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Agenda 21 Is Here - David Icke
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From time loops to reptilian overlords, the impact that today's guest has had on the collective consciousness is monumental.
Joining us here on the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast for the first time, David Icke.
Author, speaker, and leader in the truth community.
I'm Mystic Mark. Joining me today is my guest co-host, Ron, of the Wicked Planet podcast.
Now enjoy this episode of the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast with David Icke.
Aware enough to just about function in the human world or aware enough to see what this human world actually is and how it works and where it's going.
And the idea of the cult is to hold people, hold people in a sense of self-identity.
That is basically the human five senses.
Well, can I see it, touch it, taste it, hear it, etc.?
Then it exists, but it doesn't.
And so if you can pull people into only basically five sense sense of reality, you are pulling them deeply into the realm of limitation.
The perception of I can't, the perception of it's not possible.
And thus, that's where you want them, because from that perspective, you can make them believe anything, you can make them do anything.
They are no problem to your agenda.
The little me mentality.
What can I do? I have no power.
The idea of the cult, psychologically, is to get you to self-identify your I, who you are, with those labels.
Because that's going to pull you into the realm of limitation, and you're playing in their stadium there.
Got you. It's a very simple mathematical equation.
Look at the number of people in the world closing on 8 billion.
And then look at the number of people with full knowledge who are behind the way the world is, the directions being taken.
Then add to that number all the law enforcement, all the government officials in their dark suits imposing the will of the cult, without most of them even knowing there is a cult, all the others in the system.
Add all them in and then take that number away from 8 billion.
And you'll be left with almost 8 billion in comparison.
Because the number of people both in full knowledge of what they're doing and those that are gophers, most of them not knowing why they're doing it, is tiny compared with the population.
So it's a simple question.
How could billions of people be forced into lockdown by that number?
How could billions of people be forced into lockdown by that number?
But, you know, David, I gotta say, I couldn't think of a better person to have on the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast, because when you came out...
With your awakening, it wasn't just your family, it was a whole country that thought you were crazy, right?
So I want to, if you can, take us back to when this all started.
We'll get rolling right now.
Okay. Well, I was born in the East Midlands of England in 1952, and I wanted to be a footballer, and I became one, but then arthritis finished that when I was 21.
And I became a journalist, a newspaper journalist, a radio journalist, and then a television journalist.
And then I moved into presenting television sport.
And after a while in the 1980s, I've really lost interest in the media, in the mainstream media.
I thought it was a very vacuous world and a very cutthroat one.
They used to say about the BBC, they get so confused they stab each other in the chest.
So I started looking elsewhere in terms of my interest.
I was very concerned at the time about not the global warming so much as the whole destruction of the environment and pollution, genuine pollution, not carbon dioxide.
And so I... I got involved with the Green Party.
I became a national spokesman for the Green Party for a while.
And I got disillusioned with that because I saw politics from the inside.
All this was building towards where I was going.
It was an absolutely essential background I was picking up, although I didn't know where I was going at the time.
And I realized that politics was not the answer.
It was the problem. And it doesn't matter what the rosette may be or the colour of it may be.
It doesn't matter what the name of the door may be.
They basically all operate the same way.
And then I went through...
An extraordinary awakening, you may say, in 1990-91.
So that's a long story, but basically the top of my head blew off.
And it's like you're living in a bubble.
A bubble of reality, a bubble of perception, a bubble of self-identity.
And then someone comes along and bursts it.
They don't tell you they're going to burst it.
And they don't do it slowly, they do it instantly.
And so I went through three months of just phenomenal transition from the perception I had before to the perception I was gathering.
And being well known in Britain, In that three months where this enormous transition was taking place, I went on the biggest audience talk show in Britain at the time called The Wogan Show.
1991 it was.
And that triggered just the most historic levels of ridicule that almost anyone could have experienced with such intensity.
I couldn't go anywhere without being laughed down the street.
I mean, anywhere. But, you know, with hindsight, it gave me something.
It gave me a gift, because worst nightmares often give us our greatest gifts.
And that was, I had a choice.
I could go under, or I could let go of the prison that most people live in, which is the fear of what other people think.
I chose the latter because I'm a stubborn bastard.
And so it set me free of this concern with how other people see me.
Now, I didn't know at the time, but it was going to be essential that, because if you care about what other people think about you and how they see you and what your, quote, image is, then you're not going to come out with a lot of stuff that I've come out with since.
You're going to keep well out of that, because you know.
I just have to smile sometimes when...
People have said to me over the years, didn't you know when you said this and said that and said the other that you were going to get ridiculed?
Actually, I had worked that out, funnily enough.
But once you let go of that fear of what other people think...
It frees you to pursue the truth for the truth's sake.
Not even being attached to what the truth is, but just finding out what the heck it is and what's going on and why.
And all these different things that were happening, including the mass ridicule, while it was horrible, it was horrible for my kids, it was horrible for my family.
They were, you know, ridiculed at school.
And so on. It actually has set us all free in a way because my two boys are very much involved in this now and have been for some years.
And, you know, Gareth in particular was a little boy when this horrific historic level of ridicule was going on.
So he saw it firsthand.
Yeah, you know, Gareth and Richard, the work that they do together is phenomenal.
I mean, I'm just a really big fan, and I see that they're actually coming out with several new shows, right?
I mean, Rich has the glitch in the code, and then they got the WTAF. And then they're just coming out with Across the Pond.
And I know Gareth is going to be super busy with Iconic because that's taken off, right, David?
I mean, that's just amazing what you can go on Iconic and see that's virtually banned everywhere else.
And that's what's really impressive that they've kind of joined you and moved along with this.
Because, you know, we all get ridiculed for what we say.
Obviously, I've been a fan of yours for many years.
Watch your show on Gaia Television.
And to follow a lot of your work and to see how people have ridiculed you.
But, you know, as you said, you kind of had to expect that, but you've worked that out, right?
So now at this point, at this point in the conspiracy field, we consider you like the godfather of the conspiracy world.
We're very honored to have you come on.
I want to second that.
Thank you, Ron, for saying that.
And David, thank you so much for retelling that.
Because here on the My Family Thinks I'm Crazy podcast, I hope that people listen wherever they are in the world and they can take some solace in the fact that they're not alone.
Because that ridicule that you felt on a nationwide, even a global level, I think a lot of people have been experiencing, particularly in the past two years, those of us who are open-minded, those of us who question the narrative and aren't willing to go along with wearing a face diaper.
But clearly you were well prepared for the past two years.
Did you see it coming at all?
I mean, could you have expected that they would take us to these depths of fascism through the medical, this sort of medical Trojan horse of sorts?
Oh, absolutely.
Because, you know, people have said, how did you predict the future?
And I say I didn't.
What I did was spend decades uncovering what the projected agenda for the world was by what I call this global cult, this global network of interconnecting centrally controlled, ultimately, secret societies.
And it's a simple thing that if there is an agenda for the world, And nothing intervenes to change that agenda.
