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Oct. 7, 2020 - David Icke
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David Icke Talks To The Grizzly Patriot
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♪♪♪ And I'm more than happy to have him on my show,
so without any further ado, Mr. David.
David Icke, welcome to the show.
Thank you very much. I've got a little bit of bad news for you.
I did an interview for an Australian TV show yesterday, and it was taken off YouTube almost immediately.
Fortunately, they got it on other platforms, but not YouTube.
I don't know what, it must have been something I've said.
Maybe. Yeah, my speech at the Trafalgar Square rally on Saturday has also been taken down by YouTube.
So I take it as a war medal.
And I also take it as, well, who's got the real power here?
Because here's this global network.
That controls the financial system, governments and Silicon Valley, media ownership level and more, the corporations, all of that stuff.
And yet people like us, the so-called little people, terrify them.
It terrifies them for a simple reason.
The only way They can control humanity is by controlling the perceptions of humanity, which become the behavior of humanity.
And they control perception by controlling information.
And that's why people like you and me are so dangerous to them.
Well, and it's funny, David, because I say quite frequently that we're in this 10-lap race.
The globalists are seven laps ahead.
We're just tying our shoes.
But the difference being is the globalists are running in quicksand.
They're running in mushy, soft footing based on perception, not reality.
And we, the people, are based in truth, we're based in honesty, integrity, and our foundation is rock solid.
So, I mean, at the end, you know, we can win this battle, but it's going to take the people to do it.
So, do me a favor, David, for the folks that are watching who either live in a cave or don't pay any attention at all, give us a little idea of who David Icke is, you know, What brought you to this point?
What brought you into all the battles that we've seen you in?
Where did you get your start and why did you end up going down this road?
Well, it's a long story. I'll keep it as brief as possible.
I was born in the English Midlands in 1952.
So that makes me, what, 68?
And I wanted to be a professional footballer.
That's what I wanted to be as a kid.
And fortunately, I achieved that.
But at the age of 21, when I was playing for a club called Hereford United, after I'd left another one called Coventry City...
I got rheumatoid arthritis.
In fact, I played with rheumatoid arthritis for years until it got so bad I couldn't play anymore.
And so my career finished at 21.
And during my, even my quite young childhood, I'd been fascinated by journalism, newspapers, information, what was going on.
And so when my football career ended, my immediate response was, I want to be a journalist.
So I became a journalist on small newspapers and then radio and eventually became a national television presenter with the BBC, doing news initially and then concentrating on sport.
And then during the 1980s, I became very concerned about what was happening with the environment.
And I speak as someone who doesn't buy for a second human-caused climate change.
And it's really sad for me.
This will apply to some beautiful parts of Canada.
This obsession with this human-caused climate change hoax is turning attention away from real environmental issues and environmental degradation in many parts of the world.
But anyway, I became a national spokesman for the British Green Party in the 1980s for quite a short time.
And it was very, very important for me looking back.
A, I was able to see the politics from the inside.
And politics is not going to change anything.
It's part of the problem, big time, rather than any solution.
The solution has to come from the people.
Politicians ain't going to do it. And it also gave me an insight into the emerging mentality at that time that's now become known as woke.
And the whole social justice warrior mentality.
And why that's important is that that mentality has been systematically developed and programmed, ironically, by the very 1%, which is destroying social justice all over the world, by the hour.
And then, well, some very strange things had happened to me.
During... What would it be?
1989, while I was still a presenter with the BBC, when I was in a room alone, it felt I wasn't alone.
It was like a presence there.
And this was all new to me.
I haven't been into any of this stuff.
And through 1989 into early 1990, I was experiencing this and it became more and more tangible to the point where in March 1990, I was in a hotel room called the Kensington Hilton near the BBC, where I was working with the BBC. I was in the room alone and I sat on the bed and I looked out into the room and I said, look, if there's something there, would you contact me?
Because you'll drive me up the wall.
And a few days later, I'm in a news shop and I had this strange experience.
I was with my little boy.
Well, he's not a little boy now. He was speaking at the rally in Trafalgar Square on Saturday.
So that was your son then?
I wanted to clarify that.
Yes, my son. And he was a little boy at the time.
It was... 1990.
And I've stood there, and he's reading the books, and I've just come to say, come on, guys, we'll go up and get some lunch in the town.
And it was like the atmosphere around me changed.
What I realize now, it was some form of electromagnetic field, but I didn't know what the hell it was.
I just knew the atmosphere had changed.
And then I heard this, it wasn't a voice, it was a very strong thought form that goes through my head, which said, go and look at the books on the far side.
What? And in, you know, a bewildered, cut the story short, in a bewildered way, I walked across to these books.
And I knew this new shop very well.
It went in there all the time. And the books it had was for tourists, because, you know, it's a seaside kind of place that I live.
And they were all romantic novels, not my scene at all.
So what? But in Among Them was this one book.
It had a woman's face on it.
It was called Mind to Mind. And I turned it over.
And I saw the blurb and I saw the word psychic.
Not that I knowingly, by that time, met a psychic.
But I thought, ooh, psychic, what's happening to me?
So I read the book in 24 hours, contacted her, and then went to see her, not telling her what was happening to me, these strange things, but just saying, look, you know, she used to do this hands-on healing.
And I said, you know, I've got arthritis and, you know, maybe you could help her.
I just want to see if she would pick it up.
I don't want to give her any idea.
Otherwise, you know, what's the point?
So I went a couple of times and just had the hands-on healing, and it was very nice.
We had a very interesting chat about reality and stuff.
Then the third time I went, she's working just off my left knee, you know, doing the hands-on stuff, or hands-just-off stuff, and I felt like a spider's web on my face.
And I didn't know what it was at the time.
I now know that was an electromagnetic field.
