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Aug. 16, 2024 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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The Culture War #77 Migration Vs Brits, UK Clashes & Riots w/ Tommy Robinson, Milo, Don Keith, & Lisa Reynolds

Host: Tim Pool Guest: Tommy Robinson @TRobinsonNewEra (X) https://x.com/trobinsonnewera/status/1817184820151070917 Milo Yiannopoulos @Nero (X) Don Keith @RealDonKeith (X) Producers:  Lisa Elizabeth @LisaElizabeth (X) Kellen Leeson @KellenPDL (X) Connect with TENET Media: https://twitter.com/watchTENETnow https://www.facebook.com/watchTENET https://www.instagram.com/watchtenet/ https://www.tiktok.com/@watchtenet https://www.youtube.com/@watchTENET https://rumble.com/c/c-5080150 https://www.tenetmedia.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
All right, everybody.
tim pool
This is going to be a fun show.
It's a big show.
We've got huge news that's coming out of the UK with some of the worst riots they've seen, I suppose, in decades.
And there's crazy viral videos that are showing a bunch of British, I guess you'd call them British indigenous... All right, everybody.
This is going to be a fun show.
It's a big show.
unidentified
We've got huge news that's coming out... I think that's from Tommy.
tim pool
Oh, Tommy, that might be you.
unidentified
Oh, you know what?
It's Twitter.
tim pool
Oh, there it is.
Sorry about that.
Why can't I mute this?
milo yiannopolous
He keeps saying we gotta be careful, Tommy's no good with technology, over and over and over again.
How about that?
How about that?
tim pool
We've got these viral videos, there's like, I guess I'd call them British Indigenous that are upset over two-tier policing, and there's these crazy videos.
I saw one guy like waving his leg around, his prosthetic leg, and they gave him three years in jail or whatever.
Elon Musk is now tweeting about it.
So I'm trying to understand what's going on across the pond.
So we got a couple of British guys here, but we have Tommy Robinson joining us.
So we'll start with Tommy.
Do you want to introduce yourself?
tommy robinson
Hi.
I'll tell you what's going on, guys, is what I've realized and what I've known since the start of my activism, which the whole world is now seeing.
We do not have a justice system.
We have a legal system.
And when they put the target on anyone, they will use it to shut them up.
What the British state are currently doing, and they're weaponizing the judiciary for that, ...is to intimidate the entire British population to sit down and shut up whilst they're replaced, while violent jihadists are brought into the country.
Whilst we're sitting here now, a priest has just been stabbed walking out of a barracks in the Republic of Ireland.
Okay?
Are we even allowed to talk about it now?
That's the reality.
Are you allowed to utter your disgust at the fact that people are being brought into our nation that are hostile and violent?
I think the answer is, unfortunately, in Great Britain, no.
I've known this.
I've seen the manipulation, the weaponisation of the media, of the police, of all of it, since the entirety of my activism.
The world is now watching.
Many people are shocked.
Do you know the sad thing about all of this is?
If they would have dealt, since October 7th, one of the reasons the British public are so enraged is we've watched crime, calls for jihad.
We've seen Muslim leaders of Hizb ut-Tahrir, a prescribed terrorist organisation across the world, standing on the capital city of our country demanding Muslim armies for jihad.
And then we saw the Mexican police force come out and defend their right to say it.
Now we're seeing people in prison for gesturing aggressively towards the police.
We're seeing people imprisoned.
It's the insanity of these prison sentences.
But the reason for them, as everyone understands, is to intimidate.
This is our January 6th.
This incident, what you're witnessing unfold over the last seven days, The arrest and the imprisonment, within 48 hours sometimes, of crimes.
Where was the urgency to deal with the jihadists?
And again, all of the reasons people are angry.
Cars full of Muslims drove down from Manchester, they left Manchester, they come down to Golders Green in London, that's a four hour drive, to a predominantly Jewish community, and they screamed at the cars on tannoys, we will rape your daughters.
They faced no prosecution.
None.
All of these incidents, I could list hundreds and hundreds of them, are the reason that the British public were enraged anyway.
So when they've gone out on the streets, yes, some have committed crimes, but many have been imprisoned for not committing crimes.
One man, and I asked before if I could swear, one man shouted, Allah, Allah, who the is Allah?
He received 18 months in jail.
How can that be an 18 month prison sentence?
How?
How can calling for jihad not be a prison sentence?
How can organising the overthrow of democracy, which many Muslims are planning and openly sitting doing videos talking about, total enemies to this nation.
There's so many reasons why the public are enraged and the purpose of what you're witnessing now, the live TV show trials.
Where were the live TV show trials for the rapists and the Muslim men that raped our daughters across every town and city?
Where was the eagerness to deal with knife crime?
Where's the eagerness to deal with the jihadists?
We've got 40,000 jihadists on the terror watch list walking the streets of our country now.
They're walking the streets of our country and the British public who are enraged and saying a few mean words on Facebook are facing years and years in prison.
And you know the worst thing about this, what I feel for these people, I don't know if you've seen a video already of someone being chipped up, stabbed up in a prison in Manchester, The reality for each of these prisoners and normal people, these are working people.
These aren't hardline criminals.
They haven't lived a life of thuggery.
These are people who go to work nine to five every day, who are watching as their taxpayers' money is being spent, and they're not allowed an opinion on it.
And they're not allowed an opinion, and they're not allowed to say, we're not safe anymore, and we don't feel comfortable in our country anymore, because that's now being criminalized.
unidentified
Tommy, we're going to get into this.
That was a fantastic introduction.
milo yiannopolous
He's doing today what I did last time I was on.
I know what it's like now.
unidentified
That was good.
We'll get into that.
Are you going to introduce ourselves?
Did you tell anybody who you were for the people that don't know?
tommy robinson
My name's Tommy Robinson.
I'm a journalist from the UK.
I've been in prison multiple times for my journalism.
I've currently made a film that I face two years in prison for now.
That's where the UK is at.
Two years in prison for making a factual film that embarrasses and humiliates the government and their corruption.
So I've been an activist for 15 years.
I've seen through the thick and thin of all of this.
I started talking about two-tier policing in 2003.
So what the world is now witnessing I've seen it because the town I'm from, which is 30 miles north of London, when I was born in 1982 it had one mosque and now it's got 45.
I've seen everything the public can now see.
So that's who I am and I'm blessed to be here, Tim.
Thank you for having me on.
These are important discussions to have.
We are relying on people like yourselves.
The British public are relying and need people like yourselves and shows like this to have this discussion because we're losing our freedoms.
It's gone.
We're not losing them, we've lost them.
We've lost them and it needs to be a massive warning to America.
tim pool
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, Lisa was just talking, so you want to- Oh, okay, so fine.
unidentified
And for those who don't know me, I am Lisa Reynolds, Lisa Elizabeth on Twitter.
I book for this show.
But before that, I worked with Tommy.
So I helped- I was very heavily involved in organizing the free Tommy demos, and then I helped with their MEP campaign, and I've helped him with media over here in America, so we go way back.
I feel like he's my brother.
I love him so much.
I think that everybody should get to know him the way I know him, and that's why I'm here.
I can talk a lot about this.
tommy robinson
Your hair looks great, Lisa.
unidentified
Thanks, babe.
Yeah, I'm Don Keith, at real Don Keith on Twitter and Instagram.
I'm a social media content creator.
I'm a social media content creator and good friend of Tommy Robinson.
I also feel like Tommy is my brother.
I think anybody who meets Tommy Robinson feels like he's their brother.
Everybody wants to protect him and take care of him.
He's just that kind of guy, man.
milo yiannopolous
Well, I'm keenly aware that Tommy is not my brother, but I have sometimes wished he was.
You know, I'm Milo, and that doesn't matter today, but, you know, there's cause for, in all of this horror and misery, I think, great satisfaction and great hope.
Great hope from the fact that, you know, right at the twilight, when we just thought Europe was lost completely, you see some resistance from what you called the... Are we not allowed to say white anymore?
tim pool
No, you're allowed to say white.
milo yiannopolous
Okay.
From white Britons who are seeing themselves replaced, white working class people who have never done anything to anyone, and great satisfaction because, well if you're one of those people out there who poured scorn on Tommy Robinson and people like him,
If you're one of those people out there who scoffed and sneered and said he was overstating the case, if you're one of those people out there who said, oh, we can't stir up racial animus or Islamophobia or racial hatred, I hope you are squirming in your seats this week, last week and this month, and I hope you will be squirming in your seats for years to come, because everything that Tommy Robinson has ever said came true this month.
Um, and it's very satisfying to see it in all of this horror and I'm very, I'm very happy for him to have been so comprehensively and completely vindicated.
I think, um, and, and, um, I'll be quick.
Uh, and if I first lie, um, uh, and, and I especially, I have to tell you, Tommy, I love you.
I've especially enjoyed In the midst of all of the carnage, which shouldn't be understated and shouldn't be trivialised, the Daily Mail were getting very upset when they discovered Tommy sunning himself in a hotel in Spain.
And they managed to pull off this incredible feat of both being outraged at the fact that he was having a nice day, which somebody like Tommy is not supposed to be allowed to do, and also at the same time blaming him for violence on the streets of Britain as he was like, Savin' an oldie, mate!
The very satisfying and wonderful kind of dimension to a very miserable and unhappy month, but God love this man.
tim pool
So I've been trying to explain to some people the saga of Tommy Robinson, and it's kind of difficult because the history is absolutely crazy.
The simplest way, or the first thing I usually bring up is how they effectively tortured you, Tommy, when they locked you up in jail, you weren't getting fed properly.
But there's so much to break down as to what's going on now, why the media's blaming you despite the fact you're on vacation, not even in the country.
They really, the powers that be, hate you.
Can you explain to us what they've done to you and why you think they've done it?
tommy robinson
They hate me because I can galvanise people and bring them out.
And that's it.
That's why they hate me.
So they hate me because I'm from a class where we should be, we should just be silent and shut up.
And they've seen the ability, for example, on the 27th of July, we held a successful, peaceful rally, which was the largest gathering of British patriots our country's ever seen in one place.
We had 100,000 in Trafalgar Square.
We had a festival.
Everything they've tried to break, as in our culture, our identity, our pride in who we are, we've smashed straight back in their face, yeah?
We called it David versus Goliath and it was time for David to fight back.
Because they have taken everything from us.
And whilst they've done it, they've made us feel like we are part of a fringe movement, when in reality we're the mainstream.
There's more of us than there are of them.
More people, the majority of the British public are opposed to open border mass immigration.
The majority of the public have come out.
What they're trying to do now is put that cap back in its box.
And I knew straight away, remember this happened on the 27th of July, our rally.
On the 28th of July I travelled through the border.
I was detained under counter-terrorism legislation.
I had my phone seized.
I was sat down and told under the legislation that they gave me, you have no right to remain silent.
If you try not to answer any of our questions, you are breaching terrorism legislation.
So a bit like the Patriots Act in the United States, we have these terrorism, we have these problems go on.
They bring in all these laws to save us, apparently, to help us, and then they aim them at us.
And if you get in the way and you talk about anti-establishment, or you talk against immigration, or any of the narratives, the so-called narratives, transgenderism, you go against any of these, they will use and manipulate the law and target it on you.
So I was detained for six hours, I was questioned about my legal, lawful activity, where I had to answer everyone their questions.
Then they said they want the PIN code of my phone, and if I don't give them it, again, I'm breaching terrorism legislation.
I refuse to give the mere fact that I'm a journalist and I have sources of information on that phone who give me information against the establishment, against corruption, against the grooming gangs.
And unfortunately, due to the police's previous activity, for example, in the Rotherham grooming scandal, the police got rid of evidence.
In the Telford grooming scandal, the police were working with the gangs.
In the Rochdale grooming scandal, in every one of them, the police were co-opted and there was conspiracy of them to hide the reality of these cases from the British public.
So I refuse By the time I was released, there's been a stabbing, go on, and an attack, a horrific attack.
I don't even have a phone because the police have kept my phone.
So by the time I get to Spain, I go through France, I get released, I drive through France, by the time I get to Spain, demonstrations are going on the streets, and all of a sudden I saw that it's the English Defence League, Tim.
Now, this is something that everyone needs to look into, yeah?
There hasn't been an English Defence League for a decade.
There is no organisation called the English Defence League.
I should know, I started it, I founded it, and I led it until it's end.
I left in 2014.
There has not been a group.
So when I saw straight away them associate the English Defence League with what was concerned, angry British locals from the town of Southport, and so people can understand why they were so angry, I spoke to one uncle a couple of days later.
His niece was seven years old, and this man, who was a 17-year-old, who the police acted suspiciously in hiding all the information when this first happened, And I'll give you the backdrop to why people don't believe them, but this man walked in, grabbed a little girl by the hair, who was his niece, stabbed her straight in the face, took her bicep off, stabbed her in the body, thought she was dead, and dropped her.
He went on to the next girl.
Now this one man I spoke to, that was his niece, and on the other side of his family, the goddaughter was dead, who was stabbed seven times.
She was nine years old.
So imagine the anger and the frustration within this local community.
So they were all locals that come out.
It wasn't a national thing.
I hadn't advertised it because I didn't even know about it.
So this is all going on and all of a sudden the police have come out straight away and made remarks that this is the English Defence League.
And I'm watching this unfold, and then I see the Home Secretary talk about the need to prescribe the English Defence League, a non-existent organisation that doesn't have any members or is not active, as a terrorist organisation.
So straight away, at the start of this, I saw it being stuck on me.
I could see it straight away.
I thought, why are they blaming, and not just stuck on me, but what they've been successful in doing.
The British public took to the streets across the country in their anger at open border mass immigration.
Rather than the government have to accept this is the British public and they're angry, they've managed to put an ideology, a far-right branded ideology, behind all of it.
So every one of them are far-right racists and that has meant that they do not have to ...actually have a discussion on any of the reasons why the public are out and they're angry.
There's been no discussion on the man who murdered the three girls.
There's been no discussion on the man, so you understand, in this seven-day period.
A migrant sat outside an army barracks on his motorbike.
He'd been in the country six months.
As a soldier walked out of his house, he'd run over in full uniform and he'd run over and butchered him with a knife.
This was not a major breaking news in our country.
In fact, as we're sitting here now, I'll just explain, exactly the same has just happened outside an army barracks in Ireland.
Now when this happened, we were told it was mental health.
So the British public are watching.
