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March 28, 2025 - The David Knight Show
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Jack Lawson’s Civil Defense Manual Returns with a Vengeance Amid a Nation on the Brink
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Well, welcome back, and it's great to have Jack Lussen back, and it's even better to have Civil Defense Manual back.
And it's not only back, but he's got a brand new website.
He's got new books that are there.
He's got a new substack as well.
He wrote this to me.
He says, People have been seeing the out of stock when they go to the website for so long.
He said, I think they stopped checking.
He said, would you show what we've got and show that, Travis.
Show the shipment of books that he's got there.
He said, we've got three tons of books and we're in the process of filling the back orders.
He said, the outage of books has been a whopping four months and ten days since all of this DEI people had screwed this up at his distributor.
They told me, all of a sudden said, oh, we just realized we got no stock.
Why didn't you restock on all this stuff?
So he's taking care of that.
He's got, I guess you're doing the distribution yourself, Jack, but he's got a new website, he's got more books, he's got a Substack link, and it's good to have him back.
Thank you for joining us, Jack.
Tell us a little bit about that.
Good to be on your show again, David.
Thank you.
Yeah, tell us a little bit about that.
Jack Lawson Books, it's a great website, and it's got a lot of different things there.
You've got a couple of new books as well as Civil Defense Manual.
I wrote those books quite a while ago.
One's my very first book.
It's a novel.
Sorry. It's a novel.
My son calls it the encyclopedia.
It's a historical novel.
The other one is a book called The Slaver's Wheel, about Colonel Sully DeFontaine, who's like a father to me.
I met him by running across one of his friends in Africa.
And the long and short of it is, Amazon, I call it the Communist Commissar Censoring Committee, for some reason didn't like the content of my books.
I deleted my account.
Something to the fact that my books didn't meet their criteria.
Well, they apparently didn't read the first one.
But the long and short of it is, they're in the process of being printed.
They'll be up and running.
I have the civil defense manual back.
I'm still astounded and dumbfounded that they, them, or whatever the pronouns were that were sent to me, they couldn't see.
When they pushed their cart by to take orders that there weren't hundreds of books there.
There was nothing there.
So whoever they hired apparently has got blinders on or can't count.
What I am in the process of doing, there is no civil defense system in this country.
That's right.
So I've started one.
I'm in the process of doing video streaming.
On different books that people can look at on our computer.
And we have what we call the Certified American Program.
Why do I have this?
Because there is no civil defense.
There is FEMA, and everybody's got a pretty good idea what they're capable of after a hurricane.
Another DEI group, yeah.
I mean, I get up in the morning, David, and I'm starting to feel like one of those 21 million Americans getting Social Security that's getting close to 200 at Creekmore every time I get up.
But the long and short of it is that there's nothing out there.
I have a lot of free resources.
If they go to www.jacklawsonbooks.com.
There's a lot of information on there.
I'm putting more and more on every day.
I'm giving this away.
Why? Because I'm more than interested in more than just selling books.
I'm interested in the future of this country.
I had a talk with a very powerful person yesterday.
Very wealthy person.
He is a Korean War veteran.
He's a retired colonel.
He was an attorney for 35 years in the swamp and he was one of Trump's security directors.
And he says this next four years is going to be the most tumultuous period in the history of this country since the Civil War.
I've been saying that for a long time.
And, you know, it's interesting because the fourth turning, I don't know if you're familiar with that book by Strauss and Howell, but everybody talks about all these different generations, you know, millennials, this and that, and the X generation, and so forth.
And everybody's using all of their labels, but nobody wants to talk about the fact that we're in the midst of a fourth turning right now, and we've got these next four years are the tail end of it.
These guys said in the early 1990s, like 1992, 1992.
They said something's gonna happen worldwide.
In 2007-2008, which is about 15 years ahead of when it happened, that'll be financial, that'll kick off the fourth turning, and it'll probably finish up sometime around 2029.
And lo and behold, the UN's got its 2030 world all planned out and all the rest of this stuff, and all these fourth turnings are massive economic stuff, usually accompanied by a war, and the previous two here, well, previous three in America were World War II and the Great Depression, prior to that, the Civil War.
Yes, I don't think the general American public Well,
I know they don't.
The general American public thinks since number 47's taken office, the new administration's there, Musk is investigating and finding all of this money that was literally stolen.
It's so bizarre, some of the things they're spending it for, that it's hard to even remember them.
But these people are dug in like a North Carolina tick.
They are not going to go away very easily.
And I know what that's like because we used to live in North Carolina.
We used to have to get those North Carolina takes out of our kids.
My son went to scout sniper school in the Marine Corps there.
And I bought him a new, I bought him a stainless steel Marine Corps, what's called a K-bar knife.