Same thing that makes your hair stand up when you're in an excited crowd generating electromagnetic fields.
And what hit me when I felt it is that I'd read in her book that when other levels of reality are trying to lock into you, you sometimes feel like a fighter's web on your face.
Anyway, I said nothing to her.
I just sit there thinking, what's going on?
And then about 10 seconds or so later, she launches her head back and said, my God, this is powerful.
I've got to close my eyes for this one.
And my backside is now slipping further down the bench because, I mean, what you got into, Ike?
And then she says, I'm seeing a figure in my mind, which is kind of a projection.
And I'm being told to tell you these things, right?
So she starts off and I'm sitting there.
I'm a television presenter with the BBC. I'm a national spokesperson for the Green Party.
And she's saying, you're going to go out on a world stage and reveal great secrets.
You're going to face enormous opposition, but quote, they will always be there to protect you.
You are going to be led to knowledge and knowledge is going to be put in your mind and you'll wonder where it's come from.
And a load of other things went on, every single one of which has turned out to be true.
And from the moment I left her front room that day, in March 1990, my life became this synchronistic Adventure journey with many, many challenges where I would walk into personal experience, people, whistleblowers, you might say, documents, books, information from endless different sources in many countries.
I've been to about 60 countries now researching this.
And it was like someone handing you pieces in a puzzle, in a jigsaw puzzle, in an order that made it You know, easiest to put the pieces together.
And like any jigsaw puzzle, the more pieces you put into place, the quicker you see where the other ones are going, because now you're seeing the picture.
For 30 years. It's still going on.
And so over these decades, I've put together a stream of books, done talks all over the world.
And with every year that passes, not only do you get more information and And understand more.
You know, they say the more you know, the more you know there is to know.
But there's another sequence, which is the more you know, the simpler it gets.
One of the things that hides this global conspiracy Is its apparent complexity and the perception that it must be complex, otherwise they couldn't do it.
And if it's that complex, how could they do it?
But actually, when you see beyond the complexity, the way it's structured and how it works is incredibly simple.
And it's that level of the simple process That allows a few to control the many, while that's hidden by the apparent complexity of everyday world events.
Yeah, absolutely. So before we dive into that, David, I wanted to, speaking of some of your things in your past, now, when I advertised you onto my show, of course, I had lots of people very happy and appreciative, but I got the few, too, that were, you know, of course, well, who's David Icke?
And, of course, they Google David Icke, and immediately it's, David Icke thinks the world's run by lizards, and David Icke thinks he's the son of God.
So I want you to sort of...
I watched your interview with Brian Rose over at London Real, and it helped me also understand and put into context where you were at at that time.
But I'd like you for our purposes here to sort of run through that quickly, and then we can get into sort of the meat and potatoes of what's going on.
Well, in terms of that whole Son of God thing and the Terry Wogan interview, Which I should regret, but I don't, because it gave me a fantastic gift.
One of the key foundation prisons that most people live in is the fear of what other people think.
And after that Wogan interview, which people can see on the internet, in 1991, I went through historic levels of ridicule.
And what happens when you do that?
Literally, I couldn't walk down the street anywhere without being laughed at, pointed at.
Ridicule. A comedian only had to say my name on the television and get a laugh.
Didn't need a joke. I was the joke.
And when you go through that level of historic ridicule, one of two things happens.
Either you withdraw from society and disappear.
Or you let go of that prison of fear of what other people think.
And that was essential to me.
When you think of some of the things that I've written about and talked about, you mentioned one, the whole reptiles thing.
Then if you have an attachment not to the truth but to how people see you, What they think of you, then there are many areas which need to be explored that you're not going to talk about.
You're going to go through mental gymnastics.
What do I leave out and how do I put this so these people will think I'm okay?
I don't care if they think I'm okay.
I care about the truth. And if the truth is too much for others to handle, well, that's their problem, not mine.
So if you come back to the Son of God thing, well, there's another story, you see.
Because going on from what I talked about earlier, the Betty Shine thing, during 1990, I was...
I was going about my life and my life was changing very much, obviously.
And I started writing a book called Truth Vibrations for reasons I explained the title elsewhere.
But when I finished that, it went to print in very early 1991.
I suddenly had this out-of-nowhere urge to go to Peru.
And I eventually went to Peru.
I actually went to Peru via Canada.
And when I went there, I didn't really know why I was going there.
I just had this urge, I need to go to Peru.
Well, what happened over three weeks in Peru was just mind-blowing.
I mean, it's a story in itself.
It's a book in itself.
But where I ended up Was a place called Siustani, which is just a short, pretty short drive from a place called Puno, just on the banks of Lake Titicaca.
And I'd gone to this hotel in Puno and I had this Peruvian guide who was, you know, guiding me around the country.
And he'd booked us in this hotel, nothing to do with me, called the Si Ustani.
And this is an Inca site not far from Puno, like I say.
And so there's pictures of this Inca site all over the hotel for obvious reasons.
And I looked at the pictures and I thought, I want to go there.
So we went there the next day and it was out of season.
I had to hire like a tourist bus taxi thing, which they have in Peru.
So we went out, the driver, the Peruvian guy to me, we went out to this sea Ustani and it was absolutely beautiful.
A beautiful place.
And I loved it, but I walked around for about an hour, and nice as it was, the urge I had to go there wasn't matched by what I experienced.
So we get back in the bus, and I'm quite disappointed.
And we start driving away, and we've got about no more than three, four minutes down the road.
And I'm looking out of the window, and I saw this hill.
I'm just daydreaming. I daydream a lot.
And what I was getting in my head, again, thought forms when I was looking at this hill, is come to me, come to me, come to me.
So by this time, I'm thinking, Ike, what is happening to your life?
So I said to the people, can you stop the bus?
I'm just going up that hill. I said, it won't be long.