Lots of things go on for years where we see lies being told by our government, lie after lie, and there's been so many of these cases.
And they hide the truth.
People now do not trust what the media say, they do not trust what the government say, or what the police say.
And there's good reason why they don't trust, whether it be the Covid situation, the vaccine situation, open border, Brexit.
We've seen them lie, continuously, to control the narrative.
He's getting blamed on the English Defence League.
And then I've watched, which Milo just spoke about, This is going on for days.
Every video, Tim, and every video, and I've done it, I'm so grateful I have X, because if I didn't have X, the whole world has been told that I orchestrated and organised attacks across the country against the Muslim community.
Total fabrication of the truth, total lies, it's put me and my family in danger, and certain so-called journalists like Piers Morgan.
There was a story for this Southport attack when it came out that someone said, or people were saying online, in fact Nigel Farage said, That the attacker was a failed asylum seeker from Syria.
I never said that.
I never shared that.
I always wait until I've got the facts and the truth.
So I didn't share that at all.
But yet somehow, and in fact I made videos saying, if you're burning things and you're attacking innocent police officers, you're a moron.
You're actually taking the legitimacy away from the people's frustration.
No one's going to listen to them while you behave like this.
So I make calls and whilst saying to the people, I understand your anger and your frustration, you have to control the youth.
These are young kids we've seen now.
Some of them were 15, 14, some of them were 12 that have been arrested.
These were young, angry, disenfranchised, neglected British youth who come out in their towns and cities in anger at what they see, is what I see as well, as an attack on our culture, an attack on our identity and the taking away of the freedom and the safety to our daughters and our wives.
Because attacks are going on from one end of our country to our other.
Women are being murdered.
Women are being raped.
Many of the times, as we see time and time again, even the Ariana Grande concert, the Muslim lad who blew up the Ariana Grande concert, who had been to Libya and back, his family were welcomed in as refugees.
Now, even when they come in as refugees, his father was a member of a terrorist organisation.
They've still got refugee status.
He then was allowed, he could recite the Qur'an without looking at it.
We keep getting told these people aren't Muslim.
He could recite the Qur'an without looking at it, OK?
And every time someone says Allah Akbar, we get told it's a religion of peace.
Every time there's a terrorist attack, we feel like we're gaslit every time.
And the truth is always hidden.
So, as I said, many of these things are going on.
But I just watched the whole thing over a seven day period has totally been blamed on me.
And no one's given an example.
Do you know what the Daily Mail?
The Daily Mail flew to where I was on holiday with my children.
milo yiannopolous
Didn't you fly them to Athens or was that Sky?
unidentified
He did that, yeah.
He was DMing someone.
milo yiannopolous
They were like, yeah, should we meet you up in Athens?
He's like, yeah, Athens tomorrow, mate.
He has a whole Sky crew fly over to Athens.
Yeah, we just landed in Athens, mate.
He's like...
In Spain!
unidentified
Do you know what I did?
tommy robinson
They doxed where my children were.
They actually put photos up.
I'm with my children.
They know there's death threats to my children.
This wasn't journalism at all.
This was an attack by the weaponised media in order to get me and paint me.
And it was this headline and this newspaper, the Daily Mail.
Let me explain why I know the Daily Mail is operated by the British government.
Totally operated by them.
I, in 2013 or 14, when I was leading the English Defence League, I set a meeting up with Theresa May.
She was our Home Secretary.
I set the meeting up in one of her constituents' names, yeah?
So, and instead of her constituent turning up, I turned up.
So I walked in, I sat down in front of Theresa May, I said, Hi, my name's Tommy Robinson, you know who I am.
She just sat there.
I said, let me show you something.
And I showed her a video of an English girl getting violently beaten, battered by about six or seven Muslims.
They were beating her and she said, I can't comment on this.
I said, the difference is you would comment on it, wouldn't you?
If that was a lady in a hijab.
If that was a girl in a hijab, six Englishmen beating her up, it'd be world news.
You'd be on the TV talking about Islamophobia.
That's the reality.
And what I was trying to address her with was the fact that her government were making certain policies, which was the Conservative government, but my Labour council were not implementing them at all.
My Labour council is an Islamic stronghold.
It doesn't matter what you say in government because it doesn't reach the stronghold that are Islamic.
So I was going through this.
By the time I finished that meeting, And this is how 100% it's controlled, yeah?
unidentified
100%.
tommy robinson
By the time I walked down to the end of the road, Breaking News Daily Mail, Tommy Robinson ambushes Home Secretary Theresa May.
And it was her way of getting out of the fact that I just had a 20 or 30 minute meeting with her.
So there was no journalist that could have known that.
Literally, Theresa May must have wrote that article, yeah?
It's a fact.
When I watched the Daily Mail run this story against me, this story and the front page picture was replicated by every other journalist and then commentators like Piers Morgan just saying Tommy Robinson incited violence, instigated attacks against the mosque.
They've got nowhere... Joe, the Daily Mail said that the reason I had inflamed the situation and they gave an example of a tweet and my tweet said mass deportation is needed.
So you've took me saying mass deportation is needed.
I'm not going to apologise for that.
Mass deportations are needed.
These people have come through 16 safe countries.
They're economic migrants.
They're flooding our nation.
They're in every hotel across our country.
They're raped in so many different hotels have come and raped.
We've seen acts of terrorism by them.
There are mass deportations needed to get control and to save a future for Europe.
We need mass deportations.
That's inflammatory.
And it's certainly not inciting violence or instigating violence, certainly as Piers Morgan sat on TV.
Now, the consequence of this is everyone has been told by the entire weaponised media that I've led and instigated these attacks.
The reality is I've called for no violence.
I wasn't even in the country when they first... I didn't even have a phone when they first started.
It's just all been landed on my lap.
Now, why do I think that is?
Because my reach through X is now billions, 1.5 billion in three months.
I managed to put 100,000 people on the street, which was a total diverse crowd.
They want, you see the scenes you've seen this week, or the last couple of weeks of people wearing masks and writing, that's what the government want.
They don't want a sound, a responsible voice of people against immigration, because then they have to listen to it.
So their way of getting rid of me, which is what they've tried to do, if you're looking at people getting these prison sentences, what do you think they're going to do to me?
milo yiannopolous
What you're describing should be ringing a lot of alarm bells for the US, but it should also be reminding them of things.
Things keep going off in the back of my head as you're talking.
People sometimes ask why these Brits, these British commentators are coming to America and telling us what they think about our politics.
Well, we come here because you guys have a grave responsibility.
Listen to what Tommy just described and tell me that the British government didn't learn this stuff from the Americans last year and the year before that, right?
This is absolute, this is templatized.
this is precisely and exactly down to the fine details what the American government has been doing to Trump supporters what the American government did on January 6th is down to the precise technicalities the British government has cloned that technique and is using it against its own citizens now up until probably this year I don't think there's a government anywhere in the world and I'm including China Russia and everywhere else that has abused lied to gaslit experimented upon and been in
you know it's sort of abusive relationship with its citizens like the American government There's the CIA experimenting on people and not telling them.
There's a systematic lie.
But the way in which the state was weaponized against its own citizens, you never saw that in Europe until this year.
You did not see the intelligence agencies and the government and the media and the public sector, meaning charities and universities, marching in lockstep to a plan with a strategy to destroy the will and to remove the voice.
tommy robinson
That's what this is.
milo yiannopolous
Right.
You didn't see them marching in lockstep with a pre-planned strategy to destroy the will, confidence, and the opportunities for, and the potential for, the spirit and the joy of their own people.
You saw it in America for decades.
I mean, America's been doing this for decades.
This is why the country here is so demoralized.
But think about the responsibility you have here in America because other governments see what goes on here and they do it too when it works.
They saw January 6th, they saw those grandmothers going into jail, and they saw people, just ordinary Trump supporters in there, you know, big flags, and you know, somebody got carried away and carried out podium, who cares?
But they watched it, and now they're all doing it.
And that's why people come here.
That's why, you know, that's why I'm here.
It's why a lot of people, because what happens in this country really matters.
It ripples out everywhere.
And what's just happened to the people who love Tommy, and the reason they're afraid of him is that You know, you can hear from Tommy's accent and my accent, we come from slightly different places in the country, right?
And we have slightly different backgrounds, just a little bit.
But Tommy has the most exquisite and powerful persuasive verbal IQ, like he's such a brilliant, a brilliant communicator.
He's incredibly motivating.
I went to one of his rallies and by far the best speaker of all of us was him.
And there's something about him that just gets people excited.
And that's why they hate him.
And his supporters and his fans, which is really the vast majority, if not all, of the British white working class public, who are now the victim of a A strategized, pre-planned campaign to rob them of their futures.
Right?
unidentified
It's the same across the West, though.
And, you know, I was just listening to his story about Theresa May.
And the reason you don't see it on the media, and the reason you don't see politicians talking about it, because you can't decolonize Western civilizations if you show them the brutality of the folks they want to bring in and replace you with.
You know, it's happening all across the West.
It's the same exact system.
And it's no coincidence that it's happening globally.
milo yiannopolous
But there's a formula for it now, is my point.
They've got the roadmap to taking a legitimate and, if anything, long overdue.
I mean, isn't it amazing that the native populations have taken this long to say anything?
That's Christian forbearance for you.
tim pool
Have you guys seen Tucker Carlson when he was asked by that journalist in Australia?
About Great Replacement Theory, and the journalist says to Tucker, you claimed white people are being replaced, and he's like, I never said that.
He said Americans are being replaced.
And he said the interests of black Americans are the same as the interests of any other American.
They're bringing in non-citizens into this country.
So there is a bit of a difference, however.
milo yiannopolous
We agree that Hispanics are the problem.
I'm glad about that.
unidentified
There's a bigger issue.
tim pool
But real quick, I just want to point this out.
The United States is a conquered land.
White European settlers, as well as many other groups, came here and basically built lives and built infrastructure here.
Europe's very different.
The indigenous populations of Europe are white people.
And so what's fascinating is... And they're ancient.
milo yiannopolous
And they are ancient, absolutely.
Thousands of years, not just 250, 350.
tim pool
It's fascinating when you see in the United States this talk of indigenous rights.
And of course, we're talking about Native Americans.
If someone from Britain, France, or Germany made the same point about indigenous rights, they're called white supremacists.
milo yiannopolous
They could only be making that argument from the point of view of Tommy supporters.
That's the only meaningful indigenous population there is over there.
But yes, that's the thing.
America is where the global elites perform their experiments, both on people and economically and in every other way because the American population has been primed for it now.
America is where they try stuff out on people.
If it works, it ripples out to all of the rest of the Western nations and then out further if it works there too.
And what's really chilling to me is watching, like I said, the fine templatized details of what happened on January 6th.
unidentified
Well, that's getting worse.
And I'll tell you what, you guys just in the UK, we had one of your activist judges, right?
They just said that for people caught up in the riots, and I don't know if that means just being there, pushing a bin, whatever.
Hello to a police officer.
Yeah, exactly.
Instead of charging them with disorderly conduct, Which has a maximum sentence of up to five years.
Now they have it.
They want to charge them with rioting, which has a maximum up to 10 years.
So you're going to have somebody, a kid, out of the 700 people that were arrested, 50 of them were children under the age of 18.
And so what they're trying to do is what they did with January 6.
And we're going to, we want to scare you as much as possible so that you never come out and do this again.
And that's because they have a disdain.
You guys have a class system, but to think that the elites don't hate There's a political dimension to this too.
Or any working class for that matter.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
And they don't want to-- they don't care about what the working class people think.
milo yiannopolous
There's a political dimension to this, too.
This is why you shouldn't vote for left-wing parties and why you shouldn't vote for right-wing parties who enlarge the size of the state like George W. Bush did.
Because the purpose of bureaucracy, the reason it exists is not to give useless people jobs, although it does do that.
The purpose of bureaucracy is to provide an enormous and complex system of rules that are not all enforced at once but can be strategically applied when the ruling classes desire it.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
milo yiannopolous
The purpose of bureaucracy is for an enormous and impenetrable incomprehensible web of rules and laws that can be turned on people at will And targeted at individual demographics and individual bits of the population in order to affect the will of the elites.
Everything that Tommy's talking about that happens to his people, that happens to, I mean, you know, Muslim rape gangs, I think, know no class barriers, but it typically happens in working class white communities to these young girls because they're more vulnerable, because they're more available.
You know, everything that happens there is Being punished now by an elite that wants, that needs new workers.
It's, you know, it's this capitalism on trammel that just wants to replace the workforce and doesn't care about, you know, the decaying morals and optimism and Christianity and the like.
This is all economics, all economics.
And the bureaucracy they've created, it's a little bit like, you know, like Walmart loves regulation about food because they're the only people who can keep up with it, right?
It pushes the little guy out.
So in Europe, one of the things that has always been a problem is the over-regulation of things.
But then you notice, well actually life's not getting dramatically worse just because they said that you can't put sugary kids cereal on the middle shelf.
Kind of a silly rule, but it seems okay.
But the net effect of this stuff over time, of voting for governments and for politicians who want to do more, build more, enlarge more, engorge more when it comes to the size of a government.
is that the purpose of this is not to help black people, to help women.
Well, no, the purpose of this is to build a bureaucracy that you can then level against your enemies in the most terrifying.
It's like having a huge arsenal of like 50,000 different kinds of weaponry, all of which can go at a moment's notice.
unidentified
Speaking of jobs.
milo yiannopolous
That's what it is, and that's where we now are there and here.
unidentified
Part of the reason that the working class feels so unheard is that, A, they've had these concerns for a while.
They voted a million times to stop immigration.
But did you know that like over since COVID, the UK has had like, I think it's 700,000 some new jobs, but 75% of them went to migrants?
milo yiannopolous
Yes, because they are willing participants in this new system because, you know, they're perfectly happy.
unidentified
Of course they're going to be angry.
tim pool
I think if you want to homogenize an economic bloc like the United States and Europe, you need to level its cultural identity.
And so, yeah, Tommy, if you want to chime in.
tommy robinson
I'd say the reason that everything you're witnessing now is because the elite, those above us, saw that we'd reached as a movement way past the working class.
We'd penetrated middle class.
That's true.
We had support from everyone.
And I truthfully believe Britain was, and still is, on the verge of a cultural revolution.
Anyone who comes to our last two demonstrations, the first on the 1st of June with 30,000, the second with 100,000.
