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Unity vs the Uniparty: America First, Always. Interviews with Rep Jim Jordan & Steve Moore | TRIGGERED Ep.168

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	Hey guys, welcome to another huge episode of Triggered.
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	The House Judiciary Chairman, Jim Jordan, will be here to deliver the latest developments on his investigations into the Biden crime family, the corrupt Democrat consultants profiting off of the lawfare, and so much more.
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	We're going to do a deep dive into the state of the Harris-Biden economy with Trump economist and co-founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, Steve Moore.
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	All right, guys.
	Joining me now, House Judiciary Chairman Jim Jordan.
	Chairman Jordan, thanks for being here.
	We really appreciate it.
	Good to have you back on the show.
	Yeah, well, good to be with you.
	Thanks for all the good work you're doing, and always good to sit down and talk with you about what's happening out there.
	Well, you know, we're all trying.
	We got to get up there.
	We're up against a lot.
	But, you know, recently your impeachment inquiry showed
	Conclusively, you know, and I think it's something we've all known and everyone's probably gotten it, you know, but that Joe Biden abused his public office for private financial benefit for the Biden family, for the grandchildren, for Biden business associates.
	You know, what are some of the key details that people need to know and understand?
	Well, we found two things.
	First, abuse of power.
	And this is where they're basically selling access to the brand.
	The brand, of course, is Joe Biden.
	Not what you or I say.
	This is what Devin Archer, Hunter Biden's business partner, said under oath in his deposition.
	They were selling access to the brand.
	The brand was Joe Biden.
	$20 million, I think it's $27 million, we point out in the 291-page report that we unveiled yesterday.
	So there's abuse of power.
	There's all that that's going on.
	And where they sold that access was Joe Biden would show up at lunches, he would show up at dinners, he would get on the phone while Hunter Biden and Devin Archer were entertaining.
	These foreign entities, these foreign interests, that's how they did it.
	That's how the access and access to the brand was accomplished.
	And then, of course, there's also the part that our committee worked on mostly, which was the obstruction of justice.
	The fact that David Weiss, when he came in, would hardly answer any questions.
	He stuck just to just what happened in the scope of how he was investigating.
	He wouldn't get any of the details.
	And then, of course,
	The Justice Department and the Biden White House working together to keep us from getting the audio tape that Robert Herr has, that they now have, the Justice Department has, of when they interviewed Joe Biden in the whole classified documents case as well.
	So those are the two main charges.
	It's abuse of power and it's obstruction of justice.
	We think we lay out all kinds of concerns in those areas.
	And now it goes to the full House.
	And the way our great system works is the House of Representatives will decide if we're going to move forward or not.
	But we felt it was important to three committees.
	In an impeachment inquiry, we had an official vote.
	We had a formal vote on this.
	And the majority of the House said, yes, we should proceed in this manner.
	We thought it was important to release the report.
	So listen, I think for anyone who's been watching, obviously, you know, sort of, you have to obviously back it up with details.
	That didn't stop the Democrats from doing it to my father.
	It didn't stop them from doing it to me.
	You know, I mean, I did my 50 hours of congressional testimony because I was apparently an agent of Russia.
	Like, you know, I didn't make $27 million.
	We didn't make any money.
	I think we're the only people that lost money going to the White House as a family.
	But, you know, people have been hearing about these things, you know.
	China doesn't give a billion dollar investment to crackhead Hunter Biden.
	That doesn't happen unless they're wielding influence or they're buying off a politician.
	So people have known about all of this for a while.
	What were the hurdles that the other side threw at you to prevent you from being able to do anything?
	And do you think part of how they got rid of Joe Biden was they're worried about this coming, even though perhaps it's too late to effectuate much in terms of this term?
	Well, I think, yeah, I think it was all this.
	It was all this about the Biden family.
	Then, of course, there was the performance he had on June 27th.
	I mean, that was the last straw, why they kicked him to the curb.
	I mean, by the way, President Trump, your dad did such a good job in that debate.
	I mean, there were moments in that debate where, frankly,
	I think we all sort of felt sad for our country that this is the guy who's the commander-in-chief, this is the guy running the executive branch, President of the United States, most important official on the planet, and it's Joe Biden.
	Then there were other times where, frankly, it was just plain funny.
	I mean, when President Trump said- I don't even know what he's saying!
	He doesn't know what he's saying.
	I was actually watching it.
	You'll appreciate it.
	Our chief of staff and Bernie Marino was in town, who's our great Senate candidate.
	He was in town in D.C.
	that night.
	So we just we kicked back in our office.
	Our chief is Kevin, our chief of staff, Bernie and myself.
	And we could not believe it.
	So President Trump did such a, your dad did such a good job in that debate.
	Just handle it.
	And I think the same thing is going to happen when we get to the debates coming up.
	But yeah, I think it was all of this.
	And again, they accused
	They accused President Trump and your family of exactly what they did.
	It wasn't true.
	They actually impeached the President on Ukraine.
	He has a phone call with the President Zelensky of Ukraine and nothing, nothing, it was a fine call.
	Nothing happened there.
	But then you have the most compelling facts, I think, with then-Vice President Biden, where when his son gets put on the board of Burisma, his son's not qualified to be on the board, his son then gets asked by the head of
	He called the big guy!
	He calls the big guy, and then the big guy, five days later, goes and leverages our tax money, American tax dollars, to say, you don't get the loan guarantee, Ukraine, unless you fire the prosecutor who's applying the pressure to Burisma.
	Those facts are just 100% accurate.
	Those facts are there.
	And yet, so they did that, and yet that's what they accused
	President Trump was doing, which he didn't do.
	It's, again, this is just how Democrats operate.
	So you have all those facts that we point out in the report.
	And then, of course, all the money that Chairman Comer and his committee, what they dug into the whole, I mean, probably the best one is Batarina, the wealthiest woman in Russia, the wife of the former mayor of Moscow.