Well, that agenda becomes the future, what we call the future.
So I've not predicted the future.
I've predicted where this cult wants the world to go, where it's manipulating the world to go.
And when I have this phrase, know the outcome and you'll see the journey, And if you know what the outcome is planned to be, which is this centrally controlled global fascist dictatorship beyond Orwellian, where the world, including the human mind, is controlled by artificial intelligence, that's where it's all supposed to head and finish up, then you start to see the progress or the process to that end.
And so what appears to the general population who haven't researched this as random events, things just happen out of nowhere, to you become very clear steps towards that outcome.
And so you've seen in recent days how the COVID era has become the Ukraine era.
And it's basically been a progression.
And they'll bring the pandemic stuff back for sure.
I mean, because of the nature of the potential for transforming human society of what they call pandemics.
So once this thing started to appear in China in late 2019, I could see immediately the potential for pushing on towards this outcome.
And so I didn't jump in immediately.
I don't like to do that.
I like to sit and watch and observe.
By the early weeks of 2020, it was clear that potential was enormous, and the information was coming out about all the preparations for it, like Event 201 and so on, with Gates and Schwab, etc. And so it was obvious, because do things happen They don't plan and they ride the back of them to advance the agenda.
Yes, absolutely that happens.
But the major, this has been my experience anyway over 30 years, the major society changing agenda advancing situations are not random, which they ride the back of.
They're planned and they are orchestrated.
And so very early on in 2020, it was very clear that this was going to be a massive push to get closer and closer to this Orwellian outcome or beyond Orwellian outcome.
And that's how it turned out.
And so once you know that that's the goal, you start to see the elements within it very clearly.
One of the things I've been pointing out for decades is that the plan is to create a structure in this Orwellian global state that I call the Hunger Games Society, where you have the tiny few at the top of the pyramid dictating to everyone else at the bottom of the pyramid.
Through dependency, you make the population dependent on those few.
And then in between the two, you impose a vicious police state, actually a police-military state ultimately, the fusion of the two is the plan, to impose the will of the less than 1% upon the population and to stop the population rebelling against the 1%.
So a massive advancement toward goal, that structure, was lockdown.
Because if you're going to create a dependency of the population upon the few, then you have to delete independent sources of livelihood.
You have to destroy independent businesses.
Because while they exist, you don't have the dependency that leads to the control you want.
So they've got to go. And so soon as they started talking about lockdown, I could see that this is the game.
This is about destroying people economically.
It's nothing to do with health.
And so then when Professor Neil Ferguson came out, absolutely at exactly the right time, the Gates funded Ferguson in London and the Gates funded Imperial College in London with these computer models completely bloody made up.
To say there's going to be all these people dying in Britain, all these people dying in America and other countries, if you don't lock down, all the pieces immediately in the spring of 2020 were coming together so fast in my mind.
And they couldn't justify lockdown So they do a projection of what will happen if you don't lock down.
And I was sent an email, a very long and detailed email, written by an American medical scientist in March 2020, that kind of laid out a lot of it, how they were going to use the PCR test to scan the cases.
How they were going to take the most extreme of flu cases and they were going to call them COVID-19.
And because they took the extreme of the flu cases, more people were going to die from extreme flu than would across the whole area of people getting flu.
So you take the extreme cases, you're going to get more deaths from flu.
But you've redesignated it COVID-19, so now you're saying, hold on a minute, COVID-19 is more deadly than the flu.
And this was all kind of explained to me in March 2020.
And then when you realize the PCR test is not testing for an infectious disease, the whole scam starts to come together.
And, you know, you can look at the last two years and you can get angry and that's understandable and you can get frustrated and that's understandable.
But another way of doing it is just to shake your bloody head.
And realize how blatant the whole thing is if people bother to do the research.
But if they don't, well, what happened will happen.
Right. And that was part of the problem over here in the United States is when this was all starting to come down, it was just amazing to me how easily everybody fell into the narrative.
I mean, with the exception of a lot of people in our podcasting circle, but...
They just went along with everything.
And as you say, it's designed to get rid of small business.
I'm a small business owner.
I have to say it didn't really affect me because my business was deemed essential by the state of New Hampshire.
And if you had an essential business, well, then you didn't have to close down.
You just had to follow these COVID protocols, which we did none of that.
None of that. But people fell into line so easy, and I think what was happening was not enough people were getting sick.
So this is when they come out with this PCR test that even the inventor, Kerry Mullis, is like, okay, this test is not designed to do this, and you know he was no fan of Fauci, like, whatsoever.
No. And then when we start telling people, okay, go check out Event 201 because this is how they laid this whole thing out.
And people still wouldn't believe you.
And this is the part where you say it's frustrating.
You can shake your head all day, but you still want to get this information out there, right?
Yeah, you do.
But for your own emotional state, I think we need to take a step back.
And do the work and do everything you can to get the information out there.
I mean, I work seven days a week, every week, just incessant.
Not to get pulled in to the frustration and the anger and the fury, because that will just drain you and make you less effective.
I mean, the passion to do it should be in there anyway, without the need for, you know...
Anger and what have you.
So everyone responds to these things the way they do.
And we're all individual, thank goodness.
And we're all unique. But that's the way I work.
Don't get angry, get even, I think the phrase is.
Right, right. Don't get angry, get the information out there.
But what you're talking about, you see, is the whole foundation of human control and that's
You control perception, you control behavior, you control behavior collectively, you control human society.
perception.
And the greatest way of controlling behavior, perception, is to get people in fear.
This is why pandemics are so absolutely perfect for what this cult wants to do in its transformation of human society.
So it's a long story.
There are many elements to it.
A lot of elements as well, but elements to it.
But basically, it's this.
If you can keep the population in ignorance...
Of life, reality, how it works, who we are, where we are, where we come from.
Then you put people in a little bubble of ignorance.
But what you're also doing is creating an enormous amount, far more than is necessary, of unknowns.
So, so much to the population is unknown.
And it's absolutely symbolic and systematic because the education system, you look in America, the Rockefellers were behind that, J.D. Rockefeller, etc.
And it's the same around the world.
It's about keeping people in ignorance, calling it education when it's really indoctrination.
And so you've got this enormous amount of unknowns.
Like, who are we?
Where are we?
What is this place?
Where do we come from?
Where do we go? Do we go anywhere?
And people are instinctively fearful of the unknown.
And the more unknown you can give them, the more reasons they have to fear.
And the most powerful...
of the unknowns to people is death.
What happens at death?
Where do we go?
Do we go anywhere again?
And so if you fear death because it's the ultimate unknown to most people,
then you make surviving for as long as possible, under any bloody circumstances basically,
the goal of enormous numbers of people.
Right. The number one priority over everything.
Yeah. Once you prime that, once you've caught the gun on that,
then you can play it like a stringed instrument.
Because now you are introducing an alleged pandemic.
You're telling people there's a deadly virus.
You're telling people that their loved ones are in danger.
Indeed, you could put your loved ones in danger.
