came to him with Wilbur Ross.
	And Wilbur Ross got up there.
	Big crowd around Trump.
	He goes, hey, I think we can use this guy.
	He's a real snake charmer, right?
	Pied Piper.
	And so, you know, he basically let them do anything that they wanted.
	He just wanted his name on the building.
	He doesn't, if he wants his name on the building, he's not letting it fail for tax purposes.
	Remember in the original Batman movie where Jack Nicholson says, you know, I want my face on the $1 bill.
	That's all I can picture.
	Defy Tyrants.
	1776 says, wasn't Pesobic the guy who said there was watermarked ballots?
	No, no, that's a totally different charlatan.
	Yeah, that's another guy who worked for the intelligence agencies, another controlled opposition mouthpiece that's out there.
	People, they don't realize just how Operation Mockingbird works in the 21st century.
	You know, back when Walter Cronkite was doing it, they basically give him the script.
	What they do now is they establish these people in alternative media like Alex Jones' Infowars.
	They put in Steve Pieczenik, they put in Pesobiot.
	And these are intelligence assets who, oh, they're retired now.
	Well, no, probably not, right?
	And they feed people all these lies about January the 6th and fentanyl coming across the Canadian border and all the rest of this stuff.
	Somehow I feel like it might be the mafia.
	There's no such thing as retirement.
	You're always at their beckon.
	That's right.
	We have So Bogus saying, if I don't have the right to murder someone because they are possessing drugs, how do I delegate the right to murder that person to government representatives?
	That's right.
	And that's exactly Rand Paul's making some of the statements just like I did.
	So they've got very strict protocols, as Marky Margaret, New Jersey point out.
	They have certain people, that's their specialty Coast Guard people and everything.
	They have to do it by the book when they interdict drugs at sea.
	A quarter of the time, they're wrong when they think somebody's got drugs.
	So you don't just blow them out of the water.
	And then when you go there, you have certain protocols that you must follow because this is going to go through courts and due process.
	And you don't want to get these, if you're going to come after these people for your illegal war on drugs, you don't want to have a legal loophole that they can get out of it with it.
	So it's a very precise protocol.
	And as I said from the very beginning, so you interdict these people, and they're still doing that everywhere else.
	The Coast Guard is still doing that in all other waters.
	But you stop these people.
	You search, you find the drugs.
	What do you do?
	You line them up on the side of the boat and machine gun them like the Nazis did with the Great Escape Prisoners.
	That's why I played that clip.
	And basically Rand Paul made that statement, a very powerful statement that he made yesterday.
	So we're going to talk about that coming up as well.
	And we have, let's see, the real octospook.
	We do have real nation security threats, and Trump's tariffs address none of them.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Yeah, you want to talk about the real national security threat.
	Why is he focused on the trade deficit and he doesn't care anything about the government spending deficit?
	See, it's all about misdirection.
	And, you know, when we look at all these other things, and these are important issues that are happening, this is war and peace and things like that.
	But he's got all these other issues that are out there.
	All of them really are important to some level or the other.
	But as this is being done, he is completely restructuring our society to have all power concentrated into the hands of the government and the techno broligarchy, as some people called it, right?
	His brother oligarchs.
	And they're going to do that with artificial intelligence.
	And he's laying the legal, quote-unquote, legal foundation because he's putting out pronouncements from the White House.
	And that's what passes now for a legal process.
	They are laying the foundation for all this stuff, as I reported the other day, and putting in a global ID system so that you won't be able to buy, sell, or trade.
	I mean, this is mark of the beast stuff.
	People need to wake up and pay attention to this.
	But that's what's going on while everybody's looking at all this other noise and disturbance that he's doing everywhere else on these other issues.
	And it's not to say those other issues are not important.
	You know, he's setting fires everywhere.
	And while that's happening, he's letting a whole string of bombs that he can detonate remote control.
	It's just insane what's happening right now.
	Go ahead, Travis.
	That's right.
	We have Defy Tyrant 1776 again.
	It says, DK, the Constitution, is what created this cancerous Leviathan.
	We govern ourselves just fine under the Articles of Confederation, but they needed to take control over the states, and that's what the Constitution has done.
	Well, I agree that the Articles of Confederation were much better.
	But how did we get the Constitution?
	You know, the argument for that was we need to have a common defense.
	And so we got backed into this thing really with a national security argument.
	And the Constitution is really not that good of a document if you don't have the Bill of Rights.
	And the Bill of Rights is there because James Madison and others recognized that with some of these clauses, like the general welfare thing that they propose to do and the Commerce Clause and things like that, that if it wasn't directly opposed with the 10th Amendment, that could be very dangerous.
	Well, they put the 10th Amendment in, but it's just ignored.
	And so we have the war on drugs is not, they don't have a constitutional amendment to let them ban all these different drugs.
	They just say, well, we can do it under the Commerce Clause.
	And so they're ignoring the 10th Amendment amended the Constitution.
	If you want to make an argument that drug prohibition can be done under the Commerce Clause, well, if you look at the Constitution, I don't think you can make that case.
	But let's say that you did.
	Well, the 10th Amendment just shut that down.
	It was shut down.
	And the General Welfare Clause, the same thing.
	If you want to make that case, it doesn't really matter because if the 10th Amendment applies, and it does, it shut down those loopholes that were put in there.
	Go ahead, Travis.
	All right.
	We have the real.
	Hold on.
	There we go.
	High Boost says, what is David drinking?
	Inquiring minds want to know.
	Oh, I'm drinking coffee.
	I need to clear my throat more frequently now since the stroke.
	And so I used to wait until I take a break, but I have to do it more frequently now.
	Coffee keeps the show running.
	That's right.
	Runs on coffee.
	Anigo Sonita says now AJ has Patrick Byrne on pushing the war propaganda.
	Yes, multiple times.
	Multiple times.
	And even put up that he's an intelligence asset.
	Alex isn't trying to hide anymore that he's being controlled by the CIA shills.
	I mean, it was getting pretty obvious already before when we were there.
	And again, when you look at Alex and look at Tucker, how many people do you know that have a lot of family in the CIA?
	I never knew anybody that had been even tangentially involved in the CIA until I got there.
	And it seems like he's full of it.
	He really is full of it.
	Go ahead, Travis.
	That's right.
	Guard Gold says, Madison said in the letter that the Commerce Clause was remedial after state-on-state conflict over trade policies, tariffs.
	Yeah.
	Yeah, they were enacting tariffs between different states.
	And that's really the point of the Commerce Clause.
	It was to keep trade going.
	Instead, what they have done with War on Drugs is to shut trade down, if you don't look at it that way, and to assert control over everything, commercial.
	And so they took something, just like they do that with everything.
	They did it with the FISA Act, okay?
	So the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.
	They said you're not going to spy on people without a search warrant if they're in America.
	Even if it's a foreign citizen in America, you're not going to spy on them.
	You can only spy on foreign citizens in foreign countries.
	And so they used the FISA court then to turn that upside down and to get a, to say, well, now the FISA court has given us a search warrant for Mr. and Mrs. Verizon.
	They told us we could search everybody's phone.
	So now, see, we complied with the law.
	So they used the thing that was supposed to stop them from doing what they were doing at the very beginning.
	They were surveilling people through phone issues from the very inception of the NSA and the CIA.
	And that's why they had these hearings.
	And so they redirect it to their illegal coups and assassinations.
	And then when they get the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, you know, there wasn't anything that came out of the church committee hearing or the Pike Committee hearings to stop them from doing any coups, assassinations, or anything like that.
	So that wasn't the issue.
	It wasn't about the heart attack gun and things like that.
	It was about them spying on Americans without a search warrant.
	And the thing that came out of it was the FISA Act.
	And so then they used that to give themselves legal cover to do exactly what they were trying to stop.
	And that's what they did with the Commerce Clause.
	The Commerce Clause, you're right, Guard, Liberty Conspiracy.
	It was because they were enacting terrorists or enacting, being enacted by one state against another state.
	And they said, no, we want to have a free trade zone.
	And so that was a part of it.
	Now what they do is they say, well, we're going to use the Commerce Clause to prohibit drugs, and we're also going to use it to control all commerce.
	And we're going to prohibit commerce.
	And we're going to come into your state and regulate you because regulate the businesses that are there that are sending products across state lines.
	So they used it in exactly the opposite way that it was intended.
	Everything in the Constitution is being twisted, perverted, turned upside down, turned inside out by these crooks that we have in government now.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break and we're going to be right back.
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	Trump is pushing Ukraine to accept the peace deal, saying that Ukraine is losing.
	Well, he's absolutely right about this.
	And it's not that Trump is a peacemaker.
	This is the amazing thing to me.
	His obsession and his desire to have the Nobel Peace Prize and the lies that he's put out about how many wars he has ended.
	It's total nonsense.
	And you can see that he's not a peacemaker.
	He's not a peacemaker when it comes to politics, when it comes to domestic policy.
	He's not a peacemaker when it comes to foreign policy either.
	He's out there with this dirty little war in Venezuela, and it is a dirty little war.
	So he's not blessed as a peacemaker.
	I think he's going to be cursed as a warmonger.
	But he dialed up the pressure there in Ukraine.
	I think he just wants to have a war that he can win.
	He can win the war easily with Venezuela.
	He doesn't want to go to war with Russia, which is a smart thing, surprisingly smart for Trump.
	We don't want to have a war with Russia.
	We don't want to have a nuclear war.
	Zelensky wants us to have one.
	The British, French, and German leaders want us to have one.
	They have absolutely no regard for their own people, quite obviously.
	And that includes a nuclear war.
	They're making preparations for that.
	And they're very angry with anybody who will pull back from their world war, their world nuclear war.
	Trump wants to have war, but he wants it in places where there's an asymmetric dynamic going on.
	You know, let's bomb civilians in Gaza.
	Let's bomb civilians in Venezuela.
	Let's blow up unarmed ships.
	Trump dialed up the pressure on Ukraine to swiftly accept a U.S.-designed peace plan.
	European backers insist that U.S. security guarantees are vital to a peace deal.
	Exacerbating tensions between Europe and Washington, Trump lambasted European leaders as weak and said that Russia holds the cards in any peace negotiations with Ukraine.
	So point out, they are rapidly taking land, rapidly advancing in Ukraine.
	I mean, it looks like Ukraine is collapsing.
	And this is always the way this is going to turn out.
	And Trump even says that.
	He says, you know, they're too tiny to be able to beat Russia.
	Trump says Zelensky has until Christmas to accept the peace deal.
	Or else, what?
	You know, what is the or else?
	I don't know.
	But anyway, maybe they get a lump of coal in their stocking.
	Yeah, I was going to say he's going on the naughty list.
	Yeah, Zelensky's been on the naughty list for a very, very long time.
	There's a very long list of naughty that he's involved in.
	What are you going to say, Travis?
	No, just say, he's going on the naughty list.
	He's not getting any more bombs.
	They put him on the no-fly list.
	Trump has told Zelensky that he has until Christmas to accept the deal to end the war with Russia.
	The president's envoys, Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff, I mean, what could go wrong with those two guys, right?
	Delivered the warning in a two-hour-long phone call with the Ukrainian leader after their recent talks with Putin in Moscow.
	And again, I reported yesterday, Trump was saying over the weekend he was very upset.
	Apparently, Zelensky didn't even care enough about peace to look at the plan.
	He says, he haven't read it.
	Of course he hasn't read it.
	He doesn't want peace.
	He wants war.
	This has been apparent from the very beginning, and so does Europe.
	He is their cat's paw for these European leaders who want to have a war.
	Why do they want to have a war?
	For the same reason that all these people want to have wars.
	It's a wag the dog thing.
	The same reason that Clinton got us involved in that war in Yugoslavia and Serbia and things like that.
	Because it's to distract people from what the bad things that are happening around him or the bad things that are happening to them in their own country.
	Netanyahu had big issues in Israel, in Israel, and so therefore you get a war.
	Clinton has big issues, so we have a war.
	And they have created huge issues throughout Britain, Germany, France, in terms of immigration.
	Their industry is collapsing because that's what they've been working on.
	And when people see the result, people realize that it was their policy.
	It wasn't something that happened accidentally.
	Then they're going to get the picks and the shovels and the torches and come after them.
	So the way that you stop that is you take people to war.
	In a separate wide-ranging interview, Trump said that Ukraine would eventually succumb to Russia if a deal was not signed.
	He also condemned European leaders as weak for failing to end the war and accused them of presiding over a decaying continent diminished by illegal migration and political correctness.
	Trump is 100% correct about this.
	Again, you still have to watch what he does.
	Writing on social media on Tuesday night, Zelensky said that he was working very actively with European allies to formulate a proposal to end the war.
	I don't believe that for a minute.
	He told reporters that he'd asked officials to draw plans to hold elections within 60 to 90 days under martial law.
	He declared martial law because under their law, there are no elections under martial law.
	And so he is trying to appease these people one way.
	The guy is a petty little dictator and a crook.
	He and his wife have skimmed so much money.
	The corruption in the Zelensky administration is off the charts and with Ukraine just in general.
	Ukrainian law forbids elections being held during martial law, but Zelensky said they could take place as long as the U.S. and Europe provide security guarantees relating to the vote.
	And then this is thrown in by the UK Telegraph.
	Russia has been known to interfere in European elections.
	Prove it.
	But so what?
	I mean, we interfere in elections.
	We overthrew Ukraine with a coup.
	I mean, give me a break.
	What?
	True or not, what difference does it make?
	All the elections everywhere are rigged and crooked.
	And that's especially true of Ukraine.
