The Culture War - Tim Pool - Texas Rep Calls For ARREST Of Democrats Who Fled, Possible BRIBERY CHARGES ft. Briscoe Cain

Aug. 6, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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Texas Rep Calls For ARREST Of Democrats Who Fled, Possible BRIBERY CHARGES ft. Briscoe Cain

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briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Pritzker is, of course, talking out his rear end, trying to claim this violates the Constitution.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Those things are left to the states, as you may know, and it's perfectly fine for us to do so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We have this story from The Guardian.
		Texas Senator asks FBI to help locate and arrest Democrats for leaving the state.
		John Cornyn ramps up gerrymandering showdown between lawmakers and Trump administration seeking GOP seats.
		You got to hand it to Texas.
		They tend to be the ones getting the ball rolling.
		You got Ken Paxton.
		You got Abbott.
		They're doing all right.
		Now, many people have complained about the actions Abbott has taken in the past, saying that he's largely still just helping Democrats, maybe.
		But it does seem like on cultural issues, we got Missouri and we got Texas.
		Now, right now, the battle is raging on.
		Donald Trump has said maybe the FBI does need to get involved when asked about John Cornyn's call.
		Send in the feds to force these people back.
		But this is a state issue.
		It is a state issue.
		Now, the question is, do these Democrats who have fled Texas have the right to break quorum?
		For those that miss the story, the quick gist is this.
		The Republicans want to redistrict.
		Such a new redistricting could swing the state or could swing the Congress for Republicans by five seats.
		The new map would eliminate certain Democrat seats and create weight for Republicans in those districts.
		This would give Trump a massive advantage.
		The story is that Trump personally called and said, do the redistricting now.
		I need those seats for 2026.
		Democrats have said this is unconstitutional and that you're breaking the rules.
		It's not unconstitutional.
		not violating the law.
		It's just underwriting It is extremely rare that a redistricting happens mid-census.
		Like this, we're between two censuses.
		Sensi, whatever.
		And so they're saying it's unjust.
		Well, let's do this.
		I am going to bring in a rep from Texas, Briscoe Caine, who's going to break down for us exactly what's going on and the rules and their plans.
		Let me load this interview right now and get that show going.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
		Loading it up.
		Looks like we're good.
		Let's hit it.
		All right.
		It looks like good sir.
		Can you hear me?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I can.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		How's it going, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's going pretty well.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you're a rep in the Texas House?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I am.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to give a quick introduction to who you are and your district and what you do?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I've served five terms at the Texas House.
		I'm the chairman of the Texas House Freedom Caucus and represent a lot of the port of Houston, which some people may not be familiar with.
		But we produce close to 90 percent of the jet fuel for the country.
		It's considered the largest manufacturing complex on earth.
unidentified		Wow.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me just – It's a good thing.
		I'm going to jump straight to it.
		Should these Democrats who have fled your your state be arrested for breaking quorum and fleeing Yeah, absolutely.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Sooner than later, I'm a little irritated at leadership kind of dragging their feet and not doing it yet, right?
		They've given them till Friday.
		It's nonsense.
		Arrest them, bring them in because we only need we only need six tim you need six hundred yeah we just need six more because we have 88 republicans so we need 12 democrats six are here and uh you know we discussed that right i don't know if you'll it may help the audience to understand that uh we're one of four states there were originally more than that that have a two-thirds quorum requirement that's two-thirds of the elected right so we we have to have a hundred to do business,
		you know, and it needs, the constitution needs to be amended, but to do so, we need 100.
		And the odds of any Democrats ever voting with us to do that is pretty low, but the purpose, the historical purpose of it, right, was our days of horseback and walking, you know, and so if some state legislature was going to convene on a certain day, obviously you had to kind of wait, right?
		You couldn't plan your trip, you know, like seven, eight days to the capital or something like that, right?
		Those days are gone.
		And I wish we would have listened to Madison, or at least it's said that Madison wrote, I believe it's Federalist 58, actually, where he points out like, this is a bad idea.
		It will cause this folly.
		It will allow the minority to take over.
		And it was a bit of an oversight because if you take it to its extreme, does that mean they could just literally not show up on day one of a session and kill two years is the only thing is for them to face voters is that the only punishment of course not that that's ludicrous to think so let me let me ask you there were civil arrest warrants that were issued and so so it's it's a confusing thing because how could you arrest someone on a civil violation?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are there any long-term penalties beyond fines for these civil arrest warrants?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly.
