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June 12, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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US Preps For ISRAELI STRIKES On Iran, Begins EVACUATIONS, WW3 FEARS ERUPT ft. John Doyle

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john doyle
But we got this from the Jerusalem Post yesterday.
Israel is considering striking Iran in the coming days without U.S. support.
This comes shortly after a CBS report in which multiple sources stated that Israel has told U.S. officials that it is fully ready to launch an operation into Iran.
Iran's military has begun drills earlier that focused on enemy movements.
According to their state media.
So, yeah, it looks like Israel and the U.S., that relationship is not the relationship those two countries have had previously.
Israel isn't really waiting for the green light.
They're not waiting for the green light from the Americans, right?
They're ready to go.
They're ready to strike.
And this is why the Iran talks are really important.
Because if we can potentially come to a deal, cut a deal with the Iranians that is acceptable for both parties, we could balance out the situation in the Middle East, right?
All this sort of saber-wagging from Iran would probably come to a close.
That's what we need, but then you see Israel coming in here, and who knows who they reported this to or how this news got out, but that Israel is considering striking.
What this appears to be is that Israel perhaps knows that the Americans are close to a deal with the Iranians, and they're trying to put pressure on both parties to walk away from the negotiating table.
This may be the case.
I'm not sure.
I mean, obviously, you would need to be in these rooms to know if that's the case.
But nevertheless, very interesting if the Israelis decide that now is the time to strike.
This is kind of coming down to a breakdown.
There's sort of a...
The older generations in DC still subscribe to sort of a unipolar worldview as in where the Americans are the sole superpower.
And the younger generations kind of understand that after the Soviet Union fell, it was kind of impossible for the Americans to maintain their position, our position, as the world's superpower, right, as the world police.
And so, yeah, this breakdown has occurred and you're starting to see now this kind of tug between the older generation and the younger generation in D.C. And it looks like, thankfully, Trump and Vance have come down on the side of reasonable geopolitics.
They understand that the Iranians need to be sort of respected.
You can't just stomp all over these countries.
I want to break down this Iran stuff more.
I had some more stuff I wanted to get into.
But yeah, I really wanted to bring him in to have a chat.
We're going to break down...
Is it a distraction?
Maybe they're trying to take heat off of, like I was touching on earlier, how the right sort of uniting around limiting immigration.
It's tough to tell, but yeah, I wanted to rope them in.
Let's see, we're getting them up here.
John, can you hear me?
Yes.
Dude, what's up, Patriot?
How's it going?
Dude, I'm having a very patriotic morning.
I hope that everybody is as well.
Yeah, so why don't you give a little introduction to the people watching, who you are?
Sure.
My name is John Doyle.
I have a show over on YouTube called The John Doyle Show.
I guess it used to be called Heck Off Commie.
And I talk about politics.
We go in pretty deep with a lot of different topics, cultural, political, historical, things like that.
Yeah, good stuff.
Well, you told me pre-show that you're banging the war drum.
You're ready to go to war with Iran.
You're really excited about that.
Can you explain your position?
Yeah, you know, on principle, I'm sort of opposed to more involvement in the Middle East and wars.
But I've been hearing about war with Iran ever since I was a boy.
You know, you grow up and...
Like, you know, our dads, every time they went to go buy a gun, they were buying the 1911, like the toys.
We grew up playing with the M9s.
And I want to get in, dude.
Like, I wasn't old enough to go over and participate in the global war on terror.
And so I'm crossing my fingers that, yeah, finally we get war with Iran.
Finally we get boots on the ground.
Because they've been guaranteeing it for, I mean, literally our entire lives now.
I saw a graphic on Twitter where people were – And it's basically been like if you squint your eyes, the same thing for over 20 years now in terms of, oh, they're on their way to getting a nuke.
They're on their way.
We have to.
And so all of that is alluding to this idea that like.
Israel would be able to attack Iran, and then the United States, of course, would back Israel up.