It's a common knife they carry.
And I said, how's your knife holding up?
And he says, You mean the stainless steel one, Dad?
I said, yeah, that one.
He said, well, there's nothing that's stainless steel in North Carolina.
Anyway, some sailor in the amphibious ship stole it from him.
But the long and short of it, there's trouble coming.
I get a daily briefing.
I subscribe to something called Forward Observer.
This morning, I couldn't count all of the protests going on.
Now, two months ago, there were four or five.
It's over 200 now.
Wow. And a large share of these are Tesla protests.
These people just haven't gotten out in the street yet.
They're throwing Molotov cocktails at dealerships, but they haven't gotten out in the street.
All we need is a trigger.
Oh, absolutely.
And that's what people have to try to prepare to protect themselves with.
Get together with their neighbors and get to know their neighbors and get to talking about what are we going to do if somebody comes in the neighborhood.
That's right.
Yeah, when you look at the way that they settle their grievances, we've seen this with them in the wake of the Supreme Court abortion decision.
Well, they do.
They started...
Throwing Molotov cocktails in crisis pregnancy centers or churches or vandalism or things like that.
And that's what we're seeing.
We're seeing vandalism.
And it's so misdirected.
It's not even going after, you know, some of them have burned up dealerships and charging stations, which, again, is not an appropriate protest at all.
But they have gone after people just because they've got a Tesla.
They don't know what the politics of that person even is.
And they've shown pictures of some of the people who've had their cars vandalized.
Vandalized. One of them was a woman in a wheelchair.
And they vandalized her car.
They don't know or care what her politics are.
And that's what we're looking at.
That kind of insanity that can come after anybody.
You don't have to do anything to get them offended.
They can become offended by nothing.
I've got a comment here on Rumble from Dustin Helm.
He said, I just bought the books.
I was hoping that they would come back in stock soon.
So now you're shipping, right?
Correct. We bought a shipping system, the computers we needed, and we're doing it ourselves.
That's the message of your book, isn't it?
You've got to do it yourself.
Don't rely on anyone else.
You're on your own.
I think that people lose sight of the insanity of these people, the corruption in their minds.
I know I have three of them in my family.
61 blood and adopted.
I've got three of them that basically turned Minnesota, did a large share of it, into what it is right now.
And I was astounded to see.
I mean, how many more governors and bureaucrats do we have?
That are like this governor of Minnesota.
You have a Chinese Communist Party office in St. Paul, Minnesota?
I read that the other day and I was just floored.
Well, I've got people in our family and, of course, typically they're involved in education because that's really where the mind virus is inculcated in people, these indoctrination centers.
And it only gets worse if you go through it and then you get right back out and come back in as a teacher and start teaching again, it seems like.
I don't know.
They can't tie their own shoes.
They haven't been 500 miles from home.
But I just don't bother to talk to them anymore.
Their minds are so screwed up, you can't even reason with them.
There's a saying, the inmates are running the asylum.
Well, they were under 46 now, Trump 47. They're not running it right now, and they are like spoiled children.
They're angry.
They're looking to get their pound of flesh from someone.
Oh, yeah.
And that's the American public.
That's the traditional.
You know, one thing I really like to dispel, I went to psychological operations training.
It's the British version of Fort Bragg, Special Forces.
And one of the first things they do is make sure people think you're bigger than you are.
I'm convinced this is only about 15% of the population.
That thinks this way.
And that's justified as a logical statement because of the election results last time.
So the long and short of it is they're not 50%.
They're 15%.
That's my belief.
And I think that is true.
Maybe up to 25% with their sympathizers.
15%. I agree, and I think that's true in so many different areas, that they want to look bigger than they really are.
I remember the story going back to the Civil War, the early days of the Civil War.
There was a Confederate general, and he was vastly outnumbered by all these people.
And so there was a little clearing there where they could see the troops and other places where they couldn't see him.
He just marched his troops around in a circle.
So they thought he had a much larger army, and they held off attacking him until he could get some reinforcements.
But I think that's really what we're...
That's called the indirect approach.
I have that in this book.
Good, yeah.
It's basically not having contact, but you read history about strategies, and there's some huge armies that totally outnumbered a defending force, and a defending force in one case...
Marched around in circles with this heavily armed unit following him until they wore themselves out and then the little unit attacked him and beat him.
It's a number of different simple tactics I have.
I make this book so people can understand what goes through the mind of people that are on the battlefield because if things go crazy, which they're already crazy, but if they get...
To have civil unrest, you're going to have to use things like this to defeat and hold your area to keep them from burning your house down.
First, they'll ask for food, then they'll demand food, then they'll kick your door down, and in the process, probably kill you and your family and turn your family and you into toast.