You are in danger.
And you've got one of the great, increasingly the greatest cult operation in the world, and that's China and the Chinese government doing the stage shows.
Of people falling and collapsing in the street, all prelims for this attack on the West.
And then you need a Western example to up the fear so it's not just far, far away in China.
Look, it's happening in Italy.
It could happen in Italy.
It could happen to us in America and in Britain and France and Canada.
And so you had this so-called COVID crisis in northern Italy, which shut down the whole country, of course.
Coincidentally, a week after they had the hug a Chinese person holiday as well.
I think you remember that one.
Yeah, but it was also the fact, and it's always with hindsight, that these things come out.
Hindsight in the sense that the authorities are not going to admit it at the time, but once the deal is done and the reason for it is gone, then they might start admitting a few things, like they are doing here, the mass didn't work, and then this didn't work, and this may be not such a good idea, but it doesn't matter because the deal's already done.
So what you had in Italy was all these death certificate actually died of COVID and you know I
would seriously question that too.
So you had this whole stage show going on in China for the world, all orchestrated.
And crucial at that first point in China was to establish draconian lockdown as the means
of response.
This is why this guy Ted Ross at the World Health Organization, a gate appointee, absolute
crook, corrupt to his DNA, announced very early on that the way that China has handled
the quote crisis is the way that everyone else should do.
Gates said something similar.
And so when we moved to Italy and the first real big crisis in the West in the COVID era, the Italian government did a China.
They locked down the whole bloody country.
And so when the whole hoax started moving into other Western countries, the response was already in place.
But like I said earlier, the number of people who were dying in the spring of 2020 We're not sufficient to justify this is a deadly virus, etc., etc.
So you had the computer models predicting what's going to happen unless we lock down.
And so they got their lockdowns.
And both sides of the Atlantic, they did something else.
In Britain, because they didn't have the deadly virus, they used the computer models to project it.
This is what's going to happen. Of course, it didn't.
But they also needed, to not put too fine a point on it, they needed dead people.
To push this fear of death, this fear of this virus, which was going to get people to meekly go under lockdown in fear of what will happen if they don't.
And to turn on everyone else who was seeing through it by saying, you're putting everyone in danger.
This is all the psychology.
The whole thing's been a psychological operation.
The whole agenda is a psychological operation.
So the health secretary in Britain, called Matt Hancock, At the time, he ordered, this is all provable with the data, by the way, documentation.
He ordered unprecedented amounts of an end-of-life drug called midazolam, which is used in conjunction with morphine as an end-of-life drug and a sedative as people are dying.
And by some American states, it's used in the midazolam in the execution process.
And so, not only did he order vast amounts of this stuff, He then used it, or saw the use of it, in the spring of 2020 in unprecedented amounts.
All this is documentable.
It's all there in the record.
And so at the same time that they were then giving this midazolam drug to enormous, no, thousands and thousands of old people in British care homes, they, oh, because of COVID, their relatives couldn't visit them.
So no one was watching their back.
There's no one there. No loved ones could come.
Same thing here, David.
Same exact thing here.
Exactly, exactly right.
And that's Fauci and that's Remdesivir, another drug that they use.
Governor of New York, a close friend of ours, lost his mother to Remdesivir very sadly.
You know, shouted with the doctor about it and they wouldn't budge.
Well, they're starting to use, well, they have been using remdesivir here as well, I mean, despite the American experience, which is extraordinary and just shows you this is not just stupidity, there's lots of stupid doctors, but this is not just stupidity, this is called calculation.
So, what they were looking for in this, because one of the hardest things to have got across in the last 30 years is the level and scale of evil we're dealing with.
These people have no empathy, no compassion, they have no emotional consequence no matter what they do.
And one of the biggest, going back to what you said about families and stuff and people saying, oh, you know, that can't be happening, the biggest problems you have with that Is people literally cannot get their heads around the scale of evil that we're dealing with and therefore they judge what others would do by what they would do and they say they would never do that.
The fact is, they would not only do it, they'd get off on doing it.
It gives them a buzz.
This is the scale of evil that we're dealing with.
So they needed the first wave of COVID. They needed it in America, and they needed it in Britain.
the first wave of COVID.
It wasn't the first wave of COVID at all.
It was the first wave of Dazlam.
And in America, Fauci, and this is again documentable, Fauci absolutely had the studies showing
that if you give people Remdesivir, there is a heck of a good chance
they're gonna go into multiple organ failure, particularly the kidneys.
And the abdominal cavity is gonna fill up with water and the lungs are gonna fill up with water.
And they called that COVID-19.
And they called the midazolam deaths COVID-19.
Because all you had to do and all you have to do to be designated a COVID patient is to test positive with a test that's not testing for it.
So you can see all these different elements, and it was all in place long before, to play out, have created the illusion Of a deadly virus that's simply not there.
And then you realize the scale of preparation and the way this has been planned in such detail for so long.
When you then go to the World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab and you see the people that have gone through his school, his young leader's school over the years, That have been in positions, in key positions to power around the world in this same era that all this was going on.
Whether it's Trudeau in Canada, Ardern in New Zealand, Morrison in Australia, Macron in France, all over the place.
And you realize the scale of preparation that's gone on because it's such...
It's such an incredibly powerful and effective vehicle for advancing this agenda of the Hunger Games Society that I talked about.
Right. Now, David, I've heard you talk about consciousness in the past and how the manipulation of our mind really rests on the fact that we're living in a conscious world.
And as you put earlier in our conversation, they depend on our ignorance, the vast sea of unknown.
We have certain theorists have claimed that, well, What's happening right now in the past 20 years with COVID and the wars, it feels like we're on a cycle.
You look at the early 1900s, you look at the early 1800s, there seems to be a theme of these pandemics.
Do you find any merit to that argument that maybe these elites are playing into some sort of esoteric cycle that is constantly spinning and they're just tapping into it?
Well, I think they're creating it as well.
Because of this fear of death being so central to the human psyche, they're playing on it all the time.
Fear of death, fear of war, fear of nuclear war.
What is that? It's fear of death.
They're playing on that now in another way.
Big time. So, you know, it's all psychological because, like I said earlier, all behavior comes from the perception of the person behaving.
So if you can control perception, you control behavior, and the collective behavior of the human race is called human society.
And this is the real foundation of the censorship.
This hysterical censorship is about Not just telling people what to believe, what to perceive, what perceptions to have.
You can do that.
But it's also to deny them access to other information that might lead to different perceptions.
So what you've had, and it started to affect me immediately, as soon as I started challenging this stuff in the sprint of 2020, I was off everywhere.
Because if you're going to program someone's perception, which is what this is all about, Then you don't want alternative information that might give people another perception.
You want to get rid of that.
And so what we've seen, again, this progression, this stepping stone, is more and more and more censorship.
And we're about to enter another massive stage of it.
And what they are doing, they're doing it in Britain through something called the Online Safety Bill, but it's happening in Canada, and it's happening in Australia, and it's happening all over, is they're using this concept of harm, not is something true or not.
