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Dec. 16, 2024 - Triggered - Donald Trump Jr
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How Sean Parnell Helped Deliver PA, Plus Why Pete Hegseth Must Be Confirmed | TRIGGERED Ep.199
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Tonight we're joined by great friend of the show, great American Sean Parnell.
Sean is a former U.S. Army Airborne Ranger and is the host of the Battleground podcast.
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Again, that's TNUSA.com slash Don Jr. Joining me now, host of the Battleground podcast here on Rumble, Army Ranger, hero, author, awesome dude, good friend of the show.
I think he was on like the second episode of the show when I didn't even know what the hell I was doing with you.
We have people being like, okay, rate it in.
You guys are going a little bit off the rails.
Awesome guy.
And new leader of Pennsylvania Rising, Sean Parnell.
Good to be with you, buddy.
How you doing?
I'm good, my friend.
I'm doing great after an historic Trump victory and Republican statewide victory up and down the ballot all across Pennsylvania, man.
I'm doing great.
Well, listen, you are obviously a big part of that.
A lot of people, you know, Pennsylvania isn't just the Keystone State in name.
It was actually, you know, always kind of clear to us that it was a Keystone State in this election.
You are one of the biggest guys, you know, out there doing just that.
So talk about that a little bit.
How do you make that happen?
What's different?
How do we make Pennsylvania, Florida?
You know, a place that kind of goes, it went either way.
And, you know, we won it back in 16. And ever since then, it's just been, you know, now it's, let's call it a solid red.
How do we make that happen in Pennsylvania?
Yeah, so this is a long answer.
So let me give you some context here, my friend.
Do you know how I got into all of this, into politics and all this crazy stuff?
Yeah.
It was your dad.
Yeah, I remember the story.
Tell everyone else, because you and I are buddies.
We gotta fill in the blanks for everyone else watching.
Yeah, so before I ran for office, I would go on Fox all the time.
I had all these books.
I had a veterans charity that gave service dogs to veterans.
And I was down in South Carolina doing an event, just awarded a veteran a service dog.
I walk off the stage.
And my phone is like blowing up.
All these reporters and political consultants and everything else is calling me, ringing off the hook.
But the call that was, like, scaring me the most, Don, was, like, my mom, who is this fierce, strong Italian woman.
And I'm like, holy smokes, I'm wondering, like, is there a death in the family or did something terrible happen?
And so I pick up the phone and I'm like, you know, sneak off the stage.
And I'm like, Ma, what's going on?
And she starts, like, yelling, like, Sean, are you running for Congress?
And I'm like, Ma, no, I am not running for Congress.
And my mom is like...
The biggest OG America first Trump fan in the history of the world.
And she said, well, President Trump says you're running for Congress.
And immediately I thought my mom was drunk or something.
It was like 11 a.m.
Mom, have you been day drinking again?
So I was like, are you kidding me?
And so she sends me this video.
And it's your dad who had come to Western Pennsylvania at the Marcella Shale Coalition that I hear Sean Parnell might run for Congress.
He should do it.
He's a great military guy.
So that is why I got involved in politics because I've loved, you know, from the moment your dad came down that escalator, you know, I was all in, you know, fought in these wars that, you know, Democrats and Republicans had sent us into for 20 years.
I was definitely ready for a change.
So I got in.
And I'm just telling you all of that to make the point that I was a complete outsider to this game in 2020. And I had a front row seat to them stealing that race.
And I have been my friend.
And I met you at Fox also and, you know, sort of was very involved and sort of I gave you sort of this similar pre-endorsement endorsement.
Like, this guy would be great.
He should really do it.
I don't know if he has any interest whatsoever, but like, go.
Congratulations.
It was totally ridiculous, man.
Like how that all happened.
Totally a fate thing.
But, you know, again, I've been a competitor.
I played sports my whole life.
Obviously was in combat with the light infantry, fought against the Taliban, Al Qaeda, Haqqani.
So I'm a competitor.
It's what I do.
I don't like losing really, really sucks.
I don't like to do it.
It doesn't happen that often.
But losing when you get cheated really sucks.
And they 100% cheated in Pennsylvania.
I saw it.
I witnessed it.
I'll never be gaslighted into believing anything.
Otherwise, I saw it with my own two eyes.
They cheated me and they cheated your dad.
To be clear, that was sort of my father's mentality also.
I think, honestly, he could have taken a loss that was real in 2020 and gone home and be like, hey man, that was an amazing run.
It's fine.
It's over.
But it was the fact that it was so flagrant that he cheated.
And now when you look at the numbers even out of 24, it's like...
You know, how'd they get 85 million votes when it's just so consistent?
And then just this one little anomaly right there that time, it's like, no one believes it.
So I was like, if they would have just won honestly and not made this whole thing, like, he could have just gone, you know, off into the sunset, but he felt the same way.
It's like, when you're cheated, it's like, I won, but I didn't because of X, Y, Z. It's like, no, no, no, no, no.
Now you're creating a monster.
You raised so many great points there because you are 100% right.
I mean, your dad did win in 2020, but he would have had, you know, Dem Majority Senate, Dem Majority House.
Like, your dad got extraordinary things accomplished in his first four years despite withering resistance.
So I'm not saying that he wouldn't have been able to accomplish things in the last four years, but it would have been difficult, right?
Absolutely.
By the way, this is so much better because the same guys that we didn't know in 16, how would you know, right?
You came in as a total outsider.
The first night he ever spent in Washington was the night he swore the oath of office.
So it was like he didn't know, so he trusted others.
That isn't always a great plan, especially in politics.
So, you know, if you just rolled over the 2020 crew into the next four years and we'd be getting out in 43 days, you know, 40 days, whatever it is now, you would have actually accomplished so much less than now.
You had a four year break.
You figured out who was great back then.
You figured out who sucked.
That was part of it.
You figured out who was there on January 7th.
You know, not, you know, day one isn't 2015.
Day one is January 7th.
What were you doing and saying then, you know, as it relates to all of this and like now you can start over with that knowledge.
And I think that's such a bigger threat to the swamp and not just the knowledge of what it means to govern.
You're right, because your dad gets...
I experienced this at a much, much, much smaller level, and I never actually was in Congress, so there's that component of it as well.
But, you know, your dad comes up as a businessman, you know, reshaped the New York City skyline, worked with everybody, Democrats and Republicans, and got extraordinary things done.
