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May 23, 2024 - David Icke
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Are Your Thoughts Your Own? - Behavioural Manipulation Expert David Charalambous Joins Gareth Icke
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What a week in the madhouse.
World Economic Forum leader and archetypal Bond villain Klaus Schwab has said he's stepping down off his throne, presumably for a retirement condo on the Lake of Fire, and it has us all asking which demonic entity will fill his Viomac boots.
War criminal Tony Blair certainly seems to have racked up enough skeletons for the job, and Jacinda Ardern won herself plenty of brownie shirt points with her Covid restrictions and inhumane mandates, but it could always be someone from left field.
Satan himself may be bored of ruling from the shadows and fancies a bit of limelight.
Who knows?
Talking of Satan, Benjamin Netanyahu has had an international criminal court arrest warrant issued against him.
Oh yeah, and his Poundland sidekick, Yuval Gallant, for war crimes committed in Gaza.
Of course, it means absolutely nothing because The Israeli government see themselves as above international law because, well, they always have been.
And whenever anyone has ever dared to attempt to hold them to account at the UN, their little lapdog, USA, comes along to veto and throw any justice out the window while shouting anti-Semitism.
So while the arrest warrant is meaningless, it has shown up who is on the payroll, as nearly all Western leaders, particularly those inside the lapdog USA, jumped to rubbish the idea of Netanyahu being a war criminal and threatened to place sanctions against the International Criminal Court and its officials.
The USA and Israel's special relationship is the most one-sided relationship in history.
The USA hands over whatever Israel wants and Israel takes it, giving nothing in return.
Well, apart from bribing corrupt and contemptible traitor politicians so they'll give even more of what Israel wants.
Netanyahu is a war criminal, of course, and it's not something he became since October.
He's a deeply corrupt and evil man who commits war crimes as an act of government policy.
The term mowing the lawn doesn't mean the same to him as it does to you.
But scroll through the tweets of nearly all US politicians, Republicans or Democrats, the illusion of choice, and you'll see almost the same tweet, word for word.
I strongly condemn the ICC.
I strongly reject the ICC.
You don't strongly do anything, mate.
You're a dog on a lead.
It's almost like Israel wrote these condemnation tweets themselves.
In fact, they probably did, let's be honest.
And they wouldn't even need the logins because they're pretty good at hacking.
They've hacked the White House before, of course, because that's what precious allies do.
Netanyahu was quoted as saying that arresting him now would be like arresting George W. Bush for 9-11.
Sorry BB, that's not the zinger you think it is.
The President of Iran, Ibrahim Raisi, he's died in a helicopter crash with much joy and celebration from those that definitely weren't involved because we all know it was an accident, okay?
We'll all go along with the accident narrative until it's later admitted it wasn't.
And Julian Assange has been granted the right to appeal his extradition to the United States for the crime of Exposing their war crimes and corruption.
Now, at a time when Britain's prisons are overcrowded and violent criminals, including those that are known to be a danger to children, are being released early, Julian Assange, a man guilty of no such crimes, will remain incarcerated as the can is kicked down the road once again.
The hope has always been that after over a decade in prison, much of it in solitary, without any natural sunlight, that Julian's body would deteriorate to such a point where he ceased to be a problem to them.
You see, they can't release Julian Assange because that will empower people, and they certainly don't want to do that.
They don't want to set a precedent where exposing war crimes becomes acceptable.
They want even more destruction of press freedoms, not less.
But they also don't want to be seen to hand Assange to the USA, a country whose crimes he exposed, a country that's already been caught plotting to kill him.
That's not good PR.
And it kind of does away with the, we're the good guys label we like to give ourselves, mind you.
The UK is currently blindly backing the grotesque crook Benjamin Netanyahu,
so maybe they're not too bothered about being seen as the good guys after all.
Our final guest this evening joins us from the south coast of England.
David Sharalambo is a behaviour and communication expert and the founder of ReachingPeople.net, a project that's dedicated to helping people communicate with those of differing views and shows how institutions and corporations influence us.
The idea is that with that knowledge we can gain greater autonomy over our lives.
David, thank you for coming on.
As an expert in behavioural science, The last four years must have been quite a ride for you.
If we go back to 2020, what were the biggest techniques that you saw deployed against the population?
Well, I mean, divide and conquer was the classic.
It was pretty much every toolbox, every tool in the toolbox was used from what I could see from the pressure, peer pressure, the joint groups to It was quite fascinating, because back in March 2020, because literally from day one, I was kind of expecting this to happen at some point, knowing what I knew about how the world worked.
But I don't think anyone could predict the craziness ensued.
When it comes to, you know, behavioral manipulation, is that something that's deep ingrained?
And what I mean by that is, is it something that they can do?
And then they can do the same thing over and over and over again, and they will always get the same results from the population?