		And there could be.
		So there's civil because, right, the Speaker of the House is not like a criminal magistrate, but they're legitimate arrest warrants.
		And it goes through the sergeant-at-arms.
		And then, thanks to the governor, is tasked GPS with assisting.
		And that includes the Texas Rangers.
		And sadly, though, the speaker kind of gave them until Friday.
		Look, I know of three that are in Houston right now that never left.
		Now, granted, it might look bad.
		These are some of our older folks.
		And, you know, these could probably make a heyday off of claiming that you arrested grandma.
		But grandma's not doing her job.
		And she should have none of the benefits of seniority or their extra money.
		We need to go after all of it.
		There's also things that look like bribery.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does.
		I mean, my understanding is that some of these members have been fundraising.
		There have been efforts to raise money on their behalf for this effort.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Exactly, man.
		I don't know if you want to, I can read you the statute if you're interested.
		Yeah, yeah, we're going to have time, but it's section 3602 of the Texas Penal Code.
		Look over there.
		It says, person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly offers, confers, or agrees to confer another, solicits, accepts.
		or agrees to accept from another person any benefit as consideration for the recipient's decision, opinion, recommendation, vote, or other exercise of discretion as a public servant, party official or voter.
unidentified		Some of this sounds like it might be on point, man.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So have there been fundraising efforts from these Democrats in this area?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, certainly so.
		In fact, I think recently Jasmine Crockett kind of got caught mentioning doing exactly that.
		Not just fundraising, but helping to fund their lifestyle, to fund them there.
		They funded the private jet.
		to help them leave, right?
		In exchange for their discretion not to be there, they got on private jets.
		And so that has to be reported.
		I can't fly on a private jet without having to report that on my ethics expenditure okay um these are serious problems so and the fines the fines are cool i mean we we get paid you know a handsome 700 a month um for for it enough for a private jet 500 a day plus the the cost of of having to go get them wow so this is uh this is a weird thing to me uh any job on the planet If you are called in by your boss for what is part of your job,
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		part of your contract, and you go, nah, I'm hopping a private jet and leaving and I won't be back.
		That's called quitting.
		So how is it that they have not vacated their seat by their own admission by saying we will not be present.
		I mean, they've publicly admitted this is what they're doing and why.
		Shouldn't that be statement enough to say we have vacated our seats?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think so.
		Of course, it's going to be left to the courts and they're going to have to struggle with where's the line, right?
		We gave an extreme example earlier, like you could not show up for two years and literally prevent the legislature from doing anything.
		Well, that'd be weird if the only repercussion was the voters.
		It doesn't make sense.
		So where is it?
		Do you have to express some intent to return?
		Right now, they've got no present intent to come back, right?
		If you're like, hey, I'll be back in a few days, you go, okay, they haven't abandoned it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Right now, they're like, we're never coming back back, you know, screw you guys.
		It sounds like abandonment, right?
		And so not only should they face, you know, the repercussions from the voters at the ballot box, which the past two times, which is 2004, they broke corn.
		They ran off to Oklahoma and New Mexico.
		That was a redistricting year.
		When we came back, the Republican majority grew.
		After 2021, when they broke corn, they went off to D.C. They were then nicknamed the Miller D's.
		That's because they had a 24-pack of Miller Light there on the bus with them.
		They were leaving.
		And I remember this one well.
		That was actually my bill.
		I was the chairman of elections and that was my bill when they they walked off the floor um that day we grew the republican majority after that as well and some of them lost their seats and we still did it anyways and i think this time it's going to be even worse anybody's paying attention to texas politics may know that right our speaker um was elected with a majority of the minority party.
		And so there's been a coalition speakership.
		And what they're doing now, I believe, is actually uniting the moderates and the conservatives in the House against them.
		And I think they've committed political suicide.
		They don't realize it.
		Because no longer, for a while, it was theory, rumor, that in order for them to say, you know, the speakers might be offering things, right?
		Taking certain things off the table.
		I mean there's literally no reason for leadership to give them absolutely anything.
