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| Dude, like the shortest views you've ever seen. | ||
| And that's where I I I honestly I was talking about this yesterday. | ||
| I think that they're pretty lucky that their opposition is so tolerant because um, you know, it's it's they just the shortest views ever. | ||
| That's that video yesterday from last night of Nick's order walking through the encampment. | ||
| And and look, like actually that's that's what all the local news stations should be doing. | ||
| You that's that's journalism right there. | ||
| Hey, are they gonna snap fight simply walk on a public sidewalk? | ||
| Is that gonna happen? | ||
| Okay, so that's what he did, and the entire situation erupted, right? | ||
| It just exploded. | ||
| Hello, everyone. | ||
| This is Tate Brown here. | ||
| I got a great interview with James Klug. | ||
| We discuss all things Portland. | ||
| He is on the ground in Portland, and with these interviews, you do get a bit of background noise. | ||
| So apologies for that, but uh it's a great interview. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| All right, we're here with the great James Klug. | ||
| I don't know, James, most of the people in the audience probably know who you are, but do you want to give a quick introduction to those who maybe don't? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely, man. | ||
| Thanks for having me. | ||
| So yeah, I I I create uh street videos, do mini documentaries, interviews, political commentary. | ||
| My YouTube channel is YouTube.com slash James Klug and uh in Portland, Oregon right now, documenting kind of what's going on with uh Antifa. | ||
| Yeah, so what have you seen so far? | ||
| I mean, this has been going on now for weeks, but as far as the feds getting involved heavily, it seems like this is really ramped up the last few days. | ||
| So, like what's the situation on the ground? | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| So I I got into town uh two days ago, and we went over to the uh ice detention facility. | ||
| That's primarily like the the entire block around the ice detention facility in Portland is where basically everything's going down. | ||
| It's just all day long, right? | ||
| Antifa set up encampments, there are people there 24-7 making noise, they've taken over an entire part of the street, which is uh obviously, you know, it's public property. | ||
| So they've taken over an entire part of the street. | ||
| But from what I've seen, you know, I got here what the day after Nick's order was arrested. | ||
| So I was kind of uh getting filled in on everything that was going on, getting an idea of what's going on on the ground. | ||
| And essentially what they have is they keep arresting like conservative independent journalists that are going there. | ||
| And basically what they're doing is they're like displaying, okay. | ||
| Well, hey, I'm walking around, I'm reporting and doing my stuff, and that's enough to trigger the activists into completely freaking out, losing their crap. | ||
| And uh in his case, he was surrounded, people were assaulting him. | ||
| Obviously, I mean you can it's all you know, it's all on video, you can see it. | ||
| And he was uh, you know, I was I was doing an interview with him, and he was saying, you know, I I tried to defend myself, I missed, and then I got arrested for it. | ||
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Um you know, so he didn't even he didn't even quite defend himself. | |
| It's not like he like jumped into a fight or anything, but we're seeing that kind of trend over the last couple days as well. | ||
| You'll see um, you know, it's it's people acting up, they get a take over a certain part of the street. | ||
| If you enter that part of their street, right? | ||
| If you enter that public property that they've I guess claimed, uh, they'll start basically attacking you. | ||
| So the people that are fighting back on that, you'll get a few individuals that might go in there or something and and a big brawl starts. | ||
| Basically, the people that are getting arrested have been conservative. | ||
| I think there's been a couple of Antifa members that just like outside of the detention facility have been arrested as well, but it's I don't know, it seems as though it's a little bit more one-sided. | ||
| Uh, and that would be more around like Portland police department, which is you know, there's a different story when it comes to the federal property. | ||
| Portland police department has definitely had a hands-off approach when it comes to Antifa and the other left-wing groups that are there. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, because I I keep seeing these videos of Antifa openly agitating right in front of police. | ||
| And then you pair that with the reports we're seeing where like the feds tried to board up the building and then they got issued a code violation by the Portland, you know, city council. | ||
| And so you're seeing these sets of things. | ||
| And I don't know, are you seeing much? | ||
| I don't know if collaboration is the right word, but are you seeing much like coordination between the police and Antifa? | ||
| Because there seems to be some sort of understanding that those two groups have come to. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, I think the the overall approach has just been let them essentially do whatever they want. | ||
| Um, and in look, I mean, for them, that's really great because then they just get to take over blocks and harass federal agents all day and all that stuff, but that has consequences, right? | ||
