The Culture War #65 Escaping Communism, The Evils Of The Chinese Communist Party w/ Xi Van Fleet & Lily Tang Williams
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Xi Van Fleet @XiVanFleet (X)
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Number four time on TeamCast, and good to see my friends here.
And Congressional candidate in New Hampshire Second District.
Like Shiva and Flea, we both survived Mao's Cultural Revolution, and we actually grew up in the same city, Chengdu, Sichuan, China, except I guess I myself was a little bit fortunate I was not sent to re-educational camp during Mao's Cultural Revolution, but I still went through the 10 years, you know, political, social, chaos, indoctrination, and of course poverty.
So I'm happy to hear on the cultural world for the first time.
So I'm gonna jump right into the mix, but then I will pull it back and we'll talk a little bit more generally about your experiences under communism, especially the re-education camp, but this question I've just had in my mind for a while.
Would you be happy if the Republic of China government of Taiwan took over mainland China and brought back the Republic government?
The story makes me so sad that when the Republic of China government fled the mainland to Taiwan, they were planning to mount an offensive to storm the mainland and save the country from communism, and they were unable to do so.
And since then, they've been a government... You know, it's funny because we call it just Taiwan, but actually they consider themselves the official government of China.
unidentified
Absolutely, yeah.
I think this is a shining example of two I consider countries, two countries and two systems, and the difference.
And it's not about Taiwan is better, it's the system is better.
And their system is democratic.
And also, I think this is important to know that the nationalists, the Kuomintang, they were not perfect.
They have a lot, they are totalitarian.
No, no, no, I'm sorry.
They are authoritarian government, very corrupt.
But they're not communists.
They're not communists.
That's the most important thing.
That makes it possible to reform it and to change it.
And that's exactly what happened.
It's really good that you draw that distinction.
That's something that Americans don't really think of very much the difference between authoritarianism and totalitarianism Authoritarianism for people that aren't aware of what the you know, the difference distinction is Authoritarians are perfectly fine with you hating their guts Just so long as you shut up and do what you're told right if you step out of line They're gonna the boots gonna come down blah blah blah totalitarians can't deal with you thinking differently.
That's why you get re-education camps in communist China, because they need to change the way you think, and that's why communism typically has so many atrocities associated with it, because they're not trying to just tell you what to do, which you can get people to do what you want to do through threats of force from the state.
They're trying to remake human beings into a different Kind of person they're trying to change the way you think and you cannot do that You cannot remake man every time it's been tried in history.
It ends with piles and piles of dead bodies Have have you both seen the show three body problem?
I Saw the oh, I don't have time for the whole show, but I did see the opening scene and The opening?
Yes, my three uncles were sent to re-educational camps in the countryside from the city of Chengdu.
From 8 years, 10 years, to 12 years.
And parents had no choice.
Your kids must go or your parents will be going to educational camps.
So it was a very difficult time to see my uncle only come home once a year, including one of my favorite uncles still in China.
Today I gave him my nine pennies I had in my pocket to say goodbye.
And when I shook hands with David Hawk after I destroyed him on gun control debate, I said, David, I'm sorry about what happened to you during the, you know, the shooting and the tragic incident.
But I said, please do Google Mao's Cultural Revolution and the Red Guards.
I don't want you to be, you know, ended up like them to be thrown under the bus, used for politics.
I hope someday he will Google, he will actually, you know, think about what I said to him.
You know, we were, we were respectful each other at the end, you know.
unidentified
Sure, and that's a great point to bring up, that you both mentioned the Red Guard.
The way that the Red Guard worked in China was to turn the established power, it was basically used to weaken the established power, so that way Mao could get into his position.
And then once Mao was in power, he needed to get rid of them.
And that's what happens Again, consistently this is what happens.
The revolutionaries, the ones that will attack the existing power structure, become a liability after the revolution.
So they have to be disposed of.
All you people out there that think that you're gonna be like, you're gonna be like working in some like nice kitchen making muffins for people after the revolution.
No!
Turn and face the wall is what the Chinese do.
They do terrible things.
I'm not Chinese.
The communists do.
That's what they did in China.
They were just killing people off.
There is no way out for the activists.
They end up going to the gulag and getting disposed of, just like the counter-revolutionaries, just like everybody else.
All the people that would fight back get disposed of.
Absolutely.
They know the looters and they thought now it's their day.
You know, it's encouraged.
There's no consequences.
They were allowed just like the Red Guards.
They are allowed and when they got power, They are the first one to go.
Also, people got to understand, why did Mao start his Cultural Revolution?
That guy is a mass murderer and psychopath.
Every three, five years in China, when he was leader, he start new campaign.
It's always identity politics.
It's always go after certain group people.
During the land reform in the 50s, go after landlords.
Too many landlords!
were shot to death and take their land.
And he did not give back to peasants who believed him in communism.
He actually said, let's have a people's commune.
That worked out great.
Then he caused mass famine.
That's why he lost his supreme leader status and Liu Shaoqi become president.
Guess what?
He was not happy.
He traveled outside of Beijing, used the Beijing Tsinghua University Students' Movement to get rid of those political enemies inside of China's Communist Party.
So eventually, he started a new campaign called the Destroy the Four Oaths and used identity politics between five black categories and the red five categories to fight each other tooth and nail.
Then 20 million people died during 10 years Cultural Revolution.
unidentified
Yeah, you mentioned the red personalities and the black personalities, the communists and the non-communists, which there's something similar that's going on in society nowadays with the LGBT people.
If you're LGBT, if you have any kind of LGBT identity that absolves you of being just a cis, white, hetero, normal, whatever, You know, the bad identity is if you can adopt an LGBT identity, it's just like if you were adopting a red identity.
It's getting you out of having the black identity in China.
All these things that these wonderful ladies here are explaining and relating to us, these experiences that they have seen firsthand.
The reason that they're speaking up, the reason they're writing books, the reason that Lilly's running in New Hampshire is because they have seen this happen in another country and there's all sorts of things that they see happening here now.
You know, this is an active, real threat to the United States.
Absolutely.
And I would say what's going on in today's America is Maoism with American characteristics.
And there's a lot of things about Maoism.
One is a weaponized political identity.
And that started in the 50s, early 50s, during the land reform.
And so they divided people into two classes, one red, one black, and you can figure out black are the ones that have properties, have land, they're the enemy, and then the rest are proletarian.
And that is the beginning of political Identity.
And they become part of you.
That's important.
It's not just you have identity.
It becomes part of your DNA because you pass it down to your children and your children's children.
And you're all considered black class or red class.
And that is how Mao weaponized identity.
Why he want to do that?
To divide people.
Why he want to divide people?
To control them.
I've heard stories that like when, where the Red Guard, the young people in school and stuff, they were turning against their parents because that was a way that they could get a red identity.
They could get away from having the black identity.
If I turn my parents in, I can get acceptance from my friends at school.
Essentially is what it boiled down to, which again is something that you see in today's society with like the LGBT stuff.
There's so many people that are like, oh, if I go ahead and call my parents bigots and call them names and stuff, my LGBT friends and stuff will accept me.
And the LGBT, I guess the activists is what you'd call them.
You know, they encourage people to to isolate from their parents and stuff, which is so similar to the stuff that you guys have related.
- Well, the mouse five black categories, basically it's under oppressor.
You have peasants and workers, and oh, you know, for the, that's red.
So black is a landowners, rich farmers, rightist, bad influencers, and the country revolutionary.
Three of them sounds very subjective.
It's a fluid.
You can be black, then if you denounce your family, throw your parents under the bus, and change your last name and come out publicly, the lungs your family's background associations say, I'm done with my family.
Then you become red child.
Then you can join Mouth Red Guard, you can join Young Pilear.
So, comedies always want to destroy nuclear families.
Your loyalty should align with the party, with the super leader, not to your family members.
That's what they do.
I saw the South Carolina, a high school kid, a girl going to school board Let me make it bigger so I can see it better.
There you go.
racism, bigots, I feel so sad.
It's like, wow, what is going on in America?
It's like just kind of give me PTSD.