	So Trump told Politico, he said in the interview, he said, Russia has the upper hand.
	They always did.
	They're much bigger.
	They're much stronger in that sense.
	And at some point, size will win, generally.
	This is a massive size.
	When you take a look at the numbers, I mean, the numbers are just crazy.
	So this is what everybody was saying from the very beginning.
	And you had some, a few military analysts in the U.S., but you also had people speaking out in India, which is really not involved one way or the other.
	They weren't on Russia's side or NATO's side or whatever.
	They said, yeah, there's no way they're going to win this.
	And they're going to fight them to the last Ukrainian, which is really what the plan appears to be.
	We're going to keep fighting until we've got no more Ukrainians because what we want to do is weaken Russia.
	And they're their puppets for doing that.
	And so, you know, what Trump is saying here, the size disparity is so amazing.
	And he realizes that about Venezuela.
	That's why he's doing what he's doing in Venezuela.
	And when you talk about what Putin did in terms of invading Ukraine, it's a lot easier to make a justification for that than there is to make a justification for Trump's war in Venezuela.
	After all, Ukraine was an area that was part of Russia for 400 years.
	And it was split off after the Soviet disunion.
	And then it has been a NATO cat's paw ever since for all of that.
	Asked what would happen if Zelensky rejected the latest U.S. proposal.
	The president said, well, he's going to have to get on the ball and start accepting things.
	You know, when you're losing, because he is losing.
	So since the call with the president's envoys, Zelensky has visited London, Brussels, and Rome to shore up support from European allies for his little war.
	The White House previously endorsed a 28-point plan that demanded Ukraine unilaterally withdraw from its eastern Donbass region of Donetsk and Luhansk as the price to end the war.
	They don't have to withdraw.
	They're being thrown out.
	Ukrainian negotiators warned this would be unacceptable.
	But they have not ruled out ceding territory as long as Russia is willing to make a quote-unquote reciprocal concession.
	Now, what would that be?
	They think that they're going to get Russia to give up land?
	This is beyond delusional.
	As a matter of fact, the only guy who's really such an interesting character, and he never gets any exposure here in the United States, and that's Alexei Arestovich, the guy who was, you know, when Zelensky came to power in 2019, the civil war had been going on the aftermath of the CIA coup.
	The civil war had been going on for five years, and they had been shelling these cities that they're now so upset about the fact that Russia is shelling these cities.
	And it doesn't excuse Russia doing it.
	It was wrong for Russia to do it.
	It was also wrong for Ukraine to do it.
	But that had been going on for five years.
	And so Alexei Arstovich, as the Zelensky government came in in 2019, was part of a peace commission that was trying to shut this thing down.
	And he was the representative and he comes back and was interviewed on Ukrainian television.
	And the reporter asked him, said, what's the chances of peace?
	He said, none.
	She goes, oh, that's terrible.
	And he goes, it gets worse.
	He said, in three years, we're going to be at war with Russia.
	And guess what?
	Russia attacked in three years.
	Hmm.
	That's interesting.
	How do you know that exact timing?
	And then she said, that's horrible.
	And he goes, yes, Ukraine will be havoc.
	In other words, it's going to be decimated.
	But he goes, the good news is we get into NATO.
	Obviously, she didn't care.
	Who would care about that except a politician?
	And so he's just right out there.
	He tells everybody what's going.
	He's like Donald Trump, right?
	And then he goes ahead and he does these horrible things.
	And when they had, at one point in the war, if you recall, there were some cruise missiles that were being sent in by Russia.
	They were fired upon by Ukrainian defense forces and hit them.
	And one of them went careening into an apartment building.
	And they tried to make that about the Russians attacking civilians, which the Ukrainian government had been doing for five years before Zelensky even got into office.
	And they continued to do that.
	Arrestovich went on television and said it wasn't intentional.
	This thing went off course because we hit it.
	And that got Zelensky so upset that he fired him because he was telling the truth in a very candid way.
	Well, I mention all this again because Restovich had said about three or four months ago, if you recall, I talked about it briefly.
	He said, there isn't any resolution out of this.
	We're going to lose.
	So we need to get out in front of this and cut the best deal we can.
	And so he's been telling them the truth all along.
	It may be evil what he is pushing.
	We just got to get into NATO.
	But that is the reality.
	They're losing and they need to cut the best deal that they can while they can.
	The longer they wait, the worse the deal.
	Ukrainian negotiators feel like they've not been offered sufficient details about potential security guarantees from Washington in order to make a decision over the territory.
	Kiev has asked for a guarantee that would resemble NATO's Article 5.
	In other words, they want to guarantee that we will be dragged into a nuclear war with Russia over some territorial dispute with them and Russia.
	So Kirstarmer and Macron and Fred Mertz, maybe Ricky Ricardo too, who knows?
	They got them all in there.
	The Coalition of the Willing, that's what they call it.
	Yeah, they're willing for what?
	They're willing for a nuclear war.
	And so these guys are pushing back against Trump and they are supporting Zelensky and all of this.
	Last week, in a national security strategy document, the U.S. claimed that Europe was facing civilizational erasure.
	And I read you excerpts from that last week.
	And I was really surprised.
	It has not really been reported on here in the United States.
	They don't consider that to be newsworthy.
	I thought it was very newsworthy.
	You know, laid everything out there.
	Some of that Trump is saying now.
	Whether or not they will do it, I don't know.
	But he made the case that Europe was weak, that it was committing suicide, attacking its own citizens in multiple ways, that it couldn't stand, and that we didn't want to be drugged down with it.
	It was reported, the only people that I saw report that was Russia today.
	I mean, I looked.
	I didn't see anybody else with that out there.
	Of course, Russia put that in there because it showed a division between the U.S. and Europe, and it was a division that was, you know, big enough you could drive an aircraft carrier through it.
	They're miles apart.
	33-page document.
	Also blamed Europe for standing in the way of Trump's efforts to end the Ukrainian-Russian war and called for renewed U.S. relations with Moscow.
	During the Politico interview, Trump suggested European leaders would continue their support for Ukraine's armed resistance aimlessly until they, quote-unquote, until they drop, unquote, or until they suffer a military defeat.
	Trump said European leaders, quote, talk, but they don't produce, unquote.
	He asked whether he thought the Europeans were doing the right thing.
	He said, well, they can't be doing too right because look at what's happened.
	The U.S. president added that Europe's immigration policies had made the continent a different place, he said.
	And if it keeps going that way, it's going, that Europe will not be, in my opinion, many of those countries will not be viable countries anymore.
	Their immigration policy is a disaster, he said.
	And then he singled out London and the leadership of Sadiq Khan.
	Well, absolutely.
	But, you know, what these people are doing, it's deliberate.
	They're bringing the barbarians into the gate to attack their own people.
	And it's why they need to have war in order to stay in power.
	A U.S. national security strategy berating Europe has triggered a wave of acrimony across the Atlantic, enraging and dismaying European officials who say the document has turned the Trump administration's vitriol against European democracies into formal policy.
	Well, the interesting thing is, they're all reporting about the reaction of the European leaders to this.
	Guess what they're not doing?
	They're not showing you the document.
	I mean, the document is something that you would see from somebody like the French Nationalist Party or Tommy Robinson or somebody like that.
	It's criticizing the European government so strongly that the mainstream media here and there don't want to report it.
	What's in the actual document?
	And this is a document that was drawn up by the White House, the National Security Statement.
	So they will talk about the reactions to it, but they won't show you the document.
	It's a good document, right?
	So good that I said I don't think that Trump will follow through on it, that he was just using this as a negotiating tactic, strongly criticizing Europe and so forth to make his case for this negotiation.
	Tensions erupted after the U.S. strategy painted the EU as a bigger threat than Russia or China and said that Europe risks civilizational erasure because of the immigrants and the progressive social policies.
	All of that is true.
	It really is a political suicide that's being done there.
	After that, also reacting to this document, Macron has warned that the U.S. could betray Ukraine in a leaked call between the leaders.
	So they leaked this out to Der Spiegel.
	Europe rallied around Zelensky and sharply criticized Washington.
	Well, they demand war at any cost.
	Trump, however, is not a peacemaker.
	He just wants to have a situation where he's much bigger than the people he's attacking.
	He doesn't want to have a war with Russia.
	Good.
	I hope that that is reality.
	But he is certainly not noble.
	He doesn't deserve a peace prize.
	He is not a peacemaker.
	He is a warmonger.
	If you look at what is going on with Venezuela.
	And of course, he made comments yesterday.
	I think it was in this politico interview that came out yesterday.
	Also talking about, well, you know, Mexico and Colombia have got some drug problems too.
	Maybe we'll use the military against them.
	I mean, if you want to actually make this about the war on drugs and make it an actual war, those would be the countries that you would be attacking.
	Not Canada, not Venezuela.
	The question is, when will he use the drug war excuse in order to use federal police to attack the cities, the cities that he doesn't like?
	And that's the key.
	That's why when I did that Trumpocalypse, that was really what it was about.
	No safety or surprise the end.
	I'll never look into your eyes again.
	It's a very unsafe crisis, and we're going to straighten that one by one.
	They're saying you're trying to take over the Republic.
	And this is going to be a major part for some of the people in this room.
	That's a war, too.
	It's a war from within.
	I told Pete, we should use some of these dangerous cities as training grounds for our military.
	Can you picture what will be solid and set free?
	Desperately in need of some strangers.
	Have it all desperate land yeah,
	that's right.
	And that's my concern about it, is that all of this talk, and that's why I put that in from the very beginning.
	I said, this is, you know, this guy doesn't care what the Constitution says.
	And at the same time, he, you know, he's doing this stuff with the cities, he starts up Venezuela.
	When I did that, that was in response to him putting up his Apocalypse Now meme, and I animated that.
	And then I said, I think that where he wants to go with all this stuff is using his federal police army of robots against people.
	And I really do believe that now.
	Because if you look at the justification for going against Venezuela, it's saying that the drug war is going to really be a real war now.
	We've got to go after Mexico.
	We've got to go after Colombia.
	We've got to go after other countries that don't have any drug trafficking.
	We'll go after them when they say they're doing fentanyl when they're not doing fentanyl.
	And so Freelot Project says, so does America first mean bombing Venezuela first?
	The neocons are duping gullible Americans again.
	And I think the drug war is one of the biggest dupes that they have ever done.
	And I think that they will use that.
	They'll use it for conflict in the different cities.
	And he will use this as an excuse to federalize, to militarize, to use artificial intelligence surveillance and a police state.
	He will use the drug war.
	This has been the favorite hobby horse of government encroachment and destruction of the Constitution since its inception by Richard Nixon.
	And it will continue to be used that way.
	As the U.S. crumbles from within, the government is using recycled propaganda to drag a gullible public into another census war in order to protect their crumbling power.
	See, same thing's happening in Europe.
	Same thing.
	You know, they're crumbling from within, so they use a war to distract people.
	So Washington is always busy cooking up the next distraction, even though you've got a $38 trillion deficit.
	They call this one the Operation Southern Spear.
	They tell you it's necessary to save your children from fentanyl.
	They tell you it's about freedom.
	But if you've been paying attention for the last 20 years of American foreign policy, you know exactly what it is.
	It's a smash and grab robbery of the U.S. Treasury disguised as a moral crusade.
	The war drums beating in Venezuela are not new.
	They were beating in 2019 when Trump first threatened a naval blockade.
	Under the twisted legal logic provided by the administration, Secretary of War, quote-unquote, Pete Hegseth, recently proclaimed, we have only just begun to kill narco-terrorists, or anybody that they want to label as a terrorist.
	And of course, they're now saying that dealing drugs is the same as violence.
	The left said speech was violence.
	The right saying drugs are violence.
	And they're both lying to you for their own purposes.
	When a boat is destroyed and men are left lobbying in the Caribbean, strafing them as they beg for their lives is not defense.
	It is an atrocity.
	But the facts do matter to the war machine, don't matter to the war machine.
	As many free thinkers will recall, in 2003, they told us that Iraq had yellow cake uranium, remember that?
	And aluminum tubes for nuclear weapons.
	It was all a lie.
	In 2011, U.S. Ambassador Susan Rice stood before the world and claimed that Gaddafi was supplying his troops with Viagra to encourage mass rape.
	It was a sensationalist fabrication used to manufacture consent for a bombing campaign that turned Libya into an open-air slave market.
	And oh, by the way, this Sarkozy guy out of France who just went to prison, he had a lot to do with starting that.
	And it was because of corruption.
	He was corrupt and getting money from Gaddafi.
	They cut him off, and he threatened him, and he made good on his threat.
	So again, he goes to jail, but they're going to let him out.
	If they haven't already, I think they're already talking about pardoning him as soon as they put him in.
	While some Democrats feign outrage at Trump's escalation, they're ignoring the uncomfortable truth.
	Trump and Hegseth are cashing a blank check for carnage that was written years earlier by Obama.
	As Jim Bovard previously detailed, Obama laid the foundation for the very extrajudicial killings that we're witnessing today.
	In his 2017 farewell address, he boasted, Obama did, we've taken out tens of thousands of terrorists.
	This is the same man who, as a candidate in 2007, said, we will again set an example for the world that the law is not subject to the whims of stubborn rulers.
	Unless it's him.
	Once in power, however, the whims of the rulers became law.
	When questioned about the killings of an American teenager, Obama's former press secretary, Robert Gibbs, callously remarked, well, I would suggest that he should have a far more responsible father.
	Obama loaded the gun, now Trump is firing off the rounds.
	Just like Trump loaded the syringe and Biden mandated the injections.
	You see how it works?
	Left, right, left, right?
