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Oct. 9, 2025 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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Peace Deal Announced, Plus Interview with The Federalist's Sean Davis | TRIGGERED Ep.281
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Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
What an absolutely historic day for peace.
What an incredible day for American strength.
And what a revealing day given the left's complete and total meltdown.
And breaking news just moments ago, a federal grand jury in Virginia has indicted New York Attorney General Letitia James on a bank fraud charge, where she's accused of falsifying records to obtain favorable loan terms on a mortgage by falsely claiming that her property in Virginia is her primary residence.
Kind of sounds familiar.
It's almost exactly what she was accusing us of.
Remember, guys, no one is above the law.
And we've got a special show for you today.
Later on, we're joined by Sean Davis, CEO of the Federalist, who just gave explosive testimony to the United States Senate about the Biden administration and big tech conspiring to censor conservative media.
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And guys, with that, let's get into some of the headlines of the week.
And we begin with a big one.
We begin with the historic deal in the Middle East.
Israel and Hamas have agreed to the first phase of a ceasefire deal that ends two years of devastating war in Gaza.
All of the hostages are coming home.
And my father personally sharing an international board of peace to oversee Gaza's reconstruction.
Check this out.
Honestly, these are indescribable feelings.
We can't believe it.
Honestly, we hope the war does not come back.
And for this to be really the end, with no death and destruction afterwards.
Remember now we are just talking about phase one of this 20-point peace plan, but President Trump there from the White House saying he still expects Hamas to disarm in phase two.
John.
Let me say that again, guys.
My father, Steve Whitkoff, Secretary Rubio, Vice President J.D. Vance, and the great team around them brokered peace in the Middle East.
Something that has eluded presidents for decades.
Sometimes that was considered the holy grail, okay, the holy grail of geopolitics.
Something the so-called experts, you know, again, you you know my opinion on experts, said was impossible.
Check out JD here on the deal.
This perspective where for months, the fake news media attacked you, attacked the entire team, attacked your approach, you know, the The definition of insanity is to do the same thing again and again, expecting a different result.
The reason we're here is because the president actually charted a different course with a different team.
He vested a lot of uh of authority in Steve Whitkop in particular, and that's why we're here.
Uh, it's because you did something different, and I think it's important to recognize that.
I also think the president, you know, Marco mentioned the president's personal touch being a big part of this.
The one thing I would say is obviously the president of the United States, a New York real estate billionaire, one of the most famous New Yorkers in the world, has a lot of interaction with a lot of people who are very pro-Israel.
I think that was an important set of experiences and life life experiences that he brought to the table.
He also, of course, knew one of the most famous Palestinians in the world, Chuck Schumer.
I think without that background of knowledge, it would have been impossible to get us to this moment.
Thank you.
Thank you.
As part of phase one, all of the hostages will be released.
And Israel would withdraw their troops to agreed-upon lines.
Promises made, promises kept, folks.
Prime Minister Netanyahu called to thank my father, countries around the world, Qatar, Egypt, Turkey, Jordan, UAE, Saudi Arabia, are all phrasing this leadership because that's what it is, finally.
It's actual leadership.
America leading from the front.
Under the 20-point plan, Hamas releases All hostages within 72 hours.
Hamas disarms and gives up control.
An international governing body takes over, and there's a pathway to reconstruction for the Palestinian people.
Biden couldn't do it.
Obama couldn't do it.
Bush couldn't do it.
Trump gets it done, folks.
Obama couldn't even bring himself to thank my father in his statement today.
Because of course.
And remember, guys, uh, remember when Barack Obama got like the participation award uh Nobel Peace Prize?
Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize for basically no reason back in 2009.
Basically continuing andor starting wars all over the place.
It didn't make any sense then.
It doesn't make any sense now, but it doesn't matter.
I think my father cares more about saving lives and results than awards.
And Democrat John Fetterman, even a Democrat, agrees that this historic deal is worthy of the Nobel Prize.
Check him out in his own words.
Well, I mean, if if this sticks, uh I think that the whole point of having a uh Nobel Peace Prize is for ending wars and promoting peace.
And I'm gonna make a direct appeal to the president.
Now, Fetterman may be one of the few sane Democrats left because the rest of them are in an alternate universe of far left lunacy, pretty much pretty much 24 hours a day.
We've seen it.
For example, Democrat California gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter had a complete meltdown on camera, and it's gone massively viral.
Watch and check this one out.
It's pretty good.
And we've also asked the other candidates do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win?
And you're saying no, you don't.
No, I'm saying I'm gonna try to win every vote I can.
And what I'm saying to you is that well, to those voters.
Okay, so so you I don't want to keep doing this, I'm gonna call it.
Thank you.
You're not gonna do the interview with us.
Nope, not like this, I'm not.
Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask.
Every other candidate has answered.
I don't care.
I don't care.
I I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you ask me about every issue on this list.
And if every question you're gonna make up a follow-up question, then we're never gonna get there.
And we're just gonna circle around.
I am an invitation.
You've never had to have a conversation to end an inporto.
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Uh what part of I'm me?