But I was over an hour because of what happened.
And I walk up this hill, and there's some stones there, and I stand up in among these stones.
And what happened was a much more powerful version of what happened in the new shop when all this kind of started for me, consciously anyway.
I felt like the atmosphere changed.
And I felt an energy coming in through the top of my head and going out through my feet, through the top of my head.
And I heard this very clear thought form right at the start, which said they will be talking about this 100 years from now.
It will be over when you feel the rain.
Now, I'm standing under a Piercing Peruvian sun and a cloudless Peruvian sky.
And at that point, it will be when you feel the rain.
I thought, Aiki, you've lost it, man.
And then this energy increased and increased.
My arms went out at 45 degrees like that without me making a conscious decision to do it.
And they stayed there for the duration, which was about, I don't know, it must have been 40 minutes or so, maybe more.
And this energy was coming through me.
And I was shaking in the end, like being plugged into the mains.
And I kept going in and out of consciousness.
You know, you drive a car and you daydreamed while you've been driving.
You can't remember the last two miles or so.
It was like that. One of these times when I came back to conscious awareness, I noticed that there was a light gray mist over the distant mountains.
And I thought, it's raining.
And this mist got darker and darker.
And, you know, if what happened next had been in a movie, they'd have said, oh, come on!
That would never happen.
But it did. And what happened is this storm, this rainstorm, came out of the mountains, which was quite a long way away, but it was moving fast.
And people talk about, you know, a weather front.
Well, this was literally a straight line of rain coming towards me.
And it was stair-rod rain.
I mean, as it got closer, I'm looking at this wall of rain coming at me.
You know, it wasn't like it just happened gradually.
It happened in like a wall of rain.
And by this time, my body's shaking all over the place.
And then the rain hit me.
I was soaked immediately. And the energy stopped.
And I staggered forward.
My legs felt like Bambi.
And my arms that had been fine like that, amazingly, suddenly my shoulders were agony.
So something happened there, which when I look back, it's like, imagine you're living in a bubble of reality and a bubble of perception, and suddenly that bubble is bursting.
And as the bubble bursts, concepts, insights, knowledge, awareness starts pouring into your conscious mind.
So much so that it's like pressing loads of keys on a computer too fast.
The computer freezes, can't process all that information.
I'm freezing. And for three months after that, it took a week or so, maybe a bit more for this to kick in.
But for about three months, if you asked me my name, I would have checked.
And it was in that period, in the middle of that period, that I went on the Wogan show.
And I talked about being the son of God in the sense of, as I still talk about now, of us all being expressions, points of attention within one infinite flow of consciousness.
Having a brief experience as a human, but eternally exploring forever, forever as consciousness.
So we're all, if you take that That infinite field of awareness to be what some people call God, then we're all aspects of that God.
We're all expressions of it.
But in a situation where This has just hit me.
And I don't know what hell's going on.
The bubbles burst.
The waters are broken.
I use the term son of God.
I'm a son of God. But the point was, so are you, so are you, so are you.
And then after about three months, it's like the computer unfroze.
And people were coming up to me and saying, hey, I thought you'd gone mad.
You're the same, Dave. I used to know.
And I was outwardly.
But inwardly, I've completely changed because now I'm seeing the world through completely different eyes.
Now, instead of seeing dots, I'm seeing patterns.
Instead of seeing pixels, I'm seeing pictures and how everything connects.
And this has gone on ever since.
And you know, what happens, you see, and the media do this all the time, when something happens in your life, that's it.
They build a box around it, and that's you.
So 30 years later, having written a stream of books, which have been, I must say it myself, extraordinarily accurate in predicting current events and changes in the world, You still have people saying, yeah, but he said he was the son of God.
Right. Well, like I said, go to Google and Google David Icke.
That's the only thing that comes up.
Yeah. You know, and it's like, can't you just see that people, that things change and people change and someone was going through something at that time, which is not what they're going through now.
Right. But like I say, it gave me an amazing gift.
Right. Because the scale of the ridicule was so, well, historic, I mean, it was unbelievable.
It was incessant, constant, everywhere.
It freed me of the concern about what other people think, and therefore I've been able to say things without fear of the consequences.
And I think we all go through that to differing degrees, of course.
You know, I've been sort of researching and studying and trying to understand the whole globalist agenda for about 17 years.
And in that, plus I was a prison guard for 25, so I've developed some thick skin just through that.
But going through this process and being labeled a conspiracy theorist myself, being labeled a right wing nut job, over and over and over and constantly, you develop this thicker skin, you develop the scar tissue, That allows you to go further and the sense of liberty that you get when you finally accept the fact that, hey, you know what?
The truth is the truth and that liberates me.
My chains are gone. You can call me whatever you want.
It's unbelievable, mate.
People would only experience it.
They'd never go back. It's this thing where someone asks you a question and And you speak your truth.
There's no mental gymnastics.
There's no how do I put this so they'll think I'm okay.
Because you're not bothered if you think you're okay.
You're just bothered about speaking your truth.
And it's such a liberation.
And what you've got here in this whole period of the pandemic hoax is a very clear divide, difference between those people who just believe whatever governments tell them And those who have and insist upon having a mind of their own to process how they see it themselves rather than just take it off the shelf from governments.
And that's the difference between seeking the truth and just being a repeater of the official version of everything.
And when you look at tyrannies, Whatever they are, fascist tyrannies, communist tyrannies, second tyranny, really just different name.
They are allowed to emerge because people won't question what they're told and just believe it.
And it's done incrementally.
You get them used to that and then you give them something more extreme, then you give them something more extreme.
And every tyranny has been broken Not by those people, but by those who say we're not having it and I can see what's going on here and it's not what we're being told.
So we're in a very extreme expression now of something, a process that's been repeated so many times throughout history.
