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The David Knight Show - 05/15/2024

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	You're listening to The David Night Show.
	As the clock strikes 13, it's Wednesday, the 15th of May, Year of Our Lord 2024.
	Well, today we're going to begin with debanking in the United States and debanking of an investigative film producer that I interviewed a couple of months ago.
	She's looking into the entrapment by the FBI in this case of allegations of a kidnapping plot for Governor Whitmer.
	And guess what? Her bank has just shut down her bank account and seized her money.
	Oh, they're going to write her a check. The check is in the mail.
	She doesn't know when, but her entire bank account has been shut down.
	And we're going to talk about the implications of that.
	We're also going to talk...
	Today about, well, coming up in the fourth hour, we're going to be talking to J. Warner Wallace, a cold case detective who's got a new book, The Truth and True Crime.
	I think you're going to find that very interesting.
	And we'll also talk about what's going on in Ukraine.
	The Russians just walked into a city because the money that we gave them, the millions and millions of dollars that we gave them, somebody stole it and they didn't build any fortifications.
	Imagine that. Imagine my surprise.
	Oh, here we are. So let's talk a little bit to begin with what is happening with money and the threat to money.
	We've got a huge threat.
	To the dollar, huge threat to the financial system, the commercial real estate crisis that Trump kicked off with his lockdowns and that type of thing.
	And so besides the inflation, besides the dollar, besides the economic hanging by a thread, all these different banks and commercial loans which can propagate through the economy, We also have the threat of CBDC, which is nothing that we've had before.
	Many of us have lived through the inflation, lived through stagflation, and we know how bad that was, but we could, as I said, usually accompanied by war, we could wind up with a Civil War, World War, Revolutionary War, all of these things all at once, and we could wind up with a perfect storm of a lot of different economic things.
	Now I have no funds, says Christina Erso, independent journalist.
	Bank of America abruptly terminated her bank account because of the film, evidently, the FBI's involvement in Governor Whitmer's kidnapping case.
	The Bank of America is highly politicized, to say the least.
	The termination came without warning, without a clear explanation even, from the bank's risk department.
	The risk department decided that she was a risk department.
	How's that? How is a documentary film producer a risk?
	Unless you don't, the FBI that you work with all the time, that you worked with during January 6th, doesn't like her for some reason.
	As I've said before, free speech is not a crime.
	Censorship is a crime.
	And censorship is used to cover up other crimes, isn't it?
	Always used to cover up other crimes.
	It's a crime that's used to cover up other crimes.
	And now we have the banks doing that as well.
	She says, despite her long-standing relationship with Bank of America, access to her funds was denied.
	She was informed that a check for the account balance will be mailed to her, but no specification as to when that would happen.
	She says, so Bank of America has decided to terminate their business relationship with me.
	Their risk department made this determination for literally no reason.
	I've been with them for years.
	This is clearly because my documentary and my critical reporting.
	Let me just tell you a personal story about this as well.
	I've long imagined that when we tried to make the move, we nearly were unable to complete the transaction because Bank of America...
	We had an account with them, and they had really good interest rates at the time.
	And so we decided to apply through them.
	I think it was a blessing, even though we were able to complete the transaction and get the move, but, boy, it was hanging by a thread up to the very last minute.
	And we wound up having to pay a higher interest rate, quite a bit higher because interest rates had risen because they drug their fee.
	But I worked with a loan guy and he was, oh yeah, no problem.
	Oh yeah, this is fine.
	No problem at all. And then they came up, his manager came up with some kind of flimsy excuse.
	I forget now the details of it.
	And so we went back and we corrected that and he encouraged us and said, resubmit it.
	I know this is going to go through. And he'd done this for a very long time.
	Oh yeah, I've done all this stuff.
	And so that was part of the process.
	It wasn't just rejecting it, but he was certain that there was no problem with it.
	Oh yeah, this is a piece of cake.
	And then they rejected that again, and they didn't really have any reason for it.
	And then we had to start shopping around for another loan from another bank and start the whole process over again.
	And again, we nearly lost this house here and nearly messed up the move.
	But the blessing is that we don't have them holding a loan on our house as corrupt as Bank of America is.
	So sometimes there's a silver lining in what God puts us through.
	It's like, no, no, no, you don't want that.
	But it may have been God that was moving that, or it could have also been some people up in the risk management department.
	Same department, the risk management department shut it down.
	Evidently, it's the risk management department at Bank of America that's going to run the shutdown of people, the debanking of people, as we've seen in the UK and other places like that.
	And it doesn't always happen to the high-profile individuals either.
	You hear about it when it happens to high-profile individuals.
	When, what was it, like 2023, I think it was, that you had the PayPal taking down the guy that has the free speech union in the UK, Daily Skeptic, And he has a pretty high profile in the UK. He has access to some politicians.
	And when PayPal took him down, they started making some noise about it, and they restored him.
	Now, when they took me down in May of 2021, when our show was only about four or five months old, and at that point in time, virtually all of our support came through donations via PayPal.
	And they just abruptly canceled this and would not give me an answer.
	And I spent hours on the phone with a rep.
	I said, this is really strange.
	There's no information here except a single order that says shut down this account.
	Never seen anything like this before, he said.
	He said, yeah, I understand.
	I understand what this is about.
	And I do know what it's about.
	I don't like it, but I know what it's about.
	So she said...
	They won't tell me why. They won't allow me to access my bank account or have access to the funds.
	They're telling me I will get a check in the mail, but they won't say when I can expect it.
	I'm traveling at the end of this month for my documentary, but now I have no funds.
	They wouldn't say when the check will come.
	I have a documentary film shoot in less than two weeks, and I have crew members I need to pay, etc., etc.
	So, yeah, pretty amazing, isn't it?
	By the way, let me just put this in here now.
	I was going to bring this up with politics coming up.
	Since it's looking more and more like Doug Burgum is going to be the VP for Trump, I had talked a couple of months ago about the connection between the two leading VP candidates for Trump, Noam of South Dakota and Burgum of North Dakota, both of them governors of those respective states.
	And about their involvement with this CO2 pipeline.
	I mean, when you talk about green boondoggle, pure Bolshevik projects like that, this is the worst.
	Absolutely the worst.
	We're going to pay tremendous amounts of money to extract CO2 from the air for some other processes, and we're going to pump it across the country.
	Then we're going to inject it in the ground in South Dakota and or North Dakota.
	Seriously? And pay tremendous amounts of money to these people running it.
	So the CEO of this emperor-has-no-clothes boondoggle frequented Mar-a-Lago, and of course, Burgum and Noam heavily involved in all this, and Trump at the center of all of that.
	Yeah, I talked about that, and I went to go back, and so has Harry Hound as well on Twitter.
	Harry Hound was talking about that and said back in February, hey, I've tried to post information about this nexus between these four people, the CEO and the other ones, and it keeps blocking this on Twitter.
	Who's doing this? And so I went back to get my report.
	I thought, I want to play a little bit of the report that I did a couple months ago about this.
	And here's what I found. Look at that.
	I go to Rumble. Video doesn't play.
	Oh, isn't that interesting?
	Yeah, this is my life.
	This is videos taken down, even on Rumble.
	Who knows what the reason is?
	Travis was saying that he thinks that it may not necessarily be censorship.
	It could be some technical issue.
	I don't know. Other videos are still there.
	He looked up other videos that other people did at the time, and it may not be directed.
	This particular one at Rumble may not be directed if it's censorship.
	It may not be directed at me personally.
	It might be the topic.
	Because we're going to see censorship from the right as well.
	You know that they want to do the same things to people they disagree with that the left does, right?
	And you see this in what is happening with these anti-Israel protests.
	They come after free speech.
	Is that for real?
	They're running that pipeline right down.
	I don't know if that's for real or not.
	Oh, AI generated, okay.
	Yeah, I don't think that was real.
	Running right down the alleyway between two houses.
	It's about as bad, though, these pipelines and the eminent domain abuses that we see with it.
	And I talked about that even...
	With a Keystone Pipeline, bringing in oil from Canada, taking it down to refineries in the United States, and I said, look, we need the oil.
	There is no transportation method that is 100% safe.
	if you could have accidents with it, but the safest is gonna be the pipeline.
	If there's leaks, they're gonna be relatively minor compared to an oil tanker spill or something like that, and much more easily cleaned up and fixed and so forth.
	But, and even safer than, and more efficient than sending it on a whole convoy of semi-trailers, right?
	Or semi-trucks. We could use them for other things.
	But it's not perfect.
	But I said I have a real problem with the eminent domain aspect.
	Especially because that pipeline was being run by a Canadian company, TransCanada.
	And it set new precedents.
	For eminent domain.
	You know, we had bad precedents for eminent domain in Connecticut with the Kelso case in the Supreme Court where the land was taken for the use of a corporation rather than for common use, like they're going to build a road or something.
	I don't like eminent domain, period.
	But, you know, if you're going to take property because you've got to build a road or something, that's very different, isn't it?
	Then you take it because a corporation wants it.
	And then what we had with this Keystone Pipeline was we had a corporation had the power to condemn this property.
	You gave the condemnation and the seizure via eminent domain.
	You gave those powers and those determinations and decisions to a corporation.
	For the corporation's use.
	See how it keeps progressing?
	Oh, and by the way, a foreign corporation gets to take that property from people who have had that property in their family for 150 years or more.
	And it's part of their farm, and it messes up their farm to cut this right in the center of it.
	How do you get around this thing?
	That type of stuff. So, yeah, there were a lot of issues with that, but this is particularly bad.
	And this is the description I had for the video there.
	If eminent domain were not bad enough on its own, add crony capitalism corruption and a CO2 pipeline green scam.
	North Dakota Governor Doug Burgum, now running ahead in the sweepstakes, and South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem, a CEO crony of Trump and Trump himself, those four people.
	If you think Trump's going to save you from the UN Davos Green Agenda and its corporate looters, you need to see this.
	Oh, well, I guess that's enough to take it now.
	We'll see what happens with it.
	Will it come back? Will I post it again?
	You bet. We'll find it and we'll put it up again and see what happens with the new posting.
	Also, I will say, we've got another video from three months ago that is playing and it's on the same page if you go back in time.
	So it seems there's something specific about that video.
	Yeah, yeah. So maybe the topic, not me particularly, so let's push this.
	I'm going to keep pushing it until they censor me.
	I'm wrong with it. It's like we try to set up a channel on Roku.
	We get censored with Vimeo that feeds it.
	I mean, it's just... This is what frustrates me and raises my blood pressure more than the work.
	It's this. And now the video right next to it doesn't play.
	So maybe there's something about videos we uploaded that exact day.
	I don't know. It's very strange.
	This is one of the problems with dealing with sites like this.
	As good as they are, it's impossible to tell what's actually going on.
	We'll upload it again.
	We'll upload it again. It's just, you know, I don't know.
	When it happens to you so often, the first thing I think about is that it's deliberate and not an accident.
	But maybe it's an accident.
	Maybe it's a tech issue. In a video statement, she gave further details and context about this, of course, and frustrated, suspicious that her account termination at Bank of America is linked to her reporting and the upcoming documentary on the FBI's misconduct in the Governor Whitmer Fednapping case.
	And it truly is entrapment, folks.
	We all know. And it was the blueprint for January the 6th, as we pointed out.
	We knew that before.
	She's got a lot of evidence about that.
	They've had mixed results in the trials, which you can attribute to the different judges, right?
	The way the judges allow evidence to be presented or not presented, whether they allow the jury to be told or not told, we have a long, rich history of judges who suppress exculpatory evidence, evidence that would show that the defendant is innocent.
	We've seen that in so many trials.
	I've seen it in every one of these tax protesters' trials that I know of.
	I've seen it in the trials around the Bundy Ranch standoff.
	The only reason that they didn't all go to jail was because you had a good guy, a whistleblower in the BLM, who said, this is what they're doing.
	Busted the case wide open.
	And it was so damaging to the government that they shut it down and the judge said, dismissed with prejudice.
	You're not going to reopen this case again.
	But it truly was prejudiced on the side of BLM and some of these other things, some of these other convictions.
	And I don't know if the first convictions that they got are some of the people that were there on January 6th.
	I don't know if those were overturned or not.
	I don't remember what happened to those.
	It can be recalled that the FBI used at least 12 informants in the Michigan-Whitmer kidnapping case.
	There are six defendants and 12 FBI informants.
	Two to one. They created this scam.
	They ran this scam.
	They goaded people into saying things.
	Be careful what you say on social media.
	Seriously. They've got scumbags like this working for the FBI that are out there doing this kind of stuff all the time.
	They do it on social media. You want to make sure you don't get some kind of Brazil raid in the middle of the night.
	Because of some FBI troll that you got into an argument with.
	Or maybe they're friendly and maybe they encourage you.
	You know, they're out there saying all of these provocative things and you feel like you can join in and say them with them as well.
	You need to understand, have some wisdom about the times that we're living in.
	So Bank of America provided customer information to federal authorities around the January 6th events.
	And of course, a lot of parallels between that and this Whitmer thing.
	They actually took the guy who ran the Whitmer Bolshevik, pure Bolshevik case, they put him in to run January the 6th.
	And of course, Bank of America also turned over all kinds of credit card records and gun purchases.
	Specifically, what they told, what the Bank of America sent to the FBI. And the FBI said, we didn't ask them for it, they just did it voluntarily.
	Well, you know what's going on.
	There's a very close relationship with them.
	Uh, they're just not, they're not guessing.
	Well, you know, I think the FBI would do this.
	Let's spend the extra time. Now the FBI tells me, you know, it'd be nice if we had that information.
	They've always run this scam.
	They've run this type of scam with the phone companies.
	And when people, uh, said, Hey, you did a, you know, you gave them my information.
	The courts said, well, you have a phone, uh, account with, um, you know, the bell system that we've given monopoly to, uh, And so you've agreed to give them all this information, and that's their information now, and they can do with it whatever they want.
	And if they want to voluntarily turn this over to us without a search warrant, they can do that.
	That's what's going on here.
	The FBI tells them what they want, and Bank of America says, sure, you don't need a warrant.
	We're not going to ask you for a warrant.
	And they voluntarily give them everything that they want because they want to have a place at the table with CBDC and other stuff, right?
	In the same way that Bell liked their phone monopoly at the time, and AT&T and Bell, they liked that monopoly, and they wanted to keep that going, so they were more than happy to give any information to anybody in the government about anyone without a search warrant.
	So some of the things that they got were these people in D.C. between January 5th and January 6th.
	So Bank of America would let them know.
	They're there making... Purchases.
	Did they purchase a hotel stay or an Airbnb in D.C., Virginia, or Maryland after January the 6th?
	Now, of course, you could do this and not be there for the January the 6th grift.
	And the whole thing was a setup, as I said.
	Trump set people up. Alex set people up.
	Bank of America ratted on these people.
	Bank of America ratted on a lot of people who had nothing to do with any of this Stop the Steal or Save America stuff either.
	Next one. Airline-related purchases since January the 6th.
	Did they fly out of their January 6th?
	Next one. Any purchase of weapons between January the 7th And their upcoming suspected stay in the D.C. area around Inauguration Day.
	So you've got a lot of people who had nothing at all even to do with that grift and entrapment that we call January the 6th.
	And they still had their names turned in to the FBI by Bank of America.
	Bank of America.
	It's interesting because Bank of America has had such close ties with the government.
	Going back to the Clinton administration, I remember because we had a bank account with Nations Bank, which was headquartered in North Carolina.
	And at that time, there weren't these gigantic too-big-to-fail banks.
	They were really more regional.
	So Bank of America was a California bank.
	Nations Bank was a North Carolina bank.
	And there was a guy in North Carolina, Erskine Bowles.
	He had run for office many times.
	He was in the Clinton White House.
	I forget his exact time.
	I don't know if he was chief of staff or something else.
	But he was pretty high up in the Clinton White House.
	And he was involved in the banking industry in North Carolina.
	And so they wanted to have this merger between the North Carolina Bank, Nations Bank, and California's Bank of America.
	As they put that out, all of the press was saying, you can't do this.
	This is going to create a gigantic bank, and it's going to set off a wave of mergers, and you're going to wind up with just a handful of gigantic banks.
	But Erskine Bowles did his influence thing, and the Clinton administration approved it.
	And the two of them moved, named all the banks, Bank of America, moved the headquarters from California to Charlotte, North Carolina.