| So um, you know, I don't know if I see so much uh Yeah, I've only been in town for a couple days, but for the most part, just across the board, it's obviously hands-off approach when it comes to the Antifa militants outside, right? | ||
| So that's bottom line. | ||
| But there's consequences to this, right? | ||
| So there's, you know, taxpayers that are driving through this public street, right? | ||
| Because that's right out front of the ice attention facility. | ||
| There's a storage facility. | ||
| There was a school in that school, elementary school, that school picked up and left. | ||
| Okay, so they they just totally left. | ||
| I believe occupancy in the nearby apartments is around like 30% or so. | ||
| That's what I was told. | ||
| And so there's consequences to this stuff. | ||
| And so you have a lot of taxpayers that are driving through the streets saying, why are we still dealing with this? | ||
| What is going on? | ||
| And you know, I think at a certain point you're looking at that saying, well, the police department's not representing those people that have a problem with it, right? | ||
| Thousands of letters sent to the city. | ||
| They're not representing those people, but they are representing and protecting the people that are causing the chaos. | ||
| And the interesting part about that too is I was doing a bunch of interviews this weekend, which for some reason these people are doing interviews um outside of the ICE facility. | ||
| I think this is kind of new, that's not really a thing. | ||
| That certainly wasn't the case in like 2020 or 2021. | ||
| They weren't doing that. | ||
| Uh so interesting. | ||
| There, there's a difference there. | ||
| But I was interviewing a lot of these people, and you know, they were blaming all of that on ice, or maybe the Republicans, you know, because there's so many in Portland. | ||
| Um, instead of blaming their demonstrations and riots that were driving companies and schools out of town and causing the chaos. | ||
| Dude, I mean, at a certain point, because you're seeing these videos, like Nick Sorter had a video up of like a Portland resident. | ||
| And by all accounts, I mean, just going off the numbers, likely they're a Democrat, likely they're uh a Kamala voter. | ||
| And you and you see them driving through, and they're clearly agitated with the Antifa, you know, basically functioning as traffic guards. | ||
| Um so clearly there's a frustration there. | ||
| Um But this this won't seem to translate into like any any it's not gonna change anything election-wise. | ||
| I don't I don't I don't think so because this has been happening in Portland for a while. | ||
| Like I don't know why now all of a sudden they they think it's any different. | ||
| Um, but then you see the resistance, you see the resistance once the feds come in and everyone loses their minds. | ||
| But uh so I mean I I guess all this to say, have you spoken to locals? | ||
| What do they think about the Fed, the feds coming in about the Fed crackdown? | ||
| Dude, it's Portland. | ||
| So like you will get locals that have a problem with it and stuff, but for the most part, a lot of this stuff. | ||
| I mean, the reason why you're seeing this hands-off approach when it comes to these militants that are causing this chaos, right? | ||
| The reason why you're seeing this is because the people in the city agree with it. | ||
| A lot, a lot of the people do, and I feel I feel really bad for the people that don't because you know, they're just kind of getting abused. | ||
| Um, but a lot of people in the city, a lot of people around town, uh, even people in the apartment complex right across from the ice facility, like they're like participating, some of them, right? | ||
| And I would imagine the others are just remaining silent and hoping it stops one day. | ||
| I mean, I don't know what's going on there. | ||
| Um, when it comes to the a lot of it has to do with though is um a lot of people don't really understand like the purpose for let's say, okay, well, like they're not understanding why National Guard would have to be there because there are certain moments where um, and I don't I don't want to say like, oh, the sky's falling and it's chaos all day long. | ||
| It goes in waves, right? | ||
| So outside of the ICE facility, it'll be a tailgate for a few hours. | ||
| Uh then federal vehicles come through, they come into the property, everyone starts freaking out, and that's when violence starts to break out. | ||
| Now, naturally things get more violent in the evenings, it gets a little bit more chaotic. | ||
| Federal agents come out, deploy tear gas to break up crowds and all that stuff. | ||
| So it goes in waves for sure. | ||
| But when it comes down to the National Guard and the need for the National Guard, um during my interviews, kind of one of the conclusions that that one of the things that appeared more obvious was that you do not need like 100 federal agents from what maybe they're ice agents or whatever they are. | ||
| You don't need those people there to do crowd control. | ||
| That's not their job. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And when when federal vehicles are coming through, you're not really supposed to have federal agents tied up there, like, you know, creating a barrier so people don't jump on somebody's hood when they're entering or leaving the facility. | ||
| And so to alleviate those people, they were saying, okay, you bring in National Guard to assist that stuff, right? | ||
