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Belief and Protection
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| But Oran, I'm glad you're here. | ||
| Everyone, I imagine in the Temcast audience is quite familiar with who you are, but maybe before we launch in, you could give a quick intro for people that maybe aren't. | ||
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Sure. | |
| I'm the host of the Oren McIntyre show. | ||
| I'm on Blaze TV, YouTube, Rumble, all the places you expect. | ||
| Podcast is on Apple, Spotify, all those places. | ||
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I also write books. | |
| I wrote The Total State, write a regular column for Blaze News. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| Well, before we get in, I was playing obviously all the footage, some of the reaction from across the right, and then obviously the DOJ's intention to prosecute everyone that was involved in this raid in St. Paul at this beautiful, beautiful church in St. Paul. | ||
| I wanted to get your reaction to the raid and then maybe sort of articulate what you would like as a response to be. | ||
| I think we're probably on the same page here, but maybe you can outline that a little more. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Obviously, this is an incredibly important line that the left has crossed. | ||
| We've seen intimidation before from the left, but this is a direct and obvious violation of several laws, including the FACE Act. | ||
| Now, it seems that Harvey Dillon has announced their intention to actually prosecute Don Lemon under a Ku Klux Klan Act, which is fantastic. | ||
| It's hilarious to announce that on Martin Luther King Jr. Day of all days. | ||
| So top-notch work, very, very fine work. | ||
| Of course, the worry was as this was unfolding that the Trump administration would turn away from charging people, especially Don Lemon. | ||
| Obviously, the left is going to go ballistic. | ||
| They're going to say, oh, it's a journalist. | ||
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He's a journalist. | |
| He's got a First Amendment right to whatever. | ||
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It's all a lie. | |
| You have no First Amendment right to enter a building and disrupt a religious service. | ||
| In fact, there are several laws prohibiting exactly that. | ||
| It's not just that Don Lemon did this. | ||
| It's not just that he organized this. | ||
| It's that he went ahead and streamed live every aspect of what he was doing. | ||
| He was streaming live the commission of a federal crime. | ||
| This cannot go unpunished. | ||
| It's not just that Don Lemon needs to go to jail. | ||
| He needs to go to jail four years. | ||
| He needs to do real jail time. | ||
| No, no house arrest, no pleading out. | ||
| This guy needs to be riding in prison. | ||
| This is a unprecedented violation in the left's escalation, and it must pay deeply. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I've been sort of articulating this point as the situation in Minneapolis has been unfolding. | ||
| And the point I'm making, and you'll probably be in agreement, is it's imperative that the Trump administration sends a message now with this situation because, again, this is A, setting the tone for three years, and it could be a massive victory again for the base, these sorts of things. | ||
| But B, this is the leftists kind of sizing up the Trump administration right now. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| They want to see what exactly they're able to get away with because obviously in Trump one and obviously about the Biden administration, they were able to operate with a degree of impunity. | ||
| I mean, maybe you'd see some arrests and they would get released a few days later. | ||
| Certainly didn't see any high-profile arrests, even though we're still waiting on some high-profile arrests in Trump too. | ||
| But like you said, this is a different level here because when you're seeing these people interact with ICE agents, you know, brawling with ICE agents or police or any other three-letter agency, as Americans, we're kind of like, okay, well, that's clearly the left sort of combating with the government. | ||
| It's a degree removed from us to some aspect. | ||
| It's when you see it in a church, especially people on the right, obviously, you know, lots of devout Christians. | ||
| I mean, I myself grew up a Southern Baptist. | ||
| So when I see that, I'm like, that could have been my congregation. | ||
| When I see the way those people speak and the way that they respond to Don Lemon with a very gracious, loving kind of attitude, it just takes me back to church growing up. | ||
| Like these are my people. | ||
| And so this is why it feels like a next level infraction. | ||
| Yeah, this is very similar, I think, to the death of Charlie Kirk. | ||
| It has similar in that it goes beyond, as you say, when someone shoots at Donald Trump, it's evil. | ||
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It's horrible. | |
| The Trump administration should have done more to go after the left at the time. | ||
| But there's a certain level of, okay, you become president of the United States, you get into national politics. | ||