If there's 100,000 people on the streets who have travelled there, to get our supporters to travel is hard anyway financially, but they've travelled there.
We had nearly a million people watching live online.
milo yiannopolous
The Mail says you're inciting a coup now.
They say you're taking over the government.
Colour Revolution, Tommy Robinson is taking over the government.
tommy robinson
That's what it was.
And again, the reason why they've come for me so bad is, three years ago, and this is important, it's important for me because I'm going to, you can play this video back, I will be locked up in prison before Christmas for a film.
Now that film has had 44 million views.
Now, previously, before Elon Musk, they could just make these videos, they could use the media, they could use Piers Morgan, they could tell the public what to think.
Not anymore, unfortunately.
When I showed their lies, and essentially this film has had 44 million views in a number of weeks, and it totally shows, if any of you thought, it's far bigger than the Tommy Robinson story, it's what they've done to Steve Bannon, it's what they've done to Donald Trump, it catches it start to finish, and it humiliates the corruption of the judiciary.
We don't know exactly that.
I've never been tried by a jury.
I've never ever been tried by a jury.
That's bonkers.
And when you watch these sentences being handed out against people who we now know have done nothing, one man, an ex-member of our armed forces in Plymouth, went to a demonstration, he gestured, they just gave him 18 months in jail.
The judge when sentencing him said, why is he here?
He said, I'm sorry, but I've got to send you to prison.
We've got to send everyone to prison.
No, the judge is meant to base it on evidence and facts.
Not every judge has been told that these people must be sent to jail.
Why?
To send a message to the rest of the British population.
You need to shut up.
So an ex-member of our armed forces who served our country, what this shows everyone is there isn't a justice system.
It shows the politicisation, the weaponisation of the judiciary.
My film, if anyone's watching this, including the hosts here, Tim, if you can, everyone here, Please share it.
Take the time to watch it and comment on it because I will face jail for it.
I do face jail now.
And the timing, so, and just to set the record straight on the timing of this, I made this film years ago.
Three years ago I was taken to court and I was given an injunction prohibiting me from sharing the film.
Now I failed myself and I failed everyone else.
I failed my job as a journalist.
My job is to expose corruption and expose it No matter what the costs are, yeah?
But I was scared.
I was scared of a two-year prison sentence, which is what the judge warned me of, by showing the public what had happened in court.
By showing them the evidence, I was warned and threatened with two years in prison.
Prison for me, our British prisons are an ISIS training camp.
That's exactly what they are.
Every prison is taken over.
To be honest, you can go back to when I first spoke about this 15 years ago, they didn't listen.
Now we've got government reports and studies basically saying Islam's out of control within the prison system.
It's one almighty gang.
Nothing can compete with it.
So Muslim gangs control every single prison in our country.
So I was scared, so I didn't show that film.
Two years ago, that film was leaked in the United States.
It was leaked two years ago.
They didn't come for me.
They didn't come for me.
unidentified
Goodness, how awful.
tommy robinson
I hold one demonstration in the UK.
Two years later, I hold one demonstration and they come for me.
They then send a letter saying that they're preparing the charge of contempt of court.
Contempt of court is the only charge in the UK where you can go to prison for two years without having a jury.
So again, there's so much that plays into what you're currently witnessing, but I'd say the sole reason for it is to break down.
I remember talking at Intrafalgar Square with 100,000 people saying what you're seeing right now is the British spirit is awake.
They're attempting to break that British spirit.
milo yiannopolous
That's exactly what I said was hopeful at the beginning of this, you know, everybody talks about Europe.
I went back to the UK a couple of years ago, and I don't plan to go back anytime soon, not being an Arabic speaker, but I saw the grey, drawn, like, haggard, it's Tommy that keeps going back and keeps fighting, I'm the coward, I'll just go to America.
But, you know, the grey-drawn cowed countenance of the British public.
But something happened.
Just before the sun went down and everything went black forever, a little flicker of hope just began.
Like this month.
Just this month.
And it's necessary.
You know, it's necessary.
January 6th in this country.
Horrible for many people.
One of my best friends, I'm the godfather to his son, is in jail now for years for lighting up a cigarette in the Capitol.
It's necessary.
It's necessary.
And we talk about the corruption of the judiciary.
This is, you know, even more, I think, even more urgent here where you don't have America sort of founded in this dreadful kind of, you know, Reddit hissy fit in 1776.
Oh, we're playing serious.
No, tech station without representation.
Shut up.
unidentified
I almost wore my 1776 shirt today, but I didn't want to finish it.
tim pool
That is a gross oversimplification.
Let's talk about the revolution.
milo yiannopolous
How depressing and ghastly.
And what happened is they ripped out the heart of the English constitution and the English system and didn't replace it with anything.
So, you know, you've got God and King both taken out.
And the edifice becomes shakier, you know, because it's all tending towards something that doesn't exist anymore.
And instead you have this sort of piece of paper The point is that the judiciary in this country is the ultimate authority, right?
And so when the judges become corrupted in America, that's as high as it goes.
The highest authority in this country is the Supreme Court.
They decide who the president is, right?
So there is hope now in Britain because we didn't make the mistake of 1776 and elevate the law above all other authorities and we still have respect.
We have a monarch.
And we still have God-enshrined, you know, an established church.
There's hope for Britain, because we don't have to obey the corrupted and corruptible and long-since-bought-and-paid-off judges.
unidentified
But your monarch just congratulated Keir Starmer for locking up all of your citizens.
tim pool
So the clarification, I think is very important, is it's the awakening, it's the confidence of the people of Britain.
And as Tommy pointed out earlier, When they get videos of people acting violently, they use it to propagandize and diminish the fact that, at a fundamental level, the regular guy walking down the street to go buy a ham sandwich, in his mind, is saying something is not right.
When someone goes and throws a brick, they scare people with that and say, this is why you must give us control.
Weak-willed people fear this propaganda manipulation.
unidentified
So the hope, I would say, is that- I'm not allowed to express my opinions on this show about violence.
tim pool
Violence is bad.
Violence is used as a tool to propagandize people into fear.
milo yiannopolous
If you say so.
unidentified
Well, you're exactly right, and that's the whole reason that they had to accuse Tommy of inciting the riots after he was not involved with organizing everything that took place after Trafalgar Square and after Parliament Square in June, because Tommy organized rallies of 50,000 in one, 100,000 in another, and they were all completely peaceful.
And what happens... Joyful.
Yeah, exactly.
And the day after he organizes these rallies, they arrest him.
People come out to see him.
milo yiannopolous
They're singing and they're happy.
unidentified
Yeah, it's amazing.
milo yiannopolous
And this is, you know, I speak regularly to a number of Members of Parliament in the UK and they're frightened of him because people like him, because he makes people happy.
He makes them feel like it might be alright tomorrow.
unidentified
Singing Sweet Caroline all day long.
milo yiannopolous
He makes people feel like maybe tomorrow will be okay.
And that's not alright.
It's only politicians that are supposed to get to do that.
You know, that's why they don't like him.
unidentified
If he actually enjoys being around them.
He's a threat to them.
tommy robinson
Do you know why our demonstrations weren't violent?
Because we had control in the sense that we made it clear to all of our men coming, if anyone turns up wearing all black and a face mask, if anyone does, and you can watch through the British riots at the hotels, and you'll see five or six people dressed exactly the same starting it and smashing all the windows in, yeah?
So was it planned?
Is it a government plot?
They couldn't do that at our demonstration because we had tough men from football clubs across the country all singing off the same hymn sheet.
We made it clear.
We had meetings with all the leaders of all the different clubs and said if anyone turns up wearing masks, take their masks off.
So then the ability to infiltrate our movement on that day was gone.
Because they would have known our people, British men, would have turned straight against them.
If 10 men would have turned up wearing balaclavas, 100 men would have jumped on them.
From our men.
We didn't need the police.
We told the police very evidently, which is why you had two very successful demonstrations.
We took the ability for infiltration out of their hands.
They couldn't do what they'd done on January 6th.
It was impossible.
milo yiannopolous
That's a product of a dormant courage.
That you and some people like you, but mostly you, have awakened in the British population that is still dormant in America.
I think the majority of the male population in America is trapped in a kind of addicted It's our food.
It's a variety of addictions.
It's not just consumerism and food and prescription drugs and video games.
unidentified
It's the entire fabric.
milo yiannopolous
The fabric of this country is designed to demoralize and to frighten its crazy making.
Everything about this country is crazy making.
And I think that courage that's been awakened by Tommy and by people like him in Britain is still dormant in America.
You don't see it here.
People are afraid here.
I've always, I've said for a couple of years...
Well, it is contagious.
It's why everybody's got to watch this stuff.
Because something has got to happen if you want to continue to have a country here to wake the men up.
Because the women in this country are far more impressive than the guys.
You know, the women in this country are the ones who are on the front lines of the pro-life movement.
It's the women here are the ones who are taking the risks.
The men in this country are, frankly, by and large, Utterly pathetic.
unidentified
Well, there's a big difference.
In your country, you still do that old school protest in the street.
We don't do that here, you know, at least as far as the right.
But you're conservatives in your country.
You still get out in the streets and you still raise your voices and you protest.
milo yiannopolous
Not really.
Only because of him and only in the last couple of years.
unidentified
I feel like there's demos all the time.
Well, you have Preacher's Corner and things like that.
tommy robinson
Don, as an American coming over for those two demonstrations, Don, you come over knowing nothing about what's happening in Great Britain.
What was your view of what you saw happening in Parliament Square and Trafalgar Square as an American?
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
Well, the first thing I want to say is when they tried to say that you were inside, I had to laugh because I was the only American who was part of the setup and the entourage from the morning at eight o'clock in the morning till the evening when that thing ended.
I saw exactly what Tommy did.
To make sure everything was 100% peaceful, he had 150 stewards, he had 50 security, and his directions to everyone that very morning, if you see stewards, if you see anyone getting out of line in any way, you motion for security and immediately, and there was like one guy who had had a little much to drink and immediately they motioned.
Security went over and took care of the guy.
They got him out of the crowd.
There was absolutely no violence.
So when the UK government says Tommy Robinson is inside, you had 100,000 people in one row, you had 50,000 in another.
Not one punch thrown.
milo yiannopolous
And not one punch thrown.
unidentified
If he was going to incite some violence, wouldn't he have taken an army of 150,000 people and done it then?
Isn't that hopeful too?
milo yiannopolous
Isn't that hopeful, too?
And doesn't it just speak to the... They've got the money, they've got the guns, they've got... They've got all the surveillance technology.
Doesn't it just speak to the incompetence, the hopelessness of the government, that he's better at it than they are?
Isn't that a little cause for hope as well?
This guy is better at... Outsmarted, you know, all the apparatus... It's rather hopeful, isn't it?
tim pool
This rally that you did, rallies like it, where people, while you're keeping things peaceful, this is important because culture is well above politics.
We have, as Milo correctly pointed out, bureaucracy is to create this gigantic web that you as an individual cannot navigate.
Show me the man and I'll show you the crime.
So they make everything illegal and then pick and choose.
milo yiannopolous
That's what's happening in California.
That's the real reason that companies are moving out of California.
Because you can't innovate anymore because they've basically legislated everything into a forbidden illegality.
The state government in California has made it impossible to invent new things because everything is banned now.
tim pool
When you control the culture, it doesn't matter what laws they put in place.
We have blue laws.
tommy robinson
That's what we've been saying.
Change the culture, change the politics.
We can't win it politically.
We realized that in the UK when reform got four and a half million votes and they got five MPs and the Liberal Democrats got three and a half million votes, they got 70 MPs.
Everyone was excited because reform got five MPs.
The pro-jihadists got five MPs.
Pro-independent jihadists.
Pro-Hamas.
milo yiannopolous
There's a difference between British and American working classes, which is if you were to watch something like The Only Way is Essex on an interview, the guys in that show don't know who the Prime Minister is.
They don't know who the Prime Minister is.
Whereas over here, you can go to a trailer park and everybody has a sophisticated opinion on Lyndon B. Johnson.
You know, it's something that every American is... But this is a problem, because it means that they all have faith in that system.
They all think that there are exclusively political solutions to the problems that they face, and there are not.
tim pool
There are not.
Ron Paul said that abortion shouldn't be illegal, it should be unthinkable.
And that's a great point, broadly, that you can make something legal or illegal, but if the population culturally does or does not tolerate it, then law enforcement...
milo yiannopolous
In a sense, he's the most perfect American in that regard because what happened when America ripped out the heart of its own, you know, body politic in 1776, and Adams said this, you know, the Constitution is wholly unsuited to the government of any other population than a moral and religious people.
What does that mean?
It means that the extraordinary freedoms that Americans enjoy, the First and the Second Amendment, only work if everyone's Christian.
That's literally what it means.
Moral and religious people in that century meant Christian.
And freedom of religion in this country was only really meant to stop wars between Protestants.
It was only really meant to stop internecine fighting among different Christian denominations.
And so Ron Paul is exactly correct because You can't let people say whatever they want and own whatever firearms they want without the restraining influence of a pervasive Christian morality.
And that's what we're talking about when we talk about culture.
And so when he says, you know, it should be illegal, it should be unthinkable, that's only possible in a Christian country.
And if you deliberately import people who are not Christian, who do not practice Christianity, who do not share in those values, when we say Western values, we're not talking about freedom, we're not talking about democracy, we're not talking about capitalism, we're talking about Christianity, Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Correct.
milo yiannopolous
Right?
If you import people who do not practice that form of pious, self-effacing, restrained Christianity, these countries don't work.
tim pool
I think people don't understand the difference of worldview from people in the East and the West, and you've got a lot of naive liberal types in the United States who think everyone thinks the same as me.
And then they're surprised to find that in, I can't remember what, Tom you'd probably know this, there was a bunch of Muslim protesters over LGBT curriculum in schools, and leftists showed up to find them.
unidentified
It was in Dearborn.
tim pool
No, no, in the UK.
milo yiannopolous
In Britain, it's Muslim parents who got rid of the trans stuff in British schools and the left were like, what are you doing?
You were supposed to be on our side.
I had no idea what to do with it.
tim pool
Yeah.
And yeah, Birmingham, that's right.
unidentified
Okay.
tommy robinson
And do you know what?
Here's the problem.
So when those Muslims protested, the headlines said they were extremists.
This is the media again.
The headlines said they were extremists.
So I looked into them.
I found nothing extreme in what they were saying.
At all.