This happened during mouse cultural revolution.
Do our kids even know that?
That's why parents got to know the same minorities and speak up.
Huge crowds of people all cheering as they beat people.
Yes, and some, everyone suffered some kind of physical attack.
Some were beaten to death right there.
And I have a friend, and because I was in elementary school, and it did not happen.
These kids are too small.
In middle school, high school, college, absolutely.
And my friend, Middle school, that's like 10 year olds, right?
10, 11, 12?
Yes, yes, absolutely.
And so she witnessed the kids, kids, little kids, force their principal to take in human faces.
And there's no principal in China that did not suffer this kind of struggle.
Zero.
All of them.
All of them.
You hear stories, again, this is something that you hear stories similar in the U.S.
It's not quite as bad, but like there's still stories where kids were hollering down their college professors because their college professor had the wrong opinion and they'll do something even if they don't, again, making a teacher eat feces is pretty extreme, but like, In the show, you see this woman here on the right of the screen.
Spoilers!
The show's been out for a little bit, so if you haven't seen it.
- They apologized, demanding that they step down from positions and stuff like that, which is-- - Online struggle session.
It's very popular nowadays. - In the show, you see this woman here on the right of the screen.
Spoilers, the show's been out for a little bit, so if you haven't seen it.
So this woman, there's a woman in the crowd, and I believe that's her dad, and she watches her dad get murdered.
That woman gets sent to re-education camps to do forced labor, but when they find out that she actually has understanding of radio science and astrophysics or whatever, they decide she's useful now, and so we'll bring her in so long as she swears fealty.
The young woman who actually beats her dad to death gets sent to a gulag to break rocks.
I do want to comment on how they divide people and how they win the people that belong to the black category or the black class and that we have a term for that nowadays in America, allies.
The swastika was in the United States extremely popular, and in the East still is, as just a symbol that is viewed positively.
In the early 1900s, if you go to Chicago, for instance, growing up there, we knew one house on the south side of Chicago had a big swastika on the front of the building.
It was built into the bricks.
And so they bolted in blocks to turn the swastika into a square.
Because in the early 1900s, it was just a symbol of good fortune and good luck.
So Hitler takes that symbol of good fortune, good luck, hope, peace, whatever, and turns it into a symbol of genocide and maniacal oppression.
When we look at that symbol today, we think it represents a horrifying movement and ideology.
The rainbow.
This beautiful symbol of colors in the sky, taken by the communists today, and they make a flag for it, I would not be surprised that should we win against the modern iteration of communism and whatever this weird authoritarian cult is, we will look back and look at the rainbow flag and people will be like, no, you can't, and it'll be akin to the swastika.
unidentified
She you mentioned earlier in passing you mentioned the four olds which is something I want you to articulate because that's something that again we're seeing here in the US people don't realize it but all of the the attempts to take down Take down U.S.
history.
So it started out with things that could be, you know, the arguments that they made.
If you take them at face value, like, all right, that makes sense.
I understand where you're coming from.
Maybe these these the Confederate statues should be in a museum.
If you take it at face value.
But the point isn't actually about the people that isn't about actually taking it down because of the racism.
It's taking it down because of the history.
Can you go ahead and talk about that?
The past.
What the communists want to destroy is the past.
And they want you to forget where you're from, you forget your heritage, so that you just blindly go to the future with them.
And so the four O's is their cancel culture.
And what they stand for?
It stands for old ideas, old culture, old custom, and old habits.
The Red Guard, I just pulled it up on Wikipedia, desecrated the tombs of the Wan Lai emperor, dragged the remains of the emperor and his empresses to the front of the tomb where they were denounced and burned.
And this is what we see with ISIS destroying ancient historical sites.
unidentified
Not only that, but again, it's like, as much as there are people that are gonna defend the arguments that were made, that was the point about taking down Confederate statues, right?
Any symbols, anything.
And then what did they do?
Of course, not only that, but anything that is old.
Statues, statues, and names.
You can't have an old name that somehow remind people of virtue, of their past, has to be destroyed.
Street names.
They've done that with military bases.
Fort Bragg is now, I believe, Fort Liberty.
They changed Fort Bragg to Fort Liberty.
They've done that with a bunch of military bases.
They've done that with, or they are doing it, with other Founding Fathers because they were slave owners.
Not that they were actually fighting for the Confederacy.
They were just Founding Fathers in a time where slavery was ubiquitous globally.
There wasn't a place in the world that didn't practice slavery at that time, right?
But because these men existed in that time, they must be... Hans Christian Hagen.
who was a slave, they destroyed his statue as well.
They masquerade as we oppose racism and that's why we're doing it, but they're really just trying to destroy symbols of American history and things like the roots of this country.
Well, if you look at the past 36 years since I come to this country, country, I feel there is some kind of agenda and a movement behind all these social issues to use that to destroy American traditions, American exceptionalism, and American values.
And it's no longer a single issue.
You look at the past, right?
From the 1619 Project to demonize America, a systemic racist country.
And to CRT, which is not popular now, to DEI, and to transgender movement, or trans rights, and to whatever, you know, it's no longer a single issue, it's always connected, supported by the same group of people.
You know, I chose some communist socialist ex-accounts, they all are promoting the same thing, get the college students to be used to go out, wah-wah-wah, you know, some may be paid professional agitators, but some might be just the naive college students feel like I want to be part of movement like the Red Guards were.
So if you look at those, you know, connections, connect the dots, you know, I talked about 12 features, Mao's Cultural Revolution, my ex, and lots of them are very similar today about the tactics.
They have to rewrite history, and they have to make our kids not to learn real history.
So they can repeat history, they can replace with something called authoritarianism, socialism, or communism, whatever.
China Communist Party is very smart.
When they saw the burning wall falling down, they said we're not going to be like Soviet Union, formal Soviet Union.
We're going to expand internationally to export.
They are also telling them to export Communist Party ideologies.
And now look at their global power.
Look at their threat in Taiwan.
And they're behind the breaks, and they're behind Iran, North Korea, and Russia, and Cuba.
As long as the Chinese Communist Party is in power, which is the largest totalitarian country in the world, we're going to have to fight this kind of evil ideology.
Someone said, what are y'all going to do once communism is achieved?
The person responds, building gardens, teaching classes on my farm, creating organizing spaces, and cultivating resources for my community.
Basically, what I'm planning to do anyway, but without fighting capitalism.
The response, your farm?
These people live in this fictional world where, you know, so we were talking about this last night, you know, do these young communists really believe what they believe?
The young communists don't believe in communism.
They don't know anything with it.
They don't know what it is.
And so, you know, I think it was Alex Stein was asking us, like, what is communism?
And I'm like, he was like, what is socialism?
What is communism?
Like, socialism just refers to the economics.
Communism refers to the political structure, which does have socialism within it.
The issue is, young people who are manipulated are told by the communists, you should have no work, free stuff.
You could live in a big house, you could have a dog, and you can wake up every day and do anything you want.
And they're like, really?
It's like, yep, the only reason you can't is because capitalists won't let you, because they want you to be their slaves.
And they go, wow, trust us.
Once we have communism, you'll be free.
I once got into an argument with, I think it was the British Socialist Party.
And I asked them, under socialism, will I be able to, say, build a car?
And they were like, do you need to build a car?
And I was like, well, I like building cars.
I've bought the parts, I'm restoring a car in my garage, it's something I do in my spare time, it's fun, it keeps me... And they said, well then yes, if you can, you should be allowed to.
I said, where do I get the parts from?
And they said, you'll simply go down to the factory and request the parts.
They'll give them to you.
And I said, for free?
Like, yes.
And I was like, so, even though I don't work for an auto manufacturer, they will give me- and so what if- what about everybody else who wants to make a car?
They're like, of course!
Yeah, anybody- anybody who wants to do literally anything will get free stuff from everyone.
That's not possible.
unidentified
Yeah, this is absolutely the consequence of not teaching real history, and so people don't know.
You don't have to figure it out, because communism has a history of, you know, it's a 100-year, more than 100-year history.
