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Dec. 8, 2023 - The Culture War - Tim Pool

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The Culture War #41 - Donald Trump May Be The ANTI CHRIST, Or Is It Elon Musk? w/Donnie Darkened

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tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Good morning, everybody!
		Welcome to the Culture War podcast.
		I am Tim Poole.
		We got a really fun subject for you today, and the question is, is Donald Trump the Antichrist?
		Or, I don't know, some kind of demonic figure?
		Recently, Alex Jones was speculating, and he had a really funny statement where he was like, If it turns out it's true, I was tricked into it, or something like that.
		But there's also questions Alex brings up.
		Is Elon Musk the Antichrist?
		I'm not so convinced that either of them are, or there even will be one, but a lot of people think there may be.
		And so, considering the speculation, we've brought in several individuals who have speculated greatly, and even tracked greatly, signs, symbols, and scripture which suggest, yes, Donald Trump may be the Antichrist.
		Let's start with you over here, Sovereign Brah.
		Do you want to introduce yourself and we'll just go around the room?
unidentified		Yeah, what's up?
		Where should I look?
		Should I look into anything?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can look whatever you want.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can look at the ceiling if you want.
unidentified		Yeah, what's up?
		My name is Chase.
		You guys might know me from the Whatever podcast.
		I connected with Donnie Darkened and Drew Tang over Twitter last year.
		Some of my boys sent me some of Donnie's stuff and they were like, dude, this guy's posting some really interesting stuff about Trump.
		I saw his thesis that Trump was the Antichrist and initially I was like, All right, dude, like this is ridiculous.
		And then my friends kept sending me more stuff and I was like, this could be worth looking into.
		So I started hosting some spaces with him and heard out his theory.
		Then we looped in Drew Tang.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We had you on, that was a while ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It was like earlier in the year.
unidentified		Yeah, March.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you mentioned this and told me to look up this account.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And we talked about it a little bit.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So here we are.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		For everybody who is watching, we are going to conceal the identity of Donnie Darkened.
		So you will not be able to see his face, but we will use an animated avatar that is from the X account.
		So that's what will represent the individual, but why don't we keep going?
unidentified		Hey guys, I'm Drew on Twitter at DrewTangReborn.
		And yeah, Chase had hit us up back in the day, me and Donnie, to do a space regarding Trump and Elon and, you know, the idea of them being associated with the end times.
		And at the time, Chase only had like 2,000 followers, so I thought he was just a clout chaser trying to
		Trying to hit me up for some followers but no it was amazing space and it's crazy that it's manifested into this and yeah no we got a we got a lot of great information for you I think it's I think it's very original and stuff that hasn't really been covered in you know the independent media sphere very much at all so and these two figures Trump and Musk obviously seem to be you know the best figures as far as far as being opposed to the establishment so
		We're just going to give some cautionary advice and yeah, it's going to be fun.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right on, and of course...
unidentified		Hi, I'm Donnie Darkened.
unidentified		I'm appearing as an avatar right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Of an evil Donald Trump with glowing red eyes.
unidentified		So it's a little creepy, but, you know, I just want to say thank you for having me on.
		I'm very grateful to be on this platform, able to spread this message.
		I don't think that the things that we're going to get into have ever been discussed on such a large platform like this.
		So I'm just, again, very grateful to be on here.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I wonder how many Democrats are gonna start sharing it like crazy, like, this is it!
unidentified		This is everybody!
		We got him!
		Believe it or not, Democrats hate me.
		Like, liberals, like, they comment on my stuff, they think I'm nuts.
		It's really the horseshoe theory come to fruition.
		The, uh, you go far enough, uh, right into conspiracies and, oh yeah, Trump is the Antichrist.
		What?
		We agree?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, so we've got a lot of questions to go through, but first let me play this clip that Chase, you posted of Alex Jones.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's pull this one up.
unidentified		Also, credit to Adam Green for sharing this on Twitter at nomorenews.com.
		He covers a lot of this stuff.
		I want to give him credit.
		He was looking for a little bit of that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's the video of Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But now he's transcended just being about positivity into Something messianic, which, I mean, if you get a snapshot of Trump, he's a dark person, but also, I mean, look.
		Look, if anybody can be the Antichrist, and I don't think he's the Antichrist, but he's the type of person, also Elon Musk.
		I mean, there's some definite dark energy around Trump.
		And I know if I was ever controlled opposition, it was unwittingly being sucked into it.
		And I think the jury's out on Trump, but they are definitely scared of him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It kind of sounds like Alex Jones in this clip, I know it's only 39 seconds, it sounds like he really does think there's a possibility Trump is the Antichrist, but particularly when he says, if I ever was controlled opposition it was unwittingly, as if to suggest there is a possibility at some point Donald Trump is revealed to be the Antichrist and Alex Jones regrets having supported him.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Yeah, 100%.
		Yeah, I think there was a time right after Jan 6 where he was expressing that.
