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June 11, 2025 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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Democrats VOTE To Grant NON-CITIZENS Voting Rights, CIVIL WAR Fears Grow ft. Rudyard Lynch

BUY CAST BREW COFFEE TO SUPPORT THE SHOW - https://castbrew.com/ Become A Member And Protect Our Work at http://www.timcast.com Host: Tim Pool @Timcast (everywhere) Guest: Rudyard Lynch @WhatifAltHist (YouTube) My Second Channel - https://www.youtube.com/timcastnews Podcast Channel - https://www.youtube.com/TimcastIRL Democrats VOTE To Grant NON-CITIZENS Voting Rights, CIVIL WAR Fears Grow

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		From Fox News, 148 Democrats back non-citizen voting in D.C. as GOP raises alarm about foreign agents.
		I kid you not.
		Republicans wanted to ban non-citizens from voting.
		Democrats said, we don't want to do that.
		Democrats in numerous jurisdictions like in California and in New York have already passed or tried to pass non-citizen voting.
		That's the end of your country.
		The moment non-citizens can vote, they will start voting in the interests of other non-citizens.
		It's worse.
		A Democratic lawmaker in Minnesota says her family fraudulently came to this country.
		And fraudulently gained U.S. citizenship, and now she's a Democratic representative in Minnesota.
		This looks like it's going to get really bad.
		Now, Donald Trump can take some action.
		He is taking action.
		The question is, will he take enough action to actually quell this?
		If he does, what will Democrats do?
		To talk about history and what's going on, we've got, let me pull this up, we've got Rudyard Lynch joining us.
		Let me get the camera set up and everything running.
		Usually takes about three to five seconds to get it to boot up.
		And I think we are booted up.
		It is currently loading.
		Uh-oh.
		It appears to not be working.
		Well, sometimes that happens.
		What can I do about it?
		We got him.
		We got him.
		It's cleared.
		Rudyard, can you hear me?
unidentified		I can hear you loud and clear.
unidentified		Can you hear me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Indeed I can, sir.
		Thank you for joining me.
		Do you want to give a quick introduction as to who you are and what you do?
unidentified		Hi, thank you so much for having me as well.
		I'm Rudyard.
		I run a YouTube channel called What If All Test, which talks, I like to say, human nature across context.
		So politics, anthropology, history, that stuff.
		I've been on this show a few times already, and I'm widely known for my prediction that America will have a civil war in the next few years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Me too!
		Continue.
		Sorry, sorry.
		You were going to say something.
unidentified		With the events in Los Angeles, it's really worrying.
		And this was something I thought would happen, where if you check my channel from a few days ago, a day or two before the Los Angeles riots, I said, will the left use the Trump-Elon divide as a way to basically agitate?
		And I had options in a big way, in a little way, and not at all.
		And a majority of my audience thought the left would agitate in a big way.
		And look here, look where we are now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a good point, actually.
		I hadn't considered that.
		There had been ICE raids ongoing for some time.
		We had seen people resist ICE officials and ICE officers, but it hadn't gotten to this extent until that moment.
		I don't know if I could say they're related, but what I wanted to ask you, you know, you have a—I jokingly said— I have a prediction that we are on a track towards civil war, but I don't know if we ever crossed the threshold or how long it might take.
		There's an argument that we're in a cold civil war, which I think might be fair.
		There are two political factions fighting for control of our government.
		What's concerning to me is right now, fighting in the streets, riots, escalation.
		You've got calls from former politicians Adam Kinzinger.
		For Newsom to order the National Guard in California to defy Trump effectively.
		And then you have the issue of Democrats using non-citizens to bolster their political power at the federal government.
		So you've, you know, on your YouTube channel, you've done a ton of research on all of these different conflicts, civil wars, revolutions.
		I know that obviously when you get violence in the streets, there's fear that it could escalate to a war.
		But what about the political nature of this?
		Democrats bring in non-citizens.
		They get counted in the census.
		They get extra congressional seats, extra votes in Electoral College.
		That is a major point of this conflict right now.