There's enough story to learn what it is, but They don't teach it because they don't want to teach people the real history.
And what is communism?
There are many ways to tell the story, but the one thing is your work.
Why?
Because work is how you reform your mind.
And so, what kind of work... I want to put a pin on that because this, what you're saying, work is how you free your mind?
That's what the Nazis had over the entryway at Auschwitz.
Actually, I have an idea for you guys to host a debate right here, and me and Xi Wanfu Li with two communist, socialist leaders, professors, or activists.
That would be awesome, because I'm all for open debate.
Say, those kids tell me and Xi Wanfu Li, oh, you did not survive real communism.
We were starved and we saw the killing, the violence, we were demonized and we had no freedom of speech and thought and totally indoctrinated and they told us we did not survive real communism.
I'm imagining someone with a vial of sulfuric acid, and they splash it in the face of another person who is singed and burned.
That person who was burned says, I was splashed with sulfuric acid, and then some crackpot hippie goes, no, that wasn't real acid, because real acid's magic, and it does all these wonderful things.
It's like, no, listen, communism is acid.
It burns and destroys.
Just because you think it's something different doesn't change the fact that it is acid.
unidentified
Yeah, and you describe it as acid.
That's, and I've heard, actually heard James Lindsay, uh, describe it as this ideology as like societal acid.
And it really is a great way to describe it because it breaks down the foundations of your society first.
Like you guys were talking about how the Red Guard really made the power structure, uh, it made, made, you know, it made it, uh, made it possible for Mao to come in and take, take power.
So like, I want you guys to go ahead and articulate a little bit more about what your experience was when things were actually happening.
Like, Lily, can you tell me about what it was like when you were hearing your uncles were getting sent to the Gulag and what was your experience there?
Yes, they were fighting each other for power struggle.
They got a hold of guns, too.
So people died and bodies flowing down the river.
The Chinese general told Mao, You got to do something with those violent young kids, and they have no school, school was shut down by Mao.
So Mao got this brilliant idea.
Yeah, let's send them to countryside, send them away.
I go to Beijing, become supreme leader, I'm finished with those young kids.
Threw them under the bus, and all the urban youth, millions of them, go to countryside for decades.
And when you go to countryside, like my uncles did, You could not even get married, because if you marry a local person in the rural China, you are not allowed to come back to cities anymore.
Your household registration, your personnel file will be stuck, you know, in the countryside.
So my uncle went there at 17, come home 27, no wife, no high school diploma, and very bitter, and just basically worked through all his adult life.
unidentified
And so when he came back, he really couldn't just assimilate back into normal life, right?
There was still an underclass, which is something that people say, communists in the U.S.
like to say, oh, you know, our punitive system, our jail system, it makes people so they, you know, there's recidivism and they can't get a job after they get out and stuff.
Our young people need to know, how did those Red Guards worked so hard, fight back, to move back to the cities, they threatened the regime, mass suicide, lie their bodies on the railway tracks to say, you'll need us to come back, or we're going to kill ourselves.
We cannot live like this.
And that got the provincial government attention and the central government attention.
Okay, if your parents retire from state factories, have a job waiting for you, then you can come back to the cities.
And so gradually, my three uncles come back.
But the thing is, their life is very sad.
unidentified
So someone had to retire before they could come back?
Yeah, my grandparents have to retire to give them a job.
Otherwise, they are afraid they coming back to revolution again and rise up against the ruling class.
They will be violent again.
Cultural revolution repeats.
OK, so you only have to come back if your parents retire, have a job for you.
And their whole generation is very sad.
But lots of people are not even taught that.
In China's internet, our young people in China, you cannot Google, like, Tiananmen Square Massacre, Mao's Cultural Revolution, you know, Red Guards, all these censored words.
That's a communist tactic, these censored words.
Not just rewrite history.
You cannot even use those words anymore.
You cannot find them, the truth.
unidentified
And I want to put a pin in something you said.
She is talking about Google, right?
Like, this is actually Google.
This is the Google that's here.
So if you think that the Google that is in America is different to the Google... No, it's not allowed.
I was there, the last time was 2020, and absolutely, the moment you step out of the plane in China, YouTube, Twitter, nothing.
Facebook, everything.
But I do want to explain something to your audience about what Lily described, and it's called household registration system.
What does that mean?
This is such a foreign concept to most of the people in the world.
As soon as the communists took over China, they tried to control the population.
How do they control it?
Everyone has to register at your place of birth.
If you're a peasant, you're registered as a rural, you become a part of the rural population, and in the city, and so everyone has, it's like a little internal passport, but that determine That determines for the city people whether you get any rations.
Everything's based on that.
And you can't move from one place to another.
And if I live in Chengdu, I decided I want to go to live in Beijing, you can't do that because the household registration system would not allow you.
If you are rural, you can't just come to the city.
And today, it's a little bit loosened, but it's still the same.
I cannot move to Beijing and enjoy all the basic social services provided by the government for that city.
And if you are a rural population, the same thing.
So they can't They are the ones, the peasants, are the ones that provide the cheap labor that create the boom.
But they could not take their kids with them and to send them to school.
They have to pay a lot of money and they could not afford it.
I can give everybody out there a tip for those who play video games.
I don't know if this is true, but it sounds true that someone said they were playing on a multiplayer game online with someone from China who is griefing them.
So they sent him a direct message saying Tiananmen Square and their account instantly disappeared.
And to add to that, when people all know about China's social credit system, right, which is online on cell phone tracking you now and give you rating score kind of like ESG or the old vaccine passport they were trying to promote.
But it's traced back.
to China PRC funding that household registration.
My parents got married with the Communist Party blessing because my dad was a Communist Party member.
You had to get a party board to prove your marriage, prove your spouse, do research on your spouse.
Then they go register a local police station.
We're married.
We live here.
Here's our jobs.
When I was born as the first child of three children, And I was added to the household.
You use that.
Go to local government to get a food rationing coupon, get a health care benefit.
Otherwise, if you don't register, you don't get guaranteed family food even.
That's how they always control the food supply, your health care, your work units.
They call the work units basically your employers and your housing.
So they control everything.
You cannot live.
You cannot live off the grid without them, so you must register.
That's why people always say, why Chinese are so passive?
There are like 100 million Christians in China, only 90 million Chinese Communist Party members, the tyranny of the minority ruling over the majority.
Of course there's no democracy, but why they're so passive?
One person rise up against the regime, your entire family is at risk.
That's why so many people in this country, Chinese Americans today, are silenced, are not political, not speak up like she and I, because we're from Sichuan, we have fire in our belly.
Yeah, once you were Chinese, you're always Chinese in their mind.
I am American citizen, they asked me to shut up and be silenced in this country.
Well, I said, I have freedom of speech now.
I was silenced in China for 24 years.
I'm not going to silence here.
And plus, I said, like, living a free state, live free or die, the death is not worse of evil.
Yeah, try harder to threaten me.
But lots of Chinese have families, they have business, and they are being censored on WeChat.
So, so my, my, my, my...
Classmate group in China.
I don't know what they posted.
60 classmates were banned.
So now it's like I can only talk to my friends one-to-one, but I cannot talk to, you know, big group anymore because they're watching you 24-7, and people are very quiet.
You cannot talk anything political.
You can only talk about non-political stuff, and they're infiltrating our country.
You don't know.
Maybe 30,000, 35,000 Chinese spies at the northern border.
How many of them come in as a military age, man?
It's very scary stuff.
They're here.
unidentified
Yeah.
I mean, not that I don't I don't expect you guys to have any kind of inside information about like what is coming, what like what kind of influx of of Chinese nationals has come through the southern border.
But could you speak to what the CCP is likely to to to do to try to influence the United States policy and stuff like that?
I think of course we don't know, because no one seems to know who are coming in.
But this I can tell people, yes, that's a concern, it's an issue.
The people who are here, legally sent by the CCP, they are already in places, like in universities, in research institutions, in corporations, they are in place.
So yes, we can worry about the new illegal coming in, but I think they are Lesser a worry for me.