I'm running for governor because I'm a leader.
So I am going to make so you're not going to answer questions from reporters?
Okay, why don't we go through?
I will continue to ask follow-up questions because that's my job as a journalist, but I will go through and ask these.
And if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer.
So nearly every Porter was being interviewed by CBS Sacramento about redistricting.
The reporter asked a reasonable question.
What do you say to the 40% of California voters who voted for Trump?
Porter's response, accusing the reporter of being unnecessarily argumentative.
Okay, remember what they do to conservatives literally every day, all day long, almost without fail.
I mean, this seems basic, and she seemed to be going pretty easy on her.
But again, the Democrats are used to their echo chamber.
They're used to never having to actually answer a question.
They're used to saying if if they give a little bit of something, oh, that's a wonderful answer.
Let's move on.
But then, guys, new footage surfaced from 2021 showing Porter screaming at a staffer.
Get out of my effing shot.
Check this one out.
A million Californians dying prematurely to air pollution and other problems, and the state could lose Get out of my fucking shot.
I want to tell you that that's actually incorrect.
It's not that it's electric vehicles, it's that if we don't need the commitments, I need the paris climate worry.
Okay.
It does okay.
You also were in my shop before that.
Stay out of my shot.
Okay.
I'm gonna start again with um electric vehicle saving us money.
Perfect.
Okay.
Wow.
Feems like a reasonable person.
I'm sure she'll do a great job in California.
Even Democrats are tearing her apart.
One Democratic opponent called her a weak, self destructive candidate, unfit to lead California, and demanded she drop out.
That actually one of the few reasonable things to come out of a Democrat's mouth in a long time.
Guys, this is the left.
Okay.
Entitled, condescending, unable to handle scrutiny, they think they're owed your vote.
And when questioned, they absolutely melt down.
And it's one of the reasons why the stakes are so high.
Because the left can't win with an argument.
They have to censor you.
Or, as we've seen a lot of these days, they have to resort to violence.
This week, John Davis testified before the Senate about how the Biden administration and big tech conspired to try to destroy conservative media.
Watch him in his own words.
secretly and without any due process, charged us with thought crimes, convicted us, and sentenced the Federalists to death.
The censorship efforts our government funded with our money are still being wielded against us today.
I'm here today to testify about the unconstitutional and illegal censorship of my company and my colleagues.
But I'm also here to help you understand the real world consequences in flesh and in blood of the drive to silence your political opposition.
It doesn't stop at the page's end.
The effort to censor and silence political opposition is not the final step in the effort to usher in tyranny and authoritarianism.
It begins with censorship.
It moves to the destruction of statues and monuments, and it ends with the murder of people, and it has to stop.
Look at these stories together.
Dems imploding over basic questions, government censorship exposed, left-wing violence being held accountable for a change.
They're all about truth versus lies.
Strength versus weakness, leadership versus failure.
Peace is breaking out, censorship is being exposed, violent leftists are being held accountable, and the American people see exactly what's happening.
So stay tuned because up next, we've got an incredible interview with Sean Davis himself from the Federalist about his Senate testimony.
How the government tried to destroy his company and how we actually fight back.
Not just complaining, but how we actually fight back.
And in the meantime, here's more from my father's round table with his cabinet earlier today.
And then Sean's going to join us on the other side.
One day, perhaps the entire story will be told about the events of yesterday, but uh suffice it to say it's not an exaggeration that none of it would have been possible without the president of the United States being involved.
Thank you.
It really began with your trip to the Middle East, where these relationships were forged with partners in the region, personal relationships, close relationships that created the uh the foundation where all this was possible, where I think this really took a turn.
Remember, a month ago, no one thought this was possible.
We really took a turn about a month ago, uh less than a couple weeks ago, is when we were at the United Nations, and you convened a historic meeting, not simply of Arab countries, but of Muslim majority countries from around the world, including Indonesia was there, Pakistan was there, and created this coalition behind this plan.
You then on that following Monday, you met with the Prime Minister of Israel here, and that plan was presented.
And then, of course, our great negotiating team followed up on it.
In the intro, um, again, perhaps the stories will be told, perhaps it will never be told.
The president had some extraordinary phone calls and meetings.
Um that required uh a high degree of intensity and commitment and made this happen.
And I think what's important to understand is that yesterday what happened was really a human story.
There's a geopolitical aspect to it, there's no doubt about it.
It creates the conditions for Gaza to one day be a normal place again and people to have a better life and Israelis to be safe.
But yesterday was a human story, and because of the work you put in, and honestly, there is no not only is there no other leader in the world that could have put this together, Mr. President.
But frankly, I don't know of any American president in the modern era that could have made this possible because of the actions you have taken unrelated to this, and because of who you are and what you've done and how you're viewed.
And this weekend, because of that, at some point very soon, we are going to see 20 living human beings emerge from the darkness into the light for the first time in two years.
And that is because not only were you you used the credibility and the power and the prestige of this office and the relationships you created, and you committed yourself to making it happen, and I think it will go down as a historic moment in the history of our country, and something our country should be very proud of.