So it stands to reason that you win, you bury the hatchet with your political foes, you get in office and you say, OK, I'm going to work with everybody just to make America great again.
But the problem is, and I realized this myself in the wake of 2020, that these radical commie Democrats, there's a reason why there's a phrase, if you want a friend in politics, get a dog, because even people on your own side of the aisle will tuck tail and run at the first sign of adversity.
Well, so this, Don, this is why, you know, You know, it was that it was that ridiculous cheating in 2020 that got me brainstorming about the political battlefield in Pennsylvania and was the real catalyst for why I wanted to fight the fight like the Democrats did and actually just do it better than them.
Broken down in 67 counties across Pennsylvania.
So, you know, after my Senate run in 2022, I'd come up with this plan in 2022.
My Senate race didn't get to the finish line in that race, but I still had this plan.
And after the primary in 2022 between Dave McCormick and Dr. Oz, I went to Dave.
He hadn't decided whether or not he was going to run for a second time again, but I said, listen...
You've run before.
You're from Pennsylvania.
I don't know if you've decided what your political future is going to look like yet, but this plan right here is outcome determinative for not just you, potentially you, but for Republicans statewide.
If we don't implement some form of this plan, no one will ever win here again.
And the plan was really twofold, Don, and this is like just 30,000 feet, but it was, we've got to focus on voter registration because your dad won an historic victory in Pennsylvania in 16 by like over 40,000 votes against Hillary Clinton.
But the Dems had like an 800,000 person voter registration advantage back then.
Your dad overcame that.
But even in 20, they still had 650,000.
So my goal was we've got to cut that in half.
We've got to cut the voter registration advantage that the Dems have in half.
And so now we're somewhere in the ballpark of 300,000.
I mean, there are still 300,000 more registered Democrats than Republicans.
We're going to stay on that.
But also...
Early vote and a vote-by-mail banking operation, man.
Like, we wanted to go all in on that, and we did.
We banked votes at a higher pace than Democrats this cycle, and it paid off huge for us in the end.
Yeah, listen, I've been saying this for years.
Like, we have to be playing the same game.
If everyone chooses to play t-ball, I'm fine with that.
God knows, you know, I know as well as anyone, like, what hardball, you know, means, especially for the Democrats.
But, like, we can't Play t-ball if they're playing hardball.
That doesn't work.
That's not a recipe for success.
Just so we're clear, like, you know, I was there with you on the ground in Pennsylvania doing both of the runs.
You know, just explain to people, like, some of the, just the most obscene aspects of what, you know, people are like, oh, how do you know you got cheated?
It's like, they're letting people vote from, like, the adjoining district in yours, and they're like, sorry, the ballots went out.
Like, I'm like, but they're not in the district.
Like, there's no...
How do you allow someone from outside of a congressional district to vote in the district?
Like, it's too late.
We set the ballots.
Like, there's nothing we can do.
I mean, it was that bad, right?
Because people were like, oh, cheating, cheating.
How do you know?
How do you know you just didn't underperform?
I'm like, no, dude.
This is like, it was maybe the most flagrant and obvious case where not only were they just caught red-handed, but they're like, okay, so what?
Well, yeah, exactly.
I mean, so every time I see your dad, every time he's like, you should be in Congress, they cheated those 30,000 ballots.
That's like the first thing he said to me every time he sees me.
And if you think about how extraordinary that is, like he was the president of the United States back then.
Like he was the leader of the free world in 2020. And when those ballots went out...
Because they went out about a month and a half before Election Day in Allegheny County, in PA-17, in Western Pennsylvania was where I ran.
He knew that these 30-plus thousand mail-in ballots were sent to the wrong addresses.
And he said...
In a tweet, look it up.
You can find it.
You know, the Democrat governor, Tom Wolf, is putting Sean Parnell at great risk.
These ballots, he was all over that and he called it out and he was right.
And so what they did was, Don, is that this mail-in ballot company, it was the first time we had mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania, widespread mail-in ballots.
They sent out 30 plus thousand to the wrong addresses.
And we had to sue the Democrats.
My campaign had to sue the Democrats in court to get them to stop counting them.
Don, their position back then, no BS, was count every vote.
Even in court, their position was count every vote.
Even votes that couldn't be tied to a voter, even votes that had no chain of custody, even votes that were verified to be outside the congressional district, count every vote.
So in that one singular example alone, it's a proof point to, if the Democrats are willing to make that argument And cheat in open court.
What do you think they'll do behind closed doors?
And that was just one example, Don.
I mean, there were times I'd get text messages from my volunteers.
Hey, the Dems have this big organizing event centered around these mail-in drop boxes.
And we would go down there and just watch them like this as they took stacks of mail-in ballots this high and shoved them in drop boxes.
Not allowed to do that.
It's completely illegal.
To this day, the number of votes, there were more votes than actual voters who voted on Election Day.
To this day, those numbers have still not been reconciled.
I can go on and on for a whole hour about this, but the last thing I'll say is this, Don.
The Democrats finally realized this.
I'm sure you referenced that bar graph of the popular vote going back to 16, and they're about the same for Republicans and Democrats.
You know, your dad comes along and all of a sudden the vote count grows in every election cycle.
But the Dems were right around 65 million, 70 million, and then Biden, 80, 81 million.
Clearly there was something that happened in 2020 that was a little bit skeptical.
I don't know about you, but I took pretty advanced statistics at the Wharton School of Finance at the University of Pennsylvania.
Like, that didn't happen.
That is not what we call an outlier.
That is insanity, right?
It is.
And so here's the funny thing.
All these Democrat operatives in Pennsylvania...
I mean, now they're all, like, they're really pissed off, Don, because, you know, as you know, when you run a campaign, whether it's a high-level campaign in a state like Pennsylvania or running for president, you're, like, buying the data of the campaign prior to you because that's the data that's the closest to the mission that you're trying to accomplish.
So we're talking down to the precinct level, who voted, like, what are their interests, how do you reach those people, where do they consume their media?
All of this, what was clearly corrupted data from the 2020 cycle, and it made them ridiculously complacent, and we knew that going into this cycle because we recognize...
This is why it's important to recognize and not be afraid of...
So do they actually believe their own BS, though?
No, I think for the first time ever, my point is, I think for the first time ever, these operatives in Pennsylvania are saying...
Okay, maybe 2020 was rigged.
