The Culture War - Tim Pool - Leftist Attack on SCOTUS Fails, Antifa Crackdown Begins ft. Richie McGinnis

Oct. 8, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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Leftist Attack on SCOTUS Fails, Antifa Crackdown Begins ft. Richie McGinnis

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unidentified		I think it'll be interesting, the combination of the National Guard, ICE, and Trump moving, you know, those various federal forces throughout the country.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		It's a question of what bad thing can happen when that's happening on such a broad scale.
unidentified		And then how is that going to set off potentially another George Floyd type situation or the situation with Jacob Blake and Kenosha?
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		So it really just takes one spark to then devolve things into chaos.
unidentified		Hey guys, Tate Brown here holding it down for Tim Poole.
unidentified		Today's interview, we got Richie McGinnis.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		He is an expert on all things leftist violence.
		So we had to bring him in to discuss Antifa, the situation in Portland, how Antifa is operating, where their money's coming from, how the feds could better crack down on them.
		It's a great interview.
unidentified		Please enjoy.
		So you want to give people a quick introduction, who you are, what you do.
		I'm Richie McGinnis.
		Well, I worked in D.C. media for the last decade.
		I went from MSNBC to Mark Levin to running the video Daily Caller.
		And now I wrote the book over my shoulder here, right?
		About all the civil unrest in 2020, the so-called Summer of Love, and then on into 2021.
		And now I run the publishing company I started for that book because every publisher was telling me Trump wasn't going to make it through the primary.
		That's called Pigeon Press.
		And I work at a couple different websites.
		Got about four jobs right now.
		Dude, that's bass.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I love it.
unidentified		I love it.
		Dude, well, unfortunately, you know leftists very well.
		I was, you know, opened up the show with the story out of DC.
		This church was targeted specifically because of Supreme Court justices that were scheduled to attend a mass on Sunday.
		And he had like 200 explosive devices on him.
		Obviously, it was foiled, thankfully.
		But the environment in the country is getting scary.
		It really feels like there's a large proportion of the country with nothing to lose that are ready to snap at any moment.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Can you maybe dive a little deeper into the psychology behind these sorts of people?
unidentified		Because I mean, obviously you're quite familiar with them.
		Yeah, I think it's basically a similar mirror image of what we saw in 2020, and that obviously that was during a campaign season.
		So it's a little bit different.
		And the pandemic, I think, is obviously a major additional question mark, which, you know, obviously hyper generated everybody's anger.
		And, you know, when they finally got into the streets, they had all this pent up frustration.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		But the parallels that I see are, number one, the galvanizing factor out there isn't like one specific ideology.
unidentified		It's never Trumpism.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		It's we all hate Trump and all of his stormtroopers.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		And so what you see in Portland or in various cities around the country, obviously Chicago right now, is the same thing we saw in front of the Portland courthouse in 2020, which is Trump's not going to bring his stormtroopers in here.
unidentified		We're not going to cooperate with the DHS who are trying to protect this federal building.
unidentified		And that's what galvanizes everybody to come to the streets.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		Now, what I'll say is different this time around is, number one, the fact that we've been there before.
unidentified		So on both sides of the equation, both the reporters, the people, the media who's showing people what's going on there, as well as the people out on the streets are much more well-versed of where the cameras are and who's filming and specifically how the media landscapes function right now.
unidentified		And so they're always looking for adversarial media.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		I think we would dress like them and, you know, kind of slide under the radar for most of that summer.
unidentified		And that's not the case anymore.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		So you see a lot more open confrontations between media and the people out on the streets, specifically the ones who are the biggest agitators.
unidentified		So this attack, he had this notebook on him, I think, like basically his manifesto.
		And he specifically cited ICE.
		And then we're seeing in Portland, ICE is on the receiving end of all the vitriol.
		And then obviously this is nested within the never Trumpism.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What specifically do you think it is about ICE that really sets these people off?
unidentified		Well, immigration has been an issue that has been barely touched by either party for 40 years.
		And so really it's a powder keg that's built up over decades because if you look at Barack Obama, one famous man on the street we did when we were at the caller was we would read Barack Obama's immigration quotes and say, well, you think that the president said this?
		They say, Trump this, Trump that.
		We reveal to them, oh, it was Barack Obama.
		So these open border policies have been pursued for across Republican and Democratic administrations for 40 years.
		And this election 2024 was immigration was probably the highest on the list that it's ever been in American history.
