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June 16, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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Liberal NO KINGS Organizers, SHOOT & KILL Innocent Man, Marines DETAIN Leftist At Riots ft. Andy Ngo

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tim pool
We've got this story from Fox 13. Gunman arrested for murder of protester despite not firing the shots.
At a protest turned, I don't know if you can call it a riot.
It's in Salt Lake City with what appears to be a thousand plus marching.
A man reportedly was, quote, manipulating a rifle when some of the organizers from the event, the 50501 movement, took aim.
and opened, took aim at the man who fled and they shot at him as he was fleeing, killing an innocent bystander.
This is insane.
The man who fired the shots was not arrested.
Fox 13 says one person has died after a shooting that occurred Saturday as protesters marched to the streets of downtown Salt Lake City following a No King's protest.
Police arrested a suspect for alleged murder, although he was not the person who fired the fatal shot.
Red identified the suspect as Arturo Roberto Gamboa, who was found with an AR-15 and a gas mask.
Two additional people were detained following the shooting.
They were wearing high-visibility vests and armed, with Red saying they were possibly part of the march's peacekeeping team.
Now, this has been confirmed.
These men were, quote-unquote, peacekeepers.
I think about Kyle Rittenhouse.
When he was threatened with death, physically attacked, and fled, And only after someone fired a shot that he turned around and a man tried to grab his gun, actually touched it, attacked him, he opened fire.
As he fled, they attacked him further.
And the left said he was a vigilante.
The media said he was a vigilante.
They claimed he murdered three black people.
None of it ever happened.
Now we have liberal organizers of the No Kings protest, the 50501 movement, involved directly with shooting and killing an innocent bystander.
And they're not even arrested.
Things are getting crazy, and it's hard to say if this is escalation or inter-leftist conflict.
From The Guardian, U.S. Marines detained civilian first known instance since Trump deployed troops to L.A. This is a dramatic escalation.
As the No Kings protest across the country, in some instances, descended into rioting.
Now, my friends, we're going to be joined by Andy Ngo.
He's an expert on all of this stuff and he knows a lot about who these people are, what went down.
So let's pull in Andy right now.
We're going to grab that camera here, get it all set up.
I believe we have our sources synced.
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We've got Andy.
Andy, can you hear me?
Can you hear and see me, Andy?
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No.
andy ngo
I do.
Hello.
tim pool
Hey, how's it going?
Thanks for joining.
andy ngo
My pleasure.
tim pool
Do you want to give a brief, just real quick, who are you and what do you do?
andy ngo
Yeah, my name's Andy Ngo.
I am an independent journalist most known for reporting on Antifa, Tarantifa, and the violent far left.
I'm originally from Portland, Oregon.
tim pool
So you've experienced it on the ground, of course.
You've written a book about it.
You've been physically attacked on more than one occasion.
This past week and into the weekend, we've seen an escalation of far-left riots.
The No Kings protest, of course, in certain areas of the Pacific Northwest devolved into just outright riots.
But we have this story of these peacekeepers who shot and killed a guy, and they arrested somebody else.
This is pretty confusing.
Out of Salt Lake City, can you break down what happened with that, who these people are, and why they arrested this other guy?
andy ngo
The story is confusing because, well, once I explain it, you'll understand why.
There are a lot of Democrat and liberal media narratives at risk.
We've been told now for the last couple of days that the No Kings protests that happened nationwide were peaceful.
And this was a lawful demonstration against the authoritarian tendencies of President Trump.
But as you mentioned a moment ago, there were some places where there were But in Salt Lake City, Utah, it turned deadly.
Yesterday, the Salt Lake City police did a press conference detailing how a suspect had been charged with murder.
and they released his name, Arturo Gamboa.
And the reaction online from those who read the headlines was they thought it was...
But that's not what happened at all, according to the police and according to footage that has emerged.
The shooting happened...
So this is a liberal demonstration.
For those who don't know us about the background, the No Kings event, it was organized by nearly 200 Democrat-aligned unions, PACs, non-profits, activist groups, et cetera, all on the left.
And at the protests in Salt Lake and in other cities, they did not want a large, visible police presence because there's still anti-police sentiment among the mainstream left going back now for a long time because of BLM and also because they blame police for potentially allying with federal law enforcement.
So some places have their own volunteer peacekeepers, which are just Left-wing liberal protesters who don a vest and have the task of maintaining peace.
And a peacekeeper may have misjudged a situation because a radical leftist who came allegedly with a rifle, and you can see in the video he was holding something that looked like a rifle and did not appear to be brandishing it at anyone's.