That we have a president that's committed to the not just peace, but to the human aspect of reuniting these families.
My last point on this is just a couple of days ago, Secretary Lutnik hosted us all, many of us, at the Kennedy Center.
And we have these families, we've interacted with them for so many years, uh, for some for two years now.
And the stories are heartbreaking, both whose families are alive and those who are deceased as well, who want their relatives back so that they can uh complete the process of grieving.
And uh it was uh we had all hoped that perhaps that was the day that we would have an announcement for them on the anniversary of the seventh.
But I I know you were able to speak to some of those families last night.
And and I just hope the whole nation understands what how incredibly proud they should be of their president and of their country for the role that they've played.
And I don't want to let this moment pass, Mr. President, with also noting the incredible work of Steve Woodcoff and Jared Jared Kusher.
They're an incredible team working together, facing some substantial impediments to even being there this weekend and doing it.
So if I just leave it at that.
And they've done a great job on your behalf, Mr. President, and they deserve a tremendous amount of credit.
But thank you for what you've done to me for the world for the world.
Thank you very much, Mark.
I appreciate it.
Well, guys, joining me now, Federalist founder Sean Davis.
Sean, great to have you back, man.
How are you doing?
I'm doing well.
Great to be back.
Thank you for having me.
Well, a lot going on today.
Uh you know, this week already.
Uh it's early on Monday, but man, that was a pretty big one in the Middle East, huh?
Yeah, I did I did not have peace in the Middle East on my bingo card.
I I thought it was a possibility, but uh yeah, I'm I really hope it it we get all the way through it, the deal's consummated, we get the hostages home, and we can actually have peace there.
Yeah, that'd be uh that'd be pretty nice.
I think everyone is probably on board with my father where he just wants to stop the death.
I mean, I know that was very controversial when he said that originally about Ukraine and also talking about this.
I'd like to just stop the death.
Oh, how dare you say that?
Uh but these people are insane, and you you did a little talking about that this week too.
Yeah, it's it's it's kind of crazy to me.
You would think that everyone would want to see peace.
Peace is a good thing.
Like it's it's a cliche that we all want world peace, but I I think we actually do.
It was interesting in your in in President Trump's first term and then now to actually see how many people don't seem to want peace, to see how many people seem to thrive on conflict.
It's actually kind of depressing, really.
Um, but thank goodness that he is where he is.
He he has done more for peace in this world than I think any president in probably a hundred years, if not more.
Yeah, I saw a funny name it too.
Hitler, uh Hitler created peace for the Jews.
It was sort of interesting.
I was like, that's kind of funny.
Uh, given all the crap that they've put out there for a long time.
Oh, it was there's a lot of irony.
Yeah, I think that was the Babylon B headline.
Uh you know, they they've got an easy job now.
The left is so insane, and the Democrat media is so ridiculous.
It's uh it's hard not to think of parodies and satire of these people.
And and it it's fascinating to watch them say, Look, you know, Trump's Hitler, Trump can't do this, Trump can't do that.
This is what, like his eighth peace deal in the last month or two.
He's like the he's like the worst Hitler ever.
Like you know, he's he hasn't failed at much in life, but he's clearly failed at being Hitler.
We had there's wars he stopped that I think people didn't even know were happening, going on, and he's he's finding conflicts out there to end that most people in the media didn't even know were happening.
Like his commitment to peace and his hatred of death and destruction and war.
I I like him for a lot of reasons.
Uh I think that is actually the most laudable thing about him.
He's been consistent about it for decades.
The guy hates war and death and destruction, and God bless him for doing everything he can, working tirelessly to bring us peace.
I I agree 100%.
I obviously we have a lot to get into, but maybe maybe I want to start with the breaking news on Letitia James and her indictment.
Uh Remember, uh, I know we've heard this a lot.
No one is above the law, Sean.
Uh, do I have that right?
I just want to make sure I'm I'm not sure, but I remember her saying that quite often very distinctly, uh, tweeting about it, etc., etc.
I might have spent a good hour going through her Twitter feed and just finding all the instances of her saying no one is above the law and then tweeting her indictment at her and asking, is this you?
Is this you, Tish?
Are are you above the law now?
Uh it couldn't happen to a nastier, more corrupt person than Letitia James.
Like she went after President Trump and accused him of lying on mortgage documents because he didn't say that Mar-a-Lago was worth like 10 million bucks.
I I imagine carpet samples for a closet in Mar-a-Lago at this point are worth like 10 million dollars.
But she tried to throw him in prison by by saying, uh, yeah, it's actually probably worth closer to a billion dollars.
And now we find out that she was lying on her mortgage applications.
It's fascinating.
Uh, the irony is not lost on me.
I remember having to testify about that one and explaining to people, you know, I guess the number was 18 million dollars, they thought it was worth.
I'm like, uh Mar-Lago's on 20 acres, Mar-A Lago from the ocean to the lake, because you know, Paw Beach is an island and it's got waterfront on both sides.
You know, half acre teardown, sell it for 50 million bucks, and this 20-acre thing with you know, uh, a rather incredible house on it, is somehow worth 18.