| There's a certain level of risk assumed, right? | ||
| We know that presidents have been assassinated. | ||
| It's terrible when it happens, but it doesn't shatter our perception of reality. | ||
| When Charlie Kirk gets shot, this could be your brother. | ||
| This could be your son. | ||
| This could be your husband. | ||
| This is a normal guy. | ||
| Yes, he's powerful. | ||
| He's involved in politics, but he doesn't hold state power. | ||
| He's not radical. | ||
| This could be you. | ||
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right? | |
| And the same thing here with the church. | ||
| It's another scenario, as you said, where when leftists are brawling with ICE, everyone can Monday morning quarterback, whether this ICE agent thought he was going to get run over. | ||
| They're wrong. | ||
| This was an attempted murder and the woman absolutely deserved to be shot and her girlfriend should be in jail for encouraging that assault. | ||
| However, we do understand that ICE agents are taking on a certain level of risk when they involve themselves in that job. | ||
| Once it breaks into places of worship, we're now talking about leftists hunting down and intimidating innocent people. | ||
| And to be really clear, if they could have shot those people, they would have. | ||
| Like don't fool yourself for a minute. | ||
| These people are Bolsheviks. | ||
| They would have lined those people up against the wall if they had the option. | ||
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And they will. | |
| Like they will get there. | ||
| We have to put the foot down now. | ||
| And this means that obviously we need to see right action from the government. | ||
| I'm glad to hear them taking strong stances. | ||
| But this also means that churches need to prepare. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Those people should have been physically removed from the building. | ||
| And if they attempted violence, they should have been met with lethal force. | ||
| That is where you need to be. | ||
| There's nothing unchristian about defending your church and you need to be ready. | ||
| We've already seen terrorist attacks on churches. | ||
| We've already seen that guy drive into the church and shoot at people. | ||
| The Mormon church. | ||
| Now we see this attack. | ||
| It's going to continue. | ||
| These people are French revolution. | ||
| They are communists. | ||
| They are going to accelerate. | ||
| Leftists are radical. | ||
| They hate religion. | ||
| They hate God. | ||
| They want to persecute Christians. | ||
| That is what they want to do. | ||
| And if they do not take, if we do not take both government action and personal action to protect our places of worship, the left will continue. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, Nathan Halberstadt, a friend of the show, he actually made a really great point. | ||
| This is the most obvious sort of crux of really what the left is all about here with their sort of Reign of Terror 2.0 is this attack represented the two things that they're seeking to undermine specifically, which is the Christian faith. | ||
| Again, that's the historic faith of the United States. | ||
| Again, the Southern Baptist Church is pretty much as American as you can possibly get. | ||
| It is like this unique synthesis of Christianity that, again, like reflects middle America in the most like obvious way possible. | ||
| So you really have this attack on Heritage Americans in many regards through the church. | ||
| But then also, what is this all about? | ||
| Well, they're protesting ICE. | ||
| Well, what does ICE do? | ||
| Well, okay, they, again, enforce immigration law. | ||
| So it really is this obvious crux of the two things the left really wants to undermine the most, which is, again, the historic Christian faith of the American people and then the historic composition of the United States through immigration, these sorts of things. | ||
| I mean, again, to your point, I mean, these churches need to kind of understand what time it is. | ||
| I mean, I can understand why up until now, so to speak, a lot of these churches are sitting back and saying, okay, well, it's so random that, you know, maybe we don't have to worry about it. | ||
| But I'd go back to like even like the Sutherland Spring shooting a few years ago in Texas. | ||
| I think at that moment, a lot of these churches really needed to have conversations about security. | ||
| Like, hey, I don't know if it's TSA level, but we certainly need to have plan of action here. | ||
| These conversations need to be happening. | ||
| Yeah, I think we all saw the picture from the video of that young girl crying in the arms of her parents, scared of these people breaking into her church. | ||
| And that simply cannot be allowed to stand in the United States of America. | ||
| I will not allow, this cannot happen. | ||
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Okay. | |
| My church personally not only has a security team. | ||
| They have off-duty cops and military constantly watching entrances and exits to make sure that everyone is safe. | ||
| Church members are directly involved in the armed security of the church, along with a large percentage of the males in the congregation being armed. | ||
