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Oct. 23, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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The Clown Car Rolls on and the World is closer than ever to an escalating War
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You want to listen to a podcast?
By who?
Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
How is it?
The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
I could not believe my ears.
In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Welcome back to the podcast.
It's Monday.
It's the way to start the week.
Glad you're with us.
Today, after the break, we're going to dive into really the only two topics that are out there that really need to.
And essentially, the compass for the week.
And I've been watching.
I've been out.
As many of you know, last week I had to...
Be gone for Air Force.
I've been also traveling a good bit.
A lot of things to pick up on, but the two issues that are on everybody's mind right now is number one world situation.
That is Israel, the issue in Gaza, and the issue with Hezbollah, Lebanon, Hezbollah.
We're gonna dive into that a little bit as we go this morning, but also then we're gonna deal with what has become nothing short of Barman Bailey Circus revisiting itself and finding itself again.
In the halls of Congress, and as Chip Blake pretty well accurately predicted two weeks ago, that we'd probably still be looking for a speaker at this point.
Well, guess what?
We're still looking for a speaker.
So anyway, after the break, we're going to jump into these details.
Everything else is, again, paling in comparison to these two stories that are out there, but I want you to have the best knowledge, best results for what is coming up.
So right after the break, let's dive in.
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Okay, we're back.
Let's first off deal with, I tell you what, let's deal with the speakers race first.
It's sort of a flip tie to figure out which one to talk about first.
But let's deal with the speakers race.
Since we discussed this last, which I believe would have been last Monday, The week has progressed.
We have seen...
Now, let's catch everybody up, okay?
Because some of you, hopefully, may not have been living and breathing on everything that has happened in the U.S. House Republican Caucus in the last few weeks.
Twenty days ago, Matt Gaetz, along with seven other Republicans and all of the Democrats, voted to oust Kevin McCarthy from the Speaker's chair.
That set off a situation which was, as I've explained here on this podcast before, is like a shutdown of government except only for the House of Representatives.
Now, they can have little hearings, they can do a couple of things, but really for the most part, the House of Representatives has basically been shut down for 20 days today.
Tomorrow will be 21. To remind you that they just signed a CR that was for 45 days.
We have now successfully eat up almost, well, we're half, pretty close to half of the CR. CR. Now, let's take a real quick detour here.
What does that mean?
That means that there's less than three weeks for them to come together, get a speaker, and then figure out what to do about the spending, which I will predict here on the podcast will be, hey, guess what?
Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
Another CR. That's all they can do right now.
They cannot get together and pass all 12 appropriations bills, even if they wanted to.
Number two, Senate's not going to be able to probably pass theirs out.
They're not going to because you're going to have some face-off in there with the Senate and Senate Republicans.
Even if they did, then you're going to have to have a negotiation process on all the bills.
And then you either lead up, which would lead you very close to this time frame of the 20-something days now left in a CR. And I want you to understand this, folks.
This is not easy stuff.
For those of you out there, and I know I've got people who listen to this podcast.
If you don't like it, go to the DuckOmsPodcast.com, hit the email button, and tell me all about it.
Okay, I'll hear your suggestion.
But there's not an easy button out there that only exists in commercials on TV. You cannot solve the budget problem with a 1% across the board, a 5% across the board.
You can't solve it immediately by doing away with departments that, number one, you'll never be able to do away with.
Education, energy, commerce, all these, you're not going to be able to do away with them.
Not going to happen.
And if you want to stay out and shut down the government, I actually saw one very brilliant report today on Twitter.
I still call it Twitter, X, whatever it is.
They said, well, today's at least another day we don't spend $500 billion by not having a speaker.
Excuse me?
What in the world are you talking about?
The government is still functioning.
Everybody else except the House of Representatives.
And by the way, all the House members and everybody else is getting paid.
So it's just they're getting paid.
They're not doing anything right now.
And I get that issue here.
But you're not saving $500 billion.
If you're trying to say projected outspending for maybe what we're going to get to later, the Israeli conflict, the Ukrainian conflict or anything else, then okay, maybe that's what you're talking about.
