The Culture War - Tim Pool - Trump Goes On OFFENSE With New Census, ICE SUPERCHARGES Deportation Effort ft. Owen Shroyer

Aug. 7, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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Trump Goes On OFFENSE With New Census, ICE SUPERCHARGES Deportation Effort ft. Owen Shroyer

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owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		And I hope the Republican Party puts forward a candidate to challenge him that is worthy because that should be the final straw.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		That should be the final straw for Texans to say, look, if Abbott can't get this easy victory, if Abbott can't score this layup, he's sitting under the basket with the ball and he can't score this layup, then it's time to find new leadership in Texas, which it really already is, but that should be the final straw.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		What's up?
		It's producer Tate here holding it down for Tim Poole.
		We got an interview here with Owen Schroer from InfoWars.
		We're talking all things deportation.
		Let's get to the interview.
		We were looking there saying that Texas, Florida obviously got kind of jipped out of a few seats up to the last election, mainly because of undercounting red states, overcounting blue states.
		Obviously, as well, there's a lot of illegals in Florida and Texas that people are saying, okay, well, maybe it's not going to be that big of a deal.
		But I don't know.
		I mean, the priority really is prioritizing Native Americans.
		We've been getting ripped off for a lot of years.
		People are getting frustrated with the low rate of deportations.
		Do you think that now with the big beautiful bill passing through or getting passed, do you think that we will see a ramping up in mass deportations?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		I think that the biggest, you know, the biggest marketing for them to get support for this bill was the funding and the operational stuff that they're trying to do as far as deportations were concerned.
		We're certainly seeing now, you know, a $50,000 signing bonus just to join ICE.
		And then they also got rid of an age requirement.
		So I don't really know too much about age requirements as far as these federal agencies are concerned, but apparently they got rid of that.
		So I guess you can sign up at any age as long as you have the qualifiers is what they're saying.
		I heard that Dean Kane, a former Superman actor, has decided to join the team.
		You know, they obviously ran into a problem.
		And I think as Trump supporters, you know, mass deportations, we understand there's a huge problem here.
		We have probably 30 to 50 million illegal aliens in this country.
		It's been that way for years.
		How do you deal with, how do you deal with something like that that's become so ingrained into our economy, into our workforce, so much to an extent that I even think there was a little bit of a mismeasurement by the Trump administration, no fault of their own, but they figured, hey, we can just start doing these deportations and everything, everything will kind of take care of itself.
		Well, what happened was, and I know a couple people that run factories, foremans at factories and stuff like that.
		And they started calling me and they're like, hey, they just raided our factory.
		A quarter of my workforce just disappeared.
		You know, we can't meet our production mandates.
		And these are, we're talking about, you know, stuff you go buy at the grocery store, soap products, whatever, you know, the big factories that we still have here.
		And so they called the White House and they said, look, President, Mr. President, here's the deal.
		We cannot meet our mandate on production after you've come in and raided our offices.
		I know agriculture was hit by this big time.
		And so the Trump administration came out, much to the chagrin of his supporters and said, hey, we got to look at amnesty.
		We got to look at prioritizing certain deportations.
		We got to figure out how to do this.
		So I understand why Trump's base got a little upset with that.
		I've been upset with Trump for other things.
		This is one where I felt like there was really not much of a choice.
		I mean, what are you going to do?
		You have to have production keep going.
		People have been here for decades, some of them.
		And so, yeah, it's a little tricky situation.
		I think, really, I think they're doing the best thing by deporting the violent criminals and then kind of working through the process of determining, okay, can we deport people that came in under Joe Biden, right?
		Can we just deport the people that came in in the last four years?
		And then what do we do with people that have been here for 10 years, even 20 years, that are essentially ingratiated into their local communities, into the workforce, though they're here illegally?
		Okay, how do we deal with that while following the law and keeping the production mandates going in the farms, in the factories where they work?
		So there's no doubt it's a problem.
		And I think that they're trying to do the best.
		Now, as far as the census is concerned, I can't even believe that this is a struggle.
		And, you know, this is just more of the corruption in politics.
		And we're seeing a lot of it now with the gerrymandering argument, too.
		And the truth is the Democrats have mastered gerrymandering.
		You may recall, Tate, that there was a story from Red State.
		I think it was four years Ago, it ultimately led to change of leadership at the GOP and Michael Watley and Lara Trump getting in positions of leadership because we found out while the Democrats were spending millions of dollars, in fact, the bulk of their expenditures were on voter data and the bulk of Republican Party expenditures were on novelty items and flowers and stuff like that.