But thankfully, I don't think that that's going to have to happen because I think that right now U.S.-Israel relations are probably the weakest they've been at any point in our lifetimes, which Patriots knew was going to happen going into the second Trump administration because Trump is like really an America first guy.
He'll do business with different factions as you do in politics.
And so I don't think that we'll have to go get a boots-on-the-ground war in Iran.
Probably what will happen is you may see some strikes.
You may see Iran try to mobilize proxies, as they have been.
They've been pretty destroyed because of the IDF.
So this idea that America would have to get involved, I think, is pretty unlikely for the reasons I've stated and also because the stability of Iran as a state is something that I think people take for granted.
They're very unstable.
They're politically unpopular.
Their economy is unstable.
The idea that they could rally the troops and go to war and maybe get Russia and China, who have no interest in war, let alone a world war, to back them up.
They have no allies.
It's not a big deal, but it gets good engagements on Twitter.
Yeah, I mean, because that's kind of the talks right now is if this does break down, if Whitcoff isn't successful in coming to a deal, there's the snapback resolution that's within the original nuclear agreement in which we would reestablish all these sanctions from the UN onto Iran.
And it would take the Security Council, just a single member on the Security Council to approve this.
The U.S. actually withdrew from this agreement, so I think we would just...
And it's interesting because right now it doesn't look like China has an appetite to try and start a veto process if this were to happen.
And who knows if Russia is.
So, I mean, if Iran can even get their dogs in a line, what they're supposed to, you know, this kind of new axis, I don't see why we should be too afraid of a massive world war breaking out if we just choose not to engage with Iran.
But something I wanted to ask you was, The first three seemed to go pretty well.
We were seeing reports that it was fruitful, that they, you know, were starting to kind of find some common ground.
But the fourth and fifth ones looked to go pretty badly.
I know the one in Rome, I think that was the fifth talk.
The Iranian state media was reporting that Wyckoff left early and that he showed up late.
You know, it's Iranian state media, so take that for what it's worth.
But my question is, if the negotiations aren't going the way that we want them to, I know we have another round of discussions coming up on Sunday, what is the off-ramp for the United States if this does look like Israel's going to strike?
Yeah, that's a good question.
I think that in a way, like, I mean, Israel is very politically unstable.
They have a similar demographic issue to the one that we face in the West.
Insofar, I mean, their TFR is high, their total fertility rate, but They have a left, just as we do.
And Netanyahu is not exactly like a popular leader.
And so it is advantageous for him to sort of unify the coalition against, you know, some common enemy.
And I think you see the same in Iran, where it's like, again, they actually have a worse demographic issue.
Their TFR is like 1.6 or something.
Their people are not exactly of great stock.
They're not exactly patriots.
And so for a regime that is unpopular as they are, dealing with protests all the time, it's the same sort of strategy where, like, if you can present this sort of unified coalition against a common threat, then they can maybe keep kicking along.
I don't think that either party has an incentive to really back down.
How America can kind of get off from that, I think, is just simply by being a patriot and trusting Donald Trump.
I mean, he understands.
That we can't get into another war.
He understands that he ran against that.
I mean, that was the record of his first administration was de-escalation in the Middle East, famously not starting any new wars, famously changing the regime change policy against Assad in Syria.
So in terms of the mechanics of that, I don't know if I could predict what it would look like.
I do actually trust Trump in advance, especially, I mean, if you look at his record on foreign policy, it's exactly what we'd want it to be.
So I trust that they will not get America more deeply involved in these kinds of conflicts, which have nothing to do with us, and don't benefit us.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I mean, that's what everybody's been saying.
It's kind of a scratch of my eye, seeing some people that I would not expect to say this, saying, well, how does this involve us?
on the other side of the world.
I mean, they don't seem to...
I mean, they seem pretty content on operating in their sphere.