My view is that TikTok is effectively an attack by the CCP on the younger generation in the United States to destroy their brains, and you gut the root of the country, and then as they age, the country becomes destabilized.
And this is exemplified by, it's a minority stake the CCP's got in TikTok, but they're refusing to sell, and they're laying people off instead of doing it.
You know, even if you are gay, you have to be closeted gay.
And you know, Taiwan, Hong Kong are more open.
Say, I'm a libertarian.
If you're an adult, whatever life you want to choose to live, whatever, it's fine.
I respect that, you know.
But if you do mess with our children, then mama bears and daddy bears should rise up to protect your children.
Because children are not able to still think critically.
They're not adults.
That's why we have child protection laws.
But I see this is their soft power by CTP to infiltrate into the West, to do the Western Cultural Revolution, to replace with their globalist agenda.
And because China has Xi Jinping's China dream, which is by 2049, they want to be the number one global power, militarily, diplomatically, economically, and, you know, technologically.
We have been so naive.
Think about China would become a more democratic country if they just joined WTO, would trade with them.
Look, foreign companies, foreign investment are leaving China now, because Xi Jinping is ideologue.
And it's like New Mao, basically.
He's doing Cultural Revolution 2.0, but he's using his soft power, Silk Road Initiative, police stations, Confucius Institute, all the pro-citizen Chinese trade groups inside the United States, and the universities.
They gave money to universities.
Yale School had a campus, like some Yale Center.
When I visited China in 2015, doing student All those are part of China's United Front targets.
So you talk about Chinese newspapers, Chinese churches, and the Wall Street, our corporation boardrooms.
There are lots of things happening in this country.
That's why those people don't want to interview me, except Epoch Times, NTDTV, because I speak the truth, because that's my duty as an American citizen.
It doesn't matter what threats I face.
I'm sure they're going to interfere with my campaign and supply to my opponents, because I'm threat, I speak the truth.
But I just want to warn people, you know, if you still think China is going to become a more democratic country like Taiwan or under Xi Jinping, You are delusional.
This is a different kind of CCP regime now.
It's not like in the 90s, opening up, doing economy.
Xi does not even care about the economy, because he locked people down for two years during COVID.
My friends were inside their apartment for 10 weeks, having mental breakdowns, welding their apartment doors.
You cannot get out to buy, to shop for food.
Do you think that if China were to attack Taiwan, the U.S.
that we need to really probably not to rely on China.
And we can engage, we can try to work with them, but if you just cotto to them, it's not gonna work. - Do you think that if China were to attack Taiwan, the U.S. should get involved to defend Taiwan?
has agreement, actually, to say we will defend Taiwan, but we recognize, you know, like one China.
That's their agreement.
But today, because we grew up, they always say, let's liberate Taiwan someday.
We've been here all our lives.
So, and now with China's economy is bad, and the U.S.-China relationship is heating up, and Xi Jinping is not predictable, and to distract Chinese people from folks on bad economy, domestic unrest, and internal power struggle, you don't know what he's going to do.
We need to be prepared.
That's why I have been saying you need to decoupled from China, we need to not rely on them for lots of critical supplies, and we need to secure our border, and then we need not to also poke the bear.
Not to poke!
So, for example, Taiwan will not declare independence, and just status quo, and trying to contain China, deter the war, because we are the country of now, rely on China, borrow from China, you know, to expand out of control deficit spending, So we cannot afford to have a world on fire.
The United States is everywhere.
So we need to contain China, but also decouple from China.
Rely on ourselves instead of relying on them.
Rely on our more, you know, friendly allies in the region, like, you know, South Korea, Japan, you know, there are other countries.
And so I think, you know, when I go to Congress, I will offer invaluable insight and, you know, feedback, because I stick to Chinese news in Mandarin Chinese every day.
And I have friends like Xi Van Foley and other people who tell me what's going on in China.
But we need to have a very sensible Chinese policy.
What I think we should ask your story again, Lily, about how you escaped.
But I'm curious, Xi, how you escaped.
Was it difficult to get out of China, and did they try to pull you back in?
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Well, so after Mao died, and CCP was really on its deathbed.
So this is something I try to remind Americans.
We, the Americans, helped to revive our CCP.
We played an important role, not only to revive it and to help it to become the second economic power in the world, And that's something that we can't just say that CCP did everything right.
We helped them.
But going back to what happened after the Cultural Revolution, really everything was in ruins.
Deng Xiaoping, the successor, He had no choice, really no choice.
He had to do something.
So he had this famous doctrine.
Black cat, white cat, as long as it catches a mouse, it's a good cat.
Whatever it is, if it can survive, if it can save the CCP from...
Just disappearing.
And we'll do it.
That's why he opened China up and invited the foreign investment.
So everything started to opening up.
And then that was the time that we were allowed.
to go to study abroad.
So, people say I was like a refugee.
I'm not a refugee.
I came here on the plane, okay?
Not on the boat.
So, and I think the same with Lily.
And since then, since the early 80s, people could come.
And it was not easy to get the passport.
To get the passport, you have to, you know, get permission from your Your employer, your boss, your party, and you have to pledge that you will come back to save, to serve your motherland and all that.
You keep saying you flee China, but you come here on a plan, but I say, well, if you imagine, without lying, Without escape, and you tell them the truth, I'm gonna come to United States, I will never go back!
Do you think they're gonna let me to leave?
And I have to carefully, I also cannot tell anybody, I'm gonna come here, live under freedom.
I'm never going back to that totalitarian country.
But You know, I could not tell anybody.
I feel so alone, except my former boyfriend.
I told him I'm not going back.
You know, that's why we had a very loose relationship.
Goodbye at the airport to say, I don't know where I'm going to see you each other.
And of course, we'll separate away.
You know, I met my husband first night in Austin, Texas.
But I feel like, you know, my nightmare now for first 10 years in this country, I was still dreaming about I was stuck in China.
I could not leave.
And I missed the boat.
I had to change myself into a mermaid, dig a hole on the ground to swim across the Pacific Ocean.
So that's why, you know, I feel freedom, liberty is my North Star, because if you feel you could be trapped there forever, I don't know what I'd be doing today, you know?
And real quick, if you go to any of these encampments where they have the People's Library, if you try to do anything that defies their control, they will use force against you.
It's not the People's Library.
unidentified
Proletarian dictatorship.
Yeah.
Anyway, so a quick story so you understand how money works.
So the peasants have no choice what to plant, what to do.
It's all order from the party leaders.
So every morning we would go to the gathering place and then the production team leader, party leader would say, we do this today, you know, you do this, this, whatever, and we get points.
Point is, you use that later during harvest time to get food, to get what you produce.
That means you have no cash.
The peasants have no cash, and usually they would sell their chickens or sell something, but that was considered capitalism.
And that had to be banned.
So they have no way of... The points doesn't give you anything.
They only give you food unless you use some of your surplus to sell and get cash.
There's no cash.
So we have three young people that are sent to this little production team.
So when our first trip back home for a little break, The peasants came to us and said, can you please buy a little walk, or just very, very basic kitchen utensils, because it's not even available in the countryside.
So I expect that they will pay us back, right?
You asked me to buy.
So three of us, we took some water, so we went back, and we still have money now from our parents.
Of course, when I grew up in the city, my parents worked for a state factory six days a week.
And so you use household registration booklet to go get your local food rationing, February rationing, sugar coupons, meat coupons, protein coupons.
So that's what our kids don't understand.
They think that if you go to people's commune, that you will just take whatever they need.
Actually, there's not enough sites.
unidentified
This is a really illustrative of why technology like Bitcoin actually is valuable.
Most Americans don't understand what it's like to not have access to get money, right?
It's like even people that are broke.
In the US, you can still kind of get access to money, whether it be begging or playing music on the street or something, you can get access to it.
The conditions that you're describing, there is no cash, right?
Like there is no, like nobody in town has any cash.
So something like Bitcoin that can be used, like that could be used in In one location, you could use Bitcoin like in just a village for people to exchange, you know, rice or chickens or eggs or whatever, those kind of things.
And it gives people the ability to actually interact with each other in an economic way that is impossible without cash, without some kind of thing.
