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| Yeah, I think I think they're just so invested in mass immigration. | ||
| I mean, really, that is like this sort of the shelling. | ||
| Like, that's that's what they're if you could really reduce down the left, it's like they're all in on mass immigration, mass migration, and there's and ice is like the one obstacle, you know, other than say the say it's people like Steven Miller. | ||
| That's the one obstacle to that. | ||
| And I think that's just like their most important. | ||
| They've decided that that is what they're all in on. | ||
| Hey, everyone, Tate Brown here holding it down for Tim Poole. | ||
| I've got a great interview with the Captive Dreamer, prominent X slash Twitter poster, legendary poster. | ||
| He's here to discuss leftism, Hassan Piker, what's going on with all of that. | ||
| It's a great interview. | ||
| He really, we really get down in the weeds. | ||
| So uh make sure you watch till the end. | ||
| It's really fantastic stuff. | ||
| Look, a lot of people are gonna know who you are. | ||
| You're a prominent poster, but for the audience, people in the audience that maybe don't know who you are, maybe you could give a quick introduction to who you are, what you do. | ||
| Uh yeah, I guess I'm just kind of uh an internet a notorious internet troll. | ||
| Some of some may say an internet poster. | ||
| I guess I've always kind of posted, I've enjoyed posting, but the thing that got me on the map was um the sort of the Haiti Springfield stuff that got picked up by the Trump campaign, which uh I'm pretty proud of. | ||
| But that's kind of my my big uh claim to fame if you were my 15 minutes. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that was a beautiful, and that kind of really showed the power of posting. | ||
| I mean, I for people in the audience maybe don't remember, um, the Trump administration or sorry, the Trump campaign kind of going into the 2024 election, it did feel like the energy was down a little bit. | ||
| It's like we needed a little oomph. | ||
| And then out of nowhere, this story comes out out of Springfield, Ohio, where these Haitian migrants that have just been dumped in the city of Springfield were eating cats and dogs inexplicably inexplicably. | ||
| And uh it was in large part because the captive dreamer here was signing the spotlight on it. | ||
| And the next thing you know, the we're watching the debate, it comes up, and then we're eating the dogs or eating the cats. | ||
| So it was within within like three or four days, it had gone from just like a post on the internet to uh you know, right on the state presidential debate stage. | ||
| So it was pretty they're betting on it on poly markets, you know. | ||
| You could bet on whether Trump was gonna mention it. | ||
| So it was pretty cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I wanted to bring you in specifically to talk. | ||
| Um we're we saw yesterday really, really white pilling moment where Trump, he's obviously meeting with a lot of prominent conservatives on a kind of a round table discussion. | ||
| They're talking about leftist violence, um, Antifa, how we should deal with it. | ||
| And um, I I can't remember the journalist that brought up asking him about designating Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization. | ||
| And Trump kind of asks the room, he's like, What do you guys think? | ||
| Is this a good idea? | ||
| Obviously, Jack Pasobic, Patriot, he uh says, Yeah, it's great idea. | ||
| And Trump just kind of taps the room. | ||
| That's really really exciting because I think that really opens us up to treating Antifa like Al-Qaeda. | ||
| I know you have a lot of thoughts on how Antifa should be dealt with. | ||
| I mean, I was wondering what your reaction was to that yesterday. | ||
| Well, it's good because the the important thing is to go after the these like networks behind the scene, right? | ||
| I mean, you can't just go after the individual actors. | ||
| It's really about this, you know, the Soros funded networks that are that are bailing these people out that are getting them to go in and uh, you know, riot and protest. | ||
| And so this opens up a lot more tools to to go after. | ||
| Because uh, I don't know, I I posted about this recently, but you know, organizations like the Canadian government, they fund uh these sort of Antifa adjacent groups to do op-ed, like research hit pieces on people. | ||
| Uh they did it on me too. | ||
| But they're funded by the government, so this allows, you know, opens a lot more doors to countering that kind of influence, which is is notoriously difficult to uh to get to. | ||
| Yeah, and it's like something when you really see these people get unmasked, do you see a particular strain of human being that you don't really encounter in everyday, or maybe we do encounter in everyday life, but we don't see that side of them in everyday life. | ||