| You, American Christian, I'm talking to you right now. | ||
| It is your duty as a man to get a firearm, train with that firearm and be armed in your house of worship, prepared to repel violent leftists. | ||
| Period. | ||
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That's it. | |
| We cannot allow this. | ||
| It will not stand. | ||
| I'm glad the government is taking action. | ||
| We should allow them to resolve the issue through color of law first, but it is also your personal responsibility to be prepared not just to protect yourself, but your house of worship. | ||
| The people in your congregation are counting on you. | ||
| No more, oh, I don't know what I can do. | ||
| I don't know how I can be part of a solution. | ||
| You can be part of the solution. | ||
| Get a firearm, train, and be prepared to protect your church. | ||
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Yeah, exactly. | |
| I mean, because the government, again, the DOJ, even if the DOJ is a slam dunk here, they knocked us out of the park. | ||
| The incidents still happen. | ||
| This is still after the fact mobbing up the mess. | ||
| Christians across the United States need to be ready because this is going to continue. | ||
| Again, when the left, what do they hate most? | ||
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We saw it. | |
| It was, I don't know if you saw the clip on the, on the, I know it was in Britain, but that's sort of the same vibe going on. | ||
| The BBC in Britain, they had, I don't know, some sort of musician on, and he credited Christ as like his largest inspiration. | ||
| And the interviewer literally hissed at him. | ||
| Like these people, again, I don't want to go like full Tucker and like, you know, everything, but oh, I will. | ||
| That's demon possession. | ||
| There's a huge demon possession. | ||
| Yeah, there's a massive demonic force moving over the West broadly, but specifically in the United States. | ||
| And so you just see that. | ||
| And it's like Christians watching this, you know, Southern Baptist, Presbyterian, Catholic, whatever you are, Mormon. | ||
| I don't know if they're on the team, but, you know, Mormons, not to start a theological dispute, but if you're watching, like, you need to be ready. | ||
| You need to believe these people when they tell you these things. | ||
| Again, we saw a Kyle Reddit house. | ||
| That's what they're calling, that chunky man with the firearm that was walking around St. Paul. | ||
| He's like, I am here to defend my community. | ||
| These are my people. | ||
| He's talking about like Somali fraudsters. | ||
| He has a strong friend-enemy distinction. | ||
| And you as a Christian, you as an American is not a friend, certainly not in the friend distinction. | ||
| You're on the enemy side. | ||
| And he's patrolling it again, presumably to repel ICE agents. | ||
| So it's like, it just all comes back to from Charlie to this, everything in between. | ||
| You have to believe these people when they say these things. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| And to be clear, like, we all have our doctrinal differences. | ||
| I might have more with the Mormons than other denominations, but ultimately they're close enough to the team to get shot. | ||
| They're close enough to the team to get threatened. | ||
| So they're on the team. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And that's all there is to it. | ||
| These people hate family. | ||
| They hate people who would bow before Christ, even if we disagree with some manner in which they do it. | ||
| And ultimately, it is our job to come together and protect these people. | ||
| 100% solidarity with Christians in the United States today of all stripes. | ||
| We are standing together. | ||
| This is not going to happen. | ||
| This is the line, guys. | ||
| If you will not stop them at the churches, you won't stop them at your doorstep. | ||
| That's all there is to it. | ||
| And I heard my entire life about this is what the Second Amendment is for. | ||
| If the government's not going to stand and protect our churches, then we will do it. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| During COVID, that argument went out the window and nothing happened. | ||
| The government shut down plenty of churches. | ||
| Nobody did anything. | ||
| That argument's on its last legs. | ||
| If the First Amendment means anything, it has to mean something here. | ||
| Again, first and foremost, the government needs to take action. | ||
| I am glad to hear strong rhetoric on this, but we have to see conversion into real, meaningful penalties, not slaps on the wrist, not house arrest, not a fine, hard jail time. | ||
| Every single one of these people, hard jail time. | ||
| If that doesn't happen, then you're leaving it in the hands of the parishioners. | ||
| And it's, I'm sorry, it is just at that point. | ||
| Defend yourself. | ||
| The government is useless. | ||
| I'm not saying the government is useless. | ||
| I'm saying the Trump administration is doing the right thing. | ||
| I am praising them for doing the right thing. | ||
| I want to be very clear. | ||
| However, follow through must come because the consequences of not following through are massive. | ||
| Everybody doesn't like the idea. | ||