I I remember when that happened, I called my father, like I called him.
I was like, hey man, I'll take 10.
He goes, What do you mean?
It's like, I want 10 Mar-a-Lagos at 18 million dollars, I'll come up with the money somehow.
I you'll have it tomorrow.
I want 10.
Uh because it's it's just it's absolutely absurd, but it doesn't stop them.
No, it doesn't.
And it, you know, for people who own a home and have to pay property taxes, there's always uh a dance between what your property is worth and the tax valuation on it.
And you know, I've lived in a lot of places.
I don't ever think I've seen a tax valuation and the actual like property value match.
Your goal is always to get the tax valuation as low as humanly possible, get the basis as low as possible, uh and so you can pay as little tax as possible on it.
So this idea from an attorney general in a state that if your uh market evaluation of a home doesn't match the tax valuation, that is so insane.
I thought it was crazy at the time.
I still have trouble wrapping my head around this idea that that Donald Trump committed mortgage fraud on a loan that he paid back every penny of that everyone was happy with because there is a different market value than tax assessment.
It is so stupid and so corrupt.
I still can't believe it actually happened.
Well, in a lot of states, the assessed value actually has nothing to do with you know the market value.
I mean, they the state comes up with it, they give you a number, you pay a percentage off of that.
And it the two actually don't oftentimes have anything to do with a reasonable number.
It's almost just that's the way they do it and for whatever reason.
But yeah, this one was uh especially absurd.
Yeah, man, if I if I could have gotten my hands on Mar-a-Lago for 18 million dollars, like uh I'm not a wealthy man and I don't know that many wealthy people.
I I would have uh stayed up night and day as long as it took to buy that beautiful piece of property uh for pennies on the dollar.
You're you're a crafty guy.
You would have found a way, I can assure you.
Yeah, but no, poor Tish.
Yeah, you know, you you messed around and now you're gonna find out, sweetheart.
Yeah, so early earlier this week, speaking of that, I mean, you told the Senate uh that the Biden regime tried to censor the Federalist to death.
Uh obviously a topic that you've we've spoken on the show many times before.
You know, can you walk us through uh the most shocking part of that discovery?
I know it's been sort of ongoing for a long period of time.
We knew it was happening.
We probably didn't realize how bad it was.
Can you take us through all of it?
Yeah, uh, and and I'll try to be brief on it, not bore you too much.
So for about five years, there is a concerted global effort, a coordinated effort to shut down the Federalist.
I was targeted, the Federalist was targeted, our writers and reporters were targeted.
My colleague Molly Hemingway was targeted.
Um there were a whole bunch of different entities throughout the government and throughout the world.
Um there was one government connected entity in the UK called the Center for Countering Digital Hate, probably the most Orwellian name I've ever heard of, that tried to get us demonetized from Google because we published an article entitled The Media Are Lying to You About Literally Everything, including the Riots.
And this was in 2020.
Then our own government via uh some agency called CISA, the Cybersecurity Infrastructure and Security Agency, they went to Twitter and told them they had to censor Molly and me.
And some of the tweets they they had uh censored were actually kind of hilarious.
Now, if you follow me, I can get a little spicy on Twitter.
I can get a little hot.
Yes, you do.
So I gave them all kinds of fodder to use.
But but what they went after me uh for was a tweet screenshotting and linking to a Pennsylvania Supreme Court decision that said they had to accept ballots with no postmark uh received after election day and presume them as uh valid.
So they censored me for that for correctly reading, interpreting, linking and screenshotting a uh a state Supreme Court law.
They went after Molly Hemingway, my colleague and number one national best selling author, um, because she tweeted an article that had the headline, Americans won't trust elections until voter fraud is investigated.
That got her censored.
And then my favorite one that they targeted me for, and this was, I believe, in the fall of 2020, in the heat of that election.
I said the surest sign that they're trying to rig the election is that they're censoring people on social media for saying they're trying to rig the election.
And then they censored me for that one.
And then the what's crazy about it is the whole time they were doing it secretly.
We knew we were being censored, but we didn't know by whom.
We didn't know how targeted it was.
And then the worst part of it was our own State Department, which is banned from targeting domestic speech, spent years trying to bankrupt us, blacklist us, demonetize us, and shut us down using the awesome powers of the federal government.
They they were developing these crazy tools and technologies, which still live on, by the way, to shut people like us down.
And, you know, we we survived, but barely.
Um, but it's criminal what we had to go through just to survive as American citizens trying to report the news.
So, Sean, you know, after going through all that, what's the one single thing you think that Congress needs to do right now to make sure some future administration can't pull the censorship stunt again?
I mean, you know, these are, you know, catching them is great, but we actually need some action there so this can never happen again.
Yeah, that's a great question.
Um, so I think they need to create uh very simple private causes of action to sue the federal government for First Amendment infringements.
That's number one.
Number two, we ought to be entitled to significant uh compensatory damages.
Um we were probably cost millions, if not tens of millions of dollars over many, many years in advertising revenue and in audience growth.
