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As the clock strikes 13, it's Thursday, the 16th of May.
Year of our Lord, 2024.
Well, today we're going to begin by looking at some updates on some current stories.
We're going to look at what's happening. The crew of that barge that struck and took down the Baltimore Bridge is still stuck on the ship.
And some interesting interactions there with the FBI that are happening.
And speaking of the FBI, we're going to have a filmmaker that we've talked to in the past, Christina, who I mentioned yesterday was being debanked because she's doing a movie.
About the FBI entrapment of people and the so-called kidnap and kill case of Gretchen Wittner doing that documentary.
We're also going to take a look at how they keep going back and forth with these masks.
And now we're going to have, we've got state after state passing laws making it illegal to wear a mask in public.
Oh, wait a minute. It was just a couple of years ago you had to.
We'll be right back.
Yes, we will also talk about some weightier issues, like the attempted assassination in a Balkan state, when Travis told me this happened on air yesterday.
We'll give you an update on the condition of that, but more and more push for war in History doesn't repeat itself, but it sure does rhyme, doesn't it?
And so we'll take a look at that.
We'll also take a look at the rumors about the debate.
This thing has turned already into a full WWE, even the announcements.
Oh yeah, make it happen, big boy, that kind of stuff.
This is just like professional wrestling, because it is just like professional wrestling.
So we'll talk about the back-and-forth whining about it, whether or not RFK Jr.
will be included. You know, he could call their bluff and meet the bar that they have set.
It'd be interesting to see that happen.
It'd be interesting to see a third-party dynamic in the debates.
That's why they have put together the Presidential Debate Commission to make sure that doesn't happen.
That is a uniparty thing.
And it is a collusion between the media and the RNC and the DNC, but especially the RNC and the DNC. They come together to make sure that nobody other than their shills are ever going to be discussing anything.
And they can keep it irrelevant.
They can keep it about their personalities.
They can make it professional wrestling.
But I want to begin with some general news.
And there's some light issues in the general news that I think are still nevertheless interesting.
As I began, I said, we still have the crew trapped on a Baltimore ship seven weeks after the bridge collapse.
And when I looked at this, I thought, well, is this some of the ships that couldn't get out of the port?
Well, no, this is actually the ship We're good to go.
Those bodies, I believe, have all been recovered.
But on Monday, they had a controlled demolition.
I saw that. I didn't realize, though, at the time, because I wasn't really going to follow it, that these people on board, that they're totally isolated because the FBI confiscated their phones and other things like that.
That's what I thought was interesting about it.
And so six people were dead.
The rest of them marooned.
They said they're hoping that this demolition will be the beginning of the end of a long process that's left 21 men on board, trapped and cut off from the world, thousands of miles from home.
The crew is 20 Indians and a Sri Lankan national.
And they can't get off because they don't have a visa.
It's a little bit different than coming across the southern border, isn't it?
You know, you come across the southern border, they don't take your phone, they give you a phone, they give you a pass, and they give you a plane fare to go wherever you want, all the rest of the stuff, but not in this particular case.
And of course there are some reasons for this being different.
There has to be some kind of an investigation, that's what the FBI is doing.
And as the Coast Guard pointed out, these guys are necessary because they're the crew that's going to be there.
The Coast Guard Admiral Shannon Gilreath said they're part of the ship.
They're necessary to keep the ship staffed, operational.
They're the best responders on board the ship themselves.
So while the ship is likely to be refloated this week, it remains unclear whether it'll be able to make the two nautical miles journey to port.
It truly is amazing when you think about how big this ship is.
You know, they're able to take down one of those things and still survive.
The crew has been left largely without communication to the outside world for weeks after their mobile phones were confiscated by the FBI as part of investigation.
They can't do any online banking.
They can't pay their bills at home.
They don't have any of their data or anyone's contact information.
So they're really isolated right now.
They can't reach out to folks they need to and even look at pictures of their children before they go to sleep.
It's a really bad situation. For the time being, they've been given SIM cards and temporary mobile phones without data included.
So they don't have any data.
They've just got temporary phones.
I wonder if that includes a plan to call back to India or Sri Lanka.
They also received care packages from various community groups and private individuals.
Things like snacks from India and handmade quilts.
A really strange situation.
Of course, it's very...
Even if they get one lane opened up there, that's still stuck, and it's going to still be many, many years before that bridge is rebuilt.
And then I didn't get to this yesterday, but we do need to...
I have a couple of things to say about the portrait of King Charles.
People saying it looks like he's in hell.
It looks satanic.
It looks like it's got blood all over the place.
And I think I would go with that last one.
I think it definitely has a kind of Vlad the Impaler vibe to it, don't you?
He has bragged about how Vlad the Impaler...
The guy who was the model for Dracula.
How that was his ancestor.
He bragged about that many, many times.
I wonder if that's a coincidence.
If that's any reason why this picture looks the way that it does.
Truly is startling.
This mass of red and the hands and head sticking out.
And of course there's a little butterfly there.
That's a hint to his environmentalism, if you will.
But I don't think that he...
I think it's more important the idea that he wants us to be in a living hell.
And then we had someone who will be missed, who just recently died, and that is David Sanborn, I think.
Many of us will miss David Sanborn.
Very well-known saxophonist who crossed a lot of different genres.
He did rock.
He did pop. He did jazz in a lot of different formats.
He and Bob James really were groundbreakers in cool jazz back in the 80s.
And always enjoyed Dave Sanborn.
You know, it's kind of interesting. I saw that he was from Tampa.
He was born in Tampa. Of course, he was raised somewhere else.
And I thought, well, that's cool.
Two of my favorite alto sax players, Dave Sanborn and Cannonball Adderley, came from Tampa.
Just like me. Except one of these things is not like the other two.
I played alto sax.
They played alto sax very differently than I did.
Although I played it more like Dave Sanborn in the sense that his sound was...
The sound was harsher, edgier because it was a mouthpiece, for one.
You know, you have a metal mouthpiece, you can get a real edgy sound.
That's what I did.
Whereas Cannonball Adderley, like Phil Woods and some others, had this really large, round, I would say, mellow sound.
And again, part of that is because of the mouthpiece that they did.
Just to give you an idea. This is one of the albums, I believe, that won a Grammy for him and for Bob James.
Back in the 80s, it was, like I said before, fundamental and beginning cool jazz.
The album's double vision.
Very distinctive sound.
And of course, great sax players, they always do have very distinctive sound.
You can listen to it.
And the saxophone sounds very, very different depending on who's playing it.
And again, the types of mouthpieces that they use and things like that.
It's one of the reasons why I think it's never really caught on in symphony orchestra is because there's really not a real standardized sax sound like there is for other instruments.
Again, he was 78, and he'd played with David Bowie, Bruce Springsteen, Rolling Stones, Eric Clapton, Elton John, Paul Simon, all different kinds of styles he'd play.
And he said real musicians don't have time to spend thinking about limited categories when people talked about how many different genres of music that he played.
He did have an interesting interview where he talked about Being in the moment and being as a jazz player, and he refers to Wayne Shorter, another jazz sax player, he says, you know, when you're in the moment, that's the most important thing.
And that really is the most important thing, I think, for jazz players.
It's that live, improvisational thing.
That's what they really love.
And he talked about how...
You know, jazz is really, he says, if you're just going to be jazz, and I guess that's one of the reasons why he got involved in so many of these other genres, besides the fact that he was great and could do those genres.
And he says, if you're in jazz, you've kind of taken a vow of poverty.
He said, you look at all these great jazz schools around the country, and there's quite a few of them.
And yet, in America, where this is kind of, you know, one of our primary American art forms, it's not very popular.
You're not going to make a lot of money with it.
And so he says most of these guys, even though they're very good, they go to these great jazz schools, they wind up becoming teachers.
And I've known so many great musicians that I knew personally that wound up becoming teachers.
But here's what he said about being in the moment.
And I thought it was really interesting, not just from a music standpoint, but I think it's interesting from a perspective of humanity versus artificial intelligence.
You know, the perfection, supposedly, that we're going to get from computers or whatever, whatever they can bring to the moment.
We have a situation right now where there's a lot of push to replace humans completely in music.
But I don't think that's going to happen.
You're going to get generic stuff.
I don't know that it's going to be very creative.
Well, that remains to be seen.
But it's still going to be a live performance.
And here's what he had to say about being in the moment and the importance of storytelling and humanity in music.
I've certainly found that as I get older, I'm more willing to accept the reality that you can't go up on stage Knowing what you're going to play.
You have to go out there and take a risk.
And go out there and maybe fall on your ass.
You know, but...
Wayne Shorter once said something interesting to me.
He said, sometimes it's better to reach for a note and miss it than it is to reach for a note and hit it.
Because what it does, it's about the humanity.
It's about the aspiration.
And the audience relates to that humanity.
It's, you know, metaphorically, it's what we all do.
We reach for things, we don't always get them.
But that's, it's like, we're you, and you are us, and we're all in this together, and we're supposed to be telling you a story, and we're storytellers, what we do on stage.
And, you know, there's a narrative arc to a song, to a tune.
There's a An evolution of an idea and the ability to say you know what I'm gonna go out there and take a chance and Be in the moment because if you're in the moment You don't know what's gonna happen and that's a good thing Because in life you don't know what's gonna happen.
I mean you think you can plan and do all this stuff, but the reality is it changes all the time and You know, it's just something else is gonna happen other than what you thought Yeah, that's interesting, isn't it?
And you know, it is important, I think, when we talk about education many times, we talk about what we don't want our kids to have.
We don't want our kids to have the CRT, the LGBT, the DEI, these other alphabet soup things.
And there's certain things that we want them to have.
And I think one of the things that's important for kids to have, it's one of the things that I think is why there's not more interest in jazz or classical or a lot of these other things, is that our kids are being dumbed down in every aspect of education.
It's not just in math, not just in history, literacy, but it's also in things like music.
So if you're homeschooling your kids, make sure that you do something with them.
I mean, get some music lessons for them or something, but get them exposed to it so they can, it'll enrich their lives.
They're not necessarily going to become a musician.
But it was such an enriching thing for me to have music in my life from a very early age.
And I wish I had done it more with my sons and pushed them more into some of these things.
You know, people will appreciate sports more if you play the sports because you understand what it takes to achieve that particular thing.
And as I said, you know, we're there.
People are watching us in the audience.
They're identifying with what we're doing.
They understand the difficulty of it.
I mean, if you know the range of these different instruments, and I remember sitting in band and watching my peers, I knew what was difficult to achieve.
I knew that certain ranges of notes on different horns were really an achievement if they could nail it.
And I saw them struggle.
I saw them miss it. And that's why it was so important when they got it.
It's like, yeah, nailed that thing, you know?
And so that's a part of the joy of the performance of it.
It's also a part of the joy of even hearing somebody who is so professional, they make it sound so easy.
Wow, did you hear how easy he knocked that off, you know?
Again, he was born in Tampa, 1945, 10 years older than me.
But he grew up in Missouri.
He got involved playing because he got polio, which afflicted the right side of his body.
Didn't actually paralyze him, but it left him weak.
And so he started playing sax at the age of 11 because the doctor suggested that help him to build his lung capacity.
And that's kind of interesting.
You know, I got interested in music, of all things, the music man.
I saw that when I was 7 years old, and I immediately had to get an instrument so I could get in the...
The elementary school band, which was unbelievably awful.
It truly was straight out of that movie, that band, but it was something I was always involved in.
And it was just a real wonderful thing.
So, you know, make sure that you have those types of enriching experiences for your kids as well.
Well, let's talk a little bit about Bob Menendez.
Goldbrick Bob. It truly is amazing.
This guy, this is not his first rodeo for corruption either, right?
Mentioned this before. And yet, he's trying to pin this on his wife.
What a guy. I mean, he truly is.
It does fit into the Senate, doesn't he?
I mean, what a bunch of rascals these guys are.
Corrupt. Going to throw his wife to the wolves to save himself.
In battle, New Jersey, Senator Bob Menendez will blame his wife for accepting gold bars, cash payments, a car.
Door number three, Monty!
And hiding them from him, said his lawyer, on his bribery trial that began yesterday.
His wife, Nadine Menendez, and three New Jersey men, well, let's say three New Jersey men, but I think they're from...
Abroad. They have got connections abroad anyway.
We're indicted in September of last year in a scheme that allegedly saw the couple accept gold bars, hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash and payments for a Mercedes convertible in exchange for his political influence.
The lawmakers' actions ultimately benefited the Egyptian and Qatari governments, according to prosecutors.
He is 70 years old.
He faces 16 federal charges, including bribery, acting as a foreign agent, obstruction of justice and extortion.
He's pled not guilty and denies all wrongdoing.
As a matter of fact, he throws it to his wife.
His lawyer argued that it was Nadine Menendez who accepted the lavish bribes, hid them from her...
Scrupulously honest husband, who had already been accused and beat the rap in a corruption charge involving a Florida dentist.
Anyway, then she served as a messenger between the senator, his co-defendants, and Egyptian officials, they say.
He told jurors that Ms.
Menendez lives a relatively separate life from her husband.
And kept the gold bars locked in her closet.
Oh, there you go. He had nothing to do with it.
And who would think that any of these people in Washington wouldn't sell their soul, sell their wives, sell out their country for cash?
We just saw all of them do it to Israel this last week, didn't we?
One college has nearly 100 DEI staffers.
Administrative staff has blossomed.
Listen to this. You have George Mason University.
87 staffers working on DEI, the Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion.
Of course, that's D-I-E. That's how education dies.
To put that in context, there are only 59 history and art history professors at the school.
Oh, so it's way more, because academics don't matter, do they?
This is what matters.
And it's like, how did we keep funding this for the longest time, and why are we still kind of, why are we still funding this?
You know, one thing, we keep coming back to this theme, and all through 2020, You had all of the MAGA people and since then.
So for the last four years, I've had these Trump clingers telling me that Trump didn't do it.
He didn't do it. It's the bureaucracy.
It's the public health people.
It's those Democrat governors.
And it's just unbelievably naive because it's always about the money.
And just for example, this anti-Semitic act that they put through, what did they propose to do as punishment?
Take the money away.
What does Biden and Obama do if you don't put boys in the girls' bathroom, if they want to go in the girls' bathroom and shower?
You take the money away.
What did Trump just say that he was going to do to enforce these campaign promises?
He was going to take the money away.
He knows good and well.
How that works. He wasn't naive.
He wasn't deceived by them.
He knows that's what you do.
You reward it or you punish it.
You bribe people. You blackmail them by taking it away.
You bribe them by giving them a lot of, you know, get them hooked on your cash.
And then you pull it away if they don't do everything that you want to do.
So, why is it?
That when you have these universities that have become Marxist seminaries and have been for the longest time, why have they been funding them all this time?
Why is it only now and only on the issue of anti-Semitism as defined by an NGO, a non-governmental organization, independent of our government, Holocaust Foundation, whatever its exact name is, Why only that?
Why would we continue to fund these universities?
Is all the rest of this stuff okay?
Is all the racism and hatred and Marxism and LGBT, is that fine?
I don't think the vast majority of Americans are okay with that.
But there's not going to be any monitoring of that.
None of that stuff is going to be taken away.
