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Oct. 6, 2020 - David Icke
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Care home nurse Carley Stewart talks with David Icke about her experience of a fake 'pandemic'
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♪♪♪ Hello everybody. I'm going to chat with a fantastic lady,
Carly Stewart, a care home nurse from the north of England.
She lives in Preston and she was in the news very recently.
When she was fired from her job at a care home because she took part in a Trafalgar Square protest against lockdown and for human rights.
And she went to the square in London in her nurse's uniform holding a banner which was kind of saying In my experience, where's the pandemic?
And from that, she was fired from her job.
But of course, it's people like her in the medical profession who have the guts, the courage and the sense of duty to speak out.
And point out that from their daily experience, what governments and authorities are telling us about this pandemic and the effect on the elderly and the vulnerable is simply not true.
And so many know that.
In fact, they all know that.
But they don't speak out.
Well, Carly Stewart does, and we should all be incredibly grateful for the courage she shone.
And so we had a chat, and I asked her first to tell us her story of what happened from the time this pandemic hoax first appeared.
Yeah, so I've been a nurse for 10 years.
However, I did take seven years out to have my babies.
And then last year, I was drawn to go back into nursing.
Something was telling me, you know, go back into nursing.
So I thought, hey-ho, okay.
So in October this time last year, I went back to uni to do the re-enroll.
And then in February this year is when I actually re-qualified as a nurse again.
And then obviously all this happened coincidentally at the same time.
So I waited.
I hung on for a few months because I do have two kids and I was trying to see what was panning out of the situation.
Realised, you know, yeah, I'll get back to work.
And I found a job, luckily, in a nursing home near me.
This was in June time.
And ever since being there, those residents have been in lockdown with really, really restricted access to outdoor, to the family, to the loved ones, to the friends, to anything, you know, to any kind of like stimulation.
They were really deprived since being there.
So what's been the psychological impact and indeed health impact of that?
So mentally, like I say, the people I was caring for had neurological impairments.
So they were basically obviously expressing their wishes and not being given their wishes and their rights.
And the overall health, you could just see them declining and declining By the week, by the month, because they don't have anything to live for.
And when you have neurological impairments where you rely on people day in, day out, To get you out of bed, you know, because you're disabled, you can't walk, you can't feed yourself, you can't do this.
They just didn't get out anymore.
So I was witnessing, for instance, one gentleman who had full mental capacity.
He was all there.
You know, a lovely guy.
Unfortunately, he was paralysed from the neck down.
But all with it.
And he wanted to go, I wanted to see his mum, he wanted to see his friends, blah blah blah.
The rules say no, you know, the rules, you're not allowed, the rules.
And he deteriorated so significantly and so fast with pressure sores, sexist, pneumonia, Because they're lying in bed all day.
They're not getting out. They're not getting out and about like they used to do.
They're not happy. They're not engaging.
They don't have love. They don't have the contact they need to get better.
Because I always, if you want to be healthy, you need to be happy.
So his health, he did end up in ICU. It was that unwell.
Because it's Blatant neglect, really, as I was putting it.
And I couldn't work there and witness it any longer.
I couldn't go along with these rules of no one's allowed in.
When we was, all the staff are in, out, in, out, going shopping, we're going about our daily lives, we're going to restaurants eating 50% off all August, and then going back to work, and they're stuck in a room.
And they've not seen the mums or the children for six months.
And I just thought, how can we even go along with this when we're going in?
You know, we've got our PPE on, going in, we're leaving, but yet their family just aren't allowed in full stop.
Full stop. It just blew my mind.
So what's been the reaction of the loved ones?
I mean, they must be... Frustrated, furious.
Yeah, I mean, I witnessed, there's one gentleman, a young man, 32, car accident, neurological impairment.
His family travelled a very long way to see him.
His children came that day to see him.
And they were turned away at the door.
And obviously she lost a nut, this wife.
She was upset. She was swearing.
She was angry. Her husband inside, obviously you go inside, he's shouting, he's angry, he's upset.