I swear to God.
I don't know.
I swear to God.
I swear to God that's what they're saying because the numbers just don't add up and they bought all this corrupted data and even now they're waking up to the fact that, yeah, 2020 wasn't what it seemed to be.
So, you know, before we, I obviously want to get into a lot of the stuff as it relates to confirmation, the military, all of that, but, you know, you're joining in now to lead Pennsylvania Rising to keep this going, right?
Yes.
That's big news.
I love that.
You know, we gotta, you know, let's make Pennsylvania Florida, you know, you may not have the winters quite as nice, but the rest of it should be that way, you know.
What does this look like moving forward?
Because the reality is you need guys that take sort of ownership.
You obviously did a great job with that in Pennsylvania.
Others did that.
They're jumping to other states now.
It's like, good, we got control of some of these things.
Let's move on to the next one that we chipped away at pretty well but didn't quite get over the line.
What does that look like for you right now?
Can I tell you, just be candid with you here?
You know, I'm a leader.
What I do is build organizations.
I love to do it.
I was a leader since my time in the military.
And, you know, part of being a leader, you know this, as a business leader, Don, you're looking, you know, years in advance at what business projections will look like, what are the strategies you're going to use to take your business to certain places.
I'm very, very afraid, and I truly mean this, about what this party will look like after your father.
Looking at the numbers in Pennsylvania this entire cycle, And we were going to be all over the cheating this time because we knew their game.
I was very optimistic about your dad winning Pennsylvania.
And sure enough, he did in historic fashion.
But we got to win when Trump's not at the top of the ticket.
Exactly.
And that's exactly right.
You probably don't get Dave McCormick over the line as we did if Trump's not at the top of that ticket this time around.
So you get four years.
Obviously, I think J.D. Vance is a great talent.
I spent a lot of time getting him in there.
I think we now actually have a bench.
On the Republican Party, for the first time ever, it's like an American first bench.
I don't even want to call it like the Republican Party necessarily, but like, you know, an America first bench, which would be so critical.
But, you know, Trump is a unique character.
He is an anomaly.
We will probably never see anything like that again in politics.
When he got criticized for the joke, you know, back in the day about like, listen, I could probably shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue where no one would say anything.
And he's like...
I mean, that's the best part about your dad is his sense of humor.
The left has no sense of humor, so they can't wrap their mind around that stuff.
They're all just such intergalactic-level losers.
No sense of humor whatsoever.
They take themselves way too seriously.
Your dad is one of the funniest people that I've met.
And guess what?
That's part of his appeal.
Normal people get it, Don.
And you're right.
I mean, your dad...
I mean, I've said it since day one.
He brings out a crazy cross-section of voters, and our party has to figure out how to keep them.
And part of Pennsylvania Rising moving forward will be to go all in on these America First initiatives to keep that crazy coalition, this diverse coalition that turns out for him, At the table all the time.
And so part of the mission moving forward for Pennsylvania Rising is issues-based stuff.
Focusing on a very clear-cut and fiercely America-first agenda, and that means putting the citizens of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania first.
It shouldn't be that hard.
I'm watching the Democrats on TV post-election.
It's like, who cares if you can't afford groceries?
That trans three-year-old really needed a surgery without parental consent.
I'm like, hey, God bless.
If you want to go all in on this, it's like, what do I know?
I'm just the son of a billionaire from Manhattan.
Maybe...
Grocery prices probably don't affect me as much as they do ordinary Americans.
But if Donald Trump Jr. understands that that matters and the Democrats don't, there should be no future for that party.
It's so true.
It's very clear that they don't recognize how they got their asses whipped this last cycle.
They just don't get it.
And they continue to go all in on this insane stuff that is just completely out of step with the American people.
If you drive...
In a mile in any direction.
I mean this.
Just drive 30 minutes in any direction from my house.
You'll drive through two or three towns in western Pennsylvania, manufacturing towns, coal mining towns, steel towns that have been left behind by Republicans and Democrats.
And so part of our mission is going to be focusing on those people and making sure that they stay at the table.
And And really, you know, building an America First message to build a strong America First Republican Party, that's obviously part of it, you know, because, you know, your father's and Dave's legislative agendas, both for the president and in the Senate, have to be reflected in the state legislature.
That's how you effectuate real, permanent, effective change.
And so we've got to have a good state legislature in the state that reflects the priorities of your father and Dave McCormick in the Senate.
Continuing voter registration trends and we want to continue to add people to the permanent vote by mail list.
And I know what people are thinking.
Vote by mail sucks.
Of course it does.
You know, we should go to one day voting with paper ballots, but we will never get there unless we win.
So until that time, we fight the fight with the political rules of the battlefield as they are.
And then when we take power again, we secure elections in the way that we the way that we know is best.
So we're going to continue on that threefold mission, you know, for the next two years.
And Don, this year in Pennsylvania, it's critically important.
We've got three PA Supreme Court races that have come up this year that Republicans, by the way, completely screwed the pooch back in 2015 on where we got all these Soros-funded judges on the Pennsylvania Supreme Court.
They're the ones that gave us all of this crazy radical election stuff that we have in Pennsylvania.
We've got to win those races.
We've got to get people to vote no on their retention, but then get good conservatives in those positions.
So my point is...
When is that race, Sean?
And what can we do to make sure we highlight that and continue to highlight that?
Because that is so critical, right?
Yeah.
I don't want to win the presidency if we don't have the House and the Senate.
I've been there.
I've done my time, you know, under subpoena, you know, before Congress.
Like, it's not fun.
It's not good use of my time.
It's nonsense, but you still have to deal with it.
So, like, but the same thing goes true.
Like, we got to win all these down-ballot races.
Just supporting Trump and, like, not also voting for the Republican who would be in Senate, you know, but instead voting for the guy that would basically go against him.
You know, obviously, you know, in Pennsylvania, it was like a 98% with Biden record of voting.
Like that, you know, That's not pro-Trump.
That's not someone who's going to work with Trump.
That's someone who's going to try to block all his policies.
And people have to understand that this matters.
To your point about same day voting, Trump can't do that.
Dave McCormick can't do that.
The state legislature has to do that.
So we have to actually think about these lesser seats.
School boards, dog catcher, it doesn't matter.
We need it across the board.
You're so right.
And the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, I mean, this is the most...