	And then that set off a wave of mergers, and 10 years later, because Clinton also took down the Glass-Steagall Act, Ten years later, we had this big financial crisis because of all the speculation in the real estate market, and lo and behold, you had about five or six banks that were too big to fail, and they got bailed out. And so Bank of America has been there from the inception with all this stuff.
	They've also debanked Dr.
	John Eastman, who was...
	Pushing the corruption of the election theory, he confirmed that he's already moved most of his money from Bank of America to USAA, which is for armed services accounts, over concerns that Bank of America had this leftist advocacy, or actually government advocacy.
	But then both of them, both of them shut down his accounts, both Bank of America and USAA. Closed down within the space of two months.
	In the UK, as we've talked about before, Brexit leader Nigel Farage found that he was being denied accounts by major banks.
	And of course, Nigel Farage has a very high profile in the UK. When he talked about it, though, they thought, ah, he's just a conspiracy theorist.
	It isn't happening and all the rest of the stuff.
	But he campaigned on the issue.
	They actually got the text messages released.
	And it showed that this was coming from the CEO. Of that bank.
	One of the biggest banks in the UK, NatWest.
	And by the way, the British government was a major shareholder in that bank.
	And it caused that CEO to have to resign.
	That CEO, Dame Alison Rose.
	Oh, there's nothing like a dame.
	Rogers and Hammerstein. The other day I was talking about that and I told Karen, I said, Oscar and Hammerstein.
	Oscar and Hammerstein was the guy who wrote the lyrics.
	But it was Rogers and Hammerstein.
	Richard Rogers. And it came to me Because I sat in there and all of a sudden the song, I don't know if you ever saw Victory at Sea series that was done.
	There's a lot of stuff like that that was done when I was a kid because I was born 10 years after World War II. And so people started documenting stuff like that.
	So it was a long series, Victory at Sea, and Richard Rogers did the music for it.
	I don't even remember. Excuse my voice there, but you get the idea.
	And if you're of a certain age, you probably could not escape hearing that little ditty there.
	And immediately, I did that with Karen Shea.
	Oh, yeah, I know what that is.
	Anyway, I digress.
	Fort Worth's tallest building sells for less than 9%, less than $9,000, not quite that bad yet.
	The tallest building in Fort Worth sold for less than 9% of its 2021 purchase price.
	Well, see, we need to figure that in to help Biden with his inflation figures, don't we?
	Yeah, the price of food and fuel and all the necessary things may be going up, but hey, look, the price of commercial real estate dropped by 90%.
	Isn't that great?
	Let's just average this all in.
	So, yeah, that's what's happening, and it's not happening just in New York.
	Maybe I can afford it. That's right.
	Next year, maybe you can afford a skyscraper in Dallas.
	I'd tear it down.
	That's right. So, Pinnacle Bank...
	Had an auction, and actually they bought it back for $12 million.
	I guess they got first dibs on it.
	The people who lost it...
	Had a $13 million loan.
	Pinnacle Bank bought it back for $12 million.
	So they've got a sunken cost in it of $25 million.
	But the people who bought it bought it for $137.5 million just in 2021.
	And then this thing sells for $12 million.
	So somebody took a financial bath on this thing.
	The former owner, Burnett Cherry Street, LLC. They're the ones who lost all the money.
	The bank has come out okay on it, though, actually.
	Because, again, their total cost on it is $25 million, and it was appraised most recently at $104 million.
	So they got something worth $104 million for $25 million.
	I guess this building is too tall to fail.
	They got a deal.
	The average commercial building vacancy rate in downtown Fort Worth, however, is about 50% lower at 11.5%.
	So it's dropping by 50%, but it's only down to 11.5%.
	So the vacancy rate is not as bad as it is in some places like New York City.
	Peter Schiff. Asks, what will CBDCs mean for gold?
	With the eventual introduction, he says, the CBCs now seeming inevitable.
	That's right. I know Trump put it on his campaign promise list, but he doesn't have any commitment to it.
	I don't believe he's going to do anything about it.
	You know, there was some hope, perhaps, that DeSantis would, because he made it a core issue, and he did a half-hour thing.
	But then when he got finished, all they wanted to know was, well, what's going on with this Manhattan trial of Trump, which is now in process?
	That's all they asked him about.
	So, again, when we look at that, promises are cheap, especially for Donald Trump.
	I don't think he's going to, especially considering the fact that Jared Kushner and Trump's Goldman Sachs Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin started the CBDC kickoff.
	And then, you know, handed it over to Biden.
	It's a left-right, left-right.
	You know, one of them starts it, the other one finishes.
	You know, Trump starts the vaccine stuff, kicks it over to Biden, and he completes it.
	Anyway, Peter Schiff says, of course, recounting for people who I think everybody knows by now what CBDC is.
	He says it's a means of surveillance, but he gives a couple of good examples here.
	He says, so if you owe taxes or a parking ticket or something, it'll be automatically deducted.
	Does the Fed think that it needs to cool inflation?
	Well, they might deduct money directly from your bank accounts because, you know, this is what they do with modern monetary theory.
	We just take the money out.
	Cool inflation. You know, they're not going to do this kind of stuff of changing interest rates or quantitative easing.
	No, what they'll do is they'll just directly pull money out of your account.
	So, they could impose a daily spending limit on you.
	You know, anything. If you've got a 15-minute city, he doesn't mention this here, but he's got a 15-minute city thing they're trying to enforce.
	Sorry, you can't buy anything outside this little 15-minute city radius that we've assigned you to.
	Giving a new meaning to that statement at the bar.
	Sorry, your money's no good here.
	Literally, that's what would happen.
	Possibilities for control and profit are endless and too tempting for control freak bureaucracies and amoral tech companies to ignore.
	He's right about that. He said, since CBDCs and the idea of a cashless society are mostly about increasing centralization and control on the societal and individual level, it's easy to see how they might be accompanied by new legislation banning precious metals and other non-state approved financial activities.
	All they need is a severe enough financial crisis to provide the justification.
	And this isn't a theory.
	We saw it during the Great Depression, as he points out, with FDR, confiscating gold by executive order.
	A true communist criminal, if everyone wants one.
	And with new developments in crypto-tokenization tech and a brewing global financial crisis.
	Well, it's not brewing. It was created.
	Created. Sorry, you know, we're not even going to discuss any more of this whole thing about meat and dairy.
	Just if it's meat or dairy, you can't buy it.
	Just not going to let it happen.
	So, that's one of the big advantages of gold.
	But his article is, so what happens to the price of it?
	And he looks at what happened to the price of gold before and after the executive order that FDR went through.
	And I don't know exactly on his chart here, exactly the point at which FDR at one point, after he seized most of the gold that he could get, he just arbitrarily raises the price.
	He gets it on the cheap and raises the price.
	It went from $21 to $34 an ounce.
	That's about 62%.
	I'm not sure exactly the timing of when that went up, but it goes straight up on his chart that you see there.
	Some legislators are recognizing the threat and fighting against it, declaring CBDCs to be a threat and empowering precious metal holders.
	However, he says, I'm not sure it'll be enough to fight the tide that's being engineered by the central planners.
	But as precious metals emerge as the best form of physical money, In a tightly controlled, micromanaged financial dystopia, they'll become the only way to make private or off-grid transactions, making them more valuable than ever.
	Not only as investments, but as a means of survival outside the fully digitized fiat nightmare.
	Financial privacy, you know, privacy of financial transactions is what Catherine Austin Fitz talks about.
	And I think that is the key issue.
	You know, we can talk about inflation, and we can talk about how they manipulate that.
	We can talk about the interest rates and how they manipulate that.
	But it really is, for me, the coming plans to try to centralize and control everything.
	And you have to have something that's physical if you're going to have any financial privacy.
	It'll still be difficult to do it.
	You know, they'll have informants and things like that everywhere.
	It's going to be difficult to survive, but you're going to have to survive in a gray or black market if they get their way.
	If we can organize at the local and state level, maybe it won't come to that.
	But if we don't organize at the local and state level, it will be that.
	It will be you individually trying to operate in a gray market or a black market.
	Sober Gold vs.
	the Rate-Cut Circus Show.
	This is from Von Greyer's Gold.
	He says, I've got a picture that I imagine of Uncle Sam hanging off a cliff with a forced political smile.
	Above the cliff is a grizzly bear.
	Below the cliff is a pool of sharks.
	Whichever direction he picks, the end result is going to be messy.
	And he says, that's really what we're looking at here.
	When we look at, is the Fed going to cut rates or not cut rates?
	In January, Powell was giving a lot of forward guidance about how he's going to do rate cuts.
	Everybody expected that they would do that to support Biden, which is another indication to me that they have basically, they want to have Trump.
	All of these trumped-up charges in these court cases have made it all about him personally.
	It's all become a reality TV show circus, which is his...
	That's his wheelhouse.
	It suits him just fine.
	It meant that he could go through and eliminate a large field of people challenging him, even credible candidates who had been governors and things like that, without talking about any issues, without doing any debates, just by making it about his own personal suffering.
	And so, he says, so, you're going to look at the interest rates.
	He says, here's my advice.
	Stop caring about it, because either way, we're screwed.
	That's what I say about the presidential race.
	Stop caring about whether it's Biden or Trump.
	Either way, we're screwed, right?
	Whether Powell raises interest rates or drops interest rates, we're still screwed.
	And the same thing is true of the election.
	There's no solution coming from that quarter.
	With trillions in U.S. Treasury notes, Repricing this year.
	And over $700 billion in zombie bonds from S&P issuers doing the same.
	If Powell doesn't cut rates, then sovereign and corporate bond markets are staring down a loaded barrel.
	And he said this is real.
	Bank of America's own data confirms that Uncle Sam is looking at $1.6 trillion in interest expense payments by the end of the year if Powell doesn't cut rates soon.
	So... You can make cases for cutting rates.
	You can make cases for not cutting rates.
	But he said, whichever way you go, you need to understand that the end results are going to be misreported.
	The government will lie to you about the inflation rates, as always.
	And as he points out, so what is the lesson from history?
	The lesson from history... Is it all failing nations ultimately resort to killing their own currencies in order to buy time and to save a system that's mathematically beyond being saved?
	As Niall Ferguson recently reminded us, any great power that spends more on debt service than on defense will not stay great for very long.
	This has been true of the Habsburg Empire.
	This is true of the ancient regime in France, of the British Empire.
	And, of course, it will also be true of the American Empire.
	Quite frankly, I look forward to anticipation to the demise of the American Empire, regardless of what happens to us.
	It'll be an improvement, I think, because they're a threat to the life, the liberty, and the prosperity of everyone as it is.
	So, you'll be jumping out of the frying pan.
	We'll see what the fire is like.
	But it is a mass-murdering, cultic-pushing infestation of demons in Washington, D.C. And you've got to hope that that goes down.
	Whatever the cost to us, even if it costs us everything.
	Well, again, you want to prepare individually.
	You know, we can hope that things are going to be done at the state level.
	Maybe they will. But either way, you need to prepare individually.
	And you can do that at davidknight.gold.
	That'll take you to Tony Ardobin's Wise Wolf Gold.
	And there you can buy gold or silver, large or small amounts.
	You can also set up a regular savings program.
	And you can gradually accumulate gold.
	You can do it on a fixed amount each month.
	He has different tiers that are there.
	And if you get into Wolfpack, that helps you with quantity discounts on the things, on whatever it is that you are picking up there.
	A couple of comments I want to get to before we take a break on Rockfan Handy. Good to see you.
	Says, Bank of America was where my dad banked when he moved to Missouri. They waited until the day of closing to reject the loan.
	There you go.
	He ended up with a local bank instead, but the deal almost crashed.
	So maybe it wasn't me personally.
	Maybe it's just Bank of America.
	Stay away from these people.
	They will mess you up one way or the other.
	Joe Biden challenged Trump to a pair of debates.
	This has just been released, Travis says.
	First one would be as early as June, the second for early September.
	Biden's camp rejected, allowing the Nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates to run the debates and wants the debates to be in a closed TV studio with no live audience.
	It gets them confused if other people are talking.
	And with microphones, they cut off if they go over their allotted time.
	Biden told Trump, go ahead, make my day.
	Well, okay, there you go.
	He's a big man. He's going to sign up for a debate.
	These guys are so pathetic.
	They're not running the show, folks.
	They're just puppets.
	They're sock puppets.
	The question is, who's got their hand up there behind waving their arms and legs?
	You know, that's what you've got to ask yourself.
	Okay, we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back.
	♪♪♪
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	Yeah, let's take a look at what is going on in Ukraine here.
	Before we do, real quickly, I just want to say thank you to Kishan G.
	Thank you for the tip on Rockford.
	Hi, David and team. I enjoy listening to your show daily, even though I don't agree with all of your opinions.
	Well, of course, if you're critically thinking, you're probably not going to agree with me on everything, because we're going to see some things differently.
	I'll tell you what I think.
	I try to give you the news objectively, and then tell you what I think about it.
	But of course, even the things that I think are important, Are going to reflect my personal opinions and biases as well.
	Anybody that tells you that they're completely objective, that they're the sole source of truth, reject those people.
	They're either fools who believe that themselves or they're cynically lying to you about it.
	But I, you know, again, I have my biases and I'll tell you why I think what I think.
	And it's very important for us to understand that And I'm not saying that you have to listen to people that you disagree with.
	It's just that you don't want to demand that they be canceled.
	That is a very big tell, I think.
	People who, you know, whether they're left or right now, we see this on both sides.
	When I shut down the opposition, and it's like, okay, what have you got to hide?
	What is it that you're trying to lie to us about?
	Because that's what censorship is about.
	It's always about covering up lies.
	The truth doesn't need to be defended.
	It needs to be unleashed. So she said, I can't afford much, but here's my small token of my appreciation.
	Well, thank you very much. That is very generous.
	I appreciate that. I really like your interviews with Eric, Gerald, and Tony.
	Keep up the work. One question, do you think Alex's Infowars is going to be shut down?
	I'm a fan of his, but just wondering your thoughts.
	No, no, it won't be.
	You know, he hasn't paid a penny out of this $1.4 billion judgment, and he's not going to pay anything.
	And he was bragging about it.
	He's bragged about that on air.
	He bragged about it privately, how he's going to get out of that.
	He knew he was going to lose.
	He chose not to give them the information, and that's not a theory.
	Remember that clip where he says, oh, this is your Perry Mason moment?
	Why was it the Perry Mason moment?
	Well, because he had always said, I gave them everything that they wanted.
	You know, all this kind of stuff. He didn't give them everything they wanted.
	He was playing a shell game.
	He was moving money around, delaying this stuff.
	And he did not give them what they demanded.
	And you automatically lose a case when you don't do that.
	He knew he was going to lose a case.
	He was just dragging it out.
	And he got caught when he was on the stand.
	His lawyer... Always hire the best.
	His lawyer looked great.
	I mean, he really was out of fashion magazine, but evidently wasn't the brightest guy because his lawyer sent Alex's phone information to the opposing counsel.
	And there was a period of time, it was like one or two weeks or something, and never said, disregard that.
	If he'd said, if he'd realized that he made a mistake and sent it by mistake, or if his staff had sent it by mistake, he could have always pulled it back and said, disregard that.
	And the other lawyer would have to have disregarded it.
	I guess, I don't know what the rules are with that, but I guess there's some kind of professional courtesy thing or maybe the rules of the bar or something like that.
	If it's a mistake and you catch it, but if it sits there for a week or two weeks and you don't pull it back, it's fair game for him to use it.
	And so opposing counsel confronted Alex and said, well, you know, you said this didn't happen and you said you didn't have this information when we asked you for it, but here it is.
	It was sent to me by your lawyer by mistake.
	And Alex said, oh, so this is your Perry Mason moment.
	Yeah, it really was a Perry Mason moment.
	Because it showed that Alex had chosen not to defend free speech.
	Look, I was there when all this stuff was going on with Sandy Hook.
	And it was a debate.
	And it should have been fair to say all that stuff.
	There wasn't anything that was said that was unfair, in my opinion.
	And yet, there was talk about this kind of stuff, and it got to be a real hot potato.
	And there were problems with Wolfgang Halbig as a credible source.
	And so Alex said, let's shut this thing down.
	Let's not talk about this anymore.
	I was perfectly fine about doing that.
	I had no interest in talking about it.
	And then when Owen came, Owen wanted to open up that can of worms, and he wanted to open up the can of worms about Pizzagate.