| That's like kind of their job. | ||
| They sit there, they'll be able to direct traffic or whatever it may be Uh instead of federal agents doing that. | ||
| So it's I I think the use for them would be more of that instead of cracking down on the crowd outside. | ||
| But uh it would probably be a mixture. | ||
| I mean, I'm not I'm not exactly sure what they would end up doing if they were deployed and if they arrived at the Portland facility. | ||
| But certainly one thing for sure is you do not need a hundred federal agents inside the property 24, you know, hours a day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's that's what's so bizarre is when you see the videos, yeah, like the truck rolling through. | ||
| It's like just a motley crew of three-letter agencies that are around just trying to like ensure people don't throw themselves in front of the trucks. | ||
| Dude, yeah, they're like dealing with what they got, you know. | ||
| So uh and sometimes the crowd's more aggressive, sometimes they're not, right? | ||
| And so um, you know, I I'm sure you've seen the footage where it's you have people outside that I mean dude, I watched I watched some people full on shoving federal agents and the agents just putting up with it. | ||
| There's I think different agencies have a little bit less tolerance. | ||
| Uh you'll see ice will probably be quicker to make an arrest if somebody assaults them where other agents are gonna be like, okay, you know, letting the leftists blow blow off some steam. | ||
| Um, but yeah, I saw that chick yesterday that was full on shoving them, putting all of her weight into the federal agents, and it's just like I don't they're getting this confidence, I think, from dealing with Portland PD that lets them do everything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like it's essentially at the point where they could spit in the face of a Portland police officer and they're not gonna do anything. | ||
| And if they do anything, if they do do anything, it they'll be in jail in process, they'll be in there for one hour and release the next day. | ||
| And so I think that kind of confidence is moving over to federal agents uh and how they deal with federal agents, Antifa, these other groups. | ||
| Um, except for the consequences are potentially much more serious. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, I mean, we And I think that's actually breaking down a lot of you know how bold they are as well. | ||
| I think these there are you know, it's uh at times it'll be a smaller group of people. | ||
| I just I do think that them dealing with federal agents has calmed them down because they do know that the consequences are there when it comes to dealing with the you know federal government. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, because you you're seeing like you saw it in Mayanapolis where they throw around these federal agents and they kind of just take it on the chin because they don't really have it. | ||
| Seems like they just don't have the resources to make arrests like right then and there. | ||
| That seems to be the case. | ||
| And so I'm wondering in Portland if once if or when the National Guard arrives, then you'll really start to see them just sweeping through and not tolerating, you know, you look the wrong way, you'll get you'll get put in cuffs. | ||
| Um I mean, I don't know if if you've seen that, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I'm not exactly sure either. | ||
| I'm not exactly sure either. | ||
| Um, you know, I I just the main takeaway for sure is definitely allowing the federal agents to go out and actually do their jobs, which is not doing crowd control outside of an ice detention facility. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Yeah, it's the this is uh this is the importance of making I think Portland would be a good case to make an example out of because now we're seeing the same situation happening in Chicago. | ||
| Um you got a little bit of N DC, but DC was obviously different because it's a federal district, so they they could go all in right away. | ||
| Um but Portland, since they've just been so unruly for so long, this feels like this is where if you're the Trump administration to make an example out of a city um and and go for the full crackdown. | ||
| I mean, because you I mean you've been around the block for a while. | ||
| You you've seen Portland has been like this for a very long time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, it it and I I think that's what their goal. | ||
| It doesn't seem as though the administration's backing down when it comes to this. | ||
| You know, you can't just allow like leftist militants to take over blocks of cities and and uh and oh, you know, that's all we're gonna do. | ||
| We're gonna we're gonna allow for our cities to just be, you know, have some sort of like chaos governance in one of our you know major cities. | ||
| I don't think they're I don't think they're looking to uh allow that, and I don't think they should either. | ||
| And there's a lot of people, you know, a lot of the people that that agree with sending in the National Guard or maybe even maybe they even disagree with that, but they just want this freaking chaos to stop. | ||
| Feel bad for a lot of those people because there are a lot of those people in Portland or the surrounding areas, and uh, you know, hey, maybe they go into town for that storage facility next to the next next to the ice detention facility, or uh maybe their kids went to that elementary school. | ||