I didn't get the chance to speak more one-on-one with family because we never saw them.
It was literally like we didn't see many families or carers to even talk to them because it was literally like no you're not allowed in the building and that was it.
From a wider picture point of view, if you take care homes in general, indeed hospitals in general, if the loved ones can't see them and have no input, there's no one literally watching their back, is there? In terms of medical treatment and treatment in general.
Yeah, yeah. And this is where your mental capacity and their autonomy and their voice gets lost.
It just...
Completely goes amiss because their family are a massive part of their care and the the Dolls Act and everything, Code of Candle, everything's gone out the window and because we don't have their input because of you know the rules.
So basically, I mean, you know, I can almost feel it myself.
You know, if you're cut off from your family and everyone you love and everyone that kind of knows you, I mean, it's so easy just to say, what's the bloody point?
What's the point of going on?
Well, this is it.
They are so depressed.
They are so... Oppressed, stressed and isolated and the reason why I push trying to get them out and trying to get the loved ones with them is because their immune system, their health is in their boots at the moment.
You know, this past six months It's basically killed them off anyway.
So come this flu season, in the next couple of months, they're not going to last.
And this is it. This is like the second wave.
It's like all these people will not survive because their immune system has been shot down so massively.
So my push was to try and get them all out quick, try and give them this boost of love, which they need, in order to survive the winter.
But I can't see that happening at the moment, unfortunately.
Presumably, like all bureaucracies, it's about following the rules and ticking boxes rather than saying, what do these people need, so let's do it.
Well, it's just choice.
Someone asked me the other day, I got in a bit of a debate, and they said, well, what would you do?
What would you do then for us?
Just give them a choice.
Just literally ask them what they would want to do.
They have taken risks all their lives.
A lot of them are in those places because they have taken these risks.
Or they're in those places because they didn't want to be there on this planet anyway.
They've been brought back.
They're still here.
There's no true liberty when it comes to your life.
But it's just to basically give them the choice and the risks to make.
Give them the exact same human rights as everybody else on the planet right now.
I don't know why suddenly the human rights have changed Compared to everyone else's, you know, even though I know our rights right now are being crushed, theirs are even lesser for them.
But I mean, if you give people choice, Then from a government's point of view, they make the wrong choices.
So you don't give them what it's all about.
So if people are in bed and not moving, I mean, not just their psychological health, their physical health must massively be affected.
Yeah, yeah. They're depressed.
They don't want to get out of bed.
This is it. This is why you're getting pressure sores, sepsis, pneumonia.
You're led in bed all day because there's nothing to do.
You're going to get pneumonia.
You're going to get, you know, a cough, flu, get tested, COVID. And then they roll out the DNRs and you're done.
You're done, you know.
It massively affects them mentally, spiritually, emotionally, socially, everything.
It's really hitting them hard and I couldn't watch, I couldn't sit there and be part of that.
If you watch the tone and the statements, it looks like they're going to repeat that again through this winter, doesn't it?
Yeah, I think it's another, this is the next six months, you know, perfect time and it's like, you know, ramp up the testing, ramp up this, ready for the next flu season, put it all down to COVID with the great PCR tests that we all know about.
And then, yeah, label them all COVID, all these vulnerable people that are, you know, possibly going to pass away.
Due to the treatment that they've had for the past six months, which is neglect.
They've been neglected for six months.
So you face anybody with any bacteria, virus, illness, chances of getting better from that are a lot slimmer.
So this is where it's rolling out perfectly for the next six months where we'll get the second wave.
Yeah, we will. And it's going to be all these people catching the flu and then all the fears going to raise back up, bubble back up to the surface.
We'll be back to that, you know, you know, straight to the drawing board again because of all this fear base, which has been all caused, obviously.
So you became well known when you turned up at Trafalgar Square for basically saying, where's the bloody pandemic?
So what's your experience from that point of view?
