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May 27, 2024 - David Icke
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David Icke Explains His Work To Czech Publishers
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So welcome David, nice to have you here.
Let me just say a couple of words where our journey started because you probably know we started already 2010 and now we saw just What we did in Czech Republic, because today we published the seventh book, Children of the Matrix.
And in the beginning, 2010, you maybe remember that we invited you for the first tour.
That was this human race, Get Off Your Knees.
And it was so amazing because already at that time, we already spoke about vaccinations, already spoke about the Bill Gates.
And I remember how 1,000 people were just stunned inside this top hotel in Prague.
And people just thought it was sci-fi, right?
But these days, we see that it's no more sci-fi.
It's just real.
It's a common reality, everyday reality.
So then we also continued because we published Phantom Self, then we published this Answer.
Answer book was also a very nice book.
And then you came to Prague the second time, you remember?
It was to the Lucerna Hall.
It was beautiful in the center.
Also around a thousand people and we had more like alternative media, televisions, you know, Czech and Slovakians, which connected.
So it was a beautiful, beautiful vibe.
And then we published more books.
And also before COVID, maybe you remember that we just wanted to invite you for the third tour to Prague.
But unfortunately, it was already stopped by the Cabal.
But anyway, we will never stop.
We will continue because more and more people, as you say, are awakening.
And this is so beautiful just to have you here.
So welcome.
Thank you very much and if you can just say something about these two books because we have just this Children of the Matrix which is today an amazing book and I'm also so happy because this is so deep in history.
It's just amazing how How we are connecting inside other books in Czech language.
They didn't go so deep like the Children of the Matrix.
It's amazing and also about 10 days ago we just published The Trap.
You know, so you see this year, this year we have really, we are so productive, you know, that just this awakening is happening.
So we are happy that, you know, even though the system tries to stop us, we're just pushing through and it's amazing that we are just here today.
Yeah, well, I remember, Coming to Prague, because Prague's a fantastic city.
I mean, just amazing city.
Historically, I love the buildings and the river, and it's just an amazing place.
But of all the people, all the places rather I've spoken in the world, I recall the second event in Prague where you
went in and you go down and down.
That was an extraordinary building.
I've never seen anything like it.
And, you know, these two books are representative in many ways of my journey, certainly my journey since about the end of the 90s, because My whole philosophy has been founded on something that's been attributed to Socrates in ancient Greece, which is, in effect, wisdom is knowing how little we know.
To know is to know you know nothing.
That is the meaning of true knowledge, or words to that effect.
And I've always kind of focused in my own work since I kind of consciously started this in 1990.
On that basic premise, I mean, I'd not heard Socrates's quote then, but I was still driven by that, that approach, because one of the greatest blocks On uncovering the scale of what's going on is I know.
Because once you think you know, you've got it, then things stop.
Because I don't need to know more because I know.
And my approach has been that when you get into the basic foundation of reality that we are experiencing, And the physics of it.
And you realize that when we look through our eyes, this is what I go into in the trap a great deal.
When we look through our eyes, people think that we're seeing everything in the space that we're looking at.
We're not.
We're seeing a tiny, tiny band of frequency called visible light, in the name that science gives it.
And visible light, which is the only band of frequency that we can see, the entire reality we call human, in terms of sight, is within that band.
And to put that into perspective, according to mainstream science, the electromagnetic spectrum, which is basically this reality, is 0.005% of what exists in the universe.
And visible light is a tiny fraction of the 0.005%.
I mean, if you think that 99% of the visible universe, some say 99.9%, is something called plasma.
Plasma is, we can't see it.
of the visible universe, some say 99.9%, is something called plasma. Plasma is... we can't
see it. So the tiny band of what we call matter, which is just a frequency itself, is negligible.
Thank you.
We perceive the world of matter as the human world.
Oh yeah, we're in a material world.
But the material level of our reality is tiny.
I mean, I'm sitting in this room now, and I'm seeing a wall, I'm seeing a window, I'm seeing a computer.
Seeing some lights.
And between them is what appears to me to be empty space.
It's not, but it appears to me to be empty space.
Because within this visible light frequency band, we can basically only see form.
We can only see what we call matter, which is this low vibrational frequency that As Albert Einstein described it.
And everything in between is empty space.
But it's not empty space.
It's other dimensional space.
And so when you look at that, and you realize that our sight perceptions are only seeing that ludicrously narrow band of frequency, Um, then what Socrates said, wisdom is knowing how little we know, becomes patently obvious.
You know, so the one thing you know that cannot be challenged is that whatever we know or think we know at any point, there's always more to know.
And it's this, there's always more to know, that has driven me for the last one and now my 35th year of doing this.
And these two books, The Children of the Matrix and The Trap, it's very significant that you've chosen those two to publish this year.
Because basically what I'm talking about in in Children of the Matrix is that a non-human reptilian race operating from the unseen is manipulating human society not just a reptilian race by the way but that's a big big part of it.