		And that's, I was at the border in March of 2021 sounding the alarm because every single migrant who came over the border illegally into the United States, I interviewed them as they took their first steps into the country and prepared to surrender themselves to Border Patrol on purpose because they said explicitly, every single one, hundreds, we came because Joe Biden is president now and we know we can come in and we know we're going to get, you know, to go a flight to go see our families.
		And so the fact of the matter is this toothpaste has come out of the tube.
		And the question now is, how do we fix that?
		Well, obviously the left isn't willing to give an inch on this.
		I mean, you see that with the healthcare bill right now.
		And so the galvanizing factor now isn't necessarily, you know, there's different manifestations of how Trump actually impacts these various cities.
		So it's not the DHS troops in front of the federal courthouse.
		It's ICE.
		And it's a far more national issue because obviously ICE is operating in all these different cities and you have the sanctuary policies.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		So in that respect, I think it's actually a much broader and potentially more dangerous issue than it was in 2020 when, you know, you only had these hotbeds of Seattle or Portland or D.C. or New York where the civil unrest was popping off.
unidentified		Obviously, Kenosha being another good example.
		National Guard was there, but they didn't end up actually doing anything to keep the businesses from burning.
		And obviously, from what happened with the shooting to take place, it was a complete power vacuum.
		So I think it'll be interesting, the combination of the National Guard, ICE, and Trump moving those various federal forces throughout the country.
		It's a question of what bad thing can happen when that's happening on such a broad scale.
		And then how is that going to set off potentially another George Floyd type situation or the situation with Jacob Blake and Kenosha?
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		So it really just takes one spark to then devolve things into chaos.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Well, the Portland situation is specifically interesting to me because that's where you seem to see the most pressure put on ICE, where you have the most extended protests, like they go all night, these sorts of things.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		And Portland is like the whitest city in America.
unidentified		And so part of me wonders if the psychology, like kind of underlying this, is really self-hatred.
		They hate being white.
		They hate America.
		And ICE is really the last thing standing between them and just demographically replacing themselves because ICE is seeking to slow that down and potentially reverse it.
		And so for me, I think the reason Portland specifically is where you're seeing the most vitriol is just because of these self-hating white people.
		It's funny you say that because I've dedicated a number of pages to that in my book in the Portland chapter because Portland, yeah, it's number one, it's below 5% black and even today.
		And historically, all the way through the 1970s, there were laws that prohibited blacks from attaining property within Portland city limits.
		And so this, and actually, it was a stronghold, you know, pre-World War II, pre-World War I, it was a stronghold for the KKK.
		And there were a number of anti-Chinese riots that took place where, you know, fires were set and burned down Chinatown in Portland.
		So this is something that I definitely touched on because when you're out there, it's like predominantly white.
		So it was even stranger in 2020 when it was a Black Lives Matter demonstration.
		And you had Philip, I forget his last name.
		He's a tall black dude who was a conservative activist at the time.
		And he's standing in front of the fence saying, don't smash into this fence.
		You know, the cops are just going to come out.
		It's going to make the cause worse.
		So you're going to make us look bad.
		And they're all yelling at him, a bunch of white people telling him to get out of the way and let them basically agitate the police.
		So Portland is definitely has done a 180 as far as their perspective on race relations and their responsibility to go out there.
		And I guess creating chaos somehow in their minds solves this situation.
		I mean, whether it's ICE or DHS or Portland PD, my opinion was always the fact that, you know, the more that you beat up on conservative commentators who might be out there, the more that you agitate police, that the worse that makes your cause look.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		The best thing you can do is go out there and actually be peaceful.
unidentified		So what do you think Antifa's goals are at this point?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Because obviously they can see the hammer coming down, right?
unidentified		This is the first time, at least since Antifa's really emerged in the 21st century, and in large part that it seems like the feds are really just intent on destroying them.
		What do you think their strategy is now?
		What do you think?
		Well, the way that Antifa is built is actually, for lack of a better comparison, I studied Arabic and lived in the Middle East, and I've studied the Muslim Brotherhood extensively.
		And ultimately, it's a decentralized group of cells who operate independently of any kind of central hierarchy.
		And the fact of the matter is, when you're out on the streets, it's very rare that you say, you'll see an Antifa flag, you'll see a patch.
		But if you go up to somebody and say, hey, yo, are you Antifa?
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		It's a lot different than if you go up to a proud boy and say, hey, are you a proud boy?
		There literally says proud boy on their shirt.
		So it's intentionally anonymous.