	And it is bipartisan.
	They get everybody fighting over which tribe and which color they are.
	It's so pathetic to look at politics.
	It really is.
	Perhaps the most disappointing aspect of this recycled war propaganda is the silence from those who once claimed to oppose it.
	In 2019, when the first wave of regime change rhetoric was aimed at Venezuela, Tulsi Gabbard was one of the few voices of reason.
	She correctly identified that U.S. intervention would only lead to, quote, death and destruction, unquote.
	Today, as director of national intelligence, Gabbard's silence is deafening.
	And folks, she joins Pam Bondi, Cash Battelle, and Dan Bongino as a bunch of spineless careerists.
	They're there just to feather their nests and to do whatever the man in charge wants them to do.
	The woman who famously destroyed Lala Harris on a debate stage for her prosecutorial overreach is now overseeing the very intelligence apparatus that is feeding those lies to the American public.
	It is a stark reminder that the problem isn't just the people in charge.
	It is the machine itself.
	When you step into the halls of power, you either grease the gears of the war machine or you are crushed by them.
	There is no middle ground.
	And the real threat, if we want to look at it, is domestic, just like the EU.
	Trump wants a war that he can win.
	The only difference is that the EU doesn't really care if they win the war.
	That's how suicidal they are.
	So why Venezuela?
	Why now?
	Just look around you.
	The U.S. is collapsing from within.
	They have lied to us about every major conflict since Vietnam.
	If your guy is dropping bombs on innocent people based on a lie, your guy is a tyrant.
	I don't care if he's a donkey or an elephant, if he's red or blue or whatever.
	Spread the truth.
	When your family or co-workers repeat the Venezuela fentanyl narrative, show them the data.
	Show them the history.
	The war machine relies on your fear and your ignorance.
	Deny them both of those things.
	I agree, 100%.
	Well, Rand Paul, talking about this, he said, would you also shoot them in the head?
	And this is what I've said from the very first day.
	You know, when we interdict drugs using the Coast Guard, we have very specific procedures.
	And if they find the drugs, they take the drugs and they take the people and they put them on trial and they send them to jail.
	Well, what they're doing now is not even determining if there's any drugs on board and just executing everybody.
	So what if we had a middle position where you actually go through the procedure to make sure that this is not, as they pointed out, 25% of the time it's not innocent people.
	So all right, they really got drugs.
	So now we line up and shoot them in the head.
	Well, that would still be wrong.
	And so they try to make it into a war.
	They try to pretend that the drugs are actually violence.
	There are a lot of things, but they're not violence directly like that.
	The President has said earlier, about a week earlier, that he would have no problem with a second video coming out.
	So this was Rand Paul being interviewed on Fox News.
	They said, do you believe that it should be released, Senator?
	He says, yes, without question, said Rand Paul.
	I think if people were to see the images of people clinging to the wreckage, there wouldn't be much sympathy for Secretary Hegseth to order the killing of people who are shipwrecked.
	It is clearly illegal according to military justice, according to our own military laws.
	Excuse me.
	And he added, he said, and you know, I have members of my staff who are high-ranking in the military.
	They tell me that this is done for the protection of our soldiers.
	If our pilots have to eject from a plane, we show that we don't shoot people.
	We don't shoot pilots that are descending by parachute.
	If we blow up a boat and there are survivors, we don't shoot those people.
	We don't sidle up in a boat and take a nine millimeter pistol out and shoot them in the head.
	This is why, folks, I played the Great Escape.
	I said, this is what's going on.
	The people who are prisoners there in those Nazi prisoner of war camps, they were pilots that had bailed out and survived.
	And then after they escaped enough times, it became a pain in the behind to the Nazis.
	They just said, okay, we've had enough of this.
	Take them out in the field and machine gun them.
	He said, so you're going to put a gun to their head and shoot them?
	Nobody would do that.
	But just because the missiles come from a long distance doesn't make it anymore right.
	We're in the middle of a war with unarmed people.
	Why don't they present evidence that they are even armed?
	Why don't they present evidence that these boats are even coming to the United States?
	Because the evidence is that they're not.
	They're not capable of making that trip.
	And what we have found, and as I said, it's so reprehensible that some of these partisan cheerleaders are saying, you know, just like Kelly, I want more of this.
	I want them to suffer.
	And then you've got people saying, well, what if, you know, we went to rescue them?
	And what if they pulled out a pistol and they shot our brave Navy SEALs?
	Seriously?
	You don't think Navy SEALs could handle that?
	But they pull out a pistol.
	These are guys who are struggling to not drown for 41 minutes.
	They can't even get the flotsam that they're in the midst of.
	They can't even get the boat righted so they have a chance to get back to shore.
	And they're waving at the plane that's coming in that took them out.
	It was murder.
	Premeditated murder.
	They talked about it for 41 minutes.
	He said, to make a crime into a war is to stretch credibility to the point that I think a lot of common sense people are not going to buy this.
	And I think that's why, you know, they didn't call it prohibition.
	They called it drug war.
	He said, if the admiral were there on the scene and he came in a follow-up boat, would he take out his 9mm pistol and put it against the head of the survivors and shoot them in the head?
	Paul said, it's easy to sit here and say, oh, I just push a button.
	I'm in an air-conditioned room 10,000 miles away, and I antiseptically blow these people up.
	But, you know, a month later, they didn't do that.
	Because I think somebody finally said, oh, you know what?
	We just read the military justice law of justice, and we're not supposed to kill survivors.
	And you know what they did a month later?
	They picked up two people who were not from Venezuela.
	They did not prosecute them for drugs.
	They collected no drugs.
	They collected no weapons.
	They just said, oh, you can go back home.
	One out of four boats that the Coast Guard boarded before we came up with this, blow them out to Smithereen's policy, one out of four did not have any drugs.
	So are we willing to accept an error rate of one in four and to kill people on these boats when they might be wrong one in four times?
	I think that's a tragedy.
	You know, so that would mean that about, if that ratio were to hold up, that'd mean about five of the boats were not doing drugs.
	And I see all over social media people showing the black and white video that was taken, evidently, by the Reaper drones or whatever it is that they're using.
	And say, look, they're going really fast.
	And look, they're throwing stuff out of the water.
	So I guess they're throwing out lobster cages and all the rest of the stuff.
	Making fun of the fact that they're fishermen.
	Folks, it doesn't matter, really, if they were fishermen or if they were doing drugs.
	It's still murder if they were doing drugs.
	That crime does not carry the death penalty.
	Let's imagine that, I don't know, make up a crime.
	Let's say you're doing shoplifting, okay?
	Which is no longer even a misdemeanor in California.
	But let's say that they treat it for what it is, that it really is a crime.
	And these people are not armed, but they have committed a crime.
	And in every jurisdiction, except California, for example, they should be arrested and tried and jailed for shoplifting.
	But let's say that your policy is then that you just shoot them in the back.
	That's not justified.
	And that's what they're doing.
	There is no law that says there's a death penalty for moving cocaine in boats.
	And while all that's happening, you most likely had the guy running Palantir going to a presentation sky high on cocaine.
	And they do it.
	They get away with it.
	Hunter Biden gets away with it.
	Nobody's going to execute Hunter Biden with that stuff, right?
	He's got Secret Service protecting him.
	But anyway, center claims that Trump is sleepwalking us into a war with Venezuela for oil.
	Well, that's what it is all about.
	Chris Coons, Democrat Delaware, said Trump and Heg Seth are sleepwalking the U.S. into a war with Venezuela just to get the country's oil.
	Yeah, this is, we're back to war is a racket.
	Smedley Butler.
	Koons called for more transparency on Trump's formed boat strikes as he fears the real motivation is to spark a war between Venezuela and the U.S. Trump and others have accused the Venezuelan President Maduro of heading an operation sending drugs in the U.S.
	Well, it's just as absurd as a lie that Canada was doing fentanyl.
	And if you want to get at the people who are really behind the drug trade, go to the CIA.
	Start arresting those people.
	You see, the strike that kills two individuals standing on top of a floating piece of wreckage, waving at something, presumably the plane that is closing in on them to kill them.
	And the larger frame, Koons saw the video.
	He said, the larger frame here that matters is whether this entire undertaking is a good use of the exquisite and expensive resources of our special forces.
	Whether these drugs were on their way to the U.S. at all.
	There's been no proof of that.
	And whether this is the most effective way to actually interrupt the cartels that are poisoning Americans with drugs.
	I'm afraid that Hegseth and Trump are sleepwalking us into a war with Venezuela because they want the oil and gas of Venezuela.
	That's right.
	They don't have fentanyl.
	They just happen to have the world's largest known reserves of oil, bigger than Saudi Arabia.
	And this is a 21st century colonialism, but it sets up a very, very dangerous precedent, I think.
	And that's the thing that really concerns me, is how is he going to use this?
	Are we going to have the police taking the war on drugs and making it a literal war?
	We've gotten pretty close to that already.
	So Trump is sending shockwaves through Mexico and Colombia, insinuating that they are also in his sights for the quote-unquote drug war.
	So he didn't rule out expanding U.S. military operations beyond Venezuela to the places where they're actually doing the drugs, Mexico and Colombia.
	President said in an interview taped this week that he would consider using military force in those two countries.
	He cited Mexico and Colombia's drug trade in the U.S. as he continues threatening to overthrow the Venezuelan government.
	Mexico is the primary country for trafficking a variety of narcotics, including heroin, fentanyl, and cocaine in the U.S. Colombia is the largest producer of cocaine.
	Sure, I would, said Trump, when asked by Politico if he'd consider using force against targets in other Latin American countries with active drug trade.
	I don't rule it in or out.
	I don't want to talk about it.
	I don't want to talk to you about military strategy.
	Oh, okay, so here we pull the veil of unwarranted national security over this.
	I can't talk to you about this.
	I'd have to kill you, too, right?
	Is he planning to do this as a sneak attack?
	Or is this simply going to war against Mexico and Colombia as well?
	Is that going to be another sneak attack against the Constitution, as well as the countries?
	He wants to do this to sneak past Congress, the Constitution, and we, the people, for his dirty little wars.
	Trump recently pardoned former Honduran president Orlando Hernandez, who had been convicted on multiple counts involving drug trafficking.
	A lot of people called him out on the stupidity of this.
	So how's this guy who really is a drug trafficker, how is it that you pardoned him when you are coming after Maduro and you've even got to make up a non-existent organization, the Cartel of the Sons or whatever.
	The Honduran president was actually doing this.
	And so you pardon him, but you're killing people that you say are part of a drug organization that doesn't really exist.
	The president said he knew very little regarding Hernandez's case, but he had been told by very good people that Hernandez was targeted unfairly.
	Who were the very good people?
	It turns out it was Roger Stone working in there and lobbying on behalf of this drug lord from Honduras, and he had Trump's ear, you know, the one that wasn't shot, I guess.
	And says, well, the pardon was seen as contradictory for a president who's ostensibly fighting the drug war.
	Stone ran an aggressive campaign for Hernandez, framing him as a casualty of politically motivated legal attacks by the Honduran left and the Biden administration.
	Well, you know, if Biden wants to put him in jail, he must be a good guy.
	There you go.
	That kind of thinking works even on Trump, I guess.
	roger stone did that uh you know roger stone wants to uh and i don't i've made it pretty clear i don't really have any respect for what steve mannan uh does at all And of course, Steve Bannon testified against Roger Stone, and Roger Stone is still not very happy about that, to say the least.
	He just did like a WWE type of thing, because all this politics is really like WWE.
	But he was in the ring with an announcer, and he was saying, yeah, I want to have a bare knuckles cage fight with this guy, and only one of us is going to be walking out.
	That's Roger Stone.
	And it's like, I don't know.
	It really is professional wrestling in so many different ways, isn't it?
	But Trump administration is quietly building plans for what would happen if Maduro were ousted out of Venezuela.
	As I point out in this article from CNN, you know, he went into Iraq.
	It collapsed so quickly.
	They didn't have a plan.
	It's like, okay, we won.
	Now what do we do?
	2003?
	Well, I don't know.
	We just stick around for a while, I guess.
	So what do they do then if they win?
	Do they then march on to Colombia?
	Do they march on to Mexico?
	What do they do?
	Or do they just stop when Exxon gets all the oil?
	I'm not really sure what the end game is here, right?
	So the options for what the U.S. action could look like to fill the power vacuum, stabilize the country if Maduro voluntarily leaves a part of the negotiated departure or is forced into leaving after the U.S. strikes on targets inside Venezuela or other direct action.
	Well, here's what's going to happen.
	It's going to be a long war, asymmetric war, guerrilla war that's going to be happening there.
	They will get some people there in Venezuela that were on their side, and then you'll have a massive number of them as they're running death squads for the CIA against their enemies and things.
	Same thing will happen that happened in Afghanistan.
	And we'll wind up being flooded with Venezuelan immigrants.
	And some of these people who have been trained as killers by the CIA, death squads, will wind up being just like this guy that killed a couple of National Guard people in Washington a week or two ago.
	That's where this is all going to happen.
	We've seen this movie before.
	You know, it's pretty amazing.
	When you look at Hollywood, they've lost the ability to come up with anything original.
	It's all just remakes one way or the other.
	And that's the way it is of politics.
	But one of the reasons they do it for politics is that it works.
	And they can keep doing the same lies over and over again.
	So, Marjorie Taylor Green says that she's going to vote no on the NDAA because of the foreign aid spending that is in it, arguing that the legislation directs U.S. taxpayer dollars towards foreign aid, she said.
	And so that is, you know, she points out the deficit that Trump doesn't want to talk about.