But don't follow the clickbait.
There's too much out there.
And it's Monday, and I've been traveling for a while.
I've been having to deal with real-world situations in our country through our services.
But I'm tired of it.
I'm tired of the clickbait.
Okay?
You're not going to get everything you want in life.
Wake up and smell the roses.
Do we need to change in Washington, D.C.? Yes.
Did I try to get that happen when I was here?
Yes.
Is it very hard?
Yes.
It's not easy.
That rant over.
Kevin McCarthy gets dumped.
They look at who can become speaker.
They go to their conference and they pick Steve Scalise to be the Speaker nominee.
After Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, they pick up, they look at, that's who they're going to pick.
They pick Steve Scalise.
Steve Scalise spent less than 48 hours as Speaker-designate and then realized he doesn't have the votes.
So, instead of taking it to the floor and continuing the clown show that is developing, unfortunately, up there right now, and it hurts me dearly because a lot of these are dear friends of mine.
And this can get better.
And it should get better.
Steve pulled it out without having to go to the floor and vote.
That put Jim Jordan into the seat.
I mean, it seems like it's been taking forever here to get this to happen.
But Jim Jordan became the Speaker nominee on a Barely beating, not barely beating, but he beat Austin Scott, a very good friend of mine who tried to run.
Jim's a good friend, but it was essentially Austin had never even planned to run for Speaker.
He decided overnight to run for Speaker and got 84 votes.
Jim got 100 and I think it was 14 or 120, somewhere in that range.
Again, nowhere close to the 217 needed.
And for all the bluster that was saying, well, we need 217 before we go to the floor, all of a sudden, Jim and the group that elected Jim said, no, we're not going to do that.
We're going to go to the floor.
And what then proceeded was votes on the floor in which Jim Jordan progressively got worse.
In fact, getting the lowest number of votes ever for a speaker total in the modern era since the speakership went to the total number we have now.
It was getting ready to get worse.
After last week, the conference came together.
After the third defeat in which Jim lost more votes, some of the folks actually said, well, y'all thought it was going to lose 30 votes.
He only lost three or four.
Either way, you're going backwards here.
Wrong trajectory.
They went into the conference and by secret ballot, voted Jim to no longer be by a substantial margin, basically flipping the numbers from when he was actually elected to say, you're no longer the speaker-designate.
So after...
Berating of members, actual...
And again, Jim Jordan personally did not, but many in the understanding of the groups around thought Jim was the best thing.
Jim had been mentioned for speaker for years and years and years up there.
But due to a lot of internal Republican politics, and I'll leave it at that...
Many, including myself, always knew that Jim would have a very hard time getting the final number to get 217. Now, I like Jim.
I like a lot of what Jim stands for, and he and I can agree on a lot of things.
He and I worked hand in glove on the impeachment process.
We worked hand in glove on a lot of other things.
But due to past experiences of internal politics, like I said, that Jim was not supportive of in the past, came back to be realized, which most of us knew was coming.
So once Jim Jordan last week was taken out of the speaker-designate role, There's been many conversations about what to do.
The latest of which is where we're at right now.
And that is, after that happened, they just opened it all back up again.
Yesterday by 12, everybody had to have their name in for if they're going to run for speaker.
I believe there's eight now as we speak.
Going to run for speaker.
Yes, you heard me correctly.
Eight.
Most of them have absolutely no hope of becoming speaker.
But this just shows you how divided right now the conference is.
Tom Emmer, Byron Donalds, you know, Austin Scott got 88 votes early.
You have to throw Austin in there.
You got Mike Johnson out of Louisiana, which I've mentioned on this show before.
I mean, there are people out there who have resumes that can be, you know, to be speaker.
The question is, can they come about and get it to happen?
At this point, I don't know.
I don't know how long we can continue to do this.
Well, theoretically, we could continue to do it all the way, I guess, to the shutdown in November 17th, which is when the CR runs out.
But this is becoming the problem.
I wanted to lay all of that out there to let you know.
As I stated on a, and some of you may have saw this on my social media, I did an interview last week in which I compared this on Fox to a class president fight.