| The Protestant Franco sounds scary until the first Bolshevik breaks through the door of your church. | ||
| And then all of a sudden, it doesn't sound so scary anymore. | ||
| So let's get this done under color of law while we still can. | ||
| Because the other options are big. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This is literally the last off-ramp. | ||
| Decisive action from the Trump administration here is the off-ramp. | ||
| Again, I don't want to see a situation in which parishioners are forced to engage in gunfights with these leftists. | ||
| That sounds like a dystopia. | ||
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I don't want that. | |
| I want the Trump administration to come down hard here. | ||
| And I mean, to your point, I mean, like, you know, like Mormons, like, it's like, okay, we could have these conversations about Mormonism, but it's like, I'm closer to a Mormon than I am to whatever Don Lemon's Christianity is. | ||
| He was literally in the church debating the pastor and he's like, I'm a Christian too. | ||
| And I'm like, I look him up. | ||
| He's like a Baptist or something. | ||
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I'm a Baptist. | |
| I'm way closer to a Mormon than I am to you. | ||
| I don't know what sort of weird, weird depiction of Christianity you're making, but it's insulting. | ||
| It's offensive. | ||
| No, Don Lemon, you're nowhere close to what we're talking about here. | ||
| But it's starting to get to the point where it seems like the left is actually kind of giving up themselves. | ||
| Maybe not giving up, but they're just being forthright with the fact that, no, you know, when people on the right, like I put a tweet out before the show where I'm like, I just don't really know how we can live in the same country with these people anymore. | ||
| I'm not saying that as a statement. | ||
| I'm saying that as a reaction because I think that is the presupposition that they have already made. | ||
| They've already determined that they can't live in a country with us. | ||
| And so all I'm doing is just making a reaction. | ||
| I'm just acknowledging that that is the reality that they are correctly identifying, in my opinion. | ||
| And it's so important that this is recognized by every religious denomination, every Christian denomination. | ||
| We saw, you know, Baron, I'm sorry, I forgot his name. | ||
| Bishop Barron talking about how the, you know, maybe the Trump administration should dial back the deportations and all these things. | ||
| We've seen the Southern Baptist coalition get weak in the knees over this stuff. | ||
| This is a call to all of these people. | ||
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Okay. | |
| The church bureaucracy, the church, you know, hierarchy cannot, cannot step away from the responsibility here. | ||
| There are no half measures. | ||
| And the fact that they were issuing statements like that just before this happened shows you how dangerous weak leaders are. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I've liked stuff from guys like Bishop Barron, but there is no excuse, zero excuse for siding with the Bolsheviks, giving them comfort, or in any way, any way, standing against the enforcement of the law in the face of their terror. | ||
| It is unacceptable from any church leader. | ||
| If your pastor is in any way in the pulpit excusing this this weekend, you need to speak out. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You need to tell your church, this is not okay. | ||
| We need to stand strong against this. | ||
| And I don't want to see anyone from the Southern Baptists to the Catholics saying anything different. | ||
| This is a gross violation of the First Amendment, a direct attack on our freedom as Americans, a persecution of Christians, and it will not stand. | ||
| So I hope that this speaks directly to church leadership. | ||
| There cannot be any weakness in this area. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, if you're a church leader, whether you're, again, Southern Baptist, Catholic, Lutheran, and you're sitting back and you're scratching your head, like, how have we lost so much ground over the last few decades? | ||
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Why Christianity Is Seen as a Roadblock
00:02:24
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| You know, why are so many people not finding value? | ||
| I mean, I know these things are reversing to some degree with Joomers, but by and large, Americans, again, have sort of abandoned Christianity a lot of regards and they're sitting around scratching their heads like, why could this happen? | ||
| It's like, because of that, of this weakness, of this just meekness and this, again, just constantly trying to capitulate grounds to the left, hoping that maybe if you just give them enough, then they'll be able to leave us alone. | ||
| That's not going to happen. | ||
| Central to their belief, they see Christianity as a roadblock. | ||
| They see it as an imposing force and they correctly have identified it as, again, the thing holding them back from total liberation, you know, these sorts of things. | ||
| Because again, they're just an anti-Western, anti-human force. | ||
| And so it's like as Christians, again, to maybe borrow you facilitate with a stand on business. | ||