	The deficit over what the government is spending and what it takes in.
	The 38.39 trillion.
	And so she says, why are we spending too much money?
	The NDAA is filled with America's hard-earned tax dollars being used to fund foreign aid and foreign countries' wars.
	These American people are $38 trillion in debt, suffering from a affordability crisis, on the verge of a health care crisis, a credit card debt crisis at all-time high.
	Funding foreign aid and foreign wars in America lasts and is beyond excuse anymore.
	I would love to fund our military, but I refuse to support foreign aid and foreign militaries and foreign wars.
	I'm here and will be voting no.
	Nobody ever votes no for the NDAA.
	They throw the kitchen sink in there to get this thing through.
	Such a sure thing.
	So I'm glad she's doing that.
	Because we look at it, we got money for Taiwan.
	They're authorizing up to a billion dollars for Taiwan Security Cooperation Initiative for next year.
	For Israel, they have put in $500 million for Israeli missile defense, $80 million for U.S.-Israel anti-tunnel cooperation, $50 million for U.S.-Israel anti-drone cooperation.
	And I don't know why they put this in here by this particular production because there's a lot more that is going to Israel.
	It's going several billion dollars going there.
	Baltic Security Initiative.
	Millions of dollars.
	Matter of fact, $175 million of security assistance for Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia.
	Overseas humanitarian disaster and civic aids authorizing $103 million for the Department of Defense humanitarian assistance program for next year.
	All this stuff is there.
	And she has had to go to war against, of course, Mike Johnson, who wants to rubber stamp all this, as all of these speakers in the House do.
	Just an example of the stuff.
	It's not just the foreign stuff.
	It's what's happening here in America as well.
	Technocracy.com.
	We look at DARPA.
	What is that?
	That's attached to the Pentagon, to the defense stuff.
	And what are the things that they're doing?
	Like we talked about yesterday, the horrific projects about mind control that now are no longer simply about drugs and electromagnetic frequencies.
	It's now about brain-computer interfaces and things like that.
	So the brain weapons that target perception, memory, and behavior.
	Where are those coming from?
	Well, it's coming from DARPA and the funding that's in the NDAA.
	This is not national security.
	This does not make our country safer.
	It is a threat to our country.
	This is the state-of-the-art science of social engineering developed through technocracy, says Patrick Wood.
	And actually, this is an article from Daily Mail that he picked up that he prefaced it.
	He said, I've been warning about this for 20 years.
	Convergence science, like the NBIC 2000 and Obama's Brain Initiative.
	He says that was 2013.
	He said, these were pitched as cures for disease.
	In reality, the military and the spook organizations were lurking in the shadows to scoop up mind-altering technologies that could be used to control entire populations.
	And that is true not just of the brain projects and brain-computer interfaces.
	That's true of the internet, and it is especially true of artificial intelligence.
	We've got some comments here.
	Travis, you want to read those?
	Absolutely.
	Let's see.
	We have B.T. Taylor 246 says, if the Constitution can be twisted and perverted like it is now, isn't that just proof it is a worthless document?
	Well, everything can be twisted and perverted.
	That's right.
	It is as Russell Means said.
	He worked with the American Indians Movement.
	And he had a book called Where White Men Fear to Tread.
	And he began it by saying the federal government has broken every treaty that they ever made with the Indians.
	He said, white man, the Constitution is a federal government's treaty with you.
	They've broken every aspect of it.
	What are you going to do about it?
	That's the reality of it.
	And I think it's important to talk about the Constitution because we have to show people need to understand what this government is and how criminal it is.
	Every person in government, and it doesn't matter if it's the federal government, state government, or local government, they all swear to pull the Constitution.
	When they violate the Constitution, when they oppose the Constitution, when they act in utter disregard of it, they have lost their authority.
	That's the key thing.
	And so you've got a lot of situations where that comes up.
	And we need to refuse to obey them.
	We understand that they have a lot of power, but they don't have authority.
	So we pick our battles.
	But we need to understand what crooks they are.
	That's why we talk about the Constitution, because these people are oath-breaking crooks.
	That's the bottom line.
	We have Marky Mark in New Jersey says speed boats are used to either take drugs to or from a ship or drop point.
	They're used for the first or final leg of transporting the drugs.
	A ship or plane takes the drugs most of the way.
	That's right.
	And they said in these hearings when the Admiral was talking about it, he said, I think, what was it?
	I can't remember the country that he said it was going to, but he said, no, it wasn't going to the U.S.
	It was going to this particular...
	Someplace in Europe, I believe.
	I think maybe France.
	Well, that was going to be the ultimate destination, but there was a country there in the Caribbean that it was headed for.
	And then from there, it would be sent to France.
	And so they even admit, A, it's not fentanyl.
	B, it's not coming to America.
	Those ships were not coming to America.
	We've known that all along, and yet you'll still see these cheerleaders out there writing stuff about that and saying, oh, they're going to kill Americans with all that stuff.
	It's crazy.
	It really is.
	Cletus 555 says, can we send you guys Christmas gifts to the P.O. box that you have listed?
	Oh, that's really nice.
	As a matter of fact, somebody we've got on Travis's chair, since Travis was going to be doing the producing today.
	We've got on the chair here a very nice Blanket here.
	They came from the we have a listener who is a supporter on Subscribestar.
	And every year, I think he's close by where the Jimmy Stewart Museum is.
	And every year he would send us a It's Wonderful Life ornament.
	And we really do appreciate those.
	It was really nice.
	And so we draped the carpet over here.
	And not the carpet, the rug, I'm sorry.
	And you can't quite see it, but it's the iconic picture that's kind of on the cover of the movie.
	Can you pull that in, Travis?
	Do you have that where you can show people a little bit of that?
	But anyway, he sent that.
	I want to thank him.
	That was really nice.
	And we do appreciate that.
	We've had several people sent us Christmas gifts.
	We try to acknowledge them.
	Go ahead.
	Yes, thank you very much.
	And I want to make sure, I don't know if I said it, but thank you, Marky, Mark.
	We appreciate the tip as well.
	Yes.
	And Jerry Alitalo says, I always wait until the last moment for Christmas shopping so I can get into fist fights with very large women over the last items on the shelves.
	Well, you know, however you spend your holidays, I suppose.
	Tis the season to give rights and lefts.
	Yeah.
	Fezanovante, 1776.
	The founders' admonition to avoid entangling alliances stems primarily from George Washington's 1796 farewell address, in which he stated, It is our true policy to steer clear of permanent alliances with any portion of the foreign world.
	Thomas Jefferson echoed this sentiment in his 1801 inaugural address, declaring peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And Don't Frag Me, Bro, says, regardless of the evidence that the U.S. government may or may not have, is not an excuse or reason to be judge, jury, and executioner.
	Period.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Everything about this, it's like, you know, so what?
	If you weren't lying to us, which we know you're lying to us, you still don't have the authority to kill these people without any due process.
	Even if you pretend that you have legal justification for your drug war, which you don't have, even if you pretend that these people are bringing this stuff to the U.S., which they're not, even if you pretend it's fentanyl, which now they've admitted it was not, you still don't have the authority to just shoot and kill them.
	And you don't have a war going, and you don't have a conflict going, and you don't have a threat that is going.
	All of it is a lie, as Audi would say with his podcast.
	That's the title of his podcast.
	It's all a lie.
	Everything is a lie, damn it.
	Is the end of the podcast?
	You can find that on Rumble as well.
	We haven't seen Audi for a few days.
	He's probably very busy with everything.
	So I hope he's doing all right.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And now we have Defy Tyrant, 1776.
	Christians love Gabbard, and she's a Hindu communist, LOL.
	Go figure.
	Yeah.
	People just don't seem to be able to suss this stuff out.
	It's amazing to me.
	We live in strange times.
	Real Jason Barker says Venezuela is about sending the message to Mexico that they still need to pay for the wall.
	You know, going back to the Tulsi Gabbard thing, it's not just that she's a Hindu.
	She's a part of that radical Hindu party, that Modi, the prime minister or president, whatever his title is.
	They are engaged in a lot of religious murder against Christians, against Sikhs, you name it.
	And so, and she is very connected politically to Modi and that Hindu political party in India.
	So, yeah, it gets even worse than that.
	Very much so.
	It seems that Christians generally are the only ones that are interested in providing religious liberty to other groups.
	And when you have the truth on your side, you can freely say you can believe what you want.
	The truth always wins.
	If you don't have the truth, it takes a lot of enforcement, a lot of crushing of dissenting ideas.
	Yeah, if you know that you're lying to people, that's when you get into the censorship stuff, right?
	You don't want to have that debate.
	If you feel like the truth is on your side, I think it was Augustine.
	He said the truth doesn't need to be defended.
	It needs to be unleashed.
	Yeah, the truth is like a lion.
	It does not need to be defended.
	It just needs to be unchained.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	And that's why I feel the way that I do so strongly about free speech.
	We just need to let that lion loose because other people are liars.
	And they're not lions.
	They're liars.
	Big difference.
	Mark Young, 12, says when you blame the Constitution instead of those violating it, you're barking up the wrong tree.
	That's right.
	And I've said this many times before.
	I'm sure I'm paraphrasing someone else.
	But the law of the land is always effectively whatever the people will tolerate.
	It does not matter what's on paper.
	Governments immediately and always start working towards their own end goals.
	They don't really care what the law is, just what they can get away with.
	That's right.
	That's right.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break.
	And when we come back, we're going to talk about a very important Supreme Court win.
	It's a win for those of us who want to have freedom of religion.
	And this is something that the Amish were fighting this fight.
	We'll talk about this when we come back.
	We'll be right back.
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	You know, the silver and gold commercial has really aged pretty well.
	It really was on sale a year ago.
	We could see that.
	And there's a lot of people talking about how they're picking and making their justification for why gold should go to 5,000 or even 10,000, several different articles about people making the case for $10,000 gold, looking at historical valuation.
	And I think it is still not a bubble, but it is a response to bubbles that are out there.
	But yeah, people got it last year, they got it on sale.
	They got the silver, since it's at 100% gain this year.
	You got your silver.
	If you got it last year, you got it at 50% off.
	And nearly that good on the gold, which is up like 60% or something.
	Silver just hit an all-time high, going over 60.
	But let's talk about what happened in the Supreme Court.
	This is still very important to a lot of us.
	A group of Amish parents challenged the state of New York's vaccine mandates for schools, ruling that the appeals court must reconsider the case.
	Today's ruling could have implications for other states that don't allow religious exemptions, said attorneys.
	I almost want to call up Alan Dershowitz and say, hey, read this.
	He was the one who was saying, yeah, we could have vaccine mandates.
	We could force you to take this stuff.
	And I mean mandates, you know, not just saying you're going to lose your job.
	I'd send the police out, drag you out of your house and force that into your arm.
	And he goes, and you want to fight me in Supreme Court?
	I'd take you to the Supreme Court and I'd win.
	Don't think so, Dershowitz.
	The U.S. Supreme Court today, yesterday, reversed a lower court decision against a group of Amish parents and school leaders who challenged the state of New York's vaccine mandates for schools.
	They ruled the appeals court must reconsider the case.
	Today's ruling could have implications for other states that don't allow religious exemptions.
	So again, they reversed this lower court case.
	They said they asked the Supreme Court, the people who were filing this, asked the Supreme Court to hear the case, Miller versus McDonald, after the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit dismissed the lawsuit in March.
	They said, we're not even going to listen to it.
	And so typically what would happen is, you know, they would make a ruling and somebody might appeal it from there to the Supreme Court, but they said, we're not even going to consider it.
	We're going to let the lower court decision stand.
	And so these people appealed directly to the Supreme Court.
	Supreme Court said, no, you're going to hear the case.
	Which is kind of strong because it might mean, should mean that they're going to rule in the favor of religious freedom.
	This is huge, said one of the lawyers, because another case, Mahmood versus Taylor, a Supreme Court decision released in June, negated the Second Circuit's legal arguments for denying the Miller plaintiffs the right to a religious exemption.
	All the reasons basically the Second Circuit cited to say they weren't giving relief were overturned in that case, Mahmood versus Taylor.
	So I don't see any way the Second Circuit could uphold the dismissals.
	By vacating the dismissal, the Supreme Court signaled that the Mahmood precedent applies to vaccine cases.
	Mahmood provides incredibly broad protection to parental religious rights infringed by school policies.
	For decades, a problem with religious protection has been a case called Smith, where the Supreme Court said you don't actually get First Amendment protection for the exercise of religion until you can prove that the law is burdening your religion, that that law is either not neutral, in other words, it's targeted just to your particular religion, or it's not generally applicable.
	Since vaccine mandates apply to everyone and aren't issued against a specific religion, it's been challenging for those seeking religious exemptions to obtain protection.
	Lawyers have had to argue that there are certain exceptions to that rule.
	Well, you and I know that if you are forcing somebody to do something that violates their conscience, I don't care if it's a general rule out there for everybody or not.
	To me, these kinds of legal distinctions are like arguing how many angels fit on the head of a pen.
	It doesn't make any difference, and you're missing the bigger picture here.
	So in another case, Wisconsin versus Yoder, Amish families didn't send their kids to high school because it violated their religious beliefs.
	They said even though the high school requirement is also neutral and generally applicable, the parents were still able to get strict scrutiny of that and get constitutional protection.
	So they cited the Wisconsin v. Yoder case as justification for the Second Circuit to grant the New York Amish parents and school leaders relief from the state's vaccine mandate for school entry.
	The Second Circuit disagreed, arguing the Yoder exception applied only to the exact situation detailed in that case.