Burning your house down.
And you've had experience with that and with the Marxists in Africa and things like that.
And certainly, the other books that you've got there, the subtitle of that one was The Slaver's Wheel.
The subtitle was The Green Beret's Story.
It was classified mission in Africa.
It's very interesting in the Congo.
Very interesting to see these stories there as well.
But that's where you draw your experience from.
We're talking about the college stuff.
He says, yeah, when you pay those expensive tuition fees in college, you're literally buying into the propaganda.
They're going to have it away with you.
Everybody is pushing towards war now, it seems like.
And the Europeans, even as there's talk about peace in Ukraine, they don't want to have it.
Zelensky is saying he doesn't want to have it.
And Europe, of course, is...
The Trump administration continues to push them to rearm.
Germany is talking about spending well over a trillion dollars, which is so out of character for Germany.
They've been so jealous of staying out of debt, and here they're going to saddle themselves with over a trillion dollars worth of debt so they can rebuild a military.
Yesterday I talked about it.
The guy said, didn't we do that before once?
How did that work out?
He said, we used to always have the Germans screaming about the Weimar Republic and hyperinflation.
And we saw what happened when they went into massive debt and built a massive army.
Do we really want to do that again?
But you've got the European officials now telling people, well, you need to get 72 hours worth of food and water and things like that.
They're not even telling people anywhere close to what they need.
There need a lot more than that.
I don't know where this war thing is going to go.
I know that your listeners should know I went through nuclear weapons training when I was in the American Air Force.
And I actually was the one in my squadron with the most electronics training.
So yours truly was sitting on top of the W-40 thermonuclear bomb.
With my butt right on the thing.
Like Slim Pickens.
And arming and disarming the thing.
Yeah, well, I didn't have a cowboy hat.
Let's make sure you don't hit the release door on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, this thing was in a shelter.
It was in a missile shelter.
And so I went through training on the MAD doctrine, which MAD stands for M-A-D.
Stands for Mutual Assured Destruction.
Absolute lunacy.
I think I got depressed from it.
I couldn't think about anything else for the longest time and how crazy it would be.
Now, nuclear war is still a strong possibility.
I go through in my book how to survive it.
It's quite simple.
There's two rules you go by.
The 7-10 rule and the inverse square rule.
I'm not going to explain them, but in the book it tells you simply what you have to do.
It is survivable.
People think that every nuclear explosion is like Chernobyl.
It's going to be forever.
It is not going to be forever.
It's going to burn off.
Where I live in the Southwest, if they bombed Los Angeles, by the time that gets to my house, fallout, It would be one-tenth of the amount of radiation coming off.
You can protect.
It's very survivable.
You don't need gas masks, Geiger counters, all this stuff.
It's quite easy to survive against it, but we're possibly, depending, I don't know, the Europeans don't have very much as far as any military.
They sent all their stuff to Ukraine for the Russians to destroy.
With drones, yeah.
For the most part, they take low-tech drones and wipe out the expensive tanks.
$200 drone, they destroy a $50 million tank, you know.
And it shows the fallacy of American military equipment.
You know, we spend 10 times as much for something that doesn't work.
And the other side spends one-tenth of what we spend.
And they've got very effective weapons.
Yes. Yes, that's true.
Yeah, they need your book in Europe.
We need to get the word out to them.
As a matter of fact, I've got a lot of people who bought the coin all over the world.
Everybody needs to have this book.
And you put it out in a two-volume book, and it's physical.
Because that's really key.
And a lot of these disasters, people are not going to have internet service.
I mean, we just saw that in Western North Carolina with other places like that where the natural disaster comes.
Even if it's a natural disaster, usually you don't have electricity.
So it's good to have that.
It's good to have that knowledge.
It's good to set up those skills, to have those relationships in place before something happens.
Yes, and I tell people in the front of the book to get a large...
Ziploc bag, throw a candle and some matches in there, because you might be reading by candlelight.
I put the book in large font, so it's easy to read in low-light conditions.
And, you know, there's trouble coming.
People need to do one thing, and that's store food and store water.
And that's the biggest thing that I talk about to people is storing food and water and life-sustaining medicines.
I've got huge amounts of material in the book as far as surviving a gun battle.
Again, your readers should know that I was in a foreign legion anti-terrorist unit in a guerrilla war in Africa for two and a half years.
I put my experiences, and I didn't survive because I was a good soldier.
I've got a story I've got to tell you about a little later, but I've got stories in the book just to break it up.
One of them is my excellent black African chef.
He was a guy in my commando unit.
It's just...
It blows me away when I think back of that, how many times the good Lord pulled me out.
And I didn't think it back then, but like a friend of mine said the other day, he said, Lawson, you?
