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Make America Healthy Again, Interview with Robert F Kennedy Jr | TRIGGERED Ep.175

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	you hey guys welcome to another huge
	episode of triggered and today Today is gonna be.
	Thank you.
	Probably one of the most important episodes we've ever done.
	It's one that I've been wanting to do for quite some time.
	We have RFK Jr., Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	on the show, and there is so much to talk about.
	We'll obviously cover a lot of politics, but we'll also discuss health policy.
	Make America Healthy again, guys.
	We've seen what goes on in America.
	We see how America stacks up to the rest of the world.
	We see stuff that we feed our children each and every day that is literally illegal in other parts of the world, and yet...
	They have the same products.
	They just change out the garbage ingredients.
	So we're going to discuss health policy, chronic disease, philosophy, his own personal story about why he decided to take on some of the biggest drug companies in the world.
	There's a lot to unpackage here.
	Obviously, an incredible show of unity.
	I mean, honestly, a year ago, who would have ever had a Kennedy Endorsing, and more importantly, not just endorsing, but working with, a Trump.
	One of the great Democrat family legacies in American politics.
	With, maybe I'll be a little bit biased here, one of the great conservative legacies.
	It's gonna be awesome.
	You are not gonna want to miss any of it.
	So guys, make sure you're liking, sharing, subscribing, all of that stuff, so you don't miss a major episode like this.
	We gotta get this message out there.
	The rest of big tech, the mainstream media, all of it.
	is stacked against us. You see the lies being exposed every day. So we just have to work harder
	and smarter to make sure we break through all of that noise and actually grow this movement,
	this unified movement of common sense Americans who want to put America first,
	who wants what's best for our kids. Okay, don't forget guys, you can also get triggered on Spotify.
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	For all of the top headlines that we'll spotlight here on the show when we go through News of the Week and otherwise, go also check out my news app, MXM News, like minute-by-minute, M-X-M, where you can get the mainstream news without the mainstream bias.
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	And now, guys, before we get to RFK Jr, let's take a look at some of today's top headlines.
	As I said earlier this week, many on the left are purposely fanning the flames to put my father's life in even more danger following yet another assassination attempt.
	Kamala Harris, Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, the Democrat members of Congress have all repeatedly used terms like a threat to democracy to describe the Trump campaign.
	There's no doubt that this is directly tied, directly tied to the continued political violence we are seeing coming from the left.
	They are doing it on purpose.
	There is no other explanation at this point.
	And this week, the White House press secretary, Corinne Jean-Pierre, was asked about the use of this violent rhetoric.
	And her response, shockingly, She claimed that asking her that question is quote, incredibly dangerous.
	Asking her the question about the language that they're using that calls my father every name in the book and incites some of the lunatics on their side to actually go out there and try to kill him is incredibly dangerous.
	These aren't serious people.
	Two days since somebody allegedly tried to kill Donald Trump again.
	And you're here at the podium in the White House briefing room calling him a threat.
	How many more assassination attempts on Donald Trump until the president and the vice president
	and you pick a different word to describe Trump other than threat?
	Peter, if anything from this administration, I actually completely disagree with the premise
	of your question. The question that you're asking.
	It is also incredibly dangerous in the way that you're asking it, because American people are watching.
	And to say that, to say that from an administration who has consistently condemned political violence, from an administration where the president called the former president and was thankful, grateful that he was okay, from an administration who has called out January 6th, called out the attack of Paul Pelosi, called out and said we need to lower the temperature after the Butler incident, And now for you to make that kind of comment in your question, because your question involved a comment and a statement.
	And, you know, that is also incredibly dangerous.
	But of course it does not stop there.
	Because, like clockwork, you know, none other than Hillary herself, Hillary Clinton, showed up on MSDNC and actually encouraged the media to intensify their rhetoric about my father.
	Not to tone it down, to intensify it.
	Check it out.
	And I don't understand why it's so difficult for the press to have a consistent narrative about how dangerous Trump is.
	You know, the late, great journalist Terry Evans, you know, one time said that, you know, journalists should, you know, really try to achieve objectivity.
	And by that, he said, I mean, they should cover the object.
	Well, the object in this case is Donald Trump.
	Hillary knows exactly what she's doing, guys.
	Just like her endless lies about Russia collusion, she will use her media lapdogs to lie, to smear, to put a literal target on my father.
	She's never got over her loss in 2016, and she never will.
	So she lashes out with despicable comments like that.
	And folks, just like I've been telling you, it's always those who preach civility and tolerance, the ones that scream about the most, who are the first ones to spew nonstop hate and rage against anyone that challenges their reckless pursuit of power.
	That's just who the left is, okay?
	They're not even pretending anymore.
	And that's exactly who this would-be assassin Ryan Routh is.
	Because get this, back in 2022, Ralph was interviewed in Kiev, where he talked about how much he was committed to kindness, generosity, and altruism.
	How we all needed to just stand up to hate.
	You really can't make it up anymore.
	I mean, it's absolutely insane.
	But this is what the left does with their projection.
	They say one thing, they do the other.
	You accuse the other side of doing all of the things that you're doing.
	Okay?
	Check it out.
	...represent the civilians that are here fighting.
	It doesn't represent the government, but we are keeping account of all the civilians that are here fighting, that have come from their own countries.
	They've sold everything they've owned.
	They've sold their vehicles, their cars, their motorcycles, everything to come here and support Ukrainians.
	So, it is truly heroic.
	What these kids and adults have done as far as getting here on their own dime and spending their own money to come here and fight with the Ukrainians.
	But it's only a small percentage.
	If we have 5,000 here against 5 billion adults, it is nothing.
	It's a drop in the bucket.
	And we need 100,000 people here fighting.
	This square should be filled with thousands of people from every country.
	We've only got 50 countries represented.
	We've got 190 countries.
	So obviously we're missing 140 countries.
	So that's unacceptable.
	So, you know, every representative, every civilian from every country needs to come here.
	You know, this is an indictment of every civilian's Uh, good and evil compass.
	You know, if you're not here and you're sitting on your couch watching TV, then you're not doing the right thing.
	You know, this is about caring and kindness and loving and altruism and everything that's good in the world.
	We need to show Putin that generosity is what runs this world.
	And not cruelty and terrorism.
	So this is an instrumental moment.
	We cannot let the interest in this war drop off to nothing and leave the Ukrainians stranded and leave me stranded here for the next 10 years.
	It can't happen.
	We've got to do better.
	Guys, my father is never going to stop fighting for America.
	He's going to fix our economy.
	He's going to stop the wars.
	He's going to keep our kids safe.
	And for some reason, that's why the left hates him so much.
	It's why the stakes have never been higher.
	Check out this clip from my father's rally.
	These encounters with death have not broken my will.
	They have really given me a much bigger and stronger mission.
	They've only hardened my resolve to use my time on Earth to make America great again for all Americans to put America first.
	And to put America first.
	I mean, in all seriousness, ask yourself, why does the left spew endless hate and attacks against all things Trump?
	Just for wanting a more prosperous America?
	For wanting our kids to be safe?
	To have our country flourish?
	To end the endless wars?
	While all of these same people lavish praise on Hollywood moguls like P. Diddy, who this week was arrested on federal sex trafficking and racketeering charges.
	Um, it never ends.
	We should check out this clip from Jimmy Kimmel wanting to be P. Diddy's vice president.
	These are the people they look up to, folks.
	According to the indictment, Diddy bust, threatened, and coerced women and others around him to fulfill his sexual desires, protect his reputation, and conceal his conduct, laying out allegations of drug-fueled freak-offs and criminal sexual abuse.
	But get this.
	Back in 2020, Kamala Harris was thanking Diddy for hosting a town hall.
	Quote, Thank you Diddy for hosting this town hall last night.
	There's a lot at stake for our communities right now and it's critical we bring to the forefront how coronavirus, can't make it up, is perpetuating racial inequality and health disparities.
	And now, how will ABC News try and fact jack that one?
	I'm guessing, I'm going to go out on a limb here, folks.