And in the end, the tyrannies always go down, always go under.
And it will be the same here, but it's going to take a hell of a lot of courage, a hell of a lot of determination.
And a hell of a lot of Of thinking for yourself to turn this around.
It will, and I sort of take it as a duty, and I'm not sure, it's just sort of my DNA, it's my makeup, it's who I am, but I see it as a duty to try to wake the masses.
I feel sorry for a lot of people, and I say it's around 80-90% in Canada that are still asleep, and they've actually surrounded themselves with that bubble, and that bubble of comfort, that bubble of...
Of lies, but it's still comfort, and it's still, you know, what they're used to, their worldview, and God forbid if anybody breaks that bubble.
But I also say that it's inevitable that that bubble will break, whether I break it or just the circumstances are going to break those bubbles.
It's going to happen, and we have to be there for a soft place to land.
We're actually seeing that happen because, you know, a lot of people have gone deeper into the perceptual prison as a result of the incessant perceptual programming that's gone on in 2020.
But I can tell you, from my own experience, all over the world, there is a vast number of people For whom what has happened got them off the fence.
A fundamental expression of this awakening that's going on to the fact the world is not like they thought it was is because people's personal experience through all this Is absolutely at odds with what governments are telling them is actually going on.
And so they've gone, well, hold on a minute.
You know, I mean, because wherever I can, wherever I go, I say to people, do you know anyone who's got this COVID virus?
No. Do you know anyone who knows anyone who's got this COVID virus who's had it?
No. And the odd occasion when they say, oh, yeah, my friend died of it.
And you say, well, hold on a minute.
Tell me the story.
And when they tell you the story, it's obviously they died of something else.
And COVID-19 was put on the death certificate, which is a scam that's going on all over the world.
So this division between people's experience and what governments are telling them is actually happening.
That divide has awakened a lot of people.
And the thing is, where we are, Is we've got a gathering number of people now, really gathering number of people, who can see that some sort of scam is going on here.
But it's getting those people to move from seeing it to ceasing to cooperate with it.
That's the second stage which will bring it to an end.
And without that, it will not be brought to an end.
And it's critical mass.
It's not necessary. You don't need everybody to wake up, but you need that critical mass of people around the world.
And that's happening. We're watching it, as you say, in real time.
So David, you know, for me, and I created this organization, the Forum for Canadian Sovereignty,
based solely on educating and informing the masses of the globalist agenda, global governance,
sustainable development agenda, all of these things. And I'm convinced in this vein that
with them wanting to achieve so much, we're just seeing the beginning.
They've been, of course, developing this for years, but we're seeing them really push it and this is the beginning.
I don't think they can achieve all of their goals.
Of course, they're using COVID as a mechanism to achieve some goals.
They use climate change, again, through fear to achieve some of these goals or to set the table to achieve some of these goals.
But I think ultimately, as people are awakened by each step that they take, it's going to get more and more difficult for them to even come close to achieving the goals.
Because I think humanity has this innate sense of wanting to be free.
And they're going to see that all of these steps they're taking is complete contradiction to freedom.
So do me a favor, do us a favor, and try to encapsulate what's happening.
I mean, we understand climate change, we understand the fear they use there, but from the inception of this pandemic to this very day, what do you see is happening?
What have they done? What have they created for everybody to achieve this that they're going after?
Yeah, well, you know, what you are talking about there is very true.
They have to bring the perceptions of the people along with them because perceptions equal behavior.
But as people start to awaken and their perceptions change, then their ability to impose their will upon the population gets more and more and more difficult.
And you've described why we're going through this hysterical censorship.
You know, I see things kind of different to a lot of people in this sense.
They say, oh, you know, they've got power over the media, power over Silicon Valley.
Well, to some extent, yes, that's true.
But with all that power, they still have to control perception, okay?
That gives them more ability to do that by controlling the flow of information.
But even though they do, They're still terrified of you and me.
So this hysteria of Censorship is not a manifestation of their power.
It's the manifestation of their lack of power.
Otherwise, they wouldn't even bother you and be like, oh, I don't matter what they say.
We own everything. We run everything.
It's not a problem. But they do. They're frightened of information which changes perception.
So this is where it's all going on.
Information perception. Information perception becomes behavior.
Different perceptions change of behavior.
So as people become...
To perceive that what's going on is not what they've been told.
Their behaviour changes. They start to push back.
So everything's about perception and behaviour.
And so has been the pandemic hoax.
Because You know, I'm still waiting for incontrovertible evidence.
There is a virus. I'm still waiting for it.
Because it's not been, you know, the various processes that they go through normally to show that, A, there's an infectious agent, and B, it's causing what they say it's causing.
They've not been gone through.
And if you go back to China, and this is a sequence that It's quite a simple sequence, but very much explains how we got here.
We are looking at a global web And it, you know, a web is a wonderful analogy because it's very close to how it works.
You've got the spider at the center of the web, which is driving all this.
That's in the shadows. And then you've got the strands immediately around the spider.
They're the most exclusive secret societies.
And then you come out from them and you hit the secret societies we do know about, though we don't know what goes on inside of them most of the time.
The Freemasons and the Knights of Malta, the Knights Templar and so on and so forth.
And then you come out and there's a point in the web where the hidden meets the scene.
And these are what I call the cusp organizations.
These are the Bilderberg Group, the Council on Foreign Relations in America, the Royal Institute of International Affairs in London, the Trilateral Commission, the Club of Rome that was created in the 1960s specifically to exploit the environment as a excuse to transform global society, which is what human-caused climate change is all about, or alleged human-caused climate change.
And so these cusp organizations, they gather together people from all the different institutions from around the world, and they form a common policy, which is then projected out into the world of the scene.
Government agencies, governments, banking systems, corporations, media.