But is something potentially harmful?
So, for instance, this online safety bill, which is going through Parliament now, which will give a government broadcast regulator, a totally fascist organization created by Tony Blair in 2001, called Ofcom, the Office of Communications, the power to delete from the Internet on the basis of if you don't, you'll get crippling fines or even jail time.
Things that are legal and lawful, but are considered by Ofcom to be potentially harmful.
So what you could say in the street becomes deleted from the internet.
Because Ofcom says so.
And like I say, other countries like Canada, you would expect Canada with Trudeau, are pushing something similar.
So the idea is that, and I've said this way back, that the plan is that eventually no one will see or hear anything that is not sanctioned by authority.
And that means, of course, that It will create total control.
Of the information that people receive, and where do we get our perceptions from?
Information that we receive.
And so this is meant to get more and more extreme until that point is reached.
And so when they say, as they of course have, well, if you don't like being censored by an independent company like Facebook or Twitter, yeah, independent, I love it, then start your own.
So people have.
Necessity is the mother of invention.
Some great, great platforms have been created to overcome this censorship.
But what do they allow?
Information that challenges the official narrative.
Cool. Can't have that.
And that's where these various pieces of legislation are coming in, like the online safety bill, to say to these independent platforms, You take that down or we'll destroy you with fines and jail time.
And so that's where it's going.
And people need to realize that where we are is not where it's planned to stay.
It's meant to move on and get more and more extreme.
David, don't you feel that we're just in a little lull right now?
Because I think that this is just...
Like all of a sudden, overnight, you have...
Boris Johnson dropping mask mandates, dropping vaccine mandates.
Same thing here in the United States.
Trudeau, which I keep an eye on because where I live, I'm only like three hours from the Quebec border.
So now all of a sudden he drops his Emergency Powers Act, and you see all these things happening.
It seems like, I mean, it's not overnight, but overnight, basically.
Now all this stuff is going away.
Now our kids in school, there's no mask mandates for the kids in school.
Even the transportation mask mandate's been dropped ahead of time.
And of course, in the United States, we believe that that's because the midterm elections are coming up.
And the Democrats know they are running scared on this.
But what do you think was the situation over there in the UK? And I mean, we understand why things are bad in the UK, New Zealand, Australia, and Canada, because aren't these countries still under the rule of the crown?
Yeah, but the crown is the cult.
It's a vehicle for the cult.
And this is why these lockdowns are so bad in these countries, though.
Yeah, but... You have to get a look at the psychology of it.
You know, if you, for instance, put people in a bad situation, what they'll tend to do eventually is kind of come to terms with it.
And you kind of go on and you don't like it, but you've kind of found an equilibrium with it, living with it.
It's another psychological thing to roll it all back.
And say, oh no, it's gone now.
And people go, thank God for that.
And then you kick it back in again.
The psychological impact of the kicking back in and it all starting again is a massive blow to the psyche.
And they are definitely going to try to bring this back in again at some point.
It almost feels like a summer break due to kids here in the States where you get three months off of school and then September comes around and that dreaded school bell starts ringing every day again.
Yeah, I mean, Fauci's actually said a few things, hasn't he?
I mean, he's just appeared from, you know, he's disappearing.
He's disappeared. From his cave.
Just recently.
Just recently, yeah.
Yeah, so I mean, and you know, then you've got this thing in China that's going on and
more lockdowns. China is totally cult-owned. The Mao Revolution was a cult revolution,
and it was for this reason. They wanted to create a closed society in China, totally controlled,
within which they could incubate the system they wanted to play out globally. Now in the West,
well, until the COVID era, they had to pay some kind of lip service to freedom and what have you,
so they could move slower than in China, where what the government said happened. And so what
China have developed, the social credit system, the incredible level of surveillance, the millions
of cameras in every city, they've created this cult global society control system.
And if you look at what's happened since the COVID hoax was played, the West has become more and more like China.
Created the blueprint. So then look at something else.
All these connect.
Over the last few decades, against all the interests of American people, American workers,
the corporations with government support have been moving their production to China and
the East, controlled by China.
And thus they've given China, they've handed China control of the supply chain.
So what's happening now with the phenomenal rise in fuel prices and gas prices is that
all the prices of everything are being hit, plus the fact that middlemen and what have
you are using that as an excuse to add even more to it than they need to.
So the prices are going through the roof.
And as you affect the supply chain, obviously if things aren't as available as they were
or usually, the price goes up.
So everything is...
I think this is about crushing people and bringing them down into the Hunger Games society of dependency on the few.
This is absolutely happening in front of our eyes, what I've been talking about these decades.
So China now, in alliance with Russia, has energy supplies...
And together they can operate as one alliance, economically as well as militarily.
And I've been saying for years and years, the idea is to push China and Russia together in an alliance, militarily and economically, which what is happening now is absolutely doing very quickly.
And so when you look at what is happening in China, for instance, you can say, oh, it's another COVID crisis.
But actually it's locking down tens and tens of millions of people.
It's locking down factories, and it's locking down supply chains.
So the supply chain is being hit again.
And China doesn't have to come out and say, oh, we're just going to cut the supply chain.
Look what we're doing. It's, well, you know, we've got a choice.
We've got to deal with COVID. So it's all theater.
And the idea, I've been saying this for so long, is to dismantle Western society.
in terms of the way it's run and the way it's controlled.
So suddenly lots and lots of dots come together.
Why is it that American governments, the Biden one now is a classic,
are making decisions that are increasing dramatically the price of energy, not least shutting pipelines down
and stopping investment in carbon fuels.
Why would they do that to the massive detriment of American people?
Why would successive administrations allow this movement of production from America, in many cases essential supplies, to China?
Why have they made successive decisions to benefit China at the expense of America?
Europe, too, has done the same.
Because the cult controls the American administration, it controls the British administration, the French administration, the Canadian administration, it controls China.
So this is where the pennies drop when you realize that this cult has no borders.
The borders are for the public consumption.
To the cult, China is the United States.
The United States is Russia, is Europe.
And in this destruction of Of Western society is the massive movement of people into Western countries.
This is why Biden has opened the southern border of the United States.
Wide open. He's opened it, well, opened it for a number of reasons.
I say he has, people controlling.
First of all, you're changing the demographics of America.
I mean, the numbers are phenomenal.
But you're also doing something else.
And this brings other dots in, like George Soros's...
Funding of district attorneys who then stop prosecuting crime and let violent people out, like Gascon in Los Angeles.
This is all connected because part of destroying Western society, American society, is the breakdown of all coherence.
So what you want coming across the southern border are these psychopathic, beyond psychopathic drug gangs and crime syndicate gangs.
And you also want drugs coming into America to destroy American societies like fentanyl through the Mexican drug cartels.
What's the biggest center of fentanyl production?
Wuhan, China!
Wuhan, China!
So, again, this is a cult via China attack on American society to break it down.
And this is another thing, because it's all psychological.