Two Bible study groups?
What's going on?
And I go to some.
They're combat veterans.
I really enjoy these people.
I don't even know if I like some of them, but I trust every one of them to watch my back.
And I'm just astounded by what is in the good book.
This is my second read.
The first one went on when my mom told me to go to Sunday school with the threat of waterboarding me if I didn't, you know.
Anyway. I gotta divert and tell you something that happened.
Sure. My mother-in-law was in...
My wife is from Africa.
She's British.
A place called Rhodesia, which is Zimbabwe now.
We got her mother out of there.
Her father died.
And we got her to South Africa.
She lived there for four years.
Then that started going down the toilet.
And it's just, I think Trump said, used the word shite hole.
Anyway, that's what they are.
It's just absolutely, they've destroyed the country.
Not because they're black, because the communists are running things.
That's right, yeah.
And it's just putting undue pressure and suffering on...
Both black and white over there.
And of course the communists always love to divide and conquer.
They'll divide you by economic class or they'll do it by race.
And so that is really what they're working on.
And same thing here.
Absolutely. So we get my mother-in-law, six years ago, we get her to the United States and we get her, we sponsor her, which we're allowed to do.
And we get her over here.
Now you have to understand the British.
I've often said Americans make good citizens, British make good subjects.
Because the bottom line, she's British.
She's a beautiful woman in her mid-80s.
Aerobics instructor, very fit.
Two years ago, she got all the COVID shots.
Because the government said, get the COVID shots.
And the Brits do pretty much what the government tells you to do.
They're very compliant with the government.
They believe that they got their best interests in mind, which anybody who's taking history class apparently failed it if they think the government's going to do anything good for you.
Let me interject here.
There was an excellent animated film I remember back in the 1980s or 90s called When the Wind Blows.
And it was this animated film, and this British couple...
And it's a nuclear war, and they're going by the government's handout as to what's going to happen.
And so throughout this whole thing, they're so incredibly naive, and you're watching them slowly die because everything the government told them to do was wrong.
But yeah, when you say they'll follow the government, whatever the government says, make me think of that if people have not seen that.
Yeah, that's exactly what they do.
They do that in just about everything.
So we get...
My mother-in-law over here, and she stays between our house and the other sister, my wife's sister's house.
We give her living quarters.
We feed her, take care of her.
And she got all the COVID shots because they said to get the COVID shots.
And then all of a sudden, her toes started turning black.
We took her, and I got madder than hell at her.
I said, you're going to get gangrene?
We took her to a doctor after three different doctors.
Well, we don't know what it is.
So they gave her some antibiotics.
Coincidentally, the clots went away.
Her toes were getting filled with blood clots.
So she goes from that to two years later, all of her toes turned black on her right foot.
Well, they removed them all.
They had three vascular surgeons in there.
They kept calling vascular surgeons in because I think they knew what was going on.
It was a result.
One of them finally told us this, but it was the COVID vaccine.
So then they took her right toes off.
Then they took her left toes off.
They started turning black.
Then the next thing we knew, two months later, they removed her right leg up to mid-thigh.
And then another month later, they removed her left leg all the way to her hip.
The fear was gangrene from the clots.
And my wife and I know exactly what it is.
But now, we got a call yesterday.
They're going to take her right hand off.
You know, it's so upsetting because this woman, it's like she's being tortured.
She is probably, and people out there that have...
Mother-in-laws, guys like me that don't like them, she's the perfect mother-in-law.
She's my little Jewish princess.
Even though she's older than me, I love her.
She's so polite.
We've got her in an assisted living home now, but I don't know how much of this stuff is going on in the country.
Finally, we had a doctor say it's caused by the COVID.
I suppose he could get fired for that, but like Robert Kennedy Jr. says, we need to have a national discussion on this thing.
It's people, the doctors are deathly afraid to say anything.
Well, he needs to stop it.
He's in a position where he could stop it.
You know, we don't need any more data.
We need somebody who's going to take action on it.
He needs to do something to stop that.
It's just unconscionable.
Yeah, I guess there's people out there in universities and institutions that are still telling you to go out and get a COVID.
Get the 10th vaccine.
This is absolute insanity.
We've had friends die from it, 33 years old, weightlifters, fit, all of a sudden, go to bed in Tuesday night, Wednesday morning, they're room temperature.
Don't smoke, don't drink, don't take any drugs, legal or illegal, and they die of a heart attack.
How often did that happen before?
Now they're having kids in school, in high school and even younger, have to take...
participate that's never happened before and you know this is this has been going on for the longest time it's just watching this roll out in slow motion and nobody has the courage to stand up and do anything about it in government and it appears to be that they have to essentially take an oath of loyalty to the pharmaceutical companies in order to get any kind of position in there you saw what happened with the one guy dave walden they replaced him now with somebody who is
Fully on board with all vaccines, including COVID stuff, and is going to push us towards AI being inserted into health.