	And basically, he just stepped in several different piles of dog poop and tracked them through the organization, which resulted in these lawsuits that were there.
	And that's when it fired up again.
	But there's a lot of political angle to it as well, of course.
	No doubt about it.
	But Alex chose to try to preserve his money by whatever secretive means he used, offshore bank accounts and stuff like that.
	He chose to preserve his tens of millions that he was paying himself every year, and to not defend free speech and a free press.
	So he chose not to play that game.
	He chose not to participate and defend what he had to say as being fair under the First Amendment, which it was.
	But he chose to go the underhanded route.
	Now, I think I can beat him by hiding stuff rather than making arguments.
	And so that's the situation he's in now.
	But he hasn't had to pay a penny to these people.
	$1.4 billion hasn't paid any of it.
	Still maneuvering, still moving around.
	And so, yeah, he's got a lot of connections.
	As I said before, I've never known anybody before or since that has so many friends and family in the CIA as Alex does.
	Something weird about that, don't you think?
	It seems to be a protected individual when it comes to January the 6th or this other stuff, for whatever reason.
	On RockFan, Garts Goldsmith.
	Bank of America also bought Merrill Lynch, that's right, in a government-brokered special deal where the government bought a lot of Merrill Lynch debt.
	Yes, that's right. And being able to buy Merrill Lynch, that was tied, I believe, to getting rid of the...
	You know, the Glass-Steagall Act, because the banks were doing a lot of speculative stuff before the stock market crashed on the 1920s.
	And they said, all right, to restore confidence in the system, the federal government will set up a corporation to ensure the bank deposits, but we're going to require that you can't participate in these risky things.
	And so when they took that away, Bank of America could buy Merrill Lynch and these other people who were doing these securitized real estate loans and everything.
	And, yeah, the government bought a lot of the debt.
	I mean, it's just this revolving door, just like you see with the vaccine stuff, like we're going to see with the agricultural stuff, the attacks on our food supply.
	It is, again, to think that there's a difference between the Republicans and Democrats is like thinking that there's a difference between the multinational big corporations and the government that's supposed to be overseeing them.
	They're not adversaries.
	They're partners. They're partners.
	Just like the Republicans and Democrats are not adversaries.
	They're partners on the key existential issues that confront us.
	By the way, Rockfin Handy says, the thing when my dad happened back in 2006.
	Okay, well, that's interesting. So it looks like maybe they've got some systemic issues.
	Inefficiencies and how they work.
	So you can add that to their craven government sycophancy.
	The Russians simply walked in.
	Ukrainian troops in Kharkiv tell BBC. Denis Yaroslavsky is angry.
	As the commander of a Ukrainian special reconnaissance unit, he fought in Ukraine's surprise offensive in Kharkiv in the autumn of 2022, which pushed back an initial Russian invasion all the way back to the border.
	But now Denis and his men are facing the prospect of doing it all over again.
	Russian forces have in recent days made small but significant gains right along the border and the Kharkiv region.
	Their advances are only a few miles deep but have swallowed up around 62 miles of Ukrainian territory.
	In the more heavily defended east of Ukraine, it has taken Russia months to achieve the same penetration.
	They did it in just a couple of days and they just walked right in.
	By the way, do you notice a subtext here they don't point out?
	BBC says, well, you know, they've advanced over here and they've advanced over here.
	They're comparing how quickly they were able to advance in two places.
	But the bottom line is they're winning everywhere.
	They're winning everywhere. This is an unwinnable war.
	It's been an unwinnable war from the very beginning.
	It was very interesting at the very beginning.
	And it's hard whenever there's a war.
	To get objective information.
	Usually people have a dog in the fight.
	And so I thought probably the best objective information was coming out of the Indian press at the very beginning of this.
	And they had some Indian military people talking about it.
	And then they weren't heavily allied with either the U.S. or with Russia.
	So they weren't spending it for one or the other.
	And they were saying, this is, you know, they were talking about fighting them to the last Ukrainian.
	They said, you can't win this.
	And I think the best summation of it was from Colonel Douglas McGregor, who said, this is like a war between Mexico and the United States.
	The United States is going to ultimately win that war, overwhelming them with resources and people and technology and all the rest of this stuff, right?
	And that's what's going to happen here.
	It's just a matter of time.
	And they don't really care, you see.
	And Arrestovich knew that.
	Alexei Arrestovich knew that.
	He came in in 2019 with Zelensky.
	They ran on a platform of peace.
	Because at that point in time, they'd already had five years of civil war after the CIA-Victoria Newland-engineered coup.
	The areas that didn't like the new government wanted to secede and be with Russia for fighting that government.
	And so they shelled civilian populations for five years.
	And Arrestovich was part of Zelensky's peace group, and he came back and was interviewed on TV, and they said, so what's going to happen?
	Are we going to have peace? Oh, no, it's not going to happen.
	Oh, that's bad.
	He goes, oh, it's even worse than that.
	He said, in three years, 2022, when it did kick off, in three years, we're going to be at war with Russia.
	He said, that's horrible. He says, yeah, and the country is going to be havoced, is what he said, devastated.
	How can that be, she said.
	They said, well, here's the good news.
	We get into NATO, right?
	They don't care what happens to Ukraine.
	The Ukrainians that the NATO people have put in charge with the coup and the rest of the stuff, they don't care what happens to the rest of the country.
	Just like the people in our country don't care what happens to the rest of the country.
	Just like the Israeli government doesn't care what happens to Israelis, let alone Palestinians.
	They've got their geopolitical objectives and, you know, to hell with you.
	We don't care what happens to the rest of the country.
	And he said that.
	Matter of factly, he said that.
	And so, it's not a surprise.
	But you have people like Chris Christie and Lindsey Graham.
	This is good. Let's do more of it.
	Let's keep this going. Because they also don't care about the loss of life.
	In Ukraine. They also don't care about the country being absolutely, totally destroyed.
	The only thing they care about is their little geopolitical objective of weakening Russia.
	And if we can use the Ukrainians to do that for us, yeah, we'll use them as our surrogate army.
	We don't care about their lives.
	They don't matter. Whatever. Travis says, pro-Russian Slovakian Prime Minister Robert Fico has been shot.
	Oh, is this going to be like the Archduke Ferdinand?
	No reports on his condition yet.
	It's apparently a close ally of Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban.
	Well, we'll see what happens with that.
	It keeps escalating, doesn't it?
	But, again, they really don't care.
	The war has been lost.
	The war was lost from the beginning.
	This is just about bleeding Russia.
	That's all it's about.
	All this money, all this blood, so we can bloody Russia.
	And perhaps, you know, the real goal is to have a world war for depopulation.
	So, going back to Ukraine, this guy who was the commander of a recon unit, Dennis, Special Forces Recon, he wants to know what happened to Ukraine's defenses, says the BBC. He said there was no first line of defense.
	We saw it. The Russians just walked in.
	They just walked in without any mind feels.
	He says officials had claimed that defenses were being built.
	They said at huge cost.
	But in his view, those defenses simply weren't there.
	He said either it was an act of negligence or corruption.
	It wasn't a failure.
	It was a betrayal.
	He knows that. And, of course, you can look at all the villas that Zelensky has put everywhere, and the Paris shopping trips of his wife, and how he's nested the ownership of these foreign villas through multiple, you know, corporations.
	It's like a Madryowski doll, you know?
	Got to dig, and then who owns this one?
	Who owns this one? Who owns this?
	Eventually you get that, and it's in the name of his wife.
	Everyone knew this incursion was likely to happen.
	Just like everybody knows that Ukraine is going to lose the war.
	But these guys who got the money didn't build the fortification, as Dennis says.
	He says, of course I'm angry.
	When we're fighting back for this, we lost thousands of people.
	We risked our own lives.
	And now because somebody didn't build any fortifications, we're losing people again.
	They took this money from the likes of McConnell and Schumer and trader Mike Johnson and they ran.
	They ran. And so that was a BBC story.
	There was a local story that was done by Ukrainska Pravda on Monday.
	You know, the truth of Ukraine, I guess.
	Military and civilian authorities in Ukraine's Kharkov region paid millions of dollars to fake companies, fake companies, for the supply of non-existent building materials to construct defensive fortifications that they didn't build.
	said the newspaper Ukrainska Pravda on Monday.
	With no fortifications built, Russian forces have advanced rapidly through the region.
	Writing on Monday, the paper said Ukrainian anti-corruption activist Martina Bogoslavets explained that the regional military administration had been given $176.5 million to build fortifications to hold back this advance.
	Much of the money was embezzled, she claimed.
	For the supply of wood, the regional military administration signed contracts of $6.8 million with five companies that were set up immediately after the contracts were announced.
	Oh, okay. They didn't exist before.
	They get the contracts.
	They create these companies.
	Then the next thing is they have no-bid contracts.
	No bidding process took place, and at least two of these companies were owned by the same person, she said.
	This is almost as bad as Dick Cheney in Iraq.
	There's no bid contracts with Halliburton and other stuff.
	Now, of course, Halliburton was a genuine construction company.
	They didn't even bother to have genuine construction companies in this.
	They get it.
	They get the money from, uh, the Congress, the American Congress, and they set up some contracts and then they create some phony, uh, companies and, um, they just take all the money.
	Moreover, they said the owners of these firms do not resemble successful businessmen and businesswomen.
	She said they have dozens of court cases from whiskey theft to domestic violence against the husband and mother.
	Some of them are deprived of parental rights and have had enforcement proceedings for bank loans.
	It's just organized crime.
	Bogus Slavits described these business owners as avatars, placed in charge of the companies either for a small fee or without their knowledge.
	Oh, like Zelensky himself.
	Or perhaps like McConnell.
	And Mike Johnson and Chuckie Schumer, avatars, put in place by the real government, the intelligence community, and the military-industrial complex of this American empire.
	The naked eye can see how a government official mercilessly registers new companies using for this purpose people who, due to the circumstances, may not be aware of this, and this someone continues to make money on blood, she wrote. The lack of defensive fortifications allowed Russian forces to enter Kharkiv region almost unopposed.
	They also quote this guy, Denis Yaroslavsky, that the BBC talked to.
	No line of defense we saw.
	The Russians just walked in.
	They walked in without any mind feels.
	He said it wasn't a failure.
	It was a betrayal.
	And folks, this war is going to be lost.
	And just remember, when it is lost...
	That it wasn't a failure. It was a betrayal.
	It was a betrayal from the very beginning.
	And then we look at the Israeli thing.
	I don't like to cover it in detail.
	Because it's nothing but a slush pool of lies from both sides.
	With a fog of war, you can't really see what's going on.
	Everybody is lying about what happened.
	Did this atrocity happen?
	Did that one happen? We know people are dying, of course, but to get the numbers and to see who's doing what, it really is not possible for us to know that.
	So I've stayed out of that. My position is America first.
	Peace first.
	Impose a just war restriction.
	Not what we saw yesterday from Mark Milley.
	Oh, well, you know, here's what you need to have for a war.
	You need to have a political reason and you need to make it fast.
	Oh, really? Well, you don't even do that, right?
	Your wars last forever.
	By design, they last forever.
	That alone would make them unjust.
	But the fact that you strike other people preemptively that have not hit this country, it's not a legitimate prelude to war to see somebody making bold and aggressive statements and building up a military.
	That doesn't justify it.
	But now what we've had is a U.S. Army major who has quit the Defense Intelligence Agency in protest of what he has seen.
	Now, this, I think, is credible because like the doctors who eventually came around and started talking about what they saw happening with the vaccines and with the hospital death protocol that Trump was paying people to do, these doctors had nothing to gain and everything to lose by telling the truth about what Trump and Biden were doing and the big pharmaceutical companies and the FDA and the CDC, all of it, right? And they did.
	They paid the price. They lost their career.
	Same thing with this guy.
	He has nothing to gain from blowing the whistle on this.
	Nothing. He resigned from this.
	It's the end of his career.
	And he's doing it because he can no longer be a part of what he says is ethnic cleansing.
	A U.S. Army officer has resigned from his postage on Zero Hedge at the Defense Intelligence Agency to protest Washington's, quote, nearly unqualified support for the government of Israel, unquote, support that has facilitated what he calls the killing and starvation of tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians.
	He describes himself as a descendant of European Jews, he said.
	He was raised to be particularly unforgiving, he said, where responsibility for ethnic cleansing is concerned.
	You see, we have to be careful we don't become what we fight.
	You want to say we're not going to have ethnic cleansing?
	You want to say we're not going to have discrimination and racism?
	But then you promote those values as part of your government, as part of what you donate money to at the universities?
	You support those racist policies?
	You become what you fought.
	And that's always the trap, isn't it?
	When Major Harrison Mann left the DIA in April, he sent a two-page letter to a group of his colleagues there saying that he felt that they were owed an explanation for his, quote, relatively abrupt departure.
	On Monday, he shared the letter with the public via a post to his LinkedIn page.
	Well, I can't get the full letter.
	I'm banned on LinkedIn as well.
	But they do have a significant number of quotes that they've taken out on this Zero Hedge article.
	What he has to say, he says, I'll read the quotes that they had.
	He said, I cannot justify staying silent any longer.
	It is clear that this week, some of you will still be asked to provide support directly or indirectly to the Israeli military as it conducts operations into Rafah and elsewhere in Gaza.
	I am sharing my letter now in the hope that you too will discover that you are not alone.
	You are not voiceless, and you are not powerless.
	In the April letter explaining his departure, Zero Hedge says, Man describes how his growing misgivings grew as the IDF's retaliation for October 7th continued with U.S. government help.
	He said, Each of us signed up to serve, knowing that we might have to support policies that we weren't fully convinced of.
	Our defense institutions couldn't function otherwise.
	However, at some point, it became difficult.
	Hang on a second, I lost my place here.
	Hmm, okay. This is the problem with electronic stuff here.
	Yeah, a little bit further here.
	Okay. It just skipped into an unknown zone, and we've got to recover, get back to where we are.
	It's thinking about it.
	Here we are. It came back.
	How about that? Okay.
	So he says...
	At some point, whatever the justification, you are either advancing a policy that enables the mass starvation of children, or you're not.
	And you can see there a picture of a child, literally starved.
	You know, how many times have we been shown pictures similar to that, that the Nazis did, the people in concentration camps?
	Do we become the monsters that we fought?
	In April, UNICEF said one in three Gaza children under two years old are acutely malnourished.
	When Israel began retaliating after October the 7th, the defense minister, Gallant, declared, I have ordered a complete siege on Gaza Strip.
	There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel.
	Everything is closed.
	We are fighting human animals and we are acting accordingly, he said.
	By the way, that is the same type of thing that we're going to see these globalists lead to.
	They want to shut down our electricity, our food, our fuel.
	They're doing it right now with EPA. They're going to do it gradually, and then one day they're going to do it suddenly, right?
	Be prepared for that.
	They're doing it gradually right now.
	The same things they did because they're at war with us.
	Our own government, the EPA, is at war with us.
	So be prepared.
	He said, we enabled and empowered the killing and starvation of tens of thousands of innocent Palestinians.
	The past months have presented us with the most horrific and heartbreaking images imaginable, sometimes playing on the news in our own spaces, and I have been unable to ignore a connection between those images and my duties here, which has caused me incredible shame and guilt.
	By the way, yesterday... It was made public that Biden said, I'll tell you where the Hamas leaders are hiding.
	We know where they are. We know where their tunnels are.
	I'll tell you where they are. If you do this and this, they've known.
	The Israelis have known. They've chosen not to go after the leaders of Hamas so they could go after the civilian population because they want to purge them out of there.
	I told myself my individual contribution was minimal and that if I didn't do my job, somebody else would.
	So why cause a stir for nothing?
	I told myself I don't make policy.
	It's not my place to question it.
	Above all, I was afraid.
	I was afraid of violating our professional norms, afraid of disappointing officers that I respect, afraid that you would feel betrayed.
	He says as the descendant of European Jews I was raised in a particularly unforgiving moral environment when it came to the topic of bearing responsibility for ethnic cleansing.
	My grandfather refused to ever purchase products manufactured in Germany where the paramount importance of never again and the inadequacy of just following orders were oft repeated.
	I am haunted by the knowledge that I have failed those principles.
	But I also have hope that my grandfather would afford me some grace, that he would still be proud of me for stepping away from this war, however belatedly.
	Mann also noted, America's unconditional support also encourages reckless escalation that risks a wider war.