And cryptocurrency is not just Bitcoin, but cryptocurrencies overall allow that kind of exchange to happen.
Well, that's why I was telling people I'm absolutely opposed to You can tell she's from New Hampshire.
She lives in New Hampshire.
She's perfect.
- Yes. - But I support the gold and silver, precious metals.
I like to invest in them.
I like to invest in crypto because, you know, that I don't want anybody track me and they're afraid your bank account, like the truckers for freedom in Canada.
unidentified
- You can tell she's from New Hampshire.
She lives in New Hampshire.
She's perfect.
She's perfect for New Hampshire. - Thank you, Phil.
And I said in my book, I tried to become a party member because I know if I become a party member, I may be able to get out of the countryside.
There's a lot of good things to go with being a party member.
But you have to prove yourself.
You have to work extra harder.
You have to say everything they want you to say.
You have to prove you have the correct thoughts.
So what you're articulating right now is something that, again, we see and Tim talks about a lot when he says that the people that are woke in the U.S., the majority of them don't know Like, the theory behind it.
They don't understand what they're doing.
They're just doing what they know is socially beneficial.
So they do things that are going to make sure that they're going to get the job, and they're not going to have to worry about their friends looking down, and they're not going to have to worry about their friends leaving.
Like, that's a bunch of social pressure that happens that's never articulated by anyone.
It's never spoken about, just everyone knows that if you have the wrong opinion, you're going to get looked down on and blah, blah, blah.
So this is, we already have the beginning, the foundation of a social credit system in the U.S.
And one of the things that we're doing now is desensitizing people to the concept, right?
Desensitizing people in the U.S.
to the concept of if your friends and family and everybody disapproves of it, there's a significant negative cost to that.
And then, so once the government, if the government ever intends to or tries to institute a social credit system that's actually something that you would be tracked on your phone or whatever, it's a concept that the people here are already familiar with and already have become comfortable with because they have fallen into doing it before the government mandated it.
I'm interested in implementing a social credit system in this country, and then giving all the communists zeros, and then all of a sudden communism is gone in this country.
Well, that's one of the reasons I feel That I have to run for public office to go to DC to use this platform to tell my stories.
We have seen enough of that control during the pandemic.
Remember how many people today, the silent majority today, lots of them are still afraid of speak up.
Because it's a canceled work culture.
If you're not actively, loudly, to be with them, then you can be called, your business will get canceled, and you will have the government come after you.
Maybe you get IRS audit.
I have people telling me, I cannot donate to your campaign because I will get audited by IRS.
It's so sad for me to say that.
I have been up front and loudly speaking up to say, if you're a silent majority, you think you can keep your head down and everything will be over?
So he said to kill all the birds because the birds were eating the seeds, but the birds were actually eating the pests, and so then... He said they're not Chinese birds.
unidentified
The argument that he was making, he's like, they're not communist birds.
They don't have the spirit of the Chinese people in them.
That's when the dictator running the country is whatever.
So everything he did is a mass movement.
Everything.
It has to be.
Everyone has to get involved.
Everyone has to participate.
You can't just say, hey, I'm out.
You have to.
Okay, so that was a very good example of how insanity took over China under Mao.
So Mao started, it's 1949, non-stop political campaign.
One after another, sometimes several in the same time.
Every one of them left millions and millions of people dead.
And so by 1959, he felt like it is time to focus on the economy.
You know, the political campaign stabilized his rule, so it's all good.
Now let's focus on the economy.
You think he would think about improving the Chinese economy to improve people's living standards?
No way.
He want people to do one thing, making steel.
He want to, in 15 or 10, 15 years, to surpass the steel production of UK and United States.
And then later said, no, we can do it in eight years.
We can do seven years.
Eventually, they can do it in two years, because they have 600 million Chinese at their disposal.
Everyone now, everyone will just do one thing, steel production.
So peasants, Peasants, city dwellers, and the kids, they all got involved in steel production.
And so, the homemade furnaces set up everywhere.
And how do they make steel?
Well, everyone was asked to search in the household.
Anything that's made of metal, doorknobs, kitchen utensil, had to be thrown into the furnace, and they all come out junk.
Yes.
And what happened after that?
The crop failed.
Yeah.
Because no one was attending their fields.
And that was the beginning of the Great Famine.
You're articulating the problems that come from central planning because you cannot predict what is going to happen when you make a massive decree like that.
Something as broad as get rid of the sparrows or give us all the steel or whatever.
But this is also the meme where it's the fat, slovenly, woe-jack saying, I live in my parents' basement, I've never had a job, I'm overweight, out of shape, but here's how I would fix government.
That's why our kids, if they don't understand history, of course they're going to repeat it.
Here's another thing I want to add to what she said.
that Mao went to the countryside and tried to compete with the Soviet Union because he fell out with the Soviet Union starting that time and said, we're going to pass the Soviet Union in agricultural output.
So he went to the countryside, told the peasants how to grow food by putting crops really close together.
But because he's supposed to be a super leader, the parents are afraid to tell him what they think they should plan.
And so they have to follow the super leader's central directive.
And that when people starving to death after they turn over their food to the government, they have nothing left to eat.
And local leaders of Communist Party will not tell the central government, oh, we have a starvation now in our village.
Sichuan, my home province, with its most agricultural arable land, never happened the mass starvation before, mass famine before.
But because of crazy center leadership, Mao's economic policies, asked me 50 million people peasants in the countries that supported communism and thought they're going to have land, they're going to have food, and they were starving to death.
And the worst part is that when their children died, so sad, they could not eat their own children's bodies to survive.
Communism was documented in Sichuan.
They switched people's children's bodies to survive.
And our kids should learn that part of history.
Oh, they think communism is wonderful.
I would just have my own, you know, this or that.
You know, you live in a utopian society in your head.
unidentified
Can I add, of the danger of central planning?
Yes.
And just a group of people or just one person make decision for the whole country.
That's what Mao believed.
The more people, the better.
He said the more people will make the fire go higher.
So he encouraged Chinese population to have more babies, to compete with Soviet Union because after World War II, Stalin encouraged the Russian women to have more babies.
If you have more, you get Hero mother awards, things like that.
He did the same thing.
So he believed just by pure manpower, he can achieve what he had in his mind.
And then what happened?
And then a lot of the population boom.
And then it's too much.
One-child policy.
One-child policy.
One-child policy is, you know, this is a crime committed by the CCP that not talked enough.
It's just the biggest crime ever committed on women.
Pregnant women were dragged Haunted down and dragged to the hospital to have forced abortion.
Young women of childbearing age have to show their period, report to the street committee.
So make sure you're not pregnant without planning.
You're giving a quota to allow to have a child.
But this is all because a bunch of people, they control the entire nation.
And when they make mistakes, they correct it.
Whoever, whatever, the people are the ones that suffer.
I pulled this up, it's a website documenting what was going on, and it's funny, it says that the Red Guard were radical and causing problems, so that's when the government decided to send the students to the countryside to work.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's kind of ironic though, because many of the communists in this country haven't done any work ever, and would benefit from doing some legitimate farm work.
Not an illegitimate get-em-out-of-the-cities, but spend two weeks on a farm learning to tend to some animals might change your views on communism.
See, this is again, this is something that we speak, talk about a lot here.
Feminism in the US nowadays, essentially, it looks at women and says, you should try to be like a successful man.
Yeah, exactly.
And that's, and that's the productivity, have the, the, be the boss and et cetera, as opposed to you should be a, the, the, I'm searching for the word.
So when they left it, that's why they crack me up.
When they always say, well, for women's rights, for women's choice, only on abortion.
But look, they're canceling real women now.
And they're allowing biological men to go to prisoner cells, because they identify as women, they crush girls sports and, and, you know, and cancel Title 19 or reamend the policy.
And I said, Are you kidding me if you're still a moderate Democrat?
If you are still so-called traditional feminists, you should be alarmed.
What are they trying to do?
Basically, they are canceling real women and mothers.
Remember, you cannot even say, you know, mothers anymore.