I travelled to the Muslim lad's house in Birmingham, the organiser.
I knocked on his door and he opened his door and went...
What are you doing here?
He invited me in.
It was the most surreal experience I've had.
He invited me into his house and his wife gave us dinner with her arm around the door because you weren't allowed to see her face, obviously.
And he was a very nice gentleman, yeah?
A very nice gentleman.
And I went through and I looked up the woman who had created the policy in that school.
I went back years and found that what she'd said is, because they were saying this was about tolerance, it's got nothing to do with tolerance, what she said is we must smash heteronormativity in schools.
So we must smash.
So this is a woman with an ideology that she's now pushing on children.
The reason the Muslim parents got upset, and do you know what they've done to silence the Muslim parents?
Because again, one weapon they've brought in is the Islamic community, but then now this Islamic community are going against one of their other weapons, which is LGBTQ+.
So, the Muslim parents weren't extreme.
They were concerned parents because one of the boys came home and said, Dad, I can be a girl.
And the parents said, no you can't.
And do you know the headteacher of this school was gay.
None of the Muslim parents in that school had kicked off because the headteacher was gay for years prior to this.
There'd been no concerns by the parents about his sexuality.
And I'll defend this Muslim community because I looked into all this.
I looked at all of it.
The headlines said they were all radicals.
The headlines said they were extremists.
They weren't.
They were concerned parents.
Do you know what they've done?
You know the High Court, which is the court that's now doing me?
They gave out High Court injunctions banning the parents from going anywhere near the school to protest.
So when they started protesting, they used the courts and the system to block them and say they'd be imprisoned.
milo yiannopolous
They threatened to take the children.
It's another shaft of sunlight because we're finding now that in these, you know, whether it's minority wars or whether it's minorities behaving badly, I mean for 15 years in Europe and for 10 years here, white gay men have voted solidly Conservative or Republican, right?
Because they've been thrown out off the progressive flotilla.
Their whiteness and their maleness trumps their gayness and this is very encouraging because it means that the coalition of marginalized communities is falling apart.
It's failing and so these Islamic parents got Lumped in with troublesome working-class white Christians, as far as the system was concerned.
And the system then dispatched antibodies to deal with them as though they were, right?
This is very helpful.
tim pool
It is fascinating that they called these, these are religious conservative or fund, like non-radical parents are... Expressing views that Christian parents should be doing.
unidentified
But they're called radicals by the media!
milo yiannopolous
It's because they were just kicked off into the problem bucket, and antibodies were dispatched, and the more this happens, the better.
I mean, I take some responsibility, and it's not an unqualified pleasure, I take in it, for this sort of gay conservative thing in America.
In most respects, it's pretty awful.
But I can't find a white gay man on Twitter that's voting for Kamala.
Pete Buttigieg.
unidentified
That's an easy one.
milo yiannopolous
I don't know if they count, there's sort of these weird sexless dolls, that couple, aren't there?
And also, anyone... Actually, that's interesting, because you've got this, not to get into the gay stuff, but you have this sort of split between homosexuals who are trying to live this grubby, grotty, ghastly simulacrum of life by buying other people's children.
You know, Dave Rubens, it's the most stomach-churningly disgusting thing a human being can do.
to rest a child from its mother, to pay money to that child's mother.
And then, okay, thanks, love.
Off you go.
And then to raise this child in this sick and revolting environment.
But you've got these, and Buttigieg does the same thing, bought both as kids.
You know, you've got this horrible, disgusting thing happening over here.
I like Dave Rubin.
Huh?
I'm exploring.
unidentified
Dave Rubin.
milo yiannopolous
No, no, I'll tell you what, I'll tell you one thing.
I like Dave Rubin.
I'll tell you what.
Nobody dropped me like a hot stone faster than Dave Rubin in 2017.
He was the person who stopped returning my calls first.
That man is not only a coward, but he is now a trafficker of babies.
- No, no, no, that man is not only a coward, but he is now a trafficker of babies.
A child trafficking coward.
But anyway, we can move on.
The white gay men who still want to be a little bit dissident or independently minded or have their own views about things, they're all voting right-wing now and they've all been kicked off the progressive flotilla.
unidentified
So I think we should encourage... Same thing's happening with black men too, I think.
milo yiannopolous
Yeah, right.
I think the Democrat Party and black Americans are family and I think only idiots try to get in the way of family.
I think it's a dysfunctional, abusive relationship, but I think they're family and I think that's all there is to it.
Certainly now and again, you do see some very pleasing sights.
You know, when in Chicago lately, when there was a large group of black protesters outside, and the speakers were saying, were asking to see the audits from the local government about where the money was going, because their communities were suffering, their schools were being shut down, but all of the immigrant, migrant communities were getting new schools, and they were all in nice hotels, and all the rest of it.
And you saw a black Americans asking a Democrat local leadership for the books.
I want to see the books!
unidentified
I think it's breaking down is my point, you know, the progressive kind of blob is breaking.
I was in Philly yesterday.
milo yiannopolous
I think it's breaking down is my point.
You know, the progressive kind of blob is breaking.
unidentified
I was in Philly yesterday filming street videos with James, and there were black men that were registering people to vote, paid for by Democrats, and we interviewed them, and they were voting for Trump.
tim pool
Wait, what?
milo yiannopolous
I swear to God!
I don't believe this.
Look, Candace Owens, when she did that thing in Atlanta, when she did her Blexit thing, like 98% of the crowd were bussed in, right?
They weren't even real.
The idea that there is, look it up.
The idea that there is some enormous groundswell... No, when black people go through this sort of republicanization machine and come out dressed like this and sounding ridiculous, you know, they completely... I'm telling you they were.
No, no, no, I don't believe it.
unidentified
No, no!
milo yiannopolous
I don't believe it.
The reason Candace Owens was so mad when she tried to get me fired I don't think it's possible to be a black conservative.
I don't think it's a real thing.
with Yeh, she lost her only black fan.
She lost her only black fan.
No, there's no, I don't believe the black conservative thing.
I think black, I don't.
unidentified
I don't think it's all of them, but we have definitely.
milo yiannopolous
I don't believe in America it's really possible to be a black conservative unless you are like from Nigeria or something or African.
I don't think it's possible to be a black conservative.
I don't think it's a real thing.
unidentified
They were saying.
milo yiannopolous
It has never, ever, ever panned out in elections.
Everyone makes.
tim pool
I was right though.
unidentified
Well he's right about that.
milo yiannopolous
Everyone makes an enormous fuss about it ahead of time, they throw loads of money at charlatans like Candace, and it never, ever, ever pans out.
unidentified
I'm not saying it's going up 5%, but I will say that- Makes no difference to anything because there aren't any of them.
We have, I will say that we have had, I've seen an increase of it, speaking to them on the streets.
I mean, this guy was, there was two people literally-- - Speaking to them on the streets.
milo yiannopolous
I'm sorry. - The polling shows a shift. - Republicans need to give up this fantasy fiction that suddenly black America's gonna realize they've been abused for all these years.
unidentified
It's not black women.
It's not happening.
Grow up.
Even Candace Owens has given up that grift.
milo yiannopolous
Stop it.
tim pool
I got a question for Tommy.
I got a question.
Back to UK.
Exile.
Talking about this family, this Muslim family in Birmingham, I'm curious your thoughts.
You talk about jihadists, radicals, rape gangs.
Is there a concern over, let's say, there were migrants coming legally to the UK, following the paperwork, they were Muslims, but they were, you know, more like run-of-the-mill, non-radical, just wanted to get a job and support their family.
Is there any concern with that?
tommy robinson
So, no.
Conservative Islam is a problem.
George, it's like mixing oil and water.
It's like if you are a dedicated follower of the scripture of Islam.
Now many Muslims aren't.
Many Muslims, many Muslims I grew up with, are cultural Muslims, Muslim by name only.
But they'll still defend Islam to the hill, without even knowing the majority of the problems within Islam.
And many Muslims take this, or many Muslim influencers, talk about the great sides of Islam, which there are some good, there are good points of Islam, but they totally ignore the negative points.
And for me, as a British citizen, looking at my country and seeing the Islamization, I've seen the change in culture, in freedom, in my hometown.
So the peaceful, the peaceful Muslims, or the good Muslims, if you want to call them that, they're irrelevant.
They're irrelevant to the threat and the danger and the risk of the jihadists.
Of course.
So, I don't think we should ignore it.
I, Tim, what I always say is I separate people from an idea.
If you hate Muslims, we've got a big problem, yeah?
Because they're individuals.
Every one of them are different.
Many of them follow it, many of them don't follow it.
Cultural Muslims, strict Muslims, whatever.
But picking fault with an idea, the Quran or the Prophet Muhammad, is our God-given right.
And knowing and educating the public on what Islam is, What we've done now is, many of our politicians, they talk against Islamism.
And I was on a debate show the other day, and this woman who had a PhD in all these different things, she's talking about Islamist ideology.
So I just asked her straight, was the Prophet Muhammad an Islamist?
Simple question.
In your terminology of what Islamist means, was he an Islamist?
She just looked lost.
milo yiannopolous
Is the conquering warlord in Medina, does he have some of these tendencies perhaps?
tommy robinson
Are we allowed to be against?
If someone follows strict the Prophet Muhammad's teachings, you're accepting we've got a problem because he was an Islamist.
But we're not allowed to criticise the Prophet Muhammad.
And what you try and do is you create this word, Islamism or Islamist, when what you're talking about and what you're criticising are poor teachings of Islam.
They're called fundamental pillars of Islam.
You don't want to be called a bigot.
You don't want to be called any of these words.
So you've created this word to make yourself feel better.
And what you're doing by doing that is you're giving Islam a free excuse.
Islam needs to be criticized.
milo yiannopolous
You're right about that, Tommy.
There's an additional dimension as well.
Just to make it simpler, it's important that we say Islam is wrong.
Like, it's not true.
Like, as a faith, it is wrong.
The majority of the scriptures are plagiarized bastardisms from the Old Testament.
As a faith, it's objectively wrong.
And therefore it does not deserve, and does not require, and is not entitled to the same status as Christianity in the West.
It isn't.
It's wrong.
It's a wrong religion.
tommy robinson
Islam wants to bring in a new law to protect it.
tim pool
I have a question.
You know, we have these massive protests popping up in the United States, the anti-Israel protests, and I always preface this by saying, you're allowed to criticize the government, I don't care.
But now we're seeing at the DNC this weekend, they're expecting wide-ranging estimates of 30,000 to 100,000 anti-Israel or pro-Palestine protesters in this.
You have this conversation around anti-Semitism, and one thing that pops up is that Hamas, in their charter, had the line from the Hadith that says something to the effect of... I'm not a scholar on this, but something to the effect of... There's the last Jew.
Yeah, the rocks and the trees will scream there's a Jew hiding here.
milo yiannopolous
Judaism is also a wrong religion.
It is incorrect and untrue.
Judaism is not right.
Islam is not right.
Neither of them are true.
Neither of them are real.
They are both wrong.
If you follow them, you will not end up where you want to go.
It's important to say these two things, you know, it's important to say these two things.
tim pool
My question is, is this Hadith line that was included in the Hamas Charter, they did remove it, I don't think that matters, but this line about, it's religiously instructing people to harm Jewish people and chase them down.
And that's okay.
tommy robinson
Kill the last one who will be hiding behind a rock and he'll be killed.
tim pool
But what is that?
tommy robinson
Here he is.
tim pool
What is the Hadith and how is this part of the teachings?
tommy robinson
So that's an authentic hadith as well.
So sahih means authentic.
There's five authentic hadiths.
And the problem they have, you're not allowed to even have these discussions.
I think the main worry about Hamas's charter is the final day of judgment will not come until every Jew is killed.
Not until every Zionist, until every Jew.
And you see the numbers you're about to witness, this anti-Semitism, these groups of people on the street.
That's acceptable and it's not frowned upon.
And it's very easy.
So it's easy to be against Israel.
In the UK, all the universities have to look where the funding comes from.
Same in yours.
Iran, Qatar, Saudi.
They've got into the next generation of minds through our university system.
milo yiannopolous
I don't think the funding problem in universities is Muslim money.
Let's be honest.
unidentified
Give me a break.
The problem in academia is not Muslim academics and Muslim funding.
milo yiannopolous
Give me a break.
unidentified
Look at Tate.
Give me a break.
milo yiannopolous
The problem in academia is not Muslim.
unidentified
The problem in academia is not Muslim academics and Muslim funding.
milo yiannopolous
Get a grip.
unidentified
Give me a break.
Excuse me.
We're talking about funding that causes problems.
milo yiannopolous
I think we all know which Middle Eastern country that's coming from.
And it's not Saudi Arabia.
unidentified
It's not Bahrain.
It's not the United Arab Emirates.
It's not Palestine.
What you're missing is that the Marxist... No, no, no, no.
Stop.
Fine.
Let's say it this way.
The Marxist, right?
Jewish Marxist, right?
If you want to say that?
Is that what you want to say?
I didn't say that.
So, Marxism is taking parts of Islam... Some people find those kinds of generalizations very offensive.
milo yiannopolous
Stop it.
unidentified
There is that red-green Access Alliance, right?
It's the Alliance!
And they're using Islam because they're a minority and they're oppressed and what will happen is once they get to take over, no it's not.
Am I right, Tommy?
Well I can tell you, you can just look at what happened with There was none of this happening when Iran was broke.
When Trump was in office, Iran was broke, you saw none of this happening in the streets, you saw none of the Hamas attacks, and as soon as Biden gets in office and he relieves these sanctions, Iran gets their money, they start funding Hezbollah, they start funding Hamas, and all this shit starts happening all around the world.
milo yiannopolous
Well, excuse me, but most of these terrorist organizations are Israeli creations, most of them Israeli generals.
unidentified
Iran is not an Israeli creation.
milo yiannopolous
No, I didn't say Iran was an Israeli, I said the terrorist organizations are Israeli creations, creations of Israeli intelligence, and Israeli army generals have gone on record explaining how they trained them all, how they founded it, how they continue to fund it, and so I'm sorry, this is ludicrous.
unidentified
No, no, no, but look at what happened, right?
Ludicrous.
Ludicrous.
tommy robinson
Why would Iran be funding Israeli intelligence?
milo yiannopolous
Because terrorist groups that attack Israel do good for the ruling elites, which we've been talking about, brother, in both of those countries.
It serves the ruling elite of Iran's interests, just like it serves Bibi's interests.