Or do people kind of eventually wise up and therefore they need to evolve their techniques and go, you know, well, maybe we can't pull that one again, we'll better evolve?
Yeah, well, It's a bit of both.
So there's a number of things when you spot the lie, you stop trusting someone, that's game over for that person being able to manipulate you in a specific way.
We've got, you know, we can't process reality.
It's too complex.
So our brain takes shortcuts.
And what happens is that if somebody can hijack the information that I'm processing that I'm not aware of, without my knowledge, then they can still manipulate For example, studies show that if you're in the supermarket, whatever music's playing in the background will have an influence over 70-80% of people's purchase decision, but they won't be aware of that.
So if you're not aware of the information that's becoming part of your decision, then you're effectively vulnerable to that.
How does that work then, in terms of the music?
I mean, I can understand, you know, if there's ads playing constantly when you're in the supermarket, you might end up going and buying some biscuits and you think, I don't know why I've got them.
But yeah, in terms of music, how does that work then?
Well, it's what's known as priming.
So what I mean, the way I look at it is from evolution, that's in all the information in the environment, and what information becomes relevant, makes it to your consciousness.
A lot of the time, information is then processed, but it doesn't become aware.
So if they play French music, it may prime your sort of liking of Paris or whatever, and it will just come to the forefront of your mind, the French wine.
Ah, there you go.
And the same with the German wine, because they ran studies on alternate days with different types of music.
And what was fascinating is that if they played, when they asked the people, did the music have any effect, they denied it.
And that's just one of many variables.
So what you have is, because of the big data and the AI capabilities now, they can study all the variables and then they can manipulate them.
A bit like the person sitting in the control room at the railway.
He can actually move rails back and forth to actually change the outcome of certain situations.
That's fascinating.
I'm thinking now about my purchases and what I've been listening to.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I might be listening to Wham when I bought those kind of, you know, neon headbands.
It's a severely negative thing.
So the thing that we have to understand is that we are influenceable.
So the people that I will spend time with will influence my decisions.
And if I spend time with people similar to me, then hopefully those influences will be positive.
You know, if you spend time with, you know, anyone that spent time with a civil rights leader, that's going to influence their You know, love for freedom, etc.
And that's why the influences in the world are so important, because the stories that are told to us kind of mold our minds.
And when you look at the stories that the teenagers are seeing today, it's not, you know, famous people that are creating or discovering things.
It's basically a clothes horse, you know, standing, you know, next to somebody else that looks like a clothes horse.
So it's not really got my moral ethics.
That's very true.
It's a false reality the youngsters are shown as well.
You know where every single post photo on Instagram where people look perfect and it's like the 20th attempt and it's got about 45 filters on it and all this sort of nonsense which creates a false reality for people.
I mean this is a simple question but how do people see through the nonsense?
Is there a formula to figuring it out?
Because I kind of asked this question quite a lot, particularly during COVID, where there were people that saw through it in March 2020.
And there were people that in 20, well, to be fair, there's people in 2024 still can't see it.
And so you think to yourself, how is that even possible?
Why do you think that is?
Well, that's, it's a complex answer.
But what you've got is imagine that the conscious mind that we're thinking with now is pretty much like the And what you've got is you've got an engine room that contains lots of information that you don't you don't process directly because it's too it's too much going on but your belief system and I mean I can demonstrate actually telling a riddle have you heard the riddle about the surgeon?
I haven't.
So you've got a father and a son in a car they have a car crash the father dies the son is in the hospital in walks the old surgeon and says that's my son. How is that possible?
Okay, I don't know a single person that's answered this correct, even when I spoke
to female surgeons. The person's the mother, but because I said old surgeon, you automatically assumed it was a man
and because the father died, then the brain can't work out what's going on.
That's amazing! Yeah, so what you've got going on is that when we make a decision, we make a decision
with hundreds of variables, you know, it made the brain work.
What happens is that the people pushing the narrative, it's a bit like Ocean's Eleven.
Do you imagine when you've got Danny Ocean, what he's doing is he's trying to make everything look like that false reality you described, but to be so convincing that the person really believes it.
But the thing is, what happens is what breaks it is when one piece of that illusion is you can't ignore anymore.
And what happens is that people have different reasons to ignore the illusion.
So if you're a Wall Street banker, you've got a very motivating reason to ignore, you know, what's going on, because you're profiting from it.
So the brain will sometimes try and hide that from the person.
And that's why I have so much respect for the people that stood up that had a lot to lose, that they, you know, they really put it on the line.
But in short, is a vast array of invisible variables going on.
And when one of those crashes, the person's conscious decision will change.
Trust in the media, the people that have, you know, had an uncle die in a car crash, and they put COVID in the death cert.
That kind of prediction is too big to ignore.