		I'm curious if anything like that existed in other countries.
unidentified		Aristotle once said that it's the marker of a tyranny that the government brings in foreigners because the foreigners have no investment in that society.
		That goes back as far as you have records.
		It's normally the case that a corrupt government will hire foreign slave soldiers.
		That happened in Islam.
		It happened in Greece and Rome.
		It happened in India.
		And we have a more PC, less predatory version of that, but it's the same dynamic.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So it's like, I mean, how much of this is like ancient Rome?
unidentified		A lot.
		That's one of the biggest parallels I pick, especially there's lengthy civilizational cycles.
		The one that we're the closest to is around 100 BC with the fall of the Roman Republic.
		where Rome was split between two political parties, I have compared the Optimares to the Democrats, and then, sorry, the Optimares to the Democrats, and the Populares to the Republicans.
		What happened, though, is that the Populares or the Republicans spiral into cults of personality, and with the fall of the Roman Republic, the two parties failed, so you saw cults of personality, like Marius or Sulla or Julius Caesar or Augustus, et cetera.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But that led to, what, 200 years of empire?
unidentified		Yeah, I mean, the Romans controlled their entire known world for 600 years.
		And so you had a century of on and off civil wars.
		The thing to keep in mind with the ancient and medieval world is we'll read about a single century in a sentence and we'll forget that almost the entirety of someone's life was peaceful.
		So you had a century which was mostly at peace with several civil wars.
		Then you saw a shift from Rome being a republic to a military dictatorship.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you think that's what's going to happen to us?
unidentified		Yeah, I think so.
unidentified		I don't think America will be a democracy in the 22nd century, at least not a de facto one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's a long way for now, but what about in our lifetime?
		I mean, what are we going to call this?
		We're going to call this the Democrats or the Republicans?
		Do we call it the left and the right?
		In Rome, there were different words for those factions.
		Is whatever the right is going to win?
unidentified		Yeah, I think so.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What does that look like?
		What's your prediction?
		Like, what happens?
unidentified		So, right is going to beat the left because the left, I can't get over how much the left screwed themselves over ideologically.
		The left made a series of incredibly poor decisions that dooms their long-term strategic ability.
		In my opinion, the only way they can get out of this is by just devolving.
		into being a corrupt, pandering, nigh-communist organization.
		Which is the direction we're seeing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What were the mistakes?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Just real quick.
unidentified		Oh, kicking white men out of the coalition means they're going to kick out the vast majority of new talent that's going to develop.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
unidentified		Because when you look at outliers and statistical sets, the outliers tend to be white men.
		And with that, on top of it, They tear down anyone who is successful.
		In their own worldview, if you succeed, they're going to find some reason to hurt you.
		So they have no incentive towards success.
		They cannibalize all the future leadership.
		They have no internal standards.
		So they just purity spiral over each other.
		And they have no attachment to reality in their own worldview.
		They've just shot themselves in the foot.
		And I don't think they had to make those choices at the start of this century.
		They just did.
		So if we want to follow the fall of the Roman Republic parallel, and I'm simplifying the process, right wins, right spirals into warlords.
		One of said warlords transforms America from a democracy to a de facto military dictatorship, and that would happen 70 years from now.
		After 70 years of civil war, one of the leaders keeps the forms of the republic, but then it's really a dictatorship.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So right now in the short term, what can we expect to see?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is it going to be this prolonged street conflict, back and forth, political corruption for decades?
unidentified		That might happen in like a South American country, but Americans are too organized.
unidentified		When we want to kill each other, we'll do it on an industrial scale.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You're right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's so terrifying.
unidentified		It is.
		And so I think this, my read on this is the left is trying to escalate because they found a position where the right is at its weakest.
		I've been thinking they've wanted to escalate for a while.
		This is the spot where Trump and Elon's coalition has been split apart.
		Several things are concerning.
		The first is that these riots are operating on a quantum scale significantly larger than what we've seen before.
		And that goes unsaid, where there are thousands of American troops, National Guard troops in Los Angeles.