October 7th was great for everybody.
Good for business.
If you are a rich person in power in the Middle East, October 7th was fantastic for business.
And that's why he turned off the Iron Dome.
And that's why he grounded the pilots and made them listen to their wives and daughters being carried off.
That's why Israel knew about this attack and did nothing about it and prevented their own armed forces from defending against it.
That's why that music festival was moved to the border so that they had readier access to live young Israeli bodies.
That is why the Israeli elites, the state, was complicit in October 7th.
It serves Netanyahu's government and it serves Iran equally to have the people beating the crap out of each other.
unidentified
Go ahead, Tommy.
tommy robinson
Judging by this, before there was an Israel, before there was the State of Israel, who was to blame for every jihad attack before then?
If it's Israel who is to blame for the jihad we're watching now.
I didn't say that.
unidentified
Before the State of Israel annihilated, there's 1,400 years... Wait, let him finish.
You got to ramble.
Go ahead.
Sorry, Tommy.
tommy robinson
Did I ramble?
There's 1,400 years of Islamic jihad.
milo yiannopolous
You know, if you have former staffers on the panel, it's hardly fair, is it?
You were probably there, soaking up all that Zionist money for him.
unidentified
We can talk about that Zionist money.
Tommy, wait a minute.
I've read, I've read.
Listen, I love you.
I'll be honest.
I'll be honest.
I love you like a brother, Tommy, but we've all read those.
No, no, no.
Let me say this loud and clear.
You were there, weren't you?
Greedily hoovering up all that money from Israel for Tommy.
I'm going to tell them.
He's going to let me tell them.
Yeah, no wonder.
No wonder.
You've ambushed me.
Look at me.
tommy robinson
You've ambushed me.
unidentified
This is the first Eiffel Tower I've ever hated.
It's not fair.
tommy robinson
A simple question.
Simple question.
If Israel is to blame for every terrorist organisation since 1948... I didn't say anything like that.
unidentified
You alluded to it.
I didn't say anything close to that.
tommy robinson
Who's to blame for the 1,400 years of Islamic jihad?
milo yiannopolous
I didn't say anything close to that.
I'm not defending Israel.
unidentified
Let me just say something about the Zionist money to Tommy.
Great question.
milo yiannopolous
You know when you say a sentence like that, you're kind of lost?
unidentified
Let me say something about the Zionist movement.
No, because I begged them for it.
I begged them for it.
I know it's not true.
I begged Zionist organizations and very prominent Jewish people.
That tells its own story.
Why were you doing that?
Why?
Why were you begging Jews for money?
Because I worked for an organization, right?
No, no, let me finish.
And I worked as Tommy.
I tried, I tried to get them to donate to Tommy.
They want it, nothing to do with him.
Why did the Jewish people just have him arrested at the thing?
milo yiannopolous
I believe you.
unidentified
I did his finances.
Nobody, no Zionist donated a dime to him.
You know why I believe you?
milo yiannopolous
Because I've spoken to the same donors about him and about me.
unidentified
And they won't give you a penny.
The pair of you are too hot to handle.
That's what they say.
tommy robinson
I absolutely believe you.
milo yiannopolous
He's a bit more pro than I am, but that's all right.
tommy robinson
My point is just allowing it to blame Israel on all of the Islamic Jihad, which is what we see.
unidentified
I didn't say that.
I didn't say that.
tommy robinson
The genuine far right now do.
Every attack is a false flag and it's Israel.
milo yiannopolous
Are you calling me a fake far right?
Because I take offense to that.
I am.
unidentified
I'm a Genghis Khan.
tim pool
You are demanding that I moderate.
unidentified
How dare you?
milo yiannopolous
How dare you call me fake far right, Tommy?
tommy robinson
I'm explaining that the people, certain people in America, certain people in the UK who are against me, they blame everything now.
It's the easy way out.
And the Muslims do the same.
It was Israel.
It was Israel.
OK.
But before 1948 and the formation of Israel, whose fault was every jihadist attack then?
Every single one throughout the whole of history trying to conquer Europe.
At the gates of Vienna in 1683, the Ottoman Empire trying to wipe out Christianity.
unidentified
Was that Israel?
tommy robinson
Was that the Jews?
milo yiannopolous
Everyone of these attacked the Jews.
No one's blaming the Jews for the Crusades, although they did finance the majority of them.
No one's blaming... No, we get it, we get it.
No one's doing that.
tommy robinson
That's my point.
unidentified
It has provided a useful... It gives a way out for Islam.
milo yiannopolous
I agree with you completely, that's true, that happens, absolutely.
But all I'm saying is Israel has provided a nice conduit now, hasn't it?
tim pool
Someone said, Tim, please get control of Milo.
unidentified
I did.
I ringed him in a little.
tim pool
I don't think people understand when Milo is invited to a show what that means about control.
unidentified
I worried about that because I talk a lot.
milo yiannopolous
I haven't cussed.
I haven't said I want to kill anyone.
I think you did say one cuss word.
tim pool
I think you did say one cuss word.
Milo's been very good.
unidentified
I think it's been very funny.
I think it was me that said the cuss word.
milo yiannopolous
In fact, I said I can't express my views on violence on this show.
tommy robinson
For example, all the surrounding countries to Israel, all the Islamic nations that want rid of it, plus all the other 55 Islamic nations want rid of it.
Let's say for example there's a war, happens now, and all the Jews are taken and wiped out and Israel's gone.
Do you believe that Islamic Jihad Army... Early in the morning for this kind of talk Tommy.
Do you believe they'd stop at Israel?
Does anyone actually believe that?
tim pool
I don't think so.
milo yiannopolous
I think that the creation of Israel was a misstep by colonial powers.
I think it was the wrong solution.
I think it has created far more problems than it has solved.
It created an unsolvable paradox in the heart of the Middle East.
I think it was the wrong thing to do and I think the solution must be from the same place that the problem came.
It was a problem and a mistake This is what I don't understand about these anti-Zionists and whatever, like the Jewish hater people out there.
That means probably that the British government, maybe the American government, maybe some of the other European governments.
unidentified
This is what I don't understand about these anti-Zionists and whatever, like the Jewish hater people out there.
If you don't like Jewish people, right?
We're not talking about Jewish people.
I'm just saying, the people that are in the chat, the people that have been going on online about this, like calling everybody Zionist and everybody Jews lately, right?
milo yiannopolous
Well, no one's doing that here.
unidentified
This is just a question.
I didn't say that.
I'm just talking in general.
If people don't like Jewish people, why don't they want them to have a homeland to go to?
Why don't they want Jews to live with Jews?
tommy robinson
And Muslims to live with Muslims?
unidentified
And Christians to live with Christians?
milo yiannopolous
My point was that this created something that cannot be solved.
We should have just given them want.
All right, we should have just given them Vermont because the state of Israel has become... But the point of that is... Let's be clear.
unidentified
They don't, that's not the point.
milo yiannopolous
Let's be honest.
unidentified
They don't care about where it is.
They want them gone completely.
milo yiannopolous
Well, they should have been in Vermont.
unidentified
But it's Christian land anyway.
So this is...
milo yiannopolous
Let's be honest, it's Christian land anyway, and it should have been taken for Christianity, if anything, alright?
And it's Christian land that is the Holy Land.
That is Christian land.
And if anybody deserves it, if anybody should own it, it is Orthodox Christianity, probably.
And listen, the State of Israel is one of the greatest threats to Jewish lives in the world today.
And the Western powers... Because of what it creates, because of what it does, and the Western powers that are beholden by its money.
tim pool
But they want the instability.
The instability is intentional.
milo yiannopolous
You're just making my point for me.
tim pool
I'm agreeing with you.
milo yiannopolous
Oh, well, thanks.
It shouldn't be there.
It shouldn't be there.
tim pool
Well, I'm not saying that.
milo yiannopolous
I'm saying we should have given the Jews Vermont.
tim pool
Right.
So the issue is perfectly happy.
Perfectly happy.
milo yiannopolous
We should have just given them Vermont.
And instead, what we've created is an intractable solution with no.
On purpose.
With no solution.
tim pool
On purpose.
unidentified
Yes, for sure.
They want the instability so that they can justify every move they make in the world.
milo yiannopolous
The Israeli government was complicit in the murder of thousands of Jews on October 7th, and the time afterwards, and then went and committed genocide next door.
unidentified
This is a rogue, failed state.
milo yiannopolous
This is a rogue, failed state that should be abolished.
unidentified
And it's not too late.
milo yiannopolous
It's not too late to give them Vermont.
unidentified
- Can I ask one question? - Everybody in Vermont would say yes anyway. - All right, well, let's go. - Find me someone in Vermont who would say no. - Let me ask another question. - Let's have Tammy Jampin.
tommy robinson
- All right. - If there was no state of Israel, do you not think followers of Islam would hate the Jews?
unidentified
- Um, yes, but-- - Because 7%, 7%, 7%, 7%, 7%.
They wouldn't be over the road!
milo yiannopolous
They wouldn't be able to shoot them from across the hill!
unidentified
No, they'd just be taking more Haye-Sophias and taking our army off the road.
milo yiannopolous
They wouldn't be able to sniper children in school playgrounds either.
tim pool
Let Tommy respond.
unidentified
Of course they would still hate Jews, but they wouldn't have been forced to live next to them!
tim pool
Let's have Tommy respond.
tommy robinson
They would in Europe.
7% of Mein Kampf was Jew hatred.
11% of the Koran.
7% of Mein Kampf is Jew hatred.
unidentified
I'm not familiar with those percentages.
milo yiannopolous
I've only read Mein Kampf in the German so I can't... Get rid of Israel.
tommy robinson
We're still going to see what we're seeing.
It doesn't matter.
Get rid of the State of Israel.
This isn't about land.
This is holy war.
This is Jihad.
Yasser Arafat said the same.
We just use this as an excuse.
unidentified
This is just an excuse to hate Jews.
milo yiannopolous
Mohammed hated Jews.
tommy robinson
Mohammed beheaded 600 Jews in one day.
Mohammed hated Jews.
That's it.
They're following in the footsteps of Mohammed.
Mohammed hated Jews.
Get rid of the State of Israel.
They're still coming for the Jews.
milo yiannopolous
As Christians, we are required to pray for the Jews.
tommy robinson
First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday, Milo.
First comes Saturday, then comes Sunday.
That's their saying.
First the Jews, then the Christians.
That's their saying.
That's the Islamic saying.
That's the saying of Hamas.
milo yiannopolous
The existence of the state of Israel is one of the prime reasons for the Muslim invasion of Europe.
tommy robinson
What about the last 1400 years?
milo yiannopolous
It's one of the things driving it.
tommy robinson
What about the last 1400 years?
What about the last 1400 years?
milo yiannopolous
Well, we won the Crusades.
tommy robinson
We're not winning now.
milo yiannopolous
We're not winning now because what we didn't have in the Crusades was Israel.
unidentified
This whole term Zionism, it's really just nationalism.
It's Americanism.
But why is it so sinister when it applies to Jews who want to protect their homeland?
milo yiannopolous
Oh no, it's fine.
I just wish we were allowed ethnostates too.
tommy robinson
There's two million Arab Muslims in Israel!
milo yiannopolous
Let's be clear what we're talking about.
The Orthodox Jews who lived in the Palestinian territories before the creation of the state of Israel, the real Jews in my mind, there were the skirmishes but we didn't have the problems we have now.
The Jews that came in, this other kind of Judaism, That has arrived since the creation of the state of Israel is sinister, is evil, is a threat to Jewish people, is a threat to Muslim people, is a threat to everybody else.
It is a corrupt, failed, rogue state that should be abolished.
unidentified
Okay.
tommy robinson
I think the... Try living there as one of them.
milo yiannopolous
You'll find out.
unidentified
He said they were fine.
I was in camp.
No other democracy in the Middle East, that's all I'm going to say.
Muslims, Christians, Jews, all living in Israel.
Find out somewhere else in the Middle East.
Wrong crowd.
milo yiannopolous
Read the room.
unidentified
Read the room.
Give me a break.
It's better than a theocracy, a totalitarian theocracy.
How's democracy working out for you lately?
milo yiannopolous
Any friends at Johnson?
unidentified
I live in a republic.
milo yiannopolous
Well, yeah, it's not working either.
tim pool
But over a long enough period of time... I still have my freedom of speech.
Let's put it that way.
unidentified
But Israel's been around for like a couple of decades.
I'm talking about the United States.
tim pool
I'm talking about the United States.
milo yiannopolous
Well, the United States as an empire has lasted less... It's been a much shorter-lived empire than any of the others.
And the reason is the structural deficiency I was talking about earlier.
Because it outsources morality to Christianity while at the same time guaranteeing Christianity's destruction by enshrining freedom of religion, disestablishing the religion from the state and not allowing it in public places, and enshrining a First and Second Amendment, which are guaranteed to and enshrining a First and Second Amendment, which are guaranteed to cause chaos and social breakdown without the protective cloak of Christian
The American system was set up to outsource morality to Christianity and at the same time was set up to screw Christianity.
It is a faulty design and it has failed.
tim pool
But as to the end of the American Empire, that may not be.
This may be the end of the American Republic and the beginning of the actual empirical system of... We're looking at an election now where we've got people... We need a divorce.
You've got a political system now where one candidate has been appointed by political elite decree with no policy positions and half the country claiming to support this individual.
milo yiannopolous
This could be... Biden you're talking about.
tim pool
Sure, Harris, Biden, Obama, all of them.
milo yiannopolous
You're basically right, yes.
tim pool
This is the inflection point where it's potentially the American public collapsing and then becoming a communist Chinese-style governance system.
milo yiannopolous
Well, who knows what it will become, but the fact is that the government in this country is now illegitimate.
It's illegitimate.
It has no basis of legitimacy in this country.
And there is no real locus of legitimacy in America anyway, because like I said, you ripped the heart out of it, replaced it with the stars and stripes, and the only thing you get When you take God and the King out of things is a vacuum into which worse things creep.
When you cover it with a flag, all you do is hide the people behind it.
tim pool
What is the King in the UK doing right now?
unidentified
Nothing.
He's congratulating the tyrant that's arresting all the citizens.
For free speech.
tommy robinson
He's pro-World Economic Forum, pro-Sharia.
milo yiannopolous
If anything, the problem is that he's expressed an opinion at all, which his mother would never have done.
The problem is not what his opinion is.