She's got deep connections into the intelligence stuff.
So, yeah, people have to do this on their own.
Yeah, this is so upsetting.
My wife has been crying here all day.
You know, what's my mother-in-law going to end up with?
No arms, no legs?
It's just horrible.
It's atrocious.
I don't know if you know anything about this.
I read something to the effect, one of the whistleblowers from a pharmaceutical company that was involved in making these vaccines says that at the end of 2025, there's going to be a cascading mass of people dying.
He said there's some kind of time clock.
What do you know about that?
I don't know, but I know when you're talking about blood clots and things like that, because I have AFib and there's a chance of that.
I don't want to take the pharmaceutical anticoagulants and things like that, and I don't know what these clots, if it would be successful, because a lot of these clots, when they have done autopsies, you know, they find that it's this white...
Fibrous stuff.
But there are some things out there like lumbrokinase and natokinase that are natural anticoagulants that I don't know if that would help or not, but I'm not a doctor.
But that's the kind of stuff that I take instead of taking their really dangerous pharmaceutical anticoagulants because they always have some horrific side effect.
Since we last talked to you, one of my sons was given an incredibly dangerous concentrated antibiotic when he had an issue.
It could have given him something like azithromycin.
Instead, they gave him this fluoroquinolone, and it's a phloxan poison that has been going back to Cipro.
It's been going on for decades, and the FDA won't do anything to stop it.
And so, you know, he was bedridden for...
Yeah, it's...
They've been bought off.
The whole thing is our money going to people that are running things like the FDA.
They go from there to be a board director for $2 million a year.
They've got all kinds of plants to get in the agency they left.
All kinds of contacts of authority.
Basically, they're a conduit to get things done that...
Shouldn't be done.
That's right.
I say that FDA stands for free to do anything.
Rather than regulating these companies, they leave them free to do anything they wish, make money, and then, hey, when I get out of this position, I'll join you.
Which is what we saw happen with the previous heads of the FDA under Trump.
You know, both of them, one of them goes to Moderna, the other one goes to Pfizer.
They greased all that stuff.
So, yeah, it's bad.
Yeah, I strongly recommend any of your listeners.
That are inclined to think that this COVID vaccine, a tenth booster, is going to do them any good.
Do not get them.
I've read that there's some type of nanobot they're coming out with.
God only knows what that's going to do with your body, but it's supposed to clear the spike proteins from your body.
I don't know.
I'm not a doctor either, but I am getting very...
Disturbed with what I feel is a lack of ethics.
Literally a lack of morals in the medical community.
Oh, it's gone.
It's just horrible.
You know, I had questions about this from the very beginning.
I just played a clip this last week of an RN who is suffering from this, and her body is still producing the spike protein 1,500 days later.
And I said that from the very beginning.
I said, you know, when Moderna comes, Trump sets them up.
In a little presentation, how long is it going to take you?
No, that's too long.
Well, I can do it faster.
No, that's still too long.
And he finally gets to the other guys at the end where he's got this all programmed out.
And they say, well, we can do it right now.
We can turn your body into a vaccine manufacturing facility.
And so when I looked at the way they described the way this thing worked, I said, how do you turn this off?
Well, it turns out you don't.
And so that's one of the key issues that's happening with it.
And you go back and you look at Deagle.com.
I mean, these people have this stuff all planned out, I think.
Yeah, they're coming out with a lot of injectables to replace medicines, at least the VA is, and I refuse to take them.
I know if I have an adverse reaction to a pill they give me, I can quit taking it that day.
But once you get two weeks of the pill in you, How do you get it out of your body if you're having a problem with it, you know?
That's right.
And all the stuff that they do is just getting more and more concentrated.
I mean, even like the antibiotics that are there on Rumble.
I have Mav2022 says one of my best friends just dropped dead on a Zoom call because of those clots.
Wow. It truly is amazing.
But, you know, when you're talking about...
Yeah, go ahead.
No, we'll see where this goes, but the insanity is still out there.
Yeah. I've got an African-American friend because I was in Zimbabwe, and she's from there.
And this is how crazy things are getting.
She put a comment about it's good to see Doge and Elon Musk finding out all of the money that's literally been stolen from people.
The next thing is, she gets a comment from somebody that had an Asian-Indian-sounding name.
And they said, they apparently looked into her Facebook account and found out she was from Africa.
And this comment was, well, go back to Africa and take Elon Musk with you.
And so she got mad.
This is unsolicited.
Just provocative.