| I mean, something that was really exemplifying this was um this video that's been circulating over the last day or two of streamer Hassan Piker, obviously uh friend of the show. | ||
| Um this is alleged, so like I don't want to get like you know, I don't know, sued if you can get sued for this. | ||
| This is alleged, obviously, but it appears that his dog had a shock collar on and he like moved from the designated wholesome camera spot that like looks really good on camera. | ||
| And then he just zapped him, like like Palpatine or Mike Pence or something. | ||
| Like it was really wild. | ||
| I mean, does that just kind of exemplify what kind of people we're dealing with here or what? | ||
| I mean, I know you have some thoughts. | ||
| Well, it's what's funny too, is that dog sits there. | ||
| I mean, I've never watched this show, but someone did a time lapse and the dog sits there for like four hours straight, like in the one spot, and it was the one time it moved. | ||
| But uh a lot of these people weaponize this type of uh empathy or whatever, political empathy that they go into, like uh communism or socialism, whatever. | ||
| But really what it is is it's like uh a way for them to uh justify their sort of like resentment and their envy and hatred and turn it into something that makes it look less obviously negative. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like so instead of saying, Well, I hate the world and I want to destroy everything, you can kind of couch it or you can kind of uh hide that behind a mask of of being good person, you know, being a hecking good person, right? | ||
| That's what we always hear from these guys. | ||
| And you know, the same person saying be a good person is openly celebrating political assassinations and and making memes mocking Charlie Kirk, right? | ||
| So that's the same type of person, the same personality is is there behind the scenes. | ||
| And then the Piker is a great example. | ||
| Like he's like the example, uh you know, the best example of that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, totally. | ||
| I mean, because that's really where the pushback really has begun, is like John Doyle makes this point all the time, um, Patriot, where he talks about how there's this tendency on the right to want to just go back to like the 1990s, right? | ||
| The 1980s, 1990s. | ||
| But he makes this point of like, look, if you really want to exterminate leftism, you can't just ratchet it back to like an earlier form of liberalism and not expect like the outcome to be leftism, because that's just going to be the case every single time. | ||
| Um I think that's a great point. | ||
| And that's what I kind of see with what we're seeing now with I think this strain of thinking, this ideology has or has existed for well over 50, 60 years. | ||
| It's just now they're so emboldened, probably because they've accumulated so much institutional power that they feel like they're just allowed to say things like that. | ||
| And I think people are finally seeing like, oh, this has been there the whole time. | ||
| It's just now they're finally saying it out loud. | ||
| It's like this, it's like the stuff with like the great replacement theory that they say, well, it's not happening, but then when you kind of show that it is happening, well, they say, Well, it's actually good that it's happening. | ||
| And so, yeah, we have reached a period where there's been so little pushback for so long, and you know, every major social media platform has propped these people up, right? | ||
| I mean, Twitch has basically stuck by Hassan Piker, interviewing terrorists, doing all kinds of stuff. | ||
| Everyone, uh, you know, the left has been in control of of Twitter, of all these things for so long. | ||
| And uh now it's just they're realizing, okay, well, you know, are we the bad guys? | ||
| It's almost like they're having this moment where we've been saying this terrible stuff for so long and gotten away with it, and now there's this really big cultural pushback after, especially after the Charlie Kirk uh assassination that uh people are realizing, okay, these are actually just like really bad people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, totally. | ||
| Well, something that's been really interesting to me in in the aftermath of the Charlie Kirk assassination, uh is actually the reaction was almost more shocking to me, because I kind of expected leftists to react that way if I'm being honest. | ||
| I mean, I know a lot of people were shocked because they knew some of these people personally. | ||
| Um, so that's obviously, you know, I'm my heart goes out for those people because you think you know someone, that sort of thing. | ||
| But I was a little bit more surprised at the reaction for people on the right. | ||
| They seem to be so quick to let like the left off the hook for this. | ||
| Like we have this opportunity to really finally break this that's been tormenting us for decades. | ||