And that's what wakes them to what's going on.
I'm still thinking back to that riddle.
I feel bad now for assuming that the surgeon was a male, but it wasn't a kind of a chauvinistic thing.
It was just like an... I think it's because you used the word old, and now I'm thinking women don't get old.
You've thrown me with that, David, to be honest.
They run it in reverse, and with a different career, and the same thing happens.
So what you've got is that it's stereotypes, and stereotypes at a sort of scientific level are very important.
If you didn't stereotype, you wouldn't recognize a door from the other because you've got to generalize.
The problem comes is when people suffer because of the stereotypes.
And it's just very fascinating how it works.
You've got a group group of people now, and it's at such a fine level that
they can create a forced reality and people won't realize, especially if they're benefiting
from it.
If people are not benefiting from it, and that's when this window opens significantly.
But also understanding this process allows you to break that forced reality much faster for people.
That's amazing.
You're absolutely right, though, David, in terms of the window for, I guess, awakening and pushback is opening with the harder it gets for people because there's less people benefiting, so therefore there's less people ignoring.
You've been working with people for the last few years through your organisation, Reaching People, at reachingpeople.net.
What real life changes have you seen in people that you've been working with?
Well, I mean, I've seen plenty myself, to be honest, as well.
See, when you discover that a lot of your behaviors and thoughts might not be your own, because that's very important.
Think about how many people have become aware the last few years.
They suddenly realized that they saw something in, you know, they were, they became aware that the way they were looking at something wasn't exactly true.
Yeah.
So then they shifted and they grow.
And And what happens is that when you see more and more of that, then you realize, actually, this isn't my true self.
This is the conditioned self that's been given by whatever institution or government is took it upon to give me an education.
But they haven't given me an education to become powerful and free thinking and to do well in the world.
It's basically to fit into the status quo.
And that's generally what happens with all power structures.
So By people beginning to see this, they can really let go of a lot of the problems, the limiting beliefs.
I mean, look at it.
The great quote is, what can I do, said seven billion people.
Now, people don't realize that apathy is not their true nature.
That is, in my opinion, is limiting someone to think that a few thousand people, billions of people, and those billions of people can't do anything about it.
I mean, it's insane when you look at it from that angle, isn't it?
Yeah.
But that's exactly how we're conditioned to think, isn't it?
Little old me.
And you have that kind of, well, it's always been that way.
That's another one.
The hero time.
Everyone knows that.
It's always been that way.
What can I do about it?
And you're just like, well, everything.
You know, it's a numbers game for one, but of course.
Totally.
And what happens is when you understand So I talk about behavioral sciences, as pretty much containing all the psychology, different subjects, all the behavioral subjects on this.
And when you start to look at that, the answers are there, really, because those that you just described that people give, they're not conscious decisions.
Okay, that's the brain doing something called system.
Now, if you understand that the person is going to do that, you can actually avoid that happening.
There's a certain way that when you present, this is one of the things that there's three main areas, communication, not to trigger that defense, and not to trigger that system justification.
How can we have a conversation where I can have information that went to your mind, change those invisible variables, and then you will come to different conclusions.
And that's one of the most powerful things we look at.
Do you believe, obviously we've spoken now about the fact that people have this power, that realisers have this power.
I think that is the case for a lot of people.
There's also this kind of, this non-player character theory.
Is that something that you've come across?
Someone that's simply, that they're kind of immovable from, I guess, the metaphorical software that they're born with.
I mean, I've met people that kind of convinced me that maybe there is something in this NPC thing where you're literally, you're looking at them thinking, oh, it doesn't matter what I say, nothing's coming in.
Yeah, well, I, I basically think those people have just disconnected from their true nature.
I kind of look at things a little bit different, because what you've got, there's so many fascinating algorithms that have been calculated through behavioral science.
So one of them is that 65% of people can have their moral compass moved.
And a lot of them are not aware that it's being moved.
So one of the ideas, I think, that really starts to explain it well is the situation has more influence over most people's behavior than their personality.
There's only about 10 to 20% of people, and they're generally the people that you will know Gareth, because they've been able to resist the situational manipulation, as it were.
But 80 to 90% of people generally are, their behavior is instigated by cues in the environment.
I mean, if everyone starts, they will just follow them.
There'll be about 10% of people that go, hang on a minute, what's going on?
You know, I need to work this out.
And that's probably consciousness that we don't all go off the same cliff.
The problem is that the people leading those people don't have their interests at heart.
So what we really need is a lot of people that have good intentions and good morals to start understanding this information so they can lead them to better outcomes.
Absolutely.
Well, David, where can people find you?
Obviously, you've got this organisation.
Is that something that you solely do online?
Or are you, you know, doing workshops out and about, lectures and stuff like that?
Yeah, pretty much all of that.
