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Oct. 23, 2023 - Doug Collins Podcast
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You want to listen to a podcast?
By who?
Georgia GOP Congressman Doug Collins.
How is it?
The greatest thing I have ever heard in my whole life.
I could not believe my ears.
In this house, wherever the rules are disregarded, chaos and mob rule.
It has been said today, where is bravery?
I'll tell you where bravery is found and courage is found.
It's found in this minority who has lived through the last year of nothing but rules being broken, people being put down, questions not being answered, and this majority say, be damned with anything else.
We're going to impeach and do whatever we want to do.
Why?
Because we won an election.
I guarantee you, one day you'll be back in the minority and it ain't gonna be that fun.
Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.
Glad to have you with us today.
Just in a minute after the break, we're going to dig into continuing updates on what's going on in the House, what's going on in Israel, what's going on with just some of the responses that have been pretty amazing.
I've been watching over time about how the...
People have responded to the brutality that Hamas showed that just barbarianism that they did coming out of Gaza into Israel, taking out police stations, taking out concert goers, everything else.
So a lot left to go in this story.
It's building.
And I just want to build on what we've talked about a little bit on Monday and this past week on the podcast, just to build on it a little bit more.
So with that, we'll be back right after the break to get started.
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All right, we're back here on the podcast.
Just wanted to catch up a few things as we're taping.
Israel and the IDF are beginning at the very early stages of getting ready to go into full-blown ground offensive, it looks like, into Gaza.
By the time this podcast hits, which in the next day or so, it could have changed dramatically.
But I think what I want to focus on today is not what actually is heading out at this point.
The definite, you know, Ideas of who is doing what in Israel right now.
We know Israel is already leveled.
And I mean completely leveled parts of Gaza City.
And they told them they were.
This was not a surprise to anyone.
It shouldn't be a surprise to anyone in Gaza.
Gaza City shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who—I mean, again, they have allowed Hamas to live and infiltrate in every possible form into this area.
And you really, at a certain point in time, begin to—you feel for the civilians who are trapped there, who only want to just get up and live and live their lives in this situation.
But they have allowed and voted—well, they first initially voted in Hamas back in 07— But they've not changed.
They've not ever risen up to say, hey, we can live at peace in this region and not have to have all these restraints if we didn't have terrorists among us who we are allowing to put munitions into mosques, munitions into hospitals, munitions into daycares and everywhere else, thinking that they can actually just use the other Palestinians there as human shields.
This is the part that is so very frustrating.
What is more frustrating to me is also some of the discussions that have happened around.
And you have to go no further than our places of higher education.
Harvard right now is a bastion of just complete unhinged wokeness and liberalism.
I mean, I've got 31 organizations at Harvard.
Put out a statement supporting the Palestinians and supporting basically the rapes, pillage and plunder that Hamas did.
Okay.
No matter what you feel about the conditions in this area, no matter if you think that their walls ought to come down, that Israel's there, you've got to recognize Hamas is a terrorist organization, period.
End of statement, full stop.
Okay?
And their very charter is to kill Jews.
Okay?
They believe from the river to the sea that it should be all there and that basically Israel wiped off the map.
And you have highly educated people in Harvard who are siding with the rapist.
Who are siding with the people who are murdering senior citizens' children and others in their homes as they sleep or going into a concert in which you just randomly kill 250 to 300 people.
At what point is your mind so educatedly deprived that you can out say that that is okay?
That that is somehow helpful.
How is it that just allowing groups who want to have their way to be funded by the terrorists in Iran to just shoot random rockets into Israel from Gaza?
I mean, which happens on a regular basis.
Again, if you have any hope of peace in this area, if you have any hope of it getting beyond the The situation in which we're in right now, you've got to have people who are willing, and there's been many in Israel over time,
and they've gotten burned time after time, of trying to, you know, find a peace solution, find an appeasement, find a work, and yet the Palestinians, represented by the very radical jihadist kind of elements of their party, Of their grouping allow them to continually get pushed back.