| I mean, these are taxpayers being affected, and I feel awful for those people. | ||
| So just for those people alone, uh they should 100% set an example. | ||
| Um the administration should should use this as as an opportunity to set an example for sure. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, because that's I think people don't think about a lot of people on the right have this tendency to kind of have this um, well, just let them have it, because they voted for this kind of mentality. | ||
| But um people always miss the fact that all these suburbs, I mean we're counting talking about the city proper, but then the metro area the metro is dependent on the city itself. | ||
| So like with New York City, okay, yeah, you let Zoran take over and he runs it in the ground and it's like, okay, well that's what they voted for. | ||
| It's like, yeah, but there's 33 million people in the area, many of which are Republicans who are dependent on that city. | ||
| So if that city goes down, the area goes down. | ||
| So it's Portland's the same thing. | ||
| I'm glad you hit on that. | ||
| It's like yeah a lot of people do depend on Portal. | ||
| It's such a such a bad mentality like oh yeah let's just slow surrender one of our major cities to a bunch of freaks. | ||
| Like no how how about actually we don't do that and uh you know we allow it just like it they give that that gives way too much power to people that you know obviously do not deserve it. | ||
| I mean it's just it's just ridiculous. | ||
| So uh especially that New York when people bring up that New York City example I think that's probably the most insane thing ever because yes those the you know that is our major city right when it comes to New York City. | ||
| And surrendering something like that has massive massive impacts. | ||
| But I think just even if even if Portland was a smaller town, it doesn't matter how big how small the city is uh you know you don't need to bend a knee to what are essentially domestic terrorists. | ||
| Yeah I mean with that I I kind of want to ask is you know Antifa probably knows that the hammer is coming down now they can see it in the air. | ||
| Um what are their goals over the next few days do you think is it just mass chaos are they still trying to intimidate conservative journalists or I mean like what is the what's the what's the game plan as far as you can tell for for Antifa. | ||
| I okay so I actually was asking a lot of them that question and because for you know they were talking to me which again I was surprised about and uh you don't get too much of a clear answer. | ||
| You know, I think a lot of them really enjoy this. | ||
| A lot of these people that are outside the ones that are camping especially they're homeless. | ||
| And that's that's how it's been for a long time in in places like Portland where you'll get the most aggressive act uh aggressive activists are living on the street. | ||
| And and uh so you know if you talk to them essentially they'll say oh well our goal is to run them out of town and we're gonna be here until they leave town. | ||
| Like okay you're not gonna you know they're not gonna stop ice from doing their jobs they're not gonna get them out of town it's not it's not gonna happen right um so the goals seem a little bit unrealistic obviously but um as for as for where I think if I think it's gonna build or if it's gonna dwindle I think their most aggressive activists have been receiving significant charges. | ||
| And you can only keep that up for so long. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like they're not dealing a lot of the ones that thought they were dealing with Portland police department uh they learned quickly that they're not and you're gonna run out of those militants and those activists. | ||
| And so I don't know if it's going to keep growing or if it's gonna kind of dwindle away but if I if I were to guess the drone administration doesn't appear to be backing down on this and uh you know maybe it'll make it to 200 days straight but we have keep in mind we have winter coming up and a lot of these people are fair weather protesters and activists. | ||
| And so that's gonna probably die out. | ||
| Maybe it picks up next year but I I think they'll probably start to run out of soldiers and people won't enjoy federal charges. | ||
| So uh yeah I I don't know if it's gonna be lasting it there's certainly their mission of getting the ICE detention facility out of town not going to be successful. | ||
| Yeah I mean it seems like a lot of them invoke the stop cop city movement in Atlanta um but all that resulted out of that was the state of Georgia just using legislation like a brand new slate of legislation to crack down on them for that. | ||
| And then this is obviously a different situation now with the feds in charge feds running the show obviously um I'm curious like yeah go ahead. | ||
| Oh I was gonna say too I mean like so much of it is also LARPing as well. | ||
| Like yes there are serious activists but dude so much of it's so much so much of it is just a LARP where uh you know you can tell when when they come out of the ICE facility after they've been processed and they're all getting clapped for they're like looking around you know they know they're getting like an eco post with all their with all their Antifa friends that are clapping and cheering for them and and um a lot of them. | ||
| I I don't know what's going on here, but there's like 20% of them are handicapped. | ||
| Uh except for when you look away, they'll like get out of the wheelchair and start walking around. | ||