Because that was another question I wanted to ask you was, you know, we're kind of seeing on the macro scale in geopolitics, you're seeing this push and pull between the establishment in D.C. and the new MAGA movement, where the establishment is still committed to this 20th century American unipolar sort of worldview.
And the MAGA movement, while, yes, they're emphasizing America's strength, they're saying...
I'm curious, now that we're seeing this kind of fracturing, right?
We're seeing Russia, Iran, China really start to operate independent of anything, any fears really of America retaliating.
Where do you think this goes?
I mean, do you see the Trump administration really starting to retract from the world stage, or do you think there's maybe something in between?
I don't know.
I'm curious of your thoughts.
Yeah, I mean, I think that we have a more, So insofar as we have power and influence in the world right now, that's great, I guess, to some extent.
I mean, people having faith in the dollar that sustains our lifestyle.
But with that, you have...
And so they're going to import tens of millions of people from the third world.
They're going to allow crime.
They're going to install district attorneys who refuse to prosecute crime to like lower the quality of life that we would experience as Americans.
And so I'm confident in the ascendance like new right leadership class, because these are guys who maybe went through a little bit of like the neocon training and education, but they're able to actually reject it in a way that is pretty much unprecedented for, I guess, the aftermath of World War Two, where all of these like,
And because Trotskyites are Marxists, they retain this blank slate, libtard, everybody's equal idea, which then can be channeled into their impulse to, like, world build and nation build.
Because if we're all equal, well, then our Western liberal democracy certainly can be exported to these areas in the Middle East or in Africa or where have you.
And so I think that it's really just a numbers game.
They're going to be old and they're going to die and retire.
And the people who would replace them are going to be people who understand what the issues are, what we have to do.
And the only problem there is that we are also playing our own numbers game against the open border.
And so that's why this administration is a very crucial sort of turning point for Patriots because And then it doesn't even matter if like young conservative guys understand what we have to do.
The hurdles that will then be put in place are going to be so impossible that like Yeah, I mean, that's kind of a good segue to what I was hitting on earlier, where you're seeing really mainstream figures.
I was pointing out Charlie Kirk, Matt Walsh, these types of guys, they're advocating for an immigration moratorium, which when I saw that pop up in my feed, I thought,
People are just waking up, man.
I think you and I actually talked about this when I was in town.
It was Trump coming down the escalator, and then very importantly, it was Tucker's run in the summer of love in 2020 that really woke a lot of people up.
And I'm not a real big fan of this idea that if the people wake up, then we can change things.
The people who you want to wake up are, you know, the people who are above average intelligence, who are working in these kinds of positions.
It doesn't really matter if like your average American is like fully tuned into what we have to do, but you want smart people to be sympathetic to your ideas and to understand them.
And what's happened is because all of these things that have been promoted by the left have created...
It's kind of given people sort of a permission to entertain ideas that prior would have been considered too taboo, low status, low class, you know, only relegated stupid people.
But because guys like Tucker Carlson, who are like smart, and he has an audience of, you know, a lot of boomers, but there are also like a lot of people in D.C. who like him and who respect him working a daily caller.
And so it really was a matter, I think, of just like, And now that it's out of the box, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, so to speak.
You cannot unsee what people are now seeing.
And even Hispanics are getting it.
Hispanics are probably the most likely, especially maybe the Nortenia variety, to be what we would understand as assimilated.
But even now, MAGA patriots are like, no, send them all back.
The food's not even good.
Yeah, I saw Walsh's rant on the timeline about Mexican food.
I have to agree.
I think Tex-Mex is the superior cuisine.
I've been to Mexico.
I've had the local food.
It's just corn-based, starch-based, and some sort of meat.
I mean, it's really very straightforward.
Yeah, I think what we're kind of seeing here with the LA riots and then the Iran war, we're kind of seeing the two biggest pieces in why this country has been screwed over for decades.
And these are very salient for young people.