	I think that's true in the Middle East.
	I think that's true in Ukraine.
	I think that's true in China as well.
	Well, we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back.
	So, let's get started.
	So, let's get started.
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	Well, if you oppose these wars that they have going on, expect to pay the price.
	And Thomas Massey is now being targeted by AIPAC, American-Israeli Political Action Committee.
	They spent $300,000 now in the last week or so before the primaries.
	He's got two opponents. And remember, going back to 2020, Trump targeted him.
	He said, let's primary him out.
	He didn't succeed in doing that at that point in time.
	We'll see what happens this time.
	And the reason that Trump was angry with Thomas Massey was because Thomas Massey said, we can't afford three and a half trillion dollars for this lockdown stuff.
	This is insane. And you guys want to pretend that there's a virus here?
	Come back and vote.
	We're not going to do this by acclimation or whatever.
	You're going to have to come back and register.
	And everybody was furious with him.
	He really got everybody there angry with him, but especially Trump, because this is Trump's baby.
	The lockdown was Trump's baby.
	And it's kind of interesting now, because Trump has come out and attacked during the primaries.
	He attacked DeSantis for opening up.
	Opening up! When at the time he, I'm sorry, for closing down, at the time he attacked DeSantis because he opened up.
	He and Kemp in Georgia opened up about two weeks into this, two weeks to flatten the curve.
	They said, that's it, we're opening up.
	And then when, and Trump was furious.
	You're going to kill people, all the rest of this stuff.
	Then, when Trump is running against DeSantis, he tries to pretend that DeSantis was the lockdown master.
	It was Trump. Pure projection.
	Pure lies, and Trump knows it.
	And then just this last week, we saw that with RFK Jr.
	He said, RFK Jr., Um, uh, RFK Jr.
	is, um, um, you know, he, he's, he's pushing the vaccines or something, you know, he wants to, and it was just the opposite.
	Trump even used RFK Jr.
	to bid up his price to the big pharmaceutical companies and get millions of dollars during the transition period.
	And then Trump responded by putting in the Pfizer, uh, the, um, Eli, uh, um, I can't remember.
	Eli, what is it?
	Help me, Travis. The pharmaceutical guy.
	I want to say Eli Whitney. It's not Eli Whitney.
	Eli Lilly. Thank you.
	I got Eli Whitney, which was an automobile catalog that I used to buy stuff from when I was in high school.
	I couldn't get Eli Whitney out of my mind.
	Anyway. It happens to us all, doesn't it?
	So, Eli Lilly, CEO, came in and he made him head of the FDA and he stayed there for the full four years and he was the one who kicked off the emergency executive orders declaring that it was a health emergency.
	Then, Trump, in the middle of March, March the 13th, Friday the 13th, he kicks off the money for the emergency thing.
	Anyway, Trump used RFK Jr.
	to bid up his price with these pharmaceutical companies.
	And now he's accusing RFK Jr.
	of being a big vaccine proponent.
	No, he's not anti-vaccine.
	Of course, Trump is the father of the vaccine.
	He's called himself that. And so, now he is, Trump is attacking Biden, warning that Biden is going to do all the things that Trump actually did in 2020.
	You know, the lockdowns, the masks, the social distancing, and all the rest of this stuff.
	It's just amazing, the projection that's there.
	But anyway, he says, listen, Thomas Massey put aside, he said, listen to this $300,000 hit piece on me by foreign interest lobbyist group, AIPAC. And he says at 12 seconds in, they say 15 times in April, Massey was the only Republican voting.
	And so then he says to Speaker Johnson, he said, Speaker Johnson, why did the U.S. House of Representatives vote 15 times in April on Israel's issues, but not a single time on our own issues, our own border or any of that stuff?
	Johnson has been completely captured by the military-industrial complex, by the CIA. He's pushing wars.
	He's pushing domestic surveillance.
	He won't give a penny to the American border.
	Here's the attack ad.
	And listen to how many times they stress Holy Land.
	They mention it three times.
	Oh, well, you know, Thomas Massey has allied himself against God, apparently, according to the American-Israeli Political Action Committee.
	Israel, the Holy Land, under attack by Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Congressman Tom Massey.
	Republicans are trying to associate him with those.
	But one Republican is standing in the way. It's Kentucky's Tom Massey.
	15 times in April, Massey was the only Republican voting with anti-Israel radicals.
	Massey's votes, helpful for Iran, harmful to Israel.
	Everyone who cares about the Holy Land needs to know Tom Massey is hostile to Israel.
	United Democracy Project is responsible for the content of this advertising.
	So, best endorsement of Tom Massey I've ever seen, quite frankly.
	Bye.
	He says, in retribution for his many recent votes against bills that advance Israel's agenda in Washington, he says, House Speaker Mike Johnson recently threatened to stick the Israeli lobby on Republicans who didn't toe the presidential line.
	The vaguely named United Democracy Project, an independent campaign spending arm of the mighty American-Israel Public Affairs Committee.
	They don't have the guts to put their own name on it.
	They create a shell corporation out here, shell project, right?
	You know, it'd be too obvious, I guess, they think, if they said, this is brought to you by APAC. But it's brought to you by something that they created.
	They announced they're pouring $300,000 in advertisements on the Fox TV affiliates in Massey's home state of Kentucky.
	Said, we're trying to shine a light on the radical anti-Israel record.
	Oh, no, it's anti-Holyland.
	He's anti-God, right?
	Of Thomas Massey, said a spokesperson.
	With a statewide attack, AIPAC likely intends to influence the 2026 election as well.
	Massey is considered to be one of three favorites...
	For the 2026 Republican nomination to replace Mitch McConnell.
	Wouldn't that be something if you get rid of Mitch McConnell with somebody who actually cares about America instead of selling us out?
	What a sellout that guy has been, Mitch McConnell.
	Can't have somebody like Thomas Massey.
	Why? Because Israel doesn't like him.
	They want somebody in there that will sell out to them.
	It's just amazing. Israel, the Holy Land, under attack by Iran, Hamas, Hezbollah, and Thomas Massey.
	Did you know that? Yeah, he's on the side of Iran, Hamas, and Hezbollah, they say.
	No, he's on the side of America.
	These other people are just amazing.
	Everyone who cares about the Holy Land needs to know that Thomas Massey is hostile to Israel, the ad says.
	Yeah. Well, let me just say this about the theology that's there.
	If your theology...
	It's conflicting your eschatology, your end times theology.
	If that eschatology is in conflict with basic, fundamental, moral principles that you see throughout the Old and New Testament, Throughout the Hebrew and Christian writings, if you have a vision of politics and geopolitics and the end of the world that conflicts with clear,
	basic, moral principles, then maybe you need to rethink what you're doing with your eschatology, how you're applying it, or if it's even right in the first place.
	But your application of that eschatology, even if it is right, is at odds with the basic fundamental principles of the Bible.
	God does not need us to murder people for Him.
	That's what the Muslims say.
	Come on!
	I'll never support that.
	Never! And you shouldn't either if you're a Christian.
	You ought to reject that. Wrap yourself in the Holy Land.
	Why don't you read the Bible? This is like Ben Shapiro, who goes on with Joe Rogan and says, well, I don't believe that, you know, Rogan says, well, do you believe that Moses part of the race?
	No, I don't believe that. No, I don't believe the miracles in the Bible.
	I just want the land, right?
	The only thing that's holy to them is the land.
	God's Word's not holy.
	God's not holy to them.
	They don't honor God.
	They don't believe the Word of God, except when it gives them something.
	Then they're all about that, aren't they?
	I have no patience for this.
	I will have no part in this.
	Zero Hedge says, rather than having, quote, attacked the Holy Land, what Massey did was he simply tried to defend the U.S. Treasury from being plundered for the benefit of a foreign country.
	That is among the world's richest countries.
	Why pay for your defense when you can get the suckers in Washington to do it?
	You've got to channel, you know, a few thousand dollars to them and get millions.
	Or you funnel a few thousand dollars to them and you get billions, right?
	Well, it's just...
	The bill, another $14.3 billion to Israel.
	Massey, knowing that he would face the wrath, Yeah, he knew that Trump was going to push back against him.
	He knew that he was going to offend all the other people in Congress when he called that vote in 2020.
	He knew that he was going to be attacked by AIPAC when he did this.
	Massey, knowing that he would face their wrath and perhaps the dollars of the Israeli lobby, tweeted that he would vote no on this $14.3 billion.
	He said, Israel has a lower debt-to-GDP ratio than the United States.
	This spending package has no offsets.
	In other words, they're not saving any money anywhere else.
	They're not saying, well, we're going to cut...
	Remember at the very beginning, you had Trader Johnson said, we're going to cut $14 billion from this IRS army that Biden wants to build.
	But then as time goes by, he says, now we'll build the IRS army and we'll give the $14 billion to Israel as well.
	He's a traitor to us.
	He wants to stick the IRS on us just like Biden without any reduction.
	He's worse than Kevin McCarthy.
	Kevin McCarthy at least had a little bit of reduction.
	Not so with Johnson.
	Fully fund Biden's war against Americans using an IRS that is seven times bigger than it is today.
	And so he has absolutely no offsets.
	So that's what Thomas Massey said.
	There's no offsets on this.
	So it's going to increase our debt by the full $14.3 billion plus interest.
	He also tried to defend the First Amendment, one of only 19 Republicans to do so.
	And again, if you are going to do something like this Anti-Semitism Awareness Act, If you have to censor people who disagree with you, perhaps you don't have confidence in the truth of what you're saying.
	Perhaps you are censoring and canceling things because you have crimes to hide that you don't want to come to light.
	That is always the case with these people who call for censorship.
	They want to hide in the darkness.
	They don't want their works to be shown to other people, shown in the light. Still pending in the Senate, it characterizes various statements about Israel as being anti-semitic, subjecting colleges and universities to civil rights enforcement action if somebody says the wrong thing, and taking money away from them.
	Look, I'm a hundred percent for taking all the money away from all of the colleges and universities.
	There is no authority in the Constitution for a single penny to be given to any public or private schools.
	No authority for that whatsoever.
	But that's not how it's going to be used.
	It's going to be used to bribe and blackmail people to be on their side.
	Policing speech, religion, and assembly, said Thomas Massey, is not the role of the federal government.
	In fact, it is expressly prohibited by the U.S. Constitution, and that's exactly what this bill by this traitorous Mike Johnson does.
	It polices religion.
	It polices assembly.
	It polices religion because it says what we can or cannot say about what happened to Jesus.
	How dare you?
	I'll say whatever I wish.
	And you will never stop me from talking about that.
	Absolutely amazing to be that presumptive.
	Absolutely amazing for Mike Johnson to this wolf among the sheeps to put on the sheepskin.
	Oh, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian.
	And you put that on people?
	And you let this be defined as anti-Semitism, defined by a non-governmental organization that's not even an American organization?
	I was talking about the eminent domain being done by a Canadian oil corporation.
	Look, I think we needed that oil pipeline.
	I think we need to shut down racism and anti-Semitism.
	But you don't allow foreigners...
	To take our property.
	And you don't allow a foreign government to take our Bill of Rights.
	And if you do, you're a traitor to this country, Johnson, and the rest of these GOP people who voted for it.
	All of our congressmen in Tennessee voted for that Anti-Semitism Awareness Act.
	They are trembling in their boots.
	They don't want to be called anti-Semitic.
	They don't want to have hundreds of thousands of dollars in ads run against them like they're doing Thomas Massey.
	He's the only one who had the guts to stand up to this stuff.
	Well, 19 others.
	But none of them from Tennessee.
	I will not be voting to support any of these people in the general election.
	I'm not going to vote for a Democrat, but I'm not voting for any of these Republicans either.
	Just like Biden and Trump.
	If there's some third-party candidate, I'll vote for them.
	I'm not voting for any Republicans running for Congress out of Tennessee because they voted for this garbage.
	Kentucky's Republican primary will be held May 21st.
	So we're really close.
	We're only six days away next Tuesday.
	So they're dumping these ads here.
	Massey is being opposed by two GOP challengers.
	He said the pro-Israel super PAC was targeting him, quote, because I'm often the lone Republican for freedom of speech against foreign aid and opposed to war in the Middle East.
	AIPAC is against our freedom of speech.
	AIPAC wants the foreign aid and AIPAC wants war.
	That's the opposite of this stuff, right?
	That's what they're spending the money for.
	Because they want censorship because they want war.
	They want censorship because they want our money, and they don't want anybody talking about that.
	He added this is urgently requested, requesting like-minded Americans to help him to thwart the attack by donating to his campaign.
	He told the Courier-Journal in Kentucky there's a reason to think that Johnson may have encouraged the AIPAC to give him primary challengers.
	He said this week in our GOP conference meeting, as members groused about blowback, From the latest anti-Semitism resolution, he said, Johnson pledged to call his contacts at Jewish-Israel groups if dissident GOP representatives mustered opposition.
	Great guy, isn't he?
	You wonder why he's so allied with the CIA. He uses those kinds of tactics.
	Pushing in the FISA thing, extending it, extending it in time, extending it in extent.
	This and the timing of the ad announcement, he says, raises questions about whether the ads were suggested by or sanctioned by Speaker Johnson.
	In addition to now being creatively accused of attacking the Holy Land, Massey has endured baseless accusations of anti-Semitism.
	Including this gem from the editor of Commentary Magazine, John Podhoretz, who called Massey a disingenuous piece of anti-Semitic filth.
	Well, projection.
	Because John Podhoretz is a racist piece of Semitic filth.
	That's what you are, Podhoretz.
	Massey has previously suggested that AIPAC's role in U.S. politics amounts to foreign influence in our election.
	Absolutely. Critics call the sentiment an anti-Semitic trope.
	If you don't give your money to Israel, you're anti-Semitic, he said.
	Undeterred, Massey last week posted a poll.
	Asking if AIPAC should be forced to register as an agent of Israel under the Foreign Agents Registration Act.
	Farah. Yeah, absolutely.
	If you're lobbying for a foreign government, you're supposed to register.
	Now, of course, that was one of the charges that they brought against Hunter Biden and the Biden family.
	But, of course, they're privileged characters.
	They don't have to follow the law.
	And neither does AIPAC. So he asked people, should AIPAC register with Farah?
	No, the only place that AIPAC has to register is with the gift registry for the sellout prostitute GOP congressman and the Democrats as well.
	They've got a gift registry.
	Maybe you can send them some gold bars or something like that, right?
	That's what these people are about.
	So, it truly is amazing.
	We'll talk about Trump here in a second on Rock Fan.
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	Trump is telling a massive crowd now.
	That on day one, he's going to have the busiest day ever for any president.
	And he's going to do it by executive order.
	Because, you know, we all want to have rule by executive orders, don't we?
	It worked out so well for us in his first term.
	Every one of these presidents and every successful one, Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican, Democrat, Republican.
	They all have executive orders.
	And they all have more executive orders than their predecessor.
	And so he is saying that by executive order on day one, I'm going to save the whales.
	I'm going to get rid of offshore windmills, okay?
	Well, there's so many different things that he could do, isn't it?
	Why don't you, on day one, say that you're going to get rid of the Paris Climate Accord, which was put in by your predecessor, Obama, and you didn't get rid of it?
	And you didn't call for it to come up for a vote in the Senate because it is a treaty and it needs to be ratified by the Senate.
	Maybe you could do that, except that you're a demagoguing liar, politician.
	You're not going to do anything about the fundamental issues here.
	You're not going to do anything about the Paris Climate Accord.
	You're going to tell people you're going to save the whales.
	This is a guy who doesn't want to save the babies anymore.
	Save the baby whales.
	He's going to save the whales, but he doesn't want to save the babies because that's too politically expensive for him anymore.
	And then, as I said before, he's out there projecting about how Biden is supposedly the lockdown king.
	When he was the one who did all this stuff, nobody had ever done anything like that before.
	All of the lockdowns and the you're not essential stuff and everything, that was all a Trump precedent.
	The left-wing lunatics are trying very hard to bring back COVID lockdowns and mandates with all of them.
	Like you did, lunatics.
	So you're mongering about the new variants that are coming.
	Gee whiz, you know what else is coming?
	An election. They want to restart the COVID hysteria so they can justify more lockdowns, more censorship, more illegal drop boxes, more...
	Which you did. You did that the first time.
	...in payoffs to their political allies heading into the 2024 election.
	Does that sound familiar?