And at the same time, they allow this six-foot dude, you know, go to the woman's cell.
And, you know, he had even a history of raping women, and the judge who did that now is promoted or supposed to be confirmed by being a judge.
It's all about the ideology.
It's not about a woman, children, or the minority.
They will use you.
Leftists, Marxists, progressives will use you to achieve the agenda.
So I always say to people, Please, if you're still Democrat, you cannot vote for them anymore.
Walk away.
The party who is controlling Democrats now, their leadership, some of those people, they have gone insane.
They have lost common sense.
It's all about, actually, when I talk about femininity, it's about women's choice.
If you want to be career woman, you want to be CEO, go for it.
I support you.
We can have ambitious woman.
I'm ambitious.
But if you want to choose to be mother, to be wife, to be domestic, that's fine too.
I respect that.
We all should respect personal values and choices.
That's true freedom is about.
It's about the real choice.
But now they only want you to choose what they want you to choose.
And they tell us we are threat to democracy.
It's insane.
unidentified
Well, that's what they want to do.
Basically, the Chinese Cultural Revolution and the Cultural War here is really about challenging the very basic values, the shared values of a society.
And so, in China, we were told that there's no difference between Two genders, right?
And now there's just, you can have as many genders as you imagine.
And so everything is, why I call it a Marxist cultural revolution, because it's from the same playbook.
And then people say, okay, you call it Marxist and you call Xi Jinping's regime Marxist.
Why don't they do this?
Why don't they promote LGBTQ plus whatever?
I know why.
I know, but that's a very good question.
I'm going to tell you my answer and you tell us yours.
Okay.
So, and I said this before.
Remember control and power.
So why would Mao launch this cultural revolution and really set up all the young people to do all those things to destroy the culture?
Because they want power.
That's why he wants to destroy the culture in order to get power.
And why is Xi Jinping not doing it?
Xi Jinping has power!
He's already done it.
Yeah, done it!
And when you have power, you want stability.
You want what Xi Jinping said, harmonious society.
This time, we want harmony.
And if you challenge their policies, challenging their rule, and you release negative energy, you are harming the harmony, and you're going to be dealt with.
And why we're doing it here?
Why we're doing all this here?
Because they don't have the consolidated power.
They want power!
And I think once you understand, everything else really starts to look more clear.
They want power.
And also I want to say, just like the Red Guards, they were told they could do whatever.
They could kill without consequences.
They absolutely did that.
And then what?
And they were punished, they were gone, right?
And then we were told, we can only do this, not that.
And this is the same thing.
Now, everyone is encouraged to do, to be whatever.
Just be.
Use your imagination.
Do whatever.
You think that will be the future when they get in power?
That's why we say eye to eye, because it's, we call this right now what's going on, war cultural Marxism, because no matter what new groups they create under oppressor or under press, it's always going back the same Marxism, you know, because They're going to demoralize you.
They're going to destroy American ideals and the values and destroy nuclear families, then take over, you know, your properties, then they do whatever go on.
Well, we still have Second Amendment.
Thank goodness.
You know, that's why, you know, that's where I feel passionate.
We cannot compromise.
Otherwise, they take over institutions.
They take over our classrooms.
They take over the, you know, the court.
Judicial independence is very compromised, it's corrupt, and then once they have control over everything, they can do whatever they want.
Now they're importing all the 10 million illegals who come here.
Lots of them are economic refugees.
They're not political religious refugees, but our immigration law and asylum It's a basic abuse.
And after Biden's new executive order, right, to reverse all the Trump's border policies.
So they're getting those people come here.
Now they are the most new oppressed group because you dare to challenge that.
You are racist, bigot.
You cannot even call them illegal aliens anymore.
Censor words, redefine words.
It's all communist tactic.
It's very clear.
So what they do, they're going to promote equity, DEI, in our corporations and militaries, the government.
You guys were relating earlier today about the red and the black identities.
to take over all society.
Then they do whatever they want.
unidentified
So that's very scary. - You guys were relating earlier today about the red and the black identities.
That was the identity politics that Mao used in China.
For the viewers and listeners, in case you didn't pick up on it.
Identity politics was already used in China so that the communists could take power, right?
So all the things that you're seeing here in the US, like identity politics stuff, like that is an attempt to destabilize the United States so that way people that are looking to change the government so they can essentially become an authoritarian government, because there are groups and people that want to see the United States be like China.
The Chinese government is an attractive system to other governments because it's total control.
Governments just want control.
All of the identity politics stuff, if we lose our right to free speech and our right to property and stuff like that, all that stuff will end.
It'll end immediately.
And it will not be tolerated one bit anymore.
All the identity politics is about getting the left into power.
Once they are in positions of power, all of it stops and they will come down with the boot.
And you see it, you see a microcosm of it, people on the left, you see it happening on college campuses right now.
Because I know there's a lot of people on the left that are very pro-Palestine and very anti-Israel and you're looking at the protests and stuff like that.
Well, the people that are in positions of power at those college campuses, they're sick of your stuff and the boot comes down, man.
I will say, though, if the communists win and I end up in a camp breaking rocks, I will still enjoy the cathartic reality of all of these communist college students standing alongside me breaking rocks.
This is like, you know, reading about the Cultural Revolution, the Red Guard.
They were helping the Chinese Communist Party, they were helping Mao, and then as soon as they became a problem, like, okay, we got our power, we got what we wanted, now you guys are in the way, off to the countryside, go break rocks.
So these college kids that are putting up the People's Library are first in line to get sent to the gulags.
We make jokes that it's us, like, I hope we're in the same camp as you.
That's why I'm a very, actually, I understand young people.
I have lots of young volunteers.
When I see the college students who are like kind of red guards, I actually feel somehow sorry for them because they remind me, you know, my youth to be totally brainwashed during Mao's Cultural Revolution.
Mao has a famous saying, young people's mind is, you know, Blank sheet of paper, you can draw the most beautiful picture on it.
Lenin said the same thing, you give me a child for five years, he will be a Bolshevik forever.
So I feel, I connect with those young people.
So I've been going to college campuses and schools as a speaker for Communist Memorial Foundation for seven years.
And I saw the light bulbs come on moment, like when I heard about Declaration of Independence, my light bulb came on, never turned off.
I'm hoping that the young people heard my stories.
And most recently, one kid told me, 16 now, he said, I heard your story, speak at my school when I was 13, and I can tell you, my friends and me were never like that comedy stuff.
So planning says that's why education is so important.
That's why we've got to stop, you know, the indoctrination of the leftist Marxist ideologies and get the local control to teach students real history.
Because, you know, when they don't know the truth, when they deprive their truth of real history, Of course, you cannot just blame our kids.
We should blame our educational system.
unidentified
It's not blaming.
We lost it.
It's been taken over by the Marxists.
And I want to add to what you said.
There is no good end for any group of supporters for the CCP.
Let's start with peasants.
Peasants were up to 95% of the Chinese population when the communist revolution started, and then they promised them land, right?
They promised them free land from the rich peasants and the landlords, and then they supported the CCP and put them in power, and what they got.
They got nothing.
They got starvation.
And so what happened to those intellectuals?
There's a lot of intellectuals supporting the CCP.
Many of them were really doing well in the West.
In the United States, there were scientists, there were intellectuals.
They volunteered to go back to China to support the CCP in the early 50s.
And what's their reward.
They're considered bourgeois because they have the wrong thoughts and they need to be re-educated.
Most of them end up being labeled as a rightist and end up in gulags.
And then what happened to the Red Guards?
Same thing.
Nothing, nothing ends well for any of the CCP supporters.
Now let's go back to, how about communists?
How about those people who are communists and they succeeded get into power?
Well, no good ending for them either.
During the Cultural Revolution, the whole Cultural Revolution is about taking down the CCP bureaucrats from power, from position of power, and the number one victim of the Cultural Revolution was The president of China, Liu Shaoqi, and he did not end well.
There's just no good result for anyone who either supported Yes, that's right.
become part of the communists.
More communists were killed, guess by who? - By communists. - By communists. - Yes, yes, that's right.