And look, if you see everything that is happening in Israel right now, you see the leadership, you see the others, this is a...
I don't think this is going to end well for Hamas.
And frankly, it's not ending well for the world.
But again, as Netanyahu said yesterday, this was not a war we chose.
It was a war that was forced upon us.
And we didn't want to have war, but we will end it.
And I think this is going to be the interesting part for us as we go forward, as we discuss this in a little bit.
So how these Harvard elites, I would love to see them explain that that's okay.
They won't do that, though.
They'll just send out their little 31-signature letter saying this is terrible, this is awful, this is, you know, the Palestinians should be free and it's Israel's fault.
How can you make that argument?
I mean, again, Palestinians have never came to a time in which they simply just said, let's have peace.
We believe you can stay.
Israel has opened up at times to allow these discussions.
It's not going to happen overnight.
It's not going to be easy to do.
But these are the very things that can happen if you have people who are willing to try over time To heal the very painful wounds.
And the first and foremost is, is that the Palestinians recognizing the fact that Israel has a right to exist.
And until you get past that point, frankly, some of this discussion is irrelevant going forward.
The United States is still one of the interesting, I'll switch gears here.
We found out over this past week that the Biden silence Especially public-facing silence over what was happening in Israel had to do with the fact that he was getting questioned by the special investigator.
Now, if it was Donald Trump having to answer questions by the special counsel who was investigating the documents that were found in Biden's house, if it was Donald Trump or anybody else, the mainstream media would be all over this.
You had to search to find this.
Even after it was confirmed by the White House.
I've not seen this on any of the CBS, NBC, ABC, MSNBC, any of these CNN. They're not reporting this.
I mean, it's sort of been hidden that this is happening.
But again, if you're listening to this with half of an open mind, you will understand that this is not something that is normal for reporting for these reporters.
They would be all over this if this was Republican.
They'd be all over this if this was Donald Trump or one of his cabinet members or one of his family members.
I mean, this is just, again, amazing.
But it does give reason to why Joe Biden's been silent.
They've been having to prep him And keep him out while the investigator is there asking questions for over two days.
Hopefully this will say that this investigation is ongoing.
I mean, you can't honestly have an investigation into Donald Trump for these documents and then actually have them, you know, confound from time in Joe Biden's life when he was actually a senator.
He should have never had those, period.
And yet had them.
So as we look forward, this is, you know, just really where the press is at this point.
I want to turn to a political issue now and a political issue in our presidential race.
Let's do a little bit of history lesson here.
History lesson in 2016, Bernie Sanders ran a very well-run, very popular campaign among the far left and many in the Democratic Party who enjoyed his message of free everything.
And he was gaining a lot of momentum.
The Democratic Party was panicking over this because they believed that This was Hillary Clinton's time.
They had already anointed Hillary Clinton to be the nominee in 2016 and then to go ahead and take on Donald Trump.
And in fact, I believe if you go back, this is the point of the just absolutely non-rational thought of most Democrats these days toward Donald Trump was the fact that he beat Hillary Clinton.
But if you move back in the primary process, Debbie Wasserman Schultz and others who were Hillary Clinton supporters, Did everything they possibly could in the Democratic Party to ensure that Hillary Clinton was going to win the nomination.
Although most people were not excited about Hillary, most Democrats were not excited, they were excited about Bernie Sanders.
Now, I would make the argument that that would be foolish for them to have Bernie Sanders on their ticket, but I'm not a Democrat.
That's for them to decide.
But even Democrats were concerned about this.
But the bigger issue was that Democrats decided that Bernie Sanders should not be the nominee.
They did everything they could.
I mean, going back to Tulsi Gabbard, who was running, and others, I mean, they could see that the game was rigged for Hillary Clinton.
Now, it backfired on them because, of course, Donald Trump beat Hillary Clinton.