And she said, assuming this lady was from India, well, why don't you go back to India?
You're not wanted here.
So the next thing is, the person that put the provocative statement deleted it.
So you couldn't see it.
Found out where this woman worked.
Got a hold of her company.
Her boss fired her.
They fired her before they talked to her.
So she had a She said, you don't even know.
You're only getting half the story.
So anyway, the long and short of it is she went to another company.
They hired her.
They said, you know, we've got another person that had the exact same thing happen to them.
They just went to work here.
And it was a Muslim woman.
And so this got to be a real circus.
And I told her, I said, you know, I close my Facebook account.
Get your stuff back.
Get off of it.
And it's just gotten to be, I call it, you know, maybe this isn't something you agree with, but I call it Satan's computer system.
It literally antagonizes people to the point that after this happened, I'm talking to another author, Matt Bracken down in Florida.
I talked to him for an hour and a half last Sunday.
And he's an expert on this.
Because he's been suspended or kicked off everybody's website.
And he said, Jack, that is a bot.
I said, what do you mean?
He said, they are paying people to go out and send these bots out.
They aren't even human.
But they have a human overseer, and they're just trying to stir up as much trouble.
He said, left-wing lunatics.
Again, the inmates are running the asylum.
Well, and it's only going to get worse because we're going to have artificial intelligence that's going to go out and make these determinations about you based on your content that's on social media.
And they will label or stigmatize you.
And it won't just be that.
It'll be geospatial intelligence that they've been working on since the late 1990s, the fastest growing part of intelligence, where they look at your patterns and other things like that, just like they did the people who were in Washington, D.C. on January the 6th.
They put a geofence around that.
But they can look at that and collate that.
With their surveillance techniques, and they can determine what your politics are, what your religion is, and all the rest of this stuff.
And if they don't like it, then they can come after you.
That's going to be the world that we're going to live in.
And that's going to be an essential part of preparation and survival as well.
That's going to be, I guess, what we call that information awareness.
Because they want total information awareness, so we have to be aware of what information they want to get from us, right?
One of my friends used to be one of the big mucky muck directors of Department of Homeland Services, and he was telling me about the surveillance they were doing back, well, he quit in 2019.
He said the things that were going on there, he just didn't want to stay there anymore.
Oh, yeah.
He said they were bordering on being treasonous.
Yes. Oh, I think they passed that border a long time ago.
In my estimation, yeah.
Things are just going further down.
Surveillance, he said, is beyond your comprehension.
And he said, I quit six years ago.
And he said, I don't even know what it's like now.
But this is going to move from a keyboard or AI to the Tesla, it's gone, and to the streets at some point.
This is far from over.
These people are not going to give up, and they've got a lot of money behind them.
I often wonder how much this money has disappeared.
It's sitting in slush funds.
I know one Baptist group, it was a church group, and I'm not beating up on Baptists, but they got a $10.7 million grant.
I guess the money's just given to them.
And four years later, after the Biden administration, Group had over $800 million in a slush fund.
How much of that is going on in the country?
Somebody's funding this stuff, even though Trump's cutting it off.
The fact that he cuts it off, I don't know.
Do they need congressional approval?
Where is this going to go?
Is it going to stay cut off?
Well, you know, you just had a situation like that.
It was charitable aid that was being spent by Samaritan Ministries.
That's Franklin Graham's thing.
And they were supposed to be reimbursed by USAID, which I've always thought is just synonymous with the CIA, because it is.
But anyway, a judge comes back and says, no, you can't cut that funding.
And so then they were able to get that money.
That money was not going to go to them, and then that became a news story.
But here's the thing.
A lot of people want to excuse what Trump did.
They'll always say, well, he didn't do it.
It was the governors who did it.
No, he paid them to do it.
And that's the way the presidents always operate.
They don't want to give a direct order because people will challenge that in court with the Tenth Amendment.
So what they do is they bribe and they blackmail people for the money.
So it's amazing to me to see that these judges are pulling back Trump not spending money, right?
That's the kind of interest.
Congress can allocate the money, but the executive does not have to spend it.
Trump has used it as a weapon to spend or to not spend.
Obama has done the same thing.
Biden has done that.
They all do that.
They all say, well, I'm going to cut off your Title IX funding if you don't put the boys in the girls' bathroom.
They all do that.
And yet now you've got these judges out there saying that you have to give the money out on USAID.
It's crazy.
Or they put an order out.
Send the two astronauts back into space.
The two they just rescued.
It's absolute lunacy.
I think they need to close some of these judge ships and just shut them down.
I can't believe they've got that many judges that are supposed to be impartial that are so political.
But that's the point in the case.
I'd like to go over a couple of things.
Sure. As far as this book, my number one preaching point, again, is store food and water.