		So this led to a change in leadership.
		Well, the point is that the Democrats spend money to determine where they need to gerrymander and they use race as the framework to say, oh, we have to pull votes from this district over here and we have to pull votes from this district over here.
		And essentially what they do is the red suburban areas around the blue metropolitan areas end up flipping blue because they siphon just a fraction of a percentage of enough votes out of the cities without costing them the blue vote in the city.
		They only need 51% to win, but then they flip three seats outside of the cities.
		We're very familiar with this in Texas.
		So to get back to the point with the census, I can't believe it's a struggle.
		It's only a struggle because politics is so corrupt.
		It's only a fight right now, specifically in Texas, because the Democrats know if they don't have these gerrymander districts, they can't win the House.
		It's been this way for decades.
		So Trump is absolutely right.
		They should have put the citizenship question on the last census, but they didn't.
		It might have cost them a few electoral college seats here and there in New York and Illinois and California.
		It ended up probably not making a difference in the presidential election, but who knows it could in the future.
		So absolutely, the census needs to be based and the Electoral College needs to be based on citizens only.
		And they really, Republicans and Democrats need to sit down.
		Let's put the partisanship aside and let's sit down, even if it's some arbitrary rules, whatever it is, school districts, road systems, whatever it is, we have to determine a system for drawing district lines that isn't just determined by party politics.
		So yeah, the Republicans are talking about redistricting in Texas.
		They'll flip three or four seats.
		They might do the same thing in South Carolina, we're hearing Florida.
		The Democrats will never win another house.
		They just will never do it if the Republicans properly redistrict these things.
		But that's why the Democrats are panicked.
		But really, really, the American people need to say, look, let's not make a political thing out of this.
	Let's find a set of rules and standards and let's draw district lines like this.
	So again, whether it's school systems, whether it's zip codes, whether it's population, whether it's highway systems, maybe some formula involving all of these things, but that's what needs to be done.
	Anybody who goes and looks at this stuff and the redistricting and these district lines, it's absurd.
	I live in Austin, Texas.
	I'm virtually in downtown Austin.
	I'm like a mile outside.
	I'm in the same district as southern San Antonio.
	Explain to me how that makes any sense.
	Why would my vote, why would my vote be in the same district as somebody that lives two hours away from me in southern suburban San Antonio?
	We're not even talking about downtown.
	I'm talking about southern suburbs.
	So it's totally absurd what they've done.
	The Republicans, I don't know, the Republicans in Texas are kind of as kind of as pathetic as the Republicans at the national level too, but there's definitely a fight to redistrict.
	I hope that they do it.
	And quite frankly, the Republicans might need it in order to save the House in the midterms.
unidentified		Yeah.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, you kind of touched on it, like, you know, coming together, you know, reallocate these districts, but there really is no appetite on the right, at least among the base right now, to come together with Democrats and figure out a solution.
		Rightfully so.
		We want revenge.
		We feel like we've really been shafted by Democrats over the last, well, decades.
		But the question is, does Abbott really know what time it is?
		I mean, that's kind of the question.
		You know, you see some movement every once in a while, but I mean, what's it going to take to get these Republican governors to really kind of match Trump's energy?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've had a problem with Abbott here in Texas for years.
		You know, I think he's a nice guy.
		I think he's a nice guy, but I don't think he's really built for the political fight.
		And we've seen it time and time again.
		He's certainly not a leader.
		He's very much a follower.
		And, you know, Texas got some credit during the COVID lockdown because we were pretty good.
		Texas was pretty good during the COVID lockdown compared to some other states, but really he was just following Florida's Lead, he wasn't going to make any moves until he saw DeSantis do it and then he followed.
		So I guess at least he's a good follower, but he's definitely not a leader.
		So really, that's kind of the story of Texas Republicans.
		Again, people would probably argue that's the story with congressional Republicans as well.
		And I think they'd be right.
		There's a representative here, Brian Harrison, who is really on top of this.
		He's really exposing Governor Abbott for the lack of action.
		He's really exposing the Texas Republicans for the lack of action.
		You know, the Democrats all left.
		They all essentially vacated their seats unofficially, vacated their seats to avoid these votes and all the decorum happening right now in the Texas House because they don't want the redistricting.