And you can have more people in this bureaucracy to implement that because that's what it's about.
It's not about academics anymore.
It certainly isn't about free speech at all either.
It's about their Marxist revolution.
And our Congress is going to continue to fund that.
Just so long as they don't say anything bad about Israel.
It'll be fine. They'll continue to fund that.
And so will the really rich donors out there.
They don't care about that at all.
One teacher was fired in California.
She has now one vindication from the California school system.
They fired her because she refused preferred pronouns, because she refused to lie to parents about these children that were being groomed and gaslighted by the government schools.
Religious freedom is now protected no matter your career, said the lawyers who defended her.
California's Jarupa Unified School District, if I'm pronouncing that correctly, Settled a lawsuit, agreeing to pay $360,000 to a former high school teacher who was fired after refusing to use students' preferred pronouns and refusing to lie to the parents.
Actually, the $360,000 was not given all to her.
$285,000 to her.
$75,000 to her lawyers.
She was a gym teacher, Jessica Tapia.
Terminated for refusing to comply with the school district's requirement regarding her religious beliefs and students' gender identity.
Yet again, this is going to trump religious beliefs, just like so-called Christian politician Mike Johnson is going to have any concerns about anti-Semitism is going to trump your religious speech as well.
Today's settlement serves as a reminder that religious freedom is protected no matter your career.
If the school district's actions were legal, no teacher of faith would be qualified to serve as a public school teacher.
Jessica's story is one of faithful courage.
She fought back to ensure her school district was held accountable and that no other teacher has to succumb to this type of discrimination.
That some of these universities will take this Anti-Semitism Act abomination that was passed by Republicans and Democrats, the Uniparty.
I would hope that they will take that to court.
And I would hope that the court would throw it out, use it as toilet paper, which is what it deserves.
The lawsuit alleges that the school district insisted that Tapia, quote, lie to parents about the children's gender identity, refer to students by their preferred pronouns, and it's not even their preferred pronouns, their propagandized gaslight pronouns that other teachers at the school have pushed them into.
This is never a thing until the school started pushing it.
Why are we still funding schools that do this?
See, that's the other part of it.
I was just talking about why are we funding schools that push Marxism, racism, hatred?
Why are we funding government schools that do this?
You realize that most of your property taxes, which is a big chunk, a big chunk of your house payment, a big chunk of your rental payment if you're not buying a house, don't have a mortgage, you don't see it directly.
But it's there even if you're renting.
A big chunk of your monthly housing expense.
It's to support these schools.
And they are pushing this kind of stuff.
They are expanding.
As a matter of fact, when Biden was talking about schools, it came out that 28% of the schools were students were not speaking English.
This is how rapidly this tax burden is growing on us.
And I've said for the longest time, if you don't get control of immigration, one of the first things you're going to see it happen, and one of the first effects is going to be to take away the American dream of home ownership.
We can check that box, I think, pretty much.
It's out of control. We can't educate for free every child that comes here.
And these are kids who come here not because they want to be American citizens, not because they love our culture, want to buy into it, become part of it.
They don't even want to learn our language.
You think we're going to have problems now?
Wait until you have a sizable majority of people who don't speak English, or even if it's a sizable minority.
And then you're going to have all kinds of disagreements about what the Constitution actually says.
We can't agree on what it says even when it's written in English.
Tapia and Advocates for Faith and Freedom are subsequently launching a new campaign called Teachers Don't Lie.
And then we have the Turks and Caicos.
Remember I talked about this guy who had been on a hunting trip and he didn't realize, but I think he had like two bullets left in his suitcase.
He didn't realize it. But they went through it with a fine-tooth comb as he was leaving Turks and Caicos.
And they had, in the past, they would fine people for having that.
But now, because of the pronouncement of a single judge...
They now have a penalty of a mandatory minimum.
How does this happen? I don't know how their system works, but ours is not much better, really.
If it is any better.
But now the single judge has changed what used to be a fine to a mandatory minimum of 12 years in prison.
And now we've had five.
That just happened a couple of months ago.
Now five Americans are looking at mandatory minimums of 12 years.
Now, first of all, you're not going to have anything done by Biden.
The last thing in the world he cares about is Americans.
Congress is not going to do anything about it.
You better stay away from that place.
If they're going to put people in jail for 12 years because they find a bullet in your suitcase after they go through it with a fine-toothed comb, And these are people who flew in, they got through TSA, which is nothing but a ritual, right?
But these people actually scan and actually look.
And they're putting people in jail for 12 years?
Better stay away from that place.
But we're going to take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to take a look at the masquerade that has now done a complete 180.
It's amazing to see how volatile our government becomes when we've lost the rule of law and the principles that are involved with it.
We'll be right back. Analyzing
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you Well, we are ruled by, Simon Says rules, by little petty, fogging, bureaucratic dictators.
North Carolina may ban face masks for medical reasons in public.
You see, they could have done it all along, right?
And I said, right away, when this stuff happened, I said, do you realize that in 2002, North Carolina, What is it?
New South Wales. I want to say North South Wales.
Not North South Wales. New South Wales, Australia.
There was a very respected scientist who was supposedly the one who found the parvovirus.
She did a study in New South Wales, Australia.
Well, it wasn't just there that she did the study, but based on her study.
As SARS was making its first appearance, and you had everybody in Asia putting on masks.
That's when we saw that happen in 2002.
And the people in Australia at the time said, that's not going to work.
Common sense tells you that's not going to work.
There's no way that that's going to work.
And so, New South Wales said, we're going to give you, and I forget what it was, it's something like $100,000 or $200,000 Australian dollar penalty.
That was significant. If you sell these N95 masks and tell people it's going to save them from a virus, this is ridiculous.
And her research project She found that a lot of doctors and nurses were not wearing masks in surgery.
It didn't really matter. And when she looked at it, she said, well, even if you say that it's going to stop the spittle particles, certainly it's not going to stop any airborne particles.
But if you say it's going to stop spittle particles, after 20 minutes, the mask becomes so saturated with moisture that they start going out on little particles of water and that type of thing.
And there'll be smaller particles.
They'll travel farther.
They'll stay airborne longer.
So the mask was actually counterproductive to try to stop the virus and be hitchhiking a ride on a spittle particle.
It was actually counterproductive for that after 20 minutes.
Now, that's the reality. That was 2002.
18 years later, everybody worldwide wanted to ignore that.
And the North Carolina Senate, which just voted along party lines yesterday, to ban anybody from wearing masks in public, even for health reasons, they could have done that all along.
But instead, what we had was fear of the pandemic.
Now we have fear of protesters.
Fear of speech.
And so now it has changed.
Now I understand that a lot of these people are rabble-rousers.
A lot of them are hired.
A lot of them are provocateurs paid for by Soros.
And they're wearing these masks because they don't want that to be seen.
You do have some who are students and they're wearing the mask because they're concerned that people like Mark Levin...
And a lot of these big donors at these universities say, we're going to make sure these people never work anywhere in this country again.
Yeah, Mark Levin, the guy who wrote a book, Liberty Amendments, and wanted to have a constitutional convention, I said, first of all, you understand what a constitutional convention is going to be.
It's going to be people like Mike Johnson and Mark Levin, people like Bob Menendez for sale.
These are going to be the people who are going to write your new constitution if you have a constitutional convention.
Do you trust any of these people? I don't.
And he is openly saying, we've got to make sure these people never work.
Who are you to say that, Mark Levin?
You see how important it is for him to have a First Amendment, how important it is for people like Mark Levin to have free speech.
He hates it. He hates it.
He just wants to rule.
And all of them do. They say demonstrators are abusing the pandemic-era practices.
It should be called error.
E-R-R-O-R. Well, the masks were an abuse from the very beginning, and we all knew it, didn't we?
Yeah, we did. The bill goes even further, repeals an exception that has been state law since the early stages of the pandemic that allowed people to wear masks in public for health and safety reasons.
Not about that at all. 30 senators voted in favor, 15 opposed.
So, two to one. State Senator Sidney Batch, a Democrat, is a cancer survivor and shared with her fellow senators how her family wore masks to protect her and her weakened immune system during treatment.
She's an idiot. Did she carry a rabbit foot as well?
Come on, give me a break.
Did they knock on wood?
Did they not walk underneath ladders?
This is nothing but a superstition, folks, sold to you in the name of science.
Sold to people who can't think critically.
When they tell you, your mask doesn't protect you, it protects other people.
Come on. Isn't that a tell?
Isn't that a tell? Can't you think?
She and other Democrats proposed ways to amend the bill so police could still crack down on protesters, but continue to have legal protections for health concerns, but they were shot down.
So the AP noted that the state's general statutes on masking date back to the 1950s in an attempt to curb Ku Klux Klan membership when the state passed a public masking ban.
Under the bill, if a person is arrested for protesting while masked, it would elevate the classification of a person's crime, either misdemeanor or felony, to one class higher.
And again, it's not even just the Ku Klux Klan stuff.
I remember, you know, banks.
If you wore a mask into a bank, you were immediately a suspect.
And, you know, they're not going to let you typically do business, except during this idiotic exercise.
And I couldn't even get into my bank if I didn't wear a mask.
That's how stupid this was.
Anyway, it now heads to the governor's desk.
He's a Democrat. He could veto the bill, but they have a supermajority, and they can override what he does.
Now, it's not just in North Carolina.
In Ohio, it's not the legislature, but it's the attorney general.
And, of course, the attorney general could have stopped this masking stuff.
You see, it could have been stopped at any number.
You could have had Republican legislatures stop it.
They didn't. You could have had Republican attorney generals stop it.
They didn't. Republican governors stop it.
They didn't. The Democrats want it.
Democrats are fearful, little superstitious people, incapable of critical thinking.
And so, of course, they're going to go along with it.
That's why they gave us Trump!
To get enough of the Republicans to go along with it.
To make sure that the Republican politicians were not going to challenge it.
Because then they would be coming up against Donald Trump.
And that's political suicide.
For any Republicans to oppose Trump.
It's not just because he could gaslight his own people.
And get them to buy into this Orwellian doublethink.
It's because the Republican politicians are scared to death of that guy.
Another reason not to vote for him.
Anyway, Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost charged protesters under the Ku Klux Klan anti-masking law.
And he couldn't even get it past a grand jury.
A grand jury. In a grand jury, you don't have somebody arguing the other side.
That's why they say you can indict a ham sandwich in a grand jury because it's just you.
And you're presenting your one-sided situation in order to get an indictment from a grand jury, but the grand jury wouldn't even do that for this.
They rejected it.
What he wanted to do was he wanted to...
This was two people who had been charged with trespassing, which is a misdemeanor.
And then what he wanted to do was to use the Ku Klux Klan anti-masking law to bump it up to a felony.
To say that they committed a crime, misdemeanor trespassing, while wearing disguises.
Is there nothing that these Republicans won't do in order to pander to Israel?
It's just amazing to me.
The charges were ignored by a grand jury, but they still face a misdemeanor charge of trespassing.
So Attorney General Dave Yost, Ohio, pointed out the law in a letter to Ohio University presidents in response to the recent pro-Palestinian protest.
What he's trying to do is lock people away for 6 to 18 months.
And give them up to a $5,000 fine and five years community control for wearing a mask to a protest.
Now, you know, we just have been talking about the FACE Act.
This draconian measures being taken by Biden against people that he disagrees with on the issue of abortion and pro-life.
And how outrageous it is that these people get years in jail and Thousands of dollars in fines.
And yet, the Republicans will do that.
And the Republicans will do that to shut down free speech as well.
There's not really much difference.
I mean, there is a difference.
The Republicans will send you to jail for saying things about Zionism, and the Democrats will send you to jail for trying to protect a baby's life and trying to help a mother not kill her child that she's going to regret later on.
That's the difference. But both of them, you see, whatever it is that they want to do, whoever it is that they want to please, they are both perfectly capable of excessive punishment, excessive fine, and destruction of the First Amendment.
Both of them. Both Republicans and Democrats.
As I said many times, one of the reasons my understanding of Iranian history does not begin with the takeover of the American embassy, because I talked to some Iranian students that were there at USF. Most of them were engineering students, and they were having these protests with masks on.
I thought, well, take it somewhere else.
You know, this is not, you know, you've got a problem with the Iranian government?
Go back to Iran and protest it.
I was kind of naive at the time.
Because I didn't realize, and they were wearing these, they were wearing balaclavas.
They weren't wearing the Yasser Arafat hoodie, you know, whatever they call it, like kefaya or something like that.
I don't care. I mean, to me, it's always going to be a Yasser Arafat headdress.
And they probably got on Che Guevara t-shirt underneath, you know, as well.
But now these Iranian students, they said, well, you know, we're wearing the mask because there are people from the Iranian government taking pictures of us and they will arrest and torture and punish our families in various ways.
Like, wow. And it's your government, your CIA, that is supporting the Shah.
Your CIA is training the secret police, the Savak, to torture people.
That was way before we had Gina Haspel torture people to produce lies about weapons of mass destruction so we could have the Iraq War based on lies.
But that's the way the thing works.
And, you know, when I looked at that, I realized, oh, yeah, the CIA overthrew their government.
It's not somebody that I would have supported, not somebody that I would have voted for, but that's the Iranians doing their thing.
The CIA overthrew it for the oil companies.
So the question is, are we at the point?
We have to have protection.
Why are these people doing it?
Again, part of it is because of people like Mark Levin.
Part of it is because of these big college donors who are just fine with Marxism, with racism, with hatred, as long as it's not directed to their ethnic group.
You see? And then there's other aspects of it as well.
A lot of these people are trained revolutionaries.
Hired and paid by George Soros.
This is the way the landscape is set out there.
And it's not just those people.
The question is, are there people who are, when they've got a protest, and some people are going to be peaceful, just like we talk about January the 6th, right?
You've got people who show up to peacefully protest on January 6th, and I told them, because I knew this was going to be the case, I said, stay away.
There are going to be people who are going to show up and they'll be ancient provocateurs.
And they may take this peaceful protest where you are publicly redressing your grievances to the government as protected under the Constitution.
And they may pull off violent acts on the side.
Folks, we'd be naive to think that that isn't some of what's happening here as well, wouldn't we?
So you've got George Soros on one side, funding revolutionaries and people who are not even students going on campus, roughing people up.
That's not free speech. Some of those people, on the other hand, might actually be working for Mossad.
How do we know? This is one of the reasons why they got the masks.
So yeah, I'm all for taking off the masks.
Let's take off the masks.
And let's take the masks off of these different political groups and these different political agendas as well.
Not just their puppets on the ground.
Not just their secret agents.
Not just their paid revolutionaries.
Let's take the mask off of the agenda as well.
Not just these individuals.
Now masks are back on us with a vengeance.
Scarves, Yasser Arafat headdress, all the rest of this stuff.
And, of course, being able to be anonymous, like the internet trolls, even if somebody is there initially to just protest what is going on.
The very fact that they can wear these head coverings, that may make them more aggressive, just like it does people on the internet when they've got anonymity, right?
I think we ought to get rid of masks always, once and for all.
Just like, you know, absolutely cut the funds for people who are engaged in anti-Semitic activity.
Absolutely cut the funds for the universities.
As a matter of fact, cut 100% of the funds for 100% of the universities all the time for all the reasons of what they've been doing.