A peacekeeper fired shots in the direction of the Radical Latino leftist and raised him only and instead killed an innocent bystander who was part of the protest.
A Samoan American man died.
And so the radical Latino leftist, Mr. Gamboa, is the one that's been charged.
with murder.
Even though he is not accused of firing any rounds, the so-called peacekeeper has not been named at all by authorities, and it's unclear if he will be facing any charges charges.
Salt Lake City Police is asking for people who have video or photo evidence to submit it to them in their investigation.
tim pool
So this guy they arrested.
He's not pointing at anybody or anything like that?
andy ngo
In a video, which is somebody from high up on a building is panning over in the crowd, and it just happened by coincidence to catch the shooting as it's happening.
And you see a person who is identified as the murder suspect, the radical leftist, running away.
He's dressed all in black.
He's running away.
His rifle appears to be pointed at the ground, and you see a person wearing a bright vest, the alleged so-called peacekeeper, firing rounds in the direction of the Latino man, and a person standing nearby was shot dead.
tim pool
This is a very, very weird story.
Like, you know, I've compared this with the Kyle Rittenhouse case where...
He was attacked.
And he fled.
And only after someone fired a shot behind him did he turn around, got attacked again, shot, you know, he killed that man Rosenbaum.
He tried to go to the police, was attacked again.
This is a weird story where it appears, you're mentioning, you're saying there's video of what appears to be one of these, these liberal peacekeepers, I understand it, were associated with the 5051.
It's the stupidest name because you've got to explain it.
It's 50501.
It appears they shot at this guy for no reason.
From everything I've read and as you're describing it now, it sounds like there's a far-left Antifa guy.
He's got a rifle.
Some other guy points the rifle at him.
So he runs, which I think a lot of people might do if they get a rifle pointed at him.
And then this 50501 guy starts shooting into the crowd.
Yet they didn't arrest him.
They didn't call this a liberal mass shoot or anything like that.
It's just I'm quite confused as to how this is how it played out.
andy ngo
So it was the peacekeeper who pointed a pistol and fired it, not the rifle, by the way.
The radical leftist is the one with the rifle.
tim pool
Interesting.
andy ngo
He has it on him.
He's running away.
It's pointed at the ground as he's running away.
We don't know if he was brandishing it at anybody.
That's not part of the allegations, and no footage has emerged of that.
To explain a bit more of the context for people who might be confused, understandably, at a lot of these left-wing demonstrations, these radical anarchist communist revolutionary types, which, by the way, the social media that is alleged to belong to the Latino guy, he would have those views.
They go to these demonstrations to act sort of with firearms, to act
I can imagine a situation, because it's happened before, where these militants on the radical left who come with tactical gear, they're dressed in all black, they're wearing masks, and they're open carrying weapons, other people who don't know who they are might...
And in this case, it turned deadly.
It remains to be seen if that's actually what happened, but there's no evidence so far that the man actually charged with murder.
Was threatening to anybody other than opening carrying, but that's lawful in the state of Utah.
And for why he's been charged with murder, a lot of states in their criminal statutes on murder, it can include if you create the conditions where somebody gets killed, you don't necessarily have to be the one who pulled the trigger or stabbed somebody, for example.
But if you create the conditions where somebody is killed, you can be charged.
tim pool
I think what they were saying is that this Gamboa guy was in the process of committing a felony and then someone died, so therefore it's his fault.
But the question is – I don't know.
I mean we could check.
Is it legal to open carry a rifle in Salt Lake City?
I'd imagine it is.
Maybe there's some restriction on him or I don't know if that's come up in your investigation.
andy ngo
I'm not aware of any restrictions for open carrying in Salt Lake City.
I might have – Maybe people who are watching live can then correct me if I'm inaccurate on that.
But it just shows how sort of paranoid liberals in the left are.
Like, they think everybody is a proud boy or a white supremacist seeking to kill them.
And, you know, they've targeted a lot of people, not killed them, but violently assaulted people with just like, all it needs is just like,
tim pool
What do you think would have happened if the peacekeeper, they're calling him, I mean, it's kind of a ridiculous thing to say, but what if that was a uniformed police officer who fired live rounds into a crowd of No Kings protesters?
How do you think the media and the liberals would be reacting?
andy ngo
We would get some type of reaction maybe similar to 2020.
You know, it's all about sort of convenient victims and convenient perpetrators for the radical left and liberal media.
Accuracy doesn't really matter.
It's about what narrative is being reinforced.
So the No Kings protest is still being called peaceful when you have somebody who was shot dead, just a person who was attending.