Um, and they're also, I believe, need to be serious punitive damages awarded to people who have their rights infringed uh by the federal government.
I I think that would end this overnight.
And if you want to add a third thing, uh the people within government, the individuals do it should be personally liable for any illegal censorship that they do.
I think those things immediately would end this nonsense overnight.
Is anyone out there in Congress actually trying to do this?
Has anyone put up some sort of legislation, you know, going through any one or all of those things?
Yeah, I don't know if there's anything up right now.
I know there are significant discussions.
That was one of the reasons the Senate Commerce Committee held that hearing that that I testified at and that Alex Baronson, who was also censored and targeted, testified at.
So I believe a number of the Republicans on that committee, uh, Chairman uh Ted Cruz, Senator Eric Schmidt uh from Missouri, who's been a total rock star on free speech.
Um, I believe they're working on something along those lines.
And and I I hope we see something like that, not just offered, but actually passed and enacted soon.
Yeah, that's a that's a big deal.
I know Eric was, you know, Missouri Attorney General before he became a senator from the state of Missouri, and he was one of the guys along with governor or at the time then, you know, governor uh attorney general Jeff Landry of Louisiana that took on uh you know the federal government as it related to some of the meta-censorship.
So he's one of the guys that actually uh has been leading the charge all along.
So I love that he's involved, and hopefully they can come up with something that they get passed quickly.
Yeah, they they've been rock stars.
They put together a great hearing, and and it was it was an honor and a privilege to be able to go there and and finally kind of tell the world what we've been going through.
Uh, You know, we've been suing in federal court now against the State Department for for two years.
Uh Marco Rubio, the wonderful Secretary of State admitted in the pages of our uh magazine, our our online publication, that the State Department did what we alleged it did, that it targeted us for censorship uh to destroy us.
Um, but it's been two years.
We are still awaiting relief.
And it's one of those things that I find particularly enraging.
I'm an American citizen.
Yeah, I have family who came over on the Mayflower.
Uh, we literally settled and founded this country.
I have been waiting longer for vindication in federal court than a legal alien human trafficking drug dealers have.
Apparently, if you just come across the border and commit crimes, you can get your day in federal district court in like five seconds.
And every uh left-wing judge on earth will be fighting to set you free.
But if you're an actual American who's been screwed by your own government, nah, you gotta sit and wait for years.
It's appalling.
Yeah, I guess I mean, on a on a personal level, what's it like running a company, knowing that there was a secret high-level effort by the previous administration to literally wipe you off the internet.
Uh, what fuels your fight right now?
Yeah, it's it's uh it's a good question about the personal toll of censorship.
It's enraging.
And I think the more you know you are innocent, the more enraging it is, and I'm sure you and your family understand this better than anyone.
It's not just the censorship that that's awful though it is.
It's this constant uh cacophony of lies of targeting.
You've heard the phrase the process is the punishment.
I shouldn't have to spend years in federal court to vindicate my rights uh to speak my mind in published news as an American citizen.
But they do it on purpose.
They want to grind you down.
They want to demoralize and dishearten you.
They want to make you so tired that you give up.
Uh, I've got bad news for them.
We're not going anywhere.
We're not giving up.
And if anything, it's just uh increase the fire that we have to do what we're doing.
Because if they want to shut us up, it must mean we're doing something good.
I think that's right.
So I mean, Sean, looking at what's happening right now in Virginia, you've got this AG, the attorney general candidate, lunatic, uh, with violent texts about killing Republicans uh and their children.
Uh, it's yet another example of how deep the rot really is.
I mean, this guy wants to be the state's top law enforcement officer in the state of Virginia.
Uh how is that even possible that this guy's still there?
And more importantly, how is it possible that none that I could find, but no other Democrats have called for him to drop out?
I mean, isn't it just a tacit acceptance that this is the way it is and they're they're tacitly complicit uh in all of this?
Yeah, it's horrifying.
It his comments were bad enough.
I mean, he said he wanted to put two bullets in his political opponent.
I think it's important to talk about the the thing that made him so mad about his political opponent.
What made him so mad was that a moderate Republican said nice things at a funeral for a moderate Democrat.
That enraged Jay Jones to the point that he wanted to put two bullets in his head.
And if that weren't bad enough, he followed that up by saying, Oh, and also, by the way, he should have to watch his own children die in the arms of their mother to teach him a lesson about how wrong his political opinions are.
So all of that coming from a guy who wants to be a law enforcement officer, that's insane.
But then the fact that you don't have any elected Democrats in the state, or maybe even the country, I don't think I've seen one uh call for him to drop out.
And in the wake of our friend Charlie Kirk being assassinated while while peacefully debating someone, I think we had all hoped that everyone in the country might take a step back and say, whoa, this this is insane.
We've got to stop this.
We've got to stop the violence.
Um instead, the silence about Jay Jones just tells me that half the country was probably fine with Charlie being killed.
That half the country is fine with Jay Jones wishing death upon his opponents, and that half the country is probably fine with you or me or anyone else with the microphone being murdered because of our views.
That is horrifying.