I mean, once the penny drops, the psyche is the goal.
That's the target, the psyche, because everything comes from that.
This is why a senile moron I mean, they could have got someone, possibly, into power, they sold them well enough, who would be all up for what this cult is doing, and would be making decisions and what have you, and everything that Biden's doing, or what's being done in Biden's name...
Could have been done by someone else who, while being perceived as not doing the right thing by America, would be seen as some form of intelligent bloke or intelligent woman.
So why have they brought an obviously senile...
Moron and put him in the presidency.
It's psychological.
One, they're saying to you, subconsciously and consciously, we can put anyone in the White House we like.
And secondly, here you have the proud nation that's proud of its country.
Well, if they're not woke, they're proud of their country.
Now they're looking at a country...
That's got a moron that's being laughed at around the world as the President of the United States.
A man who can hardly anymore even read a teleprompter.
And so this is the key, and it goes back into the psyche.
It's breaking the spirit of America.
That's what it's about.
This is what happened on January the 6th was all about.
In Washington, and the aftermath, and the absolutely extraordinary extremes to which those people have been subjected, kept in prison, a horrible, horrible prison in Washington, all this time since.
It's because they're saying to those that want to push back, this is what happens if you take us on.
And it's again trying to break the spirit so people become subservient and think there's nothing we can do.
It's all psychological.
I'm sorry, David.
One thing that I think is a little bit of a saving grace here in the United States is that there is millions and millions of us.
We're a country of over 320 million people.
Now, Biden allegedly got 80 million votes, which we know that that's not true.
So there's a huge faction of pretty hardcore patriots in this country.
And you know, of course, we're allowed to have firearms here and all kinds of them.
So, you know, I don't think their spirit is broken.
I mean, we do have a frustration level, of course.
But, you know, it's like we knew that this was going to happen on election night.
That Biden was going to get it.
I mean, how can this guy sit in his cellar?
Like you say, you can't even read a teleprompter now.
In Kamala Harris, she has no, like, zero...
Zero breaks to be doing her job.
But that's another thing you see.
That's another part of the psychology.
They've not just got a moron into presidency.
They've got a moron into vice presidency.
The whole of the White House is controlled in terms of official office.
By moronic people, vacuous and deeply corrupt people.
So it's fantastic that people's, what you say, that people's spirit is not being broken.
What I'm saying is that's the idea, to break that spirit.
And one massive way to do that is to...
Make people unable to survive economically.
It's all about breaking the spirit and bringing you into subservience.
And this is what the guaranteed income is all about.
It's being trialed in some American cities.
It's being trialed in other places around the world.
It's not being trialed.
It's planned to be brought in because it's a means of control.
The idea, going back to what I said earlier, is to destroy independent income.
Independent from the cult system and the cult corporation.
And once that's gone, then how are you going to put food on the table?
How are you going to survive?
Because this economic mayhem and Armageddon.
So the idea is they come forward and they say, we're going to give people a guaranteed income so that they can survive.
And of course you've got the jobs disappearing all the time because of AI taking them over.
But obviously it's going to come with a rider.
And the rider is you can get your guaranteed income, which will be a pittance, but only if you do what you're told.
You want to push back against the government?
You want to criticize the government? Well, you're not getting that.
You're not getting anything. That's why they want to go cashless, so that they can control that.
Absolutely, and I'm so glad you brought that point up, Ron, because I know, David, your time is short, and I want to end on the point of solutions.
Obviously, we have a lot of gun-toting, patriotic people here in the States, but it's pretty obvious that they've taken this war to a psychological and an interlocal What do you recommend folks do?
Well, that's a real deep answer, really, which would take quite a long time to go into the real depth of it.
But if you look at the woke mentality, which has all been created by this cult, it's all funded by the billionaires, it's targeting men, it's targeting testosterone, it's targeting people who stand up.
Whereas in China, They're emphasizing that that's what has to happen.
Men have to be men, as the old saying goes.
So even on that level, not even on that level, it's massively part of it, they are dismantling the American psyche and churning out.
See, we talked earlier about people in fear, fear being the currency of control.
I mean, you get people in fear, then they'll look to someone outside of themselves to protect them for what they fear.
That's the whole idea. But you look at the woke mentality, it's all based on fear.
They're frightened of their own shadow.
So, of course, the woke mentality is behind pushing the climate change hoax, because the climate change hoax, they believe in their ignorance, is a threat to their survival.
The same people who are the climate changers, with no evidence...
They're the ones that were the COVID extremists.
Why? Because COVID, it's a danger to my survival.
Woke is a created mentality.
I think it's personally a form of mental illness, manufactured mental illness.
Which is all based on fear of not surviving.
And fear of anything, really.
And so, again, you've got this swimmer, this male-bodied swimmer that's taking all these women's records.
And again, what they're doing is dismantling society.
Even on the level of identity.
Particularly on the level of identity.
So... Women are being targeted now, as I said they would be when they were targeting men and toxic masculinity.
I said, they're going to come for the women next.
Why? Because what we're witnessing is not just the transformation of human society.
We're witnessing the transformation of the human body.
I've been, again, writing about this for a hell of a long time.
When you look at...
1984 by George Orwell, Eric Blair, as he was really called, and you look at Brave New World, these people weren't coming totally from their imagination.
I mean, they had access to these inner networks.
I'm not saying that Orwell was one of them.
I'm not saying that, but he had access to it.
He understood where this was going.
Huxley absolutely understood where it was going.
And so what Huxley described in...
1932 in Brave New World was the non-procreating human, where humans were brought up in what he called world state hatcheries, and there was no more human parental procreation, it was done technologically.
The sort of technology that he was describing, in apparently kind of a science fiction type, if you like, setting, apparently, apparently, it's now coming online.
It's now being introduced.
You're now seeing stories.
I saw one the other day. Oh, well, we've now found that these technological wombs are actually better than a woman's womb.
What? You see where it's going.
And so... They're moving from human 1.0 to human 2.0, which is eventually meant to be a non-procreating human, and therefore they don't need men, and they don't need women.
And that's why they're targeting both.
Now, then you look, and you can always tell...
Where this is going by a number of things, who you can't criticize, what you can't criticize, and who's at the top at any point in the political correct pyramid of hierarchy.
And of course, right up there now, above women, certainly above men, are transgender.
Why transgender?
Why is transgender come out of nowhere and suddenly everywhere?
Because transgender...
What we're looking at, and these transgender activists have no idea.
I mean, you know, this cult and its billionaires that fund this stuff, they are laughing at them.
Anyone think George Soros could care less about...
Transgender rights or black people, he couldn't care less.
They're vehicles to an end to him and his life.
So what you're seeing is the transgender explosion being used to first confuse gender, which it's doing massively, on the road to fusing gender.
So I got news for the transgender activists This is not going to transgender.
This is going to no gender.
And you are just the bloody stooges.
And the idea is to create this highly, far more highly synthetic human 2.0, which would be much more connectable to the technological web and the smart grid and all this stuff.