She was a terrible candidate.
She didn't even know where seemingly half the primary states that were important were.
She never went to Wisconsin.
She didn't do the things that she spent because she just assumed she had it.
So, as we jump into the 2020 process, again, it was sort of a similar kind of situation.
With Joe Biden, but with all of the COVID, it wasn't as there.
But now it looks like, again, going into 2024, the Democratic Party has decided we have candidates running on our party that we don't like.
So we're going to keep them out of things.
We're not going to have debates.
We're not going to let others know that there's a difference out there for candidates to go at.
And we found this...
Uh, really yesterday in the, uh, not yet was the last week, the announcement by, uh, John, uh, JFK Jr. That he is, uh, Robert Kennedy Jr. I apologize.
Robert Kennedy Jr. Is that he is now dropping out of the race and he is from a democratic perspective, but he's going to run as a, uh, Independent.
Now, this could get interesting because if you have him running as an independent, the real question becomes is when and who does he actually make the difference and who does he actually take votes from?
If we're dealing with this in a logical sense of who he's taking votes from, as long as he was on the Democratic ticket, he was taking votes from Joe Biden.
But there were many people who were seeing it, and we were seeing it in the polling, that said that he was taking votes from both.
Now, as an independent, here's something that I would like to see.
Independents in many states have a hard time getting on the ballot.
This is not the issue that most would want to have if they were trying to run for...
I'm president because you have to have ballot access to get the electoral votes.
You have to get on these ballots.
What was interesting, though, is will Robert Kennedy Jr., will he actually stay as an independent or will he actually look to be affiliated with some...
That already have ballot access, such as the Green Party, which Cornel West actually decided not to be in...
The Green Party nominee.
So that has left an opening for the Green Party to have somebody.
And if they had a Robert Kennedy Jr. that could run on the Green Party ticket, that would be an interesting block to look at.
Let me explain why this is important.
And it's also why Donald Trump and the Republicans have to watch this as well.
Robert Kennedy Jr. has made an impact.
He's made an impact with conservatives who are frustrated with things like the COVID vaccine, the mandates, and all that went along with it.
Now, if they dig deeper into his background, they're going to find a very pro-choice, very liberal candidate on many ideas that they would not normally tolerate.
On the Democratic side, he presents an alternative to Joe Biden.
His liberalness is enough for many on that side to say, we don't want Joe Biden.
We don't think he's the candidate.
We don't like anybody else.
So we're going to deal with, we're going to vote for Robert Kennedy Jr. He's been pulling 15 to 20% in most all the polls.
So what does this mean if he goes independent or he then maybe affiliates with the Green Party, which has access to over half of the states for electoral.
It means that now both parties back to 1992 timeframe have to deal with an independent who takes votes basically from both.
We saw this, you know, the Biden folks have been worried about Kennedy for a long time.
Trump folks and conservatives have been actually promoting Kennedy in many circles.
In fact, he's actually speaking at an upcoming conference with CPAC. Which is going to have to be interesting for the Republican nominees because if he continues to get publicized, gets the promotion, ends up on the ballot in many of these states, he will also pull from the Republican candidate which means you could have a very scrambled Look at the Electoral College, a very scrambled look at the popular vote in many of these states.
So it's an interesting dynamic with Cornel West coming out of the Green Party candidate side with him now saying after the Democrats basically forced him to become an independent because they wouldn't acknowledge his candidacy.
And by the way, also on another note, it is almost abhorrent, it is abhorrent that the Biden administration will not provide Secret Service protection for Kennedy.
I mean, he has a history that most in this country do not have.
He has already had somebody come to one of his events in which they were carrying weapons and wanting to see him.
They were fake being a police officer.
Kennedy is deserving of this protection for none other than his family history and many in this country, how they view the Kennedys.
For Joe Biden not to afford him that Secret Service protection is just wrong.
Just plain and simple wrong.
Going forward.