	Has a meeting and then shortly after the meeting sends three and a half million dollars to Hunter Biden's company.
	And at that meeting, oh, by the way, Joe Biden showed up at that meeting.
	That was access to the big guy, access to the brand.
	But so, you know, we knew about all those things.
	We'd seen that.
	I think I wrote about it in 2020, you know, the Biden, you know, those bribes and, you know, the mayor of Moscow's wife, let's just say,
	You don't get those kind of millions.
	You don't become the mayor of Moscow without the subtle nod from Putin.
	It was clearly a money laundering operation.
	But, you know, that's years old news.
	You know, I felt like with us, you know, the accusations were enough to get me and everyone else in our family, you know, on a stand before Congress under oath.
	And yet they've been able to stall this thing for four years.
	How do we change this going forward that, you know, that we're fighting the same game?
	Because again, at this point,
	Obviously, we want to get to the truth.
	Obviously, we'd like to see justice.
	But like Joe Biden's he's a lame duck.
	He's got, you know, a couple of months left.
	I don't think he's even I'd actually I guess my next question would be who's actually running the country because it's clearly not him.
	But, you know, they were able to play this out as long as they needed to.
	And he was going to lose anyway.
	So they just they flipped them out.
	Yeah, they flipped him out.
	Well, I think first of the question, who's running the country?
	In foreign policy, it's the same crowd that was there with Obama and Secretary of State Clinton.
	It's Tony Blinken, Jake Sullivan, Bill Burns, Wendy Sherman, that same group of people.
	I always say the same group who gave us Benghazi are the people running foreign policy in the Biden-Harris administration.
	Domestic policy?
	I have no idea.
	It's just the left.
	I mean, they're going to spin like crazy.
	They're going to do all the crazy left-wing things.
	It was Governor Huckabee Sanders.
	She had the best line.
	She said, a year and a half ago, after the State of the Union, she said, the divide in America today is normal versus crazy.
	And it is true.
	Not all Democrats are crazy, but the left that now controls their party is completely crazy.
	And we could just go down the list.
	I don't know who's running domestic policy.
	It's probably the Obama people.
	That'd be my best guess.
	It feels like it's Kamala Harris, right?
	I mean, she's now on the ticket and, you know, now she's going to do something about the border.
	I'm like, you were where the borders are.
	Now she's going to do something about inflation.
	Like, you're literally there.
	You're the other person in charge.
	And I'd also argue that right now you could credibly say Kamala Harris could be the most powerful vice president in American history in the sense that
	She's the number two to an empty suit.
	A guy that's, you know, clearly, you know, dementia riddled, whatever it may be.
	It's sad, but it's accurate.
	You know, Joe Biden, no, he's usually fairly decent in meetings between 10 and 4.
	I'm like, you mean...
	You know, in a six-hour window?
	Like, this is America!
	Like, we're doing... So, you know, the terrorists, the bad guys, like, you know, they're gonna wait till 4.01 to attack us or our allies and, you know, Joe Biden's gonna be incapacitated by that time because it was too much thinking in that six hours?
	I mean, this is someone that could have done all of these things and she's pretending like she doesn't even...
	Have anything to do with this administration.
	It's sort of amazing, and the media is letting her get away with it.
	And I was going to say that, and you're right, the press is letting her get away with it.
	That'll end though, because at some point we're going to have to debate.
	And let's remember, they just made the Borders are, the administration that allowed 10 million, I think on pace to get to 12 million in this administration, the administration that allowed that
	They just made, the Borders are, who presided over all that, they just made her the nominee.
	They made the person who cast the deciding vote on the Inflation Reduction Act, which actually caused inflation because it spent a fault load, trillions of dollars, they made that individual their nominee.
	So yeah, there's no way she can, she can try to hide from it, the press can try to help her.
	But at some point, President Trump and Vice President Harris are going to be in a debate and that stuff's going to be, and here's something unique we have.
	We don't typically get this in American politics, but we've had back-to-back administrations.
	We had the Trump administration and we had the Biden-Harris.
	And now those two administrations are running for who's going to be the next president.
	The country can see clearly.
	I always say this campaign in my mind is so darn simple.
	We went from safe streets to record crime.
	We went from a secure border to no border.
	We went from $2 gas to $4 gas.
	We went from stable prices to record inflation.
	And we went from a Commander-in-Chief and President Trump who projected strength, where Russia didn't go into Ukraine, Hamas and Hezbollah didn't attack our best friend Israel, we went from that to Biden-Harris.
	So that's the choice.
	And right now it's all the pep rally and it's, oh, we got rid of Joe Biden, thank goodness.
	We got the first black female running.
	We got, you know, Midwestern Tim and all this stuff.
	And now they got their convention.
	But at some point,
	It gets down to what are the last, the four years we have with President Trump and the four years we have with Biden-Harris, and we can make those points, I think, clearly when J.D.
	gets a chance to debate Tim Walz and when President Trump debates Vice President Harris.
	Yeah, they're doing this, you know, Tim Walz is this folksy, Midwestern guy, he's, MAGA is really afraid of his masculinity.
	I'm like, I'm looking at these pictures, I'm like, you know, I get when he's playing it up on camera, but like you look at some of the, I'm like,
	I don't know.
	Doesn't seem all that masculine to me.
	Like, I don't know that, you know, it's folksy Midwestern values.
	I've spent a lot of time with you in Ohio.
	I don't, I don't know too many guys like you that would put tampons in boys' bathrooms as an example of folksy Midwestern values.
	I don't, I don't think you'd vacation in China.
	30 times?
	I don't think you'd have your honeymoon there, and I don't think you'd actually have your wedding anniversary on the date of Tiananmen Square because you really like that the government shut down an uprising.
	I mean, it doesn't seem like folks need Midwestern values, but again, Kamala Harris now.
	She's stealing Trump policies.
	You know, no tax on tips.