		We should shove it all down their throat when we get them back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So on this bribery point, do you believe based on what you've seen so far that there should be criminal charges for bribery?
unidentified		There should at least be a grand jury investigation.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Seems reasonable.
		I can't speak to whether they've definitely done it.
		It's not my area of law.
		I mean the plain reading of it kind of smells bad and looks wrong and someone needs to investigate.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, especially.
		Well, let me ask you now about the redistricting effort itself.
		The argument that's being made by Democrats, you know, governor.
		Governor JB Pritzker went on Colbert and said, Trump called Texas and said, I need five seats.
		It is exceedingly rare to have a redistricting in the middle of a decade before the census comes in and that this violates the Voting Rights Act and the Constitution.
		So the first question is, why are you guys redistricting right now?
		And what do you have to say about Pritzker's comments?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, Pritzker is, of course, talking out his rear end, trying to claim this violates the Constitution.
		Those things are left to the states, as you may know.
		And it's perfectly fine for us to do so.
		In fact, there's a case out of Galveston, Galveston County, you know, that's the island down here on our coast that allowed them to do a similar thing based on their on their redistricting.
		And so for some time now, we realized we could do that and it was an opportunity.
		But also we the states change.
		not just because of the open border policies but somewhat our good policies we're attracting people from those states and they're fleeing and so to adjust for those demographics and that change it would only make sense that we adjust our seats because we have a one man one vote rule and through an interpretation of some federal case law the seats must be almost perfectly identical.
		We're meeting 766,987 people, plus one or minus one, right?
		So you've got to get perfect.
		And obviously, there needed to be an adjustment over the last five years from the, you know, 13 plus million illegals who've come, because, all right, it's not based on voters.
		It's based on population.
		At least that's the current interpretation of things.
		And look, I think we're here to correct.
		unconstitutional gerrymandering and to correct those things to ensure fair representation.
		That's the idea.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But what triggered this?
		Was it really, you know, Donald Trump calling and saying, what can we do in Texas?
		Or is this on something that you guys have been planning?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I can't answer that.
		Because you don't know or you'll get in trouble.
		This is going to be heavily, heavily litigated.
		I can just say that I had been talking about it for over a year with some other folks that we were allowed to at least because of this Galveston County case.
		Now, it doesn't mean they did it in response to me, but people were aware of the opportunity.
		Absolutely.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what do you mean by opportunity?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That sounds like it's political.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
unidentified		Okay.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		The opportunity to fix wrongs.
		It's an opportunity to fix wrongs, right?
		It's to fix racial gerrymandering.
		It's to fix the VRA and the requirements of it.
		Really, when you get to the heart of it, it's racist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So explain that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I remember redistricting in 2021 when I was first running for state rep. There's a Friedman's town, an old Friedman's town in my district.
		Or actually, it's not in my district.
		It's carved out.
		You're going up the line.
		All of a sudden, this box comes over and it goes up.
		And I remember being really excited that I could go and talk with these people And then I realized they're not in the district.
		And I remember going, well, that looks like racial gerrymandering.
		They're carved out.
		Why?
		Federal law requires.
		law required them to be with their own people.
unidentified		Wow.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		It would have been illegal to put them in my district.
		And that's offensive.
		But that's what the VRA was requiring, right?
		And so this is an opportunity to correct some of those wrongs that to allow for fair representation and to allow people to have, they call them communities of interest.
		Well, why not communities?
		Why not entire cities as opposed to some, this special class?
		it doesn't make sense.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And is that something that, you know, I don't know if you would know this because you're in Texas, was that affecting all states since it's a federal law?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You'll quote me on this one.
		There are still some states, generally in the South, that are under certain kind of these pre-clearance rules and stuff.
		And I'm not an expert on that, but it applies to some of us and not others.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was funny because I've been hearing a lot of statements from Democrats where they keep saying majority minority districts.
		And I'm thinking about it.
		What does that mean?
		It's like they're acting like there are two races, white and not white.
		Right.
		So you say majority.
		What was it?
		Majority minority.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Like, yeah, or you'll hear the word minority coalition as if they own all people who aren't the same.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Right.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And you hear it in their interviews are like black and brown.
unidentified		Like, it's so terrible.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And I know, thank God, at least our generation or at least people with moral clarity or intellectual honesty recognize that that's nonsense and it does nothing but harm and divide.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So, I mean, what are people in these areas saying?