And what I do in the trap, because it's like, OK, I think I've got this bit.
What else is there to know?
Because of that motivation in this in-between period between the two books in English, I've driven on and I'm now looking at how it's possible for a force To manipulate human society without humans, not only not being aware of it, but not even being able to see it.
And when you realize that, you know, we're only seeing this tiny band of frequency, it means that the entirety of infinite reality beyond that band is denied us.
So when, see, this is the thing.
When when people perceive That when they look through their eyes, they're seeing all there is to see.
What that does is massively limit their sense of perception, their sense of reality, their sense of how things are.
Because what happens is when people like me come along and say, this is happening, and this is happening, and this is happening, when what I'm saying is happening is beyond that band of frequency, they'll immediately dismiss it.
Because if I can't see it, touch it, taste it, hear it, etc., then it can't exist.
And to a very large extent, despite quantum physics, which goes into these deeper realms, mainstream science is stuck with that five sense perception of reality.
So anything that is perfectly normal, if you expand your perception, But he's outside of the perceived normal Then mainstream science has to call it the paranormal Because they can't explain it and one of the things about mainstream science Which I've observed over the years is if they can't explain it, then it can't be happening and it is happening and and and when you
When you look at these institutions, whether it's science or this offshoot of science we call medicine, all these things, they are not pursuing knowledge in the way that Socrates talked about, wisdom is knowing how little we know.
They're actually blocking knowledge.
By saying, if you go outside of our perception of reality, then you're mad, you're bad, or you're a bit strange.
And it's interesting, isn't it?
You know, given our background, you bringing me to To the Czech Republic.
How are there conspiracy theorists?
Well, as someone said very accurately, yesterday's conspiracy theory is today's breaking news.
And so we're seeing that what was dismissed, why was it dismissed?
Was dismissed because It was beyond the perception of people to believe that was could be happening.
Exactly.
And as a result of the covid hoax, a heck of a lot more people have realized that actually it is happening.
So it's it's very timely that you bring out these books because they do represent two ends of the spectrum of my research and through all the years in between.
Yes, exactly.
And because I'm influenced, you know, by your work and everything, so also the others, for example, like Osho Mystic from India, you know, and because I did traveling, also I lived a long time in England, that's why we met, you know, it was for me really Just not coincidence, but it was a fortune, right?
I was fortunate to meet you.
And also thinking, talking about this energy, energy which are coming through the humankind, because we could see this phenomenon, this collective consciousness.
And this is what I also perceive that That more we are actually spreading, you know, this information to the people, then for them it could be like this unconvenient truth, right?
But then if they go through it, they accept it, because now it's more obvious, COVID and all the hoaxes, Green Deal and all this.
So then suddenly we could see that we are making this We're changing the frequency, right?
And this is also what I felt with this human race, Get Off Your Knees, with this lion, right?
Representing this truth vibrations, something which is coming.
So what do you think?
That now we are sort of coming back to this, let's say, like the original simulation of the earth with this, let's say, Vibration, which is more natural, which is according to our functions, because what we see that this is complete opposite, right?
The system is working on the complete opposite and they are sort of betraying us, they are sucking energy from us.
So, what do you think?
Is there like something like higher, let's say, consciousness now, beyond, like the collective consciousness, which is now helping us more and more?
That this both sides now, this like low vibration, you know, this system people, AI, and this other people, this alternative people who are living now, you know, more according to the heart, intuition.
So is there, is there be some sort of collision or there will be like still always like two separate worlds living together?
Well, I think, you know, there's a lot of aspects to that question.
First of all, throughout my period of research and communication, 35 years now, there have been various common themes that haven't changed, but have I've been able to add more and more substance to them and evidence and knowledge to them but they haven't changed and one of them is that this force
Coming out of the unseen, ultimately, but it plays out in our world as what I call the global cult, this global network of secret societies, which spawns front men like Gates and Schwab and such like, and the Rockefellers and the Rothschilds and all these people.
Um, that are actually servants in our reality of this non-human force, which, you know, on one level it, it, it, it takes massively takes a reptilian form, but actually in the end, if you break it down and break it down and break it down, it's consciousness.
It's a state of consciousness.
You know, we behave as we do because of our state of consciousness.
A psychopath is a psychopath because of their state of consciousness.
Someone who comes from the heart is expressing a state of consciousness, which is different to that of a psychopath.
So in the end, you can see all these forms, but actually what's driving the behavior through the form is their state of consciousness.
Now, it's my contention, and I go into this in the trap, that our reality is actually a simulation.
It's very much akin to the one portrayed in the Matrix movies.
And I can explain in detail how that works.
It's not a construct.
It's an information source.
If you think of a computer and Wi-Fi, Then you're looking at the relationship between the human body, which I've been calling since the 1990s a biological computer, and the matrix, the simulation.