	I'm going to guess they're going to do it by pretending it doesn't even exist.
	They're not even going to cover it.
	As I mentioned, creepy Jimmy Kimmel even said he wanted to run for office as Diddy's vice president.
	Don't believe me?
	Check it out.
	Maybe you could be president.
	Do you ever think about anything like that?
	No.
	Really?
	Never?
	No.
	Why?
	I wouldn't make a good president.
	You don't think you'd be good?
	I wouldn't really pass any of the things that you have to pass.
	But I guess Trump did it.
	Yeah, no.
	No.
	You would be a Boy Scout by comparison.
	Yeah, yeah.
	Nah, um, I like doing what I'm doing.
	You like doing, yeah, yeah.
	There's no fun in that, is there?
	I don't know if I could be responsible for the whole country.
	You know what, I think that at this point, almost anybody would be doing a better job.
	What about you?
	And I wouldn't do a better job, but I think, you know what, if you agreed to run for president, I would be happy to be your running mate.
	Let's put it that way, alright?
	What a clown.
	But yet, to these people, Trump is the bad guy for wanting to secure our border, lower our costs, educate our kids, stop the wars.
	It really makes you think about just how deep and corrupt the swamp really is.
	And rather than hold any of these far-left Democrat lunatics accountable for their behavior, the media is too busy trying to once again tell everyone, everything's gonna be okay.
	If we just keep voting for the Democrats who put us in this mess in the first place.
	Look at this new peaceful Paul Krugman in the New York Times that's titled, and I quote, We beat inflation.
	Here's what the Fed should do now.
	Really?
	I'm sorry guys.
	I missed the part somehow.
	I somehow must have missed the part where we beat inflation.
	When exactly did that happen?
	I'm still pissed off when I go to the gas station.
	I'm still pissed off when I go to the grocery store with my kids.
	And I'm blessed in many respects far more than so many Americans who can't afford to feed their families.
	Who are choosing between meals and rent.
	That shouldn't be happening in America.
	We didn't beat inflation, but it doesn't stop Nobel laureate economists from telling you that.
	From gaslighting you.
	From thinking you're stupid.
	Because, guys, the new data this week actually shows that American workers' wages are still losing to the pace of inflation.
	In fact, the data from the Labor Department shows that the past 16 months of real wage growth has not been enough to offset the past four years where prices rose disproportionately quicker than wages.
	Hmm.
	Seems like an important point.
	Seems like something a Nobel laureate economist would mention if he wasn't lying to you.
	If he wasn't willing to be a regime propagandist.
	Like the other media lapdogs out there working exclusively for the Democrat Party.
	And there's still no serious spending cuts from Kamala Harris.
	Again, she's gonna change so much, but she's in power now and has been for four years.
	Hasn't bothered to start doing any of these things, but promise me, trust me, it's gonna happen one day, right guys?
	So if anything, it's only going to get worse between now and the end of the year, unless the Fed tries to bail her out.
	And remember, if Kamala Harris was going to fix anything, folks, we've got to be clear about this.
	She would have done it for the last four years.
	She's been in charge for that long.
	This is the Biden-Harris administration.
	Nothing is going to change.
	And lastly, we're now learning more about the detonations of pagers used by members of the Iran-backed Hezbollah terror group.
	According to reports, the pagers used by Hezbollah that exploded were made in Hungary, but were
	the brand of a Taiwanese company called Gold Apollo.
	These exploding pagers killed 12 suspected terrorists and injured thousands more.
	According to former Israeli officials who spoke to Axios, Israel conducted the Lebanon
	pager attack after a Hezbollah operative raised suspicions about the pagers in recent days.
	And perhaps most interesting is that the report also suggests that this was a sophisticated
	plan to infiltrate the supply chain, and that the explosive material were put into the pagers
	prior to their delivery and use.
	And then yesterday, there was reportedly another targeting against Hezbollah, this time targeting walkie-talkies.
	Is this the next front in global warfare?
	Could this be done with cell phones too?
	Will Hezbollah have to use carrier pigeons next?
	Maybe smoke signals?
	We will definitely continue to follow all of this.
	And coming up in just moments, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
	will be here to discuss all of it.
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	Okay, guys, this is one, again, I'm super excited about.
	Joining me now, lawyer, former presidential candidate, truth teller, brilliant all-around guy, actually.
	And, you know, I'll say this, you know, Bobby Kennedy, you know, a couple of months ago, when we were kind of competing, I wasn't so sure, but in the last few months, I've gotten to know the guy, and he's actually amazing.
	Super excited to have him on the team, part of sort of, let's call him the Avengers, Bobby Kennedy Jr.
	Bobby, thank you so much for being here.
	It's awesome to have you.
	It's a pleasure to be with you and it's been really good getting to know you over the past Couple of months.
	really, really a bledger.
	Yeah, we got to, you know, I don't even talk about it that much.
	I'm not the guy to try to take credit for these, but you know, back-channeling, you know,
	getting us together, just understanding sort of what we are up against, you know,
	understanding, you know, what Kamala Harris will bring to government.
	I mean, you know, I think my father's gotten a taste of that
	over the last few years, the weaponization of government, the weaponization of what's supposed to be
	unbiased, impartial institutions.
	You know, against their political rivals.
	They're not supposed to have political rivals, but they do.
	They did it with my father, with impeachment, with fake Russia, with, you know,
	nonsense after nonsense, investigation after investigation.
	And now I read this week, they're going after you.
	They're going after you for, I guess, cutting the head off of a dead, rotting whale's head
	for scientific research in the early nineties.
	So you two are now getting a taste of the weaponization of government.
	Welcome to the team, Bobby.
	It's good to have you as part of the family.
	What the hell is going on here, man?
	This is insane.
	Yeah, I mean, I've collected specimens my entire life.
	And I have a very, very big collection.
	And my daughter, Kik, gave an interview in 2012, and she talked about something that happened when she was two or three years old, where we were at the beach and, you know, and found a baby.
	And, well, it was really a rotting carcass.
	She couldn't tell what species it was.
	And I took a specimen from that.
	And so now, and she gave that interview in 2012, talking about that experience.
	And now the NIMFS, National Marine Fishery Service, has notified me that they've opened up an investigation at the request for the Center for Biological Diversity.
	The Center for Biological Diversity is an NGO that essentially is a subsidiary of the Democratic Party.
	They're doing advertising almost every day for Kamala Harris.
	Before that, they did it for Joe Biden.
	You can go to their website and see pictures of leading Democrats.
	I've responded to this.
	I'm saying, first of all, the investigation is a joke.
	It's 25 years after the statute of limitations has, even if I did something wrong or, you know, crime, the federal statute of limitations is five years.
	This is 25 years after that expired.
	By the way, that doesn't stop him, Bobby.
	New York State, just so you're clear, New York State changed the statute of limitations to be able to go after my father.
	They changed it for one year.
	They filed against him, no one else, and then they change it back.
	It reverted back to normal.
	So there's nothing they won't do.
	And yeah, it's interesting you talk about these NGOs.
	It feels like all these NGOs are all shills of the Democrat Party.
	There's no conservative NGOs out there.
	I guess it's just a way to hide taxpayer funds from what's really going on through FOIA requests, because they basically money launder it through the NGOs, and all of a sudden it's now private money that they can't figure out what's actually being done.
	Well, you know, this is my response.
	I want to talk about that to Nymphs.
	I'm particularly interested in talking to you because one of the things that I've discovered about you over the past couple of months of getting to know you is what a devoted, dedicated environmentalist and conservationist you are.
	And I've watched what's happening now to the environmental movement, including many of my closest friends, people that I've traveled all over the world with, people that I've been in litigation with on hundreds of cases, and condemning me initially because I ran against Joe Biden, taking a full-page ad against me.
	But I see something now happening to the environmental movement where We're seeing these enormous whale kills now happening.
	109 whales have died in the last two years on the East Coast.
	Something like this has never happened before.
	And it's all in the vicinities of these new wind farms that are being put up.