		A lot of the conversations about strategies and whatnot take place through encrypted apps.
unidentified		In 2020, I was in a lot of those, infiltrated a lot of those groups.
		And that's where they're really planning the most extreme measures, like building Molotov cocktails.
		And they'll do it also through meet and greets at their safe houses, which they have throughout the city.
		And so they do operate similar to the way that a terrorist cell would operate.
		With that being said, it's almost impossible to say all these people are Antifa because ultimately there's a group, a number of groups of people out there.
		They're like the first timers who come out there, want to test it out.
		Usually most of them will leave when the violence starts to happen.
		Then there's like the hardcore young people who are new to the game, but they can be very dangerous because they have a lot of energy.
		They're kind of ignorant to how these things can devolve into chaos and get really dangerous.
		And then there are like the salty locals who have been out there since 2020 and they come out and you see the same people every night.
		And so between those three groups, there are a certain number who are affiliated and or communicating with Antifa.
		But just because they're wearing all black, you know, it doesn't mean that they're necessarily explicitly like, oh, yeah, let's go out and firebomb this place.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's what seems to make it tricky.
unidentified		Obviously, Trump declared them to be a terrorist cell, but it was domestic.
		So there's not really any like legal, nothing changes legally unless he were to declare them like a foreign terrorist organization.
		Tim's made the point that they are, because Antifa does operate like in Paris and Berlin and et cetera, et cetera.
		But specifically in the United States, like you're saying, it gets a bit muddied who's in, who's out.
		I mean, some of these clubs like the John Brown Gun Club, maybe do you start there?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Because that seems to be a bit more formal.
unidentified		Yeah, we saw the John Brown Gun Club.
		That's a tongue twister outside of doing security in Seattle at the Chaz.
		So if you guys remember, Chaz was a six-block area that the Seattle police chief and mayor, Mayor Durkin, and Carmen Best was the police chief, capitulated a six-block area to the protesters.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		And what's the first thing they did?
unidentified		Set up borders with checkpoints and put armed guards at those borders.
		And so we had a couple of encounters with members of the John Brown Gun Club.
		And right at my alma mater in DC, I mean, DC of all places for a gun club, right?
		Georgetown, in northwest D.C., there was a flyer for the John Brown Gun Club in Red Square, which is one of the main squares in Georgetown.
		And it was soliciting applications.
		I mean, it takes like a year to get a concealed carry permit in D.C., so I don't know exactly how that functions.
		But the fact of the matter is those groups should be examined.
		And this is the same as the funding that comes from the protests.
		Who's paying for the signs?
		Who's paying to transport these people in and out?
		Well, the answer is the names are constantly changing by design.
		So the open, if you follow like George Soros' Open Society Foundation, you'll see they give to, well, in this election cycle, it might be called Indivisible.
		And in the next one, it'll be called something different.
		So they'll fund the side of the transportation, the signage.
		They'll print all that stuff out.
		And then you have another level of agitators who are specifically organizing themselves in much seedier, more shadowy realms, not through the nonprofits, but they capitalize on that protest as a power vacuum.
		So it is, it's complicated by design.
		And that's kind of the scary part.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		But ultimately, I think if you're investigating it, you do two things.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		You follow the actual people who are perpetrating violence in the street.
unidentified		And if you arrest them, you investigate them, you find who they were communicating with.
		And then on the other side, you follow the money because the money is where these protests are actually being sprung up, all the social media arms.
		And that takes a lot of resources and people to get these protests to actually take place, whether it's the No Kings, whether it's the anti-Tesla stuff.
		And all of this stuff is funded by groups like Indivisible.
		And it's like a web of various nonprofits.
		And that's the same way that they do it in the Middle East, by the way.
		Dude, I mean, it's that.
		And you see like in Portland.
		I mean, I keep going back to Portland.
		That's just where a lot of the content is right now, where the Portland police just kind of stand down.
		I think that'd be the most gratuitous explanation of what's going on.
		The Portland police were certainly less confrontational than definitely in 2020.
		And from what I can gather, definitely right now, than any of the federal troops who come in.
		So at the time, it was DHS surrounding the federal courthouse.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, Portland also, the Portland PD, also, it's kind of like darned if you do, darned if you don't, because the policies that are surrounding them as a local police department are very, very strict.
unidentified		And, you know, the last thing that they want is another BLM situation where somebody gets violent and then they get hurt and things, everything gets worse.
		So in a lot of ways, they're handcuffed with what kind of non-lethals they can use.