The problem is that he's expressing one, because it violates the principle of stable monarchy.
That's not the problem.
The problem that you have here is there's no reason why this country exists other than conquest, right?
It's not bound by geography because on the top and the bottom and the state, nothing makes sense.
There's no reason why America exists except for the fact of conquest because there's no local legitimacy.
When you talk in European countries and you are To join the armed forces you have to pledge allegiance to the crown and to God, right?
It doesn't exist here.
And when you replace that with the silly rules and laws and with the rippling flag which only really serves to... Listen.
Get rid of the king doesn't mean that you get rid of the king.
It just means you replace him with a bunch of people whose names you don't know and you will never find out, okay?
And that's the situation that you're in in this country right now with a rippling flag which just covers up the miscreants behind it.
unidentified
Your king doesn't really serve much of a role though.
I mean, not legislatively at least.
Right now they don't, yeah.
tim pool
Tommy seems to be having a good... Tommy, I'm curious your thoughts on the monarchy.
tommy robinson
On the monarchy, I was a big supporter of the Queen, but then what I see now is pro-World Economic Forum, pro-all the things that are going to destroy our nation.
In fact, as time went on from when I started my activism, I watched and thought, why are the royal family remaining silent as our daughters are being raped in every town and city, as our country's being flooded and their people are being changed?
Why is there silence?
If the Queen would have said, stand up, protect this country tomorrow, the people would have rose up.
So I felt betrayed as an Englishman.
I felt betrayed by their inaction at the destruction of the nation.
Now they spoke up before, they spoke up when we had dangers from Nazi empire.
What we have now is danger from Islam in our country.
We see our population and our people coming under hostile attack whilst they remain silent.
milo yiannopolous
So I've gone from loving You do have a point.
I agree with you.
I think that was a failure of her late majesty.
I think she should have, and she didn't.
And I think she realized that her success was partly thanks to the fact that nobody ever knew what she thought about anything.
tommy robinson
Milo, you talk more than me.
unidentified
I thought I talk a lot.
milo yiannopolous
Oh, you can run a clock on this episode if you want.
It's not me in the lead.
Oh, it is.
tim pool
It absolutely is.
unidentified
I warned them both.
milo yiannopolous
You're never aware when you're going yourself, are you?
unidentified
I said to Tim, I said they both talk a lot.
milo yiannopolous
She warned me about you.
So I did.
unidentified
I said, you got to be able to reign them both in.
So anyway, keep going, Tommy.
Go ahead.
tommy robinson
I think the royal family have betrayed our people.
That's what I think.
Honestly, I feel that at a time of the destruction of our country and culture.
milo yiannopolous
I don't believe that's cause for dismantling the institution, but I do agree with you that her late majesty failed in this respect.
tommy robinson
If you dismantle an institution, what replaces it?
milo yiannopolous
Something worse.
America.
unidentified
Way worse.
How about three branches of government?
How do you get better than three branches of government?
Have you lost your mind?
Countries have bad kings and bad queens sometimes.
milo yiannopolous
When America ceases to exist, which won't be that long from now on, There will be no evidence that it was ever here.
There's no poetry.
unidentified
There are no paintings.
milo yiannopolous
There's no literature.
There's nothing.
There's nothing.
When the petrodollar collapses, which is probably going to happen within our lifetimes, and this third world country in a Gucci belt Suddenly, it ceases to exist.
There will be no evidence it was ever here.
unidentified
How is that going to happen though?
tim pool
I'll make this point though.
milo yiannopolous
Your whole life is fake.
Everything about your life is fake, propped up by an imaginary mirage of an American military.
That American military no longer exists, and China knows it, and Russia knows it.
Everybody knows it.
And when somebody tests that proposition for the first time, and people realize they no longer have to trade in dollars, this country is done.
tim pool
Yes, Milo is completely correct, and Saudi Arabia has not re-upped their 50-year petrodollar deal.
milo yiannopolous
Russia's now dealing in yen, right?
tim pool
And yuan.
Yuan?
Chinese yuan.
milo yiannopolous
Juan?
tommy robinson
Juan.
unidentified
Juan?
tim pool
And so the United States does not produce enough to maintain its economic standards other than control of the petrodollar, which it can produce.
And when the petrodollar system breaks, America's inflated wealth is in for serious trouble.
milo yiannopolous
It's all fake, my friend.
These thousands of dollars you have to spend, they're not real.
tim pool
Fake is the wrong word, it's might.
The US military threatens these other countries who step out of line.
milo yiannopolous
It's a mirage based on a sort of teenage machismo and based on the sociopathic horror of dropping those two bombs on Japan, which is the greatest crime that's ever occurred in any war ever.
tim pool
We do not produce enough in this country to maintain its economic standing.
milo yiannopolous
The greatest moral horror ever perpetrated in war was the dropping of those two atomic bombs.
unidentified
It would have ended the war and saved hundreds of thousands or millions of lives.
tim pool
We were already on the way out, Japan was already defeated.
tommy robinson
I just said that's all intentional, what we produce.
So the destruction of the West.
milo yiannopolous
Yes, yes.
unidentified
People have lost their will to do it.
tim pool
So there is a hypothesis, and maybe it's wild, that Western powers colluded with Chinese communists saying, look, we want to avoid Thucydides' trap, which is the West is going to get into a war with China.
How about this?
Powerful elites from the West, World Economic Forum Davos types, get free run in China to be millionaires when the system collapses and we burn it down before the war starts.
milo yiannopolous
I'm sorry, that's not a conspiracy.
tommy robinson
It looks that way, no?
It all looks intangible.
Well, there you go.
tim pool
I didn't say conspiracy, I said a theory.
milo yiannopolous
Excuse me, forgive me.
That's not a theory, that's what we're watching.
I think the elites are watching the Titanic.
Check how many Teslas were sold in China last month.
tim pool
The way I describe it is that Titanic has hit the iceberg and the captain and the crew are grabbing as much fine China and silverware and rushing to the lifeboats before anyone can reach them.
milo yiannopolous
Not realizing they're never going to make it to the shore.
tommy robinson
They're never gonna make it!
milo yiannopolous
Everyone's gonna die!
And they're on their lifeboats, their lifeboats.
The only good person is Jack, Jack.
But all these people are stuck with their jewels, and they don't realize everyone's gonna die!
tim pool
But there was room on that door for Jack.
milo yiannopolous
There was.
She was awful.
That is my point.
unidentified
How do you defeat the largest armed force in the world and the American people though?
I don't care about that right now.
Do you know how incompetent the American military is?
milo yiannopolous
Do you know how terrible the American military is?
unidentified
I'm talking about the military.
tim pool
I'm not talking about the military.
unidentified
I'm talking about 400 million guns owned by citizens.
tim pool
Hold on.
milo yiannopolous
The US military destroyed three of their own ships just getting them out of the harbor.
tim pool
You can't even sail anymore.
There's no American standing population to conquer.
Americans in Appalachia are not going to go to China to conquer anything.
unidentified
We've already done it.
milo yiannopolous
It's conquered America through immigration.
tim pool
But listen, if the system were to collapse, the well-armed American population would mind their own business and take care of their chickens in their backyard.
unidentified
I think you underestimate the American people.
tim pool
They're not going to get on boats and go to China to steal oil or anything like that.
The American government might want to do that.
milo yiannopolous
If they would even mind their own business, because if you're telling me at a house surrounded by the FBI and the ATF that you'd fire back, I don't believe you.
tim pool
But that's not the issue.
milo yiannopolous
I don't believe you.
tim pool
That's not what we're talking about.
milo yiannopolous
What I'm saying is the well-armed American population is irrelevant.
Because they're never going to use it.
unidentified
They're never going to do it.
Right, right, right.
milo yiannopolous
The only people with the balls to use their guns are gangbangers in Chicago.
unidentified
Milo, Milo.
tim pool
We're not talking about this.
We're talking about, will the United States fall?
unidentified
Milo, Milo.
tim pool
The issue is, the American people do not want war.
The American people do not want intervention.
The American people do not want excursions.
milo yiannopolous
The only person that's spoken longer than me in history is George bloody Washington.
unidentified
Tell that to Cornwallis.
By the way, at his inaugural address he said if this country wasn't bolstered by religion, it would not exist.
tim pool
The American people do not want war.
And vote against it.
They want their politicians to say no war, and they always do.
And so if there was an issue where the American bureaucratic system was collapsing due to the loss of the petrodollar, every American is going to be like, I'm here.
I'm not interested in invading South America.
milo yiannopolous
You won't be able to kill the armed forces for sure.
I completely agree.
tim pool
So the American people won't be conquered.
No one's going to come here and steal our land.
There's nothing to steal.
milo yiannopolous
There's just a bunch of people on Adderall and Xanax.
There's nothing here.
tim pool
And so no one here, if the American system collapses and our bases overseas empty out and people start leaving, there's no the American population deciding to go invade China.
They're going to be like, I have chickens in my backyard.
Most Americans want to be left alone, don't want war, and would probably take up homesteading.
milo yiannopolous
I think it's a very polite way to say that the backbone of the American Mail has been broken.
tommy robinson
We still have failsafe.
unidentified
What are you saying, Tony?
tommy robinson
You've got... Islam's now in the United States and it's growing at an exponential rate.
So you're still going to face a war.
Whether America collapses or not, you're still going to have to face a war because there's going to be Islamic domination wanting to take over the United States of America the same way it wants to take over the world.
unidentified
They will try.
milo yiannopolous
It's remarkable how many of the people crossing over the border from Mexico have names like Ali and Mohammed.
I mean, I had no idea there were so many Muslims in Tijuana.
I had no idea Mexico City had such enormous... They're not coming from Mexico City.
tim pool
They're coming from Honduras and Guatemala.
Some from El Salvador and Venezuela.
unidentified
Yeah, but they're coming from the Horn of Africa, they're coming from Asia, they're coming in from everywhere.
They're coming from everywhere.
He's saying they're coming through, they're not Mexicans, they're coming through there.
milo yiannopolous
I'm just saying, well of course they're not Mexicans, that was my point.
Mexico, I will tell you this, I live in Los Angeles, and Mexico City is cleaner, safer, and nicer than Los Angeles.
tim pool
Absolutely, agreed.
And they got buffalo wild wings.
milo yiannopolous
In Mexico City.
tim pool
Yeah, they have several.
milo yiannopolous
I mean, I'll still never go to Mexico because ugh.
unidentified
I mean, I think a lot of this talk is hyperbolic because we do... Hyperbolic because we do... Aren't they the ugliest people in the world?
milo yiannopolous
We do have... Aren't they ugly?
They look like oranges with cocktail sticks coming out.
unidentified
Milo, let me finish my statement.
Can you just throw a banana at him?
You guys have no idea what's going on here.
Violence is never the answer.
tim pool
We're going to have to have Kellen put a timer on Milo.
unidentified
Wait, let's go back to Tommy because we're running out of time here.
milo yiannopolous
We told Ray Sturmey before this show began that violence was never the answer.
unidentified
Here's why we have the best system of government.
We have three branches.
milo yiannopolous
It's my banana now.
unidentified
Alright, let's go back to Tommy.
tim pool
Tommy has something to say.
unidentified
I'm making a point.
I'm making a point.
Let me make my point, Tommy.
Let me make my point.
tommy robinson
I've just been kicked out of my ex account.
unidentified
We still have...
tommy robinson
Yeah.
Do you know what for?
Do you know what for?
milo yiannopolous
What?
tommy robinson
Today marks 30 years since 15-year-old Richard Everett was brutally murdered by a gang of Bangladeshis in a racially motivated attack in London.
Badrul Mia, Shoa Akbar and Abdul Hayat, all convicted of his killing.
Most won't even know his name.
It doesn't fit a narrative.
For that, I've been told that goes against their guidelines.
unidentified
You were probably mass-reported.
We should get somebody over at Twitter to look at that.
tommy robinson
I believe one of the men that murdered him is now a Labour councillor.
I believe, I believe.
unidentified
Wait, wait, wait.
This is a historic episode.
tommy robinson
We murdered Richard Everett.
tim pool
Tommy.
milo yiannopolous
I'm sorry.
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
Tommy, you got kicked out of your X account right now?
Yeah, just now, yeah.
tommy robinson
Yeah, I can't get into it.
milo yiannopolous
Are you frozen out for a particular period of time?
tommy robinson
I either had to delete the post or appeal it.
Why would I delete that post?
It's 100% factual, so I've appealed it.
But until you appeal and they go through the appeal, obviously you can't.
Now, that is just a fact.
That killing and that murder was a racist attack.
And I believe one of the men is now a Labour politician, I think.
One of the killers, I believe.
milo yiannopolous
Oh, I believe it.
And isn't that just an echo of America too?
Just what I was saying earlier, right?
Where people learn things from here.
Look at the way in the 1960s, right?
They become politicians and academics in America in the 70s and the 80s.
I mean, Robert Wright, you know, all these people who are left-wing terrorists, who are blowing up buildings in America in the 60s, become academics and politicians in the 70s and the 80s.
Just like America, the rest of the world learns from here.
It's what matters, what happens here.
tommy robinson
What I don't get at the minute is why is no one talking about what's happening in Bangladesh?
Why does no one talk about what's happening to the Christians in Africa?
Why do all we talk about is Gaza?
Why does all the world want to talk about is Gaza?
Why aren't they talking about Balochistan?
Balochistan was the land before Pakistan was created.
It was a very wealthy land.
The Baloch people have been kidnapped, raped and disappeared for generations by the Pakistani military.
Why is there no protest over any of these issues?
Any of these issues there?
- It's not happening in Armenia, yeah?
They've took the land already off them.
It's Christian land. - I'd be quite happy if the law went out saying, - All the Christians wanna talk about is Gaza.
tim pool
- Land and fish, land and fish.
tommy robinson
- Damn it. - All Christians wanna talk about is Gaza.
All everyone wants to talk about is Gaza.
The hypocrisy in the situation of Gaza, basically, which I find is because it's Jewish, because there's far worse things going on in the world and going on.
The Bangladeshi community now, the genocide there, Nigeria.
I remember my first start of my activism.
I looked at Nigeria.
Five Christian churches were blown up on Christmas Day.
It didn't even make the BBC News.
So why is everyone so intent all the time on waving Palestinian flags across the West?
All the new generation of liberals coming up with their Palestinian flags, the Irish with their Palestinian flags.