And I think any Republican Supreme Court justice or conservative Supreme Court justice would attest to this, although I'd never speak for them.
But this is by far the most radical court in the country, in Pennsylvania.
Pennsylvania Supreme Court...
It's a Democrat supermajority court.
We've got one conservative on the bench now because we have not focused on these races.
And these Soros-funded judges, I mean, Soros gave each of these judges a million bucks back in 2015. Wow.
By the way, that's a lot of money on a judge seat ever.
It's even more in 2015. Wow.
Yeah.
And the problem is, I bet no one even knows that.
No one even knows that.
That's exactly right.
And here's the thing.
This 2025 race, it's where the people of the Commonwealth will vote as to whether or not they're retained.
So the first phase in this operation is to vote no on their retention and make them run again.
And then we put up strong conservatives and then organizations like, you know, Pennsylvania Rising and some of these other organizations that I want to build are going to come in and support those Supreme Court justices.
But Don, part of the reason why our election challenges in 2020 fell on deaf ears is because you had guys like Congressman Mike Kelly and myself challenging all of these things on a very rigorous constitutional basis.
They'd make it up to the PA Supreme Court.
And then what the PA Supreme Court would do would be like, okay, we're dismissing this with prejudice.
And when something's dismissed with prejudice, The justices basically say, okay, anybody else can bring this case in front of us except for Mike Kelly and Sean Parnell.
That's how these judges play.
And so what they're going to be is like they're a backstop to the radical Democrat policies of now Josh Shapiro or if the Democrats control the state legislature of them.
We got to stop.
Another great example of this, Don, is what they did with redistricting in Pennsylvania.
Like you had Mark Elias, who was a Russia collusion hoaxer, worked closely with Hillary Clinton to do that as his Democrat attorney.
He put forth what's called the Carter map in Pennsylvania, which is a map that's favorable to congressional Democrats.
And even though our constitutional courts, the Commonwealth Court, adopted a map that was fair, the PA Supreme Court said, no, we're not going to use that map.
We're going to use the Elias map.
It's like, we got to win these races.
We got to take the court back because this is the kind of crazy stuff that they can do to protect the Democrats.
So you mentioned Shapiro, you know, before we even started talking on the show, you know, we talked about John Fetterman a little bit.
You know, many think that, you know, Shapiro is sort of probably, you know, some of the best talent the Democrats have on a, you know, I don't just, I don't agree with any of his policies.
I can still say, you know, he's probably got some political talent.
How do you combat that?
I mean, Fetterman, I mean, I spent like most of the last year basically being the guy's, you know, borderline brain dead after the stroke and like, and Based on the debate with Dr. Oz a couple years ago, I don't think that was actually a stretch, but he has gone out and tried, and again, I can't tell if it's real or if it's fake, but he gets out there and actually takes some common sense sort of stances every once in a while.
Now, it doesn't align with his record or his voting record that I've seen in the past.
Certainly, Certainly not prior to, you know, becoming in the Senate.
You know, does he see the writing on the wall?
Is it an act?
You know, talk about those two guys because, you know, they're sort of interesting anomalies coming from sort of the same state.
Yeah, so let's talk about John Fetterman first.
John Fetterman...
For what it's worth, he understands this state.
He understands the Pennsylvania voter in a way that I haven't seen out of a Pennsylvania senator in a very long time.
And that right there in and of itself is a formidable weapon in his toolkit as a senator.
He's also got good political instincts.
And to your point, though, I personally don't believe It's legitimate because his voting record doesn't match up with his rhetoric.
He talks about supporting Israel, but he's voted against aid for Israel in the Senate every time it's come up.
So that's just one example.
But he definitely sees the writing on the wall.
Because he understands the state, he sees that it's trending red at not a snail's pace, at a pretty fast clip.
And he knows that if he's going to survive, if he is to survive in 2028, he's got to moderate himself.
And that's, I think, what you're seeing with his rhetoric, like very pragmatic rhetoric of, like he said the other day, like on The View, I think it was, hey, ladies, you know, It's okay.
We lost up and down the ballot.
We don't control the House.
We don't control the Senate.
When a new president wins and we get our asses kicked, he's entitled to his cabinet.
So he's out there saying stuff like that, which has many conservatives saying, yeah, that's pretty pragmatic.
And I think that's a strategy.
Will he vote for any of them?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's the real question.
I guess he said he was going to vote for Dr. Oz, so that's a good thing.
That's interesting.
Yeah, so we'll see.
I mean, we'll see what happens with that.
But Josh Shapiro is a little bit different.
Josh Shapiro...
Is a textbook Democrat that fakes a good game with being a moderate.
And Josh Shapiro is politically dangerous on so many levels.
One, he is not afraid to weaponize his position against and use the power of government to go after his political opponents.
That is not above him.
It's never been above him.
He is he has been on a very laser focused track to go from state representative to attorney general to governor, and he all with the focus on running for president.
So he is a political animal ladder climber through and through.
This is who he is.
So he's not afraid to weaponize the government against his political opponents.
He also does have some strong political.
He's very he's got some great talents, Don.
And I think you're spot on to say, hey, if we're going to win these races, we have to recognize the strengths in our political foes, right?
He's a strong candidate.
He fakes and talks a good game.
And in the state of Pennsylvania, and really our corporate media at large, they're not going to call out as radical...
When you have that kind of backstop, when you have that kind of artificial boosting, it's much easier to get away with it.
We don't get that luxury, right?
Yes.
And so part of what we're doing is going to be figuring out a way to go after him as well.
Because the thing with Josh Shapiro, we've laid out his strengths.
His weaknesses are he takes things very, very, very personally.
He's never really been attacked in any substantive way beyond a couple of social media hits here and there.
He's never had a candidate raise $30-40 million and go after his record.
never done that.
And so when you start doing these types of things to even the most talented of politicians, you get in their head and then they start making mistakes.
Josh Shapiro has never had an opponent like that.
And so part of our job, you know, you know, with Pennsylvania rising and some of the other things that we're building in Pennsylvania is to, you know, find someone who can do that, you know, who can meet that criteria and give them a formidable opponent in 2026.
Because it'd be a hell of a lot easier to stop him in 2026 before he jumps onto the national scene in 28.
Because, you know, that's coming.
Yeah, I was sort of wondering, I mean, I was very glad that Kamala Harris chose Tim Walsh because I was like, that guy's an imbecile.