I mean, there you are going to the care home every day and all you can see if you watch the mainstream media, God help us, is that there's this pandemic and we're all going to die.
What's been your experience of it?
Well, I've not seen anything in terms of a pandemic.
The nursing home where I worked at wasn't even full, it was half empty.
But I was at Trafalgar Square obviously representing the whole healthcare system because I'm getting My friends that work in ICU, my friends that are nurse practitioners, I'm getting people that do work in the test centres coming to me as well.
So it was as a whole, looking at all this evidence.
No, I don't work in a hospital, I don't.
But I know for a fact that all the people working there, there's empty beds.
There's missed cancer treatments, there's missed surgeries, there's missed dialysis appointments, there's missed endoscopy appointments and diagnostic treatments going on, which are causing more harm now.
It's so disproportionate.
What they're doing is causing so much more harm in the long run to people because my friend who's a nurse had to take holiday pay.
She had to take her holidays because she was quiet.
There was nobody to see and I've never you know when they said oh there's a pandemic coming I was thinking okay morgues overflowing, hospitals overflowing, nursing homes overflowing, any bed available would have been taken, would have been required You know, and that's why I came back to nursing.
I thought, you know, that's my job.
I'm here. But I wasn't seeing it.
I wasn't witnessing anything.
And when they rolled out the testing, PCR testing a couple months ago, they made that mandatory at our work.
So we wasn't allowed to work unless we took a test.
And we were getting positive cases through from the staff, which they were fine.
They were, you know, They're all fine.
What happens when you test for the test, not testing for the virus you say you're testing for?
Exactly! This is why it just was...
It was just all not making sense, but you know, this guy, this staff member, he got a test because he looked tired.
He looked tired.
So he had a test, came back positive.
And we're seeing, because they are testing a lot of healthcare workers, obviously, massive staffing issues.
Massive staffing issues because then you've got to isolate for two weeks.
Then you don't have your continuity of care for your patients and for your residents.
Staffing is all over the place in the NHS at the moment because of all this and the testing and it's another knock-on effect which I was seeing they were doing.
I thought well what's the point?
What's the point in all this?
What were your feelings when you saw people I just felt it was a pacifier.
I thought this is a pacifier to all, obviously, healthcare staff.
We all want to feel good.
We all want to, you know, You know, feel like we're making a difference and it just felt like giving a dog a bone, you know, like let's just clap for him, that'll keep him going, that'll boost their ego up and then obviously I saw all the TikTok videos, all the nurses making TikTok videos in their own work time and I was like, Wow, it sure is busy.
It sure is so busy that people are doing dance routines and everyone was going nuts for it.
And I was just like, crazy!
I think crazy! I was like, if anything, it's disrespectful.
It is so disrespectful to be singing and dancing in the middle of a pandemic.
If you look at the clapping from another point of view, it was also selling this idea that the NHS was overrun, the hospitals were packed, there were war zones, therefore there was a pandemic.
Yeah. With the security on the hospitals and, of course, the security around mainstream media reporting of it, the impression was given of something that was absolutely not happening.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, it was. And then we also got, I remember seeing literally every police car, every ambulance, every car literally from the services at the local hospital, all with the sirens on and all clapping and this and that.
And it just, it just like awaits, you know.
This is actually one of the extraordinary examples of the extremes that the psychological game went to because when you first heard, when I first heard that there were ambulances going around with the sirens on, going around a housing state or something and then going back.
For no other reason than just to do that, then the first reaction is, well, that seems a bit extreme, even for the extremes they go.
But there's been so many people within the health system and people who live near ambulance stations who've actually said that that's what's been going on.
They've been going around just with the blue lights flashing and then going back to the depot, having done nothing in between, but just to give the impression that there's an urgency, there's a problem.
Yeah, I've heard the same thing.
I've heard the same thing or just having the sirens on for non-emergency calls as well.
Yeah.
So, I mean, I have enormous respect for what you've done.
I mean, if there were more people like you, we would be in a different situation than we are now.