	There's 21 permits.
	They're privatizing essentially 5,000 square miles of ocean bottom between the Gulf of Maine and North Carolina.
	They're digging 2,200 pounding.
	You know, the blades on these turbines are bigger than the Eiffel Tower.
	They're massive.
	I mean, I go spearfishing off of them up.
	And between Montauk and Block Island, there's a big farm there.
	And I know there's been some whales washed up there.
	The whales coincidentally only wash up In the vicinity of these things, right?
	There's a very clear cause and effect, but it feels like science isn't science anymore.
	Science is, you know, the methodology to virtue signal for whatever it may be, but not actually ever backed by science these days.
	Yeah, and, you know, but it's interesting this split in the environmental movement, because you have 17 environmental groups that have asked NIMS to do an investigation, and NIMS has refused.
	And NOAA, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which has jurisdiction over these whale kills, And the Marine Mammal Protection Act has also refused to do this investigation.
	Not only that, and I want you to understand this, the owners of these wind farms are almost all foreign governments or large, giant, multinational corporations based in other countries.
	They're not American.
	Yeah.
	But they're being given 30%.
	There's no utility in the world and no company in the world that would build an offshore wind farm.
	Offshore wind Makes no economic sense, particularly in the United States.
	The price of energy that they need to make is about 33 cents a kilowatt hour.
	The last time I looked, Onshore wind.
	My brother makes onshore wind.
	I was involved in that industry for many years.
	I'm a big proponent of onshore wind.
	And we have the best onshore wind in the world in this country.
	We have enough onshore wind to provide, according to Scientific American, 100% of the energy needs in this country.
	If you didn't, you wouldn't do it because it's intermittent.
	But we have huge abundance.
	North Dakota is the windiest place on earth at sea level.
	Montana, Me or Canada's building, you know, these platforms all over the place and you can make it very cheap for about 11 cents a kilowatt hour.
	The average price of energy in this country is between $0.11 and $0.15 a kilowatt hour.
	So it makes economic sense to build onshore wind.
	The offshore wind is just a boondoggle.
	And nobody would do it except with vast government subsidies.
	So a third of the cost of these wind farms, billions and billions of dollars, is being paid by tax breaks.
	That are given in the Inflation Reduction Act, which is Joe Biden's signature environmental legislation.
	That is the legislation by which he stakes his claim to be on this side of the environmental movement.
	And the Inflation Reduction Act is a giant, giant boondoggle to these kind of projects.
	The foreign companies and foreign governments cannot take advantage of U.S.
	tax breaks, so they go for financing to BlackRock, Goldman Sachs, Morgan, Citibank, and Wells Fargo.
	These are all democratically aligned entities.
	That, um, you know, DNC party contributors and huge influence in the DNC.
	And they are the ones who are making money and financing these things and they have a, they essentially have immunity.
	I mean, any kind of intervention.
	Well, by the way, one of the other things, I mean, two of the points on the wind farm that I noticed, you know, most of the components are made in China.
	They're not made in an environmentally friendly way.
	The eventual disposal given sort of the usable life of them, you know, it's sort of an environmental disaster in and of itself.
	But I notice when you talk about NOAA, NOAA, I think, is the same group that
	wanted to stop all recreational boaters from going over 10 miles per hour inside of the international limits
	because they're worried that boats may hit.
	I guess it was a pilot whale.
	I guess it's an endangered whale.
	But there have also been exactly zero, according to my research, actual pilot whales ever
	hit by boats.
	So you would think that the organization that is refusing to investigate 150-something dead whales
	within very near proximity to these towers that emit, obviously, massive amounts of electricity,
	The way they work that probably messes with the whales pretty significantly.
	They refuse to do that.
	But it doesn't stop them from literally trying to attempt to pass legislation that would stop every recreational boater in America.
	I think it was a boat over 30 feet from going more than 10 miles an hour.
	To stop them from hitting a whale that's never actually been documented to have ever been hit by a boat.
	That feels like a little bit of a disparate treatment.
	Do you know that legislation I'm talking about?
	Yeah, yeah.
	And, you know, the same agencies regulate oil development in the Gulf.
	Wind is so much worse for the environment, offshore wind.
	And by the way, you mentioned the blades being made in China and the other components being made in China.
	About, I guess about two months ago, one of those blades, these thousand foot blades, exploded off of Nantucket.
	And the shards made it unsafe to swim.
	You even go in the water, you can be cut to pieces by these things.
	They washed up on the beach.
	Nantucket had to close some of the beaches.
	Nantucket had to assign all these NDAs with these companies to get benefits that they were giving the local town.
	And they're angry now.
	The local town is angry because they can't do anything about it.
	And they, you know, it's done this tremendous damage to To their economy, so the whole thing is a mess.
	Nymphs even wrote a letter saying that if you talk, you know, I spent my 40 years representing commercial fishermen, the commercial fishermen are telling me universally up and down the East Coast and anywhere where these wind farms are that fish disappear.
	The The gospel was that the fish would actually be attracted to the wind farms.
	They aren't.
	They're disappearing.
	And NIMS has, because the wind farms off of New England and the Gulf of Maine are in the spawning habitat for the cod, NIMS has warned about the collapse of the cod fish tree as a direct result of these wind farms.
	They're privatizing the ocean bottom.
	The whales are dying.
	In the Gulf, the same regulatory agencies, if an oil rig, if a whale dies within 50 miles of an oil rig, they have to shut down the activities, the survey activities, the seismic activities, the drilling activities, they have to shut it down.
	This has always been the rule.
	They've waived that rule for the wind.
	And we're watching up and down the East Coast these massive whale gills Of large whales, of pilot whales, of humpback whales, and right whales.
	There's only 358 right whales.
	Maybe it was the right whale was what I was talking about with the NOAA and the boat speed thing.
	And the New York Times recently said in an article that said that That blame the whale kills on Amazon because Amazon has all these cargo ships.
	And, you know, we've talked to the people on the cargo ships and they've said, you know, we are really careful about the whales.
	Some of them are literally crying because they love the whales.
	And they're saying, you know, we watch the whales are smart.
	They know how to get out of the way of these giant ships.
	And they're being blamed for it because nobody wants to point to offshore wind because it's such a centerpiece for the Inflation Reduction Act and the environmental movement unfortunately has embraced it.
	Now it's only the big environmental groups, the Inside the Beltway, Sierra Club, my old group NRDC, all of these big groups that you would think the people who join those groups in the 60s, 70s and 80s were doing it to save the whales.
	And now everything's about carbon reduction.
	That's the only thing you have to do.
	And the amount of whales in the last two years, the NIMF's own data show that they're now allowing about over 100 seismic and survey ships on the East Coast.
	The prediction is 460 takes, okay, of right whales alone.
	All of these whales, the Seywhill, Minke Whale, Well, there's only 358 of them left in the world.
	but the date number predicted by NIMS documents for right whales is over 400.
	Well, there's only 358 of them left in the world.
	There's only 70 breeding females left in the world.
	And then we've extinguished this iconic species.
	And the environmental movement, the large environmental groups inside the Beltway
	are sitting around on the sidelines trying not to talk about this.
	Meanwhile, on the ground, the local environmental groups, there's 17 of them that have been asking since 2018, demanding that NEMS investigate this.
	They investigated me a week after I, you know, we joined the unity party with your dad.
	11 days after that, They just launched an investigation of me.
	And it only took them that short time.
	They investigated 30-year-old specimen collection from a dead whale.
	It's sort of amazing how that works.
	For six years, they've been stonewalling an investigation of all these deaths.
	They're wiping out thousands of porpoises that have died.
	And just in the last two years, over 109 large whale strandings have occurred.
	This is what we're seeing.
	And incidentally, the Inflation Reduction Act.
	Thank you.
	The other thing that I'm fighting on the Inflation Reduction Act is these giant carbon capture projects.
	And again, the same companies, you know, Goldman and BlackRock are building these pipelines across the Midwest that are tearing up thousands of acres of the prime agricultural land in this country to do something carbon capture that is very dangerous.