		And you've seen around the ICE facility, that's definitely not the case.
		I mean, what does this say about the United States, the environment we're in?
		I mean, obviously here at Timcast, Civil War predictions are quite rife.
		It's kind of how it goes.
		I mean, yeah, I don't know if I'm there.
		I'm closer to that position than I've ever been because I'm seeing a vast chunk of the country that's just egging on political violence.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		They love seeing what happened to Charlie Kirk.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean, they would give this like half-hearted condemnation, but ultimately they were like, well, you're still a fascist at the end of the day.
unidentified		And I'm like, how do I share a country with these people ultimately?
		I mean, I can't.
		I can't live like this.
		Yeah, it's crazy because I was bumping between the Proud Boys during all the Stop the Steel stuff and then the counter protesters who were in DC.
		And it really is, it's like two completely different worlds.
		The fact of the matter is, is that right now, the way that all the algorithms are set up on Twitter, whatever it is, YouTube, Instagram, META, whatever you want to call it, they direct you towards two different, one of two echo chambers.
		If you're looking at political content and when it comes to these kinds of protests and stuff and I this has been the case in 2020 as well as now if you say Antifa terrorist does x, you're going to get more retweets than if you say a guy wearing all black did this because you don't you know, you don't know what his background is.
		And look I, I get it, but it does create a situation.
		And then the other side is taking that same clip and you know, cutting it up, taking it out of context, just that one part where the cop pepper sprays whoever and then they say, look at the police brutality.
		So you have the exact same clip that's being viewed completely differently by the two different sides of the country and unfortunately, with social media, people aren't willing to like kind of look and get the bigger picture.
		If you look at Jacob Blake, the shooting that that kicked off the police involved, shooting that kicked off all of the riots in Kenosha he was armed with a knife uh, and the video that went across social media caused the NBA to cancel games.
		You know, you had the entire media saying that he was shot in front of his kids.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		Kamala Harris said that uh, Joe Biden said that, and the fact of the matter is the kids that he was shot in front of were his kids and the baby mama had there was a warrant out for his arrest for domestic abuse of her and she had called the police saying, i'm worried for my safety.
unidentified		He's back.
		And so they came out because he had a warrant for his arrest and those kids, you know, were the kids also of the woman that he had battered uh, so he was trying to.
		The video shows him get tased as he's trying to get into the car and it didn't didn't show the fact that he was armed with a knife.
		And then uh, he was also tased previously to that and the police had done everything they could to non-lethally subdue him and uh, he was effectively potentially entering that vehicle to, you know, kidnap the kids.
richie mcginniss ▲ ● ▼		So uh, that that context is important and that's not what we're getting still to this day, and that's why I appreciate, you know, Tim Cast and going on there because you can talk about these things at greater length than just whatever's on your twitter timeline.
unidentified		Yeah, I mean yeah, I agree, like the echo chambers is a problem.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		I mean part of it though, is I think it's just exploiting very real divisions that are kind of irreconcilable to a large degree, because i'm like, I mean I, I I do agree.
unidentified		Yeah, the the echo chambers thing is an issue, but when I see people that believe that having a position on abortion like Charlie Kirks warrants death, I mean I don't know if that's if that's created by social media or if that's a division that already exists that's just exploited by by social media.
		Yeah well, I don't think it's necessarily.
		Well, it's created by social media in, I think, a couple of different ways.
		Number one, like the content that people are actually viewing, but number two, the fact that social media makes you so hyper aware of all the things that you don't have.
		And I think, if you're constantly jumping into the lives by the way, behind filters and behind, you know, set up shoots, even people who rent, you know, porsches to make themselves look richer the image that you're seeing on social media is telling you oh, the grass is greener over there there, and that didn't exist in the past.
		So I think, young people entering the job market I entered, I graduated high school in 2008 and so you know it's a similar feeling, but it's it's.
		It's supercharged by the fact that we were using AOL Instant Messenger back then and, like BlackBerries, So it's to a certain extent, there's a spiritual sickness that pervades across all of these dissident and extremist groups.
		And it causes them to branch out into their tribe, their digital media tribe.
		And that's their community now.
		So if you have all our local newspapers are dried up, people aren't going to church.
		They don't have that aspect of community.
		Less people are doing sports and living in small towns.
		And so, you know, when we, whereas we growing up went outside to, you know, play with our buddies and ride on bikes for a couple hours, like now they're sitting playing video games, shooting people.