And This is surprising to me.
tim pool
I tweeted this morning.
I said something like, so a far-left extremist with a rifle freaked out some other far-left extremists who then shoot into the crowd, killing a random person.
So the cop arrests the extremist who was running and not the guy who was shooting.
The response I got from people was, huh?
I was – I thought this was something everybody was going to know about.
I thought this was going to be like major trending news, especially considering local media reports said that it was – the group 5051, 50501 – I hate their name by the way – had said one of our people was involved in this, we were involved in this.
And they were saying things like we had to make a very difficult decision when this happened and it's a tragedy, blah, blah, blah.
I think you're right when you say it's being swept under the rug and people aren't discussing this.
This should be a massive story.
This is, you go out peacefully at one of these events and these are private organizations, liberal organizations, that have armed, unsanctioned individuals.
These are not legally sanctioned individuals walking around with guns, trained and ready to kill if they perceive a threat.
And that's exactly what happened.
But I will move on a little bit because...
Can you tell us what was going on up there?
andy ngo
Yeah, so there's been a lot of protests that are happening, and I think people might be confused on what's what.
So there's been the ongoing insurrections that first started in L.A. now over a week ago.
And so there's already been days of violence in L.A., in Portland, in Seattle.
And then the No Kings protests coincided on Saturday with this sort of larger insurrection.
In Portland, the rioters that were trying to burn down the local ICE facility, again, had their numbers bolstered by people who, once the No Kings demonstration was over, which was peaceful in Portland, then some of those people were brought over.
Or encouraged to go to the ICE facility where the rioters launched another very violent attack on the building and smashed open the front doors, which are glass, and with the intent to go inside to burn it down from the inside because the fires that they had set on the outside had failed to make the building catch on fire.
And the building is next to an elementary school, by the way.
I've been on the ground a lot in that area, not in this particular case, but in prior years, because in 2018, when there were a lot of lies and incitement to violence against ICE at that time during the first Trump administration, remember what we were told about family separations and all the hysteria about that.
Antifa, really many of the same people that are involved in violence now in Portland, violently overtook the And there aren't very many federal officers who can just mobilize on an incident to go and respond.
You know, they have to fly people in, drive people in.
It takes a day or two to mobilize that.
So for hours, whilst staff inside were calling Portland Police 911, For help, the Portland police declined to provide any assistance, saying that, well, this is federal property, so it's your problem.
unidentified
Wow.
andy ngo
The response this time is a little bit different.
We have a new mayor who, you know, he's woke, but he also remembers what happened to Ted Wheeler when Ted Wheeler tried to placate Antifa for many, many years.
And the Portland police have responded to the rioters on the street.
So at least they're doing something.
They're not going on the federal property to try to restore order, but at least the crimes that are being committed immediately in front of the building, because the street is shut down and people, Antifa, are bringing blockades and other things into the streets and terrorizing this residential community, by the way.
So there were four arrests last night.
There were three the night before.
A couple nights ago, there were 10 arrests.
So we're just over 15 arrests now from five days of attacks on the ICE facility in Portland.
And then in Seattle, it was also really violent.
This was not connected to the No Kings protest, even though it fell on the same day.
It was just part of the daily violence that federal...
So there's a DHS building right by Seattle in a different city called Tukwila.
And so Seattle Antifa, after having carrying out multiple nights of arson attacks and vandalism on the federal building downtown, they went to this DHS building and created a blockade similar to what they did in Portland in 2018.
They were trying to prevent anybody from coming in or out.
And there's some viral footage of, you know, these mass militants with their arms locked and these, like, sort of things that they've dragged onto the street to create a blockade.
But what they didn't know was that the, at least in Washington State, at this building, there were federal officers who were ready.
They were inside, and they responded very quickly and shut it down.
They pepper sprayed and cleared the crowd.
The riot hurts.
Basically kicked open that blockade and the DHS vehicles, ICE vehicles were able to drive away, potentially with detainees inside, we don't know.
And that really angered Antifa.
So then at night they went downtown to where they had been attacking the federal building.
They returned to that and started fires, vandalized the building.
There were a number of really violent assaults over the weekend on journalists.
By Seattle Antifa.
Brandy Kruza, who's a really great Seattle-based independent YouTuber.
your followers should check out her content.
You know, she's this woman who, a young woman who's gone independent now, but she worked for the local...
It might have been a Fox affiliate, but she was in Legacy Media for a long time in Seattle, and now she's independent.
And she's been quite critical of left-wing political violence.
And anytime you do that, you become a target, unfortunately, speaking from experience.