	And that dangers and dangerous local communities.
	And that is, of course, developed, you know, it's benefiting the oil companies, it's benefiting the methane companies, it's benefiting big ag.
	And it is destroying the small farmers in this country.
	Woods Hole now has a proposal because they've been given money under the Inflation Reduction Act to dump 100 metric tons of sodium hydrochloride, which is highly acidic, it destroys DNA, into the ocean off Nantucket.
	It is insane.
	Environmental movement is gone, but the big environmental groups are supporting this dumping of highly toxic material into the ocean under the pretense that it's going to help climate change somehow, which it is not, and it's going to reduce carbon, which it is not.
	And they're ignoring the protection of habitat, the protection of iconic species, The protection of the marine environment is all just being put on the waste bin.
	And, you know, the environmental movement is walking away from partisan politics.
	Yeah, I mean, listen, I love how, how much detail you get into it.
	I mean, your passion, it shows through, you see that.
	I mean, we then get into like, obviously, you know, the health side of things, what you've taken on major drug companies, you've taken on the major food processing companies.
	I mean, I love this whole notion of, you know, Maha, you know, make America healthy again.
	You know, talk about that and how the drug companies have been able to get away with this nonsense.
	I mean, I think this is so important for so many parents.
	I mean, you know, again, you're right.
	You know, people say, oh, I'm not an environmentalist because I'm a hunter, but I, you know,
	I'm a conservationist.
	I spent a lot of time out there.
	This is the legacy I want to preserve.
	I want my children to be able to do these things.
	You know, I want to protect these things, and so much of it has been bastardized.
	But when I look at the stuff that we feed our children, and I spend time traveling all over the world, and you know, whatever it may be, XYZ cookie here and XYZ cookie in Europe, they're not even the same ingredients.
	They taste basically the same, but they won't even let You feed the poison that we give to our kids each and every day anywhere else in the world.
	You talk about that because it's amazing.
	It's amazing to me that in the United States of America with all these groups and the FDA and HHS and all of these things, you know, that we've been allowed Frankly encouraged to poison our children for decades.
	And honestly, you're one of the few people that has raised it to a level, and I hope my father can do that with you in the next administration, to be able to understand just how bad this all is.
	Can you talk about that and what it means to make America healthy again?
	How do we take this all on?
	Again, I love your depth.
	Because it's not like you're talking about it like a soundbite.
	Like, I'm at the level in talking to you for the last few months, hey, I can hit the soundbites, but like, you understand what's going on to a level that I think's irrefutable.
	And if other people saw that level of detail, I think we could put an end to this nonsense once and for all.
	Yeah, I mean, and the Maha movement is gathering steam with Democrats, Republicans, Independents all over this country.
	And we are, I mean, the baseline is, We're now the sickest country in the world.
	When my uncle was president, 6% of Americans had chronic disease.
	Today, the last time NIH actually did a study, they've now stopped publishing these data.
	The last time they did a study, we were at 54 percent. This was in 2006. 54 percent of kids
	now have chronic disease, and it's probably up to around 60 percent today.
	So we've gone from 6% to 60%.
	And the cost of treating chronic disease when my uncle was president, I was a 10-year-old boy, was zero.
	We spent, the US government spent Zero.
	And our country spent zero treating chronic disease effectively.
	There weren't even any drugs at that point to treat it.
	But it wasn't an issue for our country.
	Today, we spend $4.3 trillion.
	It is bankrupting our country.
	77% of American kids are ineligible for military service.
	And so it's destroying our national security.
	We have categories we've gone from 3.4% of Americans being obese to now about 70%.
	You look at pictures of Woodstock, you cannot find somebody who's obese.
	You look at old pictures of people on the beach in the 60s, you can't find people who are obese.
	It was an oddity.
	People, you know, 80 years ago, if you were obese, you were put in the circus.
	And today, 74% of Americans are obese or overweight.
	And then we have these other giant categories of chronic diseases and neurological diseases that I never saw as a kid.
	I had 11 siblings, about 71 cousins, We didn't see ADD, ADHD, speech delay, language delay, sleeping disorders, tics, Tourette syndrome, narcolepsy, ASD, autism.
	These were things that we didn't even know about.
	All of these new autoimmune disease.
	Autism, by the way, has gone from one in about, depending on what study, the old studies of it were so rare because nobody studied it.
	From one in 1,500 people to one in 10,000 in my generation.
	Today is diagnosed with autism.
	Yeah.
	And by the way, like I noticed, you know, I know we've had this conversation before, but if you look at certain communities that don't expose themselves to the garbage and don't expose themselves to, you know, the excessive vaccination, and that doesn't mean that some aren't great, but they, you know, you look at the Amish communities.
	Yeah.
	The autism numbers there are reminiscent of America 80 years ago, if there's any whatsoever, and yet that doesn't resonate elsewhere.
	I mean, that seems to be like the sort of, you know, let's call it, you know, the staple, the benchmark to measure everyone else against.
	You know, we're definitely doing a lot of this to ourselves.
	It's not just magically happening.
	Yeah, I mean, there's a journalist who did a study on Lancaster, Pennsylvania and the Amish community there.
	And it's not a peer-reviewed study, but he did a survey of the health clinics there, of all the health clinics that treat the Amish.
	And they were able to, there should be, if it followed national trends, there should be about 2,200 kids with autism in the Amish communities.
	It's one in every 34 kids.
	We've gone from one in 10,000 to one in every 34 kids according to CDC.
	One in 22 kids in California.
	He went and did a study in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
	And they were able to find only three kids in the Amish community with autism.
	And all three of them were people who were children who had been adopted by the Amish after receiving their vaccines.
	This doesn't mean vaccines is the only Our kids today are swimming around a toxic soup, coming mainly from their foods that operate along the same biological pathways.
	But some of it's coming from pharmaceutical drugs.
	Some of it's coming from, most of it's coming from our food.
	And we're poisoning our kids, as you pointed out.
	But anyway, he was only able to find three and none of them among Amish who were not adopted.
	Yeah.
	So that's, you know, it's not again, it's not a peer-reviewed study, but it is something that many, many people have observed in these populations that do not expose themselves to pharmaceutical drugs, to pharmaceutical interventions, and To poison food.
	You mentioned Europe.
	In Europe today, there's almost a thousand chemicals that we permit in our food here in the United States that are banned in Europe.
	You couldn't sell food like that in Europe.
	And we subsidize it.
	We subsidize it with the Farm Bill.
	billions, tens of billions of dollars a year to grow subsidized corn, GMO corn,
	which is heavily saturated with glyphosate, soy and wheat.
	And that is the feedstock now for processed foods because it is artificially cheap.
	Food then ends up being paid for again by our food stamp program.
	About 70% of the foods that are sold by the food stamp program are processed food.
	10% of the food, the food stamp program goes to buy sugar drinks, which is just pure poison.
	Then we pay for it again through the school lunch program where half to 70% of that is processed food.
	We're poisoning our kids.
	We pay for it again through agricultural damage.
	This kind of agriculture depletes the soils, kills the microbiomes.
	The soils can't absorb water.
	You get flooding now in the Midwest when there's a couple of inches of rain.
	It seems like the only people saving money are big food, but the American taxpayer then gets stuck with, you know, clinical health issues, excessive flood damage because, again, you've eroded the soils.
	I imagine, you know, the stuff that holds all that stuff together.
	I mean, you know, that seems like a big problem.
	We're not actually saving money.
	Only the big corporate conglomerates are saving a little bit of money while poisoning our children and sending that expense to someone else, namely the American taxpayer.
	Yeah, and then you also get the dead zone in the Gulf and dead zones all over the world that are directly tied to processed foods and these bad agricultural processes and pesticide and chemical farming.
	And then we pay for it with the healthcare cost, which is now the biggest thing on our budget and the fastest growing thing on our budget.
	As I said, the total cost is about 4.3 trillion a year.
	You have this raft, as I said, of neurological disease, but also an explosion suddenly.