	You mentioned she signed the Inflation Reduction Act, which caused the inflation, but it also brought in, what, 86,000 IRS agents to literally try to go after people and prevent them from being able to get away with not paying taxes on tips.
	Now it's like, no, no, this is my policy now.
	And everyone's like,
	We'll be quiet.
	It's fine.
	You know, I've not seen anything like it.
	And that was following like a three week period where the media was actually objectively honest for the first time about Joe Biden.
	Now, it was to get rid of him.
	It was to force him out of the race.
	And then they went back to doing their, you know, their propaganda.
	But I guess I'd ask, you know, now that Joe Biden is forced off that stage, it was I mean, it was really a coup.
	I guess Democrats, maybe they're less willing to cover up for some of the corruption.
	What do you think your findings mean as far as it relates to impeaching Joe Biden or potential criminal consequences to others in the family?
	I know they wanted to put me in jail.
	You were in some of those hearings.
	They wanted to try me for treason, a crime punishable by death.
	Is there any accountability in the end for Hunter?
	For the family's foreign corrupt dealings and business practices?
	Only if President Trump wins.
	I mean, look, you know how this works.
	We in the legislative branch, we can do the oversight.
	We can get the facts to the country.
	By doing that, many times you can change behavior.
	I mean, sometimes just getting the facts out there.
	We no longer have a disinformation governance board because we all made a big issue of that, you and the media and talking to those of us on the inside.
	We no longer have the IRS making unannounced visits to American citizens' homes because we caught them.
	Knocking on Matt Taibbi's door at the very moment he was testifying in front of our committee.
	So, sometimes just pointing out all the crazy... GARM, this crazy group that was attacking the Federalists and the Fox News... And right here on Rumble.
	Rumble and X. Exactly.
	We had all those... We do a hearing, we do a report, they fire the guy who's head of the biggest advertising agency in the country, and then the very next week Elon Musk takes
	I think it's one of the key reasons why he's got to win in 77 days.
	Let me just do one other thing.
	This Tim Walz guy, you are so right.
	He's the guy who said, snitch on your neighbor during COVID.
	He's the guy who let Minneapolis burn.
	And the thing that bugs me most about this guy is he's the guy who started this whole J.D.
	Vance's weird, ridiculous stuff.
	And I told a group yesterday, I was speaking, I said, weird, J.D.
	Vance came from the humblest of families, owned public assistance, United States Marine, Ohio State grad, Yale Law School, successful in business, United States Senator from the seventh largest state, vice presidential candidate on a major political party's ticket,
	And he's only 40.
	That is not weird.
	That is amazing.
	That is exceptional.
	That's the American story.
	It ticks me off when they go after a good guy.
	I know he's a friend of yours, too, and you know what good guy he is.
	That is BS, what they're doing.
	And again, I don't think that's going to get through.
	I think the truth is going to get through.
	The American people see in J.D.
	Vance the American story.
	Yeah, when people read Hillbilly LG when they see the movie.
	I saw it at the DNC.
	Best-selling author.
	Sold so many books, they make a movie about it.
	Give me a break.
	Yeah, at the DNC, I saw a couple of these really radicals.
	They're like, he went to Yale.
	I go, excuse me.
	Like, he literally escaped Appalachia.
	Like, he went to the Marine Corps.
	They're like, he left Ohio in the dust.
	I go, wait, wait, wait.
	Like, he went to the Marine Corps.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	That's not leaving Ohio in the dust.
	That's living the American dream.
	Democrats don't want that.
	They want people to remain in poverty because you're probably more likely to vote for Democrats because they'll put you on a government program, you know, giving you other people's money.
	Yeah, I mean, that's what they say, the lies they tell.
	I mean, that is just so wrong because, again, you and I have had the privilege of getting to know our vice presidential candidate, our senator from our great state, and it just ticks me off when they do.
	But I think it shows just how, you know, the things I heard last night, if they're convinced, I got home last night, we were out and about our district, and the things I heard, I'm like, these people don't know what they're talking about.
	Again, it's normal versus crazy.
	I mean, if you think about their policies, it is crazy to defund the police.
	It is crazy not to have a border.
	It is crazy to want non-citizens to vote.
	It is crazy to say men should compete against girls in sports.
	How about this one?
	I said this at a speech, it is crazy to let a Chinese spy balloon fly clear across the country and then shoot it down.
	You and I would have said like, I think we should shoot the police.
	No, President Trump would have shot it down before it went across the country.
	But Joe Biden and Kamala Harris say, no, no, no, let it apply.
	This is how crazy the left has become.
	And it's why, again, this election is so darn important.
	Yeah, I mean, it's typical Democrat projection, right?
	You sort of talked about it, all the things they accused us of doing, meaning me and my family and my father, Joe Biden and Hunter Biden and Jim Biden and all the other Bidens were actually doing and benefiting from.
	It's the same when they talk about
	You know, J.D.
	Vance is weird.
	I'm like, I don't know, J.D.
	Vance seems like a really, like, normal, like, American, incredible American dream story.
	Like, Tim Walz with the prancing and, you know, back-slapping the wife and, like, you know, tampons in boys' bathrooms and allowing, you know, their major cities to burn to the ground, setting up a hotline to snitch on your neighbors during COVID.
	Like, that to me is weird, but they do that.
	You know, they continue to do that.
	The policies, you know, continue to do that.
	So the projection is scary.
	And so is the corruption.
	Because I'd like you to talk about maybe, you know, you've probably seen, you know, that group, Authentic Campaigns, where the daughter of Judge Murchon, one of the guys, you know, trying my father, he's guilty of 34 felonies.
	I mean, you know, he's more, he's guiltier than Al Capone ever was of anything.
	Uh, the daughter is working there.
	She's making money off of lawfare.
	She's representing the biggest, you know, liars in Congress, Schiff and Harris.
	Uh, they're, you know, seemingly, you know, handing away front row seats to the trial to their biggest donors.
	And it's like, this guy doesn't have to recuse himself even if it's New York State law.