		And there's a dozen formulas right now that Brian Harrison and other lawyers and political scholars have laid out here via the Texas Constitution, where you can either bring them back, force them to come back, or you can basically nullify their vote, nullify their seat, and move forward with Texas House activities without them.
		And so far, Abbott has done none of it.
		He hasn't done a single thing.
		He's written some strongly worded letters, but the Democrats are still running around in Illinois bragging about how they're basically playing hookie, basically engaging in truancy.
		And Abbott does nothing about this.
		So unfortunately, we're kind of used to this down here in Texas.
		I would say this, though.
		If they can't get a victory, if Abbott can't get a victory on this redistricting, if he wants to let the Democrats get away with their tomfoolery, all right, fine enough.
		But if you can't get a victory on the redistricting here, that's going to be really sad.
		And I hope the Republican Party puts forward a candidate to challenge him that is worthy because that should be the final straw.
		That should be the final straw for Texans to say, look, if Abbott can't get this easy victory, if Abbott can't score this layup, he's sitting under the basket with the ball and he can't score this layup, then it's time to find new leadership in Texas, which it really already is, but that should be the final straw.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, you're even seeing it like with Paxton, this should be a slam dunk.
		He's running against Cornyn.
		And obviously, Cornyn's going to be upset about anything to the right of Jeb Bush.
		So the fact that, I mean, the fact that Paxton hasn't just ran and spiked the football yet is absolutely mind-blowing.
		And obviously, he could carry Abbott along with him.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Well, I will say if anybody's going to do anything, it's going to be Paxton.
		And he has made some pretty strong moves.
		I think that he might be considering maybe getting Democrat votes against Cornyn.
		That's the only thing I could think of.
		But I would say he's definitely got the motivation factors here to make some moves, considering he is running against Cornyn.
		He's going to trounce Cornyn.
		I don't think that's really going to end up mattering.
		In fact, Jasmine Crockett, I don't know if you saw this, Jasmine Crockett went on MSNBC and said that Cornyn is actually working with the Democrats to avoid the redistricting.
		So that should be the nail in his political coffin.
		And I imagine that when we get closer to the election, that Trump will probably even endorse Ken Paxton.
		And there's a lot going on with Ken Paxton's offices behind the scenes, a lot of good stuff that he's engaged in.
		But I just think, you know, Texas, maybe this is me just saying this as a Texan here, but I would like to see Texas start to lead the way.
		We've seen Florida lead the way on a lot of things.
		We've seen Florida kind of lead the way as far as the states when it comes to Republican action at the state level and then kind of creating a momentum, kind of creating a trend here.
		I'd like to see Texas become that state again.
		I really would.
		And this is the perfect opportunity to kind of make that claim again.
		And that's to say, hey, look, we're redistricting.
		Here's why.
		You're going to see the results.
		And by the way, to other Republican states, if you do a similar formula here, you're going to realize the Democrats have stolen about two to three seats, maybe more in some of these states when it comes to congressional seating.
		And so I think it is a big issue.
		It's sad to see that Abbott has gone so soft on this as far as the action.
		Tough on talk, soft on action.
		That's going to be Abbott's legacy.
		But I'd like to see Texas take a leadership role here.
		But again, the reason why I'm saying I'd like to see the left and the right come together on this issue, because we're already seeing Gavin Newsom come out and say, okay, if you redistrict and you flip seats, then we're going to redistrict and we're going to flip seats.
		Now, I will say the only issue I think Newsom might have with that is they've already done it.
		I really don't know what else.
		I really don't know what other gerrymandering that they can do to flip seats in Congress.
		I mean, they've already done it.
		I've gotten really down into the weeds on this and into the numbers.
		And I would say on a low scale, the Democrats steal 12 seats every election cycle via gerrymandering.
		And on a high scale, 24.
		So you're from 12 to 24 seats that the Democrats steal via gerrymandering with some of these redistricting efforts where they siphon votes from the inner cities into the red areas.
		And so I would just come out and say, look, this is how the Democrats have done it.
		We're going to stop them from doing that.
		We want fair redistricting.
		We want districts that actually make sense and don't look like a puzzle piece that you've never seen before.
		And maybe the rest of the country will follow.
		And I wouldn't take the Democrats' threats too seriously because they've already done it.
		They've already done the gerrymandering.
		So there's really nothing more that they can do at this point.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I mean, like, that's kind of what we were talking about is the Republican base really wants to go hard in the paint.