But why is it, and what are the pressures on medical staff not to come out and say, actually, this is a load of crap.
This is my experience.
It ain't what they're telling you.
Yeah. Money.
People, you know, they want the money.
I don't have a job.
I don't have a job now.
So I think obviously that's a major factor of people's life.
But I honestly think as well, it's the humiliation factor.
People just won't come forward because we now live in a society Where people are too oppressed to even speak the truth and their opinion.
They're too afraid to be ridiculed and humiliated.
Because I know so many people that agree with me, but I'm just like, I dare you to share your own view to, you know, to the public.
And they don't.
They don't. And that's really quite a sorry, you know, state of affairs if we can't feel as though as people that we have that freedom to speak our truth, you know, truth or not truth, just even to feel afraid to speak out.
Obviously, like I've said to people, I just don't have any ego left in me to even be phased by it anymore.
I think it's just an ego thing for most people.
Luckily, I don't have one.
Yeah, because the point I've been trying to get across all along is that we're only where we are now.
This is meant to get much more extreme.
So at some point, or at what point, are you actually going to start speaking out?
I've been very encouraged, I'm sure you have too, that more medical staff are coming out, doctors.
Yeah. Saying, actually, this is not making any sense.
So we do seem to be making some progress at least.
But when you up at the protest in Trafalgar Square, you must have pretty much known what the consequences were going to be.
Yeah, I got on the bus that morning from Manchester and I remember getting on and everyone saying like, oh, you're so brave, you're so brave.
Oh God, you know, I was like, why?
Why would I feel brave to just do the right thing?
And I was actually quite surprised.
There wasn't more of me.
There wasn't more people in uniform there because there were a lot of nurses there.
There were a lot of nurses that came up to me and said, well done, you know, so brave of you.
I was like, I knew the risk I was taking, but I knew that I couldn't work within that system either.
And I thought, well, you know, someone's either going to end up dead in the care home and that'll be on me or I can go out there and Expose what is going on, put it on the map because people did forget.
I do think people were very much distracted away from these people within care homes and I just needed to bring it out.
I needed to expose it for what it was.
I didn't know it would go that farther.
Honestly, I didn't think it would Yeah, be that blown up.
But I'm glad.
I am glad. So what happened then?
You went to the protest and...
Sorry.
Just the dog. So you went to the protest and then what happened in relation to your job?
So it went viral, obviously.
Someone tagged it in work, a lovely, lovely journalist who slandered me galore.
That's what they do, it's their job.
Oh yeah, yeah. Good for him.
Well, it works. You know, I was like, thank you.
Thanks for getting me the exposure and help in this situation.
But work called me up on a Sunday morning, asked for me to come in on the Monday morning for a meeting.
That was a bank holiday and I was supposed to be working the night shift as well, Monday.
So I kind of just...
I ignored that. I knew that I shouldn't really be talking to them, communicating with them.
I spoke with Kate.
Kate called me up, Sharmani.
Mark as well. But loads of people were ringing me up that day, giving me advice, you know, don't say this, don't do this.
Simon Dolan, he gave me a lawyer, you know, write this, do this.
In the end, after cancelling a few meetings with them, they actually shut down a meeting with me then, which was my dismissal meeting.
They wouldn't allow me to speak or to share my view or opinion.
They just immediately said I was there as an anti-mask and anti-vax and that were it.
I was at a human rights protest.
So, because they didn't allow me to speak, And it was based upon whistleblowing.
They can't really dismiss me on whistleblowing terms.
So that's when I made the follow-up video, which I posted on Facebook, which I think has got over 200,000 views now.
Just explaining to people, no, this is why I was there, actually.
You're not going to slander me.
You're not going to tarnish me.
I was there for the residents.
I work for the residents...
Because it was really annoying because they kept saying, you know, you're there in your uniform, you're representing the company.
And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I get paid by the people.
Okay. I get paid by them.
I work for them. I look after them.
And those people in that home that day wanted me there to speak for them on their behalf.