The simulation is an information source, like a Wi-Fi field.
And if you said to people, tell me about the internet, they'd say, well, it's pictures and footage and graphics and words on the computer screen.
Well, yes, it is.
But the only place the internet exists in that form is on the screen.
Everywhere else it's Wi-Fi radiation fields and electronic codes and circuits.
And our reality, the way we decode this simulation, I'll go into this in the chat, like I say, is in principle exactly the same.
Because again, this is mainstream science.
What the five senses do, all of them, is pick up frequency information like a Wi-Fi field and they turn that frequency information into electrical information which they then communicate to the brain and the brain then decodes that into what I contend is digital holographic information
And that digital holographic information is what we call the external world, which is not actually external.
It's all in here.
I'm looking at a computer now.
Where is the Internet?
In a computer, is it over here or up there?
No, no, it's inside the computer.
That's where it is.
That's where all the decoding goes on.
And it's just showing a screen of what's happening inside the computer.
Well, this is our computer and we're decoding this information field, this information source into this reality.
And it's like a an interactive virtual reality game.
As with any virtual reality game, the game is influencing you and you are influencing the game.
And to continue to be controlled by this game, being orchestrated by this non-human force, I would suggest, which I talk about in Children of the Matrix, We have to be kept in a low vibrational state of awareness so that we are not connecting with expanded states of awareness beyond the simulation.
Because once you go through that process, which we call awakening, once you go through that process, you start to tap in to levels of consciousness awareness that are outside the simulation and suddenly you're seeing the world in a completely different way because you're not in the world and of it you're in the world but you're not of it because now you're getting your perception radar from outside the simulation now this force does not obviously want that to happen
And so what they are doing all the time is seeking to keep us in states of fear, anxiety, depression, resentment, hatred, conflict, all these low vibrational states so that we remain within the frequency construct of the simulation.
So we're in the game and of the game.
And it's like, you know, when you put a headset on to play a virtual reality game, not that I ever have, but the people that do, if you go onto the internet and just put in words to the effect of virtual reality game compilations, and you will see people in a room Like this one.
Put on a headset.
And within seconds, their sense of reality is completely transformed.
They're screaming, they're jumping, they're falling off their chair in response to what's being fed to their brain as a sense of reality.
And then just think about that.
What do these virtual reality games tap into?
They tap into the five senses.
They hijack the five senses.
That's why you have the headset on to give you a visual reality.
You have the earphones for an audio reality.
The more sophisticated ones have the gloves.
So you've got a touch sense reality.
You're in one of these chairs which move around in relation to the game.
It gives it even more a sense of being real.
Now, just imagine, because what I'm saying in the trap is that this body, I've been calling the body since the 1990s a biological computer, because what it's doing, it's decoding the simulation, it's decoding the matrix, it's decoding the matrix information field.
And that's why We can only see this tiny narrow band of frequency called visible light.
It's because the body has been programmed to only see that.
Because if you want to put people in a perceptual prison cell, then you don't want them to have a wide sight panorama, because they're going to see Who you are and what you're doing.
You want to squeeze it so you're not going to see the real controllers.
That's why that's why it is.
I mean, you know, if you just look at the visible light and you see how narrow that band of frequency is, it's bloody laughable.
But it's there for a reason.
And so what we call awakening, what is that?
It's awakening from the dream.
It's awakening from the simulation perception of reality.
And so what you're actually doing in awakening is that you're opening your mind and literally letting expanded states of awareness in.
You know, If you go through life, I have this phrase, what you believe you perceive, what you perceive you experience.
This is why the whole foundation of this conspiracy control of humanity is controlling human perception.
Because from your perception comes your behavior.
You want to control behavior, control perception.
During COVID, You get people to perceive that there's a deadly virus and that the way for protecting from the deadly virus is actually a deadly fake vaccine, then people believe that they will behave as they did during COVID and they'll have your fake vaccine, useless as it is because it was never meant to be anything more than another level of control.
And so It's control of perception that is the foundation of the conspiracy.
And the more that you can be manipulated to self-identify the I, the true I, with the body and the labels of a human life, what does that mean?
That means your sense of self is squeezed and limited.
As your perception of self is limited, I am just my body, I am my sex, my income bracket, my race, my religion, all this stuff.
You are, as a result of that, only going to connect with a very low level of consciousness because your sense of limitation
will limit the consciousness that you connect with because you see yourself as little me.
Well, this is how it works.
Your perception of little me means that you're only tapping into a very low level of awareness
and therefore you manifest a life of little me.
Not because you are but because you believe you are and therefore through this process you manifest that.
It's a self-fulfilling prophecy.
But once you change your self-identity From I am my human labels to I am consciousness, a state of infinite awareness, having a brief human experience and what I perceived myself before to be the labels of the human life.
They're not me.
They are experiences that the true me consciousness is having.