	The Mahmoud versus Taylor case was about parents being able to opt out out of LGBT-themed elementary school books, elementary school, due to their religious beliefs.
	The Yoder exception basically applies anytime parents have religious objection to a school policy, even if that school policy is neutral and generally applicable.
	That means that the Yoder case can be used as a potent legal argument in vaccination contexts.
	That's what the Supreme Court did today by vacating, by nullifying, the Second Circuit's decision in Miller and ruling that the Second Circuit has to undo its decision in light of these other cases.
	Supreme Court's decision comes amid a litany of lawsuits seeking to restore religious exemption rights.
	So HHS announced last week that it is investigating a complaint that a Midwestern school disregarded a valid religious exemption and failed to get parental consent and vaccinated a student against the wishes of the parents.
	Today we're putting pediatric medical professionals on notice that you cannot sideline parents, said RFK Jr., HHS secretary.
	When providers ignore parental consent, violate exemptions to vaccine mandates, or keep parents in the dark about their children's care, we will act decisively.
	We will use every tool on our disposal to protect families and restore accountability.
	So that's all good news.
	That's really good news.
	Meanwhile, as we heard Alex Newman talk about the COP 30 conference, COP is called Conference of the Parties.
	It's the UN's climate nonsense.
	And they had the 30th one there in Brazil.
	Alex Newman was there, and one of the things that he was talking about was how much pagan religion and phony Christianity was on display there as they worshipped the environment.
	And this article is from American Greatness.
	It said, the Godspin on climate change, inspired by the UN's 30th conference, COP30, wrapped up last month with an offering of the usual suspect socialist solutions for the acolytes to advocate.
	But it wasn't just that.
	And it wasn't just the fact that California is there, Newsom is there, and Brazil telling everybody we're still in with all this stuff.
	But unfortunately, they said there's also substantial Christian presence at the climate conference through organizations like Christian Climate Observers Program, CCOP.
	They should have come up with a different acronym.
	Call them Cooks or something.
	We report, they said, we report back to our constituencies, to our churches, denominations, schools, networks, etc., about what we observe in an attempt to more effectively mobilize everyone for climate action.
	What have they done?
	They have, this is a church organization that, you know, just like the Pope blessing a block of ice and things like that, they have elevated this climate stuff to their own pagan religion.
	And they have replaced Christ with their climate religion.
	A climate observer who is a follower of Jesus or is observing on behalf of a Christian denomination or an NGO has additional responsibilities, they said.
	We believe, namely, that we have to interpret what they observe through a biblical framework, and we have to act prophetically and priestly, they said.
	This person says, heaven help us, Christians witnessing for climate salvation to more effectively mobilize everybody for climate action.
	Compromising with the world for Christ by putting a Jesus spin on highly dubious, imminent collapse of God's bountiful creation is nowhere near preaching the truth of the gospel.
	That's right.
	Christian enthusiasm for secular, disputable solutions.
	This is all about politics and money, folks.
	This has nothing to do with religion.
	I know that they're religious about it, but it has nothing to do with Christ.
	And even performative exercises like the Pope's blessing of a chunk of ice do not advance the good news of Christ.
	It's just more idolatry.
	This time it's done for climate change.
	Other people do it for other issues.
	Which brings us to this strange thing that we saw happening with Mike Huckabee in Israel.
	It's an organization called Friends of Zion.
	And they flew in a thousand pastors into Israel.
	But as we pointed out, this Friends of Zion organism, it's an organism, not an organization.
	It's like a parasite.
	It is a part of the Israeli government.
	And it works with the IDF.
	It works with the tourist ministry.
	works with various organizations to promote Israel.
	And that is its sole purpose.
	And yet, how do they do it?
	They do it by coming to getting Christians to get them to support the Israeli government, the political organization, and making them think that they are somehow supporting an entity that is following God.
	That's not the issue at all.
	It is a secular government that is involved in an unjust war.
	That's it.
	And they're getting a lot of money and a lot of support from people like Mike Huckabee.
	So the title of this op-ed piece here from J.D. Hall is Mike Huckabee's 30 Shekel Summit.
	He said, as a joke, he said, well, Judas got 30 pieces of silver.
	All these guys get is a fruit basket and an airline ticket to go back and forth.
	So again, you know, it's pandering to people and politicians so they can make their career.
	That is the religion of Mike Huckabee.
	The state of Israel was an act of worship, a kind of political tithe paid in the currency of silence, and that spell is breaking.
	The desperate spectacle in Jerusalem where a thousand pastors were flown in to a government-managed narrative chamber and instructed by Ambassador Huckabee to ignite their pulpits on behalf of a foreign state, expose the machinery behind the myth.
	This is not a ministry.
	This was an influence operation.
	It was a culmination of decades of pressure campaigns, propaganda pipelines, curated tours, paid influencers, and the Friends of Zion network that disguises political lobbying as Christian devotion.
	And so it is a propaganda apparatus that's been built by this guy, whose last name is Evans.
	As a matter of fact, this is what happened with this situation, and I'm trying to find it.
	Looks like, oh, I know.
	It's right here.
	Here we go.
	Israeli leaders encouraged the pastors to be bold and express gratitude for their support.
	Stand up and be counted.
	Tell the truth.
	Speak to young people.
	Speak up to be counted.
	I'm counting on you.
	Tell them about Christ?
	No, that's not what I want to talk about.
	That's what our destiny is.
	Tell them about my government and my war.
	This is a fight for civilization.
	We're facing very much a civilizational struggle like we saw in the 30s between Nazism and the free world.
	Today, that Nazism is Islamism in coordination with communism, which today's expression is called woke.
	But it's the same thing.
	Behind the scenes, Shira Mills of the Friends of Zion Museum helped make the summit possible.
	Never been done before.
	This is something very unique, very difficult.
	But here we are.
	From my point of view, it's miraculous.
	The vision going forward, recruiting 10,000 more pastors in the next 36 months.
	Because there's a lot of misinformation out there, a lot of young people that are not for Israel, and they're just getting the wrong information.
	So our whole idea here is to reach the youth of America and around the world and just show the truth.
	With a thousand pastors gathered at such a critical moment for the nation of Israel when anti-Semitism is rising in our nation and globalism.
	It's not anti-Semitism.
	It's anti-Israeli government, anti-Netanyahuism.
	We're sick and tired of the unjust wars and the murder.
	And we're sick and tired of you trying to co-op people who say that they are pastors.
	These people are not pastors.
	They're impostors.
	They're impastors, I guess we could call them.
	But, you know, this is they want to have 10,000 of them.
	That's the amazing thing.
	Not just 1,000.
	This is the guy.
	And I want to say something.
	A decade ago when I started this, I had a vision of establishing an ambassador program to commission impostors to become ambassadors to Israel.
	I wrote the curriculum, and just in the last month, the Prime Minister of Israel has approved the program.
	He's going to sign the diplomas.
	He's going to speak at their graduation.
	And the chief of staff here is going to be flying the pastors to Israel for this ceremony.
	So he's our partner in this new initiative, this ambassador program.
	Synagogue of Satan.
	The people who say that they're Jews and they're not.
	And of course, he also had this to say: that he was born to defend the Jews, he said.
	Born to defend all the Jews.
	Now, you wrote in your newspaper yesterday that this guy converts Jews.
	That's complete BS.
	Somebody did.
	He doesn't want to tell anybody about Christ.
	I rejects Christ.
	He's going to give my life to defend the Jewish people.
	He won't defend Christ or Christians.
	That's all I do.
	I do it full-time.
	And I've got 22 death threats on me right now from crazies for doing it.
	And my son has them on him too.
	And I'll tell you why.
	Why is this going on?
	Well, wait a second.
	Before I get into my thing, I've got to make an apology.
	I want to personally apologize to Natalie Bennett because I used some very harsh statements and some very rude language.
	And that wasn't right.
	Grovel to him.
	That's right.
	The pastors were whined and welcomed.
	Shepherded from a site to site, they were ushered into auditoriums where every camera angle, every applause line had been choreographed long before their charter planes ever lifted off of American soil.
	It was not a pilgrimage, it was a state-engineered influence operation.
	The scent of propaganda clung to the proceedings like incense burning in the wrong temple.
	That's who this guy is.
	Then came Mike Huckabee, who carries himself less like an emissary of America and more like a press secretary, hired to read the cue cards from the Knesset steps.
	He attacked critics.
	He chastised those who dare to question Israeli military actions.
	He rebuked those who refused to treat the foreign policy of an unbelieving nation as a sacrament.
	And these pastors, I'll call them impostors, cheered.
	They swallowed a narrative that's been prepared for them with the same meticulous care that goes into polishing state propaganda for foreign consumption.
	What actually occurred in Jerusalem was the culmination of a coordinated state-to-church influence pipeline that's been quietly expanding for years.
	They've got a thousand of them this time.
	They want to get 10,000 the next time.
	The Friends of Zion complex sits at the center of that pipeline, built in partnership with the Ministry of Jerusalem and Heritage, promoted by the Ministry of Tourism, and working in cooperation with the Israeli Defense Forces.
	The Israeli government describes the Friends of Zion as a quote strategic asset for public diplomacy, also known as state propaganda.
	Friends of Zion serve as the go-between between Netanyahu's government and the little old ladies in the Bible Belt, whose both tax and tithe dollars support Israel's war.
	Huckabee's speech was only visible, was the only visible surface of the deep state operation which Israel used an American-funded Christian institution as a turnkey propaganda platform for shaping the perceptions of America's evangelical voting bloc.
	The fingerprints of state coordination were visible everywhere.
	Israeli officials control the itinerary, the messaging, the emotional pacing, even the storyboards of suffering that were presented to the visitors.
	The pastors, after getting generous gift baskets resembling those given at a Hollywood awards show, were escorted through southern communities, shown military-vetted presentations, and fed testimonies selected by government liaisons trained in information warfare.
	Meanwhile, the realities that contradict the propaganda were systematically hidden.
	No one showed them the charred remains of the Baptist and Orthodox churches in Gaza.
	No one explained that Israel continues to deny the right of return to ethnic Jews who believe in Jesus.
	That's how much they hate Christ.
	No one disclosed the missionary visas are routinely denied and that evangelistic literature is confiscated at the border, or that arrests for proselytizing spike whenever political pressure mounts.
	What they received was not revelation, but choreography.
	It was not a pilgrimage, but it was a simulation.
	It was crafted by a state apparatus that has learned how to turn Christian goodwill into geopolitical leverage.
	Anyone with eyes to see understood the message that Israel is losing its grip on evangelical imagination.
	Polls inside the U.S. have tracked a steep decline in automatic evangelical support for Israel, especially among younger believers.
	You have to look at the fundamental issues.
	The moral issues are very clear.
	It's what we use to formulate the ideas of an unjust war.
	And, you know, don't overturn that with your ideas about what you think prophecy should look like.
	It is a completely backwards way of understanding the Bible.
	This public diplomacy has been weaponized against the conscience of the church.
	And I think their desperation to censor dissent, their desperation to censor even ethnic Jews who've accepted Christ as Messiah.
	I think that speaks more loudly than anything that could be said.
	At the center of their weapon sits the Friends of Zion and that guy, Evans, who obviously is a disbeliever.
	If he believed Christ, he would want to, and if he really liked Jews, and if he believed Christ, he would not have said what he had to say.
	Friends of Zion is the branding arm of the Israeli government.
	So then Huckabee.
	I didn't realize this.
	I didn't know Huckabee's background.
	But during the 1980s, writes J.D. Hall, when the Southern Baptist Convention was locked in its defining struggle over the inerrancy of scripture, Huckabee did not stand with the conservatives who fought to reclaim the seminaries and the institutions from theological drift.
	Huckabee was elected in Arkansas as the preferred candidate of the moderates, the faction that sought compromise rather than confrontation and resisted the efforts to restore biblical authority within the denomination, while others spent years battling for doctrinal fidelity, battling for what the Bible actually says.
	Against administrators and professors who denied the very foundations of the faith, Huckabee made his name as conciliator who avoided the hard fights, a politician.
	He never mustered the kind of ferocity when the Bible itself was on trial.
	Yet in Jerusalem, he roared like a zealot on behalf of a foreign government.
	The man who once declined to risk capital for scripture now spent his capital defending a modern state that rejects the Messiah, rejects Christian evangelism, and treats belief in Jesus as grounds for legal exclusion.
	I often say to people here in Israel, and I say it to people in the U.S., the partnership we have is an important one for Israel, but it is equally important for the United States.
	And it is part of the message that I bring as an ambassador from the U.S., but also an ambassador of the truth back to the U.S., that every partnership relationship we have with Israel is beneficial many times over to the people of America, and it's something most americans do not understand but medical technology yeah you're right I don't understand it.
	And you don't understand the Bible either.
	This guy begins again with a misquoting of Genesis.
	No wonder that he didn't care about biblical inerrancy.
	And just like Ted Cruz, they say God blesses those who bless Israel and curses those who bless, curses those who curse Israel.
	It doesn't say that.
	It doesn't say that.
	It says those who bless and curse you, the, right?
	Talking to Abraham.
	And when it says that through you, all nations will be blessed, it's talking about Christ.
	It's not talking about a political entity.
	And it's not talking about an ethnic group.
	And Paul made that abundantly clear.
	He said, when it's talking about seed, it says it's singular, not plural.
	It's not talking about an ethnic group of people.
	It's talking about the Messiah, who would be a blessing to all nations.
	And they skip over that.
	There's absolutely no surprise that Huckabee would not be in the fight for biblical inerrancy because people like him and Ted Cruz, who are nothing but grifting politicians who are trying to use people who are Christians for their own purposes, they constantly misquote that.