Many of you have no idea.
And again, this is never...
The speaker fight, our speaker election has never been a nationalized thing up until the last 15 years.
Okay?
It just had.
And it just shows you how frustrated our politics are these days.
That now an election basically to elect the internal leadership of the House, which again affects everything.
I'm not making light of this.
It has become a national political story in which you have conservative groups, you have outside sources weighing in.
I can safely say outside of spending bills, my office when I was in Congress never got more calls on almost anything than the speaker vote, in which I would ask people sometimes, especially when we had a divide, you need to vote for X. And I would ask them, do you know X? Do you know this person that you're asking me to vote for?
No, but everything I've heard sounds good.
Do you know them?
Okay, folks, again, without betraying confidence, which I'll never do of former colleagues, a lot of it's been written about, you can go read about it.
There is deep division on how to govern, all having the same conservative principles.
This is where I've talked about strategy and tactics before.
Strategy is to make government smaller, make government less expensive, and to put more freedom back into the hands of people, lowering taxes, doing those kind of things.
Tactics, however, are how do you do that?
Well, some will say, well, you can just slash the budget 20%.
Well, it'll never happen.
So that's a tactic that will lead you maybe to a lot of people saying, yay, that's a great thing.
The reality is we'll lie to you if we actually say that can happen.
It's about like what I said about a week or two ago when I talked about all the members who voted to do something in a House budget, knowing it'll never satisfy in a combined budget when actually the end result is there.
So it's very wrong to say I don't.
Did something.
Instead, you should say, I voted for this.
May not happen, but I voted for this.
Again, political posturing is at its height right now.
So, as you look at this, you know, going forward, the question becomes, not so much, are there a difference in, and I'm just, again, getting so tired of hearing some of these, you know, rhinos, non-rhinos, and people putting out scorecards.
Let me also tell you a little bit about scorecards while we're at it.
Scorecards only but only reflect certain votes on certain things.
In other words, a very large bill like a spending bill, which could have a lot of things in it that are very, very good, have one or two things that policy-wise I or other members may not agree with.
But again, a group who puts out a scorecard doesn't have to deal with the nuances of a bill.
They only have to deal with what their donors tell them that they want to deal with.
And so they will mark a – they'll take one piece out of a bill and say that if you vote for this, then you are – Against everything that is conservative.
So, again, many times look beyond the scorecard.
Look beyond what is actually being asked about in the scorecard.
These are things that, again, if you want to give money to these folks and you want to keep putting out scorecards that supposedly represent the true conservative values or true liberal values, I'll take on both sides, then go ahead and go at it.
But just know what you're talking about.
I hear these people know, well, my heritage score, my Planned Parenthood score, again, my Liberty score, whatever.
Again, that's a snapshot of certain votes That take into account no bigger picture of maybe what's on the bills or not on the bills.
Are these organizations good people?
Yes, they're good people.
But again, if you're trying to emphasize one part of 1% of something in a bill or a bill, now there's some bills that are, I mean, I understand completely why you would want to, like abortion or Planned Parenthood or, you know, some debt ceiling issues.
Again, the real issues here are much more nuanced and much more complex than many times we like it.
That's why it's presented many times.
Here's your simple scorecard.
You must be a, quote, rhino.
Or this is your scorecard.
You must be good.
Again, it's also can you get stuff done.
And see, these scorecards never take into account getting stuff done, even if it's a very good conservative bill, such as the ones who voted against an 8% across the board cut on a CR right before they took out Kevin McCarthy as speaker.
How in the world, and again, I'm not a big CR fan myself, but if you take 8% off and you send over to the Senate with some strategic action on the border and others, and then they send back still, say, a 7% cut or a 4% cut, and then they actually add in some of the issues on the border, you've won, folks, for 45 days.
You haven't lost.
There's still time to fight these other issues.
All of this said, It can be safely said.
I've never seen the Republican conference this fractured.
And I think it's going to be not just this vote.
And I want to make this clear.
They will eventually hopefully find a speaker.