| And there was this tendency to immediately absolve the left. | ||
| And I don't know if it was intentional. | ||
| I don't know if they're saying I'm gonna sit here and I'm gonna make sure like the leftists don't get punished, but they immediately like looked for alternative explanations, like, you know, maybe Israel did this, or maybe it was an inside job, or you know, maybe Qatar did, you know, you're seeing all sorts of these explanations from people on the right, and that's what really surprised me. | ||
| I don't know if you're seeing the same stuff. | ||
| It's it's kind of an outgrowth of what happened during COVID, right? | ||
| And COVID was uh very good in terms of shattering the um trust in the expert class, right? | ||
| They kind of lost all of their credibility for for many reasons. | ||
| And what that did is that opened the door to uh sort of democrat democratizing uh explanations for things, which led to conspiracies and all these things. | ||
| And not, you know, not all conspiracies are wrong, but there's this tendency almost to want to go towards the most complicated possible, most convoluted explanation possible. | ||
| And whether or not they intentionally were trying to uh to to sort of take away the blame from the left, that's the outcome or the effect of trying to say, well, no, it wasn't Tyler Robinson, no, he didn't, you know, it wasn't his tr you know transgender roommate, all this stuff. | ||
| Whether that's the intent or not, that's the outcome and the that's the effect of it is to say, well, and and if you go into blue sky, actually, you'll find a lot of people on blue sky leftists who are who are saying the same same type of thing, right? | ||
| Like that's Israel or the Zionists, or it was you know, this corrupt FBI hit job, and because they know that they can get away with uh you know deflecting the blame. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, yeah, the Israel stuff seems exp especially kind of interesting to me because the the the attack vector that people on the right are using. | ||
| There's like a lot of fair criticisms of Israel. | ||
| I mean, I'm I'm in no means an Israel shill. | ||
| I'm I'm kind of like with Tim. | ||
| I just kind of am fairly ambivalent on the issue. | ||
| I actually kind of use Connor Tomlinson. | ||
| He has a great line on it, and it's I totally agree is I just really want what Israel has, but for Americans. | ||
| Like if we could just create an American version of Israel, I'd be okay with that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But some of the like attack vectors people on the right are using uh are like leftist arguments. | ||
| Like they're talking about international law, or they're like saying, well, that you know, they're like appealing to like human rights violations and these sorts of things. | ||
| And I'm like, okay, sure, but that's that's just not really that's not a vector of attack that's threatening to the liberal world order in any meaningful way. | ||
| Yeah, that's a that's an issue actually I talked about at length right after the October 7th attacks, and it gained me a lot of uh a lot of enemies on the internet right. | ||
| But I was basically trying to say, like, you know, you you can criticize Israel without adopting the frame of the left, right? | ||
| Without adopting this sort of language that's going to get you uh it's gonna get you allies in terms of like the third world or the Muslim world, but those are the same people who will then not give you uh like if you talk about crime or immigration, they're not going to be on board with you on that stuff at all. | ||
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| And so that's that's kind of what I was warning people. | ||
| It's like you can build a coalition with these people, but if you're an American patriot or European patriot, whatever, um, it's going to backfire spectacularly when it comes time to ask these people to give you uh, you know, some support on your issues of of again of the border of immigration of these things. | ||
| And and we've seen now that that's kind of exactly what's happened where uh they've been sort of cannibalized by the audience that they've cultivated. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I mean, you're seeing that even with Americans. | ||
| I mean, obviously, we we'll talk about it more in a little bit, like with the third world, but even with Americans, we had this really sort of delicate coalition uh going into the election of like the brocasters, I think is what the media is kind of termed, like you know, Joe Rogan, Theo Vaughn, Tim Dylan, and um they you know, they had their issues, Maha was really big for them, and you know, as it should, that's a really important issue. | ||
| I mean, I I obviously am very Maha. | ||
| Um, and they were kind of like maybe there a little bit on legal immigration, they maybe hadn't thought about it that much. | ||