	They're totally, you know, just...
	They just turn their eyes in the face of lawfare.
	Again, projection, right?
	The people who complain about the biggest threats to democracy want to make sure you are not able to vote for the person you want to.
	The people who call the other side fascists act awfully a lot like fascists.
	I mean, your committee recently sent a letter to that group's founder.
	What are the next steps there?
	Because that seems to be the most flagrant of all of them in a certain way.
	Yeah, we're on our second letter.
	There's a sort of this dance you have to do.
	We have to consult with House Counsel, but the way you have to do this, but I do believe it.
	We're going to be issuing a subpoena real soon if they don't give us the information that we believe they have.
	Because remember, this is Authentic Campaigns, the name of Judge Mershawn's company, did millions of dollars of business with Democrats, this whole law firm.
	And they were raising money for these Democrats by specifically citing
	The court actions against, the indictments against the president, the ridiculous cases... Yeah, and the dollar's making millions, and New York State has like a six degrees of separation kind of rule.
	I mean, that's your first degree of separation.
	Like, that's a law in New York State.
	That's not like, hey, there's kind of ethical guidelines we'd like you to generally follow.
	I mean, this is written in New York State law.
	Doesn't matter.
	Not recusing myself.
	We're going all in.
	We're going to keep doing it.
	They get to have that benefit of that.
	They're selling essentially access to the fundraisers to watch
	Yeah.
	And if they don't get the information back to us Friday, which is when the due date is, in three days, then we will follow up with a subpoena and try to get that information.
	Because we think it's, we think this again, you mentioned this, this is all part of this sustained attack against President Trump.
	I tell everyone all the time, it started with they spied on his campaign, then it was Mueller, and your whole family had to live through that.
	Then it was Mueller, 19 lawyers, 30 agents, $40 million they spent harassing him to find zero, absolutely zero collusion, coordination, none whatsoever.
	Then it was impeachment.
	Then it was raiding his home.
	Then they said, oh, let's try.
	The best way to beat someone is not to let him play.
	And they took lawfare with his 14th Amendment.
	Craziest thing I've ever heard, and thank goodness the Supreme Court said 9-0.
	That is ridiculous.
	Then it was the four crazy indictments.
	Fonny Willis, or as some people say now, Fonny Wade, right?
	Fonny Wade in her case, Alvin Bragg in his ridiculous case, Jack Smith, and on and on it goes.
	But throughout it all, the facts keep coming out.
	And every single time, it's like, President Trump didn't do anything wrong.
	You guys are engaged in lawfare.
	And the worst example, of course, is the Brad case.
	And as you point out, Don, Judge Mershawn, who definitely, any objective juror, so I've heard talk, any law professor, anyone says there is no way he should have presided over this case.
	He should have absolutely recused himself.
	It's his daughter making the money, tens of millions of dollars.
	So, but again, throughout it all, the people I think see through it, and President Trump has just gotten stronger, which is a testament to his character.
	Just the poise and character he's had and displayed over this time, I think, is truly amazing.
	Frankly, we really saw that, and you know this as well as anyone, we really saw that on July 13th.
	I mean, what he displayed there, the character poise, the toughness, the leadership, literally under fire, was
	That's what we need.
	These days everyone's a badass on the internet, Jim.
	Encouraged in the face of actual fire, that's when you find out what you're actually made of.
	I think America saw that.
	But you said something interesting.
	You just talked about sort of the dance.
	The dance you have to do relating to sending letters before you can send a subpoena.
	What exactly does that mean?
	I don't feel like the Democrats gave us that benefit.
	Subpoena.
	They don't seem to have to follow the rules or the process.
	They're given a pass.
	You know, I guess, honestly, one of the things our voters tell me most often is, you know, we don't want any more strongly worded letters.
	We just want some action.
	Can we just send some subpoenas out from the beginning?
	Well, I've sent 101.
	I've sent more subpoenas than the entire Congress combined.
	So I'm all for doing that.
	We just know that the case law and everything else is, if you end up in court, you know, we're in court right now with the Justice Department on two lawyers that they would never let us talk to, this guy named Daley and this other guy named Morgan, that we felt we needed to talk to.
	So we're in court there.
	We're in court over the Robert Hur situation.
	In order to do well, and we won in court.
	We won when we got to interview a year ago, Pomerantz, the guy who wrote the book and was working to go after your dad in the Bragg case.
	And then wound up leaving and that's what prompted Bragg to retake up this crazy case.
	So we won that case in court.
	We interviewed Pomerantz and deposed him.
	You typically have to lay the groundwork in case you wind up in court.
	So we try to do it.
	But at some point, you've got to do the subpoena.
	And that's where we're going to be on Friday, it looks like.
	We'll see if they get us any information back.
	They did it the first time, so hopefully they will this time.
	But if not, we'll go with the subpoena.
	Yeah, I mean, you know, or they'll do their best to come up with the technology to, you know, kick the ball down the road.
	You got another two weeks.
	You got to refile.
	They buy their time.
	And they're really just trying to run out the clock.
	And I think that's what people sort of see and are sick of.
	You know, I understand.
	It is a dance.
	It is a game.
	You know, when people are like, what do you mean it's a game?
	I was like, it's a game.
	You know, it sucks.
	There's real stakes.
	It's, you know, it's a high stakes game.
	It's an expensive game.
	It's a, you know, as someone who's been the recipient on the other side of the game, we do not play, you know, by the same rules, you know, in my opinion, unfortunately, but I get it.
	I guess, you know, I'd ask, you know, Jim, as we get into this election cycle, you know, obviously, you know, the presidency is a big one, but I've said pretty openly, like, I don't know that I want to win the presidency if we don't have a majority in the House and we don't have a majority in the Senate.
	You know, because it's going to be more of the same.
	You know, impeachment, the hand will come off the Bible in the swearing-in ceremony.