I mean, we've known this.
if you're a young right winger, you've known these two issues, the foreign wars and the mass immigration are the two issues that have really boned us.
It's interesting to see older people actually, But it's really fascinating to see that we're seeing on full display.
You would think that one of our guys paid for these two to be on the news because it's just the perfect culmination of everything that's gone wrong.
What do you think the pathway forward is for young people?
It's kind of tough because it feels like we're getting shut out of a lot of these institutions, right?
It kind of feels like a lot of older folks in D.C. are digging their heels in.
But you're starting to see now older folks are kind of coming to issues that have been pushed by younger patriots for a long time.
So I'm kind of curious, what do you think the future is after the older generation kind of dies off?
What kind of elements do you expect to see rise?
Yeah, man.
I think that, honestly, it's our fight to lose.
I'm seeing a lot of guys who like five years ago, I remember we talked about this like five years ago, they were like, you know, watching content like mine, watching, you know, all the content online.
And now they go and they work in DHS or they work in the Trump admin.
And so like these are guys who had an interest in politics and they're passionate about it.
And they simply were smart, kept their nose clean.
And now they're like in positions where they are able to make decisions that are important.
And so I really think that like the issues that we've experienced as a movement.
With like gatekeeping and sort of editorializing has really decreased in a very positive way just like the last two or three years.
And you do have like maybe newer iterations of that that are not so good.
Like you have a lot of these institutions which are staffed by women.
And I'm not saying that in the sense that like we don't want women in politics.
I'm saying that what tends to happen is when women get involved in these things and they hear ideas that are like maybe edgy or something, it makes them uncomfortable.
It becomes an HR problem.
And so they're just like little things like that.
But other than that, I think that it's ripe for the picking.
And so that's why I think the advice has kind of shifted in the last couple of years from, you know, don't go to college, go be a plumber and make 80K and then, you know, ruin your body by age like 45 or something.
It's shifted to instead, like, go to college, get a law degree, you know, try to reach as high as you can, basically, because there are going to be opportunities opening up, I think, because the establishment is weak, man.
The ability of the right to put this back is probably gone.
I think they really tried literally everything in the lead-up to the 2024 election.
But now with somebody like Vance, who's very popular, and he's very talented, and he's a great speaker, and people like him, he's normal.
I mean, he goes on these podcast tours, and he does a great job.
And also with the unpopularity of Democrat, not only policies, but their parties, they have absolutely no talent.
It's looking good for Patriots right now.
And I think that Vance is really the only person I trust to continue whatever vector this is.
And I find it very likely that in the event that that happens, God willing, more opportunities are opened up for Patriots down the road.
So yeah, if you're a young guy listening, put down the wrench, dude.
Go get a law degree.
Go work for the Trump admin or the Vance admin.
unidentified
Yeah.
john doyle
Yeah.
I mean, this is kind of created an interesting scenario where you have, and you're very familiar with them.
I won't name names, but it's actually a pretty big tent of people that are seeing – You're seeing people really upset with figures like J.D. Vance demonstrating such a rhetoric upgrade from what we've seen from any politician.
and they're nitpicking, and they're crossing their arms like, well, no, we can't trust them because they're unifying.
And I'm sitting there thinking like, I don't know.
I know you've seen these sorts of people throwing a hissy fit as well.
Yeah, it's like, do you want the ball moved down the field or do you want to be a fanboy?
That's what it is.
I hate myself for using this example, but it's people that listen to Bleach.
Just like mad at everyone who just got turned on by Nevermind or something.
They're like, I was a fan before.
It was just like, okay, cool.
I don't know if I can use colorful language.
That's like what it is, dude.
And it's like, also, we're in our 20s, okay?
Death of the West came out in, what, 2002?
It was a New York Times bestseller.
None of us invented, like, immigration restrictionism.
Technology has sort of destroyed the ability for these old publications, be it Fox News, National Review, to kind of control the conversation.