	So it's absolutely no surprise that he would do that.
	Well, we are out of time and we have our guest, Dr. Shiva, is ready to come on and we want to talk to him about his latest political campaign because there's other things involved in his political campaigns.
	He uses those to organize people and to start redirecting them into things that they can do productively rather than trying to push on a rope.
	So we're going to take a quick break and we're going to connect with Dr. Shiva and I'm going to get something to drink here because I'm getting, anyway, we're going to do that.
	We'll be right back, folks.
	Stay with us.
	Let's see.
	Let me grab something here.
	plate.
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	You're listening to the David Knight Show.
	All right, and joining us now is Dr. Shiva and Dr. Shiva Ayadure, and he is running for Senate as an independent, right?
	That's that's a good thing.
	The website is ShivaForsenate.com.
	Thank you for joining us, Dr. Shiva.
	Good.
	How are you doing, David?
	Doing good.
	Tell us a little bit about what you're doing here, what your goals are.
	Yeah, so I think, David, people know that fundamentally, those in power give people essentially only two options on their battleground and how to participate in politics, right?
	These are the two promoted options, which is you run for office in either the Republican or Democratic Party.
	take a left or right position, or you file lawsuits.
	You become a lawyer.
	So if you think about it, if you wake up at some point in your life and you say, you know, I see injustice in the world and I want to change it, they give you these two vehicles, legalism, become a lawyer, file lawsuits, or electoralism, right?
	Run for office.
	Now, the reality is if you just take those two positions, you invariably get either demoralized or you get co-opted or you compromise.
	And they know this because the judges, the courts, the legal systems, the electoral process is all controlled by what I call the swarm.
	And if people want to understand what that is, they can go to shattertheswarm.com.
	And I describe that in a very scientific way, the structures of power.
	Okay.
	But what they do not teach, David, anymore, or they rarely even talk about it, is that actual changes come through bottoms-up political movements of everyday people organizing locally and building self-organizing systems, mass movements.
	That's right.
	And this is the fundamental way any changes come.
	So that's at the core.
	So if you have a movement at the core, and then you go participate in the electoralism or the legalism process as a vehicle for a, at minimum, building the movement, and a potential you may actually win some legal cases and participate much more robustly in the electoral process.
	So a priori, you have to have a movement.
	Without that, you're going to get compromised.
	Who was the, I think it's somebody anthropologist.
	I can't remember the name said something like, uh, you know, small dedicated group of people is the only thing that's ever changed.
	Well, I'm paraphrasing, uh, Maybe you know that quote.
	Well, yeah, well, it's a dedicated group of people who have, in any field, politics, science, medicine, who have really taken the time to apply the scientific method to understand how nature operates.
	And then with that understanding, then you go do innovation, then you bring something to humanity.
	So example, since the time immemorial, people thought human beings could not fly, right?
	Then you had people understand Bernoulli's principle.
	And then you had the creation of airplanes, which came from that understanding.
	Or people never thought we would have lights.
	You know, we'd always live in darkness.
	You had Maxwell's laws, these principles.
	Then people created all these gadgets that, you know, we have light.
	We don't have darkness.
	So when it comes to politics, there's been a view that there will always be the oligarchs and the rest of us have to suffer, right?
	There'll always be the 0.01%.
	And just like there will be darkness, only birds can fly, you know, just deal with it.
	Okay?
	And then as a part of that, you were just talking earlier about Christian, you know, the fake Christians.
	In every religion, be it Hinduism, Islam, Christianity, the corrupt owners of these religions take these religions and they create a political ideologies to support the suppression of the masses of people by the few.
	In Hinduism, they called it karma, the Brahmins, right?
	Christian evangelism now supports another political ideology called Zionism, right?
	Nazism.
	But the notion of rationalizing that there's no way out of this, that you simply have to accept the way things are.
	And if you do want to change it, run for politics, raise money, be Republican or Democrat.
	You're going to have to compromise.
	become a lawyer where you're doing deal making.
	You never really present in court anymore.
	So we have sort of shattered both of those, David.
	And it's been a long arc of a lot of hard work.
	You know, my personal journey.
	But also, we've built a global movement.
	And it's taken a lot of hard work.
	It's something that should have been done several generations ago.
	But those in power brainwash people to think Bernie Sanders was going to take care of it.
	Or Donald Trump was going to take care of it on the right.
	That's right.
	Or Tucker Carlson, who griffs all day long, who was a CIA agent.
	Or Nick Fuentes.
	Two feds, by the way, having interviews with each other, saying they're not feds.
	The biggest psyop.
	So quite fascinating.
	So everything they do, and I want people to really, if there's one thing you get from this conversation that I want to share, is that everything that the swarm does, the elites do, is to disempower you from even the thought, an iota of the thought, that we must build bottoms-up movements.
	That's right.
	That's it.
	And if you understand that, you will understand what we're doing, what my life has been about, what our movement's about.
	You know, our movement is truth, freedom, health.
	You can go to truthfromhealth.com.
	And we educate people on history.
	We educate people on engineering system science.
	So just like Bernoulli's principle or Maxwell's laws, I've uncovered these natural laws, David, that come from engineering science that show the dynamics of nine principles, how every system in the universe operates.
	And the cool thing is I can teach this to anyone.
	You don't have to go to MIT.
	But with that understanding, you get this very deep view of the dynamics of all systems.
	And you can apply it to political systems.
	So truth, freedom, health, there's no and there or dashes or emphasizing one or the other.
	They are three principles.
	The movement of information and matter and energy freely.
	That's freedom.
	The conversion of ideas to find what is real.
	That's truth.
	The conversion process.
	And the vessel, the structural process which contains truth and freedom, that's your health, economic health, your physical health, etc.
	Now, the principles of movement, conversion, and structure appear in everything.
	I could do a whole lecture.
	I don't want to bore you guys on that.
	But we have founded a movement on scientific principles.
	So you can't just do science.
	You can't just be an activist fighting for freedom.
	You can't just take care of your health.
	You have to do all of it.
	So you have seen during COVID, you had all these yoga people and wellness people who talked about health, but they were all supporting masks and getting vaccinated.
	Complete dysfunction.
	Then you have people who talked about freedom.
	But the same people who talked about freedom were supporting lockdowns.
	You see?
	And those people who talked about science, truth, were making claims that the only way to get out of this was you had to take the mRNA vaccine and you had to put people on respirators.
	I was the only first one, the early one, who said, gave a protocol as a scientist that the focus is the immune system.
	So when you take the systems approach, you see things as they are.
	This is why our movement and my work was always at the forefront.
	In 2020, we were the first ones to call out COVID.
	We were the first ones to expose the depths of election integrity.
	It was like PhD-level stuff we did.
	And we were the first ones in our historic lawsuit to expose the fact that government has an unholy alliance in social media companies.
	We won our preliminary injunction, our lawsuit.
	We exposed the hypocrisy of people like Elon Musk, where government ends and where Elon Musk begins, nobody knows.
	So our movement has grown now because we have leaders all over the world.
	We ran in 2017, 18, and we had a great meme, if you remember it.
	I may have it up here, which says, only the real Indian can defeat the fake Indian.
	And it was a picture of me and Elizabeth Warren.
	Even though it was only seven or 10 of us, we ended up getting about 150,000 votes in Massachusetts.
	And we were the ones who forced Elizabeth Warren to take the DNA test.
	Not Trump, not Donald Trump Jr., but it was, we had these signs, David, that went viral.
	We had magnet signs.
	I think thousands of them.
	I think I can show you a picture of them, if it's okay.
	Sure.
	Just to remind people of sort of the, you know, there is a creativity to politics, and it's really an opportunity where real art can thrive, you know?
	You know, where, so if I can share my screen, I think I can.
	I think I need to send a request.
	But anyway, the hatred against Elizabeth Warren was not a hatred against her individually, David.
	It was the fact that she represented a fake Indian, all these fake politicians who say one thing and do another.
	In Elizabeth Warren's case, it was very much more direct because she said she was a Native American and was not.
	And because of that, she got jobs, a cozy tenured professorship at Harvard.
	And mind you, a professor at Harvard is like the Brahmin of ancient India.
	They're the ones who control ideas.
	They make $3 to $5 million a year.
	They get the best health care.
	They get free gym memberships.
	Their kids get to go to school for free.
	And so it's quite hypocritical.
	But our slogan with my picture with Elizabeth Warren in a headdress, by the way, you could put Donald Trump in the same headdress.
	You could put Elon Musk in the same headdress, Bernie Sanders.
	But at the depth of the subconscious, we were hitting something deep that these people don't work.
	That's right.
	And you know what?
	When she took that test, that really did hit home.
	I remember Babylon B had a joke about it.
	They said, well, Hillary Clinton did a test, and she found out she had more lizard, alien lizard DNA than Elizabeth Warren did.
	I repeated that joke, and because of that, I had the Daily Beast try to get me thrown off of Twitter because I repeated the joke about that.
	They absolutely are humorless.
	It's funny how humorless they are.
	When these came out, David, they tried to tell me to take the signs off my bus.
	It went into a federal lawsuit and I ended up winning it.
	Okay, the city of Cambridge.
	But the reason I bring this up, so that was 2017 and 18.
	That was our first foray into electoral politics.
	You know, I spent 40 years of my life building movements.
	But the reason we decided to do that was we obviously knew that we had a very low chance of winning because the Democrats and Republicans controlled it.
	But we injected ourselves and it was a very successful work because we forced her to take the DNA test.
	We got on all these social media and platforms, but we built this broad understanding, whether people knew it or not, about the hypocrisy of all these guys.
	So that was the first phase.
	Phase two was we ran in 2020 as a Republican.
	Because everyone said, oh, you were against Pocahontas.
	Why don't you run as a Republican?
	Because they thought I must be a Republican.
	So we did.
	We gave the Republican Party in Massachusetts an opportunity to have someone like me, four degrees from MIT, accomplish seven companies who came from a bottom, built myself up.
	But the establishment Republican Party in Massachusetts, which always works with the Democrats, had no interest in supporting me.
	That's right.
	Nonetheless, we raised close to $2 million in 2020, all $1, $5, $20 predominantly donations.
	And we had 3,000 volunteers.
	We had 25,000 lawn signs up, 10,000 bumper stickers.
	It was quite extraordinary.
	Every part of Massachusetts.
	You could not leave Massachusetts without seeing a Dr. Shiva billboard on the major highways, etc.
	You know, even here in Tennessee, when you ran for president, there were Shiva signs around here.
	We saw quite a few of them.
	Exactly.
	So that shows, David, not only the strength of people's affection towards our ideas, but the fact that we have people on the ground all over the country.
	That's right.
	For that matter now, all over the world.
	That's right.
	And I like that, what you've done to empower people and to get them to understand that it really is from the bottom up.
	And, you know, Trump understands that.
	And the establishment understands that.
	It's one of the reasons why Trump is so adamant that they're going to shut down any state or local regulation of AI.
	It's only going to be one rule to rule us all, right?
	And that's going to come from him.
	And it's going to come from Washington.
	They're very afraid that when people see a problem and they do see a problem, they think most people don't buy into the climate change thing, but they do buy into the changes that AI could bring upon us.
	And they don't like it.
	They don't like the police-state surveillance.
	Trump does.
	And so he wants to shut that down, anybody pushing back against it, because that's where the real power is.
	The real power is from the bottom up.
	Yeah, and so if you look at the movements of the late 1800s, early 1900s in the United States, there was these very bottoms-up organic workers' movements, which they try to relabel as red-scare communist.
	You see?
	So that's what McCarthyism did, right?
	These weren't movements controlled by Russia.
	They were organic American working-class movements.
	And they're the reason America actually did become great during 1970 to, I'm sorry, 1900s to 1970.
	As GDP grew, everyone's wages grew because the elites were afraid that working class Americans would take to the streets.
	In fact, during that period, David, there were 11,000 strikes, close to 200 million people.
	Ordinary people wouldn't take BS, right?
	They would organize.
	And these were organic movements.
	We need to reclaim that.
	We've got to reclaim that because they're going to do it to us.
	The wealth transfer that's going on now is incredible.
	So the right-wing McCarthyites branded those movements as communist, hijacked the fact that four American workers were hanged in the 1800s fighting for the eight-hour workday.
	And that's why the international working class labeled that May Day.
	It wasn't a communist holiday.
	So they essentially created this false narrative.
	So between 1950 to 70, the Democrats like Bernie Sanders and other left trade union top-down people took over the unions, and Wall Street was given to the right-wing.
	So by 1970, there is really no more fight anymore.
	They destroyed these bottoms-up workers' movements.
	And between 1970 till today, if you read the RAND report that came out a couple years ago, as GDP has grown, the wages of the first and second income quartile of hard-working Americans has gone down.
	And if you add it all up, if you do the calculus on it, between 1970 till today, it adds up to $47 trillion of wealth has moved to Trump and Jared Kushner and Elon Musk, et cetera.
	But here's the interesting thing, David.
	The left will do half truths against the right, and the right will do half truths against the left.
	That's right.
	Or they'll say, what about the fact that these guys did what you're accusing me of doing, you know, and so I get a pass to do it now.
	They set precedents for each other, right?
	It's like, but what about him?
	He did this crime, so I get to do the same crime, you know?
	Right.
	So, so they have, and so anything that they do that seems truthful is not truthful.
	It's basically to split the middle, which the middle works, which means the middle-class working people actually work.
	Bernie Sanders has never worked.
	Donald Trump has never really worked.
	Fucker, excuse me, Tucker Carlson has never really worked.