	Impeachment number three will be filed by the Democrats because, again, they're just, you know, they're more vicious.
	They're more able to get away with it.
	They have, you know, great sounding boards from big tech and the mainstream media.
	You know, the House Republicans right now are holding a slim majority.
	How do you build on that majority?
	What do we have to do between now and November 5th to make sure we get as strong a majority in the House that we can actually get some stuff done?
	Just go tell the story, you know, where the left wants to take the country, the scary things they want to do.
	You know, the tax cuts that President Trump put in, we put in back in 2017, are coming due early 2025.
	If we don't win,
	Everyone's taxes are going to go up.
	And they may even talk about, I wouldn't be surprised if Democrats, if they get that, they'll start talking about taxing unrealized gains.
	And you talk about totally screwing up our economy.
	They do that.
	Now they may just talk about it, which will be bad enough, and then go with some, you know, less bad tax increases.
	But they're going to raise taxes, so we just got to go tell the story.
	I was in New York last weekend.
	The weekend before, I was in Utah, Montana, Idaho.
	The week before that, I was in Iowa.
	I'm going all over to help our colleagues and candidates all over the country raise money and win this election, just like your dad campaigns like crazy.
	We just have to go hard.
	If they prevail.
	I mean, it is right.
	And you mentioned impeachment, which will definitely happen.
	But think about this.
	President Trump wins and we somehow lose the House by a vote or two.
	I don't think that's going to happen.
	But if it would, it won't even be.
	They'll start on January 6th.
	Jamie Raskin has already talked about it.
	They're going to try to play some games on January 6th.
	We're good to go.
	They'll go right to impeachment.
	We just know how they're going to operate.
	So it's critical.
	We win the White House.
	We keep the House.
	And then we have good Senate candidates.
	I was in Montana.
	I saw out there.
	I was helping Ryan Zinke, but I saw he's doing well in Montana.
	Bernie's doing it.
	Talk about Ohio.
	I mean, obviously, that's a big one.
	I think Bernie Moreno has become a great friend of mine.
	Someone I think would be great.
	But, you know, you're up against, you know, Sherrod Brown is sort of a known entity.
	I think, you know, he votes with Joe Biden 99% of the time.
	It's, you know, it's almost hard to believe that, you know, in our
	You know, R plus 10 state like Ohio keeps putting this, you know, radical Democrat in there.
	But talk about what you're seeing on the ground in that race, because again, the Senate is going to be so critical.
	And based on the way the map works, it's also the last sort of election where you actually have a chance to make some gains for the Republican side before you're basically on, you know, pretty solid, pretty rough defense for the next two or three election cycles.
	Yeah, no, Sherrod Brown, you're right.
	He votes with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris 99% of the time.
	But when he's in Ohio, he talks like President Trump 99% of the time.
	So this is it.
	You see some of his ads.
	It's like you would think, well, this guy's a Trump Republican.
	Yeah, it's a radical leftist.
	But I think, again, over time, that's going to get through.
	And what I like about Bernie, too, is he's good on the stump.
	I campaigned with him back in the primary.
	We were for him early, like you were.
	He's good on the stump.
	He relates to people.
	He's got that great American story, like J.D.
	does, where his
	Family came from South America, and they've made it, they've worked hard, and they've been successful in business, and he is all in.
	So, I really like the way Bernie's running his campaign, and he's got the resources now, too.
	So, I saw his ads.
	He had some radio ads yesterday that I heard were good.
	He's going to be on TV soon.
	I think he can win.
	I think there's a reason Sherrod Brown's skipping the convention.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	And that'll really help us because then we not only just win West Virginia and Montana, we win Ohio.
	We got a few seat cushion in the United States Senate.
	And by the way, McCormick is good, too.
	I campaigned with him over in Pennsylvania.
	He's a good candidate, too.
	And he's working hard as well, all in on his campaign.
	Well, I'm glad to see you out there doing all of those things.
	I'm sure we'll run into each other on the trail in the not-too-distant future.
	But, you know, Congressman, really appreciate being here.
	Guys, check out what Jim's doing across the board.
	Really look forward to seeing some of the results of the rest of this investigation from House Judiciary.
	And just really appreciate you being out there as a fighter.
	Thank you, Jim.
	Thank you, Don.
	We appreciate all you're doing and all your family's doing.
	God bless you and your family.
	You too, bud.
	Thanks.
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	OK, guys, joining me now, the founder of the Committee to Unleash Prosperity, Trump economist Steve Moore.
	Steve, really good to have you here.
	Appreciate you talking about some of the details that don't seem to be covered right now by the media in terms of this.
	You know, I say Harris-Biden because there's really no light between the policies.
	But talk about that a little bit.
	I'd like to hear, you know, first off, you know, can you put into perspective how much more the Harris-Biden economy is costing everyday Americans?
	Again, the media is not going to talk about that.
	The media won't get into those details.
	But what are the impacts the average American family is facing in raw dollars?
	Great to be with you, Don.
	I'm a huge admirer of yours.
	And by the way, just apropos of what you were just saying, I don't know if you've seen this new Media Research Center analysis that over the last three weeks, 85% of the media stories about Donald Trump have been negative and 84% of the reports on Kamala Harris have been positive.
	I'm shocked to hear that, Steve.
	I'm shocked to hear that.
	I mean, I really thought they were going to change their tune all of a sudden, magically.
	So I want to make sure that your viewers and listeners know that at Unleashed Prosperity, we did an analysis
	Comparing the four years that Donald Trump was president and the three and a half years that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have been in the White House.
	And on 22 of the 24 measurements, everything from incomes to jobs, to small business confidence, to the stock market, to mortgage interest rates, to affordability, everything from gasoline to eggs, Trump's record is far superior
	To Biden and Kamala Harris.
	And if people just go to unleashprosperity.com, you can see this.
	I showed this to President Trump a few weeks ago.
	He was flipping through this chart book.
	He couldn't believe this data.