And especially because it's not even constitutional.
There's no constitutional authority for the federal government to be giving money to private universities or even government universities.
If people want them, let them pay for it.
Or it can be paid for at the state level.
I don't think the federal government should be giving anybody at any university a penny.
But they do it because they want the revolutionary aspect.
They do it because they want the Marxism, the racism, the hatred.
That's why they were doing it.
It's not about educating people.
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Thank you, Marty. He says, let's all move the needle.
Thank you. Yeah, it has, I not talk about it, but getting off to another slow start again this month.
We're just past the halfway mark.
We're not close to it on the gas gauge.
Thank you, Marty. On Rumble, DG8, thank you for the tip.
Don't forget, when it comes to Ohio, Mike DeWine, an absolute tyrant during COVID. Trump recently endorsed DeWine, saying, Mike has never let me down, he will never let you down.
One of the worst, and I always mention, thank you for reminding me of that, I always mention DeWine, one of the most deceptive, sneaky tyrants of them all.
He was a guy who came up with, tell you what, You get the shot, and I'll enter your name into a lottery, and you might win a million dollars.
I said, isn't that the perfect way to explain how the Republicans will approach this versus the Democrats?
Yeah, we'll promise you a gambling lottery here.
And who else was there with DeWine at the same time?
On his COVID committee was Vivek Ramaswamy, Vivek the Snake.
He was there because he wanted to make a lot of money off of track and trace surveillance.
That was the angle. There's always an angle.
Always an angle with these guys.
Many of the mass demonstrators on our campuses have been told, and considering the number who aren't students, it's almost certainly true, many we've been told are paid for their work, not to mention their transportation is paid, their tents are paid for, their food is paid for, all the rest of this stuff. So who is behind them?
Well, we've reported this before.
The Rockefeller Foundation is funding a lot of this stuff.
Soros is funding a lot of it through the Tides Foundation and other things like that.
But the question is also this.
So, who was funding all of this superstitious nonsense about the N95 masks as well?
You know, China, it was such a plan.
China had mass-produced a lot of this stuff.
and a lot of it came preloaded with things that would blow positive on a PCR procedure.
But then we also have agent provocateurs exposed.
This is from the Gray Zone.
You can find it also on Freethought Project.
Agent provocateurs exposed.
Zionists that sparked, multiple ones, that sparked UCLA violence still have not been arrested.
So the Gray Zone has obtained a dossier detailing the identities of the Zionist hooligans who assaulted UCLA anti-genocide student protesters.
It was sent to the LA police if no arrests had been made.
Cops still can't explain why they disappeared for hours during the mob attack.
So again, we understand we've got Soros and the Tides and the Rockefeller Foundation on one side, pushing paid protesters out there, getting violent.
Oh, well, we've got to shut down the First Amendment now.
No, that's not free speech.
That's violence. Then we have, on the other side, we've got Netanyahu, ADL, Southern Poverty Law Center.
These people are perfectly capable, as well, of doing agent provocateurs.
Everybody's wearing masks.
But the solution, regardless of whether the violence and stuff is coming from the left, Soros and these people, whether it's coming from the right, whether it's coming from Netanyahu, the solution is to kill our First Amendment.
Isn't that convenient? Problem, solution.
Problem solved?
No. As I've said many times, if you censor free speech, free speech is not a crime.
The violence is.
We have to be able to separate those things.
If the response is going to be as it was with Mike Johnson to shut down our free speech, then that's the crime.
That's the biggest crime.
That crime that was done by Johnson and the GOP is far bigger than any violence that was done on these campuses.
He did violence to our basic fundamental rights.
He did violence to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution that people have died for.
To give that to us, to preserve that for us.
Johnson and his sycophants to a foreign government Israel did more violence to the Constitution that mattered more than any of the violence that was done on any of these college campuses.
It's just absolutely amazing.
It's still not okay to be white on these college campuses, but you're going to have monitors to look at them, and I hope they shut that thing down.
I hope they shut that down, but I would, you know, just like we're talking about the mask.
Yeah, absolutely. Make it illegal to wear masks, even for health reasons, to shut down these Model State Health Emergency Powers Act, right?
Maybe one of the things that you do.
Say that even if it's for health purposes, you can't have masks.
We need to start removing these things that have been put in place for a very long time to do precisely what was done to us in 2020.
So I'm all for that. I'm all for cutting the funds of these people who are antisemitic.
I'm all for cutting their funds, period.
But again, what is the solution for all this kind of stuff?
Congress is going to still continue funding it.
You might have, if they are discriminating and doing hateful things against people's religion or because of their skin color, because they're white, Jim Jordan might have some hearings and stuff, and then they will write a big check and send it to the colleges anyway.
Nothing is going to happen.
Because, see, there's the biggest masking that's going on.
Is the political masking that is going on.
As Rachel Morrison said, Under the dodgy pretext of reducing the temperature on the planet, or when the campuses were banning right-wing speakers, or when everyone was being forced to comply with their revolution over personal pronoun usage, or when the unvaccinated fellow students were being banned from campus during the COVID-19 fiasco.
But now that the Western establishment from North America to Europe is cracking down on campus protesters demonstrating against Israel's ongoing bombing of Gaza civilians, Then we're suddenly wondering where all of our rights went.
Yeah, where did they go?
Well, I think we know where they went.
So, the NHS, the national health system in the UK, as Daily Skeptic points out, which is inventing all this stuff on face masks.
And we knew that. But there's an organization there that was set up specifically to fight the masking.
They started this organization back in 2020.
They called it Smile Free, the anti-masking campaign group in the UK. If there was one in the United States, I'm not familiar with it.
But what this group is doing is they're still fighting this because the NHS, the government health care system in the UK, is still pushing the masks there on people.
They said we've been fighting the undocumented whims of the unaccountable mask mavens.
People who appear also to feel that legislation aimed at fostering a culture of openness in public life does not apply to them.
You see, the biggest people wearing the masks are these public health officials who are masking the truth.
They're masking the data.
They won't show you the data, just like these climate change people won't show you their data, just like Michael Mann.
And they get away with it.
They went in court.
I was with a group that went after Michael Mann back in 2009, 2010.
Just recently he won a court case against, what's his name, the commentator, a Canadian Anyway, he won a lawsuit against him.
And he used to fill in for Rush, Mark Stein.
And it's amazing.
It's amazing that he could win these things and keep the data masked.
We have public policy.
He says he's got data to support his papers that have been published.
And those papers have been used to create public policy.
And rules for everybody else to follow, and yet we're not allowed to look at his data?
Is that science?
No, it is strong-arming, political strong-arming, and the courts support him on that.
So ever since 2021, the health service, quote-unquote, a portion of the medical industrial complex known as the NHS in the UK and its co-collaborators, the government, flip-flopped on the question of mask efficacy.
We, the public, have been sold the sham that a piece of ill-fitting cloth can insulate us from a respiratory infection.
But what we now know with clarity and certainty...
Is that face masks serve only two purposes.
Number one, as a comforter and a pacifier for the frightened.
Eric Peters used to always talk about that.
You know, it's like Linus with his security blanket, right?
Number two, as a means of creating compliance and conformity amongst those wearing them.
Show your submission. So you got the people who are insecure.
They need a security blanket. Then you got the people who are lording it over us.
You better show me that you're subservient to me.
You wear the mask.
To me, that's just like using their pronouns.
It's like saying two plus two equals five.
I know that they know that it is a lie, and I refuse to wear that lie on my face ever.
The entire shtick of mutual support and care encapsulated in psychological nudgers, weasel words, I wear mine to protect you.
A total lie.
And, of course, that was also a gigantic tell to anybody that could think critically.
But also, if you knew that this was what they would always say about the measles shot, right?
Well, your measles shot doesn't protect you.
It protects other people.
We've got to have this herd immunity thing.
We'd argued against that for years.
That's why when Mike Adams and Alex Jones were selling masks, it's like, what are you doing?
It's like selling measles shots to people.
Which, you know, Trump did in 2019.
You've got to get it. You've got to get the shot.
Don't care about your religious or medical exemptions.
Don't care about logic. You've got to get the shot.
It's going around. Everybody's got to get the shot.
We'd always said, hey, if your shot works, you're fine.
You don't have to worry about it, right?
Isn't it supposed to protect you?
Isn't it supposed to give you immunity?
Well, then if it works, you're fine.
You don't have to worry about me. Well, we can tell people to use this because it's like we dictate to them they've got to wear seatbelts.
Do I wear a seatbelt to protect you in a car accident?
Or is that for me to be protected?
Do motorcyclists wear a motorcycle helmet to protect the people in the cars?
Or to protect other people on their motorcycle or on other motorcycles?
Of course not. It's ridiculous.
During these past three years, Smile Free in the UK has campaigned vigorously against masks.
Twice, in the summers of 2022 and 2023, we wrote open letters to the NHS chief executives of the four home countries.
That would be, you know, England, Scotland, Wales, Ireland.
Co-signed by thousands of doctors, scientists, medical professionals, and members of the public.
And so we asked, this time around, they said, we asked the higher-ups.
To review the measure of local prevalence and assessment of risk rising from respiratory infections.
So they're saying, well, you know, we are assessing the risk and we're determining on a regional basis or whatever what those risks are, and that is what's driving our mask policies.
So they said, okay, here's a freedom of information request.
We'd like to know within your geographical boundaries covered or served by your trust, What were the case numbers for 100,000 people by month?
Again, these are just people that blew a positive on their PCR process.
They're not necessarily sick.
What was the most recent date?
That these mask measures are subject to risk assessment and updated.
What was the latest risk assessment document used to determine it's necessary for you to reintroduce face masks?
What were any and all risk assessments that have been used since March 2020 to determine that it's necessary for you to mandate the wearing of face masks?
Got any data? They refused to comply, of course.
Refused to comply. And very much like what we saw before, you know, the lockdown stuff and the COVID scare pandemic and everything that Trump did.
We had already had, Del Bigtree had, and I think it was in conjunction with RFK Jr., they had filed a lawsuit and they had said, we want to say to our own government, I said, you know, when Fauci gave legal immunity to the vaccine companies in 1986, you were going to set up this vaccine adverse events reporting system, the VAERS, that we've talked about so much now in the interim.
And you were going to look at that to see what was happening, the adverse effects with this, and to make safety recommendations.
So, first of all, we'd like to know what data you have found over the last 34 years, and we'd also like to know what safety recommendations and changes you have suggested to vaccines, because that's the purpose of the VAERS. Well, they refused to comply.
They did a lawsuit, and then finally, they said, we haven't collected any data, really.
We haven't made any recommendations, and we haven't done anything with the data, nothing at all.
And that's what they're doing here with the masks as well.
It's all a bluff. Every bit of it is a bluff.
There's no science. There's no data.
There's no transparency.
Everything is hidden behind a mask.
And answering questions related to the document risk assessments, one of them in Southampton said, well, not held.
Use of face masks would have been reviewed at meetings, but we don't have any record of any of these happening.
Shuffield said, we don't have any formal risk assessment.
And yet, that was the basis of what they were supposed to do.
We've seen a lot of things happen and being reversed lately.
There seems to be a little bit of an opening here momentarily.
We'll see if this continues to go.
But let's take a look at some of the pandemic lies then and now.
And we'll take a look at the Cuomo brothers.
First, Chris Cuomo.
Then and now.
People who are getting, injecting drugs for animals.
Don Lemon. And horse.
And people telling them to.
Oh my God. What person?
You know, you talk about like, you know, cancel culture and who to shame.
Ivermectin? A dewormer?
Really? They are shaming themselves.
No one has to shame them.
They're shaming themselves by doing that.
No, they need to be shamed. They need to be called out and shamed, brother.
I am taking...
What do they call it?
A regular dose?
You know, whatever. They're trying to build up.
Of Ivermectin. Ivermectin was a boogeyman early on in COVID. Yeah, you made it a boogeyman.
That was wrong. We were given bad information about Ivermectin.
The real question is, why?
Yeah, the real question. Why don't you answer that question?
He's just like Tucker Carlson, isn't he?
It's amazing to me how much he's like Tucker Carlson.
Don't worry. I'm sure he'll figure it out as soon as O.J. figures out who the real killer was.
Yeah, well, O.J. is known as the real killer now.
He's gone on to face judgment with that.
But yeah, you know, it's like Tucker Carlson.
Oh, yeah, we couldn't talk about Building 7 or we'd lose our job.
We couldn't talk about this or we'd lose our job.
He was selling those lies.
Now he wants to reinvent himself, just like Tucker Carlson.
And, you know, it's just amazing.
This is why, you look at these guys, yeah, who is it that sold that to us?
And then here is his brother, who was killing people as governor, Andrew Cuomo.
I believe if government would now say, Oh, wait a minute, wait a minute.
I've got to introduce that woman that is sitting there with him.
Okay? She was one of the worst of all of them.
What was her name? Wen.
Something Wen or something. W-E-N. She used to be president of Planned Parenthood, and she was pushing, she was the most authoritarian people on the media.
And so now, let's take a look at this person, one of the people locked up.
Andrew Cuomo, who killed people, killed our only people.
Here's the two of them. Talking about what happened.
And it's just amazing. You know, there's some of us who didn't have to change our story because we weren't liars in the first place.
I believe if government would now say, we just made a finding that there's a new virus and everyone should do X, Y, and Z. The amount of compliance with X, Y, and Z would be much, much lower than it was at the beginning of COVID. Because people do not trust the government.
Don't trust either of you two.
The way they did at the beginning.
And that would be a complicating factor, right?
When you have people who just don't listen.
Because women had no capacity to enforce any of this.
Yeah, right. You must wear a mask.
We didn't do that to anybody.
And people wore masks in New York.
But if they said, I'm not wearing a mask, there was nothing I could do about it.
You must close your private business.
I won't.
Well, there was nothing I could really do about it.
You gave people fines. Voluntary.
And it was extraordinary when you think about it that society acted with that uniformity voluntarily because I had no enforcement capacity.
Yeah, right. So you have a reduced trust in government.
Let's understand that when he says that there's nothing that I could do in the government, what he means by that is, I couldn't use the police to get violent with you.
I couldn't throw you in jail.
I couldn't beat you into submission.
I couldn't arrest you. That type of thing.
But he used the financial aspect.
Massive fines given to people.
Come on, we had people in New York, a lot of them in New York, that resisted this stuff and were shut down, lost their businesses and things like that.
What he's saying is there's nothing I could do about that.
I don't know if the two of them are saying, isn't this a shame?
Don't we need to give ourselves the ability to do violence to people if they don't follow my orders that are wrong?
By the way, her name is Leanna Wynn.
Thank you, Travis, looking that up.
Yeah, Leanna Wynn, W-E-N. And the two of them wanted to do violence to people.
For the very fact that they didn't have that ability, that they could only bankrupt us, cost us our jobs, keep us from traveling, keep us from going to school, keep us from going to church if we applied to that stuff or take penalties against it.
Of course, you know, you look at what happened to the churches that opened up.
A lot of them got massive fines and eventually won.
But still, they tried everything they could.
So to wrap it up here, And this mask, this group in the UK, this smile group, tried to unmask the fraud.