And to add to that, even Xi Jinping's own father was actually persecuted during the Moscow Revolution.
That's why people thought Xi Jinping would be more wise leader for China.
No.
No, he's not.
He's taking China backwards.
Another thing to add is that today's China, even though they do focus on international expansion, but when you see what they're doing now inside China, They are promoting some grassroots level, kind of like a government supply station again, and some food rationing even.
So that's how bad the people's life is after, you know, the pandemic.
And because of national security law, they push on Hong Kong and they push on Chinese.
So even you are a foreign company now, when you go to China, if you don't comply to the CCP regulations and laws, you can be arrested and you can be shutting down.
You need only look at when they were, there's the videos where they have the giant steel beams and they're putting it in front of the doors against the wall so that people in their apartments can't get out during COVID to see that nothing's changed.
There is evil and totalitarian.
They were welding people's doors shut.
There's the video where a man pushes his refrigerator onto the balcony and opens it to show that it's empty.
Was there ever a period where people had weapons like this?
unidentified
Well, yes.
And I did not know.
And because I was taught the fake history.
In my area, in our province, in Sichuan, that was the last so-called liberated area.
And because it was the place that always traditionally produced the most food.
So they were taxed to the point, those people were already accepted communism, you know, they welcomed the liberation army, but they were taxed to the point that they either die or either fight or starve.
So they fought.
And I was taught, you probably saw too, that was the bandits' rebellion.
So some peasants at beginning, right, and the communist party want them to come out actively, you know, against their landlord, against their employers.
They say, well, my employer actually, my landlord is actually kind of nice to me.
I cannot do this.
Then they want them to Think about it.
Any moment, anything they say, dig, dig, dig, dig what he said, what they did to you.
And so they want you to feel hateful.
They want you to feel jealous.
They are so rich.
They have so much.
You don't have anything.
Sounds familiar.
You have and have not.
And they install the hatred, the envy into your head.
and give them agitated and come out publicly.
You have to publicly against your landlord to do the land reform that time.
And so now when I look at that here, it's like people constantly demonize free market capitalism.
Our young people don't understand profit They demonize profit.
Everything blame on corporations and blame on job creators.
And they're the evils.
They're the enemy of state.
And I chose this group called the Young Communist Revolutionaries on X. They're talking about 2024 is the best year to bring down evil capitalism.
So it's still traditional Marxism based on class struggles, but they use social issues now, like the illegal migration and the trans LGBTQ community, our kids, and you cannot ask.
So they use those issues now.
When you talk about equity, it is a communist tactic, concept, you know, ideology.
What's fascinating is, you know, everybody's been paying attention to news over the past few years knows that the woke left projects.
What they do they accuse you of doing.
It's actually one of Alinsky's rules for radicals.
I saw this thread where they were talking about socialism and communism.
And someone asked what it was, and they said communism is when your labor is controlled by you instead of your boss, and capitalism is when the ultra-wealthy control you.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
Capitalism is when your labor is controlled by you.
You can quit at any moment.
You can go walk into the woods for all anyone cares.
If it's someone's woods, they might get mad that you're there.
But in capitalism, you have the right to trade your labor for what its market value is.
In communism, the state tells you what your labor is for.
That's it.
And it's literally from each according to their capabilities to each according to their need.
They're telling you outright, you will not control your labor.
They never blame the government who created problems, who created identity politics, then offer government big solutions to solve your problem.
They don't understand government law is a force.
And in capitalism, equal protection under the law That's one part of capitalism.
If you don't like Apple, don't buy the iPhone, and you don't want this job, go get another job.
You have individual control and choice.
But once you rely on government, which is statism, the biggest religion in the whole world, you know, 100 million people died under communism, it's because you put your faith in government, centralized government.
I do think one quick way to disabuse young people of this communist ideology is to subject them to a small form of it.
I'm pretty sure that Occupy Wall Street de-radicalized a lot of people.
And I do mean this.
I knew one guy who left crying.
A guy!
When he realized, like, I feel like he probably realized everything he had dedicated his life to up to this point was a lie, when he saw how just none of it worked.
It just fell apart, and he was like, I don't understand why this isn't working, and then he gets upset.
But the story that I famously bring up is how they tried to, the way they would try and do things is that everybody would get together in an assembly and then vote on how to do things.
And this was actually hilarious.
I mean, voting, at least you get to vote, right?
But they wanted to get bins to protect the clothes and the materials from the rain while we're all living in this park.
And so someone says, I propose we buy plastic bins to put everything in.
That'll stop the mold and the filth.
And then they say, OK, we vote on it.
And then someone blocked it.
They put up their hands.
They call it a block.
If someone blocks, you can't.
Nope.
It has to be unanimous.
And they said, what's your problem?
What is your issue?
And they say, plastic is bad for the environment.
So, we can't buy it.
And they said, okay, what if we get recycled bins?
Like, okay.
Okay, recycled is fine.
Because it's already there.
Then someone blocks again.
And they say, well, what's your objection?
It's like, these were produced through slave labor.
It's got to be fair trade.
And they said, okay.
We'll buy fair trade, recycled plastic bins.
Okay, done.
Couldn't find them, went to Walmart, they bought the bins.
So then, the people, nobody knew they actually just did that.
When it came down to, here's what the people have decided, the people who actually controlled the money just said, ignore whatever they say, go to Walmart and buy the bins, or wherever they went, they went and bought, store-bought bins, and then lied to everybody.
And then once they got tired of this system, this is the funniest thing ever.
They were like, this General Assembly system isn't working.
We need to create something called the Spokes Council, where each working group, so based on the work you do, will get a representative to vote to the larger assembly.
Everyone else will wait, and this will streamline the process.
And so they said, in order to enact this, we all have to agree.
Those are the rules.
So they hold a general assembly.
They say, all in favor of enacting a spokes council form of governance for the protest, and block, block, block.
Okay, that's three, you can't do it.
And so then they said, okay, all in favor of overriding the blocks, which you're not allowed to do, and then a bunch of people raise their hands, a bunch of people block, and then this is the best part.
This is where the guy started crying.
One of the guys, the facilitators, goes, uh, one, two, three, four, uh, yeah, yeah, we won.
And then he's like, what do you mean?
Anyone can plainly see that you did not win.
He goes, we did it.
From now on, we will only have spokescouncil meetings.
And that was it, the end of it.
And then he started crying, like, everything I believed in is a lie.
These people will just do whatever they want.
It's an illusion of democracy and choice.
And then he left.
I never saw him again.
unidentified
Well, yeah, that is a great demonstration, but if they want communism, and then I have to say, it is simple for communism.
You will go starving if you don't obey.
Capitalism, you'll go hungry if you don't work.
And so that is what communism or that of course that extreme democracy won't work either.
So I guess young people... Well, the issue with this was that it was never really democracy in the first place.
The people who are in charge were telling the people that don't worry, we're all working together.
You can vote, but then behind the scenes would do anything they want.
There was one instance where a computer was donated.
Someone brought a MacBook and said, I hope this helps you guys.
And I said, Wonderful, because I was talking to the organizers like, this is great, what we should do is put the computer on a table, everyone can sign up for a time, and then they can use that computer to go on the internet, send emails, contact loved ones, whatever.
And then one of the facilitators went, You know, I really need a new computer, so.
And then they start to also, once they informed their own little separate country and said, did they lock up?
Did they actually have a fence?
You cannot even go in.
unidentified
They killed people!
Yeah, they were wearing guns!
No, they literally shot and killed several people!
That's a great example of...
of a crisis of competence that you hear people talking about.
The reason it looks like a joke is because they don't have any idea how to actually plant plants and grow anything.
And with the DEI stuff that you hear people talking about, the fear is that there's going to be focusing on identity and you're going to end up taking people that aren't going to be qualified And then you're going to have ramifications throughout the society.
And there are people that are going to argue, oh, no, that'll never happen.
That won't happen at all.
But we have actual examples from history, which you had mentioned earlier, talking about the way that they were planting the plants in China.
And it caused a famine because the way they were planting the plants was counter to what plants need, right?
Because they didn't know how to plant plants properly.