| And then so as soon as these uh videos start coming out of um, you know, the more physical interactions ICE is having to have with the uh what the illegals are trying to deport and detain, they flake immediately and they freak out and they're like, this is surely there's another way to do this. | ||
| The the line I was here is do we really have to do the high school graduations? | ||
| And I'm sitting here like, yeah, we kind of do. | ||
| I mean, the what did you think mass deportations looked like? | ||
| Vibes, essays. | ||
| Well, what it's interesting is that you know, that's sort of televised in public and commented on, but what's not is uh, you know, I didn't I don't really remember Rogan and maybe I'm wrong, or or Theo Vaughn talking about sort of the mass swarming of the border under Biden, right? | ||
| The people like the lining up at the border, getting fed by these NGOs, getting brought in committing crime, you know. | ||
| It's very easy to sort of pinpoint one specific event of like a nice guy who's you know tackled somebody. | ||
| But uh, if you're if you're gonna do that, then I better have been seeing you for the past four years complaining about uh the the millions of people that flooded the southern border, which which I don't think they have. | ||
| And so it it seems a little a little sort of cowardly to me. | ||
| Um I understand, you know, sort of the reticence that some of these people have, and especially like someone like Theo Vaughn, he's like, man, it's like I don't want to get shot. | ||
| But that kind of shows you that there's this this leftist that he's afraid of the left, right? | ||
| There's this heckler's heckler's veto almost where he's he's willing to kind of make little sni jokes about, oh, Israel don't take me out, or the FBI don't take me out. | ||
| But he's really afraid of uh, you know, of some sort of crazed leftist assassin. | ||
| That's at the end of the day, that's what he's afraid of. | ||
| So until that gets kind of under control, it I think you're gonna see people still try and have one foot in both camps and say, well, you know, I supported this, but I don't want the excesses, um, which which aren't really excesses, they're framed in a way that's tried to make them look bad, right? | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| So that's a great point, actually. | ||
| That yeah, he makes these like, don't kill me, don't kill me. | ||
| But he would never say, like, hey, Antifa, don't kill me, because it's like they would actually see that as like an imitation. | ||
| An invitation or something, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, Tim, so Tim got caught a lot of flack for this position he took on the show um like a week or two ago, where he was kind of criticizing the ICE agents um propensity to mask. | ||
| They often mask to protect their identities. | ||
| But he made A point in this argument. | ||
| I think it was actually a really good point that a lot of people missed because they were very upset with this point with this take, rather. | ||
| Um, he said part of it is that it's so unacceptable that we're nine months into a Trump administration and we haven't sufficiently broken the left enough where Antifa officers still fear, like they should be able to operate with total impunity. | ||
| And you kind of alluded to it with Theo Vaughn, like where he's afraid to kind of make jokes in that certain specter. | ||
| Is it really does show how entrenched this leftist power is and how everyone knows that they're willing to go there, they're willing to use political violence if they don't like what you have to say. | ||
| Well, the mask thing too, like if you're familiar at all with like cartel country or stuff from Mexico, I mean, the federal police in Mexico will, you know, the the real heavy hitters will wear masks and and specifically it's for that reason, right? | ||
| Because they know the cartels are gonna take out their family or whatever. | ||
| So it does it does show uh the again that the the threat is real, um, and we need to be, you know, nine months to me. | ||
| I mean, I I'm a survivor of the Trump one, uh, the Trump one term where we had all the expectations in the world and and everything kind of conspired against it. | ||
| So I'm I'm a little more willing to uh to be patient just going forward, but it is obviously something that needs to be dealt with uh long term going forward for sure. | ||
| So I would say I would consider you uh you'll you'll deny this because you're a humble man, but I would consider you like one of the more tastemakers, I would say, on kind of the right wing. | ||
| Like I think a lot of people do, you know, look to your takes as kind of guidance on it's like um what's a style, a style chart? | ||
| Is that what the AP sent uh sends out to the press? | ||
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Oh yeah, yeah. | |
| But um and you you've emphasized the importance of like, okay, it takes a while to reorient a lot of these institutions towards the right, because they've obviously been used to wet they've been weaponized against the right for so long. | ||