Okay, I used to say they will.
Now I'm hopefully they're going to find one.
And it may come in different forms, but they'll find one.
But the real problem is going to come when this CR comes back up in November 17th, when the FAA reauthorization comes up, when the Farm Bill reauthorization comes up, when the FISA, which by the way, many of you are interested in, this is the secret court that we use for terrorism, supposedly, but yet at a certain point in time, we have found the breaches from the FBI in falsely reporting to the FISA court.
So these are all issues that need to be handled.
With the bitterness that's going on right now in the Republican conference, again, remember, the House of Representatives is a pure majority body.
If the majority can't get their stuff together, then the whole place is just, you know, shut down.
And bringing bills to the floor becomes almost impossible unless you wanted a true bipartisan representation, which right now seems to be out the door.
These are all issues that have to be made.
The bad, bitter taste that is in the mouth of most of the members is they're flying back to Washington, D.C. today for a 630 conference to let all these seven or eight, nine speakers, candidates, talk about what they want to do and then vote on it.
And by the way, how they do this is they'll vote on all nine and the lowest one falls off.
So it could take several votes to get down to the final two.
And then when the final two happens, again, watch for the number.
I mean, if this is another 114 to 88, you got a problem here.
Okay?
So if it's Tom Emmer, Byron Donalds, Mike Johnson, Austin Scott, whoever this may be, you got a number that you still got to overcome.
So I don't think this is going to be a quick thing.
My hope is that by the time of Friday Finest, we'll actually have a speaker, but I'm not going to guarantee it.
As we go forward.
So there's your primer today.
I'm not going to get into the personalities of these candidates.
You can see what's going on in the news.
But understand, this is not as simple as some of the reporters are making out.
Just simply vote for this one, simply vote for that one.
This is 12 years of built-up frustration among many in the conference, both.
However you want to say it, middle road, far conservative, less conservative, more moderate, whatever, Biden districts, Trump districts, it doesn't matter.
This has been building for 12 years.
This is not a new occurrence.
Do not let anybody trick you into saying this is a new occurrence.
It is not.
All right, switching gears.
Israel, let me give you this, just a broad overview.
Are we in a concerning area in the Israel conflict?
Yes, we are.
And not necessarily for the reasons you think.
The biggest reason is not necessarily what's going to go on in Gaza, which is also a different story if you just look at the published reports and everything else.
Israel is bombing targets.
Again, Hamas is a bunch of terrorist cowards who hide behind kindergartens, who hide behind mosques and churches.
Whatever purpose of their statement for their land, and I saw some young person in Atlanta just this week that was at Cribut Atlanta, who probably has, again, I don't know this, but looked young enough to have probably never lived in Israel or Palestine to say what they did is good.
They're simply trying to take our land back.
Okay.
Why are you here?
I mean, with all the population that is so wrapped around the axle about what is going on in Palestine, why are you in the United States enjoying all the freedoms here?
Shouldn't you, if you feel that strongly about it, go back to, if you want to go back there to Palestine, to Israel or Gaza or, you know, anywhere along these areas, West Bank, and live, go right ahead.
By the way, people, you may not know this, but there are Israeli citizens that are Palestinian that are Christian.
There are Israeli citizens that are Palestinian that are Muslim.
Again, it's not the Palestinian people per se.
It is the terrorist thugs that have overtaken the governments in Gaza and also the Iran-backed Hezbollah.
It's also in Gaza City.
Again, until they quit electing terrorists who dig up water pipes that they were given on humanitarian aid to make mortars, this will continue.
So, you know, again, history has shown us that this kind of action does not work, just like it did in the speaker's race when people were saying, well, we can just pressure our individuals to go vote for whoever we want, Jim Jordan or whoever.
We'll just pressure them and try to make them look bad back in their district.
And when they ended up getting death threats, again, it just showed that this is not a good plan.
So Hamas, terrorist thugs, period.
Palestinian people, personally, no problem with it.
And I think most Israelis are looking for a peaceful solution.
In other words, don't keep lobbing mortars at us.
We can continue to talk about peaceful solutions to how we can all get along.