Very clearly, I mean, it's not like, that's like an objective criteria.
Like, I am being kind.
You know, I think with, you know, whether it was decisions, whether it was the, you know, stances he took that, you know, his conduct, the flamboyance.
Yeah, how many walks out on stage, he's like, who waves like this?
Hey!
Spirit fingers!
Spirit fingers!
My kid waves like this!
Yeah.
Remember when they were like, MAGA is afraid of Tim Waltz's masculinity?
I was like, I don't know, dude!
He comes out on the stage with the leg kick.
What the hell was the leg kick?
I was like, yeah, it was like, yeah, that was a cheer squad.
Uh, I was glad of that.
Do you think that was because Kamala Harris was worried about a Josh Shapiro type overshadowing her because he does have some actual talent unlike her?
Or do you think that was her not being willing to cater to the Hamas caucus, which is a problem for...
You know, probably someone named Shapiro.
You know, just saying it.
I mean, yes.
Yeah, definitely.
Which one is it?
Or is it a combination of all of them?
Or is it that he just didn't want it because he didn't want to be tied to what was clearly a sinking ship, Kamala Harris?
Yeah, I think it's all three.
I think Kamala Harris, and look, anybody that knows her, to include her Democrat senator colleagues in Washington, she's reviled in the Democrat Party.
I mean, obviously the American people have rejected her.
She, in 2020, didn't even make the first caucus.
She got less than 1% in the Democrat primary in 2020. And I kept saying that to people.
They're like, no, but she's loved.
I'm like, no, no.
She's loved as of three weeks ago when she took over in a coup.
But before that, even the Democrats hated her.
I love, though, that she's leading.
I understand that's not real, but it's sort of funny.
I'm like, yes, please.
You have my full and total endorsement.
Complete and total endorsement to go with my father.
That would be a gift.
That would be a gift to the conservative movement.
Yeah, because all I wanted to see, frankly, was the J.D. Kamala Harris debate.
That was...
That was like all I wanted for Christmas.
It never happened.
J.D. obviously mopped the floor with Walt, but I really was looking forward to that when Joe Biden was still in the mix.
Yeah, and so I think Kamala, I do think Kamala likes, she likes the pomp and circumstance.
She likes the clout of the position.
She's not a heavy hitter when it comes to policy.
She doesn't even particularly like doing the job.
Anyone that knows her will tell you this.
And so I do think that, you know, when you get to that level of politics, there's a certain amount of ego, especially on the Democrat side of the aisle.
People don't want to be outshined by their potential vice presidential candidate.
I also think that the Dems have a lot, a very, very real anti-Semite problem in their base.
And I think that selecting Josh Shapiro would have fractured their base even further.
And I think even beyond both of those two things, Don, I hear that Josh Shapiro didn't want him because he knew that...
She was a sinking ship and going to have real problems, not just in Pennsylvania, but in swing states all across the country.
And you put yourself in Josh Shapiro's shoes.
She's such a terrible candidate.
And I mean this.
She is one of the worst candidates ever to grace the top of the ticket in the history of our country.
Just bad enough to wear...
I think, you know, because people weren't voting really for the vice president, Don.
You know, there's a chance he loses Pennsylvania.
And so what political capital does he have moving forward if he's selected to be Kamala Harris's vice president for the express sole purpose of carrying Pennsylvania, but because she's such a shit candidate, can't even do that.
So, I mean, like, why take that risk?
Yeah, I imagine the same sort of stuff was going through, you know, Gavin Newsom's head.
I imagine Gretchen Whitmer.
Gretchen Whitmer probably would have taken it, but like...
You know, yeah, I don't know.
It was an interesting thing to see play out.
Yeah, well, I'll just tell you, I'm very glad that she picked Walls because he is, you know, buffoonish in almost every single way.
Although it's sort of funny watching the postmortems when he's like, the campaign didn't do this, they didn't do that.
Like, I mean, even the clown is calling out the clown Joe.
It's just great to see.
You love to see it, Sean.
You love to see it.
For sure.
I mean, and what's amazing is that the Democrats don't know what we did or they're resistant to actually figuring it out.
The one guy who is not.
Is James Carvel.
Like, I hear him talk.
And by the way, we probably don't agree on anything, but he is kind of entertaining and funny to watch.
Like, I could probably have a drink with the guy.
Yeah, he's a caricature now.
He's a caricature, yeah.
But it's funny when he's mother effing, you know, some young person who, you didn't let her go on the podcast.
She probably would have blown it anyway, but I'm going to fire that guy and the guy that hired him, yada, yada, yada.
It was pretty good.
I was like, I like it.
That was the best.
When he said that, I would fire that 23-year-old and then I'd find the person who hired him and I'd fire them too.
And I'm like, no, this guy is politically dangerous.
What's up with Carvel in the sense that...
Okay, like, I get it.
You're a Democrat.
But, like, what about Democrat policy do you actually still believe in?
Like, you're an old-school Democrat when they, like, actually made sense.
Like, do you really think that, like, minors should be transitioning?
I mean, the hills to die on aren't.
Like, the other pundits are on there saying, I don't care if you can't afford groceries.
We need, you know, whatever the hell they needed.
Like, so has he had that reckoning yet?
Because I haven't seen that.
It's just like, this is how they lost.
They made some stupid decisions.
But I'm like, well, like...
It's the policy.
It's what you did to the economy.
It's the never-ending wars.
Like...
I get it.
You're a Democrat, but you can't realize that maybe today's Republican Party resembles more the classic Democrat Party than today's Democrat Party by a long shot.
Yeah, and I mean, if you look at, obviously, James Carville, a major advisor to an integral in Bill Clinton's victory back in the day, if you listen to Bill Clinton's State of the Union addresses, talking about illegal immigration, he sounds...
His positions then are where we are today.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And really, James Carbell should be really offended, Don, because his wisdom of it's the economy, stupid.
In other words, like, you take care of the economy, you foster a climate, an economic climate that is pro-growth, you know, putting it simply, then a lot of other things fall into place because the American people really do truly vote with their pocketbook and kitchen table issues.
If the American people are having trouble paying for eggs and milk and fuel, that's going to cause a lot of issues for any president, Democrat or Republican.
So James Carvel's wisdom of it's the economy, stupid, was great.
But Biden and all these these new Democrats turned that on its head completely.