And so when you're out in the In the world of the scene, you look at different corporations and organizations like the World Health Organization, Facebook, Google, YouTube, etc.
And they seem to be independent bodies and completely different and disconnected from each other.
But actually, at the core of all of them, It's the web.
The web is the cement that pulls them all together.
And I'll give you a quick example.
So what you have, therefore, because of this web connection, you have the World Health Organization, which was created by the Rockefellers and is owned by Bill Gates now through funding.
And if Bill Gates is speaking, the cult is speaking.
And if Ted Ross, the director general of the World Health Organization, is speaking, then Gates is speaking.
And the World Health Organization issues its guidance for how the world should respond to this virus.
And then these other web organizations, which to most people, there seems to be no connection to the WHO, like Facebook and YouTube and Google and all these others, they then promote the narrative of the World Health Organization on this virus.
And they've openly said it, censor, including me, Those that are challenging and exposing the lies and mendacity of the World Health Organization narrative.
And so what you've got is two aspects of the same web working as one to keep people in the dark about what's actually happening.
So if you go back to China, Within this web, China is a massive, massive center.
This web, what I call the cult, was behind the Mao revolution.
And what it set out to do in China, behind the walls of control, Is to incubate a model of societal control, not least involving technology, that they then wanted to play out across the West.
I've been writing for decades now.
If you want to see the West tomorrow, what's planned for the West tomorrow, look at China today.
Because that's what's coming.
Because that's the plan.
So what happened with this virus, alleged virus anyway, is...
People started getting ill, they said, in Wuhan with respiratory disease, flu-like symptoms.
Well, if you go on the internet and you look at some pictures of Wuhan, it's notoriously one of the most toxic atmosphere, toxic air cities in the world, as a result of which they have enormous amounts of respiratory disease.
And so...
What they then did was take lung fluid from actually a handful of the first nearly 200 they said were ill from something strange and they found, they said, that there was a virus That was 80% the same as SARS-CoV-1, shall we call it. And therefore, they were connected.
And this was a new strain of the SARS virus.
Well, 80% the same in genetic terms is an absolute bloody irrelevance.
You know, chimpanzees and humans are 96% the same.
And a banana is 60%.
80% is irrelevant.
And they never put it through these series of accepted tests to show that this infectious agent A existed and B it was causing what they say it caused.
And what they did in the early days in China is they were diagnosing this on symptoms, flu-like symptoms.
Well, flu-like symptoms can come from an endless series of sources, including the toxic air of Wuhan.
So then they started introducing a test.
And this is crucial. This absolutely crucial to understanding the scan.
The test is called the RT-PCR test.
And this is the test now as we speak that is producing all the cases all over the world.
Ted Ross said early on the way to meet this crisis is test, test, test.
Why? Because they know that this fake test, when I say fake, I mean it was created by a man called Kerry Mullis, an American.
He won the Nobel Prize for it.
The point is, why I say it's fake is not the test that he created for certain procedures and research, but what it's being used for is fake.
Kerry Mullis, the creator of this test, said it must not be used to diagnose infectious disease because it can't.
His quote was, the PCR cannot detect free infectious viruses.
And this is the test they started using in China and have used ever since around the world to produce the cases.
How the PCR test works?
It takes a minute amount of genetic material, not the virus, genetic material, like the genetic material taken from the lungs of these people, which contains endless other genetic material, and not only what you claim is causing the problem.
And what it does then, this tiny amount of genetic material, it amplifies it.
It blows it up, in other words.
And the more it amplifies, the more of the content of this genetic material is opened to the test, to test positive for.
Not a virus for different aspects of this genetic material, which vast numbers of people have in their bodies.
Now, this is a crucial part of the scam, the amplification.
Because there was a New York Times article recently, which looked at...
Evidence from a state laboratory in New York and also another laboratory in Massachusetts at the amplification.
I remember the one in Massachusetts.
They said if you amplify the PCR test 30 times, you get a certain number of Of positives, because you opened up a certain amount of genetic material for the test to be bigger.
But if you do it 40 times, you get massively more.
In fact, the Massachusetts figures said that if you amplify the test 30 times, You get between 85% and 90% fewer positives than if you amplified 40 cycles.
And in Britain, we're not alone, but in Britain, the National Health Service, I've seen the documents.
They're amplifying the PCR test 45 times.
So they're bringing out so much of genetic material in the sample that people are pinging positive all over the place.
There's nothing wrong with them.
It's not testing for the virus.
It's a pandemic.
This is why you've got the vast, vast majority of people that test positive have no symptoms because there's nothing wrong with them.
But they're a case.
And then what happens is Once you've tested positive with a test not testing for the virus, this is where all the cases are coming from now, producing all that, oh, we must lock down.
Once you've tested positive, when you die of anything else, COVID-19 goes on the death certificate.
Right. You know, you've got these incentives in America through Medicare who pay hospitals $4,600 if they diagnose regular pneumonia, $13,000 if they diagnose COVID-19 pneumonia from the same symptoms, and $39,000 for every patient they've designated COVID-19 that they put on a ventilator, which has killed a lot of people because it's a last resort and very dangerous.
So if we take that, this all started in China.
But the crucial thing about China, In that initial outbreak was that the Chinese reaction became the blueprint for everywhere else.
So that reaction was draconian lockdown and fascistic imposition and control.
And immediately that started In Wuhan and China.
Tedros, the mouthpiece for Gates at the World Health Organization, said China should be the blueprint for how the West respond.
But they had a problem, really, because China is China.
It's a long way away from most Western countries.
And it's still China.
It's somewhere over the rainbow.
They needed an example of In the West, to frighten the West, because people could then relate to it.
Well, it can happen there, it can happen to me.
And they picked Italy. And where did they pick?
They picked Northern Italy and an area called Lombardi.
What is Lombardy infamous for?