| Really, that's the situation here. | ||
| You know what's true. | ||
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We're right. | |
| We're correct. | ||
| You need to be confident in that and stand firm. | ||
| Again, we have our guys in power. | ||
| We can put pressure on them. | ||
| We can, again, get them moving in the right direction. | ||
| But also, this starts in the churches. | ||
| We need strong churches. | ||
| We need to be a beacon for our community because, again, people are struggling right now. | ||
| People feel like they're getting blown around in the wind. | ||
| People feel unstable. | ||
| They feel like they don't have their hand on the wheel. | ||
| You know what you can do to provide some people some security is reflect Christ's values in your church, which is strength, which is order. | ||
| And again, which is standing on truth. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| The job of the civil magistrate inside the Christian religion is to protect the right of the faithful to serve and worship God. | ||
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Period. | |
| That's it. | ||
| If you have one job as a civil magistrate in a Christian nation, that is your job. | ||
| And we are simply seeing a lack of that. | ||
| We're seeing it at the state level. | ||
| Obviously, a lot of people have asked, well, why wasn't Don Lemon and why weren't these people arrested immediately? | ||
| They're obviously on video. | ||
| They're obviously committing crimes. | ||
| The answer is very simple. | ||
| The state of Minnesota is not going after them. | ||
| The municipalities who are in charge of the police in that area are not going after them. | ||
| They have first crack at this. | ||
| The federal government can file its charges, but it has to go get arrest warrants from judges and everything else. | ||
| It has to act slower because per federalism, per the Constitution, this is a state and local matter unless it has to become a federal matter. | ||
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Federal Control Needed
00:04:33
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| And so the immediate response should have come from the state, should have come from local governments. | ||
| But they are quite literally insurrectionists right now. | ||
| They are ignoring their duty to care for and protect the people of their state, which is why we need reconstruction in Minneapolis, why we need it in Minnesota. | ||
| We need the federal government to take charge. | ||
| It's time to sign a consent degree. | ||
| It's time for the federal government to take control of law enforcement in that state. | ||
| But until then, Army Dylan, obviously, and Pam Bondi should be working to put every one of these people in jail for as long as humanly possible. | ||
| Again, I cannot stress enough how important it is these people do not get slaps on the wrist. | ||
| Full federal prison sentences, years in jail, no fines, no house arrests, no sweetheart deal, because Don Lemon was on CNN one time in jail. | ||
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Period. | |
| True. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, because, you know, a lot of people in the space have been calling for arrests of these more high-profile figures that, again, are instigating these incidents, that are cheering it on, that in this case are directly like abetting the, again, this raid into this church. | ||
| And a lot of people are saying, well, look at all these arrests they're making, you know, at the lower level. | ||
| Look, they are putting away a lot of these guys. | ||
| And it's like, okay, that's great. | ||
| But to the left, they need to see their titans held accountable. | ||
| That's the problem is because they're not listening to Joe Schmo, who gets wrapped up in some operation in Minneapolis. | ||
| They're looking at these Don Lemons. | ||
| They're looking at these sorts of people, again, as the leaders, the figureheads of what they're trying to do. | ||
| And it's like, until you hold those people accountable at the high levels, again, at their top level, their top brass, it's going to be really difficult to communicate to these people that this is not acceptable. | ||
| Again, and that's, you know, Trump too, this is a different, different ballgame, new sheriff in town. | ||
| It's not going to fly. | ||
| And yeah, until we get those high-profile arrests, I don't know how you can really communicate to these people. | ||
| Because again, like I said, they're not really too concerned if Joe Schmo gets wrapped up. | ||
| They can, you know, they can compartmentalize that. | ||
| But when Don Lemon gets marched out in handcuffs in front of a courthouse, that's how you send a message. | ||
| That's how you communicate to these people enough. | ||
| Your reign of terror is coming to a close. | ||
| Yeah, Steve Bannon went to jail and nobody cared that he had one of the biggest shows on the right. | ||
| He goes to jail, right? | ||
| People forget that the Obama administration sent Dinesh D'Souza to jail. | ||
| Like they don't care. | ||
| They will put our people in jail, even the media figures, the reporters, people with high profiles. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| We can't care back. | ||