But we'll keep an eye on this because, you know, the question will be is how much does he pull from the Democratic ticket?
How much does he pull from the Republican ticket?
Only, you know, the time will tell on that.
Polling says that he will pull significant amounts from him.
If he could pull, if he pulls 15 to 20 percent in a general election, he pulls 10 to 15 percent or 10 or if it's 20, pulls 10 percent from both, then, you know, you've got a real fight to get into some of these states where you could be swung by as few as a few thousand votes to see who would actually get the electoral college votes from a Wisconsin, a Pennsylvania, an Arizona, a Nevada, a Michigan.
These could all come into play.
North Carolina You know, even Georgia to an extent or some others, if you have what is viewed as a very credible third party candidate going forward.
So as we look at this, this is You know, the difference in what we're seeing right now.
I want to go back, before we finish up the podcast today, and again, this week, I'm trying to give you some just information that you can use, look at, that you may be missing in time frame.
It is interesting.
We got to visit our old friend Governor Gavin Newsom out in California.
If you've watched here recently, he's been vetoing some legislation that is Would put him away from the more liberal side.
I mean, he's got all the liberal credentials he needs.
As we just talked about Robert Kennedy Jr. in this race, I think we've got to acknowledge that Gavin Newsom is still waiting on the sidelines to see what Joe Biden, if he actually makes it through the campaign cycle.
But he is trying to position himself a little more to the center.
But, I mean, that's like coming from far left field and barely making it halfway to center field and changing his position.
But it has been interesting to watch the play go out there.
In other developing news in the election cycle coming up, Carrie Lake has now filed paperwork to run for Senate and the state of Arizona.
That sets up a very intriguing dynamic between her, Kristen Sinema, and Ruben Gallego, who is running on the Democratic Party tickets.
You have an independent and a Republican there, if they, you know, all three come out of their, you know, Kristen would not, Kirsten Sinema would not have to come out of a primary.
But the Democratic primary and the Republican primary sets up Arizona to be a very volatile state come this time next year.
Because this time next year, we're about a month off from the general election.
So that's a state that is coming into play.
Now we have McCormick up in Pennsylvania, who seems to be drawing every Republican back around it.
A good old friend of mine, John Fredericks, is now endorsing McCormick after he was very much against him in the last election.
So you're seeing a pulling together of the Republican Party in Pennsylvania behind McCormick.
That is a good sign going into KC fight because that KC fight is going to be very, very difficult in Pennsylvania going forward.
Also, you have the election down in Louisiana.
Jeff Landry and some others who are down there.
Attorney General, who looks to be the odds-on favorite to become the next governor of Louisiana.
These are all off-year elections, especially these that I'm mentioning now, are off-year elections that we don't normally have.
Virginia, Governor Glenn Youngkin, is in his midterm battle to fight for the legislature and gain a bigger majority of Republicans in the state legislature.
If they can do that, they can set the table for how we run campaigns in other parts of the country.
So a lot going on right now.
I'm going to give a podcast here in the upcoming week before the election to sort of lay the land for like in Louisiana, Virginia, Kentucky has a big governor's race, which frankly has surprised me.
Brashear and Cameron It's still double-digit lead.
And that one has surprised me a little bit in Kentucky that Daniel Cameron has not pulled and closed that lead up like I thought he would.
I'm pulling for him.
I hope he wins.
But right now, he is down and doesn't seem to be making up the gap.
So a lot of these races going on.
Again, with the news of the war in Israel, we still have Ukraine, which, believe me, has not fallen off the map.
We still have the speakers dynamic in the House and how that's going to come about.
You know, we just need to follow up and see what all is going on here because it's just not a good time right now.
In our country, in our world, pray for our world, pray for the peace of Jerusalem, pray for peace in this world, and that Iran and these other antagonistic terrorists who have been doing this can be called to account as we go forward.
So with that, I'll leave you on this edition of the Doug Collins Podcast.
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