Store life-sustainable medicines.
I've got a list of things.
If people go to that, they can look into it.
It's what I call my new home for the Civil Defense Manual, jacklawsonbooks.com.
But I would like people to look at what is in the Civil Defense Manual.
Yes. I think they'll find literally the A to Z of survival.
If you know what's in this book, and you can get the cooperation of your neighbors, or as I know some people have their own private security force, and that is this.
They run into like-minded people, young guys, most of them looking for Afghan and Iraqi vets.
And they say, bring your wife, your girlfriend, your kids, whatever.
Bring them to our house.
You're going to have to sleep in the floor, but we'll have food and water for you.
And they pile enough food up to where they can take care of four or five different people.
The point that I make in my book, which is a...
Cast in stone.
I don't recommend people going out and going remote.
That's just asking for problems.
I'll liken it to this.
People got to think the last time they went camping with their kids and they got out there and what they forgot, which was just about everything.
And the long and short of the thing is, if people go remote, there's another thing.
Wherever they go, there's going to be some people close by.
Eventually, these people who are living out there because they don't want to be around people are going to see this family that's out there as nothing but rodents.
Potentially, they're going to be over to their house asking for food and water.
And they're eventually going to probably try to take it.
Now, outside of storing food in a house and staying in your neighborhood...
Which I advocate.
You have way more resources in your neighborhood.
And so you're talking about this in terms of, you know, somebody has a bug-out bag.
And, you know, they've got maybe some remote location that they hardly ever go to.
And so, you know, something happens.
Maybe if it's a natural disaster, that's a good plan.
But if it's, you know, something else, that's not necessarily a good plan because there's a lot of risk on the travel as well as once they get there, they don't know anybody, right?
Point is, David.
How are you going to get out of some of these metro areas?
You're not going to be able to get out of there.
That's right.
Las Vegas police did a study.
I told you about this once before.
They randomly stopped 1,000 vehicles.
Unless somebody was really impaired, they knew they were drinking or they were on drugs.
They didn't do anything to them.
But they did one thing and one thing only.
How much gas you got in your car?
And they came up with, those 1,000 cars had an average of 3 eighths.
Of one tank.
A little over a quarter of a tank of gasoline.
Now, you're going to go out of town 100 miles.
How far are you going to get before the freeway looks like a parking lot from people running out of gas, cars breaking down, general traffic.
We had an experience.
How are you going to get to your bug out location?
You're not!
We had an experience with that.
We went up just before Thanksgiving once, and we were going up to Niagara Falls, and so we were going through Buffalo, where they have a lot of snow.
And they had a record snowfall for a 24-hour period, and it happened all at once.
And so even though the people there have a lot of snow removal equipment, even though they're experienced with it, and even though you've got a lot of people who've got four-wheel drive, SUVs, or whatever, The roads got blocked.
It just took one person who was like, oh, it's coming down really fast.
I've got to get home.
They get stuck because they've got a little tiny car.
Then another person with a little tiny car gets stuck.
And before you know it, the road was completely – we got stuck in that situation.
We eventually got out of it because we picked up a guy who lived there.
And he took us through some back roads and stuff like that.
But I saw how quickly that happened just because – not because of gas, but because they didn't have the appropriate car to – Well, say you do get out of the city.
You got your bug out bag.
72-hour bag, a lot of people call it.
What are you going to do after 72 hours?
You can maybe stretch that bag out if you have the discipline in the family to five or six days.
But that's about it.
Then you're going to be looking for water, and you're going to be looking for food.
And like I put in a civil defense manual, treating water.
You're going to look at water that looks like it's out of some kind of a beer commercial.
It's so clear, crystal clear, but you drink it, it's going to be like some water I drank in Africa that had a dead monkey in it.
I didn't know it had a dead monkey in it until one of the guys removed the pump cover.
Or the float cover from the thing.
And I wish I hadn't drank it.
The black guys with me, they're all peachy because they're used to drinking stuff like that.
Me, I won't tell you the story.
It was ghastly.
But what happened to me the next couple days?
And it took me over a month to get rid of this.
It was maybe dysentery.
So the water is going to be an issue.
The food's going to be an issue.
You can get books.
And I recommend people have this even if they stay in their neighborhood on wild edibles.
I've got all this stuff in the book.
If people go on my website and simply look at some of the free resources, I'll tell you what you have to do.
For one thing, people have no idea how important sanitation is.
That's what I call there's a deadly two sisters.
That are diseases that if you don't have sanitation, and I'm not talking about taking care of your garbage, I'm talking about people's bowel movements and urination.
It's got to be taken care of.
You have to do it in specific places.
It cannot get into water supplies.