Now, what you're doing is you're expanding your sense of identity, your sense of who you are,
and you're freeing your perceptions from the limitation of I'm only human me.
And as a result of that, you naturally expand and gravitate into higher levels of consciousness,
frequency consciousness.
And as a result, you start to see things you couldn't see before,
and that's what we call awakening.
So we've got this situation where people are starting to awaken.
It's a long way to go, mind.
They're starting to awaken.
A lot, a lot more people than ever before, I can tell you that from my own experience, are awakening.
And then you've got the, you've got the cult, the global cult, and this non-human force it represents, seeking to suppress that awakening.
And not only suppress it, But diverted.
And this is why I have been challenging for a long time now, a year or more, what I call the mainstream alternative media.
Because, you know, when something like COVID happens and people as a result Start to see, hold on a minute, the world's not like I thought it was.
Especially now, as they're starting to realize all those things they dismissed.
Anti-vaxxers, they're horrible, they're killing Grenny.
And now, oh, they were right then.
So people are starting to see the world's not like they thought it was.
And my question is, is this global cult and this non-human force behind it Given that awakening, is it going to leave the mainstream media alone and just let it get on with it?
Well, of course it's not.
It's going to try to hijack it and divert it.
And so many people have started to see that there's a game going on here, a game of dystopia, that you can't hide that anymore.
You know, Covid was very powerful for the cult, but it was also very dangerous because of the the number of people that re-evaluated the world and themselves as a result.
So what they're seeking to do since Covid, I've seen it, I've watched it.
I've been doing this for 35 years.
There was no alternative media when I started out.
It didn't exist.
I watched it.
I watched it appear.
But what I've watched since 2020, I've watched it being hijacked by more and more people who actually bought the covid hoax originally, when some of us didn't.
And now they've kind of put forward the big interviews with Tucker Carlson and someone else who bought the hoax, by the way, to start with.
And and now they're covid activists, bloody heroes.
And what I've what I'm seeing and I'm seeing more and more evidence of it Is that there's a process in play to make it appear that things are being exposed.
But actually limiting that exposure to levels of awareness that are not really well, a they're not really going to overturn the bus, if you like.
But also, they're really just repeating what we already know.
You know, I'm seeing bombshell broadcast and such like, and oh, God, great revelation.
And they then reveal what these are.
And you go, that was in my books 20 years ago.
So they're basically just repeating what we already know.
And it's creating what I call a barricade.
Around the the central point of the the the mainstream alternative media.
And there's a guy who's emerged that is a key.
Elon Musk and I've been tracking Elon Musk long before he bought Twitter or apparently bought Twitter now X.
And I wouldn't trust him to tell me the time in a room full of clocks.
And so when he purchased, in quotes, Twitter, I knew there was a scam and it's become clearer and clearer what that scam is.
You know, if you look at what Musk is standing for and what he is doing with his companies, He is serving the cult agenda, the World Economic Forum agenda, which is an expression of the cult.
Massively, without things that he's doing, a lot of this stuff, like, you know, the AI stuff, what have you, and the control of the human brain via AI couldn't be happening.
And maybe get into why that is.
It couldn't be happening.
And what was going on before he bought Twitter was that a lot of people in the mainstream alternative media were calling him out.
They were saying, this guy is advancing the transhumanist agenda of the cult, as I call it.
But once he bought Twitter and let a few people back on, it stopped.
And now we're looking at this extraordinary cognitive dissonance in the mainstream alternative media where there's a guy who, in company after company, is advancing the cult agenda in ways we can talk about if you want.
But at the same time, they're eulogizing him as a hero.
And so it's I'm not I'm not best pleased, if you like, with the way the mainstream alternative media has gone.
And outside of that, outside of that.
That barricade are lots of great people, truly alternative people and truly alternative journalists who are who are seeking more and more knowledge.
But if you notice how little Is brought to the table in terms of new information by the central core of the mainstream alternative media.
It doesn't.
And I don't.
There's a reason it doesn't, because it's a barricade.
It's here and no further.
And if we play that across what I've just said about consciousness, In the end, it is about perception and it is about an expansion of awareness, an expansion of consciousness.
And so it's an expansion of consciousness where you see a bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger picture of what's happening.
Whereas the mainstream alternative media now is focusing people only on the politics and the five cents stuff.
And it's limiting that expansion.
It's stunting that expansion, which needs to happen for us to really bring the barricade down and bring the simulation control down.
Because, you know, if you're only looking at Well, let's vote for Trump.
That'll sort it.
Then you're basically going to change nothing.
Exactly, yes, so it's also confirming here in Czech Republic that this, let's say, controlled alternative powers and people behind, you know, they are serving, you know, to the agenda still, you know, that they are sort of catching this awakening people.
They don't have enough information yet, right?
Because it also takes a lot of courage, you know, to read your books, you know, to accept This information, you know, it's not for everybody.
And so this is what we are also doing here, what you're doing, you know, worldwide.