Here's what they found. No systemic risk analysis methodology was applied.
No formal risk assessment was carried out.
No evidence of formal risk management procedures.
No official documentation related to a risk analysis process created.
It wasn't stored. It wasn't updated over time either.
No consideration of scientific evidence on the comparative benefits and harms conferred by masks to their wearers.
But folks, it's even worse than that.
You hear this expression that if somebody makes an extraordinary claim, it requires some extraordinary evidence.
If they make us do extraordinary things that have never been done before, they better have some extraordinary scientific basis for this.
And they better obey the law.
That's the bottom line for this stuff.
All of this was done, and a lot of it was done as a bluff.
And, you know, people who called the bluff of Cuomo said, you don't have the authority to do that.
They paid a price.
Some of them had been vindicated.
But the worst thing that can happen...
It's for us to comply with tyranny.
The worst thing that can happen for society, the worst thing that can happen for our rule of law, and the worst thing that can happen to people individually.
Look at the people who complied and got the shots.
It's just absolutely amazing.
We'll take a quick break, and when we come back, we're going to talk about the pandemic treaty.
Do you realize that it's really already in effect?
I'm afraid so.
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On Rumble, ON61, thank you very much for the tip and kind comment.
Thank you, David, for always keeping it as real as can be.
Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that.
We just need to tell the truth, folks.
And we need to think critically, and we need to call the bluff of these lying politicians and media and doctors, quote-unquote doctors that are out there, rumble, no truth in them.
Can't we just put masks on our cows?
Yeah, yeah, probably put a mask on their face and put a really big one on the back end, right?
Until Bill Gates can create genetically modified cows who don't fart.
Or until we can vaccinate them all so they don't fart, right?
Because, again, there's a vaccine to stop the farts being developed.
Unbelievable. Well, let's talk about the pandemic treaty.
And this article from Technocracy News says, who needs a treaty?
Yeah, who needs a treaty?
actually we don't. They can already impose it. It's already been firmly established here. Very much like what we see with parental rights. Very much like what we see with the Paris Climate Accord for example.
Paris Climate Accord, you know, just, well, it's self-ratified. Trump says, well, I don't know if it applies or not, but he leaves it there for all four years and they continue to build, use it as justification to say they had to do certain things.
So you can either take the approach that the pandemic treaty, they're going to skip over the ratification process and just say, well, it applies to us because we said so.
Or they can have a situation that is kind of like parental rights.
It was 15 years ago.
That I did this piece because already 15 years ago there was tremendous erosion of parental rights.
It was being eroded by courts and by CPS and by other things like that.
Now we see it...
You know, on steroids being eroded by the government schools, but it was already being eroded by the government schools at that point in time as well, but not to the extent that it is now, of course, 15 years ago.
But it was under attack, and it was being eroded by all these different institutions, legal, educational, you name it.
And so it was being, we had a UN Convention on the Rights of the Child, Another one of these documents that the rest of the world had signed on to, but we had not signed on to it in the United States, and yet it was being implemented anyway.
Just like the Paris Climate Accord is being implemented anyway.
And so I just want to play you this little quick one-minute commercial I did for an organization that was trying to get a constitutional amendment to respect parental rights 15 years ago.
If that had been put in, all this nonsense that we're seeing happening in the schools would not be happening.
All this gender gaslighting and hiding pronouns and hiding the grooming of these kids from the parents, that would not be happening.
But we didn't do that.
And so these people have continued, in absence of some legal basis to prohibit this categorically, they have incrementally implemented this.
No government, no matter how well-intentioned, can replace the nurturing love of a parent.
Yet in the United States, judicial activism and a pending UN treaty are poised to tear apart this most fundamental bond of society.
These foreign and domestic threats would undermine the parental role and overrule parental wishes.
All parents would have the legal status of an abusive parent, with the state and not the parents deciding what is in the best interest of the child.
The relentless encroachment of judges and UN treaties that assume that government, not parents, has the best interests of the child at heart, will be stopped by nothing short of a constitutional amendment explicitly stating the rights of parents.
Decisions affecting the child should be made by those who know and love that child, not by a distant bureaucracy.
You can help protect children by helping those who care the most for them and those who care the best for them.
The family. Find out what you can do at parentalrights.org.
Yeah, we need to stand firmly on constitutional amendments that protect our rights.
That's why it bothers me so much to see this being denigrated by people like the House Speaker, a self-professing conservative Christian.
Give me a break.
Yeah, tell us who you're really working for, Johnson.
On Rumble, Sprumford, thank you very much.
That's very generous. I appreciate that.
The COVID scam proved with diabolical clarity the power of the media.
That's why the enemies of Christian society had to gain control of it.
They couldn't have done it without the media.
Absolutely. That's why I say, you know, when you look at censorship and things like that, and propaganda is the other side of it, right?
It's both shutting down their opponents and making sure that they have a propaganda narrative that's loud and the only one that you hear.
It's those two sides of it.
And when you shut down people, you're trying to cover up a crime, and we know what the crime is.
Technocracy seeks to take over the entire planet, says Technocracy News.
The late Rosa Corrie.
Saw sustainable development, also known as technocracy, as, quote, the blueprint, the comprehensive plan of action for the 21st century to inventory and control all land, all water, all plants, all minerals, all animals, all construction, all means of production, all energy, all law enforcement, all health care, all food, all education, all information, and all human beings in the world.
And of course, Rosa Corey was writing that because even when it was still just Agenda 21, it wasn't as detailed and as vague.
It was more vague sometime in the 21st century, but then it got very specific.
We're going to do it by 2030.
We're going to use smart cities and other things like that.
And so it's become very clear.
And this article in Technocracy News points out that it's already in place with One Health.
One Health. And if you look at how One Health came about, created by Rockefeller, funded by the Rockefellers, and then adopted by our own government, actually before it went through the UN, we developed it.
You know, the Rockefellers funded it, and another group organized it.
But it really is coming from us.
And it really is a unified MacGuffin, isn't it?
It draws in...
With environmental alarmism, with health alarmism, and all these other things, to do all of those things, to control every single person, every single thing.
While the UN and its WHO should be kicked out of New York and into the Atlantic Ocean, the real problem is our own government, which has been front-running this whole operation for years, says Technocracy News.
And it's called One Health.
Initially conceived by the World Wildlife Conversation Association in 2004, the One Health Commission was funded by the Rockefeller Foundation in 2009 with the objective of spreading the concept widely, and it worked.
In 2013, the NIH jumped in on it.
They were the first one of these government bureaucracies to jump in on it.
They wrote a study toward proof of concept of a one-health approach to disease prediction and control.
They found the need for greater incorporation of environmental and ecosystem factors into disease assessments and interventions.
Yeah, the unified MacGuffin there.
In 2023, the CDC and HHS... Did a study, a national One Health framework to address zoonotic diseases and advance public health preparedness in the United States, a framework for One Health coordination and collaboration across federal agencies last year.
And they're off to the races.
And so now what we have is an all-of-government approach.
And again, you can say this is the Biden administration, but this is really coming from the NIH back in 2013, and then CDC and the HHS are all getting together and driving this for all of government.
Yeah, Biden is just a figurehead.
This will be happening with Trump in there as well.
So off to the races they went.
And about spreading contagion.
And this is why we're seeing the bird flu stuff here.
You know, you should see Cuomo saying, yeah, people aren't going to go for this.
So what they want to do to vaccinate us is to vaccinate our food.
And they want to control our food.
And they want to make it expensive.
And they want to ban a lot of our food.
Just completely ban it off.
So we have to buy from their crony capitalist friends, like Bill Gates and others, the kind of food, the new kinds of food that we're going to be allowed to eat.
That's what this is all about.
We are tired of being treated like cattle.
And we're not going to be treated like cattle.
And so maybe they can put the mask on our cows, front and back.
Maybe they can vaccinate our cows.
Because they're not going to vaccinate us.
And that's just what two of these tyrants are talking about.
Leanna Wynn and Andrew Cuomo.
Yeah, people aren't going to go for it.
So what do they do? They go for the cattle.
All this herd immunity, nobody's buying it anymore.
So let's actually talk about immunizing the herd.
The herd of cattle.
And all the birds.
And all the pigs. And on and on.
Every animal everywhere vaccinated.
And so according to this commission, the areas that are going to be wrapped into One Health, and I'll just read a few of them because it's comprehensive.
It's everything, and it's even repetitive.
Agricultural production and land use.
Animals. Okay, like I said, it's redundant, some of this stuff.
Biodiversity. Climate change.
Communication and outreach, so they can do propaganda and censorship.
Disease surveillance.
Tracking and tracing and giving IDs and giving IDs to the cattle, right?
Again, we're talking about this.
It's like, oh, you want to do contact tracing on all of us?
Eric Peters put a tag on your ear like a cow.
Well, they're going to literally do the contact tracing on the cows now.
Because at the moment, the humans have had it.
They know they can't do it again.
So they're going to vaccinate us through the food.
They're going to track our food.
Food safety and security.
Natural resources conservation.
Plant and soil health.
Water safety and security.
And welfare. Welfare of animals as well as humans.
Of the ecosystems and the welfare of the planet.
Yeah, it's global. He said basically One Health intends to control all facets of life.
Economics, water, public policy, occupational health risks, agriculture, global trade, commerce, environmental health, ecosystems, communications, climate change, and of course, pandemics and human health.
And he said, and it's a whole of government approach.
He said, you talk about One Health and people see this coming out of, see it, it's in the, it's prominently featured in the preamble to this pandemic treaty.
It's got its own section in the pandemic treaty, but we're there first.
You see, we has met the enemy, as Pogo said, and they is us.
But they is the U.S., as in the USA government.
That's the enemy. The CDC has an entire website devoted to One Health.
One Health is a collaborative, multisectoral, transdisciplinary approach, etc., etc., right?
Every bureaucracy.
And they've got one narrative to control us all.
Sauron. The USDA... And the CDC have their own website for One Health.
The FDA has its own website.
And they're all saying the same thing, essentially.
The EPA has its own website for One Health.
The U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service has hired a One Health coordinator.
We have a whole-of-government approach towards One Health, and all of these unconstitutional, tyrannical, taxation-without-representation, regulation-without-representation agencies, every one of them has bought in to One Health.
And you don't need a treaty for this.
See, we are way ahead.
Everybody's, oh, are they going to impose this UN treaty and this WHO treaty on us?
We're imposing it on them!
We are the seminal point of this satanic world government.
It's coming out of the American government.
It's coming out of the American bureaucracy.
It's coming out of the CIA and DARPA and all these different organizations.
As he said, the UN and the World Health Organization came into this late.
Came into the One Health Party late.
Again, remember, it was the World Wildlife People in 2004 first published it and used that term and everything.
Then Rockefellers funded it five years later, 2009.
Four years later, the NIH adopts it.
And now, after another decade, we've got every agency pretty much in the United States has got a One Health website about all of that.
But when we look at the treaty, the WHO treaty, Chapter 1, Introduction, Article 1, Use of Terms, One Health, right there.
One Health approach means an integrated, unifying approach that aims to sustainably balance and optimize the health of the people, animals, and ecosystems, blah, blah, blah.
Same stuff. Same stuff that's already been put for a long time on our all-of-government bureaucrats' websites.
And he says the meat is seen in Article 5.
Article 5 of this World Health Organization pandemic treaty is 100% about One Health.
And I'm not going to read all the different ones to you because there's a lot of bureaucratic gobbledygook, but you know what's in it.
The parties commit to promote a One Health approach for pandemic prevention, preparedness, response, recognizing the interconnection between people, animals, the environment, blah, blah, blah.
One help, one giant MacGuffin, one unified approach for every conceivable thing that they could push fear for.
Every one of these things.
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Of course, if they were here, they wouldn't let them do anything anyway.
It's not a penny for the border.
But we will pay for, you know, what was it, three and a half billion dollars in the Israel bill to maybe send these people here.
Send those people here. And then pull up, there was another one that you had up there that was, yeah, there we are.
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I think America is.
They've been taken over.
I don't know. There is something here.
We look at it in Revelation where it talks about a statue that then comes to life and speaks and all that kind of stuff.
That's one of the AI robotic things or whatever.
I do think all this artificial intelligence stuff is highly demonic and will be used that way because it's about lies.
It's about deception. Satan's the father of lies.
But while we're talking about liars, let's talk about the debates.
As if they would ever ask them any questions at CNN or ABC that are existential questions, anything that really matters.
As if there would be any debate.
What this is going to be is, I think we should call the first debate Grumpy Old Men, and we should call the second one Grumpier Old Men, just like the movie title and the sequel title for that.
Biden and Trump agreed to presidential debates in June and September, but with some big changes.
There'll be no audience because I guess all the noise would confuse Biden.
Uh, But it is all just like WWE, right?
Let's pick the dates, Donald.
I hear you're free on Wednesdays, because that's the only time that he's not in his hush money trial, right?
And then Trump responds, you're the worst debater I've ever faced.
Just tell me when. I'll be there.
I'm going to smack you down, pal.
And the partisan crowd eats it up.
It is just like professional wrestling.
And of course, both of these guys ran with their tails between their legs from each and every debate, scared to death.
Scared to death.
Trump especially. He counter-programmed it.
He would not show up to any of these debates.
He didn't want to defend his record.
Because he doesn't have any...
He won't talk about his principles or his policies because he doesn't have any.
And anything that he would say that would appeal to his people, a debater, anybody debating him, could easily say, but yeah, you did just the opposite when you're there.
And unless you're going to put Alex Jones in the wings yelling, 40 chests!
It just isn't going to work out for him.
And of course, Biden can barely think, but of course he doesn't have any policies that he can defend either.
Does he want to defend his mandates?
Does he want to defend his wars?
Does he want to defend his economy?
Biden declined to take place in the usual schedule of three general election clashes sponsored by the Commission on Presidential Debates.
By the way, as I said before, the Commission on Presidential Debates is not an independent thing.
It was created by the RNC and the DNC. It is a uniparty thing.
And it was created to make sure there wasn't going to be any Ross Perot, that there wasn't going to be any RFK Jr.
debating them. When I saw this myself 35 years ago, we would go through all these hoops to get on the ballot in North Carolina, and they would say, well, you still can't get in the debate.
And it would have only been three candidates.
There was only three candidates that were qualified on the ballot.
Can't be on the debate.
No. Not going to let you have it.
And yet, you know, when you look at these criteria, you know, are you going to be on the ballot in enough places to get the 270 electoral college votes to win?
Well, if you're on the ballot...
You already have the potential to win.
See, I think that these debates ought to be sacrosanct, like the public square.
Just like the public square, and we said this many times, the censorship should have already been taken care of by the 1946 Marsh v.
Alabama. You had a coal town.
They privately owned that town, and they told somebody who was handing out religious tracts, you can't do that on public property.
We own the public square.
The person took it all the way to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court said in Marsh v.
Alabama that the public square, even if privately owned, cannot be censored.
And I think that they've always used this veneer of private ownership to exclude people out of the debates, just like they use this veneer of private companies to exclude people and viewpoints off of social media.
We would hear, in North Carolina, it wasn't something that was a commission that was put together by the Democrats and Republicans, but it might as well have been.
It was the North Carolina Association of Broadcasters.
It was the media itself.