And it would be procreated technologically, in the way, absolutely, that Huxley described, because he had access to where this was going.
And people might say, Hold on a minute.
1932? How could he know about this technology?
How could Orwell know about telescreens and all this stuff?
How can people I've quoted in my books from 1969, insiders, be talking about the bloody internet in 1969 and describing it actually as it is?
It's because we live in two worlds.
The world of the population, which is kept in total ignorance of everything apart from what it basically needs to function, and the world of the cult, and I'm talking the inner core of the cult, where this knowledge is passed over through the generations on the basis of initiation into those that are chosen to have it, particularly through certain families.
And so the difference between the cult world and the human world of the population is knowledge.
The knowledge of who we are, where we are, the nature of reality and how it works is hoarded in the inner core of the cult and kept from the population.
And so they have two completely different timelines of potentiality.
The potentiality of the population is perceived by where technology is in the public arena that people can see.
In the cult, the potentiality is far in advance of that.
So in 1932, in this cult world, they would have known about this technology they now plan out.
They would have known about all these things that are happening technologically.
They would know they were coming.
And so if you read the world of world state hatcheries, you'll see where this is supposed to go.
And this brings us to the COVID jab.
What are they putting into the bodies of people who have this jab?
Synthetic genetic material.
This is all part of the process.
All these dots connect.
So we can...
We can see this and where we need to go and how we can respond from this level of the human body, which is no more than a holographic illusion anyway.
And we can get pulled into self-identity with this world and self-identity with the labels of this world.
And we can see ourselves, therefore, in Incredibly limited terms.
Because if you take this as a concept, what is the ultimate I? It's not this.
This is a vehicle for the I. What is the I, ultimate I? It's consciousness.
It's a state of being aware.
The question then is, how aware?
Aware enough to just about function in the human world, or aware enough...
To see what this human world actually is and how it works and where it's going.
Those two perceptions are vastly different, therefore people's behavior and perceptions are obviously vastly different in terms of the way they see the world.
And the idea of the cult is to hold people, this is again coming into the censorship, hold people in a...
Sense of self-identity that is basically the human five senses.
Well, can I see it, touch it, taste it, hear it, etc.?
Then it exists.
If I can't, then it doesn't.
And so, if you can pull people into only basically five sense sense of reality, you are pulling them deeply into the realm of reality.
Limitation. The perception of I can't.
The perception of it's not possible.
And thus, that's where you want them, because from that perspective, you can make them believe anything, you can make them do anything.
They are no problem to your agenda.
The little me mentality.
What can I do? I have no power.
And so the idea is to get us to self-identify the I with the body and the labels of the body.
I am our man, I am our woman, I am our...
this income bracket, that income bracket, this religion, that religion, this sexuality, that sexuality.
They are experiences.
They are experiences which the true I consciousness is having, but the idea of the cult, again psychologically, is to get you to self-identify your I, who you are, with those labels, because that's going to pull you into the realm of limitation, and you're playing in their stadium then.
Gotcha. And if you look at the woke mentality, and it's important to do so because it's a...
It's a microcosm of where we're being taken.
What are they doing with self-identity?
You are consciousness.
You are all that is, has been, and ever can be having a brief experience called human.
And they want you to identify with human as being the I, okay?
But what they're doing with woke is they're subdividing and subdividing and subdividing and subdividing the previous labels.
So now you've got this list of letters, LBGT, getting longer and longer and longer and longer.
I mean, some of the list of letters some universities use in America, I mean, it's extraordinary.
And so what you've got with the woke mentality...
Is the self-identification of the eye with the fine detail of someone's sexuality.
You know, there's not even themes of sexuality in these letters anymore.
It's fine detail.
I don't want to know! Do what you like!
As long as everyone's happy, but I don't need to know that, thank you.
But what they're doing is they're subdividing.
They're creating a greater and greater minute eye Of people's sense of the eye.
And every time you go another step down, another step down, you're getting further and further and further from an influence of the true eye, which is consciousness.
And when we talk about, you know, an awakening going on, well, what is that?
It's people awakening from the five-sense prison cell.
That's what it is. Because if you look at the five senses...
The way they decode the world and the world they show us is one of things with empty space between.
Actually, there is no empty space.
It's energy. It's consciousness. But for the five senses decoding system, the frequencies that it can access and turn into a visual reality, there's empty space between the things.
So what does that mean? Everything is apart from everything else.
So if you want to divide and rule the population, then the five senses are the perfect place to do it because they're telling you that everything is apart from everything else.
If you realize that we're all an expression of one infinite state of consciousness, then suddenly you realize actually all these divisions between us.
And the labels that divide us are actually illusions.
They're just states of perception and states of...
Self-identity, illusory state self-identity.
And so you are looking, as people awaken, why, when they awaken from this five-sense prison cell, do they start to see the world differently?
Because they are coming out of the myopia, which only sees dots.
The five senses only sees dots.
Here's a dot, computer, here's a dot, it's a light, there's a dot, it's a window, empty space between them.
So it only sees dots.
It doesn't see patterns, it doesn't see pictures.
Expanded states of awareness see the pictures and the patterns.
And this is why as people awaken from the five senses, they start to see how things are connecting.
How this dot is actually just an expression of this pattern.
And so is this dot and that dot, which to the five senses appear to be completely random and unconnected, but to expanded states of awareness that sees the pictures and the patterns, suddenly you can see how it's all connected.
So unless you are in this more expanded, anyone could do it.
This is not, you know, superiority.
It's just our natural state where we should be.
As you expand your awareness out of just five sense reality and perception, That's when you start to see the conspiracy.
Because the conspiracy is a vast web, a vast pattern of interconnected organizations, people, and subjects.
But to the five senses, there is no pattern.
There's just individual people, individual corporations, individual organizations, and individual subjects.
So you know... This is another reason, as you talked about earlier, why so many people can't get the obvious.
Why can't they see it?
Well, they can't see it because they can't see it.
Their five senses won't see it.
All they'll see is dots and randomness.
It's as you awaken from the five senses and go deeper and deeper into the expanded states of consciousness.
That's when you see it.
And that's why they are seeking to keep the population in ignorance of everything.
So we stay in the state of five sense perceptual Alcatraz.
So the answer, and everything comes from that, Is to open your mind to a greater sense of reality and a greater sense of self.
Because as you do so, see, what you self-identify with is what you experience.
If you self-identify with the labels of the five senses, you will perceive, you will live, you will experience a world that seems to be random, unexplainable, bewildering, and everything is in and of itself.
That's your experience because of your...
Perception. But as you expand your awareness, suddenly, as you expand your awareness, and what are you doing?
You're expanding your self-identity.
You're going from, I am my five senses, I am my body, which will give you an experience of that level of perception, five senses.
You're going to, no, no.
That's my vehicle for experiencing this reality, which is just a very tiny band of frequencies.
I am the consciousness that is experiencing this reality.
And as your self-identity expands into a greater sense of self, so without doing anything as a matter of course, your consciousness will expand with your self-identity.