	Yes. Yeah, sounds like what you did.
	These are sick people we're dealing with.
	But to every COVID tyrant who wants to take away our freedom, hear these words.
	We will not comply.
	With the Constitution.
	We will not shut down our schools.
	We will not. You did all of that.
	You did all of that. We will not abide by your mask mandates.
	And we will not tolerate your vaccine mandates.
	Unbelievable. The 2020 election and now they're trying to do the same thing all over again by rigging the most important election in the history of our country, the 2024 election, even if it means trying to bring back COVID-19.
	But they will fail because we will not let it happen.
	When I'm back in the White House, I will use every available authority to cut federal funding to any school, college, airline, or public transportation.
	He knows how he did it.
	That imposes a mask.
	It was with funding. He paid for them to do it.
	Thank you very much.
	See, this is why the MAGA people can't get through their thick skulls.
	He paid the airlines and the schools and everybody to live the lockdowns that he told them to do.
	He is such a sick, disgusting liar.
	Just unbelievable. And then show this picture, Travis.
	Trump's big gun entourage torches the merits of the sham business records trial outside the courthouse.
	Now, it is a sham trial, but look at these guys.
	This is the red tie brigade.
	They're all dressed exactly alike.
	They've all got a gray suit and a red tie.
	Now, I like red ties, but I try not to wear one every single day.
	But here we are. You've got Ramaswamy and you've got Doug Burgum and everything.
	The red tie brigade.
	Because it is a beauty contest.
	You know, it's kind of like, you know, if there were women, they'd be there in a swimsuit, I guess.
	But since they're men, they're all wearing their red Trump tie.
	And they're all defending Trump at this courthouse.
	As if he needs any defense.
	Look... It's a rigged process.
	They'll probably find him guilty and he'll probably overturn it on appeal at some level because it is a rigged process.
	And the rigged process, they're probably going to get a conviction and then they will overturn it.
	But it's really just about creating a big reality TV show.
	This salacious, you know, Trump and his women show, you know, which they always do.
	So they're all in a beauty contest to see who's going to be awarded Mr.
	Trump Veep, you know, and runner-up Trump Veep.
	They're all there and, you know, shilling for him.
	And, of course, Johnson was there yesterday as well.
	But when we look at...
	Doug Burnham, as I mentioned earlier, he is a special case.
	And many people believe that he is going to be the pick.
	He's going to be the pick not because Trump is going to try to do something in a DEI sort of way.
	You know, get Tim Scott because he's black or Kristi Noem because she's female or somebody else now that she shot her dog and bragged about it.
	But what Doug Burnham brings to the contest is very simple.
	Lots and lots of money. He's a billionaire himself.
	And of course, Kristi Noem and Doug Birdman, as I said earlier in the show, and Trump and the CEO of this pipeline scam to extract CO2 out of the air and to pump it across the country at great expense and into the ground and the Dakotas at great expense.
	What an unbelievable boondoggle this is.
	And yet they're all tied up in it.
	And so for all those reasons and for all of Doug Burgum's big cash and everything, that's what everybody believes is going to happen.
	And again, I'll put up that report on Rumble since you can't see it for some reason.
	And we'll see what happens when we repost it.
	But Daniel McCarthy, I'm not the only one.
	Harry Hound thinks it's going to be Doug Burgum.
	I think it will be as well.
	And Daniel McCarthy, writing at WND, says, Donald Trump really knows how to run a talent show.
	He really knows how to run a reality show.
	He's had beauty contests.
	This is a beauty contest. He's had The Apprentice.
	This is like The Apprentice. You know, it's these vice presidential candidates.
	He said, and it's kind of interesting, and he's very sympathetic to Trump.
	He likes Trump, unlike me.
	He says, nobody's going to watch these reality TV shows If you don't have a competition that is credible.
	So he plays up the competition.
	Folks, this is what's going on with the entire election between Trump and Biden.
	You know, the winner has already been chosen by the powers that be.
	They want you to watch this.
	They want you to focus on this because they don't want you to focus on your own life.
	They don't want you to focus on your own community, your own state, where you could actually change things.
	No, you need to be caught up in the presidential reality show.
	And he's going to pick this guy, just like RFK Jr., picked a Google billionaire by marriage to be his running mate as well.
	And he talks about this.
	He says, this is kind of interesting.
	You know, when you look at Doug Burgum, he's a nothing.
	He had so little support that he offered $20 gift cards if he gave him a dollar donation.
	Remember I reported that? People said, that's got to be a scam.
	It's not a credit card scam.
	He did that. What they said was, you have to have a certain number of unique donors in order to be able to participate in the first debate.
	And they had a similar thing for the second debate.
	And he had, it only cost him like a million dollars.
	It's nothing to him. A million dollars in presidential politics, especially for somebody who's already independently wealthy billionaire, that's nothing at all.
	So he paid up a million dollars to get into the debate.
	And you could have a piece of that if you sent him a one dollar donation or more, he would send you back twenty dollars.
	And that's how he got in.
	And he had to do that because nobody cared about him.
	He had to buy his way in.
	And he'd probably buy his way in as Trump's running mate as well for the same reason and in the same way.
	And even with that, after the first one or two debates, he couldn't hack it.
	And so he had to drop out.
	Even buying his way into the debate wasn't going to work for him.
	And so it truly is about money.
	As I said, look, you could have Tim Scott to get the black vote, or Marco Rubio to get the Hispanic vote, or, you know, a woman to get more money.
	But why does Doug Bergen bring?
	Money. Lots of it.
	Money. This CO2 gas lighter project is the real issue.
	The financial angle.
	Just like RFK Jr., RFK Jr.'s running mate is an empty suit.
	And so is Burgum, quite frankly, even though he's the governor there.
	Biden once slammed Trump's China tariffs, and now he's building on them.
	That's right. Left, right, left, right.
	He built on Trump's lockdowns.
	He built on Trump's six-foot magic distance.
	Trump's masks.
	He built on Trump's vaccine.
	As a matter of fact, he even built on Trump's vaccine mandate.
	Trump had put in the mandate for the military.
	It was going to kick in at exactly the time that Biden's mandate kicked in.
	How did they know? How did they know?
	We all knew, and I talked about it at the time.
	We're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back
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	Alright, welcome back.
	Let's talk a little bit about the pandemic.
	About the bird flu pandemic.
	That they just keep pushing and pushing.
	It's like the ever-ready bunny. Unlike the battery-operated cars, this one just keeps going and going.
	Scientists sell fear that cattle may become a permanent host for bird flu.
	Well, then maybe you need to call it cow flu.
	They're going to become a permanent host for it.
	Be very afraid. We've got a lot of cows, and we've got lots of people who are working around cows, they say.
	And so it's just inevitable it's going to happen.
	Wait a minute, wait a minute. You don't have any cows that are sick.
	You don't have any cowboys who are sick either.
	You got a guy who got pink eye.
	That's not the flu. His lungs were clear.
	He didn't have fever.
	He had no flu symptoms whatsoever.
	You can get pink eye by not washing your hands and rubbing your eyes.
	He's working in a dirty environment.
	Could that be the case?
	Oh, no, we're going to use that.
	And they continue to use this.
	So the latest fear is coming from Outlet Earth.
	And I said cattle may become a permanent host for bird flu.
	The recent findings that pasteurized milk in the United States is no longer suspected.
	Why would you suspect it? And again, do you notice they haven't tested eggs at all?
	This is a bird flu. They've killed tens of millions of birds in the last couple of years.
	Using this as an excuse.
	To raise the price of chickens.
	To raise the price of eggs and everything.
	And yet, even though they've killed tens of millions of chickens, they didn't say that they were sick.
	They would come in if they used the PCR test and got a positive result from this process of magnifying whatever they pull out there by 1.1 trillion times if they're using the same cycle magnification that they used during the COVID fake pandemic.
	If that's what they're still doing, and likely they are, or even more, They didn't bother to test any chicken meat.
	They didn't test any eggs.
	But it's all about the cows.
	All about the cows now.
	Bird flu is all about cows.
	They're so obviously transparent in all this because they have made it very clear they want to shut down the farms and they want to shut down cattle and all the rest of the stuff.
	They want to ban meat and dairy.
	And so that's what this is all about.
	Can't people see this?
	So they said the persistence of the bird flu virus in U.S. cattle population is alarming, experts say, who fear that cattle could become a lasting reservoir for the virus.
	Again, we need to have the cows from Chick-fil-A. Holding up a sign, test more M-O-R chickens.
	Spell it. Spell it.
	Test the chickens. Leave us alone.
	Stop, you know, test the chickens.
	And have the chickens standing around with some masks on their faces, I guess.
	Eventually, the wrong combination of gene segments and mutations inevitably come along.
	This is Outlet Earth magazine.
	So eventually, the wrong combinations of gene segments and mutations inevitably come along.
	Whatever opportunity, we may have had to nip it in the bud.
	It's like a deputy...
	Barney Fife. Nip it.
	Nip it in the bud, Andy.
	We're going to nip it in the bud. Well, whatever chance we may have had to nip it in the bud, we lost by a really slow detection.
	See, we're going to go even faster, says Michael Warby, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Arizona.
	This guy is an evolutionary biologist, and his entire career is built on a lie of evolution.
	Evolution. Evolution of bacteria.
	I mean, we're not even talking about bacteria.
	We're talking about a virus.
	But again, when we talk about, oh, look, we got a superbug that evolved.
	Do you know what that is? There wasn't any additional DNA added to this superbug.
	Whenever they have a situation, they say, well, we've got bacteria that are resistant to this or resistant to that.
	What has happened is that they applied it, and just like they said, take your full course of antibiotics, right?
	But you've got, you apply this, and it's just like when they poisoned us with the shots.
	Not everybody's going to succumb to it.
	Because of genetic variation, some people will be immediately killed by the Trump shots.
	Other people will die slowly.
	And so the same thing is true of the bacteria.
	Not all of them are going to be killed.
	And so what happens is, you know, you got a better chance of getting all of them if you let it run for a very long time.
	But if you just do it a little bit...
	You're going to kill the bacteria that are most susceptible to it.
	And the other ones who have some resistance to it or a lot of resistance to it will survive.
	And they'll be the ones that will continue to breed.
	They call that evolution.
	It's not evolution. They're not gaining any function.
	They're not turning... They're not going from molecules to man.
	They're not evolving into some higher life form.
	Hi, you tried to kill me as a bacteria, but now I'm back!
	And now I'm an insect!
	No, that's not happening.
	That's not happening at all.
	Evolutionary biology is a lie, folks.
	If it's molecules to man, yes, they do change.
	But, you know, they play these games, you know, like Darwin's game about...
	You know, finches and stuff like that, and some of the people who seceded him said, oh, look, we've got these finch that are around the Grand Canyon, and they look identical to the ones on the south end, look identical to the ones on the north end.
	But because they've been separated, their mating song has changed.
	And so they won't, the ones who combine, the ones from the south and the north, they won't mate with each other anymore.
	So they've evolved into different species, and they start calling them a different species.
	No, they're not. They're biologically identical.
	It's like Cormonati and the Pfizer-BioNTech.
	But legally, from an evolutionary biologist standpoint, they're legally distinct, just like Coronati and Pfizer BioNTech.
	If you have a virus that is hopscotching back and forth between cows, humans, and birds, then that virus is going to have selective pressures to grow efficiently in all of those species, says a virologist at the University of Saskatchewan.
	Well, we don't have a virus that is hopscotching back and forth between cows, humans, and birds, do we?
	That's a fundamental lie.
	It's not happening.
	And they go on to try to make this case.
	The constant interaction between humans and these vast numbers of animals makes cattle an extremely concerning reservoir for bird flu.
	Well, if there is constant interaction between these gazillions of cows and the humans who take care of them, you might also think about the fact that since no humans or cows have gotten sick in spite of this constant interaction, then maybe it's not being transmitted.
	If it was transmissible, don't you think you would have some people who are sick?
	And yet, you don't. And this article, though, will then bring back This tired canard of the guy who got pink eye.
	No fever. No congestion.
	No cold.
	No nothing. Nothing in his lungs.
	He got pink eye. And he was working with cattle.
	Therefore, he's got bird flu.
	Therefore, he's made of wood.
	There we go. This is like Monty Python science.
	It really is. When you see symptomatic patients, it's just the tip of the iceberg, said another falsely labeled scientific expert.
	We have awareness now from the COVID pandemic of how devastating that could be.
	And this is not a virus that's going to disappear by any means.
	And, of course, we have Trump's fear-monger-in-chief, Redfield.
	This is the next pandemic.
	This is the big thing.
	He's pushing it and pushing it and pushing it.
	Nothing has changed.
	There's no difference between Trump and Biden on this issue, folks.
	Trump is more dangerous because people who would oppose this and have opposed it under Biden will just back off and let Trump push this lie.
	And he will push the lie, just like he pushed it in 2020.
	A bird flu virus is possibly found in a handful of wastewater sites, says the CDC. You know what else is found in water sites?
	Fluoride. And the CDC has fought tooth and nail to keep that in there and to keep that hidden from people and to keep the effects of fluoride hidden.
	Yeah, fluoride is found.
	We've got SSRIs.
	We've got all kinds of disruptive chemicals that are not filtered out by the water systems and the wastewater sites.
	But be afraid.
	Be very afraid. Listen to how they carefully push this fear.
	This is NBC. So here's their headline.
	Bird flu virus is possibly found in a handful of wastewater sites, says the CDC. What do they mean by possibly?
	Well, further down in the article, it says the bird flu currently circulating in cows is a type of influenza A. So this is a category.
	This is not that specific bird flu.
	They didn't find specifically bird flu.
	They said they found influenza A. And bird flu is one type of many types of influenza A. They didn't come anywhere close to finding it.
	They magnify this stuff, as Kerry Mullis said.
	You know, you can find anything with this process of the PCR. You can find anything in the world magnifying it enough.
	And now they didn't find bird flu, but they found traces of influenza A. And influenza A is a broader category of which bird flu is one specific thing, but they didn't find bird flu specifically.
	So influenza A has been detected at a higher than average level.
	It's always there. And is it detected at a higher than average level of existence or a higher than average level of quote-unquote PCR magnification, right?
	Is it more magnification from PCR or is it a greater density?
	And of course, it's not bird flu.
	It's influenza A that is there.
	The agency is monitoring 260 people.
	CDC is monitoring 260 people who have been exposed to infected dairy cows for flu-like symptoms.
	Now, what does that tell you?
	See how they, the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
	They're spinning this.
	They're telling you the truth, but they're not telling you the whole truth.
	If they're monitoring 260 people looking for flu-like symptoms, they're implying that 260 people have flu-like symptoms.
	Not a single one does.
	They're monitoring them.
	They're hoping that they will get flu-like symptoms.
	But they're not getting flu-like symptoms.
	They got 260 people that they're watching, and you better believe that if one of them catches a cold, let's hope that they don't catch a summer cold.
	Because if one of these 260 people catches a cold, that's it.
	It'll be global headlines.
	A global pandemic.
	Bird flu has finally gotten out.
	I told you it was going to happen. They're monitoring 260 people for flu-like symptoms.
	But they haven't found any.
	And they're not even saying that they've tested positive with this PCR process, which is, again, an invalid test.
	And then they repeat this.
	We've had a severe case of conjunctivitis or pink eye.
	It's a kiddie disease.
	It was not severe.
	I showed you pictures. I said, there's all these pictures, you know, pink eye, uveitis, which, by the way, is an identified adverse effect from the Pfizer shot.
	And you can't tell the difference between pink eye from a gnat or from somebody wiping their dirty hands on their eyes.
	You can't tell the difference from conjunctivitis, which is from the outside, and uveitis, which is from the inside with these shots or some other thing like that.
	And I said, take a look at these, and can you tell which one is which?
	And so I showed a whole bunch of people who had pink eye, a whole bunch of people who had uveitis, and I showed the guy that had bird flu.
	Is he any worse than any of these other people?
	No. Some of the others are a lot worse than what he had.
	So, again, it's not flu.
	Nobody is sick. Not a single one.
	If one of them is sick, it'll be a worldwide global headlines.
	And it's not going to be if, but it'll be when.
	Eventually, as they're monitoring these 260 people, somebody's going to get sick with something.
	And even if it isn't a cold, if it's something like conjunctivitis pink eye, and they get sick with anything, they're going to call it bird flu.
	It doesn't even have to be the flu.