		The riots are large.
		I could get more into that, but the thing that this spread so rapidly to Phoenix and New York and across the country, Yeah, has to keep growing.
		There have been several spots where enough dominoes fell.
		I thought they would keep falling.
		So I can't talk about this individual situation.
		But a lot of dominoes are falling in quick succession.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think important context for people is that In the 1820s in the United States, there was talk about a civil war in the United States over the issue of slavery.
		And it took 41 years or around 40 years because, you know, conversations were over a decade before you actually got that full-scale war.
		But additionally, people need a lot of – your average person probably couldn't tell you what Bleeding Kansas was.
		You had seven years of territorial war.
		There's a movie clip I just saw.
		And it's a man comes on a train with a young black woman.
		It's the 1800s.
		And the conductor, or an attendant, walks over and says, ticket please, and that can't sit here.
		And the man says something like, I think you owe this young lady an apology.
		And then the attendant makes disparaging comments about the young black woman.
		The man stands up, looks at him, and another passenger tugs on the guy and says, that's John Brown.
		And then the attendant says, I'm terribly sorry.
		And the story they're telling, John Brown was a man who went around murdering anybody.
		I mean, anybody's a bold statement, but this is a guy who brought his kids to Kansas, walked up to people and blasted them in the face with a pistol.
		This is what we were seeing for years.
		And then you had, obviously, the raid on Harper's Ferry, where he ultimately got stopped.
		But people don't understand.
		I was reading an article a moment ago about...
		Seven states voted to secede, but in the United States, there's pro and anti-Trump in every state.
		As if they don't realize that Virginia was split 60-30.
		Many of these states were.
		So I'm wondering, just in this context and with your having read about all these other conflicts throughout history, is it—you know, you mentioned that it's largely like Rome.
		But do we— This is the most relevant information for the average person.
		What can I expect?
		What should I be doing?
		Am I going to be able to buy groceries?
		Will I watch movies?
		What's the immediate ramifications of this conflict?
unidentified		I'm going to lessen most of your worries by saying that if there is a war, the chances that you die are fairly low.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, thank God.
		Actually, me personally?
		I don't know.
unidentified		No, Tim, you'll be fine.
unidentified		Unless the left completely wins, you'll be fine.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I agree with that, yeah.
		As a lot of people on the right, even of not particularly a large merit, who are at risk if the left wins.
		Like a farmer, you know what I mean?
unidentified		Myself included.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		The thing with wars is that Life has to continue.
		You will still have to get groceries supplied, you'll still have to Netflix will probably still be up.
		Life will continue.
		And if you go to war zones, like I have a buddy who's in Armenia now, and he said it's a lovely country.
		He loves being in Armenia.
		But this place was at war very recently.
		but Armenians keep going.
		And unless you're a Zoomer male, your chances of dying in this war are relatively low unless you're in...
		So keep in mind that World War II, bloodiest war in history, killed 60 million people.
		The invention of malaria medicine and clean water has saved over a billion lives.
		So in the grand scheme of things, war doesn't kill that many people compared to disease and other things like malnutrition.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but to be fair, just a point.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		War is a lot of death in a short period, whereas malaria is a lot of deaths over a long period.
unidentified		I'm trying to give your audience will to live.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And I'm fighting you.
		You are correct.
		This is the funny thing, right?
		One of the talking points on Civil War, when people say it can't happen, they're like, I go outside and nobody's fighting.
		And I always say, like, people in Atlanta and the Civil War did not walk outside and fight each other.
		The front line was in Pennsylvania, was in West Virginia, was in Maryland.
		Virginia, if you weren't there, which is a tiny fraction of the country, you were not seeing these direct conflicts.
unidentified		I think that if there's a war now, the right has an almost near-complete certainty of winning.
		And everyone always thinks their side's more likely to win a war when a war starts.
		And then the reality of the human condition is messy.
		But the only advantage I could see Democrats having before was using the apparatus of government.
		But Trump is in power.
		The left is very clearly agitating.