		What I've heard is that there are districts that are Hispanic.
		that voted for Trump, voted for Republicans, but are being forced through this racial gerrymandering to be in districts where they'll never have their voices heard and it's going to go Democrat.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, bingo.
		I can think of a district, a house district next to me.
		It's House District 144.
		um we sadly republicans failed to put a candidate on the ballot and trump won it like 53 wow it's a vastly majority hispanic area um wow and he's still winning because conservativism speaks to them right for their opportunities and family values and just wanting government to get out of their lives but you you guys didn't have a republican that's why it's a winning message you guys didn't have a candidate for the house on the ballot in that district no so it just default democrat Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		And man, that's what I'm complaining about.
		One of those seats, that seat would now be in what was Congressional District 9, at least proposed.
		That's why Al Green is freaking out, realizing he's about to be out.
		of Congress.
		And that area that's currently represented by Democrat state rep, the numbers say that's not it.
		You don't own those people.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, Al Green shouldn't be in Congress as far as I'm concerned.
		When he wiggled his cane screaming at Trump during the State of the Union, the House tried to censure him and Democrats.
		swelled up in the well singing songs obstructing the censure of this guy and and it was only a censure it is remarkable to me that over the past decade plus democrats have repeatedly across this country either at the state level the federal level even city level, violated the law, broken the rules, but then act like it's an affront to them when Republicans say, oh, hey, look, this is legal and we can do this.
		They then accuse you of breaking the law.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
		I've seen you've been covering that, right?
		Showing the maps and things.
		You know, it's funny the states they flew off to.
		They're probably all around.
		But right, you went to Boston, Massachusetts, zero.
		Republican congressional seats, even though I think Republicans performed 40% there.
unidentified		Wow.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And they went to Illinois.
		Look at those.
		Yep.
		Republicans perform better there on the presidential election, but they gerrymandered the heck out of those things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Illinois 44% Republican as a state with three of 17 seats being Republican.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Bingo.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You get it.
unidentified		Yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		And when you look at our proposed map, they're much more concentrated.
		You don't see these crazy spider-like things.
		And I remind you, they're going to look weird, right?
		As I just mentioned, based on the population requirements that they be equal, people don't live in equal little squares.
		Right.
		So you're going to have drawings that look funny.
		Just FYI, I know every time somebody thinks something doesn't look like a square, it must be quote unquote gerrymandering.
		But there's, that's a legal term.
		Gerrymandering is illegal.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we covered this back in 21 or whenever the last redistricting was because there was one district.
		I can't remember where it was.
		I think it's like in the Houston area or something.
		And it's like a weird U shape.
		And a lot of people were saying that's gerrymandering and gerrymandering is bad.
		But when you actually broke it down, it's because some of the areas that are covered, nobody lives in and has nothing to do with that community.
		So people assume that because the maps are drawn weird shapes, it means gerrymandering.
		No, gerrymandering is Illinois.
		East St. Louis stretches the in this long strip up to urbana for the express purpose of combining two liberal cities and then everything in between which is rural has no voice.
		And so these people in Texas, these Texas dems, they fly there.
		there and Pritzker had the nerve to go on Colbert and say one it was as a joke it was drawn up by kindergartners as if to downplay the fact that they've intentionally stolen seats for Republicans but then he has the nerve to say we will gerrymander more here's the funny thing they can't they literally could not do more than they've already done in a bunch of these states They could squeeze nothing left.
unidentified		Yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Blood from a turnout.
		So do you think Abbott is prepared to call more sessions over and over and over again to get this job done?
		Or do you think Democrats might win this one?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely.
		They're not going to win this one.
		And they lose every time afterwards.
		And I'm thankful for the governor standing up for the fight and being creative.
		You know, filing his petition to have the Supreme Court declare Gene Wu's seat vacant.
		Gene Wu's a Republican, not a Republican, a Democrat from Houston.
		He's actually the chairman of the House Democrat caucus.
		And, you know, will it work?
		I don't know.
		So it's kind of like how Trump just is like, I got an idea.
		Let's go for it.
		You know, give it your best shot.
		He's always counted out.
		And so it's a good thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He did declare that vacant?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's filed a writ with the Texas Supreme Court seeking it to be declared vacant.