| There can't be this double standard where leftist high-profile figures have some immunity towards their political actions, but the right can get thrown in jail on every single tiny little bit of this. | ||
| We all saw as the left went after Douglas Mackey and sentenced him to prison for making a meme. | ||
| You cannot let Douglas Mackey get sentenced to prison for making a meme and then let Don Lemon go free after leading a federal raid against a church committing federal crimes. | ||
| This simply cannot be allowed to stand. | ||
| Like I said, I'm glad to hear that the Trump administration is planning to do this. | ||
| I understand it takes a few days given the necessities of the system. | ||
| I just want, I think everyone rightly is a little concerned. | ||
| I think we've all seen the administration drop the ball on these things, not get it done, not get across the goal line. | ||
| We've had promises made about going after NGOs, Antifa, all this stuff. | ||
| You know, high-profile people, none of it has ultimately come to fruition. | ||
| So I hear people saying, well, this one isn't going to happen either. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I want to be proven wrong. | ||
| I am cheering desperately, pleading, Pam Bondi, Army Dylan, prove everybody wrong. | ||
| Put these people in jail. | ||
| Because if you don't, like we said, the whole, the can of everything just gets completely unleashed. | ||
| Because again, if we, if we can't stop them at the doors of our church, we won't stop them at the doors of our home. | ||
| That's all there is to it. | ||
| So I am, again, encouraged to see the Trump administration talking tough and taking action, but the conversion here must be complete. | ||
| Nothing, nothing can keep them from continuing this act, continuing this prosecution, because the consequences of dropping the ball this time, it can be the last time. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Minneapolis will continue in perpetuity. | ||
| What we're seeing now, again, they have the bodies, okay? | ||
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Critical Mass Movement
00:04:24
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| They have the numbers. | ||
| There's no question about that. | ||
| Like the idea that this is sort of some fringe element of the United States is not true. | ||
| We saw after Charlie Kirk how many people were just posting on Facebook like Jubilation with their full government name on there. | ||
| There's a lot of people out there. | ||
| Like you don't just mop this up by arresting a few radicals. | ||
| It's like this is an element in our country that is a massive, massive proportion of the country. | ||
| And again, like these high profile arrests, this isn't like the first term or maybe you could perceive them as maybe like red meat for the base, which I do think they're actually, it would have been consequential in the long term if we made these arrests. | ||
| But, you know, I could see like, okay, arresting Hillary Clinton. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Maybe that's more like red meat for the base. | ||
| This go around. | ||
| These arrests are not red meat for the base. | ||
| This is literally trying to save the republic. | ||
| Like that's what's going on here. | ||
| Because I mean, to your point, again, this is just going to continue. | ||
| You're going to get Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle. | ||
| These cities are going to be like this in perpetuity. | ||
| And then who knows? | ||
| It could spread. | ||
| I mean, you know, these red state governors are doing a better job, obviously, of sort of utilizing local law enforcement, but it's not a guarantee that that holds for long. | ||
| I mean, these police departments only have so many resources. | ||
| At a certain point, it just gets out of hand. | ||
| And then we end up with South Africa or Brazil or something along those lines. | ||
| And that's a reality that could literally occur in this decade. | ||
| The numbers are there. | ||
| The stage is set. | ||
| The country is doused in gasoline right now. | ||
| It really doesn't take much to push us into that territory. | ||
| I don't fear a civil war per se. | ||
| I mean, I know on Timcast, it's kind of our thing, a civil war. | ||
| I fear like South Africa. | ||
| South Africa doesn't have a civil war. | ||
| It just gets worse and worse and worse. | ||
| And criminals are allowed. | ||
| They're granted more room, more space. | ||
| Leftist groups and agitators and these different NGOs are just given more and more space to operate. | ||
| That's almost far worse than a civil war because at least civil war, there's an end in sight. | ||
| South Africa is just going to be like this until the country collapses, which is probably not going to happen anytime soon. | ||
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Wait, it hasn't happened yet. | |
| I mean, there's a lot of ruin in a country, right? | ||
| And this is really the problem. | ||
| I am not an accelerationist in the sense of things need to get worse so we can get better. | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| I think you win by winning. | ||