It's toxic air, which leads to a lot of respiratory disease.
And so the process started again, diagnosing respiratory disease as COVID-19 and the PCR test and the diagnosis from symptoms to get the cases.
And when you've had that big crisis, which was designed to frighten the bloody life out of the West so that they conform, You have the Italian health authorities coming out and saying, actually, 99% of people we say died of COVID-19 actually had other comorbidities, reasons to die. And only, I think they said 12%, we would say, could be designated COVID-19.
I would question that as well.
How did Italy react to that?
Same as China. Big lockdown.
This became the process throughout the West.
Because it's centrally coordinated from the World Health Organization, It issues guidance and then countries follow the guidance.
This whole network has been created by the World Health Organization issuing guidance.
And then in the different countries, the chief medical officers imposing the World Health Organization guidance upon the population.
So we had a situation a few weeks ago, just a very few weeks ago, where the World Health Organization said children over 12 should wear masks.
Within 24 hours, 48 hours, the leader of the Scottish Government had said, all 12-year-olds wear masks in Scotland, schools and stuff.
Well, why? Well, guidance from the World Health Organization.
Then Johnson, the British Prime Minister, followed about 24-48 hours after her and said the same.
Because it's all centrally coordinated.
And you're hearing politicians all the time saying, we're being guided by the science.
They're not being guided by the science.
They're being controlled in their policy.
By the technocrats, these medical technocrats, like chief medical officers and science advisors.
And they're invariably in bed financially with Bill Gates, which owns the World Health Organization where it's coming out of.
So it's a whole global scam.
It is. And so when you identify, and for myself and a lot of the folks watching, we, of course, identified this as a scam very early on.
But then you ask the question, and this is what a lot of people struggle with when they first, you know, come to, you know, come to Jesus moment and wow, okay, this is a scam.
The question then becomes why?
How is this part of the bigger agenda?
Oh, yeah, that can be explained.
For a long time, it must be 20 years more now, I've been describing the society that they want to take us into as the Hunger Games Society, obviously after the Hunger Games movies, which were based on a tiny elite dictating to a poverty-stricken, dependent population.
That's exactly the structure we're being taken into.
So if people visualize a pyramid, a structure of society, at the top of the pyramid, you've got these tiny few people.
We'll call them the 1% for want of a term.
At the bottom of the pyramid, this is where they want it to go.
You have virtually the rest of the population who are under the control of the 1% because of dependency on the 1% to survive.
You do what the 1% says or you don't survive.
And in between the 1% of the population is planned to be not just a police state, but a police military state that will impose the will of the 1% on the population and stop the population rebelling against the 1%.
That's the structure.
And I emphasize, I've been talking about this structure now for 20 bloody years.
Now, if you look at what's happened in 2020 as a result of this pandemic hoax, the boxes of that society have been ticked one after the other after the other.
So people say, why did they have this lockdown when they knew?
Of course they knew, anyone knew.
But it was going to be devastating for the global economy and destroy vast amounts of people's livelihoods.
We've seen with the Sweden example where they didn't lock down, that lockdown or not lockdown is irrelevant to this, quote, virus and the figures, because the figures are coming from other sources, they're coming from lockdown or non-lockdown.
Where the lockdown is highly significant is the lockdown has killed vast numbers of people, not least old people, and not from COVID-19 either.
And, you know, I could talk about that at Lenthal.
That's worked. But the point being that having the lockdown has destroyed people's livelihoods and people's jobs and people's businesses.
And they're not Amazon.
They're not the major global corporations owned by the cult.
They're mom-and-pop businesses and even much, much bigger businesses that are not owned by the cult.
If you want to create that situation of total dependency by the population on the 1%, crucial foundation to that is you have to destroy the independent livelihoods of the population because while they've got them, they're not dependent on you. So what they've done is systematically destroyed the economy.
What they're trying to do now as we go into the Northern Hemisphere winter is to finish off those businesses that have somehow held on by their fingertips as a result of the first lockdown period because they want rid of them, because they want this dependency.
And so you've got that massively part of why they've done it.
Let me just stop you there real quick because it's interesting when I say this and when you say this, we are labeled crazy right-wing nutjobs or conspiracy theorists, but officials themselves within the UN, Christiana Figueres, for example, she made numerous statements where she said, and this was in regards to climate change, that it has almost nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with the system and bringing the system down.
We have quotes from the Rockefellers that it's their job, and Maurice Strong's of the world, it's their job to bring an end to the industrialized world, essentially bringing an end to Western civilization.
They have to bring an end to Western civilization if they want to achieve global governance and this convergence of communism, fascism into a technocracy.
They have to destroy it, and this is what I see we're seeing.
Yeah, I completely agree.
And this is particularly an attack on Western civilization, Western society, because they want to bring down Western society, and then they'll start picking off other cultures, because what they want is a global monoculture.
They don't want all these different diverse cultures and ways of living.
Diversity is our strength, really.
A monoculture.
So the attack on men, I explain in my new book the answer why the attack on men is happening, but the attack on men has big ulterior motives in other aspects of this agenda.
The attack on white people, this reverse racism, that's happening because what is the majority racial type of Western society?
It's white people. So they're attacking that because they're attacking Western society.
I'm not a Christian. Be my guest if you want to be.
It's none of my business. But what we need to do is put aside what we think and just look at how things are.
Why are they trying to destroy Christianity?
They're trying to destroy Christianity because of the way Western society has developed, fundamentally weaved Through Western society and our ways of doing things, etc., is Christianity.
So they want to destroy that.
And I'll tell you something else very quickly.
I do mention it in the answer.
Certainly in Britain and, you know, to an extent around the Commonwealth, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc., The structure, and by the way, I'm no bloody royalist either, to say the least, but the structure of the society, particularly British society, is woven with royalty as it's woven with Christianity.