		I played Halo, but it was, you know, it wasn't everything that we did.
		It just was, and you weren't integrated with six different devices at the same time.
		So I don't know where it goes from here because honestly, it only seems to be getting worse.
		And Trump still has two and a half more years.
		So you can stop these things.
		Three years in a month, a couple months.
		Sorry.
		Right.
		Yeah.
		I was checking my math.
		Well, it's like even at the institutional level, like, okay, yeah, there's things we can mitigate as far as like Antif and these sorts of things.
		But the issue you're addressing is really important, which is, I mean, the big incidents have been carried out by like atomized young people.
		And A, because they're just tapped into this online world that they get that socialization bug out there.
		It kind of gives them this false sense of socialization.
		And maybe that can like mask the spiritual rot for like a proportion of time.
		And then they get radicalized on these online groups.
		That's one thing, like with the discords and everything.
		But then also like just the way the economy is and the way the pathways to matriculation for young adults is just completely broken down.
		So they just really feel like they have nothing to lose.
		And that's a really petrifying thing.
		So you have people with radical political ideology.
		That's one thing.
		We're used to that.
		Like people with radical political ideology have been around for a long time and they just kind of mind their own business.
		When they have nothing to lose, that's when it gets very worrying.
		That's when they snap, so to speak.
		Yeah.
		And the irony of the whole thing is that the hollowing out of the middle class and the hollowing out of opportunities for young people to have a home and a, you know, a vehicle and a stable job, that all took place over 40 years across what I would call the Uni Party.
		And I would put Barack Obama, having even knocked on doors for him in 2008 as an idealistic 18-year-old.
		You know, I would put him into the category of the Uniparty who appealed to, I mean, he bailed out the banks in 2008.
		And so when that happens across the Reagan, Bush one, Clinton, and Bush two, and then Obama, you know, that is actually the preconditions that created the opportunity for a Trump to actually take power.
		So there's, it's something ironic when they're saying, oh, everybody who voted for him is a Nazi and a fascist.
		Whereas when if you look at it through a different lens, like I started working for Mark Levin in 2015 and I saw the Tea Party and then how that kind of played into a lot of the grassroots approaches that Trump took to his platform and something as simple as build a wall.
		I've talked to hundreds of border patrol agents.
		They all say a wall is a good idea because you can't drive across the border.
		So, you know, and if you kind of have to climb, that's harder than walking.
		You kind of have to dig a tunnel.
		That's harder than driving.
		Right.
		So, and then everybody's saying it's the dumbest thing in the world in 2016 when Trump was running on that platform.
		And so it's like this detachment from reality that's now taking place because everybody has such a personal animus towards Trump, but they can't see the historical antecedents for that.
		And it's like they're all saying it's unprecedented.
		Yeah, it's unprecedented how, I guess, since the Gilded Age, we haven't had this disparity between the rich and the poor.
		Yeah.
		And that's the last time that that's when William Jennings Bryan really initiated that transition for the Democratic Party to go from the party of the South to the party of the working class by FDR's time.
		And now we're seeing that paradigm shift in the other direction.
		And it's just, I'm asking the question, 2016, I thought it was going to happen in 2024.
		I thought, oh, the Democrats, maybe they'll get a reckoning.
		And it just doesn't seem like they've really figured out the fact that running for the same mold business in D.C. is not going to work among the American voters right now, especially young people.
		Well, and it seems like Democrats now are beholden to that same activism class that drives the same sort of ideological impulses that drive Antifa.
		So it's like, that's why a lot of people are saying at this point, Antifa could be viewed as sort of the paramilitary arm of the Democrat Party.
	Yeah.
	There was that famous Jerry Nadler quote, oh, Antifa is a myth.
	That was in the summer of 2020.
	And it's, but they still, they're still maintaining that that is the case, that it's not really, and it's, it's so ridiculous because obviously now there are countless acts of violence that took place.
	You know, obviously there's a, was it Derek Reinhold in 2020?
	There's basically a Praetor member of the Patriot Paired just shot dead in the street by somebody who actively said that they were Antifa.
	I mean, literally publicly said that, and then got into a shootout with police and died.
	And so it's not new to see that Antifa has been people who actually acknowledge I'm part of Antifa have committed these violent acts and they're still saying that it's some kind of myth.
	I think it's just it's because of the echo chambers that we have, they're never going to be in front of somebody who really holds them accountable unless they're in some house hearing, you know, once in a blue moon.