		As far as kind of more at the national scale of the illegal immigration situation, you did mention earlier some of the difficulties with removing illegals and mass scale.
		Obviously, it looks like some of the economic impacts and that sort of thing.
		What tools do you think Trump and co still have at their disposal for self-deportation to ratchet up the pressure on illegal immigrants to get them to basically leave voluntarily?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, we've kind of seen what we think are the good results of that.
		I don't know.
		I haven't really seen, I mean, we've seen some numbers that they throw out there.
		I don't really know if these are official numbers or how they're getting these numbers, but we've seen some numbers kind of thrown out there that these are the deportations that are happening.
		You know, some of the things that I think that they've either suggested or put into practice was if you self-deport, we can find a path to citizenship for you.
		If you don't and we have to come find you and deport you, then you're never going to become a citizen.
		I think that that's not only fair, but I think it's just.
		They've also, and this is just, you know, they're just crunching the numbers on this, and it sounds kind of bad, but they crunched the numbers and they've said, we'll pay you.
		We'll pay you to self-deport.
		So I understand why Americans would see that and say, you know, what the hell?
		Why are we paying people to self-deport?
		But they've crunched the numbers and they said, well, we can run an ICE operation and it's going to cost us X amount of dollars versus it's going to cost us Y amount of dollars if we just pay them to self-deport.
		So they've crunched the numbers and they've decided that that was more financially responsible, even though it sounds kind of counterintuitive, you know, considering the circumstances.
		So that's done.
		You know, I think, though, the biggest factor here that has had the best result was just shut down the border and cut off the welfare.
		You know, I mean, that's been the biggest factor here.
		They closed the border.
		They shut off the welfare.
		And guess what?
		Nobody's coming anymore.
		They're having zeros.
		They're literally having zeros on the board for the first time in like ever when it comes to illegal border crossings.
		I don't know how much you study the Darien Gap, but the Darien Gap when it comes to the illegal immigrant train that goes through Central America, that was kind of the hotbed of, okay, you kind of come from all over the world.
		You end up in the Darien Gap.
		There's a big UN operation there.
		And then they kind of, you know, herd you in, and then you decide how you're going to get to the states.
		Nobody's going through the Darien Gap anymore.
		That's now silent.
		Some of the makeshift facilities that they built there are empty.
		So effectively, they have closed the border and they've done a good job just off of policy alone.
		So now when you start getting into the area of deportations, it's going to be messy.
		There's going to be ugly scenes.
		Obviously, the Democrats are going to do everything they can with their street protesters to try to disrupt these things.
		But I think they are doing a pretty good job there.
		We are seeing a good result.
		Now you've kind of got to find a way to deliver the results and the messages to the American people to say, hey, look, here's who we're prioritizing.
		Here's who we're getting rid of.
		You know, we went to these farms.
		We went to these factories.
		We were about to deport a bunch of people, but we were told that they couldn't meet production standards.
		So it's not a good thing for our economy to kind of kneecap ourselves like that.
		So we're going to keep them here.
		We're going to think about some sort of a workers' program.
		We're not going to give them citizenship.
		We're not going to give them amnesty, but we do need to look at some worker programs.
		And it will upset some right-wingers, there's no doubt.
		But I think that That's what they have to do.
		So, the important thing was shutting down the border.
		They've done that.
		The important thing was deporting the violent criminals.
		They are in the process of doing that.
		And the rest of it's going to get a little hairy.
		But overall, I would say that's a success that the Trump administration has had, undeniably.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
		Yeah, it definitely feels like the atmosphere has changed.
		It's a much more, and this isn't necessarily a bad thing, but a hostile atmosphere.
		And a lot of people are feeling the heat and it saves ICE a lot of money and time.
		One other thing is I've talked a lot in the last few shows that I've filled in on is young men really spiraling, right?
		A lot of young men kind of have this feeling that we're circling the drain to some degree.
		What do you think it does for a young guy when they see an opportunity like ICE is presenting as like the next great way to contribute to your nation?
		I mean, there has to be something said about that, right?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		You know, that's an interesting prospect.
		It sometimes is hard.
		I don't know.
		I don't know how old you are.
		I'm 36 and cultures are different.
		I'm sorry?
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		24.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		24.
		Okay.
		So you might have a better idea of where that culture is at because when I was growing up, it was like I couldn't get a job soon enough.
		I was trying to get a job.
		I've been working since I was 14 years old.