| I I don't really know what's going on there. | ||
| Um, but I do know that when it comes down to it, you know, they're kind of like playing a game as well. | ||
| Uh the only again, the only unfortunate part for them is is the consequences when you're dealing with federal agents, is it's a different ball game. | ||
| And so they're definitely figuring that out. | ||
| But a lot of it is a live action role play where they feel like they're maybe playing uh I don't want to say dungeons and dragons because that's actually kind of cool. | ||
| Um but something something much more much weirder. | ||
| And um, yeah, it's it's uh they genuinely think though, for sure, um, that ice agents, you know, this is a Nazi administration. | ||
| Yeah, all the ice agents are Nazis, and uh I don't know if you saw my video, but Julio Rosas, he's an amazing reporter, a field reporter, and he was on the roof yesterday, and he he's sitting on the roof, casually, you know, reporting from the rooftop of the ice central facility, and he's sitting there with a jaridos. | ||
| This is like a you know, Mexican dude is sitting there many such cases. | ||
| Yeah, sitting there with a juridos, just chilling and watching all these people, and and you can see these people like not processing this. | ||
| They're just like, what's going on here? | ||
| You know, like they've been calling them Nazis and all that. | ||
| So I maybe maybe they don't process it. | ||
| I'm not exactly sure. | ||
| But he was just he was kind of chirping down saying, Hey, did you guys stop the deportations to all the activists? | ||
| And that was riling them up, you know. | ||
| You miss me. | ||
| It's it's it's kind of it's kind of such a joke, but at the same time, you know, like I said, there they're there do become moments where it gets more serious where they are assaulting um you know conservative journalists, they are taking over parts of of public property, they are running businesses out of town. | ||
| So, yes, while there's a whole part of it that's a joke and you control them, and that's funny. | ||
| There are serious consequences as well. | ||
| And uh, you know, Portland PDs certainly protecting them, but but not representing the the rest of the people that don't want a bunch of psychopaths taking over the street, you know, yeah, or an entire block. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, because yeah, you see the videos, they're like they're totally Marvel brained, like they view everything like uh like a Marvel movie where everything is just like clips and LARPs and that sort of thing. | ||
| But then on the flip side, it's also they have nothing to lose. | ||
| So you have those like two elements where it's like they think they're in a Marvel movie and they're LARPing and then they have nothing to lose, and they you know think they're fighting fascism or whatever. | ||
| So that recipe, you just get a bunch of unhinged people that are willing to do anything at any that are gonna snap at any moment, and that's like absolutely petrifying to see. | ||
| Dude, like the shortest views you've ever seen. | ||
| And that's where I I I honestly I was talking about this yesterday. | ||
| I think that they're pretty lucky that their opposition is so tolerant because um, you know, it's it's they're just the shortest fuse ever. | ||
| That's that video yesterday from last night of Nick Sorter walking through the encampment. | ||
| And and look, like actually that's that's what all the local news stations should be doing. | ||
| You that's that's journalism right there. | ||
| Hey, are they gonna snap like simply walk on a public sidewalk? | ||
| Is that gonna happen? | ||
| Okay, so that's what he did, and the entire situation erupted, right? | ||
| It just exploded. | ||
| And um, yeah, very short fuses. | ||
| But you touched on an interesting part, which is nothing to lose. | ||
| And that's actually this that that's one of the scary parts, right? | ||
| Because when you have people that have nothing to lose, they think that their opposition is literally Hitler and Nazis and all of that. | ||
| Um they believe the rhetoric, they wholeheartedly believe it to their core. | ||
| Um, except for at this at the same time, you know, you think if they really truly believed it, they would go even further. | ||
| But I guess we'll table that. | ||
| When it comes to them having nothing to lose, those are the people that are pretty dangerous because they'll they don't care what they do to you, they don't care if they really go to prison or anything. | ||
| And so you gotta watch out for those people for sure. | ||
| Yeah, and uh, you know, it's I think it's varying degrees of of militants, right? | ||
| And as I mentioned earlier, the ones that are certainly more aggressive and have been more violent, especially with like the police department over the last five years, right? | ||
| Those ones are finding out that you can't do that with federal agents. | ||
| Um, but there's also other ones that are you know homeless and uh like I mentioned, homeless and and uh one of the homeless guys was one of the guys getting in fights last night. | ||
| You know, they're they're like this mixture between homeless and radical and political, but they're like homeless by choice. | ||
| It's a very unusual mix. | ||
| Uh they're homeless because they're communists, is essentially what it is. | ||
| It's like that's like essentially what it is, you know. | ||