| So it obviously takes a bit of time. | ||
| Me as a Zoomer, um, I'm 24, so I was 14 when Trump came down the escalator. | ||
| So I don't really remember an a GOP prior to Trump. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| Do you do you have maybe what's your what's your sort of I guess message to zoomers that are kind of dissatisfied with the pace of Trump's policy implementation? | ||
| Because it's very, very vehement on on the right. | ||
| I just anecdotally in my circles, people are always complaining. | ||
| It's totally understandable, but you have to remember at the end of the day that personnel is policy, right? | ||
| And so personnel is is what you want to be replacing. | ||
| And uh for so you know, Biden basically gutted these institutions and replaced all of all of the patriots, you know, whether it was in the military or whether it was in the FBI or whatever, and and basically filled it with these leftist agitators, Democrat Party, you know, aparatics, whatever. | ||
| And so, you know, you can you can turn things around, but if you have people below you who are not willing to uh carry out the policy or will sabotage you, and I think I'll segue that back into the Trump one campaign or Trump one term because that was really what happened there. | ||
| I mean, you had uh Trump won, but the GOP was still completely hostile to him, right? | ||
| They were still stuck in this sort of Mike Pence, Paul Ryan, this old school, you know, cut taxes and big business. | ||
| Like it was it was very boring, it was very hard to get excited about politics. | ||
| I think that's why when Trump came down, you know, a lot of us were like, oh wow, finally, uh, you know, finally we're gonna get somewhere here. | ||
| And then what happened was his own party sort of stifled him. | ||
| Uh the Democrats, you know, put him under investigation the entire time. | ||
| Uh, and so it was it was a disappointment, not because they weren't trying to do the right things, but I don't think they were prepared for the level of of how entrenched uh the interests opposing them were. | ||
| And I think now with the second term, it does seem like they're, you know, especially people like Stephen Miller, they're much more aware of of getting the right people in the right places so that they can they can do what they want. | ||
| And uh, yeah, I mean, I again I'm willing, I'm much more willing to be patient. | ||
| It's I've it's been eight years, it's been an eight long years since since that. | ||
| But uh, you know, I'm I'm hoping for I'm cautiously optimistic. | ||
| I'm I'm always consciously optimistic these days. | ||
| Because the messaging is great. | ||
| The messaging is is absolutely fantastic. | ||
| And so THS could be a mutual for all anyone knows. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
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| Um something wanted, I mean, it's kind of the steer back to kind of how we opened up the conversation. | ||
| Um what is it? | ||
| I've been trying I've been kind of diving into this this the last few days on the show. | ||
| What's specifically about ice is it that animates the left and these these hard left agitators? | ||
| There's something specifically out of all the agencies that pose a threat to their life, their livelihood rather, not their life, but their their their lifestyle. | ||
| Um, for one HHS taking their seed oils and soy away would have massive implications on them. | ||
| But you never really see much vitriol towards HHS beyond like kind of like little snippy comments. | ||
| But something about ice specifically really motivates them to go all out and like literally risk their lives. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| What do you think is going on there? | ||
| That's a million dollar question, honestly, because they're not even that vitriolic towards the police or or even even customs and border patrol. | ||
| Remember, there was that famous picture of the uh the guy last suing the the migrants on a horse, right? | ||
| That was just pretty keynote. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there was they're they were angry about that, but they're not angry enough to go out and uh, you know, protest and follow their cars. | ||
| Uh I think, yeah, I think I think they're just so invested in mass immigration. | ||
| I mean, really, that is like this sort of the shelling, like that's that's what they're if you could really reduce down the left, it's like they're all in on mass immigration, mass migration, and there's and ice is like the one obstacle, you know, other than say the say it's people like Stephen Miller. | ||
| That's the one obstacle to that. | ||
| And I think that's just like their most important. | ||
| They've decided that that is what they're all in on. | ||
| And so they're they're threatened. | ||