And for me, even though it's, I know how difficult it is, but at the same time, how rewarding it is, you know, that you actually can Provide this to the people and so let's move to the other question because we are we have some still some time so what do you think about this situation in the world obviously that we have this fighting conflict you know with Kabbalah in Ukraine and there was one question from
From our guy, what about the Putin?
If he's playing also the role of the cult or if he's more like awakened, as we spoke now, and he tries to sort of, you know, like throw this spanner into the works of the cabal and sort of help, you know, people to awaken and see the whole game?
Well, one of the things that I've Long realized about this cult and its mentality is that it's terrified of states of flux, situations, the outcome of which it cannot call.
It's very, very frightened of situations where the outcome is not controlled.
So if if they were involved in football, They would not be happy with controlling one side.
They would have to control both sides and the referee to dictate the outcome.
So they would know the outcome before the game started.
That's the way the cult works.
That's why it seeks to control all sides.
And so when you have a country the size of Russia, You're not going to have someone there running it for so long.
Blimey, how long has he been president or prime minister, which was just a waiting period till he became president again with with Vladimir Putin?
And I saw the interview he did with.
With Tucker Carlson and.
He was playing with you.
He was playing with people.
He was saying, I can't understand why they would put sanctions on Russia when it only hurt the West.
Well, of course, he knows why that happened, because the idea is to dismantle the West, both economically and in terms of its culture, hence the mass migration into Europe and the United States and Canada.
And he well knows why they put sanctions on Russia, which didn't hurt Russia, but it hurt the West, because it was meant to.
The thing to appreciate about this global cult is that it doesn't have borders.
Borders and countries are just for public consumption.
They don't exist in the cult reality.
And, you know, I was pointing out for years, there was a film of my life called Renegade, in which I was talking about this, that the plan has been to trigger a conflict between the West and Russia, China, with Iran involved as well and other countries.
In an East-West conflict, this has been planned for a long time.
And, you know, the plan is for the power in the world to move from the West to the East.
This development and emergence of the BRICS grouping of countries, Russia, China and South Africa and all these other countries.
That and Iran also in there, too, in the mix.
And so the idea that Vladimir Putin is a maverick is I'm sorry, I don't buy that for a second.
But what I what I've been saying way back, I said in this renegade film, Is that on the surface, because there's a surface game and there's a game behind the game on the surface game, NATO has been poking Russia in the chest for years to trigger this conflict with Ukraine.
That's why it's been moving more and more of its forces towards the Russian border.
It's why Ukraine has been attacking the Russian Parts of Ukraine going up to the Russian border.
It's to trigger this conflict.
And you've also got the situation in the East with Taiwan, which China claims it owns and got enough land in China once and more.
And then you've got Taiwan being the biggest By far the biggest producer of semiconductors and superconductors and all these things which are essential to smart technology and electric electric cars and stuff.
And you know let me give you an idea of what's been going on and why it's been going on.
Because the cult doesn't have borders it has an agenda.
Things have been happening to increase the power of the East over the West on the road to this control of the world from the East.
You've got corporations, American corporations and European corporations come to that and what they've been doing is outsourcing production to China And countries in the East controlled by China.
So some of the most basic things, including, you know, in America, things like antibiotics, are dependent now on China.
China controls the supply chain to the West of enormous numbers of things.
And it's been done systematically by outsourcing Production by Western corporations to China in the East and so if you look at at China after the Mao Revolution my contention in in the books is that that Mao was a front man for the cult and that that revolution was created to
produce a country that could operate behind its own wall, if you like, of total control.
So that in the West, the process of moving towards more and more control, not least control by AI and technology, had until COVID when it was unleashed, It had to move far slower.
Because are they the democratic, it says here, governments had to pay lip service to freedom and democracy.
No such problem in China after the Mao revolution.
And from the cult point of view, the planners been, and we're there now basically, To use the control of in China to push on the creation of a technological control system that once perfected and incubated would be played out across the West.
So now we have this Chinese system where people are tracked 24-7 by AI and technology.
Where if they behave in ways that suit the government, they get social credits.
And if they don't, they get those credits taken away.
And once enough are taken away, they can no longer travel by train.
They can no longer go on a plane.
They can no longer function in mainstream society.
And if you look at what happened after covid, which was said to have come out of of China, I've said from from pretty much from the start that there never has been a covid virus.
And the whole thing I said in April 2020, the whole thing is a hoax to get you to get a vaccine inside you.
Even before the vaccine was then talked about in anything but Vague terms.
But that's exactly what happened.
But it's very symbolically significant that the quote virus came out of China officially, because what then came out of China was the Chinese system unfolding more and more obviously in the West.
And that incubated Chinese control system based on technology is now moving forward extremely quickly in the West.
And so what you're looking at is, is the power in the world moving eastwards.
And you're looking at a conflict in whatever form that may take terms of an economic conflict.