	Okay?
	And if you look at these characters, Robert Kennedy Jr., as I call him, Booby Kennedy, has never worked.
	AOC has never worked.
	So on the left and the right, you have these leaders who essentially had the birth lottery given to them.
	Even this guy, Mamdani, his mother is a very, very famous Hollywood director.
	A lot of people don't know this.
	Mira Naier.
	And she directed her son.
	This was not something he organically came up.
	Central casting.
	Right.
	So the left and the right have spent a lot of effort in manipulating people to think that they are actually in some fight.
	So this image that I recently developed, I don't know if you know, I have a degree in graphic design, David.
	So this image sort of captures our meme for 2026 in my U.S. Senate race.
	I don't know if you can see it.
	Yeah, yeah.
	The middle works.
	So yeah, even the fist, which was a left-wing, quote-unquote theme, Trump started using the fist, if you noticed.
	So we're saying, let's give the middle.
	And what do we mean by this?
	And, you know, this came to me actually in a dream on how to structure this, but it takes an effort to work on these kinds of graphics, you know?
	But we say the middle works, which means we work for a living.
	Yeah.
	And the middle must rise.
	So we have all these workers rising up through the middle finger.
	On the left, you have the donkey fearing people rising, AOC, Mamdani, and Bernie, which are sort of the characters, the cast of characters who represent the left.
	And over, you have, I like to call him Ephra Carlson, but I know in respect to your show, I won't do that.
	And you have Booby Kennedy, and you have Trump and the elephant.
	Both the donkey and the elephant are fearful if someone like me, David, who actually comes from below, right?
	That actually has built a movement, a brand even.
	I mean, no one gave me Dr. Shiva as a brand.
	See, this is the other thing.
	They don't want independent people getting limelight or getting fame because they have to own even that.
	So when I exposed all this stuff in 2020, the backdoor portal to Twitter, the COVID stuff, the election integrity, they created their own cast of characters two years later to literally plagiarize my material.
	And they still do it today because they cannot give independence the limelight because they represent the people.
	So our view is the middle is rising.
	We must shatter the swarm.
	And what we are doing, David, is this meme is a very powerful meme because it goes to working people and saying, look, do you want to get over your own dysfunction?
	That's what our campaign is going to do.
	It's not about forget them.
	We know what they're doing.
	But when you have someone like me running, why aren't you getting off your butt and going to your neighbors and saying, you got to vote for Dr. Shiva?
	Because it's not like they don't have a candidate anymore.
	Our campaign, I'm going to run, David, but I'm not going to run.
	Meaning, the emphasis I'm going to do is someone, and we have a lot of people say, oh, Dr. Shiva, you were great.
	Thank you so much for doing those videos.
	Great.
	Now, what are you going to do?
	That's right.
	Don't just say you like my videos.
	There's 4,000 of them.
	But are you going to go tell your neighbors to pledge their vote for me right now?
	So people go to ShivanumeralForceSenate.com.
	You'll see what we've done, David.
	People can go right now and pledge their vote for me.
	Now.
	We're not waiting to next year.
	So if you're listening and you have friends in Massachusetts, tell them to go pledge their vote.
	But not only that, tell them to go talk to their neighbors and their family and their friends.
	Everyone needs to be a microactivist.
	That's right.
	The old, even me going out, running, I mean, we did this, right?
	We drove all around Massachusetts on our bus.
	We put up all these signs.
	It still was a set of us.
	The only way we working people can win is if it's a self-organizing system, which is a principle of system science.
	If individuals on the node all say, hey, I like this guy, Dr. Shiva.
	I know he's proven.
	It's not, my resume speaks for itself, David.
	You look at all these politicians.
	Let's look at if they have ever in their life solved a problem.
	We had Trump who bankrupted six casinos.
	Exactly.
	So ultimate low achiever.
	He's even sued the people who wrote a book about him who said that lucky loser.
	They've got a slot machine on the cover.
	Well, I think one of his professors that one of his professors were and said he was the dumbest student he ever had.
	So what you're looking at is, and booby effing Kennedy, by the way, the way he applied to Harvard was just put his name, the hubris.
	And he gets in.
	His thesis is completely written by his roommate who couldn't get girls.
	So the trade was he would get him girls and he wrote his thesis.
	So these people do not work.
	And you have to have a significant amount of hatred and anger at them.
	But the more important thing, David, is what we want to educate people is, why are you in this, why are you letting the left and the right divide us?
	And this is a personal dysfunction people need to do reflection on.
	And so my job as an educator, as a, you know, I think a penultimate candidate for Senate is I'm already, I've worked to get here.
	So people now, working people, need to say, wait a minute, this is one of us.
	Why do I vote for the left or right?
	They need to do their own reflection.
	And it's a one degree shift that needs to take place.
	Because you have these people.
	You have these people who the double thing that they're able to engage in is just amazing.
	They absolutely hate X or Y. Let's say they hate the vaccine, right?
	But they love the father of the vaccine.
	It's like, how can you not see this?
	I understand when it is sold to them by the people who make money by appeasing these people and by telling the group what they want to hear.
	But the group think is absolutely killing us.
	Well, the reason it's occurring, that's why this graphic is nice, David, because they have it down to a science.
	It's a psychological operation science.
	So Bernie Sanders or Mamdani or AOC will attack these people as quote-unquote Zionists, okay?
	Or they will attack them and say, you guys are Nepo babies, right?
	Which is true.
	And these guys on the right, you know, Trump will say Bernie and all these people just want free stuff, which is also true.
	Okay?
	So the reality is, Mamdani is not talking about like a workers state where working people seize a means of power.
	He's talking about top-down socialism, state capitalism.
	No different than what Trump wants, what he's doing with Nvidia.
	That's why Trump and Mamdani meeting, I did a little blog post on this, and being chums in some sense, each supporting each other, reveals the fact that the economic conditions in the United States where working people have been devastated.
	So, what the elites are doing is that entire scene in the White House was telling working people on the left and the right, don't worry, we have it under control.
	Trump and Mamdani are meeting together.
	They're all on the same team.
	You don't have to do anything.
	They'll take care of it.
	And this is why the middle is so important.
	The middle must rise up.
	And from a philosophical, spiritual, whatever you want to talk about it, our 2026 campaign for U.S. Senate is going to be a very different campaign.
	We're going to ask the individual, oh, you support me, but what are you going to do?
	What are you going to do?
	And we're going to go to all these working people and say, look, you work for a living.
	They don't.
	Why do you give all your self-respect to them?
	And I think this is, if you study the psychology of abusive relationships, this is what happens.
	The abuser somehow brainwashes the abuse victim to keep coming back to them.
	You see, in all sorts of, and so it's basically a mass abuser-abuse-victim relationship.
	That's what we're fundamentally dealing with.
	And the way they're able to get away with it, David, as this meme reflects, is one group says half-truths against the other, and the other group says half-truths against the other.
	So people are literally split.
	So Trump, the elites, the swarm created Trump because they needed the white working class to have hope.
	Because the same white working class, at least 60% of them, who voted for Trump had voted for Obama.
	And his thing was hope.
	Right?
	So they have this down to a theatrical physics.
	That's right.
	Yeah, we're supposed to believe that Trump is a blue-collar billionaire.
	Yeah, or Tucker Carlson, who wanted to be in the CIA, is somehow come to some holy revelation that he's fighting demons, as he says, in his sleep, and now he wants to reveal truth.
	Well, the revelation of truth is not sufficient to change because now every grifter is exposing truth.
	Quote-unquote truth.
	But none of them will ever, ever, when it comes to talking about election integrity, when I did all the breakthrough work, will ever mention my name.
	When we were the ones to expose a backdoor portal to Twitter, except a few people like yourself and maybe Clayton Morris will say, wait a minute, he's the one who did the work.
	But they literally steal our truth that we expose because they don't want the limelight coming to working people like myself who do the hard work.
	And this is what people need to understand.
	They do this consistently.
	Credit.
	They'll diminish you for saying, hey, I did that work.
	Oh, why do you want credit, David?
	Why do you want, but everything they do is about getting credit.
	The Trump is a brand.
	The Kennedys are a brand.
	And they spend billions of dollars creating their brand equity.
	Well, I created the Dr. Shiva, or Truth Freedom Health brand, bottoms up.
	And that really pisses them off, David, because we understood their dynamics.
	And that's why in 2026, our campaign in Massachusetts, and we're going to win this campaign because we're going to win it, because the previous campaigns were about exposing truth.
	But this time, we're going to win this campaign.
	You know, 96% of the youth under the age of 26 in Massachusetts are independents now.
	65% of people under the age of 55 are independents now in Massachusetts.
	The work that we did, a lot of people moved to becoming independent.
	There's only 9% Republicans and 35% Democrats.
	So the majority is independents.
	Yeah.
	And they don't have a voice.
	So that's why the left and right create this fake dialectic to split the middle.
	And so I think the great thing with our campaign is we're going down to the heart, the root cause of the issue.
	It's not them.
	It's us, David.
	Why is it we remain abusive victims?
	Why do we listen to Tucker Carlson, the idiot, got $25 million working for Fox, and suddenly he's become a truth teller.
	He didn't know anything about Israel for 40, 50 years of his life.
	Suddenly, you know?
	Or 9-11, you know?
	He shut down people when they wanted to show videos of what was happening in 9-11, you know, and now I hear he's going to do some kind of a 9-11 documentary and reinvent himself.
	Right.
	All he said was, hey, if you talk about building seven, they'll fire you.
	So I won't talk about it.
	So who's controlling?
	So the age of disclosure, this movie about UFOs, right, with Marco Rubio.
	I mean, anything Marco Rubio is involved with is a joke.
	Okay.
	The guy is a joke.
	But anyway, they have gotten very clever with these cast of characters.
	And that is why our campaign is going to take all the learnings, all the work we've done, and focus on the singular point.
	Do you want to save yourself?
	Period.
	To the individual.
	And why do you give up your self-respect to these fools who say one thing and do another?
	They're all fake Indians.
	That's right.
	Right?
	Well, I think it's really coming, it's coming to a head now because I don't know if you are familiar with the work of Strauss and how in the fourth turning, but I really do believe the research they had has a lot of validity in it, that we have the cyclical thing.
	And you can see the institutions and the corruption that is there.
	You see the economic issues and the fact that all these different countries are trying to find war wherever they can get it to distract the people at home because they know that they're at war with the people at home.
	So let's get them focused on something over here where we can all unite and they can cheer and get behind us.
	But, you know, they're talking about how there was an MIT study saying they could replace, and I don't know if it's true or not, they could replace a little over 12% of the workforce right now with AI.
	If they do that.
	25 million people, yes.
	Yeah, if they do that, that's going to be instant depression.
	You know, that was most of the depression, we had about a 14-15% unemployment rate.
	They could do that just like, you know, with a drop of a hat if they wanted to.
	And it doesn't matter if the AI really works all that well.
	They could still fire you.
	So people are looking at this.
	And when Huang of NVIDIA went to DC, people were talking to him.
	He says, yeah, everybody says it's going to take your job.
	No, you're going to work harder.
	You're going to have a job and you're going to work harder.
	So I guess we can go back, forget about the eight-hour day, right?
	That's what these guys would like to do, I guess, is take us back.
	I think what's going to happen, well, what's going to happen, David, I don't know if you know, I have the three earliest patents in text-based AI from 1993 that I used for a company.
	And it's interesting, right when those patents expired, a few months later is when ChatGPT came.
	Okay.
	But anyway, so I know a little bit, I was in this field for 20 years.
	So when you look at AI, you know, as a senator, for example, one of the laws that people should think about is this.
	You have private companies over here creating technologies to suck human knowledge and instantiate it into a machine.
	Okay?
	Most of the AI requires what's called supervised learning.
	So you have to give it information.
	So they have people in Africa watching images and deciding what kind of image it is.
	And eventually those people won't be needed.
	Labeling.
	So it's called the training set.
	So, the interesting question, and I think only someone like me could even bring this up, because I understand the bridge between technology, politics, and engineering is: so, if you are a worker doing some task, okay, let's say a radiologist, and a machine, which is a private company, is watching your diagnosis.
	It's getting all that information, and it's going into this private company's database.
	Eventually, the radiologist will not be needed.
	Okay, the radiologist was hired, you know, X salary per hour.
	He was not given any, he will never be given any royalty or IP for his knowledge that was taken from his brain.
	Right.
	So, I, for example, first of all, educate people like I'm doing right now, but more importantly, if knowledge is taken from a human being and put into a private company, no compensation is made, you could argue that the private company owns a royalty stream to those individuals.
	For that matter, to all of us.
	Yeah.
	You know, when Google is looking at all of our searches, because a few of them are monopolies, we are not, as humans, being compensated for the knowledge that they're taking from us.
	Now, you could say to Google, if you have a web page, I don't want my web page indexed, which means you'll never show up.
	So, they force you to give your knowledge to them, and there's no consideration given to you for exchange of this value.
	So, there's a fundamental issue here, and this is happening in the arts, right?
	Oh, yeah, but most of these, you know, besides the A-list actors, we're also selling their rights by them, they'll get compensated.
	The majority of us who are working today, there is no fundamental structure to compensate you for the fact that random private companies funded by Silicon Valley are vacuuming up your brain, and you're not going to be compensated for that.
	That's right.
	So, this is there has to be some compensatory relief for that because it was your knowledge that trained these systems.
	You know, when I used to, I created a technology years ago for automatically reading an email, separate from the invention of email, analyzing it, and routing it.
	So, we were actually used to watch the call center reps, how they treated an email and our systems would learn.