| I mean, I think they're genuinely threatened, and that's you know, the optics of picking people up off the street does kind of hit home. | ||
| It kind of makes it more real, right? | ||
| Like the police don't do that. | ||
| The police, you know, they'll arrest uh, you know, someone in in the midst of a burglary or go talk to someone at the door, but there's something about ice just like grabbing somebody and saying, you know, you don't belong you don't belong here, right? | ||
| Maybe that's what it is. | ||
| You don't belong here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's and it's so true. | ||
| I mean, yeah, I because I I was talking to uh Richie McGuinness yesterday, total patriot, um, great guy. | ||
| Uh I was talking to him on the show yesterday, and we kind of came to this, we made this point about Portland, and he and he pointed this out as like it's the whitest city, metro area in the United States by far. | ||
| It is a very, very white city. | ||
| And then it also is the point I made is it also happens to always be the hotbed of leftist activism. | ||
| And um, you know, for whatever, I mean I don't want to get into like the uh anthropology of their like politics or that sort of thing. | ||
| Richie actually did a great job breaking it down, but there is something kind of i ironic about how Portland being the whitest city, it's almost like it's the hub or the the haven for anti-white or self-hatred, because that ultimately seems to be what drives a lot of this vitriol against ICE is their sort of slavish devotion to mass immigration. | ||
| They kind of want to get replaced in their own country. | ||
| And you see this also in Britain, you see it in Germany, you see it in France. | ||
| They just that that's the one thing that really seems to motivate them. | ||
| And and maybe that's why Portland, you have a you have a high concentration of sort of self-hating white people. | ||
| It's gonna, they're gonna organize, they're gonna organize rapidly. | ||
| Well, any and with Portland too, the very interesting thing is that they had like the lit the most recent legacy, like with the Ku Klux Klan. | ||
| So there is like a a pretty recent in recent memory, there's a history that goes back there. | ||
| So I think a lot of it is this it's almost like a penance, right? | ||
| This sort of self-loathing, this we have to atone for the sins of of our ancestors, uh, you know, a real or imagined, right? | ||
| And then that manifests in, you know, the camp of the saints. | ||
| I mean, the Vaubin books re recently released that. | ||
| It's a fantastic book. | ||
| Everyone should be able to do that. | ||
| Connor Tomlinson did a great review on it too. | ||
| He did, yeah, yeah, he did. | ||
| Actually, I did read that. | ||
| And it's a it really does explain the sort of the psychology of the guilt behind all of this. | ||
| And it's uh, you know, you you can't really you can't even really reason people out of it. | ||
| That's the kind of interesting thing, is it's just so ingrained. | ||
| It's just it's it's very Portland is a hotbed. | ||
| It's been like that for years and years. | ||
| It's just now becoming uh sort of a national uh disgrace. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, well, that's that's that's the thing. | ||
| And it's it's a tough, it's a really tough kind of position to come to kind of giving up on debate because that's what we've prided ourselves on. | ||
| Like, I actually I think it's appropriate to give Ben Shapiro his flowers because he really is the one that made conservatives realize how important it is to engage in um polemics and like truth and debate and these sorts of things. | ||
| So I want to give him his flowers there because he was the first person that really brought that to the internet and like institutionalized that. | ||
| And I think there's something there. | ||
| Um but there's something kind of sad about giving up on the uh facts, don't care about your feelings sort of mentality, and kind of realizing like, yeah, you're not really gonna out debate, you're not gonna debate an Antifa member and like convince them. | ||
| It's just they're they want to kill you. | ||
| Like I people like that's really hard for people to accept and kind of um sort of conceptualize as like, oh no, he just wants to kill me. | ||
| He doesn't he views me as like a belligerent, not uh like a debate partner. | ||
| Well, you saw you we saw that with the reaction to the Charlie Kirk stuff, right? | ||
| People started to see that okay, even The average sort of lib was like gleefully celebrating it or doing some sort of tongue-in-cheek, you know, mocking it, sort of this derisive mocking. | ||
| And so it's, you know, you I guess you can sort of convince people on the margins. | ||
| And and the debate, when you debate someone, it's always for the audience, right? | ||
| I mean, yeah, you're you're always trying to win over the audience through you know, pathos and rhetoric and this sort of stuff. | ||