And suddenly you're seeing things you couldn't see before.
And you're capable of doing things that you weren't capable of doing before.
One of the things that happens when people start to awaken from the five-sense prison cell Is they started to notice synchronicity in their lives, where suddenly bits of luck turn up, and things happen just when you need them, and you think, oh, what's the chances of that?
Oh, fancy seeing you here!
Oh, what's the chances of that? These things start to happen because you are expanding into a greater, greater scale of awareness which you're interacting with, and thus that awareness, as it expands, as you expand into it, It's capable of manifesting what the five-cents prison is not capable of manifesting.
So this cult knows that.
I've gone into this in the books. It absolutely knows that.
And this other world and its imprisonment and suppression of knowledge, especially the knowledge of reality and the nature of the eye, is designed to stop us doing that.
Because it knows the moment people start to awaken, its game is over if it happens in enough numbers.
Because if you look at the last two years, it's people who have done that that have sussed it.
They've sussed it.
I can see what's happening.
It's all a scam. Those still have the face diapers on, right?
So the...
Suppression of knowledge, the suppression of increasingly of information, designed to suppress our sense of self and a sense of the true I. Because it knows, like I say, that once that dawns on people, once people remember the nature of the true self, consciousness, That which moves on eternally when this brief experience is over.
Once people do that, the game is up.
The only way this cult can control is by holding humanity in a smaller state of ignorance than it's in.
Because one of the biggest mistakes we can make As we survey the world, is to think that this cult is omnipotent and all-powerful.
No, it's not. It's actually full of insecurity.
It's terrified, actually, of being found out because it needs us, we don't need it, for reasons I go into in the books.
The point being that if you show me a control freak, I'll show you an insecure person.
Because secure people, they are quite at peace with states of flux.
They're quite at peace with outcomes that aren't callable.
They're quite at peace with not controlling everything.
Control freaks are not.
They have to control everything.
Why? Because they're insecure.
That's what control freaks are.
And this cult mentality goes under different names and different cultures, but they're talking about the same mentality.
Whether it's the Christian Satan or the Native American Wotico or the Gnostic Archons.
It doesn't matter. They're describing the same consciousness that is actually behind this cult.
And It's incredibly insecure.
And thus, it has to control everything to give it a sense of security.
That's why it is always seeking to control all sides in every situation so it can know the outcome.
It's terrified of outcomes it can't call.
Secure people are quite at peace with that, like I say.
And that's the difference. And so it itself, I'll call it Wetiko, the Native Americans call it that, This consciousness, this wotikal, this inverted, chaotic, evil consciousness, evil in the sense of absence of love, is itself in a very limited state of ignorance and intelligence.
Very limited. So the only way that it's being able to control humanity is by making humanity more ignorant than it is.
By putting humanity in a smaller box than it is.
So this is why it's set up in America via the Rockefellers, like I say.
This education system, it's an ignorant system.
It's not about education, it's about keeping people ignorant.
The media is about keeping people ignorant.
All communication that is mainstream is about keeping people ignorant and overwhelmingly keeping them ignorant of who they are, where they are, the nature of reality and how the world works.
So you put them in a box and you put them in a bigger box.
And that's the dynamic.
So when you look at the...
Classic symbol, or one of the classic symbols of this cult, which is the all-seeing eye.
It's perfect. It's an all-seeing eye.
Not two eyes, not third eyes, it's an all-seeing eye.
And it is a wonderful way of describing it, is in the kingdom of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.
So let's not fall for this, ladies and gentlemen of the world, that this cult and what's behind all this that's going on is super intelligent and super omnipotent and super powerful.
It's not. It's A, putting us in a box of ignorance smaller than it's in, so it's got that control.
And also, it's getting the population to give its power in the form of acquiescence to this cult.
And the central vehicle, the middleman, if you like, between giving your power away to the cult from the population is what we call authority.
So, people, the population give its power to authority, but authority is simply a vehicle for the cult.
So by giving power to authority, you're giving power to the cult.
And it's a very simple, if we're looking at ways forward, it's a very simple mathematical equation.
You don't even need a calculator. Look at the number of people in the world, closing in on 8 billion.
And then look at the number of people in full knowledge who are behind the way the world is and the direction it's being taken.
Then add to that number, which will be tiny.
Ultimately, you'll get them in one room if you go deep in them.
Add to that number all the law enforcement, all the government officials in their dark suits imposing the will of the cult, most of them even knowing there is a cult, all the others in the system.
Add all them in.
And then take that number away from 8 billion.
And you'll be left with almost 8 billion, comparatively.
Because the number of people, both in full knowledge of what they're doing, and those that are gophers, most of them not knowing why they're doing it, is tiny compared with the population.
So it's a simple question.
How could billions of people be forced into lockdown...
By that number. We've got a...
Let's take Scotland as an example.
We've got a tyrant in Scotland.
Actually, she's ludicrous.
Like all tyrants, she's ludicrous.
Hilarious. You know, a clown.
But all the way through the last two years, her name's Nicola Sturgeon.
She has said, this is what's happening.
And the vast majority of Scottish people have done it.
And we've got a moron beyond morons, almost beyond the world meaning moron, in Wales here, called Mark Drakeford.
And when he says in the last two years, this is what's going to happen, the great majority of people in Wales have done it.
The great majority of people in England, not so many, ratio-wise, but still a great majority, have done what this moronic man Johnson has told them.
And these psychopaths behind him are telling me what to do.
In America, how many are doing what a senile president is telling them to do?
You've got the whole state of Victoria in Australia.
Who's been told what to do by a psychopathic moron called Daniel Andrews, the Premier.
Another guy in France, Macron.
How can these few people...
Trudeau! How can these few people tell whole nations what's going to happen and a great majority of the nation do it?
In that question, you have the answer both to how we change this and why throughout known human history, no matter what era, no matter what culture, the few have always controlled the many.
It's because the many give their power to authority in the form of acquiescence.
And there's two groups.
There's one group, we all know them, Who just do what authority tells them because authority tells them.
They don't question anything.
They just do what they're told.
This authority, they must know what they're doing.
Well, look a bit deeper. You'll find they bloody don't.
And then you've got this other group that can see some of it and doesn't want to do what authority is telling them to do.
But they still do it because they fear not doing it.
And those two groups, those two mentalities, have been responsible for every single tyranny in history.
Because tyrannies are not brought in by tyrants.
They're brought in by the population acquiescing to tyrants.
There's never enough tyrants to do it.
And that leaves this other group Which are those that see it and won't cooperate with it.
And they have ended every tyranny in history.
And the same dynamic is there today.
And those who can see it have this responsibility not to cooperate.
I guess that's our job, though.
Yeah, it's not even taken to the streets, although that can be a portrayal of the public mood.
Nothing wrong with that. I've been on endless bloody freedom marches in London.
But It's not cooperating that takes their power away.
And cooperation is acquiescence.