I do support a lot of the groups, a lot of different groups around the world, in understanding what's going on messaging and how to communicate.
We do run lots of workshops and we run It feels like we are in a psychological war, aren't we?
And I feel like we've been in one for a very, very long time.
me and I feel like they've got good intentions, then I'll try
and help them in any way that I can.
That's great, because it's so vital. I think now, well, it feels like we are in a psychological war, aren't we?
And I feel like we've been in one for a very, very long time.
Yeah, much more than people realise. And I think there's a few people that said it's a one way street, isn't it?
You don't have people just suddenly becoming unaware.
That's why it gives me hope.
And of course, when people try and steal all of the pie, it's at that point where people are hanging on a minute, there's none left.
And what's trying to happen now?
And there's so many things that it can no longer be coincidence.
Yeah, there's a point where there's a plausible liability, but And the other thing that's really important to understand is this, this perimeter control.
So people can't understand why certain people act in the way they are, but it's, I think your father did a really good job of explaining it.
It's that web.
So each compartment only knows what's going on in it and then higher and higher up the chain.
So the counselor is going to be really just doing what he's told to get his salary and then his boss the same and the same and the same.
And it goes very high up before someone really knows why they're setting the policies they're setting.
Absolutely.
And to be honest, you know, we've been talking about this psychological war that's been going on for a very long time.
People have become aware of it during the sort of, I say the four years of Rona, because to me it's not over.
The psychological fallout of it and the vaccine injuries and everything else is still ongoing.
Plus they keep trying to rebrand things left, right and centre.
It became so obvious to people then, didn't it?
That actually, I can see it, I can touch it, I can taste it now.
This is real manipulation.
That I'm being gaslit, I'm following arrows around Tesco's and all that sort of nonsense.
That actually there's more people waking up now to it.
Oh, massively.
You made such a good point there, because I actually, in 2005, who I'm sure you know wrote one of the books on the Federal Reserve, And I had a very sharp awakening to many things at that point.
But for about 15 years, it was impossible to talk to anyone.
But the last four or five years, there was huge amounts of scientists, academics, doctors, the public, from people from all walks of life that are going, hang on a minute, that's too much.
I now can't stay, you know, unaware of that.
And because of that, they've woke up, you know, so many sleeping lions.
Absolutely.
I hope so.
Sincerely hope you're right, David.
Thank you so much for joining us, and thank you for what you're doing as well, bringing people together, because that's what it's all about, is bringing people together.
One, because, like I said earlier, it's a numbers game, but also the world would just be a lot better if we got on, wouldn't it?
I know it sounds crazy, but it's true, isn't it?
Yeah, you're so right there.
There's actually really can I make an important point here is this one of their biggest weapons is divide and conquer.
And the way they do it is so eloquent at times that we've really got to just work together and this controlled opposition and shields.
I mean, there are they do exist for sure.
But not in the degree that everyone thinks they are.
It's more the fear of them and more the media pretending that people are, you know, corrupt, etc, that causes the problem.
So I think it's really important that we use discernment, and we don't just take things at face value.
We look into them slightly deeper.
And then those trolls will basically lose.
I mean, because I quite like debating the trolls online now, because they're so limited in their scope.
They just abuse you, try and make you get upset, and pretty much that's it.
They don't have much help.
No.
And if you refuse to buy, that's annoying for a minute.
It can be difficult to do though.
Every now and then, you know, I think, oh no, no, don't be silly.
In fact, it's my wife that keeps me in check.
She's like, are you getting annoyed?
No, I'm not.
I'm not biting.
Actually, because it's not, it's not always something you can consciously control.
Yeah.
So we got a bunch of videos and exercises where you can release those emotions and then they just, they just, it's like water off a duck's back for you.
Mate, that will make such a difference to people.
Because social media, particularly Twitter the way it is, can really get people down.
It can drive people bloody mad, to be honest.
And actually, that's just feeding the trolls.
It's giving the power away when actually just ignore them.
Swat them away like a fly.
Be done.
Absolutely.
It's built on a house of cards.
So there's one the other day just spouting the usual vaccine nonsense, and I just posted up a meme that said, vaccine scripture, thou shall not question a vaccine's efficacy or safety.
And literally, they just, they don't know what to do with that, because you're just pointing out they, it's coming from a, you know, from a religious book.
But yeah, they don't have much.
It's just really the abuse and a few other tactics.
Yeah.
Once they hit caps lock, they've lost for me.
That's the end.
Yeah.
That's the towel being chucked in.
Anyway, David, thank you so much for joining us and I hope to speak to you again in the future.
Brilliant.
Thank you, Gareth.
And, you know, thank you again for the work you guys are doing.
I follow you and yeah, there's people working together.
We're going to get it done.
Amen.
I will drink to that.
Take care, mate.
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