| However, there is a truth to what you're saying and what many accelerationists point to, which is that if the frog is boiled slowly enough, people never hit that hard point where they feel like they have to take action. | ||
| And so if things just get worse, but they manage to get worse in increments that are comfortable enough to adjust to, people never feel that hard stop that says, we must take serious action. | ||
| I don't want my country to fall in disrepair. | ||
| I don't want to see a civil war in my country. | ||
| That's why I'm begging for action now. | ||
| That's why I'm looking for what some people might call extreme action now, because only through extreme action under the color of law do you avoid either constant slow degradation or the much more severe action without the law, right? | ||
| And that's what we need to avoid. | ||
| I am very worried, as you say, that we won't get a civil war and that we will just get a slow breakdown of the country because everyone falls into complacency. | ||
| And that's why when I say here, this is the line, I don't mean because tomorrow there'll be civil war. | ||
| I mean because if you allow the Bolsheviks to go past this line without consequence, there will be no stopping them. | ||
| They just will continue to creep through everything. | ||
| And that's why I think it's critical for action to be taken. | ||
| I know people are worried about the political, the optics, all these things, but you know what gets the administration's approval rating up? | ||
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Action. | |
| Victory. | ||
| That's what people feel. | ||
| That's what they felt when Trump entered office, when the executive orders were flying, when victories were being secured, when his approval ratings were up. | ||
| It's because he was taking strong action. | ||
| The reason he's been mired down, the reason you're seeing the approval ratings fall is because people are starting to lose that energy. | ||
| Curtis Yarvin talked about Rubicon energy coming in to the Trump administration when it first happened and the lack of it. | ||
| This is an opportunity to regain that energy. | ||
| The left has made a critical mistake. | ||
| This is a real, serious, optical nightmare for them. | ||
| There is very little they can do except for their most extreme radical Bolshevik base to sell the idea that it's okay for them to storm churches. | ||
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Okay. | |
| That is the worst. | ||
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| When you see a small girl crying in the corner over her church being stormed, that is the worst possible optics. | ||
| Plus, they actually violated plenty of laws that we can charge them for. | ||
| This is the perfect situation to lay down the hammer under the color of law and show the left what needs to happen here. | ||
| It's also a good way to show the base you still care and you're going to take your focus off of Venezuela or Iran or whatever garbage Middle East piece of trash that I don't want to be talking about. | ||
| And you're actually going to care about the American people and Christians in the United States. | ||
| I don't want to hear about, oh, we got to stop anti-Semitism in the Middle East. | ||
| Oh, I got to worry about whether China's with Venezuela. | ||
| No, stop the Bolsheviks in my country who are invading my church. | ||
| I'm a Southern Baptist. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This could have been my church just as easily. | ||
| Actually, it couldn't have because there are armed guys in front of my church. | ||
| But I don't want to see a single person who shares my religious beliefs being put in this situation. | ||
| And so this has to change. | ||
| And like I said, action is what's going to drive victory for the Trump administration here. | ||
| And again, I'm glad to see them realizing that, talking the talk. | ||
| Let's see that walk as well. | ||
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Absolutely. | |
| I concur 100%, Oron. | ||
| Thank you so much for hopping on. | ||
| Where can people find you? | ||
| Again, I'm over on Blaze TV, YouTube, Rumble, of course, Twitter, and then on all the podcast apps. | ||
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Awesome. | |
| Well, thank you so much. | ||
| I really appreciate you coming on. | ||
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Thanks, man. | |
| Good to talk to you. | ||
| All righty. | ||
| Well, that was the great Oron McIntyre. | ||
| I mean, it's absolutely true. | ||
| I mean, again, you give these people an inch. | ||
| They'll take them out. | ||
| We're dealing with Bolsheviks here. | ||
| I mean, just thumb through a history book. | ||
| You'll see what these people are capable of. | ||
| So with that, we'll be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m. | ||
| Come give me a follow on X and Instagram at RealTate Brown. | ||
| Come hang out. | ||
| And we're going to go raid Devori Darkens. | ||
| That raid probably already went on. | ||
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So it's already gone. | |
| So most of you guys aren't even seeing this. | ||
| But for those who are, well done pressing the opt-out button because a lot of people don't see that, including myself. | ||
| I get raided all the time. | ||