		And what I'll say about your 20-year question is that there are too many trajectories that can't survive.
		Social security.
		Most cities in America are basically bankrupt.
		A lot of state governments are.
		Our currency is nigh worthless.
		Inflation is out of control.
		I think we'll have a war or, yeah, I think we'll have a war because we can't continue these trajectories.
		And once trajectories, if you look at a chart and it doesn't make sense, there's another trajectory that you're not noticing.
		So when you see all the charts and they all plummet towards something unsustainable, that's when historic shifts happen.
		And I think the left is going to lose, although I don't know what process that would take because, as I said before, they lack military Most men in the military are right-leaning.
		Most young men are right-leaning.
		Gun owners are right-leaning.
		The right has a centralized territory.
		It has the resources.
		It has the food.
		It has the electricity.
		It has the oil.
		And the only way I think a war like this could start would be the left is so deluded that they haven't put all those pieces together.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think it's funny when they kept making the argument, I suppose, in the last words in the Biden administration.
		When these articles pop up and they periodically do about civil war, they say, what are these fat rednecks?
		And they show a guy in a wheelchair with his belly sticking out.
		It's going to go up against the Marines.
		And it's just like the military is more right-leaning.
		I mean, it depends on the severity of how things go in this country.
		But yeah, right now Trump is in power.
		It would take only a handful.
		A small handful of military to cut off supply routes into every major city and bring them to heel should there be a conflict between these factions.
		If LA wants to riot and these truly grow out of control and then you have, let's say, 97% of the population of LA is in revolt against the US, against the federal authority, and the state and local governments start defying federal authorities, they just blockade the city.
		Nothing you can do about it.
		That's it.
		But I do think the interesting thing about whether the right or left wins, they have this ideological bent on the left that doesn't adhere to any kind of logical structure, wokeness.
		It's just to each other.
		And you mentioned that they've made a series of mistakes, like kicking out white men.
		The interesting thing about the conflict we're in right now is, I don't even know what we or the right or whatever is up against when they don't have a set of ideologies other than they're a mass of unruly riotous people.
		So it doesn't necessarily seem like you get to civil war.
		It seems like Trump goes in and just rigidly forces control in these liberal areas.
unidentified		I've been on a huge reading binge on the psychology of the French Revolution because I stumbled into a really smart 19th century.
		The French Revolution had a lot of really smart stuff written about it because there was over a century when Europeans were trying to figure out what happened.
		And the current ideology of the left is the same as the French Revolution, where if you looked at the political positions of French revolutionaries, Unlike Marxism, which is this set-up worldview with their incorrect religion and its complex theological structure, the French Revolution, it's just sort of incoherent ideas of let's get rid of the establishment.
		And there's this Overton window of people who want to get rid of religion and create the cult of reason, where in France they literally banned Christianity.
		The ideology of the French Revolution, it was Reddit atheism.
		It wasn't communism.
		It was these kind of vaguely understood concepts that we should liberate people.
		But the problem is that the French Revolution They thought that all of Europe would erupt into socialist revolutions, which is what they thought in the Russian Revolution, where it's difficult to not discount how delusional the left can be when revolution's on the line.
		They always think that the entire world's on the verge of global revolution.
		And from the interviews I was looking at from the Los Angeles protests, this seems highly Marxist.
		It was completely incoherent.
		The French Revolution could never form an independent government.
		It was always spiraling into civil war and internal issues, where France won because they had the best military in Europe, and then the military unseated the civilian government.
		And in America, we don't have the same dynamic where those kinds of people can seize power.
		And we also have our own competent military with its own trajectory like France did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and I think France was actually several revolutions, and in between that was an emperor.
		I believe after the first one, Napoleon was like, I can just take whatever I want.
		You know, these people are incoherent.
		That's what I see.
		There's a video of a guy yelling at National Guardsmen that's gone viral, and he's saying, you think you're so big with that assault rifle?
		You should be on this side.
		You know, you're on the wrong side of history.
		It's like you're saying, these people seem to think.
		You know, I'll put it this way.