	They're going to call it that.
	It's absolutely amazing.
	Unrumble. Travagline says, give the animals ivermectin.
	Problem solved. Yeah, that's right.
	Hey, y'all, it's horse medicine.
	Why don't you give the horse medicine to the cows?
	Because you're giving all the bird flu tests to the cows.
	Give them some of the horse medicine that FDA says ivermectin is.
	Exactly right. CDC issues an urgent warning against raw milk.
	See? They've got their targets.
	Their targets are meat, dairy.
	Their targets are local production, local farms who might do something like raw meat and all that kind of stuff.
	So that's what they want to pin this on.
	Don't have any raw milk because of bird flu.
	Not a single person's sick.
	But again, always go to every story of false narrative.
	Every story is focusing on what they want to achieve.
	You know, their quote-unquote solution.
	And as I said before, former CDC director, this is the way it's always put out there by the By the Trump press.
	They don't identify that, you know, the headlines at least, that he is a Trump guy.
	The Trump guy that scared us, that lied to us in 2020, Robert Redfield.
	He says for the third time that the bird flu will be the next great pandemic.
	And again, he's talking about its gain of function and all the rest of this stuff.
	These people, these evolutionary biologists, don't pay them any attention.
	They are lying out one side of their mouth to the other.
	Let's take a quick look before we have our guest join us at the top of the hour.
	I got this email from Australia.
	Victoria, Australia. A listener there.
	Glad to know that you're listening in Australia.
	Said that this is what is happening in Australia.
	After banning gas cooking in new home buildings in Victoria, they're now coming after wood heaters.
	And they said, I'm confused.
	up until the early 80s in Victoria, everyone used to incinerate their garbage in the backyard.
	Nobody died in my neighborhood from all those fumes.
	However, all of a sudden, people are dying from wood fire smoke. I don't get it. Yeah.
	Yeah. If you're burning plastics or some other things, right, that could be very toxic fumes, but not wood.
	Well, here's the way this runs. And I had a long experience with this. Research Triangle Park in North Carolina. It's right around, it's You have three cities and have three universities.
	You've got NC State, you've got UNC, and you have Duke.
	And they're in Raleigh, Chapel Hill, and Durham, respectively.
	And in the center of that, they have a research area.
	And so they bring in a lot of different companies.
	I worked for one of them there.
	And EPA has a really big presence there.
	I knew some people who worked for EPA. I also knew some people who were, Steve Malloy and others, who were exposing the lies that they were doing in the EPA. When we built our house quite a bit before all this stuff happened, We had a guy who put it in and he said,
	yeah, I just did this for some guys who work for the EPA. They said that they had tested wood-fired fireplaces and they said this was by far and away the cleanest burning, most thorough burning of all of them because it had an inner ceramic core.
	You built a masonry thing around it and it had baffling that went up and down before it went out.
	So it burned everything pretty thoroughly.
	But, right at the time I was leaving North Carolina in 2012 to go to InfoWars, there was a situation that Stephen Malloy saw where they were looking for people who had respiratory and heart issues.
	And they brought that, and then some of them got sick, and so that got his attention, and he dug further, and he found that they were searching for people who had these issues.
	They were exposing them to fine particulate matter of 2.5 nanometers, and that's for diesel, right?
	And also for this type of thing, which is exactly what's happening there in Australia.
	They're still talking about fine particulate matter of 2.5.
	And as all that was happening, and they were doing that experiment, and they were exposing people to 72 times what they said was the maximum amount people should be exposed to.
	You had Obama's EPA director, Lisa Jackson, giving testimony in a little back-and-forth scripted thing with then-Congressman Ed Markey, who's now a senator.
	And she said, Congressman Markey, I'm not talking about people getting sick.
	I'm talking about people dying.
	We got people dying from fine particulate matter at a higher rate than people who are dying from cancer.
	She actually said that.
	And at that time, they were exposing people that they'd screened who were sick, who had respiratory and heart issues.
	They were exposing them to 72 times level that the EPA said was allowed When I did that report about them and I showed their website now they scrubbed it now But on their website, they said well smoky mountains, you know That's this is a good example and that was their picture at the top of the thing about fine particulate matter 2.5 Smoky mountains. This is an example of fine particulate matter Well, how profoundly do they not realize that the Smoky
	Mountains were called the Smoky Mountains by the Cherokee long before there was an industrial Long before there were wood fireplaces at a large enough amount to make it smoke?
	It's that way because of the condensation of the moisture and things like that.
	Whenever it rains, you see the Smoky Mountains get like that.
	But they try to make it about...
	Industrial pollution, about diesel engines and stuff.
	It was absolutely absurd, and I called them out on that.
	And we called them out because the people I've been working with sued them under the, said that you violated the prohibitions of experimenting on people without their consent, which, of course, we've now seen that done in spades, right?
	And so, you know, they were suing them with that.
	I did that. And I knew a guy from church who worked for the EPA in Research Triangle Park.
	And he was telling me about this because he didn't like what they were doing either.
	And he wasn't the source of the stuff, but what he told me was, he said, they're really upset about what you just said.
	I said, really? They're watching me?
	They're watching me? I was surprised that they were watching the stuff that I was doing.
	But it got their attention. They were being sued by these other guys.
	I was covering that. I was interviewing them.
	I was doing my own reports about the EPA and everything.
	And he said, and I just mentioned on air, I said, you know, one of the guys that I know at church told me that they're really upset about this.
	And I didn't mention his name or anything.
	But then he tells me, he says, I got called in on this.
	And he goes, we know you're the one who's talking to him and everything.
	And it's like, wow. So, yeah, it's been a long game.
	And now they're playing this game in Australia.
	And that's exactly what it is.
	Wood, heater, smoke is estimated to kill up to 63 people.
	They said in Australia, each year, prompting calls for a national ban.
	And again, they're playing all through this article that he sent, the big lie about how smoke from wood is causing people to die.
	We're not talking about them getting sick.
	And at the same time, he had the EPA exposing people to these extremely high levels.
	And again, it's PM 2.5.
	Particulate matter, 2.5 microns or so.
	Wood heaters are estimated to be in 900,000 Australian homes.
	Well, if that's the case, then why aren't people dropping dead left and right?
	As I said, they used to burn their garbage.
	A lot of that's going to be a lot more toxic They go through different geographical areas of Australia and projections and estimates.
	Oh, we think 11 to 15 deaths in the capital.
	We think 26 to 36 deaths annually during milder years I think wood heater use is highlighting pollution means only a few of them can affect entire neighborhoods.
	This is all just propaganda.
	It's all fear. It's all unbased.
	They said up to 40,000 wood heaters are sold in Australia each year.
	They're estimated to be in 900,000 homes.
	Well, then, again, by the same logic, if it's dangerous, there'd be a lot more deaths than 10 or 15, wouldn't there?
	When are we ever going to...
	When are we ever going to respond to these government and media reports with the right amount of skepticism and even cynicism?
	These people are cynical liars and propagandists, and we need to understand what is going on with that.
	And yet, of course, they'll respond by shutting things down and by censoring them, as they always do.
	When we...
	Look at the MAGA people, and it is interesting, you know, when you look at the purging of this and how even the fact that you have this former NFL star, Lawrence Taylor, showing up at the Trump rallies, and I have seen that in so many different places.
	Did you know that he is a convicted sex offender back in 2011?
	He was convicted of sex with a 16-year-old, a prostitute.
	He said, oh, I thought she was older.
	But they registered him as a sex offender And then they rearrested him 10 years later in 2021 because he didn't notify them of a change of address.
	But hey, you know, he is a football player.
	That's all that matters.
	We're just fine with whatever else.
	He's a football player and he supports Trump.
	So that's all we need to know. Nothing else really matters.
	We're going to take a quick break and we're going to be joined by Jay Warner Wallace.
	I think you're really going to enjoy this book.
	He is a former cold case detective.
	And the name of the book is The Truth in True Crime.
	You know, what can we learn from the kind of detective work that he was doing?
	We'll take a quick break, and we'll be right back.
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	you you Welcome back and joining us now is Jay Warner Wallace.
	He's been a guest once before.
	We've talked about his background.
	He was a cold case detective.
	This is somebody who goes back and investigates murder cases, things that don't have a statute of limitations, murder cases where perhaps all the witnesses have died and he's just going back looking at the physical evidence of it.
	He's now written a book called The Truth and True Crime and I love the tagline here.
	When investigating death, Teaches us about the meaning of life.
	It looks like a fantastic book, and so I wanted to get him on to talk about that one as well.
	Thank you for joining us, sir. Well, thanks for having me.
	I really appreciate it. This is my favorite book I've written so far, so I'm glad to talk about it.
	Oh, it looks like a great angle, and something that really affects all of us.
	And everybody loves the crime aspect, and the things that you glean from it, too, are really interesting, I think.
	Yeah, I think there's actually some hidden like I was not a Christian through all my career, but, you know, the first eight years or so, I was not a believer until I was thirty five.
	I became a believer by by examining the Gospels kind of from a forensic perspective.
	How do we know or why would we trust if we tested these people as eyewitnesses?
	Why would we even think, number one, that they are written by witnesses or even anybody who had access to eyewitnesses?
	And if you did believe that, how would you test them to see If they could pass the test.
	Now, once I was in, I started to look at human behavior a little bit differently.
	If you work murderers, you are seeing people at their rawest point, the point at which all of the bars are off.
	Sadly, when you get to the point where you're willing to do something crazy like this, It's probably because you've been pushed to a certain limit, and your true nature is now going to be revealed.
	And it really, I think, exposes all of our true nature.
	So I wanted to write a book that just talked about, like, what are these attributes, the 15 attributes of human flourishing that I discovered in 15 separate crime stories, and then talk about, you know, is that something, number one?
	Yeah, secular people, they do studies on this, and they confirm that these are 15 things that if you simply embrace these 15 principles, you will have a better life.
	But it turns out these are 15 ancient descriptions of human nature from Scripture that people, for the most part, think they're discovering them in the last three decades, when in fact these have been on the pages of the New Testament for 2,000 years.
	And so I really wanted to do a book where I kind of demonstrated that.
	That's amazing. Yeah, and why did you do a forensic investigation of Christianity in the first place?
	Well, I was 35, so I was probably about 1995 or 6, right in that range.
	It took me about 18 months, I would say, to complete the stuff that I was so skeptical.
	I'm not raised around Christians or anybody really who believed in God in a way they could articulate.
	So I didn't have like a leg up, like somebody who could say, hey, look at this or look at that.
	I had to come at it raw. And so I bought my first Bible.
	I was 35, and it took me a while to kind of go through the Gospels.
	And I was just tearing them apart from just word usage, you know, all the attributes.
	I wrote about this in a book called Cold Case Christianity.
	And that book just kind of covers that journey.
	But that's something that will get you to the point where you might believe it's true.
	Look, I think that as a boomer, as somebody who's older, I have a high value for whether something is true or not.
	And there are people in my generation who would probably agree.
	But I don't know that that's the case for young people, Gen Z and millennials.
	I think they're... Not as concerned about whether something's true because they co-opted that word.
	That word doesn't mean it's true anymore.
	It means it's true for me.
	That's right. It's true based on my lived experience or it's true based on how I have applied it to my life.
	It doesn't mean it's true for them.
	Now, when I use the word true, I'm using it in a more objective way.
	But it's true for all of us, whether we like it or not.
	I think that this generation I'm talking to now is more concerned about whether or not it's good.
	Because they believe they've been sold by the culture that Christianity is the source behind every evil intent, misogyny, racism, homophobia, whatever it may be.
	They are going to attribute it to this traditional Western culture worldview that we hold as Christians.
	So I wanted to show that, yeah, but if you didn't believe in Christianity, you're probably already employing its teaching.
	If you're flourishing.
	And the more you detach from its teaching, the more you're going to struggle.
	So this is what we're seeing in culture.
	And so I wrote a book this time, which really looks at all of the data.
	So most of my books I spend a lot of time researching.
	And although this book has about 50 pages in the printed edition of footnotes, there are 200 pages in the PDF file we provide online.
	Why? Because I want you to see that if I'm making this claim, it's supported by the data.
	But it turns out that that data simply supports what was claimed in Scripture 2,000 years ago.
	So it's eye-opening for me to realize that our human...
	It makes sense, though.
	Think about it. If we are designed by a Creator God who knows something about us and we are in His image, Then it turns out that that book we have, called Scripture, called the Bible, ought to describe us the way we really are.
	And if it does describe us the way we really are, you could consider that.
	I was listening to a pundit who usually talks about politics recently, who's Jewish.
	And when he defends why he's Jewish, he says, well, because it turns out that these principles work.
	I thought, oh, that's interesting.
	And he sees that as an evidence that the worldview is true.
	Okay. And by the way, that may or may not be an evidence that your worldview is true.
	But it strikes me that if your worldview is true, it ought to describe you the way you really are.
	And so in that sense, it could provide you with some insight into your human nature and how you can flourish.
	Yeah, it would be necessary.
	Not necessarily sufficient, but it would be necessary for that to be true.
	Yeah, that's right. Exactly right. Yeah, what's the most surprising thing that you found out about human nature in investigating this?
	Well, so every chapter is a crime story, right?
	So in one of these stories, I talk about celebrity and how sometimes when you are a local, especially in the gang cultures, if you're somebody who's known locally, you kind of become like a celebrity in your own neighborhood, or at least in your own clique or your own gang.
	And I've got one of these stories here to show how detrimental our pursuit of celebrity is.
	And the reason why I wrote that chapter is because I don't think it's just...
	It's not just a few of us who are seeking celebrity anymore.
	I mean, there are no gatekeepers.
	You know this. Even think about it.
	We are able not to develop our own personal platforms without a gatekeeper at NBC, ABC, or CBS. They used to be, or Salem, whatever the radio station was, that used to be the gatekeepers that kept people from becoming celebrity.
	Those are gone. So now all of us, if we can develop a following, we can make it from zero to a million listeners without any support.
	And that's where I think we have to be careful.
	It turns out that one of the most powerful attributes that we could adopt as humans that would change your life As a matter of fact, if you simply embraced this virtue, you will have increased flourishing in every single metric that we use to actually measure human flourishing.
	Longevity, mental health, physical health, the deepness of your relationships, the improvement will improve your marriage, they'll make you a better employer, a better employee, you'll learn at a higher level, you'll get better grades, you'll make more money.
	Every way that we measure Humility flourishing improves if you simply adopt this one thing.
	And it's really the opposite of celebrity.
	It is the attribute we know as humility.
	Now, they've been studying this for about three decades and looking at all kinds of studies that are out there that talks about how humble people succeed at levels that are far higher than the rest of us and why that might be true.
	Okay, fine. But it turns out that humility is one of those things that I think if I ask people, hey, what do you think is the one attribute you could adopt that would help you in every aspect of your life at a higher level than anything else?
	I don't think many people would come up with humility.
	But it turns out, yeah, it is actually the thing we need to embrace.
	Now, what's interesting about that, think about every worldview that's out there.
	None of them leverage humility like the Christian worldview.
	What I mean is, if your theistic worldview, your spiritual worldview encourages you to do these certain things to reach the highest level that your spiritual worldview offers.
	In other words, if it is about earning something, it's a transaction between you and God, a transaction between you and the universe, there's no way to avoid pride in that kind of a system.
	Because at some point, you're going to look across the room and say, I'm doing better than that did.
	We measure based on our achievements, right?
	And I have a friend who's now no longer with us named Mike Adams.
	Mike and I would travel and do a lot of events together, and he used to always tease, I read this book, How to Become Humble in 10 Easy Steps and How I Made It in 8.
	There's no way that you can pursue humility without at some point doing just the opposite and becoming prideful.
	So it turns out that humility is an assessment.
	Spurgeon calls it the proper assessment of who we are before a holy God.
	Now, Christianity leverages this because it's the one worldview that says, no, it's not a transaction.
	There's nothing you can do to earn this.
	As a matter of fact, whatever the highest thing you think you hope to achieve in your worldview is, we're going to give it to you.
	It's a free gift over here.
	Why? So that Paul says no one can boast.
	It's an antidote to pride and celebrity.
	It's an antidote to look what I did.
	It's look what's been done for me.
	This view requires us to begin in humility because if you have to say, okay, there's God and it's not me.
	Yeah. Well, that's a very humble position.
	I'm not the god of my own.
	I'm not the center of my own decision-making universe.