And they went from it's the economy, stupid, to the economy is great, stupid.
They tried to gaslight us.
I'm like, if I have sticker shock as Donald Trump Jr., like we got a problem.
And so do the Democrats.
That's probably true.
So everyone's got to check out Pennsylvania Rising and what Sean's doing.
But Sean, while I have a warfighter on, I actually want to talk about the warfighters.
I want to jump into something that Pete Hexeth has been talking about a lot.
I mean, it looked like that was sort of...
The knives in the swamp and big war and the military-industrial complex were going out for him.
But because he is a fighter, he fought back.
And it looks like a lot of those guys that were getting squishy on that are coming back around.
So I want to hear your thoughts on the confirmation process, how how what looked like, you know, people were in trouble.
And, you know, once there was blood in the water, everything else that follows it, whether it's Bobby, Tulsi, Cash, all these guys would have also been in trouble.
Looks like Pete's doing great now.
We turn that around hard.
And honestly, it's because of people, like the people watching this, calling out the nonsense from the senators that were taking this ridiculous pro-Democrat approach.
It's like, no, no, no.
There's a mandate.
These are the people Americans want.
So it actually had much less to do with D.C. politics than it did from pressure from the outside.
But we see the Pentagon's failed seven audits.
The Pentagon's doing a disaster.
They're making policy about the warmongers.
You know...
What is, you know, when Pete's been talking about that, how the Pentagon's so resistant to actually letting someone who's fought the wars be a decision maker rather than the people simply pushing the wars for profit.
We've discussed many times there's no money in peace.
You know, what does that all mean to you?
And how's it resonating, you know, again, outside of the D.C., you know, bubbles?
Well, first of all, you know, all cards on the table.
I've known Pete for a very long time before Pete was on Fox and everything.
He was in the infantry.
I was in the infantry.
And we worked together.
You know, I was his senior advisor, the senior advisor for the organization at Concerned Veterans for America, while Pete was the chief executive officer.
We did everything together, Don.
That's right.
You know what?
I totally forgot that you actually were on.
This is one of the things they were criticizing him for.
And then You know, anonymous sources said he did XYZ. Everyone involved, everyone who took responsibility, everyone who would be in trouble if they were lying about it, were all like, there's nothing here.
Like, this is all a lie.
I mean, look, this is very personal for me for a lot of reasons.
One, you know, Pete's my friend, and I have the backs of my friends, period, full stop.
That's just how it goes.
And we should measure the quality of our friendships and relationships with people that we have in our lives based upon whether or not those people are there when times are shit.
You know, it's real easy to be around somebody when times are great.
You got a lot of strap hangers when that's happening.
But, you know, I saw Pete going through that.
And then I read that New Yorker piece by Jane Jane Meyer.
And I mean, I was at all of those events.
I was I was a part of the organization at the exact same time.
Part of the conversations when Pete departed the organization, I left shortly after him, actually at the exact same time for the same reason.
Do you know why Pete left CVA?
It had nothing to do with alcohol.
It had nothing to do with financial mismanagement or any leadership issues at all.
We built that organization into a titan of an organization, Don.
But you know why he left out of loyalty to President Trump?
Because at the time this was back.
He left in 2015.
I was on the calls, Don.
I was in the meetings like he left that organization and I did as well.
When your dad had just won his first term and.
All along that campaign, Pete and I started thinking like, hey, we fought these war wars before.
We hear what, you know, President Trump is saying, and we kind of agree with it.
And we started doing media hits that reflected an America First foreign policy.
And the folks who funded these organizations and back then, or Concerned Veterans for America was under the Americans for Prosperity umbrella, um, You know, the people who funded those organizations back then, their foreign policy views back then, I'm not talking about today.
I didn't realize that, man.
I didn't realize.
Yeah, that's what it was.
So that's why even the rhino, because that's the rhino, like, neocon, you know, warmonger faction of the Republican Party, or at least, you know, what's left of it, but that's still very real.
I had...
By the way, I did not know that that was a link.
That's a really big deal because that is...
That's what he left.
It was because it was out of loyalty.
We left because out of loyalty to your dad.
100%.
And it wasn't a negative thing.
It was like, hey, look, our policy priorities don't align anymore.
I mean, it was completely amicable.
And then we left but stayed on.
And when Mark Lucas, the following executive director...
He kept on Pete's entire executive team.
He inherited an organization that was strong.
I mean, there was no...
It was not because of poor leadership.
It had nothing to do with financial mismanagement and had nothing to do with alcohol.
That was all fake.
And so it had everything to do with We're America first now.
That's just it.
Well, Sean, I mean, you know, I wouldn't be Donald Trump Jr. if I didn't make a totally inappropriate joke about, like, you know, are you really, like, in the Trump administration without, like, a fake, like, harassment claim?
And, like, you know, I mean, don't you need a couple hoaxes to really, like, check the box?
I mean, God knows.
I know what they did to you and your family.
Like, you become America first.
You're not really America first if they don't claim you did something terrible that you obviously never did without evidence or whatever it is.
But it doesn't mean you don't have to still deal with it.
But, you know, it was sort of funny.
I've had this conversation with my father a bunch about, you know, during the Russia, Russia, Russia times.
I was like, he's like, yeah, that was brutal.
Honestly, it was one of the better things that ever happened to me because, like, you find out who you are.
And my father's like, you know, he's like, you're right.
Like, you know, it just made me so much tougher.
It made me a fighter in a different way than you and Pete, obviously.
I mean, you know, I'm not saying like, you know, in a combat sense, but like in a mental combat sense, it's very much real.
And I was like, yeah, like that was actually like very formative to who I am today.
Without that, it's like, I don't know.
I've been blessed.
I've been, you know, I've had it, you know, relatively easy compared to most just being born into my family and whatever it may be.
And I recognize that fully.
I'm very self-aware about it.
But, you know, my father's right.
He goes, yeah, you know, I never thought of it that way.
I felt so bad that these guys are want to throw you in jail for life.
You don't even know what the hell you did.
And it's like, I was like, yeah, but it's probably the best thing that ever happened to me because it created, you know, a bit of a warrior.
Yeah, Don, I, that is such a great point.
And I completely agree, having gone through this in the Senate.
The crazy thing about it, when you recount what happened, I got your father's endorsement.
We were crushing it in the primary, up over 30 points over every opponent in the primary.