And so now the good ideas are finally winning, unfortunately, because the conversation is uncensored.
You get a lot of really retarded ideas, too.
But the good ideas are winning and that's what matters.
And so, yeah, it's like, you know.
So...
Yes.
Can we complain about that?
You can always complain about anything.
But if you just look at where we are now versus where we are one year ago or five years ago, think in terms of decades, dude.
There's no reason to despair.
And even with some of these guys, like Charlie Kirk, for example, I don't even know if that guy's 30 years old yet.
Charlie Kirk, he's probably like 31, 32. They play these clips of him in 2018 when he was younger than I am now, I think.
Probably even younger than you.
And this is a guy who dedicated his 20s to building up Turning Point USA and building it into now, like, the largest, frankly, coolest sort of, like, young college organization for patriots.
He's been doing great work for Trump.
This is a guy who didn't exactly like have time to like lurk on the internet, read the books, do stuff like that.
He was rubbing shoulders with all these like normal GOP apparatchiks and he's like, oh yeah, well I'm going to kind of internalize the party messaging and I'm going to use that to build an organ for us and we're going to take down the socialists.
It's like, you can explain that in a way that's like charitable and not nefarious.
Like it's tougher to think that he was like rubbing his hands together the whole time like I'm going to control the right.
I don't want to get anybody in trouble, but I happen to know that in 2020, certain figures were asking certain figures for book recommendations.
Hey, what's going on?
And so some of us just sort of had a delayed onset red pill.
Some of us were like late bloomers.
And now that we're there, it's like, great, dude.
Welcome to the team.
Who cares?
You're doing great work.
You did great work for Trump.
I mean, this guy was in that donor circle, people whispering in his ear, cozy up to DeSantis, abandoned Trump.
Charlie Kirk could have done that.
I mean, he would have had a financial incentive to do that.
He would have had probably a social incentive.
He stayed loyal to Trump when Trump was bleeding allies.
Never Trump media was turning on him.
NEONEVER TRUMP, ALTERNATIVE MEDIA, LIKE DAILYWIRE WAS TURNING ON HIM, PROPPING UP DESANTIS.
AND WE SAW THIS HAPPENING IN 2021 He's like, Trump, but effective.
And I was like, what is this?
What's going on?
And then sure enough, they tried to primary Trump.
So yeah, Charlie, he's a patriot.
Matt Walsh, again, you can find hit pieces on Matt Walsh from 2011 where he's like the Anglo-Saxon character of the nation.
So it's like the idea that like these guys are less red-pilled than you know, some like 17 year old from Ecuador It's just like not true, dude.
So at a certain point you just have to uh Like, okay, if I were in this guy's position, what would I do?
Say, if I'm Charlie Kirk, I'm Matt Walsh, I'm like this big figure, a lot of audience, a lot of influence.
Do I get up there and do I just like, you know, recite an infographic from 4chan?
Or do I maybe have to exercise a little prudence and a little discipline?
And as a result, they're doing great work.
And everybody who's hating on them is not doing great work.
I like winners, okay?
I like guys that win.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I like winners.
Speaking of winning, you know, a couple people have raised fears that now that the ICE raids are ramping up, the big, beautiful bill does look like it may pass, actually.
With $150 billion-odd allocated towards ICE, if this bill passes, let's say, August, September, it's on the president's desk, there is fears that ramping up ICE raids to an insane degree right before the midterms may come back to haunt.
So in theory, it should actually help us.
But people are still susceptible to seeing these really grim imagery, you know, people like moms getting dragged out of cars and that sort of stuff.
And think about a thousand of Brigo Garcias every day.
I don't know.
Do you think Americans are ready for that?
It's tough to tell.
Dude, I honestly, I think that we've got a pretty strong stomach.
I think that Stephen Miller was very smart to begin the operations with violent criminals because the left of course, weren't able to help themselves.
And so they had like the Maryland man, MS 13 gang member.
And we all had to cry about this guy because it was so sad.