	So any objective measure, Don, shows... If you're gonna vote on the economy, you're voting for Donald Trump.
	Because in every single area, Trump has been superior.
	Now I'm gonna make one other quick point, if I may.
	I have been looking at Kamala Harris's proposals.
	I actually think she would be even worse for the economy than Biden has been.
	How's that?
	Yeah, I know.
	It seems almost impossible.
	It's almost as impossible as the fact that Kamala Harris had a more liberal voting record than Bernie Sanders.
	Now, you need like a crowbar to get to the left of Bernie Sanders, but somehow she did it.
	So I'll give you one example.
	She wants $2 trillion more spending.
	She wants to end fracking.
	She wants to have a $1 trillion Green New Deal bill on top of what Biden has done.
	She wants to get rid of the filibuster.
	She wants to pack the Supreme Court.
	She also wants Medicare for All.
	Do you remember, Don, when Barack Obama used to run around the country and say,
	Under my plan, if you like your healthcare, you can keep it.
	Well, Kamala doesn't even say it.
	She says, I don't care if you like your healthcare or not, you're moiming into the government-run system.
	This is a very dangerous anti-business agenda.
	Oh, one other quick thing, because you got me going here.
	Did you see, she's now talking about grocery store police that are going to go down the aisles of grocery stores across America and check what prices they're putting on the
	You know, the bag of Doritos and the price of Oreo cookies.
	I mean, my God, this is America and she wants the government setting all the prices for every good and service?
	Yeah, well, I mean, talk about that and the implications of that sort of price fixing.
	It feels like, you know, I grew up, you know, I spent my summers in what was then communist Czechoslovakia.
	My mother and my father made sure that I got to experience that to make sure I understood just how blessed we were to live in a capitalist society with the freedoms that we have in America.
	So I've been down that road enough to speak intelligibly about it, unlike
	Unlike most in government who tout the great benefits of socialism and communism.
	But talk about that price fixing because that really seems scary.
	I mean, that would seemingly destroy any business and the government's not exactly been known to do things more efficiently or cheaper than anyone else.
	That's sort of the last thing they're known for.
	Where does that all end up?
	Well, you know, we've lived through this.
	I think I may be a little bit older than you are, because I grew up in the 70s.
	I remember vividly that, you know, Nixon and Ward and Carter tried to stop inflation through price controls.
	And Don, it just made it worse.
	I remember getting up at 6 o'clock in the morning growing up in Chicago and we'd load up in the station wagon and we'd have to get in line.
	There'd be 10 cars in front of us for gasoline because they tried to fix the price of gasoline.
	And when you do that, you create shortages.
	And by the way, none of those price controls ever did anything about stopping inflation.
	The inflation rate kept going up and up and up and up.
	So here comes Kamala Harris, and she wants to reinvent these crazy ideas that, and incidentally, you know, I'm a free market, you know, I'm a free market, you know, pro-business guy.
	But even if you had on your show, even liberal economists would admit that price controls never work.
	Yeah, last week I saw CNN be like, wow, these policies are crazy!
	Like, if you've gone too commie for CNN, something is wrong.
	Something is clearly out of whack.
	But there's another point here, if I may.
	You know, I don't always agree with Donald Trump, and I've had arguments with him, and I love that.
	You can argue with the guy, but I love him, and I do everything I can to make sure he's the next president, as of course you are.
	But the one most important feature of Donald Trump, the reason that I strongly supported him back in 2016 and 2020 and now 2024, is he's a businessman!
	He knows how to run things.
	You know, he's been successful.
	Kamala Harris has never worked a day in her life in business.
	Joe Biden's never worked a day in their life in business.
	Neither has Tim Walz.
	These people, how in the world is it so arrogant for them to tell business how they can run their operations when they've never done it themselves?
	Yeah, but, you know, it's easy when you sort of have, you know, the full force and weight of the media doing your bidding for you, right?
	I remember when we're talking about inflation a couple, I guess it was a couple months ago, you know, Paul Krugman, you know, one of your, I guess, colleagues as an economist, you know, he's a Nobel laureate economist.
	He goes, no, no, no.
	Inflation is actually great.
	And if you look at this chart, I'm like, how, what is he, I like, listen, I went to Wharton, I, you know, I, you know, I have my degree in economics and all that.
	And I'm like, what is he talking about?
	And then I see a little asterisk.
	And it says, if you don't include housing,
	Food, energy, and transportation.
	I go, like, I'm no genius, but like, what else is there?
	For the average American, what else is there?
	I understand with the Democrats, they'll say, well, you know, sex change operations for minors are much cheaper now under the Democrat rule, but like, for the average American, you know, inflation is great, unless you, unless you talk about little pesky things like housing, energy, transportation, and food, and I'm like,
	But he does it with a straight face.
	This is, you know, in the New York Times, they run with it as though it's the gospel, and it's like, the asterisk is like, ah, kind of a big deal.
	We gotta talk about that.
	So, you know, one of my favorite stories, Kamala Harris, and I think most of your listeners and viewers know about this, but, you know, when she was reading from her teleprompter, you know, because she doesn't go off script, right?
	And she was talking about price gauging.
	No, Kamala is Price Gouging, not Price Gaging.
	I was like, I don't know what Price Gaging is.
	But that's the point.
	It doesn't matter.
	She can talk about these things, they'll let her get away with it.
	She can make a glaring mistake, or be talking about something that she clearly knows nothing about.
	Clearly!
	And everyone's like, wow, that was a brilliant plan.
	It's like, well, it's not.
	She doesn't know what she's talking about.
	She's even screwing it up off the prompter, and we're just going to go with it.
	Because I'd like you to talk about that, perhaps for a second, Steve.
	Talk about the long-term impact inflation, endless federal spending has on the middle class, right?
	Milton Friedman used to talk about inflation being a tax.
	In and of itself, right?
	Because we end up paying for it through the devaluation of our currency, through the erosion of any assets that we have.