	Well, this begins and ends, and our Savior says, Paul says, have the attitude that Jesus had, who, although he existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, but instead emptied himself, taking the form of a bondservant.
	In other words, it's all humility start to finish.
	And as difficult as that is for us to achieve, if we don't recognize its power in our lives, we'll never even try to submit.
	So, I just want to spend one chapter in these 15 chapters talking about the role that celebrity plays and by the way, almost every crime you're going to, well, every crime you're going to commit is driven by these three, it's a different chapter, but these three prideful motives.
	It's the pursuit of money, the pursuit of sex, or the pursuit of power.
	Now, that pursuit of power, that's a huge category of misbehavior.
	And that's where celebrity fits.
	All of us, look, you and I both, would we like more people to listen to what we're saying?
	Of course we would. So although we might protect ourselves from the pursuit of money and the pursuit of sex, knowing that that can derail us, We don't usually protect ourselves from the pursuit of celebrity.
	In fact, what we typically do is want to increase that area of our life so we can argue, oh, because I want to reach more people with this divine message.
	Really? So we will increase this celebrity.
	Now, here's the danger in it, and this is a different chapter, but there's a danger in this.
	I have never known anyone of those three motives for misbehavior, and there are only three.
	There's not a fourth motive. There isn't.
	And you can discover this secularly working as a homicide detective, or you can discover this on the pages of scripture because John writes about it in one of his letters.
	But the point is, there's only three motives out there for stupid.
	And if you don't protect yourself from those three motives for stupid, you will eventually do one of them.
	Now, here's what I've noticed. If you begin to scratch one of those itches, you will eventually scratch the other two.
	Because the other two become available to you on the basis of what you've achieved in the third.
	So you see this in even Christian leaders, right?
	Where they fall for someone. Why?
	Well, here's why, in my opinion.
	Because as a congregation or as your deacon board or your elder board, they're trying to protect their pastors from the sex and money.
	But everyone wants their pastor to be known more so they can build a bigger church.
	And when you increase your celebrity, you only open the door to the other two.
	So, this is why I've struggled with this, even in writing this book.
	Because as I'm writing this book, if I'm going to heed my own advice, I have to do less of this.
	Because it turns out, all of this, talking about a book you've written, is about you trying to amplify your platform, amplify your influence in culture.
	By the way, all three of these things have been designed by God.
	For His glory and for our good.
	We just happen to distort them.
	So sex, money, and power is something that God is giving us in a positive way.
	This is another chapter in the book.
	It's a chapter about a guy who was basically homeless and was killed.
	And I'm thinking, what are these three motives?
	What did this killer have to gain from this homeless guy who was so sweet?
	They called him Santa Claus because he looked like Santa Claus, and he was as sweet as Santa Claus.
	And what does he offer in terms of sex, money, or power that would be worthy of killing him?
	Well, here's what happens, is that when we focus on those things that are given to us by God instead of on the God who gave them to us, we're stopping one level short of our worship, and we all worship.
	Everyone worships whether you're a believer or not.
	There's something that you think is of utmost importance that you dare not take that from me because that's the thing that I covet.
	And this idolatry is what causes us.
	So in this particular case, this poor guy had slipped over.
	He was recycling stuff.
	Every day he would go out, spend the first half of his day picking up trash cans, going through trash cans, picking up recyclables.
	Then he would take them to the recycling center and get just enough money to go, and he would buy alcohol and food in the afternoon, and that was his day every day.
	Very, very workmanlike.
	And he had slipped into an area of our city that another guy who was doing the same thing felt was his alley.
	Don't be picking trash out of those two cans.
	And although the amount of money that Santa Claus probably got from that was pennies, dollars maybe, It was enough.
	So he confronted this guy.
	He confronted Santa Claus and said, don't be doing that anymore at a recycling center.
	And Santa Claus kind of just blew him off.
	Well, it turned out in that one moment, he had triggered the two of the three things.
	Number one, he had disrespected him.
	So the idea of power, authority, respect, that's in the third category.
	Now I'm upset because you disrespected me in front of my peers.
	Two, you're taking pennies or dollars, but because I've turned both of these things, I covet them at a high level.
	I've now turned them into idols.
	They are not... Try to destroy my idols.
	And that night, he stabbed him to death over virtually nothing.
	This is the power of idolatry.
	And by the way, it's not just people you work and work in homicides.
	It's all of us.
	And so on that chapter, what I try to do in every chapter is show you, hey, if this is your struggle, whatever these things are, Here's a way for you to address it.
	And in this chapter, I just ask 15 questions.
	You want to know what your idols are?
	Because we all have them. Ask these 15 questions and you'll probably identify them.
	And then once you've identified them, you can start to actually think, okay, look, it's something that God has created rather than the God who created it.
	We simply have to transfer our worship up one level.
	Just from the level where we're stopped in God's creation and back to the creator.
	And so it's something that if you do it, you will flourish.
	Number one, you'll protect yourself from stupid.
	And number two, you'll actually start to pursue the things that contribute to a meaningful life.
	And how do you do that? Do you do that with thankfulness?
	Because when you say, thank God for what that is, and sincerely think about what it is that God has given you, you look at it as not something that you've achieved, then that does move it to the higher level.
	And that's helpful with that.
	Now again, I'm skipping across a number of different chapters here, but yeah, I think you're right.
	I think that part of it is that what I've discovered, and it's true for all of us, is the least thankful people are the people who think they have nothing to be thankful for, or the least forgiving people are the people who think they have nothing to be forgiven for.
	So it does turn out that a proper assessment of who you are Because it's really easy for me to think, well, everything I've got in my life, I achieved that.
	Yes. I am the reason for all my success, the reason for everything I've ever possessed.
	If that's your view, well, that kind of pride doesn't lead anywhere positive.
	That's right. Because anytime anyone challenges that that might not be the case, you're now offended.
	And so it turns out that whatever it is we've worshipped, that becomes the master.
	The master that you dare not question.
	The master that I'm now willing to give up tons of time for, resources for.
	I gotta say, you know, I had that early on when I was young.
	I had a lot of success with a lot of stuff, very easily.
	And I did think it was what I had done.
	And I've got to say, it was such an amazing blessing for God to take that away from me and humble me.
	And that's exactly what it was.
	And I thank God for taking that away from me.
	One of the biggest blessings of my life.
	And you're absolutely, and I think you and I as guys, we are even more prone to this because, and this is a different, this is chapter two of the book, it's an identity issue for us.
	I mean, a lot of it is, is that I don't have my, as a Christian, I ought to have my identity in Christ.
	But the way we form identity, and I covered this in the book, we don't typically form it that way.
	What we typically do instead is we form it as men in our achievements, in what it is we've achieved.
	So if I ask, you know, who are you, David?
	Well, you're going to say, I'm the host of the show.
	If you said, who are you, Jim?
	Well, I'm a cold case detective.
	Is that who I am?
	Look, I haven't been in a Dateline episode in three years.
	At some point, you need to say, okay, who are you really, Jim?
	And this struggle of identity is so key to how we function in the world.
	Because identity really exposes our forms of worship.
	Because I guarantee, as men, we typically form our worship based on what we do.
	You know, identity, when you study it in the surveys and the research on this, it's inseparable from value and purpose.
	And unfortunately, a lot of us form our identity based on In reverse.
	In other words, we ask the question, where am I valuable?
	What am I good at? What do I have purpose in?
	That's who I am. Rather than say, well, no, who am I? I want to form my value and purpose based on my identity first, not my identity based on my value and purpose.
	Because that's the problem.
	Because there's nothing but pride that comes out of forming your identity based on what you're good at.
	Because it's about what you're good at.
	And it's the biggest one single move that leads to contentment.
	It's to reform your identity, not based on what you can achieve, but based on what you receive from a holy God.
	That is amazing. When you're talking about that, you say, you know, how do you define yourself?
	Is it the show that you have?
	Is it the book that you've written? Is it the career that you have?
	It makes me think back to the Austrian Empire when they would have their emperors die.
	They had these big elaborate funerals, and they would take them to this amazing crypt.
	Actually, I've been there with my family to see this thing, and it truly is amazing.
	And they would have, as they bring the body into the crypt, they would knock and the person inside would say, who goes there?
	And they would give all of the big political titles.
	You know, he's an emperor of this and the king of that and all the rest of the stuff.
	I don't know him. And then they would knock again and they'd say, who is it?
	And he would give family relationships, right, that he has.
	I don't know him. And then he'd knock a third time and it would say, and he'd say, a humble sinner, Franz Josef.
	I know him. Enter.
	You know? That's kind of an interesting question.
	Awesome. Yeah. That's an awesome, just a word picture of what we're talking about here.
	No, this is something that is, and I don't know how much time we have on this, but let me just say, I've got a friend named Joe Martin, who is a doctor, who is a philosopher and a theologian.
	Yeah. We've got plenty of time, by the way.
	Okay, good. So he says that men are all about the Asians.
	When we have conversations, it's all about the Asians.
	And I think it does expose how we form identity.
	So, for example, he would say when we meet another guy, we shake hands and we say, what do you do?
	Mm-hmm. First Asian is occupation.
	Okay? That's the first Asian.
	And we're not really asking, what do you do?
	We are, because of how we form identity as men, we're asking, who are you?
	Now, as we ask that, all identity, remember, is comparative.
	It's not about, well, how wealthy are you?
	It's how wealthy are you compared to this guy or everybody else.
	That's how you know if you're wealthy.
	How smart are you compared to others?
	Sadly, identity is formed by comparing.
	And that's why it's so prideful, right?
	Because we have a tendency to say, well, I'm better over here.
	I'm better over there. So occupation is the first nation.
	And then when we're measuring, we're saying, okay, well, I know what that job requires in terms of Education.
	Second Asian. Now we're saying, well, he's better educated, or I'm better educated.
	We're measuring.
	Here we are in that first conversation with another guy, and by asking, what is your occupation, we're starting to measure the other Asians.
	Second one is education.
	Third, we're asking, well, I know what that makes.
	If you're a surgeon, or if you're an accountant, whatever it is, you're measuring compensation.
	That's the next Asian. Yeah.
	So at some point, then you're asking too, how good are you at this?
	You could be a doctor, but just be a terrible doctor.
	Reputation is the next Asian.
	What are we doing here?
	Well, we're measuring based on, we're assigning value Based on the answers here.
	And if you're a guy, if you're a cop especially, you could be somebody that's got nothing more than a high school education and you're working as a patrol officer and you're not even making that much money.
	You've never, you know, tried to do anything other...
	But if you're 6'8 and cut like a Greek god, you're still the biggest dog in the room because now it's about intimidation at the last station.
	So I think he's got a point.
	It's very enlightening. I'm sure that for all of us, if you're not a guy, you're a woman, and you're listening to this, then there's probably some other level of it.
	But be honest. We do this all the time.
	And because identity is comparative, it really rears its head most notably in group gatherings, where you're introducing yourself.
	Because now you're getting the opportunity to compare.
	Well, there's the danger in it.
	And identity becomes the thing that sadly is behind so much Of our trauma and struggle.
	This is a separate chapter of this book, but I'll give you an example of this.
	We would do a lot of work now with officers through Billy Graham Association in the summer.
	So we're getting ready to leave in two weeks here to do the first of six weeks of counseling for marriage resiliency for officers who have been involved in critical incidents and now they're struggling in their marriage.
	And sometimes they don't even get there before they get a divorce.
	They get a divorce and say, we're not coming...
	I always say, just hold on.
	Just try to get through this trip first before you make a decision that big.
	But this is the dire straits they're in.
	Okay. I discovered probably three or four years ago that the thing that is the biggest struggle for officers is, especially if you're injured, is identity.
	It turns out that if you were to look at all of the trauma in your life, whatever it was, if it was an injury you suffered, a divorce, a loss of a job, a child being lost, whatever it was you suffered in a trauma, you'll see that at that same point you were suffering the trauma, you had a relatively dramatic shift in your identity.
	You thought of yourself as married, now you're divorced.
	You see yourself differently.
	Identity is simply how you continuously see yourself.
	The self is at the issue.
	And every time you suffer a trauma, you suffer an identity shift.
	So it's interesting that trauma typically causes an identity shift, but the opposite is also true.
	An identity shift often causes trauma.
	So if you wanted to protect yourself from trauma or minimize the kind of trauma you'll experience, you need to put your identity in something that can't be shifted, stolen from you, taken from you, bruised in some way, damaged in some way.
	And of the three ways that we form identity, inside out, outside in, or topside down, only one of these three ways is stable enough to protect you from shifting.
	If you're forming your identity outside in, where you say, like, this is how the ancients did it, you know, this thing outside of me existed before I was ever born, and I'm just going to reach out and grab that and form my identity.
	So it's a tribe. It's the tribe I was raised in.
	It's the... It's the name of my family name.
	It's the profession of my family.
	We're all cops, so that's who I am.
	Okay, that's outside-in identity.
	And all of us do some of that.
	Inside-out, based on my desires, my preferences, even my sexual preferences.
	I'm going to ask you, outside of me, to identify me based on my innate heart's desires.
	Okay, that's inside-out identity.
	Both of those are unstable. Because at some point, your job ends.
	You're going to retire. Then who are you then?
	Or you're going to get injured.
	Or your desires are going to change because your heart is fickle.
	It's just the nature of it.
	Well, then get ready to suffer some trauma.
	on the course. Now if you formed your identity topside down, where you put it in something that's transcendent and unchanging, then you're going to have lows in your life of course, but they're going to be not quite as deep. Because the day before you suffered the injury, you were a child of, you were in Christ that day. The day after you suffer the injury, you're still in Christ. You're still the same.
	God sees you the same way.
	Now, are you going to struggle because you're injured?
	Of course. But who you are hasn't changed.
	And it turns out, that's the thing that we struggle with the most, even in an injury.
	It's not so much just the pain of the injury.
	It's, who am I now?
	And that's why we have to really be serious about our identity formation or we're going to find ourselves.
	It's about human flourishing.
	It really is. And of course, you know, it's about integrity.
	We often think about integrity as how other people perceive us or something, but it really is how you perceive yourself.
	Do you have that integrity?
	And you have that integrity if you're thinking about that from top down.
	This is so wise.
	I'm really enjoying listening to you talk about this.
	And I think about how unique things are right now.
	As you began talking about that, you said, you know, this lure of being famous or a lot of people following you, that all comes with social media stuff.
	It truly is amazing to me to see that and how that has transformed younger people.
	And it is such a transformational thing to think that there is some value in having a bunch of people that you don't know.
	You know, following you and everything, that you're focusing on that.
	It's amazing. Yeah, that is something that we take for granted, David.
	We take it for granted because, yes, we are now in an age, the information age has become the identity age.
	Why? Because, how do we start?
	If you go on our social media platforms, what's the very first thing?
	We have a moniker. Like, what is the public name I'm going to adopt that I want you to see me as?
	Yes. Second, we're going to put a bio.
	Now we're going to list a series of priorities, identity priorities in the bio.
	So all of this, then we're going to spend the next how many years on social media posting only in a way that amplifies the way I already want you to see me.
	That's right. So I'm not going to reveal something of myself that violates the identity I've already established.
	And even if I'm not even thinking about it, my posts always expose who I am.
	And there were times in generations prior where you didn't know who people were and the way you know who they are now.
	Having access to everything we think gives people complete access to who we really are.
	And I think we know that if we're a public figure, and so we're careful.
	You know, I never post anything about my family on social media.
	I stay pretty focused in that area of what it is I'm trying to communicate related to the gospel.
	And I just stay focused on that.
	Now, that gives people a view of me that's not actually true.
	It's the view that I'm crafting for them.
	And we have to be aware of that.
	But everyone does that.
	I see people I follow who you think all they do is eat.
	But it's not just that we are in some way forming and sharing our identity.
	It's that we are also revealing our idols.
	We're revealing our priorities.
	We're revealing the stuff that we think is so consequential, so important, that we are willing to To proclaim it.
	That's one of the ways you can see what your idols are.
	Ask yourself, like, look at your social media streams.
	I want to know what your idols are.
	I can kind of figure it out if you've got a social media platform, right?
	That's right. Yeah, we've got a full life log that is up there.
	And, you know, it's such a shallow thing as we're talking about with social media.
	It's there so that, you know, you can glorify yourself.
	Isn't it interesting that in the last days people become such lovers of self to the extent that we've never had those tools to magnify this particular level?