		And the Attorney General's also a few hours later filed a case.
		And that was yesterday.
unidentified		Let's go.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		But how do you think...
		It's like if you didn't give a letter of resignation when you left the job, but you didn't show up to work for a week and no call, no show, they're kind of like, I think that guy quit.
		That's these circumstances, right?
		It's like, I have a feeling they quit.
		They're not planning to come back.
		I think we should go ahead and, you know, declare their seat vacant, order a special election, which, by the way, could be a great opportunity for Republicans.
		Maybe flilip some seats for a little bit well what do you think the supreme court of texas leans are that you think they're going to go republican or what i i don't know what they'll do i i hope they will i hope they'll follow the law yeah i i of course i would like for them to to side with me politically but um not the expense of the integrity of the institution um that's that's far more important right that's the thing that i think separates us from the left is that process,
		right, matters, that law matters, that we still have that moral high ground.
		But I'm hopeful.
		And I'm actually in talks with a few of my colleagues on whether we're going to do some amicus letters and things advocating for it or explaining kind of the reasons, especially some of the historical context of why that quorum requirement's there.
		Because the Democrats are arguing like this is a legitimate procedure.
		It's not legitimate at all.
		It's pure obstructionism.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm sick of the politicking across the board, across the country.
		The purpose of the quorum, you already mentioned it, but back in the day when you're walking, the idea was, hey, If people aren't here, we don't want the minority rushing in and then passing bills against the will of the voters in the state.
		The quorum rule is basically to be fair, but it's being exploited by people who've lost the elections.
		That's it.
		Elections have consequences.
		So the politics is, here's my concern is the judges are going to be not weighing the law or the practical reality, but they'll be weighing the implications politically.
		And that's what we see over and over and over again way too often.
		It's simple.
		If you were judging this honestly, you'd say.
		The quorum rule is not to be exploited to shut down Congress.
		You have every opportunity to be at your session and do your job that you agreed to do.
		And if you've chosen not to be there, there's some leeway.
		But after a few days, you have quit.
		You are no longer working that job.
		Vacated.
		Done with it.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You know, I see, I would say in Texas, our judges are elected statewide.
		So they stand for election and they're not strangers to political pressures or name calling.
		And what I'm going to say is I think our state judges, at least elected judges, kind of tend to stand up to political pressure a little better than the federal appointed guys, right?
		Who grew up in this bubble, never been name called before, never had anybody yell at them or send mail or put up billboards.
		Those dudes tend to kind of back down a lot easier than some of the elected ones.
		And so I think they'll do the right thing.
		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I hope so.
		I mean, one thing we've seen over the past decade plus is the left has been particularly good at organizing pressure campaigns.
		So the real question for a lot of these elected officials and just judges in general.
		I mean, with all due respect to the Supreme Court, I think they've done pretty well recently, but you look at Amy Coney Barrett's rulings after someone threatened to, someone actually tried to kill Brett Kavanaugh, they bend.
		They bend.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely no doubt that federal judges do that.
		100%.
		I've talked with somebody that do federal practice and they've discussed that exact thing.
		that one there needs to be a defense to it um two why aren't we doing that the same thing to those guys so at least their people um if it works at least if it's bad but uh yep you're right i'll put it as way you know you we had that famous court case, Texas v.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pennsylvania back in 2021.
		I think end of 2020, 2021 over the election.
		Texas as a state arguing that other states violated the constitution by altering the rules of federal elections without going through their state legislatures.
		And the Supreme Court, except for Alito and Thomas, said, nah, we're not even going to hear the argument, which is cowardice.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I mean, drove me nuts.
		I was in Pennsylvania during after the election.
		And the case, it was the Mike Kelly lawsuit.
		So actually five Texans and two New Yorkers that came up with the idea and we pitched it and then eventually, you know, the big boys kind of stepped in.
		And it was that exact point that you can't alter these things.
		In fact, what was fascinating is Pennsylvania's constitution set forth when you could do mail and ballot.
		Yep.
		And so they passed the thing to amend that constitution.
		Now, in Pennsylvania, in order to amend the constitution, the resolution to do so has to pass in two consecutive sessions.
		So they hadn't done it yet.
		Like it hadn't even gone to the voters, yet they still did it.