Radio, TV, and newspapers that supposedly ran the debates.
But, of course, they were doing it at the behest of the Republicans and Democrats.
They would run for office. The first thing they would ask you is, what's your budget?
You're going to pay to play?
Well, if you don't have a budget, I'm not going to even talk to you.
And they wouldn't let you in because they're going to make a lot of money from the Republicans and Democrats.
They want to have these expensive elections where people are spending ever more on these commercials.
They don't want to have a situation where you have a debate...
And people can see without having to pay the money to the media to run commercials.
They don't want to see issues addressed.
They don't want to see issues truly debated.
They don't want to bring up the issues.
Whatever the issues are, they'll always bring up side issues or old issues that they haven't done anything about for many election cycles, but that they've used as wedge issues for many election cycles.
And so they would say, well, sorry, we're not censoring you.
This is a debate that's run by a private organization.
And you see, it's the same pattern that they've used to censor us on social media.
And Biden has not only run from every debate himself, he even got the DNC to shut down primaries.
That's one of the reasons why RFK Jr.
is running as an independent. But you had other people.
You had, I forget what his name was.
He's a congressman. He comes from a super wealthy family.
And he announced his candidacy to oppose Biden.
And so Biden made sure that they would not have anybody but him in Florida and in other places excluded.
Any and all competition from him.
Not only would he not debate them, he would not even allow, he and his DNC would not even allow them to be on a ballot in a primary against him.
This is how afraid these guys are.
It's just like Michael Mann and the climate change stuff, and it's just like the Fauci and the rest of these lying shills.
Who won't debate anything.
They won't let you challenge what they're doing.
They won't show you the data. Biden insisted that a television studio with just the candidates and the moderators only.
It's too scary otherwise.
And that they would have microphones that cut off when the candidates' allotted time is up rather than with an in-person audience because they'd be raucous and disruptive partisans and donors.
He knows that there'd be people who would show up for Trump and not for him.
Nobody cares about him.
He's not going to have any audience that's going to be there.
You better hope these microphones are pretty directional because I think we'll be able to hear Trump shouting if the past is any indication of the future.
I think you'll be able to hear him shouting on Biden's microphone unless it is highly directional.
Trump quibbled with Biden's conditions.
He said he would strongly recommend more than two debates.
And for excitement purposes, a very large venue.
Yeah, because we're talking about wrestling here.
Let's have a big audience.
One reason for circumventing the commission is that even if independent candidate RFK Jr.
reaches 15% in the national polls, Biden and Trump can potentially block him from appearing.
They're trying to exclude me from the debate because they're afraid I would win.
He's absolutely right.
Absolutely right. Trump skipped all five of the GOP debates.
Biden didn't want to debate anybody.
Biden even shut down the primaries.
They are afraid of being challenged.
They're afraid of having to respond to any real thing.
That's why I said, you know, the value of RFK Jr.
is candidacy. I don't support him for presidency, but it would be very valuable to have him in a debate because he would...
He would do things like this.
If you look at the Pfizer vaccine, there were 22,000 people in the placebo group, 22,000 people who got the actual vaccine.
And the people who got the vaccine had a 23% higher death rate from all causes.
Yeah. So, wouldn't it be interesting to see that brought up in a debate?
I'd like to see him say that to the face of these two murdering, democide-pushing presidents.
Say it to their face.
I would like to have seen that.
But we won't. Meanwhile, it took only a couple of hours for Laura Trump Daughter-in-law of Donald, who is now the co-chair of the Republican Party, to say it is rigged.
And she goes on with Sean Hannity, who is very upset that they're not going to have a debate on Fox News, including him.
He spent the first 20 minutes of his Fox News show railing against the debates while demanding changes.
You've got to have no notes, no teleprompters, he said.
And he said, but as this points out here, Mediaite says, Trump had said last month, That he would debate Biden anytime, anyplace, any way you want, Joe.
That's it. That's just wrestling.
Wrestling stuff. Yeah, these guys who are beating their chest now, they ran away from all the fights with everybody else.
Big heroes, aren't they?
They're trying to collude, says Hannity.
You want to talk about collusion?
Talk about the Republicans and Democrats.
Talk about the Presidential Debate Commission.
Talk about, yeah, there's collusion going on.
Always is. That's why I told all these people.
You want to know how they rig the elections?
They start with who's on the ballot.
Then they start with who gets into the debates.
And by that time, it's basically done anyway.
They rig it with the media.
Yeah, they've been rigging these things with the media.
You know, sending all this money in, whether you're talking about vaccines or talking about elections, it's disgusting.
So he says, it's bad enough that they agreed to go on two liberal networks, you know, not Fox.
That's Sean Hannity complaining about all that stuff.
And so RFK Jr.
is saying it is collusion, and it is collusion.
And if they're afraid to openly talk about this, it's like they're censoring him, absolutely.
Absolutely. What are they afraid of?
They're afraid of everything.
They're so vulnerable to anybody who might call them out on this stuff.
Keeping viable candidates off the debate stage undermines democracy, he said.
Yeah, it means that our elections are garbage anyway.
These candidate debates, as I said, any office, anywhere, ought to be considered to be the public square.
And people ought to be allowed, if they're on the ballot, they ought to be allowed in the debate.
And we need to make ballot access a lot more accessible.
Do people understand what Biden did, says one person.
He said he's ditching the debates held by the Bipartisan Debate Commission and creating his own so that he can remove RFK Jr.
who qualifies under the traditional bipartisan rules.
Well, does he? Actually, you could make a case that he might actually be able to qualify on this.
They have a pretty high bar.
You have to have 15% in four high-quality national polls, and you have to be on the ballot in enough states to have a shot at the 270 electoral college votes to be able to win.
Well, I think he might be able to make both of those.
Now, he's been pretty close or above that 15% situation.
I think he's been above it at one point in the past.
And when it comes to ballot access, he's still working on that, but he's on the ballot now in 14 states.
And as best I can see, I saw a list of 11 of the states.
So there's another three states besides that.
But with just those 11 states, I totaled up that he's got 174 electoral votes that he could possibly win.
He has to be on enough states to be able to theoretically achieve 270 electoral college votes.
He's on enough now to get more than 174.
But a Biden advisor told Axios, our criteria for a one-to-one debate was made clear publicly.
It was made clear to CNN. They understood our position when we accepted the offer.
So they don't want... There to be any change in any of this.
But CNN told Axios, the candidates just need to meet the qualifications laid out in the release.
At this time, only Biden and Trump have qualified.
But Biden wants it to be only one-on-one.
So does Trump.
And we know why.
So it would be interesting to have RFK say something like that.
And say it right to their faces.
But then the other issue that they've got is, you know, this long trial.
That's going on in New York.
It really is to portray Trump, perhaps very accurately, as a morally degenerate playboy, which I think he spent most of his life trying to cultivate that issue and putting himself on the cover of an issue of Playboy, as a matter of fact.
His allies, however, say, well, what we're going to do is have him get in front to counteract that Since it appears that they're not going to throw him in jail, because to throw him in jail would just be to give him an express ticket to the presidency.
So that would blow back big time on them.
So what can Trump do?
Since he's been goading the judge to throw him into jail, I don't think they're going to take the bait.
So if they don't throw him in jail, what can he do to repair his public image?
Well, the Republicans are going to start doubling down on their fight against pornography.
And so you've got the Heritage Foundation, you've got several different states that are out there saying, we're going to require for you to go to a porn site, you're going to have to have ID. ID to use the internet is really where this is going, and we see this coming in multiple ways from the GOP, where they say, well, these people coming across the border, they're going to take your jobs, or they're going to vote, or whatever.
So we need to have everybody, and we should have ID in order to vote.
I don't think we ought to have ID and government permission, however, to have a job.
I don't think we should have to have an ID and government permission to use the internet.
And there are other ways to handle pornography.
Just like the war on drugs, they're taking a spiritual problem and they're trying to fix it with law enforcement.
And it isn't going to work.
It hasn't worked for 50 years with the war on drugs.
That is a spiritual problem.
And you're not going to fix it with law enforcement.
Pornography is a spiritual problem.
And you're not going to fix it with this ID. But you may wind up setting up a situation where they can more accurately monitor everybody.
As CNN says, at first glance, Trump appears to be an unlikely champion for cracking down on the adult entertainment industry.
Let's understand, it's not adult entertainment.
This is an adulterated view of sex.
You know, when you have adulterated products like the jabs, you know, adulterated with junk DNA and simian virus 40 and all the rest of this kind of stuff.
Well, you know, the pornography stuff and the so-called adult entertainment is adulterated.
It's adulterated sex.
It's sex that's contaminated with all this garbage that's there.
Instead of the real thing.
And so, that's one of the other issues.
This isn't something that is really adult.
During his 2016 race, he proudly displayed the issue of Playboy magazine, which featured him on the cover.
But Heritage President Kevin Roberts is unconcerned by Trump's past.
He likened it to the parable of the prodigal son, a New Testament teaching about paternal forgiveness granted to a man who squanders his father's fortune with indulgences.
We understand our Lord works with imperfect instruments, including us, said Kevin Roberts on CNN. He said, while on the surface it seems like a contradiction, on the whole it may make him a more powerful messenger if he embraces it.
Well, see, here's where the analogy of the prodigal son breaks down.
Yes, the point is that the father is more than willing to forgive the son who comes back to him, who changes his ways.
But you notice that the father did not go seek out the son who was living in a pigsty and hanging out with prostitutes or whatever.
He didn't go seek him out.
The son returned and was accepted.
And so the question is, Is Trump going to change his ways?
Does Trump ever need forgiveness?
Evidently, he doesn't think he does.
One more, because you used the word Christian.
Have you ever asked God for forgiveness?
That's a tough question. I don't think in terms of...
I'm a religious person.
Shockingly, because people are so shocked when they find this out.
I'm Protestant. I'm Presbyterian.
And I go to church and I love God and I love my church.
And Norman Vincent Peale, the great Norman Vincent Peale was my pastor.
The power of positive thinking.
Everybody's heard of Norman Vincent Peale.
He was so great. He would give a sermon.
You never wanted to leave.
Sometimes we have sermons and every once in a while we think about leaving a little early, right?
Even though we're Christian. Dr.
Norman Vincent Peelfrank would give a sermon.
I'm telling you, I still remember his sermons.
It was unbelievable. And what he would do is he'd bring real-life situations, modern-day situations, into the sermon.
And you could listen to him all day long.
When you left the church, you were disappointed that it was over.
He was the greatest guy.
And then, you know, he passed away, but he was a great...
He wrote The Power of Positive Thinking, which is a great book.
But have you ever asked God for forgiveness?
Can you answer the question?
I'm not sure I have. I just go and try and do a better job from there.
I don't think so. I think if I do something wrong, I think I just try and make it right.
I don't bring God into that picture.
I don't. Doesn't need forgiveness.
And when I drink my little wine, which is about the only wine I drink, and have my little cracker, I guess that's a form of asking for forgiveness.
And I do that as often as possible because I feel cleansed, okay?
But, you know, to me that's important.
I do that. But in terms of officially, I see I could say absolutely.
And everybody, I don't think in terms of that.
I think in terms of let's go on and let's make it right.
So let's...
When you said that you'd never ask God for forgiveness, do you regret making that remark?
No, I have great relationship with God.
I have great relationship with the evangelicals.
In fact, nationwide, I'm up by a lot.
I'm leading everybody.
But I like to be good.
I don't like to have to ask for forgiveness.
And I am good. I don't do a lot of things that are bad.
I try and do nothing that's bad.
The life you have now, when you say that you try to do good, That sounds very different from decades of tabloid media coverage in New York in which Some of your wilder escapades were...
Well, I'm talking about over the last number of years.
I've been, you know, I mean, I'm leading a very good life.
I try to lead a good life, and I have.
And frankly, the reason I'm doing so well in Iowa and leading the polls, including the CNN poll, where I'm 33 to 20 in Iowa, that's...
And by the way, one of the things that I didn't like that Ted Cruz did last night, he said, oh, he's doing so well in the polls...
Yeah. He always turns it back to politics, doesn't he?
Always turns it back to himself.
He doesn't believe that he needs any forgiveness from God.
You know when King David committed adultery and then killed Bathsheba's husband?
What did he say?
He said to God, against you and you only have I sinned.
It wasn't horizontal. He understood that he had rebelled against God's rules.
And even in the smallest ways, but especially when there's large public sin like that, he says, I don't need to have any forgiveness.
He doesn't understand the gospel at all.
Our relationship with God is not based on some famous person that you knew, like Norman Vincent Peale, who, by the way, also rejected the gospel.
He was one of the first of the prosperity gospel people.
He said, yeah, there's multiple paths to God.
Well, that's not what Jesus says.
Norman Vincent Peale may have been associated with the Presbyterian Church, but he completely disassociated himself from Jesus, who said, I am the only way.
He said, no man comes to the Father but by me.
That's not what Norman Vincent Peale said.
Norman Vincent Peale was all about your success and your wealth, and that's why it appealed to people like Trump and his parents.
And it's why Trump has Paula White, who has followed in the footsteps of Norman Vincent Peale in the prosperity gospel.
Prosperity gospel is not good news at all.
So the good news is that even though we have sinned, if we understand that we have sinned, we can ask God, and he will forgive us like the prodigal son's father.
But as Jesus said, he didn't come for the people who are well.
He came to heal the sick.
You have to see your sickness.
You have to see your rebellion against God.
And then if you do, there is free grace and free healing for those people who turn from that and who ask for forgiveness.
But if you think that you can earn your way, By, well, I'm just going to, I'm going to make sure that the good outweighs the bad.
And look at this, you know, Trump's going to stand before God someday and say, but look at how many people voted for me.
Look at how many people love me.
Doesn't matter. That's why I said, I saw that clip, and for the first time I felt sorry for Trump.
He stands condemned for eternity before God.
If he refuses to look for forgiveness.
That's the good news. You have to understand the bad news.
That all of us have sinned.
All of us need God's forgiveness.
It's not all of us except for Donald Trump.
All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.
All of us need God's forgiveness through Christ.
And if you're not asking for it, you won't get it.
It's just that simple.
And so it is very, very strange.
And so now this is going to be the guy that is increasingly put up as a religious leader.
And I play that because we all need to understand where our position is before God.
And make sure that none of us think that we are going to, because of our church membership, or because, as the other places point out, well, I go all the big days.
I go on Christmas, and I go on Easter, and I'm a member of the Presbyterian Church, and I've talked personally to Norman Vincent Peale and all the rest of this stuff.
None of that matters. What are you trusting in?
Are you trusting in Christ or are you trusting in your own righteousness?
Are you trusting in your own works?
None of that is going to matter.
And then when we look at this banning of pornography, none of that is going to matter either.
This is going to be used in an insidious way to control people and to spy on people.
Ten states have moved to force adulterated websites to verify the age of their users.
And yet these websites...
Or saying, well, something needs to be done by, you know, I don't need to fix this.
It needs to be fixed by Apple, Google, who have the phones.
Or it needs to be fixed by the parents.
And they're right, in a sense.
I think that really, I mean, you know, I would love to see the porn websites go away, but hey, that's wishful thinking.
And if it does go away, Hollywood is there as well.