| You're not really trying to convince the other person. | ||
| Uh, but so I so I think that's still effective. | ||
| That's still a good thing to do. | ||
| You just have to realize that uh a debate can really only happen when there's some sort of common ground, and you know, and there's really no common ground between us and these kind of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, let's say let's let's kind of maybe give some projections to the next few months. | ||
| What because there's this moment after after the Kirk assassination where a lot of people are actually comparing it to like the post-9-11 era, where it really feels like how Bush had a mandate after 9-11, is Trump sort of as a mandate after the shooting to clean this up to mop this up. | ||
| Um we're seeing it with the foreign terrorist organization. | ||
| What are some kind of things that you need to see from the Trump administration to really fully put a lid on the far left political violence that we're enduring? | ||
| I think the main the main thing and the most important thing is just going after the networks behind the scenes. | ||
| Like it's not glorious, it's not flashy, you know, you're not gonna get those uh clipworthy scenes of arresting people. | ||
| But what you're going to do is you're gonna take down the the financial incentives that these people have to do what they do. | ||
| I mean, think about the average person going to a ride, like a protest, let's say, like say you're a like a 30-year-old guy, your family guy, you got a job. | ||
| You know, getting arrested, uh, you could mean you lose your job, you can't go to work, you have to pay a lawyer, you get you could get a criminal charge, and now you're sort of a black spot on your record. | ||
| None of these people seem to worry about that because they kind of know that they're gonna be taken care of at the end of the day, right? | ||
| And I think that removing that sort of uh incentive for them is going to be uh huge going forward because you're gonna get these people to start to be afraid to go out and afraid to get arrested and afraid to um you know get abandoned by their by their anti-fahandlers or whatever. | ||
| And I think that's that's to me the most important thing. | ||
| I mean, that kind of seems to be more important than even the successful implementation of policy, is creating the environment, like with immigration, it's almost like you just want to create the environment that anyone could get deported at any time, and that'll actually prompt self-deportation. | ||
| It's like ultimately, even if you're like the most, you know, if you love watching the ice raids and these sorts of things, even that person, which there's a lot of us around, uh, would admit that self-deportation is the most preferable because it's just like it a, it's not on our dime, and B, you don't have a video. | ||
| So it's almost like creating the environment is more much more important than the actual implementation. | ||
| Well, by I mean, Biden created like the Biden regime created an environment where people felt very comfortable to come across the border and get everything they wanted, right? | ||
| So it's just creating that reverse, like there was an incentive to come, right? | ||
| There was this like huge incentive to come, knowing that you're gonna be paroled if you're on the TPS program or these sorts of things, you're going to be brought into uh you know, wherever in the middle of the country, whereas now the environment is like you're not welcome and you could be sent home at any time. | ||
| And that that not only has a chilling effect on the people in the country, but that has a chilling effect across these networks where now people are not going to be able to shill uh you know human trafficking as easily as they used to be able to, because it gets down. | ||
| I mean, through you know, WhatsApp channels, through family channels, it gets down to these people that look, this is not as welcoming as it once was, and you shouldn't risk you know, your five thousand US dollars or ten thousand dollars to try and come across. | ||
| Do you think that do you think this environment could get Hassan Piker denaturalized and deported? | ||
| I mean, because that's ultimately the goal. | ||
| That would be, I mean that would be a pipe dream. | ||
| I would, I would be uh I would get a Trump tattoo on my back if that happens. | ||
| I'll get I'll get a MAGA tattoo for sure. | ||
| Yeah, if that happens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But but he, you know, he kind of like so he was born of a so from what I understand, I I barely remember his background. | ||
| His mother was like a professor here, yeah. | ||
| And then he was born here, like neither of the his parents, I don't think were citizens, and then they moved, so he got citizenship at his birth, and then they moved back to Turkey for most of his uh life. | ||
| So like nobody thinks this guy's American. | ||