	In the early 80s, autoimmune diseases like lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile diabetes.
	When I was a kid, the average pediatrician We've seen one case of juvenile diabetes in his lifetime, over a 40 or 50 year career.
	Today, one out of every three children who walk through his office door is diabetic or pre-diabetic.
	And the cost of treating diabetes and other mitochondrial disorders is now larger than our military budget.
	This is like, this is the biggest threat to our country.
	And people are beginning to notice it.
	Doctors were scared to talk about it.
	Public officials ignored it.
	And now people are finally starting to talk about it and recognize that this is the number one issue.
	If we want to have a resilient nation, if we want to have a prosperous nation, if we want to have a happy nation, we got to begin by fixing the food system and fixing the pharma system and getting the corruption out of USDA, out of NIH, out of CDC and FDA.
	and restoring the health, actually getting to focus on public health rather than the profit aspirations and the mercantile ambitions of the pharmaceutical companies and big ag and the big processed food companies.
	Yeah, I mean, I think without question.
	I mean, obviously that's somewhere I'd love to see you handle that because, you know, you need someone who can break through the corruption, who can break through that noise, who actually understands the facts.
	But in a lot of those positions who also has the platform, I think, which you've done an incredible job of creating, of having Americans now buy into this, actually understand what's going on.
	I think they've been kept in the dark for so long.
	I know you recently posted about, really, the need to spotlight even the dangers of things like seed oils.
	You know, we've discussed sort of the broader state of the farming sector and especially the struggles of small and mid-sized farms.
	I mean, they're getting wiped out so that big agriculture can, you know, do their thing and big agriculture is going to do what big corporate does and, you know, I mean, Thomas Jefferson said that American democracy is rooted in tens of thousands of independent freeholds owned by family farmers, each with a stake in our system of government, each with a stake in our communities.
	Thomas Jefferson said that American democracy is rooted in tens of thousands
	of independent freeholds owned by family farmers, each with a stake in our system
	of government, each with a stake in our communities. And you know, he was
	contrasting this with the European model, which is essentially a feudal
	model, where the agricultural lands were all owned by large oligarchs.
	And we're moving back toward that system now in our country.
	And let me give you an example, Don.
	In the 1990s, I began suing These big industrial hog operations, and this is a model of agriculture that was started in North Carolina.
	It was actually introduced by chicken industry first.
	We had about 2 million, 2.2 million chicken farmers in this country, independent chicken farmers, and there were three men, Bo Pilgrim of Texas, Frank Perdue, and John Tyson.
	Who revolutionized that industry, and they said they figured out a way to take chickens off the farm, raise them in warehouses, put a million birds in a single warehouse, keep them in battery cages, which are these tiny little cages where the chicken literally can't stand up.
	It can't turn around, and they dose them with antibiotic and hormones that cause them to literally lay their guts out over a short, miserable life.
	And so it's bad food, and it's bad for the animals.
	It's a kind of cruelty on an industrial scale that ultimately is gonna infiltrate the morality of our whole nation if we treat sentient beings with this kind of cruelty.
	There has to be a spillover to the morality of our country.
	Those three individuals went out of business virtually all the 2.2 million independent chicken farmers in our country and they made themselves billionaires.
	There was a guy in the early 1980s called Wendell Murphy who was a state legislator from North Carolina and he looked at what those three men had done with chickens and he said, I can do the same thing with hogs.
	He used his position on the Agricultural Committee in North Carolina to pass 28 laws that made it almost impossible to sue an industrial agricultural outfit and to give all kinds of subsidies for that activity.
	Then he left the legislature.
	He created a building called a Murphy 1100, which can shoehorn 1100 hogs again into these tiny little cages And they never see the light of day.
	They poop through slats in the floor, which manure is collected and discharged, usually into the environment illegally.
	But he had changed the law so nobody could be prosecuted for it.
	And a hog produces 10 times the fecal material by weight as a human being.
	So one of these facilities with 10,000 hogs would produce the same amount of fecal material as a city of 100,000 people.
	And a city of 100,000 people would have to invest a lot in the sewage treatment system.
	But the hog farms, it was waived.
	And so they just started dumping this in the environment.
	Smithfield Foods has a farm, a factory in Utah.
	Now owned by China, if I'm correct, right?
	That's the punchline.
	So what they did, they have one farm in China of a million hogs.
	It produces more waste every day And all the human beings in New York City combined, and they just dump it into the environment.
	And they poisoned all of these rivers in North Carolina that were pristine.
	They poisoned the aquifers.
	They destroyed the quality of life in rural areas.
	They were mainly putting them in black communities so nobody would notice.
	And they went out of business, 28,000 independent hog farmers in North Carolina.
	They dropped the price.
	They went into business with Smithfields, Wendell Murphy did.
	He was later swallowed by Smithfield.
	Smithfield built a factory, a slaughterhouse in North Carolina that slaughtered 30,000 animals a year and then dropped the price of hogs from 60 cents a pound to two cents a pound.
	And it cost a hog farmer 37 cents a pound to raise that animal to kill weight.
	Wiped out about every single hog farmer in the state except those that either were owned and operated by Smithfield Or that signed a contract to them.
	And those contracts, the farmer is no longer a farmer.
	He's an indentured servant on his own land.
	Smithfield can take that contract away from him at any point and put him out of business.
	So they do what they're told.
	And Smithfield now controls the landscape.
	Because they dropped the price of hogs so much, they had all other states like Iowa, big hog producers, Had to adopt the same methodology or die, and they reluctantly did so.
	And today Smithfield owns about 35% of hog production in the country, and then they sold themselves to China.
	So it's a colonial model.
	It was a colonial model from the outset when the corporations owned it, but now it really is a colonial model.
	You have a foreign country that is hostile in many ways to the United States.
	That is owning our landscapes and our food production.
	And anybody who doesn't see the danger of that is not a sentient person.
	Yeah, I mean, there seems to be good pushback on at least on China and the ag stuff, but we actually have to get something done because like, you know, that that's not just jobs and environment.
	That's that's like national security to me.
	But what are some of the specific examples, you know, so people can understand, you know, just the magnitude of the the differences, you know, between, you know, food that's processed here in the United States and say food in Europe.
	What should we be looking for?
	What should mothers or whoever's shopping for the family be looking for, you know, in nutritional facts when they're at the grocery store?
	Because I think, you know, that's one way to start.
	You know, I will say you can vote with your wallet.
	You know, it's not always easy, right?
	Because obviously the people who are doing it right, there's probably going to be a cost associated with that.
	But, you know, I think it's the kind of place that if you have some excess income to spend, you know, that's probably a great place to start.
	Yeah.
	And, you know, you were mentioning before that the food in Europe It's different than the food we have here.
	Somebody told me the other day, and I haven't verified this, that there are 16 ingredients in a McDonald's French fry in this country.
	A McDonald's French fry in Indonesia has three.
	Yeah.
	Well, but you know, I said, if I go to Europe, I can eat like, you know, I can do like carbapalooza and I feel fine.
	You know, I feel great.
	I have a carb fest here and like, I feel like crap for two days.
	You know, it literally the same foods, uh, you know, no difference in, you know, quality other than, you know, that, that I can perceive or taste.
	But you know, in Europe, I feel like I can eat stuff that would make me as, especially as I get older.
	And I started noticing these things a little bit more, uh, feel very differently.
	Yeah, I have two kids who've lived in Italy, and one of my sons had eczema from when he was little, you know, and I'm sure I know where that came from, but he had bad eczema, and when he ate any kind of pasta in this country, he would get these terrible, terrible outbreaks, you know, really agonizing.
	And he moved to Italy and he lived off of pasta for a year and a half and he'd never get a case of it.
	And then as soon as he comes back here and he eats the pasta in this country, he gets eczema again.
	And you know, they don't have the glyphosate like we do that is sprayed on the wheat at harvest time.
	So it's going right into the food.
	And like I said, there's a thousand ingredients that are now used in our country that are banned in Europe.