It's, you know, the West is losing massively now.
With with Eastern China and, you know, Russia has been pushed even closer to China as a result of the Ukraine war and the sanctions because when they put sanctions on the Russian energy supplies, well, China just just said, well, we'll have more.
We'll take more from you then.
And they're now doing military maneuvers together more and more.
And so I don't buy for a second that Vladimir Putin is any different.
But he is.
See, what you have to do to to hide the fact that there's a global control system You have to to hide that you have to get people to perceive sides.
Once you support a side in terms of its government, you're already you've already lost the plot.
So if you look at now, Israel and Gaza and the Palestinians, you can support protest at what is happening to Palestinians and I'm talking Palestinian people.
And you can also have enormous sympathy for the Israeli civilians who were targeted in October last year by Hamas.
That's that.
Why do you have to have sympathy for one group that's being oppressed and attacked and not sympathy for the other?
We should be looking, surely, at situations and not sides.
And so in terms of taking sides, let's have a look at this.
First of all, the Israeli government and the Israeli military and Mossad Have absolutely I've looked at the I've documented this in my books.
They have state-of-the-art surveillance technology and military technology.
And that Gaza fence is guarded to the extent that former members of the Israeli Defense Forces came out after the Hamas attack.
Of which there's a lot more to know, by the way.
And said, if a cockroach came close to that fence, we knew about it.
And yet, on that day, Hamas was allowed, and the word is allowed, to breach that fence in multiple places.
To go into Israel without any resistance.
And although I think some of the things have been made up for sure by the Israeli government, there was a lot of horrific things happened.
Not least the hostages being taken.
And so then you look and this is well documented too, by the way.
But Hamas.
Only exists because of the Israeli government.
I remember years and years ago, decades ago, when we had the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the PLO headed by Yasser Arafat.
And the Israeli government wanted to dilute the power of the PLO representing Palestinians by giving them a rival.
And they funded into existence Hamas.
So, if you take a side in terms of government, leadership, Hamas or the Israeli government, then you're actually taking a side.
We're not realizing that ultimately there's one side.
And the four guys, Are the Israeli civilians and the Palestinian civilians who are being played by a leadership with a mutual ultimately control center control system.
So if you if you go down that road of being like this is one of the things that I've been really Challenging and being really aware of with the mainstream alternative media and this hijack I talk about.
Is that you'll remember that in that pre covid period and before the alternative media was talking a lot about one party states.
They were saying it doesn't basically it doesn't matter who you vote for because the same government gets in just under a different name.
And what's happened now is that has been regressed to left and right.
A left and right conflict, the good and bad, us and them.
And if you look at the mainstream alternative media now, it's right wing politics.
That's what it is.
Look at the mainstream alternative media in America, whether it's Tucker Carlson or any of them.
It's right-wing politics.
And same in other countries, a lot of other countries.
It's just right-wing politics.
That's not alternative media.
That's the old paradigm, repackaged to appear to be alternative.
And so once you take a side in terms of governments, you've already lost.
Have compassion for those who are affected, whoever they are.
The situation should demand our compassion, not the culture or the background or the religious belief.
But if you if you fall for government, you know, we've just had this Eurovision Song Contest.
Which was an absolute bloody catastrophe.
But you had in Britain and America so-called alternative people calling for the public to vote for Israel.
What?
What are you doing?
That's not alternative.
Israel is slaughtering tens of thousands of Palestinians, a lot of them children.
And you want to support Israel in the propaganda war by getting the population to vote for them in a bloody song contest?
This is what I mean by the regression of the alternative media from what it was before to what it is now.
Yes, exactly.
It's a huge topic.
So, yeah, it appears to be one-sided, but also, so what do you think?
Is there any hope for us to live?
Because we also spoke about, you spoke about this also in the books, that we actually can still claim it.
We can just say no, right, to all these things, you know, just stop AI, you know, stop this control.
And what level So, because I understood that this level is just to stop it by your consciousness, right?
And then to see the whole simulation.
So, is there any estimate how many people are needed, you know, to restore, you know, how many people could send this wave, this mass consciousness wave, you know, is there any estimate?
You see, all you can do, all you can do is Put yourself right.
And then what comes from that comes from that.
Because, you know, if I could describe this alternative media hijack, it's it's moving from here's the solution to here's the solution.
So it's vote for Trump.
That's the solution.
Not understand the true nature of yourself, the true nature of the I. This all-powerful consciousness that can manifest its own reality, if it only realizes the power that we have to do that, and that our perception becomes our reality.
Vote for Trump.
That'll sort it.
And, you know, I don't know whether you've noticed this, but suddenly a lot of people who've, you know, a lot of them who have come in since COVID, but others too, have suddenly found religion or particularly an aspect of religion called Roman Catholicism.
And, you know, what is religion?
It's that's where the answer is.
It's out there.
It's not here.
It's out there.