I just got to say, when we had video stores, Karen and I, when we became Christians, we had some adult tapes.
Not a lot. We had some, and I'm not excusing having any at all, but we had some Playboy things that were out there as well.
And we just took all that stuff one night and threw it in the garbage.
All of it. All six stores.
There's a lot of stuff we threw in the garbage.
The next day we get calls from our store managers.
What? Did we get robbed last night?
What's going on? It's like all this stuff has gone off the shelves.
And so it was like this soft core Playboy stuff that we took off the shelves.
It was noticeable. And, you know, we just said, well, you know, we just decided to get out of that.
And then as we looked at it, I started looking at the stuff that was coming from Hollywood.
It's like, oh, you know, a lot of this stuff in these R-rated films is even worse.
What am I doing in this business at all?
And we got out of the business.
And, you know, the good thing is that God is always there to forgive us when we turn back to him from the pigsties.
And that's something that we, each of us, have to do in some area of our life.
There isn't anything that makes that worth it.
And, you know, just as a side note, when we sold the business and then this guy ripped us off and got involved in this, trying to take it back as creditors because he wasn't paying us anything.
And we should have just let it go, I think.
It did get taken away from us anyway.
I think that was to teach us a lesson.
And then as a final lesson, you know, because there were consequences for David's sin, wasn't there?
King David. You know, God forgave him, but he had his first son died.
But then he had Solomon, he had other sons, and then his first son with Bathsheba.
But then God said, the sword will never depart from your household.
You'll always have civil war within your household.
Well, you know, when we looked at that, the consequences for that were economic for us.
And then when the bankruptcy court took control from this other guy who was scamming everybody, including the bankruptcy court.
That's a long story.
Long, involved story.
But when it took it back from him and the bankruptcy trustee Put it there for liquidators to come in and liquidate the stuff.
What they did is they took all the new releases and they sold them to other video stores online as part of that network.
People buy videos that were fairly new, only a couple of months old or something like that.
But they brought in all kinds of garbage.
And for the most part, they just turned the place into a porn store.
And it was so humiliating because people were saying, I didn't know you carried all this pornography and stuff.
Well, we didn't. They brought it in, you know.
But it was, you know, it really, you know, and I just took it as God humbling us because of what we had done.
But, you know, we understand that that's what happens.
And there is grace in that.
And it would be a humbling thing for Trump to do that.
But he can't admit his need for God and for God's forgiveness.
If Trump chooses to embrace this, it wouldn't be the first time even.
The GOP platform, when he was first nominated in 2016, said, pornography is destroying the lives of millions.
And that's true. It is an addiction.
Just yesterday, J. Warner Wallace was saying, you know, there's three things.
Power, money, and sex.
They were the common thing in these 15 murders that he talks about in his book.
It's always those things.
Some variation, combination of those things.
Always there. It does destroy the lives of millions of people.
It keeps them from having the best life that they could as well.
You want to prosper?
It's not about the money.
It's about getting rid of these things that enslave you.
That same year, Trump signed a pledge that he would consider a presidential commission to examine the public health impact of internet pornography on youth, on families, and on the American culture.
Do we have our guests yet?
Okay, good. All right, well then what we're going to do is we're going to establish contact with Christina.
This is Christina who did the documentary Kidnap and Kill.
She's working on it, still in progress.
There is a trailer for it.
I'll play you the trailer as we establish contact with her.
And I talked about this yesterday, and I wanted to get her on to talk a little bit more about it and to give us an update on this documentary, a very important documentary that shows how the FBI entraps people, and then how her experience now is showing how people who oppose the power structure are increasingly getting debanked.
And she had the Bank of America kick her off.
But we want to get an update on the documentary, what is going on with the defendants, because there have been some developments about that, and then talk about the film as well.
So here's the trailer for Kidnap and Kill.
Earlier today, Attorney General Dana Nessel was joined by officials from the Department of Justice and the FBI to announce state and federal charges against 13 members of two militia groups who are preparing to kidnap and possibly kill me.
We're grateful to the FBI and law enforcement to discover these domestic terrorism and stop them.
You know, it's a sort of behavior you might expect from ISIS. You might see a number that high in a sprawling narcotics conspiracy that stretches from coast to coast and beyond.
That's a pretty high number in a case like this.
It really reflects, I think, how deeply the government has been diving into this investigation to try to make these cases.
It was just literally a bunch of working class guys who, on the weekend, got together and, you know, exercised their rights and trained with firearms.
So, the FBI says, hey, we'll just pay for everything.
Who arranged the meeting?
The FBI's paid provocateur.
Robeson was getting paid to set this stuff up.
So they make the route, they set the locations, they make the plan, they do everything, and Adam's literally just sitting in the basement of vacuum repair shops smoking blondes all day.
You're gonna hear! But I think you're also going to hear that there was an election held to identify the leader, and it was Dan.
How can I frame a social situation to make this naive person appear to be a dangerous, violent terrorist?
The whole goal was for the FBI to spend millions of dollars to create militia groups, record them saying offensive stuff, and then frame them in a fake conspiracy.
As you can see, kandkfilm.com is where you can find that trailer and where you'll eventually be able to find this documentary that our guest Christina is working on.
Thank you for joining us, Christina. Thank you for having me.
I wanted to get an update as to what happened with Bank of America and your debanking.
Let's talk about there's been some changes in some of these cases that are there, because they're still ongoing.
And so we've had some people that have been acquitted, but some others are in jail, and there's other cases that are being appealed.
And so we'll do an update on that, and then we'll get an update on your documentary.
But let's talk first about the debanking at Bank of America.
Tell us what the current status is of that.
Well, it's just a mess.
I don't even know what the current status of it is because I keep getting conflicting information from them.
But what happened was like five days ago, I noticed my bank card stopped working.
So like nobody called me.
The bank did not reach out to me.
Nobody told me they were going to be terminating the account.
They just did it.
And so, I noticed my bank card wasn't working, so then I tried to log into my online banking, and I could not log in through mobile banking.
It said my username didn't exist, and then it was prompting me to create a new one, but that wasn't working either.
And I'm like, what is going on?
So I'm thinking there's a technical glitch or something.
So I actually...
I went into my physical branch location to ask them what was going on to see if they could figure it out.
And the girl at the front desk told me that the risk department had decided to sever the business relationship.
And she didn't know why.
And of course, like the...
I don't blame the bank employees.
I don't think that woman in that location knew anything about this.
These decisions are obviously being made by higher ups at the bank.
So she puts me in this cubicle and says, here's a phone and puts me on the phone with the risk department.
And I'm trying to get some kind of answers, because I've had this account for almost 10 years.
I've never had any issues with the account with Bank of America before, so I'm trying to ask them, like, well, why was this decision made?
How come nobody called me?
You know, what's the problem?
They wouldn't tell me.
They were saying these canned responses that are, like, Bank of America's terms of service say that we reserve the right to sever the business relationship at any time without reason or notice.
So they just say you agree to the terms of service, and so they don't have to give you a reason.
And I said, okay, well, can you tell me what the current balance of my account is?
Because I had deposited checks.
That's the other thing. I was physically in the bank a few days ago to make deposits and And nobody said anything to me then.
So I'm waiting for checks to clear.
And I go, well, can you tell me the balance?
They would not tell me the balance of my account.
I can't log in to see it.
I can't see my transaction history.
And so there's like no answers.
And they made it clear that they weren't going to give me any.
So I go, okay.
I leave the bank.
I go home. I call again.
I try to get somebody else from the risk department that maybe can give me more answers on the phone.
And I'm on the phone with them for five minutes.
They are refusing to tell me any more information other than they're terminating the account.
And I said, can you transfer me to a media liaison?
You know, transfer me to your media department.
I myself am a journalist, so I'd like to get a quote from your media department about your corporate policies.
And if this is part of them, they told me they couldn't transfer me to a media department or a media rep, which I think is a little bit ridiculous.
So they were they made clear to in that phone call that they were not going to restore the account and that they weren't going to give me any information.
So I had the presence of mind to record when I was in the branch location talking to the woman there.
So I put a thread up on Twitter just telling people, warning people, if you are in Bank of America, get your money out of the banks.
It's not safe with these banks because this is what can happen to you.
And I posted the video.
I had no idea it was going to go viral the way that it did.
And everybody was tagging Bank of America online.
And that must have stirred something up with Bank of America because...
phone in the evening and telling me that executives were investigating and other parties were investigating and I said, well, is law enforcement investigating?
And they said no.
And then they told me that the account had been restored, but it's not restored as far as I can tell.
I still have no access to online.
I can't log in to online banking and it says my account is locked.
So I don't believe they restored the account.
I think they told me that because I think they wanted the pressure to...
Go away for them.
But as far as I'm concerned, as far as I know right now, I still can't see my account.
I still can't see my transaction history.
I can't see the current amount I have in there and I cannot access my funds.
Now, they also told me when I was in the physical branch location and I was on the phone with the risk department and asking them, well, you know, can you tell me my account balance?
They're saying no. And then I said, okay, well, if you're going to make this decision to terminate my account without notice, can I withdraw the funds I have in there now and then just go to a different bank?
They said no. They were going to hold the funds hostage and that I would receive a, quote, check in the mail, but they would not give me a timeframe of when I could expect this.
And for people who are, you know, small businesses...
Independent journalists, filmmakers, every bit matters and counts.
I have a shoot coming up in less than two weeks where I have an additional crew member I have to pay.
I am counting on my funds to come through.
So having something like that happen, not just to me, but to anybody, it causes a lot of disruptions.
Another interesting thing about this is that they chose to do it Right after I'd publicly announced that I was going to be making another trip, because a lot of people have supported the film.
You know, the whole film has been done through crowdfunding.
So I let people know.
I give them updates on the progress and status of, like, what I'm doing.
So I told people I was going to be doing this.
And they also did it the day before a bunch of my auto pays go through.
So I'm getting emails about payments being declined, which is still happening, by the way.
They claim that they restored the account.
I'm still having payments being declined.
So again, this is not true.
Nothing they're telling me makes any sense or is adding up at all.
And so this is where we stand today.
Well, this is going to be your next documentary, because this is something that's happening a lot.
As I talked about it yesterday, you know, Nigel Farage, he had that same type of situation, and they denied that they had debanked him and everything, but more investigations.
They eventually got a hold of some internal emails, and it turned out that the CEO of a bank that was partially owned by the government itself had said, we're going to shut this down.
Wow. Everywhere.
You know, with Nigel Farage, we've seen John Eastman also got his account at Bank of America shut down.
He was a lawyer for Trump.
And he had a second account at USAA, which is, you know, for people in the military.
Can open up an account there if they've been in the military.
And they both shut down his account.
We're seeing this debanking being used for political purposes increasingly.
I myself have had a problem with it.
I talked about it yesterday. After I had this show for five months.
PayPal shut it down. I spent two hours on the phone.
I wish I had recorded it.
But, you know, the guy kept digging and digging.
It's very helpful. But he said, the only thing I can find is I got one message, delete this account immediately.
And they shut down PayPal and Venmo immediately.
And like you, I had a lot of people trying to send me payments and they were being declined.
It's like, what's going on? Where'd you go?
That type of thing. Yeah, yeah.
And this is, I mean, this is incredibly disruptive.
It starts with people like Dr.
John Eastman, like you said, Trump's lawyer, who arguably is somebody who's way more important than me, small-time filmmaker that most people don't know of and haven't heard of.
So if they can do this to me, it's just a matter of time before they start doing it to regular people.
And that is incredibly concerning because I happen to be very lucky.
I am a small, independent filmmaker, but I happen to be well-respected.
And I have a lot of peers who know about me and support my work across the board.
So I was lucky that I had enough people that could amplify this on social media.
If you don't have the privilege of having a semi-public platform and you're just a regular person and they decide to do this to you for your politics, you don't have recourse.
You don't have the ability to cause a social media storm to get executives to call you and tell you they're investigating what happened.
That for normal people, no, they would be in a position where they couldn't access their money, they couldn't see their account balance, couldn't access their transaction history and would be told to wait for a quote check in the mail.
At a time where inflation is through the roof, most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and are one medical emergency away from homelessness.
They want you to wait for your own money and they're not going to give you a time frame of when you can receive this check in the mail.
Then there's also the issue of So what do you do during that time?
Do you wait? However long it takes for them to send you your money and in the meantime your bills are just not being paid or you have to pay them with credit cards and run up credit card debt.
This is not acceptable in America.
Banking has gotten to the point, like social media, where it is ubiquitous and it's essentially like a utility now.
You can't get through your daily life without having a bank account and being able to conduct transactions.
And so they cannot get away with doing this, and we can't allow it.
Also, an interesting thing, 15 attorney generals have written a letter to Bank of America demanding explanations for what they're doing with debanking conservatives and dissidents.
My attorney general for my state of Virginia, Jason Miorkas, is one of the attorney generals who signed on to that.
So I'm hoping and I'm trying to reach out to his office because I think that if somebody does some digging in Bank of America's internal communications, they're going to find something where my account specifically was flagged. And I believe it's because of the work I'm doing on this documentary. And I think that's what it was.
Oh, absolutely. And we've seen this before, as I pointed out yesterday, Bank of America in terms of turning over all kinds of information about all their customers who are doing transactions in and around Washington on January the 6th. They had colluded with the FBI. The FBI can ask them for anything they want. And they take the position just like they do with phone companies that that's their data.
And if they want to voluntarily turn it over, the FBI doesn't need to have a search warrant.
And so Bank of America worked with them.
And the reason they're doing this is because Bank of America, like all of these too big to fail banks, are highly connected to the federal government.
And, of course, they were creatures of the federal government.
Bank of America kicked off all these mergers that created a handful of banks that were too big to fail 10 years later.
At the same time that Clinton took out...
Americans failed out! We bailed them out, and then they want to debank us.
Yeah, that's right. I don't think so.
Yeah, but that's the political collusion that they have there.
They approved that merger in spite of the fact they knew they were going to wind up with about a half dozen banks that were too big to fail.
They approved that, and then they removed the restrictions on getting involved in speculative investment.
That's why these banks could then go in and buy up...
Like Bank of America did Merrill Lynch and things like that.
They removed the Glass-Steagall Act.
They allowed these big bank mergers.
And here's where it's all going to go, Christina.
You know when we look at this and the politicization of this and how rapidly this is all seized This is a preview of what's in it for everybody with CBDC This is the way they're going to do with it once they get CBDC. Oh, well you wrote this post on on Social media and they noticed it all of a sudden now everything is locked you're locked out of everything And that's what they can do once they get to a completely digitized central bank digital currency
They can shut everybody down just like they've done you you just outlined some of the immediate things that you're going to be facing But you know that check presumably is in the mail, but in the meantime. It's a tremendous hassle for you Presumably they'll send it you know, but if we got CBDC they just shut you down and leave it that way And there's nothing you're going to do about it.
This is why people need to rise up against CBDC. We need to rise up against what is happening with these big banks like Bank of America.
But this is where it's ultimately going, and it's going there for everybody.
The social credit system like we see in China and the debanking.
Absolutely. That's, I think, what's even more concerning is how quickly I think that we are moving into that new financial system.
I think also, and this is just my speculation, so I'll just say that as a caveat, I believe they're purposely going to crash the economy.