	The food in this country is just poison.
	And you asked me what I would recommend to people.
	I'm not a doctor or a nutritionist, but somebody told me years ago, a rule of thumb that I've lived with for many years, which is never eat packaged food.
	That's the easiest thing to do.
	If it comes in a package, don't eat it.
	But you can look at the ingredients.
	I look at the ingredients now.
	Almost everything that we eat contains really bad poison.
	High fructose corn syrup, all kinds of dyes, red dye, yellow dye, blue dye, they're all poison.
	Red dye is directly associated with ADHD.
	There are study after study that shows if you take kids off of red dye, the ADHD diminishes significantly and many kids disappears.
	The, you know, and we also know diabetes can be treated with food.
	Diabetes is a treatable condition and you put somebody on an all meat diet and 60% of the diabetes case go away.
	And other, the other diabetes case that don't go away completely are, are diminished dramatically.
	So, um, You know, if you're eating sugar, if you're eating high fructose corn syrup, I'll give you an example about how bad this is.
	We're now, the medical system in this country, which never deals with food.
	Doctors in medical school are discouraged from studying nutrition.
	And the people who are making the food don't study the health effects.
	The people who are studying health effects don't study the food.
	And the, but we now have this dramatic increase in diabetes and the recommendation of the AMA and the CDC is to begin treating children who are eight, nine, 10 years old with Ozempic.
	Ozempic has all kinds of catastrophic side effects.
	It costs $1,500 a month.
	I mean, I guess there's just much more money in sickness and there's no money in health.
	It's sort of like, there's a lot of money in war, but there's no money in peace.
	We'll get to that in a minute.
	But I mean, is it that simple?
	Yeah, I mean, the biggest, the most valuable asset today in the United States of America The insurance industry, the pharmaceutical industry, is a sick child.
	And for hospitals and our whole medical system.
	So they're not treating the cause of the illness, but they're prescribing these pharmaceutical interventions.
	And let me give you just, you know, finish this story.
	Ozempic is owned by the ninth biggest company in the world, Novo Nordisk.
	It's the number one biggest company in Europe.
	If you look at all of its own securities data, they say that 90% of the value of this drug, which is their biggest asset, is from sales in the United States.
	They're not selling it in Europe.
	They sell it, but the medical system doesn't recommend it there.
	In Denmark, Eurozepic, where Novo Nordisk is headquartered, The medical system does not recommend it as a primary intervention.
	They recommend changes in food, changes in diet, and changes in an accessory lifestyle.
	And that's what we should be doing here.
	So they're making this, they're selling it in the United States.
	Now, Novo Nordisk is sponsoring a bill that is now before Congress and the Senate.
	It's going to pass both houses.
	Why?
	Because it's one of the few pieces of bipartisan legislation.
	Why is that?
	Because Novo Nordisk has paid off this legislation.
	It's contributing to them, and they're going to vote for this.
	This bill will make Medicare and Medicaid pay for anybody who's obese, anybody who's qualified as obese, to get a lifetime Ozempic.
	That's 74% of our population.
	The cost of this bill will be three trillion dollars a year.
	For a tiny, tiny fraction of that, we could buy organic food for every man, woman, and child in this country, and cure them from diabetes, but that's not the solution.
	Yeah, well listen, it's much easier to take a shot once a week, or whatever it is, than it is to actually change your habits, and you know, wow, three trillion dollars with a T. Three trillion, if everybody takes advantage of it, that will be the cause, you know?
	What we're doing is literally insane.
	All right, so, you know, clearly there's a lot more money in sickness than in health.
	You know, and money seems to be driving all of these things.
	I mentioned earlier, you know, there's a lot more money in war than in peace, which also seems to be driving a lot of our decision-making process.
	So if we're shifting gears a little bit and we look abroad, you and I this week, Co-authored a piece in The Hill about the Harris-Biden administration being really eager to allow Ukraine to use American and NATO provided long range precision weapons against targets
	Deep inside of Russia.
	You know, what do you want Americans to understand, to intrinsically know about what this means and how close we are to World War III?
	Because, I mean, you know, the saying goes, don't poke the bear, but man, this seems like we're really poking the bear here.
	Yeah, and you know, the problem is we have a national security establishment that is almost childlike, and they're not listening to Russia.
	They're not listening to what Putin, and you know, my uncle, John Kennedy, was able to avoid a nuclear, he was surrounded by people in his intelligence apparatus, in his military, who wanted a war with the Soviet Union.
	And today there are the same people, we call them neocons, Yeah. Whose primary ambition is war with Russia. They want
	to fragment Russia and, you know, and then take over the, you know, Russia's the greatest
	natural resource of any nation in the Ukraine has... Well, they want to own the farmland.
	It's like a Black Rock commercial, right?
	It's like, we'll get rid of them, we'll kill all the peasants, and then we'll go take it over for pennies on the dollar and control the world food supply.
	It's like a James Bond movie, but like, there's no other plausible explanation for it.
	So now we're doing something really insane, which is we are signing off on the use of missiles Long-range and intermediate missiles to hit targets deep inside of Russia.
	Those missiles rely on U.S.
	technology, on satellite technology, to find their targets.
	And Putin has said publicly that if we do that, if there's a single missile shot over there, we will be at war with Russia.
	The United States and NATO will be at war with Russia.
	Sergey Rybakov, who is the Deputy Foreign Minister, announced this week that Russia,
	which has this long-standing policy to not use nuclear weapons, not be the first user
	of nuclear weapons, In other words, until they were used against them, they would not use them.
	We don't have that policy.
	The Russians have that policy.
	Russia changed that policy this week to allow first use of nuclear weapons.
	I don't think that Russia will use them.
	We should be concerned about that.
	Russia has 1,200 more nuclear warheads than we do.
	It's the biggest nuclear power on Earth.
	It has better weapons than we do.
	It has an electronic warfare capacity that is a generation ahead of ours, and they've demonstrated that in Ukraine.
	And we now have told the Russians, if we ever had a war with the Russians, because we've shown this extraordinary stupidity and recklessness and profligacy of giving the Ukrainians, which is a second-rate, third-rate army, The use of our best weapons, the attack of missiles, etc., the glide missiles, we've begun using those there.
	And the Russians now have de-encrypted all of them.
	So they know now how to counter them.
	The Russians say, it takes us about six weeks to understand before we capture some of these missiles, we dismantle them, we figure out strategies for dealing with them.
	Our national defense was based upon the fact that we could unveil all of these new weapons and for six weeks we have domination of the battlefield.
	That no longer exists.
	We've given that advantage away in Ukraine.
	The Ukraine war, as you know, we've been lied to again and again about that war.
	We've been told, Kamala Harris said it this week, that this is part of Vladimir Putin's ambition to be like Hitler and walk across Europe There is nothing in reality to that comic book supervillain story that they give us.
	Nothing.
	And you know that Russians have been clear that this is not a territorial grab.
	This is about a security issue.
	The Russians have been invaded three times through Ukraine.
	We made a solemn promise to the Russians in 1992.
	After they allowed us, Gorbachev allowed us.
	Reunite East and West Germany under NATO army, an adversarial army.
	The Russians marched 450,000 troops out of Ukraine and we marched 450,000 NATO troops into their barracks and took over.
	Who would do that?
	Gorbachev did that because he was interested in humanity.
	He wanted to end the Cold War and he sacrificed himself and his career and his reputation in Russia to do that for the world.
	He said the one thing that he wanted, he told John Major of Britain, George Bush in the United States, the one thing I want is assurance from you that you will never move NATO to the east.
	And James Baker, the Secretary of State famously told him at that point, we will not move NATO one inch to the east.
	Well, the neocons then came to power in 1996 during the Clinton administration.
	And they began this process of moving NATO 1,000 miles to the east, 14 nations.
	And you had mentioned before about war making money for people.
	And let me explain to you one of the reasons we did this.
	When a new nation signs up for NATO, If the contract requires it to adopt its weapons purchases to NATO specifications, so they have to conform them to NATO specifications.