A year out before Election Day, up over six points over John Fetterman, all because of your dad and we had an awesome movement going.
The day after that, the Department of Veterans Affairs leaked my medical record.
The media started painting a narrative of me that I drank, I was angry, and that women were a problem.
It's like, oh, wait, where have I seen this playbook before?
Oh, it's the exact same thing they're doing to Pete.
It's ridiculous.
And then they weaponized the court system against me.
I mean, you know, I'm not going to recap all that.
But the point is, That shaped me into an absolute political killer and opened my eyes to the system, how rotten and corrupt it is, and how it just needs a total overhaul.
if they didn't do that you almost need it to be effective meaning yes without without that you don't have an understanding of how depraved it actually is you just you know it was like me i used to like when i got into this i was like you know even with the beginning of russia russia russia it was like so naive i was like well no i mean the fbi said it there has to be something to it like i you know i don't know like i must have taken a selfie with you know some sort of russian asset and like i don't know i took 10 000 selfies that day you know i didn't i did not i did anything intentionally like there has the cia said
it like they must be like you know because i believed in sort of the america that you that you and I grew up believing in.
Like, you know, that's what I was fighting to preserve that America.
Instead, now I actually realized that America doesn't exist.
It hasn't for a long time.
That is the America I'm fighting to help recreate or perhaps create for the first time, at least in modern history.
And there's a really distinct difference there.
I could not agree with you more.
And I grew up, I mean, I love this country.
I loved our institutions.
I mean, look, your audience is probably going to like talk shit and laugh at me for saying this, but I was 20 something after 9-11 happened, signed up after 9-11.
And when they proposed the Patriot Act, do you want to know what I said?
I was like, I'm a Patriot.
Of course we should do that.
Like the moron that I was.
Whenever they name an act, it's always the opposite.
Just so we're clear.
Yeah.
But no, but wait, so I was, you know, I was with a guy that, you know, this past weekend, you know, hunting buddy of mine who was a Delta guy, you know, one of the guys that pulled, you know, I guess Saddam Hussein out of the, you know, out of the pit when they found him, like, you know, serious operator, great patriot, awesome dude, you know what I mean?
Like one of us, like, and, you know, but I was, so I asked the question, I was like, well, you know, now, like in hindsight, what do you think about all of it?
You know, 20, you know, 30 years later, and it's like, Yeah, like, you know, I wouldn't change anything because at the time I was working with what I did and I was just, but like, you know, hearing how all these guys have come to, like, oh my God, like my friends bled and died for a lie and for bullshit and to protect the interests of, you know, big war.
And, you know, it's hard, man.
It's hard.
It's disgusting that it ever happened.
But, you know, now we have that chance to do things.
I think that's why Pete is such a threat to the swamp.
I mean, you know, he's actually taking the job for the right reasons and not like to protect, you know, the financial interests of Raytheon defense contracts and, you know, and others.
They're not the only guilty party, obviously.
I use that a lot because it flows off the tongue better.
But, you know, but but all of them.
I mean, you know, I look at some of these other generals.
If you're a three or four star, you are there because you were a political appointee at that point.
Like that, you know, the warfighters don't get to that level.
The guys that will tell you common sense or speak truth to power, they never make it there.
Once you get the three and four stars, you're just a political animal.
And you see that, you know, Millie's out there with his badge of medals.
I'm like, I don't remember you winning a war like Eisenhower has like the one little thing.
Like it's it's such a it's such a scam.
And I think that's why Pete is such a threat to them, because he'll actually represent guys like you.
The guys doing the shit, the guys that we all respect and not just the corporate interests of the guys who's who are literally there.
because their off-ramp is that board seat at Boeing or Raytheon.
Yeah, and you want to know why that is, Don?
I mean, talking generally speaking, but I went into the military intending to make it a career and never getting out because I love my country.
We were attacked on 9-11.
I was all in it going after the enemy, you know, and so...
I went to Afghanistan a couple of years later, and 485 days of combat, 85% of my platoon was wounded, some twice, some three times I was wounded.
We killed over 350 enemy fighters, never hurt a single civilian in Afghanistan.
Very proud of that service and proud of the conduct of my soldiers in combat.
But when you go through that, hundreds of firefights in my base, Don, when we were at Ford Operating Base Burmel, which is right on the Afghan-Pakistan border, we got hit with over 4,000 plus indirect fire attacks there.
Over 4,000.
So, came back from that, I'm like, okay, my nine lives are up.
I'm not doing a career.
Eventually, it was taken out of my hand, and I was medically retired as a captain on my way to major.
Now...
Most guys that were the warfighters, that have been through something similar, that have actually had bullets cracked by their head, come to the same conclusion.
But those are precisely the guys that you want to stay in, who get the stars on their shoulder, who help lead an effective military based on merit.
But the problem is, many of the warfighters have that experience.
And they say, you know what, I gotta get out.
And they're getting shanked.
The amount of guys in the last six months that basically came like...
I mean, like serious operators, the guys we spend millions of, you know, SEALs, whatever it may be, Rangers, like, we're like, hey, you know, I'm trying to get an extension because I'm supposed to either retire or re-sign up, and I'm trying to get an extension so I can see what happens in the election, because I'm not doing this again, you know, for a warmongering party.
I'll serve my country under your father, but not under Kamala Harris.
And I mean...
It's actually scary because the notion of losing all these guys, I mean, that's just more Americans dead because you lose those experienced warfighters, the guys that have done it and led, because you are going to be in conflict.
I mean, there's going to be things that are going to have to be done.
You lose those guys and you have a bunch of green guys doing it.
You're just not going to get the same outcome.
That's just basic common sense.
Well, and Don, what you also lose is 20 years of tip-of-the-spear warfighting experience.
So yes, what do we have to show for Iraq and Afghanistan?
By the way, it was all of the experienced people, the right people that the system told us that we should put in these positions that got us into Iraq, that got us into Afghanistan.
That surrendered Afghanistan in the most horrifying public way.
That now got us entangled in a quagmire in Ukraine.
All the experienced people did that.
So you know what?
I'll take an outsider like Pete.
It was like when Trump won in 16. If he doesn't have experience, and experience got us to where we are, I'm good with no experience.
It's fine.
The experience has not led to results.
And so it's insane.
So, well, listen, I think now we have like this incredible opportunity, perhaps the best opportunity ever to achieve like actual America first greatness.