And Brandy, she came with security outside that Tukwila facility.
And the rioters assaulted her, assaulted her security.
They tried to blind her with some chemical spray in the eyes.
They hurled all this water and liquid and unknown stuff all over her and threatened her.
They're quite emboldened.
And it was caught on video.
There were other journalists who recorded it.
And then at night, Cam Higby, who's an incredible young citizen journalist who goes across the country at great risk to himself to cover these riots.
I mean, you used to cover riots.
I used to cover riots.
You know how dangerous it is and why a lot of people stop because you get targeted.
So Cam was undercover.
The militants were looking for him.
They found him and they beat him.
He was very, very lucky that he was wearing a helmet because they were beating him on the head.
His helmet was dented.
He had to go to the hospital the next day because he was bleeding from his nose when he was sleeping.
And he's diagnosed with a concussion.
So he's lucky that he's alive, for one.
This is the type of violence in Seattle.
The response from the mayor and the governor, you know, Democrats run Washington state at basically every level.
So they sort of set the narrative.
They're describing these protests as peaceful and their condemnations are only directed towards their political targets.
Like a few weeks ago, there were Christians who did.
A Christian worship rally in Cal Anderson Park, which is where Chaz was.
And they were condemned by the mayor and the governor as these far-right Christian nationalists.
And they had nothing really to say about the masked, violent organizers who came to attack people.
So I reluctantly describe Antifa as an unofficial paramilitary, the Democrats, in the sense that the relationship is not official, like Democrats are not directing Antifa to attack this or do this or that,
but rather it's like the Democrats will create the conditions where Antifa feel empowered to be violent and criminal because they know that they'll have sort of a protection of those who are in power.
And I think that's what we're seeing now.
tim pool
Man, it is getting really, really crazy out there.
This past weekend, I think, is crazy.
I think we'll probably end up seeing more this week.
But for those that are watching, where can they find you?
andy ngo
I am on nocomment.com.
That's my stuff stack.
NGOcomment.com.
No comment.
tim pool
And then you got an X account?
andy ngo
I do.
It's MrAndyNGO.
tim pool
Andy, I really do appreciate you joining and explaining all this for us.
So thanks for hanging out, and we'll see you next time.
andy ngo
Thank you.
tim pool
Have a good one.
All right.
That was the intrepid journalist Andy Ngo who joined us.
A little shorter interview today, but Andy's a busy guy.
He's a busy guy doing a lot of really great work out there.
And so in the meantime, we'll just jump over and pick up some of this other news that's been going on.
I think probably the more interesting and most notable is the Marines have actively gotten involved on the ground.
Detaining individuals.
And this is the first time in potentially generations because it is rare that we see U.S. military actually involved with U.S. law enforcement.
We have this from The Guardian.
U.S. Marines detained civilian in first known instance since Trump deployed troops to L.A. This is from the 13th on Friday, in fact.
They say Marines took charge of the Wilshire Federal Building early on Friday in a rare domestic use of U.S. troops after days of protest over immigration raids.
Ritter's images showed Marines apprehending a civilian, restraining his hands with zip ties, and then handing him over to civilians from DHS.
Asked about the incident, the U.S.'s Northern Command spokesperson said, Any temporary detention ends immediately when the individuals can be safely transferred to the custody of appropriate civilian law enforcement.
About 200 Marines arrived in L.A. on Friday morning.
Of course, we have seen their deployment.
And now, of course, the No Kings protests sees violence in some instances, as we explained and as Andy Ngo explained.
Not all of the violence of the weekend was associated with the No Kings protests.
No Kings is a more of a mainstream liberal event.
That being said, you take a look at this instance and we've got ourselves the makings of a very serious scandal.
As I mentioned to Andy, I was very shocked to find that when I tweeted about this, People were responding totally confused, having no idea what I was talking about.
In one instance, someone thought I was talking about a shooting from five years ago.
This happened over the weekend.
And one of the groups that is organizing with no kings pulled out.
I didn't realize it was a pistol, so this is why we talked to Andy Ngo, right?
He tracks this stuff.
He's investigating these things.
Pulled out a pistol and fired into a crowd indiscriminately at somebody who apparently wasn't doing anything.
Now what I do want to do is look up the open, I'll say this, what are the open carry rules in Utah?
Because I'm curious as to what makes what this guy Gamboa did a felony.
I don't like the far left, okay?
Now, in Utah, 21 and up, permitless open carry is allowed of a loaded or unloaded firearm.
I'm assuming this guy, I believe he was 28 years old.
The question is, what did the guy they arrested do that was a felony?