	And I think at some point we're going to see that this is not beneficial to our well-being.
	And we're going to voluntarily pull back a little bit.
	Or we're going to reach a point in our lives where we're going to burn out on it.
	So you might be more active on social media at some point in your life than you are later.
	But I'm also trying to be very careful not to be the old guy who's just shaking his fist at the moon, right?
	Because I use social media as much as anybody else.
	But I do want us to be very practical about it.
	Like, look, if we're trying to protect ourselves from what causes us to do bad things, we have to have a very honest assessment of who we are.
	Are we, this is a different chapter in the book, but are we by nature innocent, born innocent, born virtuous, and we are corrupted by our families, by our environments, by the systems that are in place, even from government systems?
	Is that who we are? Or is the flip true, that we are by nature fallen and depraved enough that no matter what system you put us in, we'll find a way to corrupt it, even religious systems?
	Which of those two things is true?
	We need to figure that out because if the second is true, which has always been the claim of the Christian worldview that we are by nature Fallen well now we can explain certain aspects of what happens in culture and we can put our resources in the right direction Look Luther put it this way. We are so inwardly focused that we can take even things that are good and Corrupt them and do them for suffers. You can even behave Uber morally, but you're doing it for selfish reasons. Yeah,
	even our efforts to do something Godly are entirely depraved and selfish as what his claim is This is what you find also in the modern studies about altruism like people are trying to figure out like well How could it be that someone who's could be a Pulitzer Prize winner can also kill his spouse or her spouse?
	How could that be?
	How could it be that there's somebody who for the last 30 years has been an exemplar in our community?
	The deacon at the church, the doctor who delivered my babies, yet 30 years ago he killed his wife.
	How could that be? There's no way he could be that duplicit, is there?
	This enigma of man has to be sorted out. Now, what I see in the studies is that, yes, we do have good examples of the altruism of humans.
	Humans are capable of great altruism. They are. Until it doesn't serve them personally.
	So, in other words, the studies show that humans are usually pretty generous until resources get tight.
	Then we start hoarding toilet paper.
	Well, why are we doing that?
	Because we are at our base nature, self-serving.
	And even when we are doing good for others, it serves us in some way.
	That's why we're doing it.
	We wanna be seen a certain way.
	Very seldom do you see people who you know do good things who aren't proclaiming to you that they do good things.
	That's how you know they're doing good things.
	Well, that's because that proclamation is what they're really after.
	Yeah. Okay.
	That's the truth.
	If that's the case, then now we can make a proper assessment of our own condition.
	Number one, it causes me to know that I am not trustworthy.
	That I am no different.
	Number one, it's leveled the field for me.
	So I never went into an interview once I had this realization.
	I never went into an interview and thought I was somehow better than the guy I was interviewing.
	No, I knew that we're all the same person.
	But for the grace of God, my buttons haven't been pushed the way that this poor guy's buttons have been pushed.
	Now, look, this is not to try to elevate people who do bad behavior.
	I'm a justice guy, so we're going to take care of this.
	But... I recognize that I am just like him.
	We are all just like him.
	When you watch an episode of Dateline, I'm hoping you're not sitting there going, yeah, what an idiot.
	I hope you watch it with a certain amount of introspection and you're thinking, ugh.
	That could easily have been me.
	Yeah.
	Because that is where humility begins.
	It begins when you realize the proper role.
	And by the way, if you know the fallen nature of humans, if you know, that's really true.
	Well, that also changes the way you you establish systems.
	This is why our country was built in a way that had the kinds of checks and balances between the three arms of the federal government.
	Why is that there?
	Because the people who formed it knew you can't trust people.
	You can't trust humans.
	We are by nature fallen.
	If we don't have a way to check and balance each other, if we don't have a community, basically, this is why the Christian worldview is not lived in isolation.
	Because this is why marriage is so...
	This is another chapter of the book. Why marriage is so important.
	Because I'm close enough to another human that I've given her permission to tell me where I'm wrong.
	I've given her permission to help shape me toward what it is God wants for me.
	And if you're not in a relationship with somebody who you know well enough to have given them permission to tell you what an idiot you are right now, and you don't have true friends, and you don't have the kind of relationship that'll urge you towards something better.
	So it turns out that those are other things that sociologists have discovered.
	There was a chapter in here about true friendship. Well, why?
	Because I've worked so many cases where people were killed by somebody they thought was their true friend.
	Well, so what is the nature of quality relationships?
	Well, you need to kind of dig into that because it turns out that there are some relationships that, if you're listening, that you're holding right now that are hurting you, that are detrimental to your well-being.
	And that might, at some point, by the way, likely, the first thing I'm going to do if I'm working on your homicide is I'm going to look back at all your relationships because the chances are that if somebody you knew really well Who killed you?
	And in the end, we have to ask the question, what am I doing wrong that I'm hanging out with somebody who I have not in some way vetted better, you know?
	So I think a lot of this is important for us as Christians to say, by the way, the scripture has an antidote for that.
	The Christians got great guidance for that.
	We just haven't been paying attention in this generation, it seems.
	Yeah, you have a statement.
	Many crime stories are centered around poor relationships.
	You know, not having a relationship or having a relationship that's going to, I guess, goad you into that, right?
	Some way. Yeah, I mean, this is why.
	So if you're looking at what causes, and we've got enough time, I think, here to cover this.
	If you look at what is causing, what really describes relationships that will cause you to flourish.
	It turns out that studies show this.
	One of the longest studies ever done on human happiness looked like a 60-year study that was done and really revealed that it is your relationships that are at the key, the core of what causes you to feel content, to be happy, to have a satisfying life.
	But it's not just any kind of relationship.
	It turns out it's the kind of deep relationships that you cannot have with hundreds of people on social media.
	So there's three things.
	Three things that lead to flourishing in your relationships.
	Here they are. First, you need deep, committed relationships with people you've given permission to.
	To be like a brother.
	To say, hey, you know what, dude? You're off the rails here.
	And that has to be with a small number of people.
	You can't have those kinds of deep committed relationships because they require a certain amount of vulnerability and a certain amount of time.
	So if you're somebody who says, I know lots of people.
	I got lots of friends. Well, they're probably not then these kinds of friends.
	You need to have a small number of deeply committed relationships with the third piece.
	Virtuous people. Now, here's the reason why.
	I've met lots of folks who are deeply connected to others who are not virtuous.
	And they're basically part of their crime family.
	And so you can have deep connected relationships that lead you astray because there's no virtue.
	Now, here's the tricky question.
	What do we call virtuous?
	Who gets to decide? So there's a code of ethics amongst gangsters.
	Is that what is virtuous?
	They would say, hey, if you offend us, we're going to come over there and kill you.
	That's just the code. You knew better before you did that.
	You should have known that was coming. Because you know that's what you're going to get.
	And so, who just gets to decide what is righteous, right, or wrong?
	Virtuous? Who gets to decide that?
	Is it a group of people?
	Or is it a single individual?
	Or is there something that transcends all of us, that it overarches all communities?
	So it turns out that virtue is something that does require a transcendent, unchanging, overarching virtue giver.
	The authority that we would actually say virtue is grounded in, because if we say it's grounded in groups, then get ready for all kinds of stupid.
	And we're already seeing this, because what's virtuous to, even politically, what's virtuous to one side or the other is very different, and we're arguing as if there's no transcendent overarching virtue.
	So this is one of those areas, your relationships, that does benefit from a worldview in which you can ground virtue objectively.
	There's a couple of places where that happens in this book, but this is one that's very important.
	Because we can say, you tell your kids all the time, but don't be handled as digital bad people.
	Who gets to decide they're bad?
	This is now suddenly is going to have to cause us to think about how we ground good and bad.
	How do we ground righteousness?
	And if you're going to ground it in just the opinion of people, well, that's every case I work.
	At some point, we have to be wiser than that.
	And that's why I think it's important for us to adopt the one worldview grounded in humility that provides you with an objective transcendent source for virtue.
	That is such great wisdom.
	I'm really looking forward to reading this book, and of course it's just come out.
	But it is available now, right?
	Yes, it's available now, and I appreciate it.
	You can learn more at thetruthandtruecrime.com, thetruthandtruecrime.com.
	And because I'm so sensitive to the idea that this should not be about us just building a platform and trying to sell something, what we do at that website, you'll see there's a ton of free stuff that comes with a purchase.
	We simply wanted to try to level that a little bit.
	Right? So that you don't feel like this is about spending money on a book.
	I really want to advance the causes that are in the book.
	And that's the challenge, of course.
	Excellent. Excellent book. Again, it is The Truth in True Crime.
	That's I-N, not and.
	TheTruthInTrueCrime.com. And just before you go, I know you've got to go.
	This message is from Guard Goldsmith on Rock Finney.
	He says, thank you both. Cold Case Christianity is excellent.
	And in the conversation today, I'm reminded that the trap that even catches people who try to spread freedom messages or biblical messages, it seems that one must beware of commoditizing oneself.
	Difficult to promote one's work, even freedom or biblical work without that promotion becoming self-promoting rather than praising God.
	That's absolutely so good.
	So good. Yeah, that's a great observation.
	He's written me before. He loved Cold Case Christianity, which he got the first time I interviewed you.
	But I'm really looking forward to The Truth in True Crime.
	And again, there's a website, thetruthintruecrime.com.
	Thank you so much for joining us, sir.
	Excellent stuff and such wisdom.
	It truly is amazing.
	Looking forward to reading it myself.
	Thank you. Well, I'm indebted to you.
	Thanks so much for having me on.
	Well, thank you. Folks, we're going to take a quick break, and we'll be right back.
	Stay with us. But unlike most revolutions, where the people rise against a real economic oppression, in our case here in Boston, we are fighting for purely an abstract principle.
	It is, however, not nearly so abstract as the young gentleman supposes.
	The issue involved here is one of monopoly.
	Today the British government will monopolize the sale of tea in our country.
	Tomorrow it will be something else.
	I'm going to be a hero.
	You're listening to The David Knight Show.
	It's always great listening to J. Warner Wallace.
	I really enjoy that.
	And on Rockfin, thank you very much, Doug.
	I appreciate the tip there as well.
	When I asked him about what it was that got him to investigate, he actually started investigating because his wife became a Christian.
	And I thought it was really funny.
	This last weekend, my wife was talking to somebody at church where we go, and her husband is a Christian and a cop who attends that church, and a really great guy.
	And she said, yeah, she became a Christian, and she said he really didn't like that.
	He even told her, he says, yeah, I liked you better before you were a Christian.
	And For the same reason that J. Warner Wallace started doing an investigation.
	He did it. And she said, after a few months, he came back to her and he had read through the Bible twice at that point in time.
	And he said, I've become a Christian.
	I'm kind of surprised and stunned by that.
	But yeah, it is interesting.
	You know, God's Word will accomplish the purpose for which He sent it.
	And like I was saying the other day, you know, we look at these people's reactions to artificial intelligence, Yeah, there was a little bit of change there by people who were self-identifying as Christians, and people who were, as they put it, quote, scripture-engaged.
	They defined that as reading the Bible two or three times a year.
	And they don't mean reading it through two or three times from cover to cover.
	They mean just picking it up and glancing at it and reading it for a little bit two or three times a year.
	You know, outside of something that they might hear at Easter and Christmas or something like that.
	You have to invest the time for it to really have a change.
	You have to actually read it.
	And then it will make a big change in your life.
	In the time that we got left, I want to go back to some of the climate stuff.
	because there are some major things that are coming along.
	But remember, as we always look at this, there's two key things that carry over into all these other areas.
	One of them is to the great reset aspect, the depopulation aspect.
	Taking away food, fuel, and many other things like that to impoverish and enslave us.
	And then also, key in all of that is taking away our ability to speak.
	And out of the UK, we get yet another one of these stories.
	On GB News, Great Britain News, a British environmentalist I was having a back-and-forth, a debate with Andrew Doyle, and the environmentalist was Jim Dale, and he was saying basically what RFK Jr.
	said, jail the deniers.
	You disagree with my religion, climate change, I'm going to throw you in jail.
	According to the environmentalist Jim Dale, climate skeptics would still be allowed to talk to family and friends.
	Nobody, he said, would kick in the door.
	But you would face criminal sanctions if they, quote, pollute people, unquote, by voicing their opinion in public.
	Very much what they want to do with religion, that type of thing.
	And it always begins that way, but eventually it ends with them kicking the door in.
	They don't stop at that.
	As for an example of how climate denial could be suppressed with criminal sanctions, Jim Dale suggested it would be like racism that has been driven from public discourse.
	Oh, has it? Britain has very harsh anti-hate speech laws, and we've seen those used against Christians, haven't we?
	In the sense that, well, if you say that certain activity is harmful for the individual or that it's a sin, even if you point out that God has, you're still alive, God has extended grace to you to give you an opportunity to change, and it's a free grace that is there.
	But even if you say that, that's not good enough, right?
	Andrew Doyle tried to get Jim Dale to admit there's a few issues with banning disagreement.
	He cited an example about how people who questioned the narrative about COVID were vigorously suppressed.
	Now, he talks about the COVID lab thing.
	But again, even more so.
	Vaccines and deaths. Does it really matter how this thing started?
	What was the result of all this?
	And if you can't talk about people who've been injured by their solution...
	People have been killed by their solution.
	That is a far more important thing than what basically has become a side issue, a red herring, and that is, how did this virus come?
	I don't see any evidence of it having any effect.
	And so it doesn't really matter to me, and I think that part of it is a distraction.
	But the fact that accounts will be deleted in that time, the reality of climate change, The Earth is currently experiencing a very cold period by geological standards.
	And it is true.
	You know, when we look at this and we look at what is happening in the Antarctic, there's evidence now that just a few thousand years ago, there are a lot of mammal bones that they found.
	They tried to say, well, maybe that was human.
	There's no evidence of any human activity whatsoever.
	But animals that could not survive in that weather were roaming freely up in the Antarctic at that time.
	Gradually, the truth is coming out.
	And those who are seeking the truth Are not trying to shut down and to censor those who are truly investigating it.
	But we need to understand they're going to just jump to these end-game solutions.
	And when we look at the push from California, and we look at the push from Washington, the push from Gavin Newsom and the push from Joe Biden, one of the things that they're pushing right now is electric semi-trucks.
	And so you got a lot of states that are pushing back on this to try to slow that down or to halt it altogether.
	Because we know what's going to happen.
	This is not ready.
	And it's going to cripple the infrastructure, cripple the economy.
	So we have...
	Several state attorneys general who are now pushing back against these arbitrary rules that have been pushed out by Biden's EPA. Again, it's the EPA that is always trying to, they want to kill the power plants, they want to kill diesel trucks, they want to kill cars, they want to kill ranges and heaters, gas ranges, gas heaters, any of that kind of stuff, fireplaces, you name it.
	And everything has to be electric as they're pulling down the power plant at the same time.
	Maybe what we should do is...
	Maybe we should keep the power plants and the trucks and the cars and the ranges and the heaters and the fireplaces.
	Maybe we could kill the EPA instead, right?
	Because it's unconstitutional.
	It's another one of these Nixon things that were put in.
	I think we need to get rid of it.
	As I point out...
	The EPA does not have, this is a letter from the Attorney General, EPA does not have, neither does California, the constitutional power to dictate these nationwide rules to Americans.
	Of course, California is using this alliance of several states who said, well, whatever California does, we're going to follow that.
	I'm proud to lead the efforts to stop these unconstitutional attempts to remake our economy.
	I'm grateful to our sister states for joining our coalition.
	And so this is Nebraska Attorney General Mike Hilgers, a Republican.
	He said, California and an unaccountable EPA are trying to transform our national trucking industry.
	And our supply chain infrastructure.
	This effort, coming at a time of heightened inflation and with already strained electric grid, will devastate the trucking and logistics industry.
	It'll raise prices for customers.
	It'll impact untold numbers of jobs across Nebraska and the country.
	Yeah, if you're going to dictate something to somebody, you might want to see if it works.
	But we've had enough of these unworkable, unaffordable, unconstitutional rules.
	These people who decide that they are going to rule us by executive order, rule us by bureaucratic fiat and dictates.
	Have you had enough of the regulation without representation thing?
	I think I have. And if we don't fight back against this, and we don't push back against this, and at least we're now getting a few state attorneys general that are doing that.
	If we don't push back against that, they truly will turn us into poor slaves.
	That's the intention. Thank you for joining us.
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