		And the Supreme Court totally dumped it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, yep.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You weren't allowed to do that, man.
		Now, I don't know if the relief was viable, right?
		It was asked to toss the whole thing out.
		That may not be realistic, but they could at least say, hey, what y'all did was unconstitutional.
		Adam Minimum just pointed out you weren't allowed to do that.
		That would have been great.
		Instead, they were cowards.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's my concern across the board, right?
		I talked to a state prosecutor in West Virginia and a previous AG who's now governor.
		And I said, why aren't we seeing red states?
		do what Democrats do in blue states, that is bring charges against their political opponents for things in which charges are warranted.
		I don't want to see, you know, some random Democrat charge on a fake charge like they did to Trump.
		But I'm saying with like the Clinton email server, for instance, was she campaigning at all in West Virginia?
		Yes, she was.
		Are there potential violations that the state, of course they could find these violations.
		And everybody keeps asking why the federal government doesn't intervene when it's the state.
		The states could be doing a lot of this.
		And Texas has been doing that.
		Even right now, I see is what you guys are doing, often leading the charge in these challenges.
		But where are the rest of these Republican states to take any action?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
		I mean, one, we're blessed with that beautiful gold.
		It's actually black stuff that comes out of the ground that helps kind of fund our government and have the teams of lawyers.
		I do recognize not every state has the budget, right, that we have to put that team together and put those cases together.
		So sometimes you'll see us leading on that reason alone, right?
		Some people just literally can't afford it.
		And aside from the idea, and we talked about it before, right, where the left, that is their religion, that's who they are.
		And I realize as conservatives, we have families and jobs.
		I've got five boys.
		We're homeschool family as well.
		That's right.
		A single income earner, essentially having to work part-time with this other part-time gig.
		But if you're going to step into it, go full-board.
		Don't like do it halfway.
		I mean, be serious about it.
		Americans want fighters.
		We don't just want somebody to come up and vote.
		I mean, there is a mandate.
		sent for us to fight back against the left's oppression.
		We have to.
		It's only a narrow amount of time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		With what we're seeing Democrats do in your state, saying they're not going to come back, politicos reporting a fine of upwards of $400,000 per special session called by the governor, civil arrest warrants.
		I mean, it sounds like the only way this gets resolved is if the state is willing to actually enforce action against these Democrats or at least take the interpretation.
		If the courts don't say the seats are vacated, Democrats can just say, fine us.
		We don't care.
		And then you guys are just gridlocked.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		You're so right.
		There has to be consequences and i was only here for the 2021 quorum break but after all of us kind of sit here for for like two and a half months doing nothing waiting on them to return right interrupting our lives and being away from whatever right and we signed up for it i get that i don't want to get a pity party and they return essentially like it all went back to normal for most people I mean, they still get tons of pork in the budget way more than freaking Republicans.
		They still pass bills way more than Republicans.
		They still get to participate.
		They get this session.
		They're vice chairs with essentially the same power as chairmanships.
		They get this money and they leave.
		And I hope it's different this time.
		I hope when they come back that all bets are off, that it unites actually the Republican caucus and we stop even doing that.
		Because the excuse we hear all the time is, well, we have to do that because Texas has a 100 corn requirement.
		Whatever.
		Okay.
		Let's shove it down their throats.
		We elected this majority.
		That's all we need to pass bills.
		If they don't want to show up, well, they didn't show up and we'll start vacating their seats.
		So they'll suffer consequences in the ballot box.
		I don't know why we're negotiating with them, though.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think governors should just do it.
		If the courts drag their feet or play dirty games, we need men of action.
		We need people who are going to say, listen, I'm not playing this game where you can leave vile.
		violate the spirit of our laws and our goodwill to steal political power in this state and in this country anymore.
		So just say, nope, you know, you know, you know what you should do?
		Just pass the resolution without quorum.
		And the problem is very few people have the political will to even do it.
		Just do it.
		Let them sue you for violating quorum.
		Let them bring the fight to you.
		It's like if you haven't bring the fight to them, just do it.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Man.
		Exactly.
		And right now, they won't even let us on the front mic to maybe even give a speech or talk about it because we don't have a quorum.
		I couldn't agree more, right?
		We should just do it anyways.
		See what they do about it.
		Yeah.
		Either way, it'll still be a great exercise.