And I'm not ignoring the issues with Israel.
They have to be, you know, in this game as well.
But they have every right to defend themselves.
They have every right to be proactively in defending themselves because it is not Israel who sits there and shoots mortar rockets into gauze every day.
Now, it has been slow, methodical.
If they go in...
To Gaza, it will be a long process.
They're preparing for that.
Published reports are saying that.
The concern is the Iran piece here.
We have seen attacks on American bases.
We have seen a report even this morning of a published report that the Non-essential personnel are being evacuated out of Baghdad in Iraq.
You're seeing the biggest threat, which would be Iranian-backed Hezbollah in Lebanon to the north.
They're much better equipped, they're a larger force than Hamas, and have been skirmishing with Israel for years on that northern Lebanese border.
The concern of anybody watching this from a 30,000-foot view is, in Lebanon, Hezbollah has said they're reacting in proportion to what's going on in Gaza.
So if you think that into a concern here, whatever Israel does in Gaza, The Lebanon Hezbollah has said they were going to retaliate in kind in northern Israel.
In other words, a two-front war.
The Israeli ambassador to the U.S. was talking about this morning, that they have fought two-front wars.
Is it easy?
No, it's not.
And especially in today's environment when you have Iran putting forth more modernized weapons, and Hezbollah to the north has a lot of this.
This could be an interesting development as you go forward.
Also, with these published attacks that we've seen on our bases, also the taking down of cruise missiles coming out of Yemen off of a Navy vessel from our Navy vessel took it down.
These are all things that are building in this area.
Now, behind the scenes, you've got China.
China and Russia seem to be more...
Enjoying the process here, if you would, of seeing Israel and also the United States, again, tied into another situation, just like the Ukraine, which, by the way, let's also get this out of the way, Ukraine and Israel have to be separated here.
I know that the President wants to keep these all together, but they really cannot.
There's a difference in level, and I've said this on this podcast many times, Ukraine, China, all are very important, but the Middle East has always been upside down, and it's upside down again.
I mean, again, the biggest issue you have here, in some ways, could be very similar to China and Taiwan, in the sense that China doesn't believe Taiwan should exist as an independent state.
Take it 500 steps further, Iran and others, Hamas, Hezbollah, believe that Israel shouldn't exist, period.
And that the people shouldn't exist, period.
So, being a very different format going on here, but please, out there, if you're watching and you're concerned about this, I'll just say this, be in prayer for our country, be in prayer for the world.
This is a piece of Israel and Jerusalem in that Middle East section there, which is a powder keg of problems right now and continuing to be problems.
Don't get distracted by what...
You know, everywhere else.
Now, could China also influence this?
You know, there's been some concerns about them playing in the South China Sea.
Southeast Asia with Taiwan is always on the table.
So, as you look at this, just be aware that this is a problem that could, at this point, looks likely to get worse before it ever gets better after the just amazingly...
Uh, brutal and heinous attack by the thugs of Hamas.
Um...
You know, who just rape, pillage, and plunder.
These people are just animals.
I mean, there's nothing brings good out of this, except just the pent-up rage, and that's exactly what we saw here.
So Israel's got a lot.
The United States has moved forces publicly into the region.
Just know it.
Watch it.
I think that's going to be the biggest question we have.
We'll continue to update it here on the podcast throughout the week, but right now we're getting closer and closer to the...
Situation developing in a way that is going to be dragging in more and more players.
So this is going to be a problem.
It is a problem.
It is something that we all need to be aware of.
I wish the Dubai administration, quoting Jack Keene, former general, earlier today on a show that I saw, we've been getting these Iranian-backed militia groups from all over Iraq, Yemen, other places, You know, and Hezbollah, Hamas, and all have been, you know, just pot-shotting at American targets for years now.
We've not been very forceful in coming back.
My hope is that they continue these, that we will see a forceful response that says, look, you can continue to do this, but we're not going to stand by and just let you take pot-shots at us.
This will be something to watch as the week progresses.
But that's your Monday update here on the Doug Collins Podcast.
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