And once this...
The generation of the Queen and Prince Philip, that generation, once that's gone, and it must go pretty soon, given their age, you're going to see the undermining and dismantling of royalty as well as part of this demolition.
Of Western society.
And so when you look at the climate change hoax and you look at the pandemic hoax, clearly they're both being perpetrated by the same force.
Same models. Yeah, because look at the outcome.
What are the solutions to human-caused climate change?
They want us to believe. What are the solutions to the pandemic hoax?
They want us to believe. They are centralization of power and transformation of human society in what they call the Great Reset.
And the Great Reset, of course, is a phrase that's long been used by the 1% Fest, the World Economic Forum, to describe the new economic system.
Wherever you look, In this pandemic hoax, you're ticking boxes.
As long ago as, what, 1994, 93-94, I was writing about the plan to delete cash, to delete cash and create a one-world currency that would be purely electronic.
And what did Tedros, in other words, Gates, say very early on in this pandemic hoax?
You can get the virus from cash, so it's best to use credit cards.
Ah! Okay, well, if you can get it from cash, you can get it from newspapers.
Oh, no, no, you can't get it from newspapers.
The newspapers wanted to tell us, but you can get it from cash.
Why do we sell newspapers that are not cash?
And so what's happened is cash has just...
Disappeared at a vast rate during this period, exactly as planned.
And I go to places where normally it was all cash.
Oh, I want a cup of coffee.
Oh, it's cash. Or this is cash.
They won't take cash anymore.
They want the car because they're frightened of the virus.
So the whole pandemic hoax has been a box ticking exercise for the entirety of this pandemic.
This Hunger Games Society in all its facets and forms.
And of course, the other thing that this Hunger Games Society would include is 24-7 fine detail surveillance.
So now they're using the pandemic and the apps and track and trace to bring in a 24-7, wherever you go, tracking system.
ID2020. Yeah, exactly that.
And then the real endgame, if you like, of this is to say that we've destroyed your normal and you ain't going back.
They don't want you to go back at all, but they're just telling you.
You're not going back until every man, woman and child on the planet has been vaccinated with a vaccine coming out of the Gates network again.
And I've said from the very start of this pandemic, In the spring, the vaccine contents already exist.
It existed before they played the hoax.
The hoax is a problem-reaction solution to offer the solution, which is the vaccine, which is the contents of which have long been known.
And so what you have is an exercise now in Making the time between when they're supposed to have started looking for a vaccine, which was, what, January time, to actually bringing it out, being as short as possible, because they already know what's going to be in it, as short as possible, without alerting too many people to, hold on a minute, doesn't it take 10, 15 years to develop a vaccine, even those that cause damage to people?
What's happening? You've got to do it in less than a year?
What's happening? So they're kind of Pushing it out as far as they can.
But of course, they want it active and inside people as quickly as possible.
Because the longer they leave it, the more time there is for more and more people to suss.
There's a scam going on. And I do feel, I don't know what you get in Canada, but I do find, you know, talking to people, they are going to have some serious pushback on this vaccine.
And the idea is, well, okay, you don't have it.
Then all these things that are part of normal life, you ain't going to be able to do them.
Including employment.
Exactly. Exactly.
No, the sooner we all wake up, the better.
And I've got to hand it to you, David.
I know we agreed to an hour, and we're on that hour point now.
But I have to hand it to you.
You are an extremely loud voice in this, and we need people like yourself, and it's greatly appreciated what you're doing.
And I realize you're sort of used to sticking your head up to be chopped off, but you inspire a lot of other folks like myself and many others to do just the same.
And I can't tell you how appreciative I am of that and the work that you've done.
Please don't stop.
Oh, no way. No way.
The more people try to stop me, the faster I run at them.
And the thing is about having your head chopped off when it's still here.
You know, it's amazing what you can achieve if you won't compromise.
If you're prepared to compromise your principles, so, well, I don't want to send my kids to school and have masks on all day, but my circumstances, I've got to.
What I found in my life is if you set your Limits of what you will do and won't do.
In other words, I'm not sending my child to school to wear a mask all day, which will very, very much cumulatively endanger my child's health.
I'm not doing that. So, somehow, that is not going to be compromised.
And what you find then is what you thought you had to do because of your circumstances, what happens when you say, I'm not doing it?
Other things appear and happen in your life which allow you to have those principles and not, as you thought, have to do what they tell you.
I'm someone now, how many months are we into this nonsense?
I've never worn a mask.
I've never given my details in track and trace.
I've never put that toxic stuff on your hand, whether the Food and Drug Administration have named 75 brands that could make you blind or kill you.
And I've got social distance.
I go about my life normally.
And if people want to dart away from me in the street, well, okay, that's their choice.
That's fine. But I'm not going to dart away from them because I'm frightened of them.
Why should I? And, you know, these are the things that if vast numbers of people did them, it would be over, you know.
In fact, this is my solution to COVID-19.
What would change it overnight?
Make it disappear. One, stop testing.
Stop being tested.
Because even if you test positive, it's with a test, not testing for a virus, right?
And two, stop fixing the death certificates.
I'll tell you a couple of things.
I'll tell you a couple of things. It's quite funny, mate.
When you see them, I mean, it's a real head shaker.
The flu deaths...
Casey's deaths in Australia for 2019, because we're now in the winter, the southern hemisphere.
I like that.
The flu deaths for 2020, I like that.
But COVID-19 has gone up.
But flu has gone away.
In South Africa, also, of course, in the Southern Hemisphere, flu's disappeared this winter.
In the province in South Africa, that includes the biggest city, Johannesburg, in the capital, Pretoria.
I saw this about two weeks ago.
They've had one case of flu.
One! But COVID-19, what are they doing?
They're really designating flu COVID-19.
This is where the numbers are coming from.