| It's this sort of paper fiction American. | ||
| The hope the hope is that if you're a paperwork American, the paperwork can just be revoked. | ||
| So we'll we'll hope for that going forward. | ||
| Yeah, he's kind of the epitome, like when you're making the case to someone that's maybe unfamiliar with the issue. | ||
| Timcast viewers are you know clued in on this kind of thing, but to people that don't know the Anchor baby issue very well. | ||
| I think you can just show them Hassan Piker as kind of an explanation for like maybe why birthright citizenship isn't the best idea. | ||
| And then they can kind of just put the pieces together themselves. | ||
| Like, oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| We should probably like make sure that never happens again. | ||
| It's just such an insane position to think that you could be born of two non-citizens. | ||
| Say like a your mother's not here on like a student visa, she's studying, and then your father's like on a work visa and all of a sudden you're you've become American just by virtue of being born. | ||
| You know, it's it's when you actually like frame it like that and you break it down like that. | ||
| Yeah, I think most people like got good faith people will be like, okay, that's you know, that seems like a broken system to me. | ||
| Yeah, totally, dude. | ||
| Well, Martin, dude, we're kind of we're kind of running out of time. | ||
| I just want to say, do you have any maybe final thoughts and where people can find you to get more? | ||
| Uh no, no final thoughts. | ||
| I'm just an internet guy, just uh just an internet troll, just on on Twitter, I guess on X. Yeah. | ||
| I just dead named it, but uh yeah, that's what we do. | ||
| That's what we do. | ||
| We do we do a little dead naming, you know, it happens. | ||
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| But dude, thank you so much. | ||
| Thanks for coming on. | ||
| Um I guess we'll catch you next time. | ||
| Yeah, thanks. | ||
| Have a good one. | ||
| You too. | ||
| All righty. | ||
| Well, that was the Captive Dreamer. | ||
| Uh legendary, legendary poster. | ||
| Obviously, I think uh in large part should get his flowers for getting the um getting the uh Trump administration uh you know, sort of reoriented. | ||
| I uh we were describing it earlier at the beginning of the story. | ||
| Like, yeah, I remember kind of going, I was like, oh, the energy's a little a little low for Trump. | ||
| I mean, like this is Trump here. | ||
| He's it's so enigmatic and that sort of thing. | ||
| And um, dude, yeah, that hate that Haiti moment and they're in the debate. | ||
| They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats, and Kamala thought it was the most ridiculous thing ever. | ||
| She's cackling. | ||
| And then you go and you look at what people are saying like on Facebook, and they're like, yeah, they are. | ||
| Here's a here's a picture of it. | ||
| Like they actually are doing that. | ||
| And of course, all the press scramble to debunk it right away. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| No, he wasn't, he was kissing. | ||
| He was kissing the duck. | ||
| He wasn't eating it. | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| So it was a beautiful moment. | ||
| And it was, yeah, in large part, in large part due to um due to the captive dreamer. | ||
| So uh let me see here. | ||
| We're gonna raid um we we got a raid scheduled that I was uh informed about. | ||
| Uh let's see. | ||
| Uh Devorey Dawkins, I believe we're raiding today. | ||
| Um, I don't see I don't see his, I don't see him have a live stream up. | ||
| Oh, wait. | ||
| Oh no, it says live on the thumbnail, but he's not live. | ||
| So I don't know. | ||
| I'll um I'll I'll link it in there if if it goes live here. | ||
| But uh yeah, we'll be back tonight for Timcast IRL. | ||
| We'll have a great show tonight for you. | ||
| It's gonna be fantastic. | ||
| So you'll want to be here at 8 p.m. on the not on the nose. | ||
| Um be ready for it. | ||
| We'll have another guest host tonight. | ||
| It's very exciting. | ||
| Um with that, you can follow me on X and Instagram at realTate Brown. | ||
| Come hang out. | ||
| Thanks for uh letting me hold it down this week. | ||
| This I think we you know we got it across the finish line. | ||
| We're just we're slowly getting uh you know getting getting adequated. | ||
| I I did the opening monologue yesterday. | ||
| I don't know what you guys thought of that. | ||
| Maybe you can give me some thoughts if you liked it. | ||
| If you don't, if you want me to stick with more of the loose style, hey, that's what I'm here for for uh tape cast. | ||
| It's it's audience driven. | ||
| We're a family, you know, when you're here, family it's all of garden. | ||
| Um, so yeah, follow me there and uh I don't know when I'll see you guys again, probably on on IRL. | ||
| I think I'm on IRL Friday. | ||
| So yeah, we'll see you there. | ||
| Uh with that. |