We're just little me.
We've got no power.
I mean, God, God is the one losing the losing the understanding that we are an expression of that ultimate.
Infinite, if only we realized it, but of course, this cult does not want you to realize That you are an expression of the infinite and that you can tap in to all that knowledge, all that awareness, all that insight, all that wisdom that's available when you expand into more and more swathes of this infinite awareness beyond the simulation.
They want you to believe that you are just little me subordinate, subordinate to God.
And what happens is you're looking outside yourself.
So someone will say, Jesus will sort it.
I believe in Jesus.
Jesus will sort it.
But if you're a Muslim, then Allah will sort it.
And if you are Hindu, then Shiva will sort it.
It's all someone else will do it.
And it's taking people away From who needs to sort it?
We do, both in terms of understanding the true power that we have and we are, if only we would let it in, and also that through that power, Through that knowledge that we are an infinite awareness having a brief human experience But there is actually nothing to fear There's nothing to fear because we are eternal awareness Experiencing forever forever that's as bad as it gets and if we If we understand that then you're not going to be frightened of authority
You're not.
But if you don't realize that, if you do perceive that you're little me, and you are subordinate to all these forces, religious forces, political forces, whatever they are, then you are going to be frightened and intimidated by authority.
And you're not going to do what's necessary, non-cooperation with our own enslavement, because you're going to be terrified of the consequences.
Once you realize the true nature of the I and the body is just a vehicle, then consequences don't enter into your decision-making process.
Because if you ask people why they're not doing what they know they should be doing, invariably they'll say, because of the consequences for me doing it.
That fear of consequences and the cult, which works through authority, is delivering that card to us all the time.
You know, what they've done to Julian Assange is not just grotesque punishment for him.
It's saying to everyone else, this is what happens if you take us on.
So it's all about intimidation and getting us to see consequences as the reason we submit to authority.
But once you pass that threshold of awareness, of consciousness, and you enter that expanded state, you don't think of that anymore.
Because that expanded state says one thing, I'm going to do what I know to be right.
Not, I'm going to do what I know to be right for me in the moment.
I'm going to do what I know to be right by everyone, by me, by everyone.
And therefore, it doesn't consider consequences for doing what it knows to be right, because it will say, But to consider consequences is to consider not doing what I know to be right.
And I'm never going to consider that.
So damn the consequences.
They'll take care of themselves.
I'm going to do what I know to be right.
And if we had people in any kind of large number, nothing like 50% that came from that space, this would come down in no time.
But but currently we don't.
And you know, that's that's the end of the rainbow I've just I've just described.
That's the end of the rainbow of awakening.
When you truly reach that point of self identity with consciousness.
That fear is no longer a block to what you know to be right.
And what this What this hijack of the mainstream alternative media is doing is blocking that expansion by holding attention on the problem in the realms of the five senses.
That's where the problem expresses itself.
It's not where it's coming from.
Exactly, thank you.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's quite difficult, you know, to challenge this fear, you know, to go through this fear, you know, and then be out of this, out of this trap.
So, we are coming to the end of our interview.
So, it was fantastic.
So, David, can you tell me briefly also what you're doing in England, you know, because I just saw on your website that you have for the fall, you have like a tour, right, in England.
Yeah, well, I have to tour in Britain at the moment because I can't go anywhere else.
You know, I'm a guy, I don't work for any network or, you know, I do things for Iconic, which my son set up, but Jamie and Gareth Playing a major part in expanding.
And I do work for them.
But I don't have an organization personally.
I'm just me.
And I'm one guy out of eight billion.
And for some reason, I'm saying things that authority seriously doesn't want circulating.
So currently I'm banned from nearly 30 European countries in the Schengen border system after being banned in in the Netherlands.
And this is another thing that they do.
You see, they create networks and they create organizations like the European Union.
Where from a central point they can dictate events across a great swathe of countries.
So the Schengen system is that if you're banned from one of them, you're banned from all of them.
So being banned from the Netherlands, because I'm a grade three terrorist or something nonsensical, means that I'm banned from nearly 30 European countries.
I'm banned from Australia.
I'm pretty sure because the United States and Canada use the Schengen criteria that I'm banned from there.
And so I'm, you know, at the moment, I'm just I'm just in England.
I'm basically isolated in my own country in that sense.
But of course, I'm talking to you in the Czech Republic now.
So that's the way I'm doing it.
But I am doing a tour in of Britain in the autumn, doing a lot of venues.
But I've just finished a new book, which is called The Reveal.
And it's as deep in the rabbit hole as I think anyone's ever gone so far.
Wisdom is knowing how little we know.
And that's coming out in September, late August, September.
And that's going to rattle a few feathers in many, many areas.
So we'll see how that goes.
But you know, I'm in my 35th year of doing this.
I started in 1990.
The start of 1990.
And I'm still going.
And I'm still going because we're not there yet.