	Well, that means, and NATO specifications are virtually all weapons from Raytheon, from General Dynamics, from Boeing, from Lockheed, from the big US weapons manufacturers.
	So every time there's a new country added to NATO, They get a multi-billion dollar trap market.
	And so there's this drive that is financed by those companies that are all owned by BlackRock, which is one of the big, you know, donors of the Democratic Party, to keep moving NATO to the east.
	And they said from the beginning, we're going to move it into Ukraine.
	Well, guess what?
	Kamala Harris goes over to Germany.
	In February of 2019 and said, we're going to move NATO into Ukraine.
	The Russians protested every time we move it into a new country.
	The Russians protest and they said, we don't like this.
	This is terrible.
	Don't do this.
	You're going to make us respond militarily.
	They have said from the beginning that NATO is their red line, that Ukraine is their red line.
	If we move into Ukraine, the Russians share a 2200 mile border with Ukraine.
	If we put missile systems in Ukraine, the Aegis missile system, which is Lockheed's Tomahawk missiles, which can be nuclear tipped.
	We've already put them in Romania.
	We put them in Poland.
	Put them in Ukraine.
	They're three and a half minutes from the Kremlin.
	We could decapitate the entire Russian leadership in three and a half minutes with no warning.
	And this is dangerous for the whole world.
	It destabilized the world because it puts everybody on a hair trigger.
	And the Russians said, do not do this to us.
	Not only did we do that, but at the same time, we walked away from two intermediate nuclear weapons missile treaties with the Russians.
	We had signed an agreement that said, and Reagan did this, we will not put long-range missiles in Europe because we know that destabilizes.
	And by the way, when Russians tried to put long-range missiles in Cuba, when my uncle was president, We were going to go to war.
	Yeah, well, by the way, we gave them every excuse.
	I talk about it on the show all the time.
	They're like, oh, you're being apologist for Putin.
	I'm like, I'm not saying he's a good guy, but like, this has been a longstanding 60 year sort of, that was the buffer zone.
	You know, we gave them every excuse.
	Maybe he was going to invade every anyway, but like we took a 60 year policy.
	We changed that.
	We pulled out of the other arms trade.
	He's like, if I, you know, But what more does he need to do that?
	I mean, and that's insane.
	I mean, yeah, your uncle and obviously, you know, your father.
	I mean, maybe talk about that for a second.
	I know you have a little bit of an out.
	We're running around the whole country doing all of this.
	But, you know, talk about that mission legacy of your father and your uncle.
	I mean, Well, the difference you see today, you know, I mean, they were legends of the Democrat Party, and yet I sort of feel like, you know, if they looked at today's Democrat Party, they'd be ashamed of what's going on.
	I mean, your uncle, your father, they promoted a real sense of pride and accomplishment in America, but Today's Democrat Party would rather apologize for America.
	They would rather bend a knee to despots all over the world.
	Why is that?
	And how did it relate, perhaps, to your decision to endorse my father?
	Again, I don't think a lot of people ever had that on their bingo card if you were looking at sort of American history.
	And yet, you know, I mean, the decision is obviously, I think, you know, as clear as day.
	And I think it's resonating with so many people.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, my uncle, Was asked at one point by one of his best friends, Ben Bradley, who was the editor of the Washington Post, what do you want on your gravestone as your epithet?
	And my uncle, without skipping a beat, said he kept the peace.
	My uncle was a warrior himself.
	He was the only president who won the Purple Heart.
	He was a war hero during World War II.
	His brother died in World War II.
	His brother-in-law died during World War II.
	And he understood how terrible war was and he didn't want it.
	And he said the primary job of the President of the United States is to keep the country out of war.
	And he was able to not, during his administration, despite tremendous pressure to send US troops into Laos in 61, to send them into Berlin in 62, send them into Cuba in 61 and 63.
	He resisted.
	He resisted sending combat troops to Vietnam.
	He ended up sending 16,000 advisors who weren't allowed to participate in combat.
	He learned in October 22, 1963, Don, he heard that a Green Beret had died in Vietnam.
	Despite this order, the rules of engagement that he had set down, that they couldn't participate in combat, they were doing it anyway.
	And he asked his aide, Walt Rostow, how many Americans have died?
	He asked him for a casualty list.
	And Walt Rostow came back later that day.
	76 Americans had died.
	And my uncle said, that's too many.
	We're bringing them all home.
	And that afternoon, he signed National Security Order 263, ordering all military personnel, U.S.
	military personnel, out of Vietnam by 1965, with the first thousand coming home in December of 63.
	So a month and a half later.
	Yeah.
	30 days after that, he was assassinated.
	And a week after that, Lyndon Johnson revoked that order and ended up sending 265,000 American troops to Vietnam.
	They made it our war.
	And then my father ran against that war in 68 and was killed in the process.
	Nixon becomes president, sends 560,000 troops over.
	56,000 Americans never come home, including my cousin, George Skakel, who died in the Tet Offensive.
	But ever since then, the Democrats have been the party of peace, and the Republicans were the party of war.
	And now everything's reversed.
	The Republicans are now the party of peace.
	The Democrats are the party of war.
	And we're doing things in Europe that are insane.
	My uncle always said, if you want to keep the country out of war, You've got to understand your adversary, and the CIA's portrayal of Khrushchev and the Kremlin as a monolith of warmongers who wanted to take over the world.
	My uncle just said that couldn't be true.
	It has to be like Boston, where they're all at each other's throats, where people have their own agendas.
	It's never monolithic.
	And during the Berlin crisis, the Checkpoint Charlie crisis, he began communicating directly with Khrushchev.
	And he installed a hotline.
	Khrushchev said to him, I'm in the same position you are.
	I have my back to the wall.
	I'm surrounded by people who want a war.
	Rousseff also had his own experience with war.
	He was going to be purged by Stalin, and he had gone to Stalingrad, which was the worst battle in World War II.
	And he had seen the worst of war.
	People eating each other, cannibalism, eating their pets, eating their horses, starving to death.
	And he knew how terrible war was, and he and my uncle found common cause, and they began communicating to each other.
	There was actually a A KGB agent and a GRU agent who came to our house all the time.
	His name was Georgi Polchkov.
	And my parents loved him.
	He was very charming.
	He was like a James Bond of Russia.
	And he would do rope climbing contests with my dad.
	We all loved him.
	We kids loved him because we knew he was a spy.
	And the James Bond films were coming out.
	It was cool to know a KGB spy.
	And he would do the Russian, you know, the Cossack dancing.
	He would get on his haunches.
	And he was, you know, he was always laughing and very charming.
	My parents trusted him.
	The State Department hated that there was a Soviet spy in our house.
	My parents got to love him and to really trust him.
	My uncle, John Kennedy, began exchanging.
	He didn't want to go through his State Department because he didn't trust him.
	He didn't want to go through the CIA.
	And he began exchanging these very personal private letters with Khrushchev.
	And Geordi Bolshoi would fold them into a New York Times and hide them and then pass the New York Times to my dad, who would give them to, or to Pierre Salinger, who would give them to my uncle.
	And it is extraordinary correspondence where they talked about their children and their grandchildren and about how these were kids who, they did not have the right.
	It would be a failure, their failure, if they took away the capacity of children to write poems, to participate in politics themselves, to vote, to play sports.
	And, you know, these kids had nothing to do with international conflicts.
	Rushev and my uncle let them down by starting a nuclear war that would incinerate 130 million Russians and 30 million Americans in the first week.
	Now we're facing the same thing again.
	My uncle was reaching out.
	He put a hotline in his house at the Cape.
	I think that's so important.
	You know, I look at the similarities, you know, even that, right?
	When my, you know, my father got criticized for, you know, meeting with, you know, Kim Jong Il.
	He meets with Kim Jong Un over in Korea.
	Well, everyone says he's doing it wrong, but I was like, no one else had a conversation with the guy.
	Like, isn't it important to have that communication?
	You know, I guess it was, what was it?