So, if you take society, nationally and internationally, globally, to be a pyramid, and at the top of the pyramid is the inner core of this cult, which, like I say, if you go deep enough, you'll get them into one room.
And then, how does those few people impose their will on the entirety of the global population?
How do they do it? Well, it's a simple, simple process.
Imposition acquiescence.
Imposition acquiescence.
So, the few at the top...
Impose their will, their agenda, what they want to happen upon the level below them.
Who acquiesce to them and impose it on the level below them.
And you come down eventually and quite quickly, you're meeting levels of the pyramid hierarchy that no longer know there is an inner core or there is a cult.
But the process continues.
Higher level imposes on the lower level, the lower level acquiesces and imposes on the next level.
And this comes all the way down society.
This is why hierarchies are absolutely essential to what's happening, and has always happened.
You've come down to the population.
And if the population in general acquiesce at that point to that level of the hierarchy that's imposing upon them, which is governments, law enforcement, and government officials, and so on, then A circuit is completed between the tiny few at the top of the pyramid and the population, the whole population. And that circuit of imposition and acquiescence has allowed the agenda, the will of those tiny few at the top to be imposed on the entirety of the population.
And we saw that so clearly in the last two years.
Now, you know, I don't look for solutions to anything, because solutions tend to lead to more problems.
We're in search of more solutions.
What I look for is the cause of the problem.
Because a problem manifests because it has a cause.
And if you take the cause of the problem away, the problem must disappear.
Without a cause, it can't exist.
And the cause of human enslavement is human acquiescence to authority.
End that, it's over.
And the dynamic has been that government says and population does.
That has to change.
It has to be turned on its head.
So instead of the population responding to government, government has to respond to population.
A very different type of what we call government, too.
Not the hierarchical type that we have now.
But the government has to respond to the people.
And the government has to respond to the people when the people won't cooperate with the government.
So if someone comes out of the White House or Downing Street or wherever and says, we've had a meeting, we've had a discussion, and this is what's going to happen.
How many times did we hear that in the last two years?
This is what's going to happen.
Enough people say, we're not doing it.
No, we're not doing that. Don't be daft.
Where's the power?
It's unenforceable. But it's enforced, maybe enforced here and there by law enforcement, but overwhelmingly, it's enforced by the acquiescence of the population.
That has to stop.
And once it stops, government authority has to respond to the people.
Well, we can't make them do this, so what will they do?
Well, they will do this.
Oh, we better do that then.
And suddenly the will of the people becomes much more the dominating force than the will of the few controlling government.
But While the acquiescence continues, that dynamic can't change because the whole foundation of it is acquiescence to authority.
Brilliantly said. That's what we have to get rid of.
We have to stop that portion and get it out of the equation.
It's the only way we can do it.
And it looks like people like us and me and Mark and you, Mr.
Ike, We've got our work cut out for us, but we're going to keep going.
We have.
But, you know, if you've got a dam holding back a great body of water, it can be a very, very long time before any cracks appear in the dam.
But once the cracks appear, the dam can go very quickly.
Things can change very quickly.
Once the dynamic, in this case, the structure of the dam, human acquiescence, Is undermined.
The dam falls. And it can happen very, very quickly.
I mean, you know, we've seen in history how things have gone from here to here enormously fast once a certain critical mass critical point has been reached.
So, you know, I remain optimistic.
And like all of us, like you and all of us, we're going to keep going to the end.
Well, David, thank you so much.
I mean, I'm just honored to have you here, and, you know, I was very nervous about this, but you're such a brilliant orator that you just took us right through this, and I hope the audience follows up with you on Iconic.
You are connecting a lot of dots, and if folks want to see you connect the dots, they can go to Iconic.com every Saturday where you have the Dot Connector with David Icke.
Can you tell us a little bit about that and what else you're working on before you go?
Yeah, well, I said I work seven days a week, so there's a few things going on.
I've just finished a book, actually, today.
Fantastic....called The Trap, which will be out as soon as we can get it out.
Getting books out to America now from Britain is a bloody nightmare with the shipping delays, etc.
And the costs are going through the bloody roof.
But we'll do it.
We'll do it. So I've just finished that.
That's in production now.
And I am absolutely delighted with what my son Jamie has done in the last, not more than two years, which is create the iconic platform.
Because we could basically see the censorship coming.
And we wanted to do everything we could to create a situation in which we could do everything possible to make this information survive.
And so, you know, we run off our own server.
We're not beholding to any server.
Iconic runs off its own. And so he's created this platform, which is not just about conspiracy.
It's about every alternative subject you can think of.
And very much about this.
I've just done a series, which is up on Iconic now, is about...
13 parts on the nature of reality, using special effects and stuff like that.
The illusory nature of physical reality is extraordinary.
It's a subject I'm passionate about.
And then every Saturday morning, it's up from 10am UK, and then...
I do a show called the Dot Connector Show, Dot Connect the News, and I go through the main points of the week's news, and it's not just this is what's happened.
That's one thing.
The real key, as you well know, is why is it happening?
Because it's the why...
That connects the dots.
Why is that happening or why is that happening when they don't seem to be connected?
Well, the why connects that and the why connects that.
So I do that every week.
My son Gareth does a great show which is on Iconic every Friday evening called Right Now.
We're talking to really topical guests and people you'll never see in the mainstream.
The whole thing is just amazing.
I'm not saying that from my personal point of view.
I haven't created it. Jamie's created it.
We're having Dr.
Robert Malone and Dr.
McCullough on soon to do a debate on the whole fake vaccine thing, you know, which people will be able to participate in.
So, you know, there's some amazing things going on.
And we've got a show every Wednesday called Divine, which is our Absolute Solutions show, which, again, talks to people who are looking for vaccines Where do we go from here?
How do we respond to this?
So, I mean, I just couldn't be more delighted with what Iconic's become.
You're busier now than ever.
Oh, yeah. But that's good.
Yeah, that's good.
For much of the last 30 years, the challenge has been getting anyone interested in it.
Oh, we're interested.
A lot of rubbish, mate.
And now it's responding to the interest.
So that is a barometer of how things have changed.
You have...
I couldn't even tell you how many fans you have over here across the pond.
I've been a fan for many, many years.
I was only 14 when I first heard your quote about how all the truth comes from a 4x4 box in the corner of the room.
You know, whichever artist this was that used the quote really changed my life and brought your work into the forefront of a young, changing mind.
So, yeah, David, it's truly an honor.
We don't want to take up any more of your time because you certainly are a busy guy.
And all the best from us here in New England to old England over there.
Thank you very much indeed.
I hope to get there again at some point.
You let us know.
We'd love to have ya.
The coronavirus pandemic started in China.
Oxygen, medical supplies and physical strength have been cut.
Why have those prime vaccines and visionary powers been cut?
Stage one you create a problem.
It could be a manufactured virus.
You want a reaction and you want them to either say, do something or you want them to accept what the authorities suggest must be done.
So one of the agendas is to massively cull the population.
They want to reduce the numbers.
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