		In order to be in a cult, you have to really think you're the center of the universe.
		And so these people are in this group being told they are the right side of history.
		They are the majority.
		Everyone agrees with them.
		And they really believe it.
		And I think they'll be in for a rude awakening because the average person just wants to watch UFC football and eat chicken wings.
unidentified		Yeah, you're completely right.
		And that's true on an unironic level.
		If you study the philosophers they pull thought from, like Hegel or Marx, they literally think progress is a god.
		The force of history is a god.
		And then the force of history demands greater equality.
		If you study leftist thinking, they actually say that.
		And so they do literally think that progress is a God, where if they follow the will of the God of progress, they'll get rewarded.
		But the problem with that is, I reject, they think by adding more assumptions, they're smarter, but they're actually stupider.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a viral video going around of Sam Tripoli.
		He was on Rogan's podcast two years ago.
		And he gets asked, you have a conspiracy.
		Joe's had to wait.
		What is it?
		And Sam says, all the gay pride stuff's going to go away.
		And we are going to see immigration riots right around the time of the election, 2024 election, because this is the Bolshevik war.
		Do you think?
		Is that fair to say that we have parallels with the Bolshevik Revolution and Bolshevik War?
unidentified		Of course.
		I mean, back in the 18th century with the French Revolution, there were thinkers in the French left who wanted to create a migration from Africa to conquer Europe.
		Where going back to the 1700s, leftists thinkers have wanted to create This was a pre-established part of leftist thought.
		And I mean, it's the same religion where leftism is a single religion with core beliefs that will replicate the same behavior.
		So it's completely reasonable to look to previous leftist revolutions.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It kind of sounds like that's what they're doing with mass migration.
unidentified		The left openly says all the things it believes.
		If you read the thinkers who took over the institutions like Gramsci or Foucault or Marcuse or these people, they openly say we are using these ideas to attain communism for the revolution to destroy Western civilization.
		We're just idiots for falling for it.
		This is all a pre-established plan they have now.
		But if it makes you folks feel better, the communists have lost.
		Their entire historic trajectory has been a failure.
		They might win a few more victories, but that will not stop.
		So if you believe you are on the right side of history, you will end up on the wrong side of history.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I guess what is the downside of, say, Trump goes into California.
		Let's say this escalates.
		The National Guard is there.
		Newsom is defying Trump.
		You've got this Democrat rep who says she's an illegal immigrant who obtained her citizenship, though, however, but that would make it fraudulent.
		Let's say Trump says citizenship revoked.
		We're arresting, you know, he arrests 10 million illegal immigrants.
		Not all, that's 20 million, but let's say he arrests 10 million, deports them all.
		Let's say he wins, solidifies government.
		Republicans then have, there's a shift in the electorate.
		Republicans now have a 20-seat majority.
		The Republicans are winning 70% electoral college vote for the next 10 years.
unidentified		What's bad about that?
		I mean, it's great for us.
		It's bad for them.
		And that's the calculus.
		Okay.
		The reason they're starting a war is they know that they're going to lose on the current trajectory, where their only strategy left is shameless race baiting.
		So they're trying to double down on shameless race baiting because And so they know they're in a desperate place.
		They know that companies are getting rid of them.
		They know the public doesn't believe in their concept of reality anymore.
		And so they're desperate.
		And every major industrial war was fought out of desperation.
		World War I was every country in Europe thinking the Industrial Revolution would mean they'd get crushed.
		World War II was Nazi Germany trying to conquer before Russia grew strong again.
		Civil war was the South knew that the North's industrialization would destroy them.
		So most wars in the industrial world stem from desperation, where I believe the left is in a desperate spot where they know they're going to lose.
		So they're trying to force the hand as a way to seize control of the institutions so that the right can't win.
		And the scary thing is that that strategy, it nearly worked in Europe.
		You look at Germany and France where they've done truly horrible things to the fairly moderate right-wing opposition parties.
		Canada.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've been arresting politicians.
		They've been declaring certain right-wing politicians ineligible to run.