They wanted me there.
So I'm working in the best interest for my patients.
I'm a nurse. That's what I do.
To be sacked for being at a human rights protest is a bit out of order, obviously.
But yeah, ever since then, work's gone quiet, very, very quiet.
But yeah, I got it all out anyway on social media, what I wanted to explain to them, what the problems were within the care home, within the setting.
But it's hard to explain, you know, a problem when it's happening everywhere.
It's everywhere. I think you've just encapsulated the Well, everything that's wrong with the attitude of institutions and the system in general, that line about you're representing the company, you're a nurse and you're representing a corporate entity by wearing a uniform and not the patients that it should be all about.
Exactly. Exactly.
I was there for them.
And that's what everyone keeps bringing it down to the company.
But I'm like, you do know who pays me.
They're the ones paying me, not the company, you know.
And yeah, I... I'm glad I did it, you know.
I'm glad I did it because to me, I'm a true nurse.
I care. I care and it's not working in the best interest anymore.
Like these rules, I'm all for protecting people.
I'm all for, you know, PPE and this and that within reasons, within obviously the right reasons.
But I'm a nurse and they're getting worse.
They're getting worse. This is worse for them.
So yeah, I hope I was there to fight for them anyway.
Well, we're all glad you did it.
And like I say, what a different situation we'd be in if more people were like you in the medical profession.
You're a mother. I guess, to speak the obvious, your children will not be getting the Gates vaccine.
Oh god no!
No, no, no, no, no.
They know the score.
My children, I've had good sit down conversations with them because I am worried about obviously their future.
This is why I do all this as well.
It's for my children and to see how it's affecting them mentally.
It's heartbreaking as well, you know, to be isolated away from friends and family.
And now, you know, they're four and seven years old, and I don't wear a mask, obviously.
We walk around mask-free.
But now they're looking at the public as And they want to wear a mask because that's normal.
You know, that's the normal.
They feel now excluded not to be, like, part of that.
And it's really, it's so testing to say, like, this isn't normal, though, children.
This isn't how it's supposed to be, you know.
And it infuriates me that the government are trying to make children believe that this is normal, the new normal.
I think it is so disheartening to take my children out.
I went to Blackpool and took them in the arcades.
And this is all you can see, you know?
Like that's it. You're going around these arcades where all these children are supposed to be engaging, laughing, playing, smiling, and not one adult, bar me, Was able to express and to give that to the children.
So I'm there, happy as Larry, running around the arcade, just smiling and giggling and giving this interaction to all these young, you know, beautiful children.
That are so confused because they're not getting any form of communication anymore.
It's all lost.
It's all completely lost for them.
And it's sad taking them round now, you know, in that world.
But we have our lighthearted moments, our jokes, you know, you've got to kind of take the myth, haven't you, about it all.
But I have sat them down.
They know the truth. They definitely won't be getting any form of vaccine.
Not at all. Well, Carly, I think you're amazing.
I think what you've done is amazing.
Thank you. Thank you.
It's people like you that are going to make the difference because they're told are certainly not going to make the difference.
They are essentially the problem.
So thanks for talking to me and thanks for doing what you're doing.
And I just think you're brilliant.
Thank you. Thank you very much.
So are you! I've watched you all my life practically, and now you're here.
Yeah, but it's people like you who are on the inside that can say, this is my experience.
They are so important.
Because you can't deny people's personal experience.
And what you see in your care home is obviously what's happening all over the world.
And it's tragic and people have to know about it.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
And hopefully there are more stepping forward, slowly but surely, because...
You know, they've got to break.
They've got to break.
If you're a true nurse, if you truly, truly love and care for human beings, you're going to break soon.
I don't know how you're not.
So hopefully, yeah.
Well, you've seen the videos of some nurses in places like New York where they did literally break down because they couldn't take what was happening and had the guts to speak out.
Come on, people. Let's hear from you.
I know. Exactly.
Exactly. All the best.
All right. See you soon.
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