	Talk about that and what it does to the average American.
	Well, first of all, have you noticed that when she goes out and gives these speeches now, she keeps talking about all these problems she's going to solve.
	But wait a minute.
	These are the problems that they create.
	In other words, I'm going to solve the inflation problem.
	Well, where have you been for the last three and a half years when prices went up by 25 and 30 percent?
	And incidentally, I think you probably experienced this, too, because you're so famous, but, you know, when I go to, sometimes with my wife, to the grocery store or the gas pump, people will come up to me, they'll have seen me on Fox News or Fox Business, and they'll start yelling at me, and they'll say, Steve Moore, why do you say prices are only up 20%?
	Well, because that's the official number.
	They say, but look, the inflation that most middle class people are feeling is more than 20%.
	I mean, as you just said, when you talk about the necessities that you have to buy, your groceries, you have to fill up your tank at the gas pump, you have to pay your insurance, you have to pay your mortgage, your rent.
	Don, those are up 25, 30, 35, 40 percent.
	My God, a mortgage on a 30-year mortgage because of the higher interest rates under Biden?
	Those are up double.
	Those are up double.
	Yeah, well, and I guess that's part of the, you know, the issue is that the things affecting real people, those are the things that, you know, aren't counted.
	Those numbers are significantly higher.
	There are things that are, you know,
	Not up that much, but they don't matter to the average American.
	There are things that are up a little bit, but you know, the big ones, you know, I see it at the gas pump.
	And like I said, I, hey, I get who I am.
	I get where I come from.
	I get that I'm the son of a billionaire from Manhattan.
	If I have sticker shock taking my kids to the grocery store, you know, it's not going to change my habits.
	I'm not pretending to be like holier than thou.
	But like, if I'm like, damn, that's expensive.
	If I'm pissed off when I fill up my truck at the pump,
	You know, what's the average American making, you know, 50, 60, $75,000 a year?
	It's debilitating.
	I mean, home ownership as it relates to interest rates, like I look at the home I live in, like I couldn't afford to live in the home I live in if I was to buy it today, getting a mortgage at today's prices.
	It literally changed the dynamic for what I'd be able to do.
	And so if even my own prosperity, so to speak, is affected by it,
	You know, I'm pretty blessed.
	I get that, and I fully acknowledge it.
	You know, the average American must be getting crushed, and yet, they still think that, to your point earlier, you know, Kamala Harris, she's gonna come through this time.
	It's like, listen, she's the vice president to probably the most absentee president in the history of America.
	He spent 40% of his presidency on the beach, on vacation, and, you know, we're told even by his own people that, you know, he's pretty decent between the hours of 10 and 4, but other than that, he's a lot.
	So this could be the most powerful vice president perhaps in the history of America, and yet
	She didn't do any of these things.
	Now she's going to do it.
	She's going to secure our border.
	But you're where the borders are.
	You didn't do any of it.
	You're going to take care of inflation.
	Well, why don't you start now?
	You're literally in power today.
	Why don't you start now?
	If you didn't start three and a half years ago, why don't you take that on now?
	Well, we can't bribe you with your own money, we can't run on promises that we have no intention of keeping, and that's the idea.
	They're gonna pay off the American voter with their own money, mortgaging their children's future to the Hilt, and they're just gonna lie.
	Like they did about fracking the last time around.
	Joe Biden's not against fracking.
	Well, he was against fracking, and so was she in the Democrat primary debates.
	And then against my father, all of a sudden, I would never do that!
	You know, because they knew it would hurt him in Pennsylvania, Ohio, Michigan, elsewhere.
	And then on day one, they banned the Keystone Pipeline.
	So they were against it, but the media was more than happy to carry their water and pretend that the policies they actually believed in were not their policies.
	Well, you know, let me kind of simplify this.
	Everything you said is absolutely true.
	You know, I've been in this game for a long time.
	I came to Washington.
	I'm ashamed to say I've been in the swamp for 40 years.
	Oh, boy.
	So, you know, I've been following, you know, politics and elections.
	And I would have to say that this ticket, Kamala Harris and Tim Walz, is the most anti-business
	And that's saying a lot.
	I mean, that's including people like Michael Dukakis and Walter Mondale and Hillary Clinton.
	But these people, they hate business.
	Now, look, it's very simple.
	If you don't have businesses, you don't have jobs.
	And if you don't have jobs, you don't have an income.
	And businesses only work.
	I mean, I'm going to keep this really simple because Kamala Harris doesn't seem to understand this.
	Without profits, there's no business.
	You're only in business if you make a profit.
	They seem to think profits are evil.
	No, it's losses that are evil.
	Well, there's no tax revenue if there's no profits.
	Exactly!
	I mean, there's nothing, you know, they can't fund, you know, transgender programs in Pakistan.
	Exactly!
	If American businesses don't make a profit to, you know, to give them, and they don't understand that or care, and, you know, they'll say, well, the stock market's, you know, at a high, but they don't talk about that.
	It's, you know, that's made up like of alphabet.
	There's seven stocks that have performed well, and everything else has actually been lackluster at best.
	So, you know, if you look at your 401k, it's not up.
	The same way as the, you know, the stock market is.
	That's the one place they'll say, look, the stock market's a little bit higher than it was under Trump, but it's in like seven stocks.
	No, no, no, hold on.
	Time out, time out, time out.
	It isn't, because here's the thing.
	We're good to go.
	I've actually never even thought of it that way.
	It happened because the first thing that Biden and Kamala Harris did when they came into office is spend $5 trillion.
	How did they fund that?
	They printed the money.
	This goes back to our old hero, Milton Friedman.
	What is inflation?
	Too many dollars chasing too few goods.
	What did they think was going to happen when they spent $5 trillion?
	Of course, the price of everything is going to go up.
	Interesting.
	So, you know, I guess, Steve, what what would be the path to restoring some fiscal sanity?
	You know, you get so used to spending recklessly.