We've come a bloody long way.
When I started out in 1990, there was no alternative media.
Even a hijacked alternative media, they just didn't exist.
There was just a few disparate individuals putting this stuff out.
And public interest was basically nil.
I mean, I went to America in even as late as 1996 and spoke to like eight people in near Chicago and five people in someone's front room.
You know, you thought, what's the point?
Well, there obviously was a point because suddenly it took off and it really started to expand after 9-11, which a lot of people kind of thought something smells here.
And it's massively expanded since COVID, at the time of COVID particularly for me.
And we're still going and I will still keep going.
I mean, you know, this is not something you retire from.
It's something you do until the day you leave this world.
And, you know, over these 35 years, I've seen people come and be like flavor of the month in the alternative arena for a while.
And I've seen them go.
And, um, I've never understood if you truly grasp what's happening, that you can come and then go.
Once you realize what's happening, there's no going, there's no giving up and walking away.
Oh, it's too hot in the kitchen for me.
Um, no, no, you keep going and I'm going to keep going.
And, um, you know, One day the waters will break and, you know, they already have to an extent.
But we've got a long way to go yet.
Yes, yes, yes.
It's fantastic.
So thank you also for your consistency.
It's really so admirable that you are in there, you know, and that you are also fighting for all of us, not only for you, but for all of us.
And there is one more question.
Last one.
How do you keep yourself in high?
Vibrations, because, you know, it's sometimes difficult, you know, to see this system, you know, to challenge the system.
How do you keep, okay, you can say by the consciousness, right, by keep the consciousness, see the picture, but how actually, if you can recommend to our viewers, you know, to our people, if you have some method, you know, how to keep yourself in high vibrations?
Well, I don't do anything.
What I do is just every day I wake up And I do what I know to be right, what I believe to be right.
I do that every day.
And that, in a sense, is a high vibration.
Yes, yes.
That you will actually do that.
Now, let me tell people that doesn't mean that you're constantly in a high vibration in terms of your mood.
No, no, you're doing what you know to be right.
And that's a high vibrational state.
That you're not giving up.
And even when you're tired, you still keep going.
But it doesn't mean that there aren't times when you look at the world and you go, what's the point?
I mean, of course, there are times when you do that.
But this is the high vibrational part of it.
I remember there was a book years ago, I think it was called something like Feel the Fear but Do It Anyway.
And, you know, it's understandable, it's completely understandable that when you look around the world and you see what's going on, and, you know, All the abuse that you get, and I get all the time, that you think, well, what's the point?
There's not a problem with thinking that.
The problem comes when you think that and walk away.
When you think, what's the point, but you still keep going anyway, you go, you keep going anyway.
That's the high vibration.
That's the high vibration.
That's the constant A driver of what you're doing.
And so I wouldn't say for a second because it wouldn't be true.
There aren't times when I think.
What is the point?
Because there are, but they pass, they pass quickly because the next day you get up and you get on with it.
And you feel the what's the point, but you do it anyway.
And then as things compound, you realize, actually, there is a point.
There is a point.
We are making progress.
Obviously, not the progress we'd like to make in terms of the speed and the size of the awakening.
But, you know, sometimes you have to just stop.
And just remember what it used to be like.
Because I remember the 1990s when I was talking to empty chairs.
I was turning up.
I was putting the chairs out.
I was speaking to a handful of people and lots and lots of empty chairs.
I remember speaking at a theater once in Glasgow, not Glasgow, but in Scotland.
And it was, there was 325 seats in this theater and not even the front row was full of people.
The rest were empty chairs.
And so in those situations, you say, what's the point?
This is back in the 1990s.
What's the point?
But you get up the next morning and you keep going.
That's the high vibration that drives you.
And it's turned out there is a point from because it's not like that anymore.
But but yeah, it's.
Don't don't feel.
Don't feel that when you get a bit down.
That you're necessarily in a low vibrational state.
Your mood might be, but as long as you get up in the morning and you carry on and you keep going, you keep driving, that's the high vibrational state that's ultimately behind you and driving you.
Fantastic.
So thank you, David.
Thank you for the interview and also for the viewers.
If you can support David and us, just buy the books, support the field, support Awakening, and let's keep going because together we make it.
I can also feel it.
So thank you David and I hope that we will in the near future we will smuggle you in a luggage.
And because I'll lie in the back of your boot anytime mate.
Let's do some secret, some secret decentralized action because you have many followers, thousands of followers, so it's beautiful how this is blooming.
So thank you very much, thank you for your time and we wish you just keep going, keep... Oh, I will, mate.
Thank you.
I will, don't worry about that.
There's a lot of things that I've said over the years, which were perceived to be crazy.
and then suddenly they start to move mainstream.
I'm waiting for someone to convince me that we don't live in a simulation.
What is real?
How do you define real?
If you're talking about what you can feel, what you can smell, taste and see, then real is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain.
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