Every university, everyone wants to be very vocal in support of Palestine, but they totally ignore the genocide and the jihad committed against Christians across the globe on a daily basis, or Hindus who are currently facing genocide in Bangladesh.
unidentified
How about burning churches every day in France?
Catholic churches, Christian churches.
milo yiannopolous
All the very worst people in the world have been enabled and empowered by the existence of the State of Israel, which of course harbors pedophiles, as we all know.
The size of New Jersey, right?
There's a reason that we talk about that one, and it is because the creation of that state produced Can we just not talk about world news for a bit?
Can we just talk about home news for a bit?
If you won't talk about Jews, we won't talk about world news.
unidentified
settlements happen.
tommy robinson
Why Christians, why Christians across the West, why populations across the West totally ignore the genocide that's happening to Christians in Nigeria when they're all quick to talk about Israel.
If it was Jews killing the Nigerians, it would be world news again.
milo yiannopolous
Can we just not talk about world news for a bit?
Can we just talk about home news for a bit?
I'd be perfectly happy.
unidentified
If you won't talk about Jews, we won't talk about world news.
How about that?
milo yiannopolous
I'd be perfectly happy.
unidentified
Let's go back to England.
milo yiannopolous
We're not talking about stuff that happens in places we don't care about.
What about what's happening in Bangladesh?
Who cares?
I care.
tommy robinson
Who cares?
I care.
I care about what's happening in Bangladesh.
unidentified
I care.
tommy robinson
It's the same.
The future of what's happening in Bangladesh.
unidentified
No, I think you're missing the point.
milo yiannopolous
No, you're missing the point.
tommy robinson
What Tommy cares about is the spread of Islam.
unidentified
The spread of Islam into Western communities.
Milo, I respect your position, but you've said it three times.
- What he cares about is the spread of Islam.
milo yiannopolous
- Provocation of giving the Holy Land, of Christian-- - The spread of Islam to Western communities.
- So that is the provocation of that.
tim pool
- Milo, I respect your position, but you've said it three times.
tommy robinson
- Okay.
unidentified
- Yeah, one little pebble on the earth surrounded by nothing but countries that hate-- We're off Israel now.
We're off of it.
We're off of it.
We're off Israel!
I can't take it anymore.
But what Tommy's saying is what he is concerned about, and it will come here because it is coming here, is the spread of Islam in the Western world.
tommy robinson
And what happens to minorities under Islam?
What's happening in Bangladesh?
What's happening in Syria?
What's happening to the Yazidis?
What happens across the entire world when Islam becomes a majority?
And why can't we have that conversation?
Why is conversation put back to Israel?
Let him finish.
tim pool
Let him finish.
tommy robinson
What happens as minorities, when we become a minority to the Islamic community, what happens?
And the reality, there's not one single country in the world, in history, where Islam has peacefully coexisted.
So what we're going to witness in Europe, why do European leaders, which they don't, they actually know what's going to happen, but why do European leaders or the European population believe our country is going to be any different to any of the countries throughout the history of the world?
There's 1,400 years of history we can look at.
To establish exactly what's going to happen.
It's going to happen to all of us.
So, and now they want to take away our ability to discuss or even talk about these issues.
milo yiannopolous
We're all agreed on that.
tim pool
You know what I see here in the American tradition and in British is that the British are too gentlemanly.
And I believe, I mean, you've got... Well, I've been trying to disprove that.
unidentified
They look a little more manly than our people, right?
You ate my banana.
tim pool
You've got this nation that created a massive global empire through conquest, but then stopped.
milo yiannopolous
The greatest human rights triumph in the history of human civilization.
tim pool
Absolutely.
milo yiannopolous
And then we messed it up by just dropping it and letting all these places fall into chaos.
We did the best thing in the world, and then we did the worst thing in the world.
Which is we built an empire which spread the things you like, the gay stuff, like democracy.
unidentified
But also, more importantly... The only gay thing I slightly like is you a little bit.
tim pool
You've actually just absolutely finished my point, which is, be it America as an offshoot for whatever you believe its failures to be... Hasn't America done the same thing?
milo yiannopolous
Continued that failed legacy of building empires and then just dropping them in the dirt.
tim pool
It's exactly it.
You know, I was watching The Prestige the other day.
You guys ever see that movie?
And there's a scene where Michael Caine is talking to a judge and he doesn't want to give up this magic trick but a guy's gonna be hanged unless they get... and the judge says very politely, perhaps we could compromise and you could come into my chamber and divulge it in secret and I'm like, such gentlemanly behavior!
milo yiannopolous
Wasn't that a good way to fix the problem?
tim pool
Yes, I'm saying it's a good thing that there is this idea of the British trying to be strong men but reasonable Blackstone's formulation is brilliant, but then they drop it and say, we're going to let everyone, we're going to be so tolerant of everybody, they get steamrolled in the end.
milo yiannopolous
I think you're right about that.
And just look at gay marriage as an example.
The British, in their restraint and gentlemanly whatever, came up with this perfect thing called civil partnership and had all the privileges and all the status of marriage, just didn't have the name so as not to violate The sacredness of that institution for religion, right?
So it wasn't masquerading as a holy sacrament.
It was just a civil institution for people who don't believe in God anyway, that gave them all the same rights, responsibilities and privileges, right?
Perfect example of elegant British statecraft, right?
Perfect.
And then they mess it up by saying, you know what, you can have marriage after all.
I think you're right.
So what we really need is British people to start things and you guys to finish them.
tim pool
I think the vision I have is a strong judge who is reasonable.
But I don't see that these days.
I don't see that in my lifetime.
milo yiannopolous
That's because the judges are now being drawn with DEI backgrounds as well.
What you want from a judge is the richest, whitest, poshest, most highly educated guy, because he's got no skin in the game.
He's the only person who can judge dispassionately.
You don't want a black judge when someone black is on trial.
You don't want a gay judge.
tommy robinson
Milo, the judge you're talking about sounds like Justice Nicklin, the one that ruled against me, gave me an injunction, told me to shut up.
unidentified
Yep.
tim pool
I was just saying the same thing.
And this is it.
I mean, I think these judges are scared of the ramifications.
But actually, I'll throw to this because I wanted to say this for a while.
I talked to Tommy's cutting out.
We're losing him?
Let me say this.
unidentified
Oh no, we were doing so well.
tim pool
You dropped out a little bit, but let me say this.
I was talking to Carl Benjamin, Lotus Eaters Podcast, and I asked him, why did the political establishment hate Tommy so much?
He's not saying things that are wildly out of line with a lot of common opinions, and Carl actually pointed this out.
Actually, yeah, Tommy doesn't say anything different at all from some of, you know, I can't remember the politician's name.
He's like, these people are saying the exact same thing.
The issue is that he sounds like a working class guy.
unidentified
Exactly.
tim pool
That's it.
unidentified
Nobody has the effect on the people of Great Britain that Tommy has on people.
milo yiannopolous
That's true.
unidentified
The passion that he has.
You know, I always call Tommy the working class Donald Trump.
If you look at everything, Tommy, this is one of the things that drew me to Tommy and why he and I are such good friends now.
While I allow him to be friends with me is because you know I cut like I said, I call him the working-class Donald Trump.
If you look at everything that Donald Trump's been through, the weaponization of the justice system, if you look at how they've affected his family life, his wealth, they've took millions of dollars from Tommy and with these fees for his solicitors and all the like.
You can compare everything Trump has went through to exactly the same thing with Tommy Robinson.
That's why I call him the working... and some might agree that Tommy He's even braver than Trump, because Tommy doesn't have $4 billion.
So he's doing all this just as a working class lad, you know what I mean?
tim pool
He's saying you should run for office.
unidentified
He did.
We did run for office, and it was a month before the election, and he got 40,000 votes.
I helped, I helped, I did.
Great Britain's ever had.
milo yiannopolous
You see what a stacked-up this panel is, we did.
unidentified
It is a stacked panel.
But no, it was a very short campaign, he wasn't on social media, and he still got 40,000 votes.
Is that what it was, Tommy, right?
40,000?
milo yiannopolous
I think he should run for London.
tommy robinson
I'd say my power is in journalism.
Why don't you run for London Mayor?
The majority of the public who are now awake, which we've awoken them, it's took 15 years, I guarantee you if you sit down and ask them what woke you up it would have been one of the documentaries or the commentary or the education that we've given.
So my place I see, and I've said this many times, is in my journalism.
I've now made a film that's had 44 million views which totally, totally destroys the I made a documentary called Panorama, which totally, it had 2 million views in 48 hours.
It destroyed the reputation of Panorama and the BBC fake news.
So I see my powers there, and I've never said that I'll be the person that will change everything, but I hope I inspire the thoughts in the next person in May.
And I know that many people would have been awoken, and that is why they must censor us.
It's why they mustn't allow open discussions.
I remember when I went to speak at Oxford University, I gave a presentation there, as Milo said.
When I walked in, people hated me.
When I left, they were taking selfies.
That's the difference in the power of propaganda by the government and letting us speak.
And after I spoke at Oxford University, seven other universities cancelled me straight away because they know they can't allow him.
milo yiannopolous
Because it went down.
tim pool
Tommy, let me ask you a question.
I don't think you're back in the UK, but, I mean, if you go, I think they're just going to throw you, lock you up and throw away the key.
What do you do?
unidentified
Yes.
tommy robinson
I 100%... It's a question I'm asking myself now every minute, Tim.
I did not incite any violence.
The evidence is the total opposite, but the evidence doesn't matter.
And I'll give you an example, yeah?
So when I was put in jail in 2017-18, which was reporting outside the grooming gangs, I was put in jail, they said I jeopardised the trial.
Muslims had appeals and then the judges said everything I said didn't jeopardise the trial.
So within 11 weeks I get to an appeal and I'm released.
So I'm released from prison.
So they can no longer... They then reach... I produced a documentary, Panadrama, which totally exposes the BBC.
I got the covert recordings of them setting up sexual allegations.
I got it all.
Everything you think about them I got on covert recording.
I made it into a film.
Within 48 hours of making that film I was deleted from YouTube, Facebook.
And the government, the Attorney General, which is who's prosecuting me now, it's not the police, the government launched proceedings against me again.
Now they couldn't say that I jeopardised the trial because it's been proven already I didn't.
So what did they do?
They put me to the Old Bailey before the head judge of the Old Bailey.
The Old Bailey head judge read all the evidence.
He kicked it back to the government.
He said, I'm not prosecuting him on this.
He kicked it back to the government.
They then get rid, and this is a fact, they get rid of the head judge of the Old Bailey.
They replace him with the first ever DEI, the first ever female judge.
They take me back before her.
And this is where it's terrifying because the law doesn't matter.
What you've said doesn't matter.
I made a video in my live stream outside that court.
I spoke to the media.
And I said to the media, why are you following us?
Why are you harassing me for speaking about these grooming gangs?
Why don't you harass them?
Why don't you follow them?
Why don't you see where they work?
Why don't you go after their family like you keep doing to us?
Do you know what the judge done?
She took what I said, and this is where I watched as the media weapon went to work, She found me guilty for inciting my followers to commit vigilante attacks.
Any of you, five million people watched that video.
They know I didn't do that.
They know I was talking to the media.
When I sat in prison that day and I saw it all on the headlines, what it said was Tommy Robinson incited his followers to commit vigilante attacks.
And they had me saying, go harass them, go after them.
They'd cut the 10 seconds of me talking to the media and made out to the public I was talking to my followers.
Wow.
She used that as justification to send me back to jail.
So the evidence doesn't matter, because they will use their weapon of the media to tell the public why you're in jail.
So if I go back to the UK, I have no doubt I'm going to be sent to jail.
What they will say using their media... See, they have a problem.
On this case, they have a problem.
44 million people have watched my film.
44 million people know all I've done was tell the truth.
So whatever they want to say, there's a big block in the way here, and it's 44 million views of the truth.
So I don't know what they're going to do on this, but I don't doubt, as they're doing with the rest of these cases, they'll lock me up and they'll cut something I said in a video and say that I incited violence on the streets of the UK.
That would justify a very lengthy prison sentence.
tim pool
Where can you go?
unidentified
He's going to marry me and come over on a fiancé visa, right Tommy?
I don't know.
tommy robinson
I was 45 years old.
unidentified
Did you just say that?
You bombed it.
No, no.
This is a big joke of ours.
tommy robinson
No, no, no.
unidentified
Ask him, Tommy.
No, no, no.
He knows better.
He didn't hear it.
Oh, Lizzie, I'm mad.
Did you hear me, Tommy?
It's all over.
It's all over.
Did you hear me, Tommy?
tommy robinson
Did I hear what, babe?
unidentified
See?
You didn't hear me.
Oh, that must have been it.
That must have been it.
milo yiannopolous
I said you're just going to marry me and come over here on a fiancé visa and then you can come here.
unidentified
That's what I said.
And then you said no!
I don't know!
I don't know!
Is that your proposal?
Is that your There you go, he's on a flight.
milo yiannopolous
Let's move on.
In a sense, we've watched as this stuff has been happening to Tommy for the last 10 plus years.
We have watched as he's been, you know, and people say, is he really, you know, is he over egging the pudding?
You know, is this really as bad as it says?
Well, we're all Tommy Robinson now.
We're all Tommy Robinson if we show up to a protest.
We're all Tommy Robinson if we object to obviously stolen elections.
We're all Tommy Robinson if we don't want our daughters to be raped.
We're all Tommy Robinson if we've got something to say about any of it.
I'm sitting here, when I read that thing from the UK government saying we're going to extradite people, I'm like...
unidentified
I'm on that list!
Hold on, wait, wait, wait.
No!
They're always monitoring us.
tommy robinson
I intend on turning to the UK and putting the judiciary on trial to the world.
I intend, because I believe 44 million people who watch my film, I believe chat shows like yourself across the world have seen what's happened, and I don't believe I'm on trial.
I believe when I go back to the UK, their reputation is on trial.
So I'm not going to run from this.
I will return to the UK.
I believe there'll be masses of people outside that court case.
And unfortunately for the British government, they can lie as much as they want.
44 million people have seen the truth.
If they want to stick me in jail, it's just another nail in the coffin in the world's eyes of democracy and freedom.
unidentified
You're talking about two different cases though.
tommy robinson
And the Royal Court in Great Britain.
So I don't intend to run from this.
unidentified
Tommy, you're talking about the contempt of court for showing the film that they know that they lied about.