	So, instead of doing six emails per hour, our call center representative could do 40 emails.
	Okay, so AI can be used as a significant adjunct to obviously creating more productivity.
	But the elites don't care about that.
	They're not going to say, okay, we have 100 workers, we're going to put in AI.
	And then we're going to basically, the ideal model would be you compensate people fairly, but maybe they don't have to work four days a week.
	Or five days a week, maybe they work three days a week because their knowledge was used to train those systems.
	Instead, what they'll do is fire 80% of the workforce and have the remaining 20% working three times more.
	That's right.
	You see?
	Yeah.
	So, that's kind of what Disney did when they brought in the H-1B visa people.
	They said, well, you know, we'll give you a little bit more severance pay if you train replacement.
	And that's really what is happening across the board with artificial intelligence, as you pointed out.
	Yeah, I did a podcast years and years ago explaining: look, AI is not machine AI.
	AI existed the instant that Henry Ford created the manufacturing line.
	Okay, that was AI.
	He took a very complex process of creating a car, he made it into an individual task-based process, and then he put these carbon-based beings along that manufacturer.
	Some of them just screwed on a bolt, others put on a windshield wiper.
	That was AI because you took human creative intelligence and localized it into doing one task.
	Now, if you remove the carbon-based being and you put a silicon-based being, that's still AI.
	You see what I'm saying?
	So people need to understand that from the aspect of productivity, which has been explosively growing.
	You know, capitalism has done that because the goal of capitalism is to maximize profit.
	Labor is the biggest expense.
	in that formula.
	So you're trying to reduce labor, which you're trying to increase productivity.
	But the promise of that was not that you would lay off everyone, right?
	As productivity increased, the mass of human workers should be able to work less hours.
	Instead, the model that came from crony capitalism was you lay off 80% of the people, and then 20% are working harder.
	And that's what's going to happen with AI.
	So if you learn how to use AI well, you don't need a certain set of low-level workers.
	But whenever new technologies come, David, the legislators in Congress, who are basically dumb as doorknobs, will always get manipulated, in this case, by Silicon Valley.
	So for example, I know this personally, you know, when I invented email back in 78, there were no laws to patent software because the idiots in Congress thought software was a movie script.
	You were writing something.
	So the problem is when you have idiots who don't create, who are in the political process, they can get manipulated by others.
	It was only 1994 could you patent software.
	In 1980, the Computer Software Act allowed you to use copyright law to protect software, which is what I did.
	But the point is, when you have morons who have never created anything, they're very different than the founders.
	They actually architect.
	So when you are with your hands doing something, you are much more fair in the laws that you want to create and you're thinking into the future.
	I mean, the founders were thinking 200, 300 years ahead because they were creators.
	But if you look at the resume of 99% of the people in Congress or Senate, and everyone should do this, this is to working people listening.
	Why are you electing these idiots?
	Ask yourself, when they say, I will solve this problem, well, have you ever solved the problem?
	Show me one problem you solve.
	I will fix this.
	Have they ever fixed anything?
	I will create this.
	Have they ever created anything?
	And I think it's time people take this approach.
	And the fact that people don't take that approach, David, again, it comes down to a dysfunction among the broad mass of people who have been manipulated to think Tucker Carlson making his grimaces and faces has some authority to talk about anything.
	I mean, he hasn't earned that right.
	I'm sorry.
	You didn't put in the freaking time.
	Or Bernie Sanders talking about how he cares about working people.
	You've never worked a day in your life.
	So I think it's really important that working people derive some self-respect for themselves.
	And it's like the slaves have forgotten they're the ones who are doing all the work.
	That's right.
	Right?
	So the slaves need to wake up and want to save themselves, want to have leaders come from.
	There will be leaders.
	But why are you electing leaders who have nothing to do with you, who don't even want to be with you, who have great disdain for you?
	Why are you doing that?
	And that's because you're in an abusive relationship.
	And this is, I think, very, very deeply a fundamental issue that people need to reflect on.
	And that's why in 2026, David, I'm not going to run around.
	I'm not going to do all the work.
	Yeah.
	So, people want me.
	You're going to have to do the work.
	That's right.
	So, yeah, and that's a message that people really need to hear because the plan, and they keep telling us this is a plan, they want to pacify us.
	You know, well, hey, you know, you can have a job if you want to, but you don't really need to.
	We'll give you everything that you need.
	And it's just kind of like having a garden, right?
	You don't really need to have a garden.
	You can go down and buy all the food you want at the grocery store.
	But if you don't have a garden, because that's something you want to do, that's fine.
	It's a hobby.
	So you can have some hobbies, but we're going to put you on universal basic welfare.
	And all the money is going to be made by us.
	And at the same time, he's doing that.
	Musk is saying, at the same time, he wants to have all the money in the world that belongs to him.
	He's saying, well, money's not going to mean anything, right?
	Well, where did Musk come from?
	Where did Musk come from, David?
	He came from apartheid South Africa, where they had 3% of the population, having 97% do all the mining for emeralds, diamonds, jewels, etc., right?
	That's right.
	So that's where Musk comes from.
	And he needs to justify his own legacy of exploitation, right?
	It's not like he's concerned for humanity.
	The reality is, when you look at the aspect of AI and what can happen, he has no, you know, when he says everyone's going to have to work, let me put it to you this way.
	This is what the quote-unquote white man did to Native Americans.
	You don't have to work.
	We're going to put you on reservations.
	What's now happened is that we have a decentralized reservation.
	Yeah, that's exactly the model.
	Yeah.
	So 70% of people are basically living hand to mouth, right?
	I think 80% of Americans may have $1,000 in savings for a rainy day.
	They are all exposed to some type of substance abuse, cannabis, which is, by the way, not a harmless drug.
	And we can do a whole discussion on that.
	Okay?
	I agree.
	Or alcohol or smoking.
	I don't support any of that.
	I just am against the drug war.
	But you know, when you go back to the Indian reservation, I think that really is the model that they've got.
	That's the model they've got.
	In that particular case, these people who supported themselves by hunting and gathering or whatever it was that they were doing, and they took that away from them by force, put them into this container.
	With us, for the most part, they're doing it with a program of pacification, you know, like you would domesticate a wild wolf or something.
	You feed them until they become dependent on you.
	And yet they will go to the next level.
	That's only going to get a certain percentage of people.
	As you point out, it's decentralized.
	It's everywhere.
	The control is centralized.
	But yeah, and so they'll be able to have a situation where if you don't tow the line, we're going to cut you off from everything.
	And if you do toe the line, we'll give you all the free stuff.
	I mean, that's what Bill Gates is doing in India with the Aadhaar system.
	If you're poor and you're reliant on a handout from the government, that's fine.
	We'll give it to you as long as you take the number.
	If you need health care, we'll give it to you as long as you take the number.
	But that allows us to control you, to inventory you, and to know everything that you're doing.
	We'll let you walk around freely, but you won't be able to do anything if you don't take the system that we're imposing on you.
	And so that's kind of the model.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	So in the United States now, it was interesting.
	There's a butcher over here that I went to, a young guy, and he said that, you know, he said, oh, I've got a lot of Bitcoin.
	This is like several years ago.
	And I saw him a couple weeks ago and he said, oh, I sold all my Bitcoin.
	And I said, how many did you have?
	He goes, oh, I had 280.
	I go, but how many did you sell?
	Oh, 20.
	I go, what happened to your other 260?
	He goes, oh, I got into on these online gambling crypto sites and I lost 260.
	Wow.
	Okay, so they basically lost $20 million.
	Yeah.
	So they have the slaves gambling on drugs and encouraging them not to work.
	That's a reservation.
	That's right.
	And this is happening.
	So you talked about the Aadhaar system in India, which was actually implemented by another scumbag called Nanda Nilakani.
	He's the one who actually developed it originally.
	He was brought in by the former prime minister to do it.
	But they have China being the Petri dish for surveillance.
	That's right.
	And they have India being the Petri dish for getting everyone on a card and how you incentivize people not to work.
	Look, 30 years ago in India.
	They're kind of the beta test sites, you know, they're beta test sites.
	That's right, yeah.
	Mass populations.
	So, you know, if you, it's very hard to get laborers to do anything in India now because this ADAR system gives everyone a free TV, free laptops, free food.
	So people are working like, why the hell do I need to work?
	That's what scared me so much about the lockdowns.
	I saw that as an Overton window normalization of this very type of thing.
	And I was surprised when they locked everybody down, everybody's going to take the handout and then they get used to it.
	Just like that.
	I mean, it just took a hold of them.
	They didn't push back against it at all.
	What's really interesting, David, I don't know if you've ever gone on Safari in Africa.
	No.
	Have you done that?
	No.
	Well, it's an interesting thing.
	I went once, and you're sitting there, and you're seeing all these animals, right?
	Lions, tigers, right?
	And you see these monkeys, right?
	And they're living among each other and they're scratching whatever fleas off them.
	But they're living in this environment.
	And you think about the fact that we as humans at one time lived in very basic conditions, right?
	Living off the land, very simple stuff.
	And I think the swarm knows this: that they could keep diminishing the infrastructure and people live with less and less and less.
	So, right?
	Like, you could theoretically just live in the woods, right?
	You know, learn how to kill.
	I mean, you could go to that level of, you could say, I'm living off the land, but you could go to that level.
	So I think the elites have done their calculus and they know that the bottom is pretty low.
	So you see in San Francisco, people are sitting on the streets.
	Right?
	Yeah.
	So I think a lot of very dumb activists, and this is the demoralization that's taken place to not build a bottom movement, they'll say, oh, Dr. Shiva, your movement won't be successful.
	You have to wait until there's a cataclysm.
	Then people rise up.
	It's actually not true.
	When a cataclysm occurs, people go to a new state of oppression and a newer state and a newer state.
	So if you ever go to India, you'll see on a highway ride down Delhi a guy taking a shower and pooping on the streets.
	And you'll see a guy like the Ambanis in Bombay, right?
	Who live in a billion-dollar skyscraper.
	So the elites know that the human mind can be manipulated.
	So putting people on UBI is going to be the squeeze.
	So I think it's going to be a slow squeeze.
	They're not just going to go kill people.
	You're going to get 20 million jobs off AI, put them on reservations, let them get drunk, let them eat crappy food, and they're just slowly going to die off.
	Yeah.
	Right?
	That's right.
	And that's what they did with the Native Americans, right?
	So that model, I think, has been mapped out in some wonderful spreadsheet created by whoever, right?
	So I think these guys are very clever.
	And the only way out of this is us building a bottoms-up movement.
	Now, intellectuals, like myself.
	And if we wait for a crisis like you're talking about, that was what surprised me about the lockdowns and stuff in 2020.
	I thought, okay, they're going to change things rapidly enough, and they're changing them very rapidly.
	It's going to wake people up.
	You know, the whole boiling frogs thing.
	And yet, when they sped up the change, it didn't wake people up.
	And I thought, wow.
	No, no, because this is this erroneous theory.
	Yeah.
	Oppression will somehow give a rise.
	Oppression oppresses.
	That's right.
	Oppression doesn't lead to liberation.
	So they have a set of fake activists telling people, that's why they do all the doomsday stuff.
	Oh, Wall Street's going to crash tomorrow.
	Well, and then people will rise up.
	It's nonsense.
	That's right.
	You have to build, change is not something spontaneous.
	Change must be organized.
	It must be built bottoms up.
	You have to have the right theory.
	You have to have the like anything.
	I mean, this iPhone didn't just pop out of it nowhere, right?
	That's right.
	Someone had to think about it, apply the physics, the chemistry, the material science to make it.
	So this is what they don't want.
	Intellectuals.
	So intellectuals are interesting, David.
	You could say, I'm an intellectual, right?
	You're an intellectual.
	Now, intellectuals are interesting in the sense they're not a class.
	You know, the swarm gave me the opportunity to go to MIT to learn this shit, right?
	But I could easily have taken my weaponry of the intellectual knowledge I got and been on Wall Street working at a hedge fund doing nonlinear dynamic equations.
	Or I could say, you know what?
	I don't really want to do that.
	I actually want to learn how to shatter the swarm, the system's dynamics.
	So there was a time at the time of, let's say, the revolution or the Renaissance where intellectuals made conscious decisions.
	Who did they want to serve?
	The majority of intellectuals in academia are practicing the oldest profession in the world right now.
	That's right.
	Right?
	So there's not.
	So we have to actually go among working people and give them the knowledge.
	And that's what we're doing with our movement.
	So we train them on the same advanced system science that you would learn as a PhD.
	That's what I really like about your movements and about your campaigns.
	Your campaigns are a way to pull people around, organize them, and give them the real tools and the perspective that they need to actually activate them.
	And that's what that's really about.
	That is so much more important than the elections.
	But again, when people are paying attention to what's going on, at least a little bit, you can grab those people who are at least looking around and seeing the things that are out there and then focus them on getting actively involved themselves.
	And that's why that is so important.
	Well, we're out of time, but thank you so much for coming on, Dr. Shiva.
	And we'll talk to you more about this.
	Shiva, the number four, and senate.com.
	Again, go there.
	That'll show people how they can get involved and they can learn about the swarm and how they can start to take control of this process instead of being controlled by it.
	We need to be history's actors.
	That's what Karl Rove used to mock us and say, well, you're just watching what we're doing.
	We're the people who are actually doing it.
	You can be the people who are actually doing it.
	That's the message from Dr. Shiva.
	Thank you so much.
	Appreciate it.
	All right, David.
	Thank you.
	Yeah, and sounds like the clown car is there for you.
	All right, thank you.
	Bye-bye.
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