You also have to bury your cans, your containers and stuff.
Because you've got to remember, you're out in the wild.
You're not in your area.
You're in wildlife jungle area, literally.
I don't care where you go in this country.
I can go out in the desert here, and I'm in wildlife area.
There's coyotes out there.
There's mountain lions out there.
There's all kinds of issues, and they're looking for something to eat, too.
People can get a lot of this and the free resources, and I encourage people to go into jacklawsonbooks.com.
And look at some of this stuff, read some of this stuff.
People think everything's going to go on.
One of my favorite pictures in my book is a picture of a beautiful subdivision and its winding street and all these picture-perfect homes.
And the other half of the meme is an armored vehicle and three guys firing their rifles.
And the captions say this.
This is what normal civility looks like.
And then it says, but this is what base humanity behavior looks like.
The guys firing the weapons.
We're so fortunate in this country.
I feel like an insurance salesman trying to sell an intangible because people think, oh, turn the water, tap on, water's coming out.
That may or may not happen if we have enough problems in this country.
That's right.
Yeah, you're like an insurance salesman trying to sell life insurance to a healthy 25-year-old.
But what he doesn't know is that he's got cancer, you know, and there's a cancer in this country.
Regardless of what you see happening right now, we know the direction that this is likely going to take, and that's the real issue.
You're trying to sell insurance to people who are not aware that there's a really bad disease that is going around, and that's the key part of it.
Yeah, that bad disease going around is corrupted logic circuits in people's minds, you know, the ones that are...
But we went through this before.
When Trump got in the last time, the survival business just went on hold with people.
That's right.
They weren't interested.
This time he's in, he's changing things.
And because he's changing things, there's going to be a pushback.
And we haven't even seen it yet.
That's right.
Yeah. Well, you know, it's always that way.
Whenever a Democrat gets in, everybody starts buying guns.
And when a Republican gets in, nobody buys any guns or ammunition or things like that.
And nothing has necessarily changed.
And so, you know, I just saw, I didn't get to it today, but there was an article.
That the ATF has got like a honeypot trap trying to put up a website and talking about how they're going to, hey, you want to buy this illegal item?
And then once somebody bites on that, they come swooping in on them.
So that kind of stuff is still going on.
People think, oh, that isn't an issue because now Trump is in power.
It's going to take him all of four years to get rid of most of those people.
Yeah, if he even wants to.
Yeah, and if the...
If the Democrat or the left gets back into power, they'll fully reverse everything.
Right away, exactly.
Yeah, if he takes it all out by executive order, they'll put it all back in by executive order next time it comes around.
So you better prepare as if it's not going to go away, because if any of this stuff even does go away, it'll only be temporary.
Well, at least we haven't seen what I've seen in some countries, and that's the car bomb.
I've been in two places where two different countries, Northern Ireland and Rhodesia, where car bombs are set off, 30, 40 people killed.
And we haven't seen that.
And we haven't.
The biggest thing I think.
Not yet, anyway.
Yeah, not yet.
The biggest Achilles heel, I believe, is our vulnerable infrastructure.
Shoot a hole through a transformer at a power relay station.
You're down for the count.
It's too much.
I explain it in the book why this is so critical, why we also probably have a big threat with the EMP.
At some point, Putin's probably going to call the German Prime Minister and say, hey, you know that city, Dresden, that was firebombed in World War II?
Well, we're going to send a hypersonic missile over there with a conventional warhead, but it's going to be a big one.
And so why don't you evacuate that city?
If they attack and get in troops on the ground over there, that place could go up in flames again.
I don't know what we would do as a response, but...
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Well, you know, remember, it was like a day or two after Trump became president, he had that Stargate thing, right, where he brings in Larry Ellison.
And he says, you know, our grid is really old.
And it's very vulnerable.
So you guys need to set up your own power plant right next, you know, your own source of power right next to your manufacturing facility.
It's like, oh, so you're not going to do anything to fix the grid or to help its vulnerability to an EMP attacker.
That's nice to know that you're not even interested in it.
You're going to tell all your pals to set up their own private power source.
But yeah, that's the way this is all going.
And again, Anybody who trusts government, that's a real concern.
Overall, I've said that the problem with Trump is that he put a big pacifier in everybody's mouth the first term.
Now he's putting trust in.
And that's the big concern.
Well, thank you for joining us, Jack.
We're out of time, but everybody go to jacklawsonbooks.com.
He's got links there to take you to his substack.
You can see free resources there.
He's got other books as well.
And Civil Defense Manual is in stock.
And I guess they can still get there with the old email address or old website address.
But Civil Defense Manual, one of your best resources you can find.
Thank you so much for joining us.
You're welcome.
Thank you, David.
Thank you.
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