And it's a terrible uh uh statement on the state of the Democrat Party that they can't bring themselves to call on someone who says those things to drop out.
Yeah, no, I mean, watching, you know, it it wasn't just a couple of lunatics on Twitter.
I mean, mainstream media people almost gloating and celebrating.
Uh, you know, when someone tells you who they are, that they believe them.
I mean, it's it it seems pretty clear.
Yeah, that's yeah, when they tell you who they are, believe them.
They they have showcased exactly who they are and what they believe.
There's a funny meme on Twitter that that kind of captured the differences between two parties that you'll have someone on the right say, Rao, I really hate that guy.
But if it came down to it, I would like jump in and save that guy from a flood or a fire.
But on the left, you'll have a leftist say, um, oh yeah, you need to be kind, and they would gladly set fire to your house while you and your family slept in it.
I mean, it's that I I know we hear that, you know, both sides have their icky people and blah, blah, blah.
They're not going to be able to bullshit.
There is no both sides.
There is no bicep.
No.
Like they I know they push that because it's convenient for their narrative, but no, no.
The violence only goes one way.
Yeah, and it's it's not just random violence, it's coordinated violence.
We have ICE uh trying to run sieges against federal property.
We had a left winger that we learned this week set the fire uh that that tore down and burned the palisades in California.
The coordinated terroristic violence in this country comes exclusively from the left wing.
Yeah, I mean, Democrats really, Sean, seem to support violence, um, except when it's blowing up drug boats and drug smugglers smuggling in fentanyl that kills you know 100,000 Americans a year.
I mean, they're against that now too.
Uh, does the left have an identity other than just perpetual hate, rage, or maybe just TDS?
Yeah, that's uh that's a good question.
It seems like their identity is entirely fictional, that they see themselves either as civil rights marchers and Selma trying to stop segregation.
They see themselves as the uh brave American soldiers storming Normandy and taking down the Nazis.
They craft these fictions in their head and they decide, oh, I'm just like those people who stormed the beaches at Normandy, and my opponents are just like those Nazis, and therefore I'm allowed to go kill and punch and violently stop anyone I don't like because they're all functionally equivalent to Nazis.
That's that's why they call us fascists.
It's why they call themselves anti-fascists.
They're playing out this bizarre little play, this fantasy in their heads where they're reliving battles against actual evil fought by far braver men than they were.
And in just a quick historical note, um, I find the whole anti-fascist thing hilarious, that phrasing.
If you look at history and you go and see what was going on in Europe, the only people who called themselves anti-fascists were communists.
That was the word for the communists who really were just mad at Hitler because they didn't like the totalitarian type of government that he was running.
They wanted their own totalitarian government.
Most of the people who were fighting the Nazis, and by the way, uh uh uh fighting to protect their countries were just people who didn't want, you know, these Germans running England.
They didn't want the Germans running Poland.
They weren't anti-fascist.
The only anti-fascists were communists.
So anymore in modern America in 2025, an anti-fascist is just an ugly gay communist with a thesaurus.
Yeah, well, beyond that, I mean, that's sort of a great historical uh, you know, connotation.
But if you actually look at what you know, the brown coats did, uh, if you look at what the fascists uh actually did in the streets, uh, it's pretty much exactly the same as what we see the anti-fascists here doing.
I mean, the anti-fascists here are basically textbook fascists based on all of their actions every day, each and every day, uh, whether it's the media manipulation, whether it's the oppressing other people's views, shutting down people, beating them in the streets if you disagree with them.
I mean, isn't that exactly what the fascists did?
And that's exactly what anti-fa is doing on a daily basis.
I'm not sure who they're actually propping up.
It seems to be simply just trying to beat the hell out of anyone they disagree with.
Yeah, and if you look at the the historic kind of definition of fascism, it it's this total melding of corporate corporate and uh government power, where you basically have uh private sector entities with with generally monopolies operating as agents of government.
That's exactly what we saw from the Biden administration for four years.
They thought big tech existed to police people's speech.
That was actual fascism.
And yet, when that was all being done, the so-called anti fascists were nowhere to be found.
And if we did find them, it was it was them cheering on the nonsense.
So yeah, they're a bunch of freaking looney tunes, ahistorical idiots uh living in fantasy land.
So Sean, you're usually pretty good at sort of getting ahead of the game, seeing the stuff before we sort of, you know, before it gets a little bit more uh, you know, I I'd use the word mainstream, but you know, I don't think we're mainstream, but we're just common sense.
Well, you know, what are the other big stories that are out there that you're keeping your eye on over at the Federalists as we head towards the end of the year?
Well, I think there are two big things going on.
Number one, we have the election coming up um next November.
So we're about 13 months out now.
And I think what Democrats are really trying to do is delay and obstruct and block as much as they possibly can over the next 13 months in the hopes that they will take over at least one, but maybe both houses of Congress, at which point they can then impeach Trump, uh, tie him up with ridiculous investigations forever, and then hopefully ride out the rest of his term with with no more uh sort of progress from him.