I want to ask you, Sean, before we finish up, what's your one minute, you know, minute one, you know, inauguration day agenda to get these things going?
In the military or just at large?
In general.
But, you know, obviously, your expertise is going to be the military.
But, you know, well, obviously, obviously, you got to secure the border.
Obviously, you know, have to become not just energy independent, but energy dominant.
Obviously, that has serious economic implications, but also, you know, global national security implications as well.
If you don't support if you hate Vladimir Putin, then being energy dominant Completely destroys his economy.
So those two things right off the bat, which your dad is, of course, laser focused on.
But then in the military, just getting back to warfighting and lethality, the idea that the military is not a social experiment.
We should not be focused on diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Every single general, and I mean this, every single strategic level leader, here's how you sift this stuff out.
Anybody that's out there that said diversity is our strength needs to be looked at because that is not true.
It's true.
Anybody who says it's not, look, the fact that we're intellectually diverse in our military, that's great.
The fact that we have, you know, lots of different backgrounds is a good thing.
But it's never about, you know, it's like college campuses, right?
They want diversity in anything other than, like, intellectual.
Like, you know, they want diversity of color, you know, this, that, the other, but, like, not the things that you would actually think of at university.
Same thing, I don't know if you've seen the show.
We've, for the last few weeks, we've highlighted these videos coming out of the VA, you know.
Oh, I've seen it.
It's insane, yeah.
These are my pronouns.
They're talking to guys that lost limbs about pronouns, and they're talking to them like they're three-year-olds, or this would be something that matters, and they've spent millions and millions of dollars, rather than like...
I don't know, fixing, you know, the veterans, you know, the administration, they're pushing pronouns and agendas, and they got, you know, prosthetic limbs for trans, you know, not like a leg, but like maybe a third leg, you know, for people going through a transitioning, and I'm like, what are you talking about?
Like, what is going, like, I think I'm being punk.
Like, South Park could do nothing on this.
Like, it was just other than maybe play the actual video.
Like they could not make it dumber or worse.
And yet, like, this is what our taxpayer dollars were going for.
And Don, it's, you know, anytime you hear somebody that says diversity is our strength, that's a big indicator that they're not a good fit for the job.
Because what makes our military exceptional is unity, not diversity.
It's the fact that, yeah, we can put aside our many differences, you know, color, skin color, you know, religion, you know, politics, political background and say, no, none of that matters.
We're a part of the greatest fighting force in the world.
And we're focused on one singular mission, and that is winning wars.
Anything else, you know, any diversity class, any pronoun BS, anything that takes away from our ability to fight and win wars is a distraction and it needs to be rooted out.
And then, obviously, getting the Pentagon to pass an audit because they haven't in seven years is also a pretty big priority to make sure that our taxpayer dollars and the money that's being appropriated to the Pentagon is being spent in the most effective way possible.
But, you know, last thing I'll say is this about the army.
I'm telling you, there is a huge problem with the United States Army right now, Don.
And this is the last thing I'll say, I promise, because I know we're coming up against the end.
But when I joined the military, we were largely focused on More conventional fighting force, the Soviets, Cold War era army, we shifted to what's called brigade combat teams, which were, to speak simply about it, to fight asymmetric threats as part of the global war on terror.
So what does that look like?
It means when we were tasked organized as a military to fight against conventional forces, we had surface-to-air missiles and platoons.
So in other words, we could be fighting against the Russians, light infantry on the battlefield, you have a Russian Hindy helicopter there, you've got to have Stinger missiles to take it out, otherwise you're done.
When we moved the brigade combat teams, those elements were taken out of platoons.
So we've had a brigade combat team structure for the last 20-some years in Iraq, Afghanistan, but now all the threats that we face are conventional.
China, for one.
And then Russia, for another.
Iran.
I mean, these are all conventional threats.
So our army right now needs to be laser-focused on evolving our force back to fighting conventional threats again.
What does that look like?
What does a table organization and equipment look like?
What's our task organization look like?
Because right now...
We are not equipped to fight conventional forces, and I've not heard a single person talk about that.
That is priority one for the United States.
I actually want to, like, we'll talk.
I'm going to talk to my team.
Like, I want to do a whole show on that because that is so important, especially, you know, in the advent of, you know, drone war.
You know, I'm watching some of these drone videos out of Russia and Ukraine.
And it's not like us when we send a $2 billion missile, you know, to take out, you know, one person and usually, you know, a bunch of civilian casualties, you know, You know, happened at the same time, but like, you know, they're using like a $300 drone from Amazon to take out 20 guys, literally with a little, you know, servo that drops a grenade.
I'm like, wow, like the battlefield is changing rapidly with technology.
I mean, you know, I would love to use more drones to get our guys out of harm's way and all these things.
I believe strongly in that.
Most of that technology, other than one or two places, coming out of China and everything like that.
So I'm a big believer in all of that stuff.
But we should do an entire show on that, because that would be amazing.
There's so much there.
And again, using a $300 drone is not as profitable as selling a multi-million dollar missile to accomplish the same thing.
We've got to get the Pentagon thinking that way as well.
Yeah, and I'm telling you, this is priority one.
Needs to happen on day one.
Whoever's in charge of this job has got to be laser focused over the next four years at evolving our army because I'm telling you, we are at great, great, great risk right now.
Well, Sean, thank you very much as always.
Let me know when you get down to Florida next time.
I promise you won't get arrested by Secret Service this time going back tomorrow.
I'll go.
We stayed around.
We hung out, had cigars a little bit late.
I think Sean rolls up to Mar-a-Lago where we were staying with his wife at like 4 o'clock in the morning.
And let's just say the Secret Service and local sheriffs did not just believe that he was just a guest at Mar-a-Lago coming out.
I'm like, I swear to God, Don Jr. is my friend.
I'm like, here's a picture with me and Don 20 minutes ago.
Like, what do you want?
We will make sure that doesn't happen again.
But in the meantime, guys, check out Pennsylvania Rising.
If you're into Pennsylvania, get involved.
Check out those races.
That Supreme Court thing we were talking about earlier is a huge deal in being able to actually effectuate these policies.
It's not enough just to have Dave McCormick in there as a senator.
We need more than that, and we've got to get involved down tickets.
So check that out.
Pennsylvania Rising.
Sean, thank you very much.
As always, you're the man.
See you, Don.
Take care, my friend.
Be good.
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