| They're like it's it's it's a LARP that's going so far that they are just playing the part of just saying, Oh, I'm living off my community you know um but those are the ones you gotta watch out for because yes they have nothing to lose and when you have nothing to lose you could be pretty pretty darn dangerous nothing to lose and fill with hate you know yeah yeah not a good combo I got one more I got one more question um I mean we're seeing in Chicago I don't know if you saw like literally two three hours ago Brandon Johnson was like the right is asking for a civil war this is like a repeat of | ||
| you know of of 19 or 1860 like these sorts of he was invoking some very very strong language basically blaming MAGA and saying they wanted to start a civil war um obviously Oregon's dealing with the same thing Alan always dealing with which is the federal government you know doing the job what how do you think this relationship between particularly Oregon but even Illinois with these state governments and the federal government which which direction you think this is going to go are they going to cry uncle or are they going to continue to fight this? | ||
| I mean what's the off ramp here? | ||
| Because right now it's a showdown. | ||
| For sure for sure I mean I think I think that goes back to your previous point of of there needs to be an example set because they can't all say you know if you give them an inch they're gonna take a mile right so you give Portland the victory then everybody else is going to follow suit. | ||
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| They'll back down. | ||
| Well, you know, when it comes down to it, no, it's okay to be conducting immigration, you know, enforcement within cities all across the United States. | ||
| It's absolutely okay. | ||
| And yeah, if you're going to have a riot outside of a detention facility every single day or every single weekend, it's absolutely okay to be sending National Guard to go make sure that our federal troops or federal agents, I mean, are protected and are able to do their jobs without, you know, getting murdered. | ||
| Like that just, that's okay to be doing. | ||
| And so I think, I think going back to my previous point of winter is coming up. | ||
| A lot of these people are fair weather protesters and rioters that'll probably die out. | ||
| Will it pick up? | ||
| And I don't know, you know, it's kind of hard to tell what the future holds. | ||
| One thing I will say for certain is the Trump administration is 100% not backing down. | ||
| They're taking this very seriously just from what I've seen, especially after Nick Sorter. | ||
| You know, apparently Trump was reaching out to Nick Sorter after him being assaulted. | ||
| Like, yeah, we're not going to put up with that. | ||
| You know, we're not going to put up with American journalists getting assaulted for simply doing their jobs. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just because these people, you know, can't handle somebody filming them and committing crimes. | ||
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| But, but as for what's going on in Chicago, I'm going to go over to Chicago probably this week to go check it out. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| And hopefully, hopefully like this weekend, we'll, we'll go over there to, to kind of see what's going on on the ground over there. | ||
| But I think across the board, a lot of these things go in waves where, Hey, there'll be mellow, a bunch of those violent people. | ||
| Maybe they committed a, maybe they, you know, committed a crime and they go away for a bit or, or they're getting slapped. | ||
| You know, they're slapping federal charges on these people, assaulting federal agents. | ||
| And I think after that, you know, after you start to see a little bit more of those charges, I think it probably will die down a little bit. | ||
| It's hard to see again, it's hard to say what's going to be coming in the future, but for the | ||
| the most part I think yeah again over in Chicago you get those psychos and after that after some of those people are made an example out of um you'll probably end up with left less brave individuals outside of these facilities protesting if I were to guess yeah man you know so this is gonna be a big week I mean with the rhetoric and then now with the actions the the court rulings on the National Guard appointments like this is going to be a crazy week so I mean where can where can people find you? | ||
| Or yeah, I mean, any final thoughts too? | ||
| I was just going to say, I mean, what we really do not want is we really do not want this rhetoric to continue where more ICE agents are being assaulted or even people are taking this into their own hands and trying to attack or murder federal agents. | ||
| That's where we do not want this to be going. | ||
| And so I'm hoping, I think most of us, right, are hoping that this is able to, you know, they're able to get those psychos off the streets. | ||
| that are actually out there rioting out front of these facilities get those people off the street before they do something more dangerous. | ||
| Yeah dude I mean that's that's what it is just we got to cool this down. | ||
| Sorry adults here enough um but yeah we're can we could be I mean they and you said you might be heading to Chicago where can people find you? | ||
| Yeah you guys uh check my work out you can do real James Klug that's K-L-U-G on X and uh James Klug on YouTube that's K-L-U-G youtube.com slash James Klug. | ||
| I'll be posting a video the next like couple days from Portland. | ||
| We got a lot of interesting interviews and all that, so definitely check it out. | ||
| Based well thank you, Patriot. |