	You're spending other people's money, you know, in the American system.
	You know, you know, so many in Congress are, you know, they'll write checks they can't cash because they got to win an election in two weeks.
	And who cares what happens after that?
	We'll deal with it then and we'll do it again the next election cycle in two years.
	Uh, is it just a matter of, you know, reducing federal spending?
	Uh, what would that look like?
	Where, where can we actually cut that there isn't sort of a, that there isn't a sort of long-term consequence elsewhere, right?
	Everything has sort of unintended consequences.
	So, you know, the cutting can hurt in certain areas, but I don't know that we have a choice
	OK, I'll give you a good, clear example.
	And I think you know this, that one of the first thing Donald J. Trump is going to do when he gets back into office is we're going to produce so much energy in this country.
	We're going to produce our oil, our gas, our coal, our nuclear power, everything we've got.
	Well, guess what?
	If you produce more of something, what happens to its price?
	It goes down, right?
	I mean, we have $2 gasoline under Trump.
	We have $4 gallon gasoline under Biden.
	So we're going to produce more.
	And when you increase the supply, prices go down.
	That's number one.
	Number two, and I've talked to President Trump about this.
	I think he's fully committed to this.
	On day one that he is in office, we are going to call for a half a trillion to a trillion dollar rescission or empowerment of government funding.
	For example, there's a $300 billion, not million, $300 billion green energy slush fund created by Joe Biden that he's passing out to all his left-wing interest group friends.
	Why spend that?
	Just cancel that spending.
	If you do that, that's going to bring inflation down radically.
	It's almost like some of the COVID dollars.
	It's like they were given to the states, COVID is over, but they still have like a hundred billion dollars to spend.
	And I'm like, but wait, you don't need it for that anymore.
	Like give it back.
	It's our money now.
	We're going to spend it on things totally unrelated.
	And you know, the left has weaponized that so effectively to fund, you know, all their little pet projects, which, you know, essentially a political bribe, but
	But so there are things you can cut without actually hurting the overall.
	The left, they want to give Social Security benefits to illegals.
	You could get on Social Security.
	You've never paid into the system.
	You probably never will.
	It's something that doesn't seem to be on a great track even for the Americans who've been paying into that system.
	We're going to save it and preserve it.
	They want to give it away to people who have never paid in.
	That's a disaster.
	I mean, the only way to get through some of these problems, in my opinion, is through actual growth.
	The only way you get growth is by someone who actually understands how to grow a business, and that's not going to be by spending more governmental dollars.
	Well, you're exactly right about that, and I'll give just one concrete example.
	You know, Biden and Harris spent $8 billion to build electric vehicle charging stations.
	You probably know about this.
	Do you know how many they built?
	I have a charging station in my garage that didn't cost a billion dollars.
	So this is the thing.
	They're not just ideologically wrong.
	I mean, you and I disagree with them with the way they look.
	But they are incompetent.
	They're completely incompetent.
	They couldn't control the border.
	They can't fix the potholes.
	They can't build electric charging stations.
	Now they're going to put, you know, they're going to run the health care system.
	This is it.
	This is an incredibly consequential election.
	And Trump is here and they're way over here.
	I mean, there are folks.
	I don't care if you like Donald Trump or not like him.
	I mean, some of my friends love Trump.
	Some of them don't.
	But think about what this is going to do to your paycheck.
	This is about, Don,
	The kitchen table pocketbook issues that confront every American every day.
	Yeah.
	I mean, I guess as it relates to that, there's also another battle brewing, and that's going to be the 2025 tax cuts.
	When those expire, when the Trump tax cuts expire, what do we need to know about that?
	And what would be another tax, sort of Trump tax relief plan?
	What would that look like?
	So, you know, I'm very proud.
	One of my proudest achievements in my life is having worked with President Trump, with Larry Kudlow, and some others to help put that plan together.
	And, you know, President Trump knew what he wanted to do, but we put some of the fine print on it.
	And, first of all, when Trump came into office, we had the highest business tax rate in the world.
	And he understood immediately.
	He used to call it a Head Start program for every country we're competing with.
	So we cut that rate from the highest in the world to one of the lowest.
	We didn't do that because we love corporations.
	We did it because we wanted to bring jobs back to America and capital back to America.
	Yeah, and I heard Kamala Harris wants to up that again.
	She wants to actually up the corporate tax rate.
	I know!
	She wants to take it to 28 or 35 percent.
	She wants a higher rate than Russia and China have.
	Yeah, these companies, and that's why they did it in the first place.
	It's all these countries, they repatriated their capital, they brought it back to America because it was now affordable, and they weren't penalized.
	She now wants to up that, which is just going to encourage the offshoring of all of these businesses, their corporate headquarters, and the jobs associated therewith.
	That's right.
	Now, number two, for the average middle-class family, we reduce their tax burden annually on federal income taxes by an average of $2,100 a year.
	So when Kamala Harris says, oh, I'm not going to raise taxes on middle-class people, she's lying.
	The average person watching this show will pay $2,000 more taxes.
	I'm sorry, I pay a lot of taxes right now.
	And that's before inflation.
	I don't want to pay more of it.
	And that's before inflation, which is another tax.
	That's a good point.
	And then finally, we simplified, we radically simplified the tax system.
	You know, we doubled the standard deduction.
	So now only 9% of taxpayers have to itemize deductions, which is, you know, always a big... So we made it simpler, we made it fairer, and we made it more pro-growth.
	Why would they want to repeal this?
	Because they want government to have a bigger role in your life.
	Well, it's scary stuff.
	Steve, really appreciate all your efforts and all of that.
	I'm sure, you know, as more of their policies, they're trying to hide their policies from the American people, but as soon as some of that stuff does come out, love to have you back on to get into the details of it, to really break it down so people understand because it matters.
	So I really appreciate you being here and we'll continue following all of it.
	Thank you.
	Good talking to you, my friend.
	Steve, thank you so much.
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