He's up for that for two years.
But we're also talking about them throwing you in prison for 10 or more years under these incitement cases.
milo yiannopolous
Let's just take for a moment his willingness to go back and the courage he just displayed.
And that's why people like me who have done nothing their whole lives except chat crap for a living, and then I found out I was quite good at running things, but people like me find him so inspirational.
And people like me have such admiration for him.
Because, you know, according to you, he was mixing up two court cases.
Didn't matter to him.
No, but I'm saying... He's ready to go.
He's ready to go back.
And I don't think the British... He doesn't want to leave his family.
I don't think the British justice system is going to take too kindly to him saying, actually, Your Honour, you're the one on trial.
And we're like, oh, really?
OK, you're right.
You're done, mate.
You're done.
I don't think they're going to take too kindly to that.
But just look at this guy.
That's why he's a hero.
That's why we love him.
It's incredible.
It's incredible.
unidentified
You know, one of the things I think needs to be discussed that we have not discussed is the common factor behind why all of a sudden there's this uptick in the arrest of people for free speech.
And if you look at what it really is, it's Keir Starmer.
100%.
Keir Starmer is an old red.
He is a self-avowed Marxist.
He wrote for a group, a magazine called the Socialist Alternatives.
He is, and if you know anything about Trotsky, he's a Trotskyist, is who Starmer is, and Trotsky was so severe, he was such a radical Marxist that Stalin had him excommunicated from the Communist Party and expelled from Russia to Kazakhstan, and then, you know, Trotsky saw that as a betrayal, betrayal to the Communist movement, so he wanted to throw Stalin out, so they eventually had him assassinated, but that, and if you look at the parallels, you see
After the Bolshevik Revolution, Trotsky immediately wanted socialism implemented.
He didn't want to wait.
He didn't have the patience.
And he wanted it done internationally using military force.
Stalin didn't want that.
Stalin wanted to gradually phase out capitalism and roll softly into socialism.
He thought that would be better for the economy.
And if you look at the parallel there at what Keir Starmer's doing, he doesn't have the patience for this soft rollout of socialism and the tyranny they want to exact on the British people.
He wants it right now.
And you can see that Trotskyism in him.
And that's who Keir Starmer is.
He's very dangerous.
And Keir Starmer has to be.
He's got to go.
He's your biggest problem right now.
tommy robinson
Unfortunately though, it was the Conservatives, whose Attorney General prosecuted me last time, who changed the law to prosecute me.
So the Conservatives are no different.
Keir Starmer is just more blatant in what he's doing.
unidentified
Right, right.
Exactly.
More blatant.
milo yiannopolous
Tommy's right.
unidentified
The Conservatives are worse because they pretend.
Yeah, but they weren't arresting all these people for free speech like they are now.
tim pool
Tommy, what were you saying?
tommy robinson
Right now, I'm sat in Moscow.
tim pool
You're in Moscow right now?
unidentified
No.
milo yiannopolous
He wants Sky News to show up in St.
tim pool
Petersburg.
I mean the scary thing is we've seen with like Edward Snowden that a lot of people flee to Russia because they fear extradition or you know.
tommy robinson
Yeah, you see, I've sat and had all these thoughts and I've had lots of advice on what I should do.
And again, I don't think that I made a conscious decision to play the film that I played on the 27th of July, fully aware of the imprisonment that I'll receive.
Yeah, I made that decision because I don't think anyone has been in a position to put a spotlight on the corruption of the judiciary and the politicisation.
Remember, the weaponisation of our courts is being used.
You get to hear about my case.
You get to hear about Donald Trump's.
It's being used across the Western land, and many people don't get to hear about it.
Any whistleblowers get done through the courts.
They use the courts, they use these injunctions, and they silence people.
Now, I've been in a position, I've been holding on to that for three years.
That's why I made a decision on the 27th of July to play it.
And my only joy is that with Elon Musk, You see if they imprison me for years for this, that 44 million views will become 100 million.
I've played my part and my role as a journalist in exposing the corruption of the judiciary, which is a worldwide plague on our freedom of society.
It's their final attack.
They use intimidation.
They try to silence you.
They try to censor you.
Then they use the courts and the judiciary to bankrupt you, which they've done with me successfully, and then to imprison you.
That is the sequence of events.
That's what they do.
Now, my film totally exposes it.
So anyone wants to see what's happening, make sure you watch the film.
It better be worth it.
And I just hope that if I'm sat in a prison cell, you guys are making sure the world is watching this film.
tim pool
What's the film called?
tommy robinson
It's called silence.
It's my pinned tweet.
It's the only place you'll find it because it's deleted.
Facebook, every other social media, including YouTube, have deleted it from existence.
It's on my pinned tweet.
It's called silence.
It's a total expose.
And I'm not just saying it because it's my work.
It's the most important work I've ever done.
And I think the most important expose from start to finish of the unholy alliance of the judiciary, the media, all of them conspiring and working together.
I catch every bit of it on covert recording.
I proved that they pay people to remain silent, they blackmail people.
It shows that they created a story, they created it, and they fed it to the entire globe to push a narrative.
I got in their way.
And then because of that, it shows the extreme lengths they will go to to destroy anyone who gets in their way.
And the reality is, this story was a total lie.
How many other lies are we being shown day in and day out by the weaponised media?
How many other of these stories are they pumping that push their narratives?
That's what the film is.
It's an important film.
And as I said, I knew.
I knew when I played that on the 27th of July.
I knew exactly what I was doing.
I was in tears trying to talk about it on the 27th of July because I knew that what I was about to put my family through, my children through, all of them through, and possibly have myself sentenced to death because that's what prison means for me.
But I also know that it's going to play its part in the mass awakening.
There's been a massive awakening happening now for years.
It's accelerated over the last six months.
I'm in the joyous position.
I get to walk the streets and see.
Even since this, when I've gone abroad, every country I've gone to, the public are on my side.
The British public are coming up.
Keep fighting, Tommy.
Keep fighting, yeah?
They're awake.
15 years ago when I was trying to talk about these issues, people weren't awake.
Now they're awake.
And all they're going to do is imprison me.
There's no win-win situation for them.
I'm in a win-win situation.
My cause is in a win-win situation.
For them, they either choose to let me off, because we will have a fight in quarterback, they choose to let me off, or they imprison me.
Either way, we win.
We've exposed them with a film.
You put me in jail, you bring more eyes.
There's nothing they can do.
There's nothing they can do to win in their cause.
Their cause to win is to try and regain some credibility for their corrupt judge.
Watch what I say when I get in court.
The world's citizen journalists will be in court.
I will make it very clear I'm not here to apologise.
My job as a journalist is to expose corruption.
That's exactly what I've done.
If the judge wants to send me to jail, he will be remembered.
Justice Nicklin was the judge that ruled against me.
He thinks he'll be remembered as the most senior media court judge in our history.
No he won't.
You're going to be remembered as the most corrupt Judge, in our history, 44 million people have seen your corruption.
I can't lose.
I come out of jail.
If I go to jail and come out, I come out with more credibility as a free speech absolutist and as a journalist than you could ever dream of.
You add to my support.
The only option that they have is to make a martyr of me if they want to.
unidentified
They think they've seen riots lately?
That would be a really... That's what this is about.
tommy robinson
That's what this is about.
These tactics and these imprisonment and all the free speech attack and sending people to jail for three years for a couple of words on Facebook is they know what's coming.
They know they're going to lock me up.
They know that.
And they know they're going to galvanize my support base like never before.
You think you saw Free Tommy Movement before?
Wait till you see what happens now.
The public were awake now.
They don't buy your lies anymore.
We have X. No matter what you say, we have a source of information that currently our viewership is through the roof.
It's probably more than the BBC.
So yeah, they're losing.
tim pool
They're losing, we win.
We've got a few minutes left, and considering the amount of people we have in The Depth, I think, you know, we'll do final thoughts.
So I don't know if, Tom, you want to say anything to close this out?
Final thoughts on what's going on?
unidentified
I'll donate my time to him.
tommy robinson
Tim, shows like this are the most important thing in the fight, yeah?
We have a battle, and mainstream media are the cancer, and these sorts of shows are the cure.
These are the only places you can have these discussions, unfiltered, unattached, without narratives and agendas.
People can sit and listen to this, they can agree with me, they can agree with mine, they can agree with any one of us.
But they've heard what we've said.
Not with a spin.
Not with a mainstream media putting headlines on it.
We are the future.
And they hate the fact that we're the future.
So I would say, if anyone's watching this, if you see any citizen journalists, even the ones that are starting off, make sure you support them.
Give them your support.
These shows cost money, they cost time.
Make sure you back and support anyone giving platform for freedom of speech.
We need to be sitting down with people who oppose our views at the minute and let the public decide after hearing the debates, not censoring them.
You need to look and learn from what they're doing to us because it's coming your way.
They're coming after your speech anyway.
They can't get the outcome they want without taking your speech.
So they're going to attack it.
And you, we've seen what happened with Keir Starmer within four weeks of him getting elected.
Vote for Donald Trump.
Bring back peace to the world.
tim pool
Where can people find you?
tommy robinson
You can find me on X at T Robinson New Era.
That's my main X account.
milo yiannopolous
Provided you delete that tweet.
tommy robinson
Yeah, I'll delete it.
Come on over.
tim pool
T Robinson New Era, you said?
tommy robinson
T Robinson, New Era, yeah.
T Robinson, New Era.
And again, just support... I have a campaign for freedom as well.
I'm going to fight this, yeah?
I'm going to fight this and essentially keep your eyes on October 28th and 29th at the High Court of London where the truth is on trial.
That's it.
I reported the truth.
My film is 100% factual.
I'm going to ask the judge, what is it in the film, Your Honour, that's not factual?
Oh, you don't have a problem with the fact that none of it's factual.
You have a problem with the fact that the public have seen it.
Your ability to mask the truth has gone.
The monopoly you've had has gone.
The censorship has gone.
Elon Musk, unless they take him out and murder him, is given a platform so that they're not in control of the narrative and they can't handle it.
They don't know what to do, which is why they're imprisoning grandmas and grandfathers in the UK.
They want to scare the public into silence.
They're using this as a January 6th.
I'm grateful for everyone who supported me through all of this.
I think we all have some dark days ahead.
unidentified
God bless you, brother.
milo yiannopolous
Thank you for everything.
unidentified
Yeah, I just, I think to wrap it up, I just want to say to the UK people, you know, I don't know how many times we've all thought about or you've thought about maybe how it was to hang out in the war room with Winston Churchill back in the day or William Wallace.
Maybe you thought about how it was to march with Martin Luther King for civil rights or any of the heroes of yesteryear, you know, but Tommy Robinson is your hero of today.
So, y'all have a lot of choices.
You can stay quiet, you can be scared by your government, you can let them scare you into silence, and years from now, generations from now, when your grandkids ask you, you can tell the story of what a free Great Britain used to be like, or you can tell them that Great Britain is still free today because you fought with Tommy Robinson, you fought with patriots like him.
tim pool
Where can people find you?
tommy robinson
Thanks, Don.
unidentified
Yeah, I'm at RealDonKeith on Twitter.
milo yiannopolous
I'm at Nero.
For Christians, that's our N-word.
We're reclaiming it from the Roman Empire who used to toss Christians to the lions.
That's the excuse I've come up with now for why I've still got this handle.
tim pool
All right.
unidentified
Okay, well, I am Lisa.
Thanks for coming, everybody.
I book for The Culture War, so make sure you log on and subscribe to Tenet.
milo yiannopolous
Nice to me, so you can get on the show.
unidentified
Yeah, be nice to me so you can get on the show.
That's correct.
milo yiannopolous
I'm the booker.
unidentified
Support Tommy, though.
Watch Silenced.
Watch and share Silenced for him.
And tune in here, Fridays, 10 a.m., for more wild stuff.
And I only book myself, like, once a year, so... Yeah, well, you can come whenever you want.
tim pool
I mean, we...
unidentified
If you hate at me, don't worry, I'm not gonna... You hate the hat, it's crazy.
Oh, thanks, babe.
You're the best.
milo yiannopolous
Yeah, she sent me this glamour shot of herself, and she's like, oh, you know me, I'm just white, working-class trash.
And then she says this, like, incredible, like, hair salon picture.
unidentified
I'm like, okay, alright, babe.
milo yiannopolous
People have seen her ex-profile.
unidentified
That one!
That one!
milo yiannopolous
She's like, you know me, I'm just me, I'm just white trash.
I'm like, uh-huh.
tim pool
I will stress this, because I know it's going to come up.
Cassandra and Lisa are two different people.
Oh, yes.
unidentified
So the people who help Cassandra are being like... There's this one, and there's monkeys.
tim pool
Yeah, we're very close.
unidentified
We're very close.
We have wildly different views on lots of things, and we're wildly the same on things, but Cassandra and I are different.
I don't book for IRL.
I only book for the Culture War.
Still be nice to me.
tim pool
It's a lot of work.
People don't understand, like, booking for two shows and setting up, like, we had five.
unidentified
This was crazy, what happened with Tommy's schedule.
This one was a wild ride for this one.
tommy robinson
It don't help that I'm floating between countries every day at the minute.
unidentified
No, that's true.
milo yiannopolous
Athens, Russia, I mean.
tim pool
And I'll say this too, my final thoughts.
You know, seeing the news coming out of the UK is crazy.
Seeing the conversation, seeing the clashes.
And you know, as you're saying, Tommy, like a January 6th moment.
I really do appreciate you joining us.
And very rarely, I think this may be the only virtual show we've ever done.
And it's because the restrictions and the censorship on you, Tommy.
I guess you can't even come to the United States, is that right?
tommy robinson
I can't now.
I had an invite from 10 members of Congress in 2019 and they blocked it.
45 British MPs wrote to the American Embassy in London to block it.
unidentified
I helped with that.
tommy robinson
That was four times more MPs than have ever mentioned the grooming scandal in the UK.
unidentified
We got really close.
I was on the phone with CBP all the way up until the day that he was supposed to come.
I believe it was November 18th.
I won't forget it because I worked on it so hard.
We had somebody ready to approve it and then at the last minute they got another call from the government and they said no.
That's great.
Is government.
tim pool
Yeah.
Well, everybody, thank you all so much for hanging out and watching.
You can follow me, of course, on Axe at Timcast.
We'll be back 8 p.m.
tonight for Timcast IRL, so youtube.com slash timcast IRL.
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