I think they're doing it now on purpose.
Yeah. They're allowing the regional bank crisis to get worse.
I think they want that because when the regional banks fail, they'll once again come in to consolidate power and to say, because this happened, now we need a new system.
We need the CBDC. We need a great reset, a new reset, right?
We're going to reset the financial system.
That's what it's going to be.
And that to me is terrifying because...
That means in the future, they can, like you said, shut you down overnight and you will not have any recourse.
Another weird thing they were asking me to when I was on the phone with them is they were asking me about...
Like, checks I had been depositing, and they're asking me about my transactions, things that, frankly, isn't their business.
They're like, you know, I obviously receive donations from people, so people send donations from all over the world.
I don't know who's sending them, but they were asking me, do you know who sent this check?
Were you expecting this?
Do you know what this was for?
And things like this, and I'm going...
What does it matter whose business is this of yours and they were saying well there could be fraud not on your part But on other and it's like well isn't it your job then to investigate that and do the due diligence You're the financial institution not me No, and it was just really weird And I it seems to me like they're looking for an explanation And an excuse for what they did to try to say they didn't debank me to try to lie about what happened and say oh
Oh no, there could have been fraud and it just flagged our system and was a mistake.
It was not a mistake.
When I went into the bank, nobody said anything to me about potential fraud or a red flag on the account.
No, they just said the risk department decided to terminate the business relationship.
But now the story has changed since they got all this flack on social media.
And conveniently also today, or it was yesterday, their response is due to those 15 attorney generals.
They're supposed to reply to the letter about specifically what they are doing, debanking and dissidents and the attorney general were asking them to change their terms of service to explicitly state Bank of America does not discriminate against people for religious or political reasons.
I doubt they're going to make that change to the terms of service.
So we'll see what happens, but interesting timing.
Yeah, they have friends in high places that will make sure they don't get punished for that.
I mean, they have been selected as partners in all of this stuff.
And when we look at all of this cancel culture directed at people for what they say on social media, you know, they can kick you off of social media and life goes on.
And it goes on even if you've got a media company or something like that.
It goes on without even being on social media.
But when they weaponize the financial system against us, as they have made all indications they intend to do in a Chinese-style system, that's where it's going to be untenable for people.
And that's where the screws really come in.
And so that's what we really have to be concerned about.
And again, you're at the very front of this.
Let's give give us an update as to what's going on with these particular cases because there has been some changes in the cases of Barry Croft Adam Fox were convicted back in August of 2022 Yeah, so we do have what I will say I at least think it's good news So we just had oral arguments on Adam and Barry's appeals at the Sixth Circuit and throw in front of a three judge panel
That the oral arguments I believe went well.
The defense got 10 minutes each, the government got 20 minutes, and it was really interesting listening to the judges on the Sixth Circuit ask Nils Kessler, the The government was basically preventing all of this exculpatory information from the defense to be included.
And one of it gets into the statements made by the informants that were incriminating for them.
The government was able to keep a number of informants completely off the stand.
One of them was their main pedophile informant, Steve Robeson.
He was a key architect of the plot, maybe even the We're good to go.
So the government argued that anything that informant said on audio would be hearsay, and that the jury wouldn't get to hear it.
Well, all of the audio that we have, and the defense did, by the way, they filed a motion.
It was called out-of-court statements that they wanted to bring in.
It was essentially all the things that were exculpatory in nature for the defense.
There's a whole list of individual statements, text messages they wanted to get in in front of the jury.
And the judge denied that motion with this bogus blanket hearsay ruling across the board.
And he stuck to that at the retrial of Adam and Barry, because remember, the first trial ended in zero convictions, two acquittals, and a mistrial on Adam and Barry.
So they retried them.
And then there were a number of other issues with the retrial as well that were also talked about at oral argument, one being an issue with potential juror misconduct.
There was a juror on the jury in the retrial of Adam and Barry who allegedly, according to three different witnesses at his work when he received the jury summons, he said, oh, I hope I get on the Whitmer case.
I'm going to hang those guys.
Those were his exact words.
And this was according to three different people.
Mid-trial, the defense lawyers brought this to Judge Unker's attention.
They had their private investigator find other cooperating witnesses, and the judge did not hold a proper, what is called a Remer hearing, where the defense could interrogate the juror and ask him, did you say this?
What the judge did, and this is highly unusual, is he brings the juror and the government in closed chambers without defense lawyers being there.
And he says, I don't have any video of you saying this, and you're not under oath, but But there are allegations, you said this, did you say it?
And the juror does not deny saying it.
He does not explicitly deny it.
He goes, I don't remember, I don't think I did.
Well, the judge goes, oh, okay, and then just allows him to continue on.
Now when it comes to things like impropriety in these trials, especially one that is high stakes like this, there's not even supposed to be the appearance of impropriety.
So even the appearance of misconduct by a juror should have gotten that juror removed in an alternate, put in his place.
It's also interesting that that juror went on to be the foreman of the jury.
Wow. Wow. Wow. One of the guys that took a plea deal, Caleb Franks, at the retrial of Adam and Barry, the government limited their cross-examination by the defense to 25 minutes, but the prosecutors had an unlimited time with Caleb Franks, So they could spend 50 minutes with their direct and then when it went to the defense to cross examine him, they got 25 minutes. And when it got down to
the last few minutes, Judge Anker starts doing a physical countdown. You have two minutes left. Are you really going to waste your time with this crap line of questioning? And he starts disparaging them. And he's only doing this to the defense, not the government.
So it's very clear. And he's doing this in front of the jury.
It's clear to the jury who the judge favors, what side the judge favors.
So this is completely inappropriate.
This is not a fair trial.
It is a kangaroo court.
So those were the issues brought up on oral argument.
And the main one, though, being the hearsay stuff, because the judges on the Sixth Circuit, the three-judge panel, asked if The appeals lawyers for Adam and Barry, well, what would you like us to do?
You know, they said we'd like a new trial where we can actually admit evidence and call witnesses, you know, like what you're supposed to have.
So they go, okay, that's...
I think that's where we're going.
What are you talking about?
I've got the binder here.
They filed an entire thing filled with all of these.
These are all statements that they wanted to get in.
These are all things Steve Robeson said where he's directing a man named Frank Butler from Virginia to start a quick reaction force.
He's trying to get him to kidnap and kill Ralph Northam.
That's why we have the text message from the handling agent Jason Chambers saying the mission is to kill the governor specifically.
That was about Ralph Northam and a separate thing they were doing while they were doing the Whitmer hoax because they really wanted it to be a multi-state plot.
And you'll hear more about that in the documentary there.
That's amazing. You know, I've seen this type of thing as well in all the cases that I've looked at in detail.
You go back and you look at the Bundy Ranch, for example.
the amount of exculpatory evidence that they ruled out and they did that and got some convictions early on but before the conclusion In terms of coming after Amin Bundy and some of the others they had a whistleblower from the Bureau of Land Management and it's because of that whistleblower coming forward that they didn't get convictions on everything because they Ruled out and excluded all kinds of exculpatory evidence I saw the same thing with Ross Ulbricht in the Silk Road trial. He's serving three consecutive life sentences
He'll never get parole and the reason is is that after they convicted him the prosecutor and and When they were doing the the sentencing they said well, you know, he put out this murder for hire Thing and he was never even indicted let alone found guilty of that That was just something that was thrown out to the media.
And they kept the fact that there were FBI agents who were running Silk Road.
And currently, as his trial was going on, these two FBI agents were on trial themselves for embezzling money out of Silk Road.
Anything that they applied to him could have been applied to the FBI agents that were doing it.
And they kept that away from the jury that these guys had all the keys to the website and were embezzling money and were on trial themselves for that type of thing.
So it is amazing how the justice system is rigged.
And when you look at any of these trials, it's just amazing how they exclude all this evidence that would clearly show that somebody is innocent.
Yeah, and I like to remind people we have a legal system, not a justice system.
That's right. It's a legal system, which is designed, of course, to bring in money and, you know, to punish people that the government doesn't like.
And the entire thing is, like most of these judges are former prosecutors, like the government has every advantage, even though they have...
Almost unlimited resources, and the people they're up against are borderline indigent, for the most part.
Like, in the Whitmer case, certainly, where those guys were reliant on public defenders, and I believe that they didn't think it was going to go to trial.
I think they believed they were going to arrest these guys and do this shock and awe thing of, like...
You're facing life in prison.
We've got a 99% conviction rate.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. You know, they do these scare tactics.
And a lot of times public defenders will work with the prosecutors in this way because they have a big caseload.
They encourage often their clients to take plea deals for something they didn't do.
That's right. We're good to go.
It's a scam up and down.
Just the justice system.
And that's not how it is at all.
Once you really experience it, you go, oh, this is like a Ponzi scheme, basically.
You know, they have these court appointed guardians ad litem.
They have all these things.
They're just there to make money and not to help people but destroy them.
And as you point out, most people won't go to trial.
I don't know whether it's something like 93% or whatever.
Just plea out and take a deal.
Because the thing is so rigged.
And because we don't have independently thinking juries.
We don't have jury nullification.
The judges tell them, no, you can't do that.
Sometimes specifically, they find out that you're doing jury nullification.
They will remove you. They may not remove you.
They may leave you in as the foreman if you said, I'm out to get this guy.
But if you say something about jury nullification, they're going to immediately remove you.
So it is very rigged, and they do come up with all of these.
It's like shock and awe, overwhelming people with all these extra charges and everything.
You have to firmly believe in your innocence in order to push back against this system and actually take it to trial, I think.
Yeah, I agree. And I think that they assumed these guys were going to just take the plea deals and that this wouldn't go to trial and none of this information would come out.
I think that's what they were expecting.
I don't think they ever thought anyone was going to hear about Steve Robeson.
Well, give us an update as to what's going on with the documentary, and I'm sure it's taking a hit now because of all this stuff, and I'm sure that's the intention.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we are, you know, as I had said, we're preparing to do another shoot.
This one is pretty important, so I'll be traveling back to Michigan.
It is just overwhelming just to try to do it as such a small crew.
We're a very small crew, so we're just a few people, and...
It's very difficult. But where we stand right now is we've got one more shoot.
I'm going to be spending a week in Michigan going up and down the state.
I have access for a limited time to certain very important areas of interest from the case that are basically essential to the documentary.
So this is probably my most important trip.
And then... There's one more I have to make and then we should be able to get back into post-production.
But every time I say that, there's always something that ends up happening because it's such a complex story, right?
This is four years, four different trials, 14 defendants, 20 unindicted co-conspirators, everybody's family and friends.
So it's a lot to put together.
I think people have a misunderstanding of how much work goes into doing something like this, how expensive it is to make a documentary.
Believe it or not, they don't actually just get made by themselves overnight.
It takes a lot of work, a lot of resources, a lot of financing, and we have been very lucky and very blessed to have I've been able to essentially crowdfund this so far.
My family has also helped out and they're very supportive and I'm very, very lucky to have them because they know that this is something that is important to me and that I'm passionate about.
So I will not...
Put the film out until it is complete.
And I am going to be going through things in detail in the documentary because nobody else is going to do it.
Somebody had to preserve the historical record.
So I have a lot, a lot right now that we're sitting on.
So hopefully, yes, the...
What they've done now with the debanking right before I have to travel is causing a lot of problems for me because I have enough trying to plan a shoot, which is difficult enough with a small crew.
Our time and resources are so tight that I have to schedule things to the hour for what I'm going to do each day because of my limited time.
So I already was trying to do that.
Now it adds more...
Things that I have to deal with first and then of course some of my money is now tied up and I don't know when I'm going to get it.
Luckily though they did not get the bank account for the documentary itself and I think the reason for that is because I did not use any big bank.
I knew going into it when I created the fundraiser for the documentary I created a separate account just for that I had a feeling that they might try, so I went with a bank that is not a big bank that a lot of people haven't even heard of, and I think that's the only reason why that one has survived so far.
So if you have donated to the documentary with the Give, Send, Go fundraiser, you have nothing to worry about.
Those funds will...
They're fine. They have not gotten any of that.
That's good. That's good.
And that's one of the key things...
We need to think about that.
We need to look towards local banks, smaller banks, banks where you're going to know the people, and not the banks that are so tightly tied into the federal government and the FBI and other things like Bank of America.
I think it's very true. Right. Bank of America.
Who has collaborated with the FBI, as you said, with January 6th.
This is one of the things the 15 Attorney General said in their letter to Bank of America.
In the first three paragraphs, they said they collaborate with the FBI. Maybe they'll change their name to Bank of the FBI. Yeah, right?
It's like banking with J. Edgar Hoover, you know?
Yeah, I feel like they just wanted to cause inconveniences for me and to try to do this right before I had to leave for a shoot to make it more difficult for me to slow down my progress, to throw things in my way.
That's happened from the beginning, by the way.
Like I came into this to filming this very objective about the situation and about the guys And I just wanted to know the truth and I as I started doing it things kept happening that just was reinforcing what I was seeing in the discovery of like how Vindictive the government can be and what they will do to people who they just don't like yeah Like I have had and I think I talked about this before
when I was interviewing Adam and Barry, I interviewed Barry right before his sentencing.
The night before, I said, is there any statement you want to get out?
I have a small platform, but I'll put it out for you.
He said, yes.
I put it out, like a five-minute video, maybe at nine o'clock at night.
The next morning, the prosecutor Nils Kessler is quoting from it at Barry sentencing to call him unrepentant and completely radicalized for not taking responsibility for the FBI's plot and maintaining his innocence.
But then he also said that he was a spiritual leader.
He was like the blind sheik and all this other nonsense.
He gave Barry 19 and a half years.
So Barry ended up getting more time than Adam Fox, who the government initially said was the ringleader and focused on Adam. Adam got 16 years of Barry got 19 and a half.
And I think that's because at that time of sentencing, Barry was participating in the documentary more than any of the other guys, including more than Adam.
And I think it was punishment to him specifically.
So that night after their sentencing, I'm interviewing him again.
I said, do you guys want to get statements out to the weaponization committee?
I will record them.
I'll get him out the guys wrote their statements. I record Barry Reading his as a four-minute long statement. I publish it the next day the next morning Both Adam and Barry are moved out of New Ago County and sent to different Supermax prisons across the country Adam sent to Florence supermax Barry sent to Terre Haute Well, they then tell him when he gets there that he's going to be moved into the communications management unit the CMU
Which would have prevented his ability to basically even communicate with me through letters So at that point once they did that oh and my house was raided twice at the same time These guys were moved to super maxes. So all of these things were happening that are sort of like plausible deniability for the government that Oh, maybe it's just coincidental timing that this is happening.
But it's just one thing after another.
And these really seem like, with the debanking now also, with the Bureau of Prisons labeling me a security risk for no reason.
I have no criminal record.
I'm somebody who was in the criminal justice system, worked in law for many years, volunteered with the Orthodox prison ministries before I even started this documentary, so I should have no issues with the BOP. They'd approved me for visitation with one of the guys.
I'm not approved anymore.
That they tell me that the BOP has denied my visits now because I'm a quote security risk.
They wouldn't sign off on it though.
Nobody from BOP would sign a name to that and nobody would tell me who made that determination, when it was made and on what criteria that was made.