	You know, in Helsinki, he meets with Putin, and he doesn't get up on a world stage and say, this guy's a piece of garbage, he's a piece of crap, the media... Because he's like, you know, maybe it gets me some points with our media that otherwise hates me and whatever, but...
	I lose that line of communication.
	So if and when things go really wrong, I can't call that guy.
	I don't have to think he's a great guy.
	I don't have to think he's a nice guy.
	But if I don't crap on him on that world stage, I still have the ability to make that call when it goes down.
	We've totally eliminated that with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, because they'll say whatever they need to say to the media.
	Look how tough they are.
	They're not tough.
	They're stupid.
	There's a difference.
	There's a difference, and again, I talk about it quite often on the shows.
	I say, hey, I guess we're one of the more politically persecuted families in American history other than yourselves, and it seems Really, all for the same reason.
	We're not for the never-ending wars.
	We're not just gonna do what the military-industrial complex says so some general can get a board seat at Raytheon and, you know, that's his retirement package.
	You know, so the lobbyists continue to get funded while sending, you know, not their kids, but our kids, you know, off to wars that we can't articulate what victory even looks like anymore.
	It's a sad state of affairs that it seems to be history repeating itself.
	And now that there's been two attempts on my father's life in the last two months, man, those similarities really resonate.
	Yeah, I mean, I love what you're saying, and I think that's right.
	It's almost childlike, the way that they're behaving in Washington.
	And, you know, I saw Kamala Harris give this extraordinary speech at the Democratic convention that was just, it was just neocon garbage.
	It was all about, you know, this belligerence of, you know, world domination.
	And then she's proceeded directly on the shows, this inversion that's taken place, this realignment between Democrats and Republicans.
	She's proceeded in that.
	By a CIA director.
	You can't make it up.
	It's comical if our children's lives weren't on the line.
	I mean, you know, I watched her last week.
	She was giddy about the Dick Cheney endorsement.
	I mean, think about that.
	The Democrat Party, the leader of the Democrat Party is really excited that Dick Cheney, the person that they call the greatest warmonger of the last 30 years, is for her.
	What, what bizarro world are we living in?
	I mean, you know, I said this was the greatest trade in the history of the world.
	They take Dick Cheney.
	We take you and Tulsi.
	Like, that's the greatest trade in the history of, you know, modern politics.
	I'll take that any day.
	And yet, you know, it's totally lost on them.
	The media is now gloating over Dick Cheney.
	They're calling him, you know, this great statesman. It's amazing. It's as though they've just
	forgotten everything and I guess they can conveniently do that because they're still in the ear
	of the American people trying to convince them that they're right because they'll say
	anything at this point. But it's truly shocking.
	In 2004, it was practically a necessity if you called yourself a Democrat to believe
	that Dick Cheney was a war criminal. Dick Cheney was like Darth Vader.
	He gave us the Patriot Act.
	He was the head of the neocons.
	He gave us the torture.
	You know, Americans for the first time in our history began openly torturing people.
	Something that Washington and Lincoln and all these presidents have warned against.
	We're not, that's not who we are as a country.
	He, he gave us the surveillance state, you know, the allowing unleashing the CIA to spy on the American people with the, With the Patriot Act, he gave us extraordinary renditions.
	And then the Iraq War, which was the biggest foreign policy cataclysm in American history.
	And Dick Cheney and John Bolton, 225 other neocons, endorsed Kamala Harris.
	They're not endorsing Kamala Harris because they've changed.
	They still think the Patriot Act is the right way to go.
	They still think the war in Iraq was a great triumph because we got rid of Saddam Hussein and destroyed this country that was the bulwark against Iran.
	Well, we destabilized the entire Middle East.
	I mean, I'd say there's a pretty credible argument that there are a lot of people in that region Uh, dead because of that.
	Uh, you know, I'm not saying Saddam was a good guy by any means.
	Uh, but, you know, just understanding geopolitics and understanding the way things have transpired there.
	I don't think it's actually worked out for anyone over there.
	I don't know that they're at a better place.
	No, it, it, it, it's not just the Mideast.
	We killed more Iraqis, many more Iraqis than Saddam Hussein.
	We probably killed a million Iraqis.
	Iraq today is just a warring cauldron between Shia and Sunni death squads.
	Iraq is now a proxy of Iran.
	That's the bigger problem.
	It became Iran and now they have all those resources.
	We created ISIS.
	We drove 4 million refugees into Europe, destabilized every democracy in Europe.
	We ended up with Brexit as a direct result of the Iraq and Syrian invasions,
	you know, Britain lost the European community.
	And now you're seeing the rise of totalitarianism and censorship all over Europe.
	And it's a direct result of the Iraq war.
	And these guys still think it was a good idea.
	Dick Cheney is still- I didn't even actually think of that, but you're right.
	I mean, the, the, the, I mean, Europe in many, I mean, many people would say that, you know, Europe's basically over because of the crazy influx of mass, you know, mass migration.
	They're unvetted people, unwilling to culturally even adapt a little bit.
	Uh, and you're right.
	I mean, that's all, that all started there.
	It's all from the right war.
	And, and, uh, and now, you know, so you asked, did Dick Cheney change?
	No, he's not changed.
	So why is he endorsing Kamala Harris?
	It's because the Democratic Party has changed.
	The Democratic Party has lost touch with its values.
	It's become the party of the neocons.
	It's become the party of Wall Street, Black Rock, State Street, Vanguard.
	And the Republican Party is now the party of the poor.
	You know, when I was a kid, the Democratic Party was the party of the cops, the firefighters, the labor unions.
	You had Sean O'Brien, the head of the Teamsters Union, talking at the RNC convention and getting a great reception.
	I was with J.D.
	Vance the other day.
	And he was talking about the importance of collective bargaining.
	This is not, you know, there's been a complete aversion.
	And I'll say this, in 2020, about half the country Voted for Donald Trump, about half voted for Joe Biden, but the half that supported Donald Trump represented only 30% of the wealth in this country.
	The half that voted for Joe Biden represented 70% of the wealth.
	The Democratic Party has become the party of the billionaires, the party of the rich, and Donald Trump chased the billionaires out of the Republican Party.
	The Republican Party has now become the party of working class, working poor, Regular Americans, cops, firefighters, there's been a total inversion.
	And you know, it's now the party of environmentalism.
	And the Democratic Party has become the party of this uni, you know, this, this focus, this narrow focus on carbon renewal.
	That's the only environmental issue.
	And as it turns out, it is an issue that immensely benefits The elements of totalitarianism who want to clamp down patrols and the super rich billionaires who want to, like Bill Gates and BlackRock and Goldman Sachs, they want to build these big geoengineering projects that make no economic sense and are absolutely destroying the environment.
	Crazy.
	Well, Bobby, I know you have a hard out.
	We've probably went 15 minutes over that, but, you know, appreciate everything that you're doing.
	It's been awesome to talk to you, to learn from this.
	It's been incredible for me as an American to watch.
	different perspectives really finally come together to understand what we're up against,
	to really fight for all of the things that we believe in fundamentally as Americans, even
	if we disagree on certain issues across that spectrum. I think it's great. I think it's
	long overdue and well needed. And more importantly, I love that you're not just sort of doing
	it in name and endorsement only.
	I see you out there each and every day talking to real Americans.
	It's making a huge difference.
	I think it's going to be an incredible thing for our country.
	I look forward to so much more of that.
	12 more pages of questions.
	We're going to have to do this again.
	I know we're going to be on the road together.
	Uh, you know, a couple of times and, uh, once we get through November 5th, we'll have to do some fun stuff in the outdoors as well.
	Because whether it was Tucker or me, you know, a bunch of our other sort of mutual friends, they said that you guys together in the outdoors, you'd be like best friends.
	So we got to do more of that.
	But right now we got a country to save.
	So thank you for everything that you're doing.
	Thanks for being here.
	And I look forward to seeing you on the road very soon.
	You too, John.
	Thanks a lot.
	It was fun.
	Be well, buddy.
	You too.
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