		But I guess, you know, if you're predicting civil war comes the next few years, there is one thing to consider, and that's Strauss-How generational theory, which predicts that I think within one year, We should be entering a Syria—the fourth turning, they call it, should begin between 26 and 28, and it's supposed to be some kind of war or conflict.
		Eighty years ago, we had the World Wars.
		Eighty years before that, we had Civil War.
		Eighty years before that, it was the American Revolution.
		We are now 80 years on, and the expectation is next year should begin the spark.
		Do you think— You think within the next year or two, or maybe 2028, we actually have dividing lines, factions, something they would actually call a civil war?
unidentified		So last time I tried to have a time frame, it failed.
		So I am going to just say that within the next few years, I think we're going to have a war.
		And I think that within the next year is completely plausible.
		I stand by my original take.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's fascinating because I was talking about how during the Summer of Love riots.
		You had a guy in Manhattan in the Upper West Side filming himself walking around and everything was fine and normal.
		And he was like, oh, everyone's lying.
		Everything's fine.
		And you had made mention to this earlier that the front lines are usually small and isolated.
		There's not that many people who are fighting relative to the greater population.
		This is right now, I think, the excuse they're pushing, which is strange.
		Brian Stelter on CNN, he's saying, the videos you're seeing are from hours ago or yesterday.
		And it's just...
		I mean, this is happening.
		And I think it'll be a rude awakening for a lot of these people when they are told, oh, don't worry, the conflict is miles away.
		It's just a few hundred people fighting by the Capitol.
		And then a military base is taken over.
		A bunch of guys come out with guns.
		And then someone appears on the TV and says no one will be allowed to go outside anymore.
		And they're like, wait, how's it happening?
		I thought it was a small thing in the middle of nowhere.
unidentified		Yeah, that's how these things are.
		I mean, something I want to say again is in the left's moral code, it's completely permissible for them to lie.
		The left doesn't have a moral thing against lying because if it helps push progress, it's acceptable.
		So of course they're going to obfuscate and lie about it.
		But I mean, in historic empires, there's this constant story of that the emperor The emperor doesn't even realize that there's a war going on until the barbarians are scaling the walls.
		And that's happened at least several times in history, especially so in Asia, where the elites have so isolated themselves from reality and they've...
		dealt with this by building a higher wall between them and reality.
		But that's not going to work.
		Where it's crazy that our elite believes that this is the end of history, that agnostic social democracy is the endpoint of the human condition, where They should have just read John Rawls.
		And they should have just realized that agnostic social democracy is the highest system.
		But that's not how this works.
		Because in that worldview, they get to hold power forever and they never get to be held accountable.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Well, Rudyard, it's been a blast.
		Thanks for joining me and discussing all this stuff.
		Where can people find you?
unidentified		It's a pleasure, as always.
		You guys can check me out at What If Altist or my second channel, History 102.
		Thank you so much for having me.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for joining.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We'll see you next time.
unidentified		Peace.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That is Rudyard Lynch.
		Where am I at over here?
		He's a smart guy.
		He had this prediction about 1,000 deaths by April.
		He was wrong, and that's why he was saying my timeline was wrong before, so I'm going to be careful here.
		But I think what he's done right, what he's got right, is that looking at all of these historic conflicts, you see the parallels.
		I think the reality is...
		Predicting civil war is stupid when you're saying something like, in America, this is how civil war was.
		In the Bolshevik Revolution, this is how civil war is.
		In the French Revolution, in the Syrian civil war, in the Spanish civil war, blah, blah, blah.
		The reality is that humans have tendencies.
		And the reason why we see parallels all the time is because humans are actually somewhat predictable.
		People want food.
		If there's no food, they revolt.
		Kind of obvious.
		Leaders become lazy when Saidi grows fat.
		And so you have these stories of emperors, I believe it was China, where the guy, I forgot the emperor's name, he didn't even know he was under siege and at war until they had stormed the Capitol.
		We will see, my friends.
		I do agree.
		The right's going to win for a variety of reasons.
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