	So we're also in a situation in D.C. where it's not just the country that's split between rural and urban and left and right, but the city is like, if you're a reporter, it's really difficult.
	Oh, where did you work?
	Oh, no, I'm not going to do an interview with you.
	You worked at the Daily Caller.
	Yeah.
	Or the same thing happens in reverse.
	And that's why I appreciate Tim Cast too, because it's like you guys have cross-pollination and not everybody has to agree.
	And Tim, you know, former lefty like me, like knocking on doors.
	I was knocking on doors for Obama.
	Tim was, you know, in Ferguson and at Occupy.
	And then it's like really hard for the left to wrap their heads around the fact that all these people who voted for Obama then voted, turned around and voted for Trump.
	Yeah.
	So it's true.
	Well, I guess one more question with Portland.
	How effective, if the National Guard is able to finally deploy, how effective do you think that's going to be letting those federal agents do their job and conduct?
	Do you think they're actually going to be able to crack down on Antifa in any effective way?
	Because I mean, there's a lot of those guys.
	Well, there's some factors involved.
	I mean, obviously, this case that's pending that was just challenged, Trump being able to even bring them in.
	Well, the fact of the matter is, is first thing that happens is going to be what happened in 2020, which is the feds come in and then it kind of amplifies the response, right?
	Because they're like, okay, here come the feds.
	Now we have our cause.
	Trump's stormtroopers are here.
	And so in the short term, I think that will definitely happen.
	And it's just a question of what the numbers are because ultimately, however big that swelling of the crowd is, they're going to have to match that from an enforcement perspective so that they don't have to use the force multipliers that make things get out of control, like, you know, tear gas and pepper spray.
	Because ultimately, when cops use those measures, it's because they're overwhelmed.
	It's because they're outnumbered.
	It's because they need to get things under control.
	So I think if you're going to get it under control, you really just need to make sure that your numbers in terms of enforcement are greater than what they're going to be able to dish out in the streets on the other side of things.
	And that's where you'll see it maintain more of a peaceful posture than if they're overwhelmed and don't have any support from local PD and don't have any support from the local government.
	Well, yeah, because that's, I mean, that's what that's what I've seen is there's like, what, nine, 900 federal agents that are available to even protect these buildings.
	So it's like, yeah, the National Guard is a no-brainer because obviously Portland police, I mean, the city of Portland gave the feds a code violation for boarding up the windows.
	So there's like, it's clearly they're antagonistic to the feds at this point.
	And it's the same thing as 2020.
	I mean, people, Jenny, literally the Chaz took place in Seattle because from the governor Inslee on down to Mayor Durkin wanted to put their thumb in the eye of Trump and get the national attention of, I'm the Democratic politician who's standing up to fascism.
	And this is Orange Man bad.
	And so look at me.
	I'm so righteous.
	And then you get the national attention, you get the spotlight.
	And it's the same thing taking place yet again.
	And so it's going to be a matter of whether or not they're able to muster the actual number of people that they need out in the streets defending these various, whether it's the ICE facility or the federal courthouse.
	You know, if they're overwhelmed, then boom, here we have tear gas and then here comes more chaos.
	Yeah.
	Dude, this is going to be a wild few weeks watching this unfold.
	Where can people find you?
	Where can they get more?
	So you can check out Riot Diet at pigeonpress.com.
	And we got a couple more books coming out there.
	And you can follow me at Richie McGinnis, R-I-C-H-I-E-M-C-G-I-N-N-I-S-S.
	Base, dude.
	Thank you, Richie.
	See you next time, man.
	Hey, thanks for having me.
	Always a pleasure.
	All righty.
	All righty.
	Well, that was the great Richie McGinnis.
	Dude, so thankful he's able to hop on, really break down like the situation, what's going on there.
	These videos out of Portland are just absolutely mad.
	So thankfully, Trump, this litigation should, he should win.
	He's Trump.
	He always wriggles out of these jams.
	And we'll see how it goes.
	But we'll be back tonight for Timcast IRL at 8 p.m.
	We got a big show tonight.
	So be there for that.
	You don't want to miss it.
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	I tried to switch up the style today.
	I tried to do like opening monologue, like Tucker style.
	But I was like super rigid and stiff during.
	I don't know.
	Maybe you just like day drink or something.
	I think that seems to be what a lot of people do.
	But I'm just kidding, just kidding, disavow.
	We don't do that here.
	But yeah, thanks for watching.
	See you guys at Timcast IRL.

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