And by the way, about...
Six weeks before this kicked off in China, Bill Gates, the World Economic Forum, and the Johns Hopkins medical operation in America held a simulation of a coronavirus pandemic.
You can see it on the internet.
And how they simulated it is exactly what's happened since it kicked off in China.
And who is counting the global figures For cases and deaths, which the media are repeating without question, the Johns Hopkins University medical operation.
It's a scam!
The power of no is what is going to bring this to an end.
No, I'm not cooperating with our own enslavement.
So I can see that what you're telling me to do is purely about control and enslavement.
Therefore, I'm not doing it.
Enough people do it. It's game over.
There's not enough of them to enforce it.
Absolutely. David, I have one more question for you, and it's basically out of personal interest.
So... Of course, on my channel and throughout my social media networks, I have a lot of folks that are fairly dedicated to the Q movement.
I'm not one of them.
And while I don't denounce the movement, I haven't joined it, I'm not on board with trusting anybody's plan.
It's just not who I am.
What are your thoughts on the Q and what's your perception?
Right. Well, I get asked this quite a lot.
And, you know, there are some benefits in being on this road for 30 years, as I have been.
And one of them is you see the cycles.
You see the cycles of what comes and goes, comes and goes, comes and goes.
And I'll tell you, over 30 years, I've seen...
What is claimed for the Q movement come and go under different names quite a number of times.
And I've called previous ones out in my books here and there, in one book in some detail, where they are saying, this is the thing, you know, and I'm not saying there's not a lot of genuine people, not saying that for a second.
I'm saying, look, Look at the outcome.
Who benefits? And what it's basically saying, and what all these other versions of it under other names that I've come across over the years are saying is, basically, you don't have to do anything.
Just relax. It's all in hand.
The plan is in hand. And this has come and gone so many times.
And to the point where there have been people coming out saying, oh yeah, Rockefeller, Rothschild, you know, all these people, Kissinger, they're all going to be arrested.
And they give a date when it's going to happen.
And I've said on my website these times, you know, years ago, it's not going to happen.
Oh, it is. It's going to happen.
Oh, yeah. And they keep it as simple as possible.
The good guys and the bad guys.
The good guys in the system are going to arrest the bad guys and stop the bad guys.
And what's happened is these dates when it's going to happen have come and gone.
And by the way, if you are going to do that, Why are you making it public and telling them?
Why don't you just do it?
Because they don't. And then that dies down.
Another one comes in. And it's the same theme.
You don't have to do anything, basically.
Just chill. It's all in hand.
Well, it's not all in hand because that which is going to bring this down is the people.
Not good guys and bad guys in the system arresting each other.
It's not going to happen like that. It's going to happen because people say no on a scale that is unchallengeable and makes the agenda unenforceable.
That's what's going to happen. We won't have people...
in vast numbers if vast numbers of people refuse the vaccine.
And if vast numbers of people refuse the vaccine, well, are they going to keep them, all of
them under house arrest?
They can't do this, can't do that.
No, it's the people ceasing to acquiesce and cooperate with their own enslavement.
That's what's going to bring it down.
And that's not, oh, just chill.
Everything's fine. Don't worry about it.
No, no, no. Don't chill.
Don't chill. Exactly.
Well, it plays into this whole situation that, especially the Western world, we've been spoiled, we've been lulled to sleep, we've been comfortable, and we haven't had to fight for any of our freedoms, we didn't think.
And now, all of a sudden, we're telling people, okay, now is the time that you have to exercise those rights that are so important.
Now is the time that you have to stand up.
And they don't know how to do that.
They don't know how to say no.
It's something that, you know, again, they're going to be forced to have to do.
It just depends how far along they get in this agenda before that critical mass wakes up and says no, because then we win.
People forget how much power we have if we're united, if we're together and we have mass.
Exactly. But fascism happens wherever it happens.
Because people say yes to fascists.
That's how it happens.
If people say no to fascists, then the numbers alone mean the fascists can't prevail.
It's that simple.
But of course, for enough people to say no to fascists, they've got to grow a pair and stiffen the backbone.
And stand up for what they believe in and not just talk about it.
And that's the next challenge.
People moving from seeing it to ceasing to engage with it.
And that is the stage that the cult is terrified of.
It is, and that's the mountain that folks like us have to climb, and I'm more than willing to climb it right beside you, my friend.
Me too. So, you know what?
We're at it for about an hour and 15.
We agreed with an hour.
We could probably sit and talk for four hours, and I would love to do that at some point.
I definitely want to have you on again, David.
It was a fantastic discussion.
I know a lot of folks in Canada were looking forward to this and appreciate you coming on and lending us your time.
As short as it is, I imagine you're pretty busy.
Yeah, I'm doing interviews all the time, all over the world, because we're in a window now where we have to get this information out.
I think it's October the 17th.
I'm a little bit vague with this, because so many things are happening.
But I will not be vague when we get close to the date.
But I'm going to be speaking, actually, at anti-lockdown rallies in Canada, a couple, ones in Vancouver.
And the other one in Montreal or Toronto?
I think it's Toronto.
Toronto, yeah, it would be.
Toronto and Vancouver.
And so I'm going to be talking on a screen then at...
Both on, I think it's October 17th, Saturday.
So that'll be great.
And, you know, because, you know, we're a human family.
It doesn't matter where you're born.
It doesn't matter what your culture is, your background is.
We're all the human family.
We're all the same consciousness having different experiences.
And the more we divide it, the more we'll be ruled.
The more we refuse to be divided, the less we can be ruled.
And so it's important, vital that We come together as a global family to meet a global challenge because that's what it is.
Absolutely. Couldn't have said it better myself.
Great way to end. Thank you very much, David, and I look forward to our next visit.
Oh, it's been a real pleasure. Thank you very much.
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