And a key part of that, I think is number two that we're looking at, which is the continued judicial insurrection against the Trump administration.
We are seeing lawless left-wing Democrat judges around the country turn their own courtrooms into de facto oval offices.
We see them declaring unilaterally by fiat with no authority, that the president has to get their approval before he can take military action in international waters against uh international traffickers.
That they have to get, they have to give Trump permission before he can fly a military plane somewhere with detainees.
So this combination of this obstruction, uh looking towards 20 uh uh 26 and this judicial insurrection, I think those are the major stories going on right now.
Democrats are just trying to run out the clock, not till 2028.
They're just trying to run out the clock until next November.
Well, what do you make right now of you know the stuff going on with the government shutdown?
Uh, you know, it's interesting.
I I was on a text chain with with some friends today, none of whom are in politics, and they all said they would have uh no idea the shutdown was even going on, if not for the city.
Yeah, I haven't noticed anything.
Sort of odd, right?
It's like I hope they're getting rid of a lot of these unessential people, but uh, you know, it it does seem rather mild compared to what we're promised, you know, basically, you know, Armageddon, uh, you know, i if if this continues.
Yeah, it actually feels to me, you know, I've been in politics for quite a while.
It feels to me like one of the more pointless shutdowns we've ever had.
Like Democrats somehow got together in Congress and were like, well, we can't let them keep the government open.
So I guess we're gonna just shut it down.
And then you got Chuck Schumer who's terrified of AOC in a primary going along with it in the Senate.
I don't even know what their goal is.
They're like crying about Obamacare or something, but it just feels really dumb and pointless.
And I'm kind of just waiting for it to be over.
They're crying about wanting to give health coverage and health insurance to illegals.
They say they're not, but if you like literally the text is actually about as plain as it gets in terms of legal ease, it's exactly what they're trying to do.
Americans are suffering.
They they don't offer Americans anything anymore.
So they've got to import a voter base.
They import a voter base by paying them essentially, paying them off.
Um and it's right there in plain English.
Uh even some of the honestly, even some of the left-wing media trying to be like, you know, they're they're they're letting them off fairly easy, but they're like, yeah, but it it but it kind of says that.
I mean, oh, we we're not trying to do that.
No, no, no, it's billions of dollars.
Like you're you're doing it.
It's it's pretty clear that it's there.
I mean, seems like the wrong kind of thing to try to shut the down the government for.
Yeah, and you know, man, they really do love illegals.
It's kind of crazy how much the Democrats love illegals and how much more they love them than actual American citizens.
But it's interesting comparing this shutdown to previous ones.
Uh, the Trump admin seems to be doing everything they can to keep essential stuff running.
You know, I've I've flown in airports a ton over the last couple weeks.
Um, airports, you know, they're they're kind of understaffed, but they're still moving along.
I remember Obama going and shutting down completely unmanned national parks, going and shutting down national monuments, like the the World War II memorial for no reason other than to deliberately increase the pain uh of the shutdown.
And to me, it's just a really interesting contrast in governance.
The Trump admin Is trying to do everything they can.
They're finding stuff they can cut to make ends meet to make sure stuff still functions.
The Democrats never even cared about that.
They apparently only care about free health care for illegal aliens.
I mean, do you think Russ Voigt is, you know, doing a or you think he's cutting a lot of that fat that needs to be cut?
I mean, because that's the one thing I think the shutdown does is it gives the president essentially the power to get rid of some of these non-essential people.
Um do you think they're able to do enough of that?
Oh, I I think he's doing a fantastic job.
Uh now, I'm when it comes to wanting to cut stuff out, I'm I'm pretty aggressive, so I'm not sure I will ever be pleased.
You're a chainsaw, not a scalpel.
Exactly.
Yeah, you need a fresh new chain.
So, but I think Russ is doing a great job.
And I don't think, again, Democrats really thought this through because once you're in a shutdown, Russ Vogue is no longer governed by all those appropriations bills that tell him he has to do X, Y, and Z. At this point, he's he's governed by just doing what he can to keep the government open.
So almost like bravo to the Democrats for doing this for finally letting Russ vote off the leash.
I I don't think they thought it through, but man, I think he's doing a fantastic job.
So what do you what do you think happens now, uh, Sean, with Russia and Ukraine?
I mean, obviously the two big wars that were going out there were obviously Israel, Palestine, uh, Israel and Gaza, uh, but the other big one being Ukraine Russia right now.
Uh, do you think with some of the guys that are involved in that team that were able to do that, they have now the perhaps the bandwidth to focus on something else, or is there still gonna be a lot of cleanup uh done in the Middle East before they can really get to that next level?
I I really hope we are close to to peace between Russia and Ukraine.
The the amount of death and destruction there, I think we're probably into the millions of people.
Um Russia uh historically has never had a problem throwing bodies uh at wars.
Uh you look at World War II, I think the Soviet Union lost something like 20 million men uh uh fighting against uh Germany.
So you're not gonna win a war of attrition against Russia because they they just don't care about their people enough.
Um and then you have Zelensky in Ukraine.