		We can show that we're fighting for it because, man, it's tough, right?
		The legislature is unique.
		We get it all the time like, well, why didn't you pass the bill?
		Just do it.
		And, you know, our system of government wasn't set up that way, right?
		The legislative branch is the most powerful branch.
		I mean, I'm going to blow up a myth real quick.
		We're not co-equal.
		Okay.
		Congress, the Texas House, it was given gobs of power, right?
		Plenary power, meaning we can do anything we want unless prohibited in the Constitution.
		The other branches can only do what they're allowed to do, but we're restrained, right?
		I've got to convince the other chamber to agree.
		You've got to get past a governor's veto or get to a governor's signature.
		It was made really hard to do.
		But there are people in positions that can do it without anyone else, right?
		And thankfully, the governor's going for that in AG, but that's what it's happening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We've got a limited time, but who's stopping you from just going to the floor?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, you're going to love this one.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		The parliamentarian won't allow it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But who cares?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I'm with you i was speaker i'd say that thank you for those words parliamentarian we're calling the session anyway goodbye Yeah, yeah.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Last time, we just went ahead and started having our own hearings informally, even if it wasn't part of a committee.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's no reason that just 10 or 12 legislators who feel like working just get together and talk about things.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We are human beings.
		What we say is what we do.
		And this idea that there is this structure in place by which Democrats can exploit it to stop us makes literally no sense.
		Well, I don't understand why it is.
		Democrats can do things that break the constitution and get away with it.
		And Republicans go, but a parliamentarian won't let us speak.
		Now, look, you know, without going in circles, were I in a position of power, I'd just be like, parliamentarian, you can leave.
		This is a formal session.
		It is official and it is done by.
		If the Democrats can break the rules, so can we.
		And they can bring it to court and challenge it.
		And then we'll see what happens.
		But I don't want to rant.
		I do appreciate you coming on.
		Is there anything else you wanted to add to add before we go that people should know?
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		No, I just hope some of my colleagues, you know, hear your words of encouragement and realize that there's more to be done they don't have to just sit around and wait but it's odd because it's almost like they're afraid of offending them because they want to work with them they come back i don't get it if they were to tell their voters that they would be so pissed off like oh i'm nice to them because we're going to get along that's not what you said on the campaign trail right i assure you of that so thank you we just need six you know look maybe if there's a couple of bubbles out there with some you know big
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		up pickup trucks some florida guys some georgia boys just go find six of them and bring them back to Texas so uh so we can get our job done.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on.
		Rep Cain, thanks for joining me.
		I appreciate it.
		We'll see you next time.
briscoe cain ▲ ● ▼		Howdy, guys.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Take care.
unidentified		All right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I, you know, I'm just going to say it one more time.
		I want people to do things.
		So that was, of course, that was Rep Briscoe Cain.
		Really appreciate him joining and explaining everything that's going on.
		We're going to get that raid going for you guys to go join our friend Russell Brand.
		But I got to say it one more time because this one just strikes the heart, man.
		Democrats have decided in Texas, we will violate the spirit of the rules.
		Okay.
		They're exploiting the rules by breaking quorum.
		That was never the intent.
		They are willing to face arrest.
		They are willing to face fines for violations.
		They don't care that the Republicans threaten weight of law against them.
		Where are the Republicans to say, we will play in kind?
		The session will happen without you.
		The quorum rule be damned because you broke it in the first place.
		Sue me.
		I'm not playing this game where I have to sue you.
		You sue me.
		I will do it anyway.
		You sue me.
		I'm sick of hearing these, but the speaker said no or the parliamentarian said no.
		You think the Democrats cared when they broke quorum?
		No.
		They're challenging you to sue them.
		Let's play that game.
		My friends, we got Russell Brand gearing up to go live and carry on with the next.
		I believe it's Russell Brand.
		Let me make sure.
		Sometimes it changes, but it's usually Russell.
		And okay, so it's not Russell.
		Who do we got going up?
		I'm not sure.
		Let me see if we got any notifications.
		Nope.
		Russell is not live today, I believe.
		These things happen.
		But it looks like Viva Fry is.
		So we'll send you to hang out with Viva.
		Shout out to Viva Fry.
		We'll send everybody on.
		on their way to hang out with Viva.
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