The same thing happened in the Soviet Union.
It was called Lysenkoism because Tofen Lysenko was the guy that said, look, our plants are communist plants.
Plant them close together and they can share resources.
That's what happened, man.
They said, look, they're communist plants.
If you plant them close together, they will share resources, which of course we're, today we laugh about and think it's ridiculous, but that's what happened.
They believed it and it caused millions of deaths.
So the idea that a crisis of competence, as much as that's a small thing and we laugh about it because it has no consequences, you know, it doesn't have the kind of consequences that, that, that like Toph and like Singham did, but like that stuff does happen.
At scale, when it comes to two top-down, centralized governments.
Because governments can't predict what's gonna happen, they can't predict all of it.
I do just want to point out that there is a sort of dark humor in, from 1934 to 1940 under Lysenko's admonitions with Stalin's approval, many geneticists were executed.
You're totally, it's crazy because this is exactly what we were, this was demonstrated also in the bit that you showed earlier from, what was the movie?
The woman was saying things that were true, scientifically sound, but because they were in conflict with what the party wanted, she had to be punished, or they had to be punished.
I'm not sure if it was her, there was another scientist or whatever.
But that kind of stuff happens in totalitarian governments, because when reality conflicts with what the narrative is, they go with the narrative, which we're seeing again Yeah.
Again, with the whole trans stuff.
Reality does not support the concept that a man can become a woman or a woman can become a man, but you are forced to say that it is that way because the ideology makes that demand, not because there is any evidence in reality. - Yeah, in China during the Cultural Revolution, not because there is any evidence in reality. - Yeah, in China during the
And it's called, "We'd rather have the communist weeds than bourgeois crops." That's insane!
It's exactly what we, yeah.
It's IDlock, yes.
I'd rather have communist weeds than bourgeois crops.
The weeds aren't going to save your people, dude!
That's why people die!
Can I go back to a little bit about the DEI?
A lot of people think DEI is something new, right?
A new invention, and it's a good idea.
And that also has been tried and failed in China with a different name.
And that basically is your qualification for like a college admission, for promotion, and it has nothing to do with your academic ability.
And it has everything to do with your political So it's not race-based, because 95% of the Chinese are all the same.
But it's based on your class, and based on your family, and your political standing.
So that is, during the Cultural Revolution, that's called the worker-peasant-soldier college.
Students, what it does mean that means your qualification for college is based on your political performance and recommendation by the leaders by the party boss.
And so, College was shut down for a few years.
When it reopened, that's what the new implementation is, the qualification based on politics.
So the people that were admitted to the best university in China, Beijing and Tsinghua, when it reopened, More than half of them only had elementary school education.
But it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter because it's all about DEI.
And so a lot of those people there, they can't do it.
They can't do it.
So the professors have to work so hard to basically bring them up to the secondary education in order to do anything.
And so those become the synonym for disqualification.
And Xi Jinping, is one of those worker, peasant, soldier, college graduate.
And so, you know, that tells you who is leading China today.
He is one of those.
Because by then, his father was already got back in office, and then he become red.
He was black.
And then it's all about your family.
So Xi Jinping's family was black?
Yeah, because his father was purged.
That is the story.
The black and red, it's fluid.
It's fluid.
Like gender.
Like gender, you're right.
Yeah, so at first that was determined by your class.
Whether you have property, you have land.
But eventually, if you step out of the line, if you prove that you have the wrong thoughts, you become a black class.
Once that happened, it affects all your children.
And so Xi Jinping was persecuted, actually, by the Red Guards.
He was beaten, and he has to put on the stage with undoubtedly, during the Cultural Revolution, to endure Because it's his turn.
And the question is, why would he do the same thing that Mao did?
And why would he bring back the Cultural Revolution 2.9?
So I want to add that my own father was illiterate because he was a red child and he was promoted to go to workers' college.
He could not do homework.
I was in elementary school.
He brought all the homework.
I cannot do this.
I cannot read.
I said, Dad, do you really want to do this?
There are other people more qualified to go to workers' college, but you are adding burden to my own, you know, like extra workload.
He said, I quit.
I don't want to go to workers' college anymore.
So he went back to the factory to be his supervisor.
DEI is very dangerous now in our country today because UCLA Medical School is lowering standards now.
unidentified
For students to become doctors, it's gonna cost lives, and how about in the military? - How about the airplanes? - It's really important that you point out the doctor stuff.
Not that, I don't wanna throw the whole medical field under the bus or anything, but already the third highest cause of death in the United States is medical malpractice.
Something like that.
I think if it's not, if it's not third, it's in the top five.
It's really high because doctors are humans and they're fallible.
And like, that's with like what ostensibly is fully always qualified doctors that are educated up to standard.
In courtroom, imagine our judges, Biden and Obama, already tweeted, oh, 200 judges, you know, now it's like, you know, more than half of them are minorities, women, that's all identity politics, political driving.
We want judicial activists in our courts.
Are we going to follow the rule of law?
This is very dangerous in our country.
unidentified
I can tell you a story of the DEI doctor that I experienced when I was little.
I had a bike accident and ended up in the hospital.
And it's minor, so who operated on me was Worker, peasant, soldier, student, graduate.
Yeah, so, and then that was no big deal because my operation was minor.
And then I had a maid come to the ward every day, and she's an older woman, and very nice, and just clean up, you know, everything.
And I learned she was the real doctor.
And she was the main doctor in that department for women.
So she was ousted because she belonged to the category of reactionary, bourgeois, Intellectuals.
So the student that had, and the one that had less qualification is running the business.
I did not suffer, but I'm sure people suffered by her lack of skill.
But what I can tell you is that the CCP, the CCP leaders, if they want operation, they would call that old woman back.
We're going to start to wind things down as we get close to wrapping up, but, uh, Shi, do you want to mention anything?
Any final thoughts or anything to shout out?
You have a book, perhaps?
unidentified
Oh, yes, yes.
You want to show the book?
Yes.
And so I'm so glad to be invited to this cultural war show.
This is all about culture.
And I explain why this is a cultural revolution, because it has been proving that America can never be taken down by violence, by insurrection, by a foreign army.
But America can be taken down by cultural Marxism because they are aiming at destroying our very foundation, the shared value, and the American founding.
And they have been doing it for over 100 years.
And so this is what I want to do to wake people up.
have paid no, just asleep.
And so this is what I want to do to wake people up.
I try to, in this book, tell people the two cultural revolutions.
And I live through one, and I'm living through one with millions, hundreds of millions of Americans right now.
I'm telling you, they are the same.
They are both cultural revolutions, Marxist cultural revolutions.
The goal is very simple.
to take down the country so that some people can have absolute power.
Well, I have been a Liberty activist at the grassroots level for 11 years, because I woke up in this country 20 years later after I came here to learn the truth and get rid of my indoctrination.
But the country is getting worse, so I feel really it's my duty, it's my mission to do what she wrote a book, and I'm being just a speaker and educator and also activist, now running for U.S.
House, because I feel like it's my calling to do this.
I did a video recently called My Two Cultural Revolutions, and I listed all the similarities, and I don't want to lose this country.
This is the greatest country on earth, and we have founding fathers' documents brought me to this country.
And I want to come here, live under freedom, and I embrace fully American ideals, which is liberty and individual rights, meritocracy and rule of law.
But we are slipping away from those traditional values, ideals.
That's why I'm running.
I'm from Warner right now in New Hampshire's 2nd congressional district, and we have a very good grassroots campaign.
And with your support, please go to my website, lillytongwilliams.com to donate.
I need Lilly's Army of Freedom to get me to finish line and win the primary on September 10th and win the general election on November 5th.
So please follow me on X. Every day I'm active there, except the past few days I'm busy here.
And it's Lily for Liberty, and that was my brand I established over 10 years ago.
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So follow me there and share our stories, our messages.
I urge all the, you know, immigrants who come here for freedom, join us.
Join me and Xi.
Have the courage to stand up, speak up now.
If we don't save America, the world will be a very dark place.
Thank you.
Thank you for having me.
unidentified
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