Um, I don't think this guy has any real incentive to stop the war because um he's suspended elections under their constitution, allegedly.
And as long as that war is going, he gets to stay in power.
So so I think there are sadly a lot of incentives there that are against peace.
Um, but if anyone can get peace, I think it's Donald Trump.
I was very, very pleased to see him and Putin meet in person.
I think if you actually want peace and you want negotiated settlements, that requires meeting in person.
And for years, especially during the Bush administration, we were fed this nonsense that it was somehow below the US to meet with other world leaders that and it turns out that was a smokescreen to continue conflict.
So the more Trump meets with Putin, the more Trump meets with Zelensky, the more he can get them in the same room, all three of them together, I think the better, because talking is always better than warring.
And so I'm really, really hopeful that maybe with peace in the Middle East uh now being accomplished, at least in the short term, um, that we can focus on ending that war because it's accomplishing nothing but death and destruction.
What are some of the other false narratives that are out there?
I keep seeing uh, you know, the left sort of pushing, you know, inflation is through the roof.
I'm like, well, inflation's like half of what it was under Biden.
Like you can't just have four years of utter disaster and like reverse the policies overnight.
It doesn't work that way, especially when you compound that with some of the stuff that you've been talking about, you know, the judicial lawfare, uh, you know, judges acting as though they were the president, and you have to, you know, just stall tactics to delay everything.
Um, you know, what what do you actually see uh in the economy right now?
Because I think that's obviously going to be fairly critical for midterms.
Yeah, so the the issue with the economy is I think a lot of the data we were fed over the last several years was just plain garbage.
Um you look at a lot of the jobs numbers, and they're constantly having to be revised down and down again and down again.
And if you talk to anyone who does surveys or understands survey science, your errors in those surveys over time should be um random.
They should be evenly distributed.
Your errors should look like a bell curve.
So you have some that are high, some that are low over time they even out.
When you have surveys that are constantly having to be revised down, something is wrong with your data.
And it's apparently not just the economic data or the jobs data.
Uh the Binadmen cooked the books on the census.
They completely uh made up numbers, used garbage uh uh data science in order to uh cook the books and give Democrats, I think, you know, five, 10, maybe even 20 extra seats uh that they didn't deserve by monkeying around with the census data.
So I I think right now the story in the economy is it's absolutely doing better.
We've got inflation under control.
I think people understand that that Trump knows how to get the economy moving.
But we have to get some real data, and we have to know truly uh what the data is and what the actual situation looks like.
And until you get the Biden people cleaned out of those institutions and you actually get people in there who can clean up the data, I think we're still gonna have a murky picture on the economy.
Yeah, no, it's uh you're you're you're right.
I mean, the the numbers were revised.
Uh they've always been revised down for uh Biden, and then they give bad numbers for Trump because that makes the headline, and then they get revised up.
Uh and it it seems like people still fall for it though.
Each and every time.
I mean, how do you get that to stop?
How do you actually create uh unbiased systems there?
You could say the same about the Fed.
You know, they dropped into the straight as way.
Inflation was through the roof during the last few weeks of the Biden administration and try to artificially prop up the economy and get some money in there and make it seem like people are doing better.
Uh, and yet we've had one rate cut in, you know, in a year uh, you know, since then uh when the things that would merit higher interest rates, uh, inflation, etc.
are actually under control.
Yeah, well, apparently Jerome Powell was just spending all his time creating a massive cost overruns in the creation of his like private little Fed palace over there.
Like what they spend three billion dollars.
So I guess he was spending.
I mean, it was like I I've built the largest residential building in America at the time.
You know, it it was like a 900 million dollar building.
They spent three billion to build a garage under the and like it doesn't it doesn't make any sense.
You'd be better off just ripping it down and starting from scratch, and you could probably build it for half the price.
But uh it was funny watching him sort of in his construction uniform, clearly has no idea about anything in construction.
Uh the photo up and the juxtaposition of my father asking like intelligent question of the construction workers, like someone who's actually been on a job site and knows what he's talking about.
Uh a little bit different.
Yeah, and apparently Jerome Powell's as good at managing a building project as he is at managing the Fed.
I mean, that that guy is an absolute disaster.
You know, when he was cutting rates for Biden saying oh, because it inflation, whatever, I gotta do this, then Trump gets in.
The inflation picture is even better.
Like, no, no, I can't be cutting rates at all.
Can't possibly be cutting rates.
The guy's a total failure.
Uh, don't even get me started on fiat Fed money anyway.
I I think it's a huge problem.
But if we're gonna have central banking, if we're gonna have currency based on uh uh central bank management, it ought to actually be sane competent management.
And we've not been getting that from Jabrome Powell at all.
Yeah, not even a little bit.
Well, Sean, thank you very much as always.
Uh appreciate you being here.
Uh great testimony this week.
If you guys haven't seen it, go check it out.
It's worth it's definitely worth it.
Uh, we really appreciate it and look forward to having you back on soon.
Well, thank you so much, sir.
You're always so generous.
I really appreciate it.
Talk to you in a little bit, buddy.
Do well.
Take care.
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