So we have a FOIA request in right now with the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
I attended a BOP oversight hearing.
I met the director of the BOP, Colette Peters.
She told me she was going to facilitate a visit, and then this is what happened.
This was the result of that, right?
She put me in touch with her media person who was supposed to facilitate this visit, and I get this email with Just from a generic BOP at BOP.gov email with nobody's name on it saying, they had approved me first, and then they said they rescinded the approval, and I'm a, quote, security risk.
Nobody will tell me why.
It looks like the no-fly list.
We look at all these different things that they have come up with in just the last few years, the last 20 years or so.
Things like the no-fly list, things like the communication management unit that you mentioned.
I've talked many times to Marty Gottesfeld, who was put in there.
His big crime was he came after a Harvard-affiliated children's hospital up in Boston because there was a medical kidnapping case there.
there he embarrassed them they got him sent to prison I got him sent to a communications management unit because he was connected to a lot of different people so we look at these types of things these are structures that have absolutely no place in a republic that has a Bill of Rights like we do and a Constitution like we do they belong in a dystopian totalitarian society which is what we have become folks if you start to peel this back all of these different
structures are being have been set up they've already been applied to a lot of people the question is When are they going to broaden this out to everybody?
Because that is what's going to happen.
And it makes you very concerned about things like CBDC and these other things, digital ID and stuff like that, because we see the totalitarian heart of our government, that it despises the principles that America was founded on.
It truly is amazing.
If people want to keep up with you and find it, they can go to K&K, is it film, singular, or film, plural, dot com?
K&Kfilm.com.
Good, okay. And there they can find how they can donate and support.
You've got links to all of that stuff there.
They can see the trailer that we played at the beginning of this.
And I would imagine, you know, as you move forward, I mean, these trials are still an appeal.
They could continue in appeal.
I guess you're going to have to just kind of, you know, put something there together, and then you could always do an update as some of these things are resolved.
And I would imagine that after the core of the story is told, that there would be an opportunity for people to go back and dig deeper, you That's what we're thinking.
Yeah, we're thinking of, we're focused right now on getting the first part out.
Part one, I think, is going to be the main focus.
And then after that, maybe a part two and three, because this is going to be, there's just no way you can get all of this information into one film.
You have to do it that way.
So we're focused now, but we can't even get part one done without doing this last shot.
We were in post-production.
We were working on editing, and we're like, you know what?
We just can't without access to certain locations, which I was able to secure.
This is the other reason why I think they really don't want me doing this last trip.
Because, and I would say what it is, because that would be foolish, as I know my assigned agent is watching and listening, but they have other ways of tracking and monitoring all of your communications.
I already know that they're monitoring mine.
Certainly, they monitor all my communications with the five guys who are still in prison, and so I feel like they really don't want me coming for this last shoot, because this is going to be my most important one, and I'm really looking forward to it.
But also I will say for the appeals of the state guys, Pete Musico, Joe Morrison, and Paul Bellar, the three who were tried at the state level for quote, providing material support and then moved to federal BOP facilities across the country on the eve of their appeals, all of those guys could be incarcerated by the way until 2063.
So that's about 40 years for nothing.
Paul's 25 right now.
it's just insane to think about He's been incarcerated since he was 21 years old.
Joe's only 29 right now.
His two young kids have not, they're like babies.
They have not gotten to be with their father at all.
And then Pete is his father-in-law.
That's their grandfather, is also incarcerated.
So imagine that. Your father and grandfather are incarcerated for something they didn't do, and it could potentially be for 40 years now.
That is just insane to think about.
What we know for that is for Paul, we have a hearing on him about bringing him back to Michigan.
That hearing is coming up June 7 in Michigan, and it looks like the defense has filed for a writ to kind of compel them to bring him back to Michigan so he can meaningfully participate in the appeals process.
Right now as it is in Minersville, Pennsylvania, he's got no access to a Michigan law library.
His Michigan court appointed public defender can't meet with him, doesn't make those drives, so he's had no contact with his lawyer.
Legal mail is returned to sender, so he has not gotten the transcripts he needs to prepare for his appeal.
And then it goes on and on.
All of the attorney-client-privileged phone calls are being monitored by a third party, and I'm not saying that this is coming from court filings in the case.
Anyone can go look at the exhibits where the attorneys are saying this.
A third party is monitoring the phone calls.
We all know who that third party is.
We also all know that Whitmer is the head of the MDOC.
As the governor of Michigan, she is actually the head of the Michigan Department of Corrections.
If you don't know how the organizational chart works, that's how it is.
So even if we do bring all three guys back to Michigan pending appeal, my concern is as soon as they step foot in Michigan, they're getting put in the hole and contact with them is going to cease.
And that's my concern right now, is keeping in touch with them during this time, because we have no idea what's going to happen.
It's also very weird that the trial judge is still overseeing the appeals, Judge Wilson.
And this is the bizarre thing.
They say, well, Judge Wilson, in this court of claims process, if he decides, like, he's going to decide to take up an appeal on his own rulings.
Why are we wasting time with this?
And they go, oh, well, If he makes a decision after that, then it goes to the Michigan Court of Appeals or something with a three-judge panel, and then they'll make a decision.
And I said, so why are we doing this then?
Is this just to waste time and just to keep these men in prison?
Judge Wilson's not going to disagree with rulings he made.
That's just nonsensical.
And so I feel like I'm in clown world.
I have no idea what's happening.
And as somebody who worked in law, I've never seen something like this occur where the trial judge becomes the person overseeing the appeals process.
I've never seen that happen before.
Amazing. Well, it's a story that really has to be told, and it's something that we should all be concerned about, how our government has loosened the chains that we're supposed to bind them down, as Patrick Henry said, bind them down with the chains of the Constitution.
But the fact that we have these bureaucracies, because that's what the FBI is, it's a federal bureaucracy, that we have these bureaucracies that will entrap That will bait and entrap, and then we have the, and that's part of this, a big part of this, and then the other part of it is how they will deny due process, how they will deny a fair trial, how they will apply excessive punishment.
All of these things are part of this story and of so many other stories, but if people can see this in one story, They might understand just how important it is in these other ones.
And I know that you're going to have a lot of problems with getting this seen.
Take a look at the movie that Clint Eastwood did about the Olympic bombings in Atlanta, for example, right?
And Richard Jewell and what happened with that.
They came after that movie in so many different ways.
They used the Me Too thing to shut it down.
There's going to be all kinds of frivolous and slanderous things that will probably come out, just like they threw against Clint Eastwood, to try to shut down this film, to get people to not see it, because that's the way they operate.
And that was an excellent movie, and more people should have seen it because that gives them a glimpse into the reality of the FBI. It's not this carefully prepared and presented image that J. Edgar Hoover would always do through Hollywood and through his TV show that he ran for years and years when I was much younger.
But it's a PR thing.
And they work on that very much.
So, of course, they're going to be opposing you.
They oppose anything that shows them getting it wrong and getting it vindictive.
But we should all be very concerned about what is happening to our government.
And we need more documentaries about these types of things.
But your film is very important.
It was also the template...
For J6, the same guy that ran that operation goes to Washington and runs the J6 thing to entrap people.
We've got people that are seeing so much excessive punishment of pro-life people, of J6 people, of these guys.
It truly is amazing what our government has become.
I think it's disgusting, and it's very sad.
I'm somebody who, you know, I'm a very nice lady.
I love to give people the benefit of the doubt, and, you know, I try to be very positive and stuff like that, but the process of, like, working on this has really, I don't want to say blackpilled me, but it has, I already was aware of Like, FBI corruption.
In fact, my research of PACON is what got me started covering the Whitmer case, because I had been looking into that prior to those guys getting arrested.
Once they got arrested, I'm going, oh my god, it's PACON all over again, and I'm seeing it.
But experiencing it is different.
When it starts happening to you, these COINTELPRO tactics that they do, or like what the East German Stasi did, they had a program called Zersettsang, which means decomposition, where they would do very bizarre things to people, including going into their home and rearranging furniture and then leaving.
Just to make you think that you're going crazy or you say to people, yeah, I think my home Well, did they steal anything? No, they just rearranged the furniture.
That makes you sound psychotic, but these are the things they would do to people.
They would arrange for failures in your work, and you didn't know.
You would just think that you weren't progressing in life, that you didn't get the promotion, but really, they were arranging for these things to happen to you, to We're good to go.
And of course, you know about that.
I know about that. They know about that.
And there isn't any restriction on their part from a moral or a legal standard.
There's no restrictions on whatever they do.
So if they see something that the Stasi people did, oh yeah, we could use that.
And so they're going to adopt any and all of this stuff because there is no controlling legal authority for these organizations.
And it doesn't matter.
The FBI is there, but when we look at all these other different aspects, whether it's the EPA coming up with arbitrary things to shut down our infrastructure, there is no control.
And Washington is absolutely out of control.
None of the people in Washington will do anything about it.
Not one. They'll hold show trials about this or that, but they keep funding it all.
They're big superpowers that they can cut the funding to.
They don't do it. Instead, they're giving them massive new budgets and bigger budgets, and they're doing the same thing with the IRS as they are with the FBI. Here, have another big pile of money.
We love what you're doing. Right.
Well, lying to us, you know, and fundraising off of these little show hearings that they do hold, there's zero oversight of the FBI. The Weaponization Committee has been a complete and total farce.
The nerve of them to refer to that as a Church Committee 2.0 I just think is ridiculous.
Mm-hmm.
I've handed it off to them and I've gotten no response from the weaponization committee and I've heard from, you know, we'll just say people behind closed doors that they're not interested in getting into the bottom of it because they're donors.
It's not on their list of priorities for their donors.
They go on a list of like one to twenty three.
That would be number twenty three at the bottom of.
And I'm going to the American people, though, it's number one for them.
Who cares about your donors?
So we get Hunter Biden.
We get this nonsense that, frankly, nobody cares about.
All of these political dynasties have nepo babies.
Hunter Biden isn't any different by any stretch of the imagination.
Who cares? You know, it's just stupid.
And then there are five men still incarcerated, ripped from their families.
Barry has three daughters.
Joe has two daughters.
Pete has daughters, grandchildren.
Paul, they threw him in there when he was 21 years old before he had a chance to start a family.
They're taking...
Time from these men that they'll never get back for something they didn't do, and yet we can't get Jim Jordan to look into this.
We can't get him to look into the blueprint for January 6th.
We can't get the Weaponization Committee to investigate this case, the most egregious example of weaponization in recent history, which according to the government, it was the greatest domestic terrorism case in a generation.
We can't get the Weaponization Committee to investigate that.
Then it's completely useless and it's just a farce and it's just there for them to grift off of it by taking little two-minute sound bites of themselves at these show trials that they rush to put on social media or they get their Fox News appearance.
That's all these people care about.
They don't give a damn about these men and they're not going to until we make them Until we put enough pressure on them publicly to do something.
We're not interested in everybody.
We're only interested in interesting people.
Well, guess what? These congressmen are also interesting people.
They're being blackmailed, probably, but they will also find themselves up against the wall when they really drop the hammer on this stuff.
And you look at these politicians who are getting...
Getting censored or even Trump with all of these other things that are coming up against him.
He could have done some things to stand up for free speech.
He could have done some things to shut down this kind of weaponization, which was around the entire time.
But if you don't do anything about that, it's going to eventually come around to you as well.
And that's the thing that they don't know and they don't seem to care about.
They think that they're above the law as well.
And they really don't care what happens to you and I. And they don't care what happens to these other people.
They don't support justice whatsoever.
They think they can skate through and do whatever they want.
And for the most part, they're right.
Menendez beat the first trial, so they haven't come in after him a second time.
But, you know, they can pretty much do anything they want and get away with it.
So I guess, you know, maybe that's what the whole ballgame is about.
That's why I think we need to have this documentary.
We need to expose this to the light.
That's the way we disinfect this stuff.
And then people need to understand just how rotten Washington is.
So people start directing their energies away from these people like Jim Jordan, who aren't going to do anything.
And start looking at what, if anything, we can do at the most local level.
I think we're going to have to take this country back from the grassroots up, and we're going to have to, first of all, disavow any idea that we're going to get this solved from the top down.
The top is completely rotten.
Absolutely is. I agree with you 100%.
That's what they were doing and that's why they didn't like them that's why they wanted to target them because they were men who said we're not going to sit here and allow you to Loot buildings and businesses and burn them to the ground We are going to organize we're gonna show up armed and we're gonna stand out front of these buildings and we're gonna guard them They don't like that. They didn't like the men armed men coming together Organizing themselves and saying no, we're not gonna allow
your tyranny anymore. We're gonna stand against it And it was that it was simply them saying those words That got them targeted.
And I'd also say, for people who think they know what happened with the Whitmer case, they do not.
There's so much to this story that no one knows about that I haven't even talked about because I want people to see it in the documentary that you think you know what happened here.
I can assure you, you don't.
You're going to see what happened firsthand, and you're going to hear from the people that actually happened to themselves.
And you're going to also see the lies that were told about these families and these men.
And you're going to see them for who they really are.
Yes, it's very important.
I really hope that you get this thing done, and the sooner the better.
And I know you want to get it done as well.
knkfilm.com is where people can find it.
I would also say this, Christina.
You better air-gap your editing equipment and things like that.
Make sure that it's not connected to anything that's connected to the Internet so they don't put a virus on your machine and take it down.
You know, do all that kind of stuff.
I'm serious. I mean, I've had Mark Hall, who did a documentary about Fatala Gulen.
He made sure he had his stuff air-gapped.
And he was getting threats as well from that organization.
So, you know, air gap your editing machine and this other stuff.
Make sure you've got lots of backups of other things as well.
Guard Goldsmith. I'll give the last word here, too.
Guard has Liberty Conspiracy.
And he says to Christine, he says, This is a key conversation showing how both Christina's work on the film and David's work on his show can yield new and wider benefits.
I keep wondering if recent probes I had with stocks at Merrill Lynch...
Bank of America owned, as you noted yesterday, David, stem from this kind of targeting.
Keep up the great work. Yeah.
The network that is there, and it's going to get so much more extensive with their leverage of artificial intelligence and other things like this.
We've got to try to establish some firewalls on this tyranny.
If we don't, it's going to be unlimited and so unbelievably pervasive.
So people need to start thinking about that.
We need to put some air gaps between us and the internet because that's One of their key tools, you know, for our essential things like finances and food and other things like that.
Get an air gap. Get it out there separate from some of these other things.
Thank you so much for joining us, Christina.
Sorry about all the problems that you're having, but of course, thank you for fighting, and we know you're going to get this thing finished.
Kandkfilm.com. Thank you very much.
Thank you. Well, that's it, folks, for today.
And again, I've got some stuff I didn't get to today, but we'll save it for tomorrow.
We've got some things happening tomorrow.
And it is very important for us to understand...
Just how far from the Constitution the federal government has gotten.
Not to get drawn into these personal petty rivalries between presidential candidates and the Uni Party.
That's there to keep you distracted from the real things that need to be done with your life, your family, God, and your community.
Keep those things there and focus on that.
That's what you can do something about.
Thank you for joining us. Let me tell you, The David Knight Show, you can listen to with your ears.
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