		I mean, maybe even before that, just trying to pick up babysitting gigs just because I like to be as independent as possible, even if it was like at 13 or 14 years old, walking to a local store to buy a soda and a candy bar.
		I just, I always wanted to do that.
		So I don't know if that still exists in the younger culture.
		I feel like it's kind of dying to an extent and people don't want to work.
		But there's no doubt in an economy that is not good for young people right now.
		There's no doubt there's a reason why young people are feeling disenfranchised.
		And mostly on the left, maybe a little bit on the right, they're feeling like America has abandoned them.
		You know, this is why liberals vote communist because they don't believe in America anymore.
		They think America has abandoned them.
		And we can disagree with that idea.
		And yet we still have to recognize that these are Americans.
		They have opinions and they have votes.
		So we have to understand where they're coming from.
		So if you want a good paying job, it sounds like you got one.
		It sounds like ICE is saying, hey, come work for us.
		$50,000 bonus.
		Hell, go work for a year.
		Stack some cash, live in a cheap apartment, and quit and then decide if you want to go do something else.
		I also saw that Janine Pirro, and this is more of a niche offering, but Janine Pirro came out and said she's looking for like 100 lawyers to hire inside the Department of Justice.
		She's looking for 100 state prosecutors right now, which as somebody that doesn't like big government, I hear that and I'm kind of like nauseous.
		I'm like, oh, great, you know, that's what we need is more federal prosecutors.
		But as somebody, unfortunately, as somebody who knows the federal prosecution process all too well, because I've been through it, it is a mess.
		I mean, it's a total mess.
		And most of the prosecutors that are in there, I don't think they're bad people.
		They're in a bad system.
		You need to kind of reset the ideology.
		And if you bring in 100 people with a new ideology, maybe you can kind of even engage in a double offense there to change the mindset inside the Department of Justice prosecutors, but also fill these vacancies.
		You catch some federal charges in D.C., man.
		You're in the court system four or five years.
		And if you're sitting in a probationary circumstance, you're dealing with a lot of your rights being violated and you're dealing with a lot of your rights being suspended while you're sitting here just waiting for action from the federal system that can take years.
		You could even argue it's unconstitutional because you're not getting a speedy trial.
		Now, what usually ends up happening is the feds will kind of make you an offer of whether it's kind of a nice to easy probation or stay out of jail, whatever it is, if you waive your rights to a speedy trial.
		But this is like, this is like this is like common.
		This is common and it shouldn't be that way.
		Nearly every case gets this, where they're saying, hey, will you waive your right to a speedy trial for X, Y, or Z benefit to your case?
		And most people say yes because it looks good on paper.
		So there's definitely opportunities for work.
		And I'm not somebody that promotes big government.
		I'm not somebody that promotes government work at all.
		If anything, I probably despise it.
		But I do think that if you are a younger American and you're maybe searching For a purpose or just searching for a job that you maybe feel like you can pay off some student loans or something like that.
		It does sound like there's some opportunities there.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, I agree.
		I think it's the new way to give back, especially a lot of people have concerns with the military.
		It's like, hey, this is a put yourself in the history books.
		Well, Owen, we got a wrap here.
		Where can people find you?
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Find me on X. Most of my stuff you'll find on X at Owensroyer1776.
		I'm on rumble, rumble.com/slash Owen.
		And then you can find my show every day, owenschroyer.show.
		And then I've got a homepage, owenschoyer.store, where I just have everything listed there in the front.
		And if you're lucky, you can come out here and find me at the pool and hang out with me at the pool too.
		That's the best place to find me.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		Let's go.
		Well, dude, I appreciate it, man.
		Thank you so much.
		Have a good one.
owen shroyer ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nice to see you, man.
unidentified		Yep.
tate brown ▲ ● ▼		See ya.
		All righty.
		Well, that was Owen Schroyer.
		He was a patriot, absolute patriot.
		Thanks for that, Owen.
		Yeah, so I totally agree.
		I do think the ICE officer gig is the new, like, this is the way to etch yourself in the history book.
		If you're a young guy, early 20s, maybe late teens, and you're kind of trying to figure out what do I do?
		I want to, you know, leave a mark on this world.
		What's better than being part of the Reconquista, right, of the United States?
		I think it's a beautiful thing.
		I think it's something worth considering.
		And the benefits are actually pretty fire.
		Like, this ain't your mama's government job.
		So, yeah, I appreciate you guys for hanging out.
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