And now people have kind of built up a tolerance to that to where at a certain point, At a certain point, independent voters, immigration is very important to them.
Conservatives, obviously, is very important to us.
And the alternative being the Democrats, they're unpopular, they have nothing to run on.
So if we're just staking midterms based on how compelled Americans are going to be by foreign tiers, I would probably bet that we're going to do all right.
They just don't really Excuse me, 2019, they were marching and they had the women's march and streets were flooded.
And streets are flooded now because of illegal alien deportations.
But those aren't people who always vote the same way that we rely on Democrats or independents to vote for us.
So I think that it's kind of like a now or never thing.
I mean, we could try to maybe be a little bit strategic with it.
At the end of the day, we have so many people here.
We need to get started as soon as possible and prepare for some sort of nightmare scenario where patriots are no longer in control in 2029.
And so we may as well try to put a dent in now.
And I think that his record stands for itself.
And the opposition, again, they have no talent.
They have no energy.
It's just anti-Trump.
And that worked, I think, in 2019 because it's like, yeah, dude.
We don't know what this guy's going to do.
But now we've had a Trump administration.
We've had a libtard administration.
And people can kind of see which side the grass is greener on.
So I don't think it's going to work.
But they're also stupid and they're also theater kids and highly emotional and neurotic.
And so they cannot detect that it's not working.
They can only double down and then use any unpopularity as just vindication for why they need to continue doubling down.
Like, oh, this country's more white supremacists than I thought.
Must push harder.
So, yeah, dude, I'm confident.
Yeah.
Well, I've got to ask you, I don't know how familiar you are with sports ball, but at the end of the year, the league will give out an MVP award, a Most Improved Player of the Year award, and the Sixth Man of the Year award, so the best player that doesn't start.
I'm curious, who's your MVP, who's your MIP, and who's your sixth man for the Trump admin so far?
Sorry, can you...
The sixth man.
So he's not the starter.
He's the spark plug that comes off the bench and he gets you a lot of points.
Oh, dude.
Easy.
Okay.
Trump, MVP.
Marco Rubio, most improved.
Stephen Miller, spark plug.
I love those guys.
I love that.
Yeah, that's kind of the curious thing is the turnaround of Marco Rubio.
I don't even want to call him Little Marco anymore.
Big Mark.
Dude, we love Big Mark.
What do you think is happening in the psyche of a lot of these guys right now that are kind of I mean, what do you think is going on there?
I don't know.
You know, I've never really been interested in Marco Rubio, so I don't know if I have a read on him.
But it could be possible that this is a guy who just likes politics in the sense that, like, when you're a senator, you kind of have a lifestyle that's pretty good.
I mean, you can just kind of do what you want.
You get to, you know, black car service, nice meals, hotels.
You get to go speak.
You make a cushy salary.
And then in exchange, quite often what people do is they sell America out.
Now, what we do with those people is for a later time.
But for somebody like maybe Marco Rubio, say he's just some, like, you know, suit.
He just wants to play the game of politics, and he's sort of responding to the power that's coming down from Trump.
He's falling in line, and now he's using his position to forward the Trump agenda.
At that point, dude, I don't really care, like, what his personal stance on the issues is.
Like, I'm not electing Marco Rubio to be, like, the Pope.
I want him to just be, like, an effective employee of the United States government.
And so what his particular ideology is, Gang of Eight Rubio, Rubio.
I mean, I would have to guess, but insofar as he's doing a good job for Trump, I can only support him.
And yeah, that's welcomed.
It's welcomed.
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I love it.
john doyle
Well, dude, John, I gotta let you go, but before I let you go, thanks for the chat.
Where can people find you?
Yeah, you can find me on youtube.com slash John Doyle or on Twitter at Comrade Doyle.
Love it, dude.
Well, I appreciate you coming on, man.
I guess I'll see you around.
So true, man.
Thanks for having me.
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