They even say this from Fox 13. Despite not firing the shots.
I believe what we're seeing right now, and the reason why the story isn't as well known, is that the liberal organizers of this event were involved in this.
Let me pull this one up.
We've got this.
I want to grab this quote for you and make sure you guys can see it.
From UtahNewsDispatch.com.
They have a quote.
It's in a Facebook post on Sunday morning.
Utah 50501, the group that organized the protest, said, quote, Our team was directly involved.
We have been in direct contact with law enforcement.
Some of you seem to think that a keyboard and social media gives you a free pass to be nasty and accusatory.
Our teams just had to deal with something extremely traumatizing.
And when faced with personal risks to their own lives, chose to run towards the danger.
No, it actually sounds like from the evidence we have, they created the danger.
The organizers themselves shot and killed a guy and have not been charged.
This is insane.
They say we respectfully ask you to refrain from speculation, but the alleged shooter's motives and identity, that information will come out soon enough.
Hold on, hold on.
The shooter's motives and identity?
He was part of your group you were involved with, and he was shooting at a guy he was scared of.
We know about his motive.
Are they implying the guy who didn't fire a shot at a rifle was a shooter?
This is insane.
They say it is better to wait for the facts, even though it is difficult given the emotional and charged nature of the incident.
The group said in a separate Facebook post, This was a horrific moment of violence in a historic day of thousands of Utahns exercising their rights to protest.
Nothing will ever change the undeniable strength of the community.
Why aren't the police grabbing the guy who did it?
I don't understand.
Unless they're trying to cover up who this guy is and what was actually going on.
As Andy Ngo pointed out, there is video that shows this guy.
Rifles pointed down and he's running away.
Now I ask you this.
They said we were directly involved.
That's 50501.
They organized the protest.
The protest organizers directly involved is their guy who shot.
In what reality do you shoot at a man running away?
Honest question.
If this guy, if the police know there's a guy who's already killed and he's armed and may kill again, yeah.
But a person armed running from you does not present an active threat that you can kill him over.
This is insane.
Now we are about rounding out this show.
I do want to grab some of your Rumble rants.
Coldtown992 says, Bolton won.
I hope not, man.
That's in reference to Iran.
John says, Indeed.
But he could still have it fought in a way that de-escalates U.S. involvement.
Guido says, I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Let's see.
The default points out that Iran has called for the death of America and Israel.
You don't need to believe the news.
You can watch the videos.
Indeed, we know that they do this, in fact.
The question is, why would the U.S. be involved in a regional conflict?
It's really sad to look at what's happened in Iran since the revolution.
People used to be rather Western.
Now they're a deeply fundamentalist Islamic nation.
I still don't.
The U.S. should be the world police going and telling everyone else how to live their lives.
Our sergeant says, the news is covering the two reps that got shot.
My liberal local newscaster asked the question, are people emboldened to commit political violence because January 6th, rioters had been pardoned.
It's fascinating, isn't it?
The left engages in violence endlessly for the past 20 plus years.
Remember back at the RNC?
And I think it was in Minnesota, where leftists had Molotov cocktails in a van and they arrested a bunch of these guys.
I remember that.
We then get all of the protests throughout the 2010s.
Not necessarily the Occupy movement itself.
And I have no problem with, you know, Andy points out No King's largely peaceful.
Something's going on with these guys shooting, that's for sure.
The right has one riot.
A bad riot for sure, but one riot.
They launch a manhunt for these people.
They hunt them down, lock them in solitary.
And the question is, is the right emboldening people?
I don't know.
I'd have to think that when a liberal organizer, associate of this group that is doing the organizing, shoots and kills a guy by firing indiscriminately into a crowd and you don't arrest him, you're emboldening violence.
It's getting crazy out there, my friends.
I don't know where things go.
I really don't.
I will just tell you all, man.
My friends, I do think violence is going to escalate.
Younger people are hyperpolarized.
They've seen enough and they want action.
They want something to be done about it, but the left is more violent and the right is...
I would argue the left is more violent.
We've seen the riots across the board.
We see what they agree with.
The right is more action oriented.
The right wants the law to be used to go after these people and shut them down and lock them up.
Both sides want an escalation in the use of force against their political opponents.
I don't see how we escape any of this.
It's generational.
Now, my friends, we will be sending you all over to join our good friend.
I believe we've got Russell Brand today.
Let me make sure.
Sometimes it's different.
Yep, we got Russell Brand gearing up to go live to talk about U.S. involvement in Iran and the assassin in Minnesota, which is another huge story here, by the way.
Very little information about.
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