		I think there was an interview where he's like, oh, supporting or pushing Trump and getting him elected because it was having Trump on InfoWars was a big Credibility push for Trump in the alternative anti-establishment sphere But he's one thing I was mentioning earlier is at Jan 6 Alex Jones was as soon as he saw the Capitol breach He was on his speakerphone telling people don't go in.
		He basically called it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He knew it was a honeypot right away So I think there's some credibility to that Trump probably could have been more direct and screaming get out, but Trump did say stop Effectively telling people not to do it He posted it to his Twitter account, and then they shut down his Twitter account shortly after.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, so they're, you know, he said, don't be violent, be peaceful, we respect law enforcement.
unidentified		So from Alex's point of view, which is interesting, which again doesn't get talked about too much, is Alex did have a hand in organizing the event, and what he said is Trump's people came to him and said, Trump's going to give a speech at the Capitol after the main In the Ellipse, the main presentation in the Ellipse, which Trump was, by the way, Trump was two hours late from when he was supposed to go on stage and it was freezing cold.
		Yeah.
		So people were exhausted.
		And like when they opened up the doors and I was I was actually out in the lawn and there were people, there's guys in suits that came out and were saying they've opened the doors, come on in.
		And we're like way back, hundreds and hundreds of feet away from the main event.
		I was just watching the like Were they feds that were telling you guys to go in?
		I don't know.
		I, they could be well-meaning people that just, you know, we're, we're bringing people in or they, you know, what, I guess the, the main thing, yeah, they were, they looked professional, but, um, you know, what I'm saying here is that people, um, you know, we're, we're being told to come in, even people standing all the way far back, but, but yeah, I think Alex really did the, the, the most possible to, to stop people from going in.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, we gotta go way back.
		We gotta start here.
		First, I guess, what is the Antichrist?
unidentified		Okay, so a lot of people have very, very strong misconceptions about the Antichrist.
		And when I first heard about this theory, I completely brushed it off.
		I was actually a very big supporter of Donald Trump.
		I voted for him in 2016.
		I voted for him in 2020.
		And I like Trump.
		I agree with Trump's politics.
		I think he's funny.
		I think he's an entertaining guy.
		And I have nothing personally against Trump.
		So it's not that I'm anti-Trump.
		It's more so that I'm seeing connections that are not being talked about.
		And one of the things is, like you said, what is the Antichrist?
		And a lot of people have this conception.
		When they think of the Antichrist, they think of someone who's like, you know, a George Soros or a Klaus Schwab.
		Someone who is just obviously and blatantly evil and tyrannical.
		And, you know, when I read scripture, you know, it says that Satan masquerades as an angel of light.
		And right now we are being presented with a suspiciously transparent darkness that is obviously evil and godless that wants nothing but control and tyranny upon humanity.
		And what I'm suggesting is that what's happening right now is people are being fed this darkness in our faces and it's only being done to lead us into the false light.
		Which would be the light of Lucifer, as it's called.
		Lucifer actually, in the occult, is the light bearer.
		And it all stems from the inversion of the Garden of Eden story.
		And the occult sees Lucifer as the bringer of intellect and wisdom to mankind, where they see God as a tyrant who were holding Adam and Eve prisoner in the garden.
		They see the serpent as the liberator of mankind.
		And I think that the first lie will also be the last lie, and it will be a play on this false light deception.
		And right now, it's very interesting seeing everything happening.
		We see right now so many different crises unfolding upon not only America, but the world.
		And it almost seems like when Trump left office, everything went extremely downhill with the coming of the Biden administration and just the complete blatant corruption and incompetence of his administration and the current system, which has led to so many crises.
		And we have to remember that the Antichrist rises as an advocate for humanity.
		Much like the serpent in the occult is seen as an advocate for humanity.
		And we have to remember that Satan operates not on outright opposition and adversity, but rather by imitation and infiltration.
		And this has always been how it is.
		He comes as a wolf in sheep's clothing.
		He has horns.
		He speaks like a lamb, but has horns like a goat.
		I want to directly address your question.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is the Antichrist Satan?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What is he?
unidentified		What does he do?
		Okay, so it's important to properly frame this conversation because within Christianity there's different interpretations of the Antichrist.
		And in this discussion... So are you familiar with the concept of eschatology, like the study of the end times?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, I've seen websites, but I don't really know anything about it.
unidentified		So, eschatology within Christianity, this is the study of the things of the end.
		So like, the final days, the resurrection, so on and so forth.
		And there's different schools of thought within Christian eschatology.
		We're approaching it from one school called historical premillennialism.
		Historical premillennialism, this is the earliest position of the church.
		Then there's premillennial dispensationalism, which is the newest eschatology, which was actually funded by Zionists and causes people to support everything that Israel does, no matter how heinous or evil it is.
		Then there's post-millennialism, and I'm sure a lot of post-millennialists will get pissed at how we handle this conversation today.
		How many are there?
		There's a large contingent in America.
		Wow.
		And then there's amillennialism, which is another school.
		Within those different schools, so we're operating from historical premillennialism, the Antichrist is a figure prophesied in the Old Testament and the New Testament.
		In the Old Testament, he's called the false shepherd in the book of Zechariah, who gets wounded in his eye and in his arm.
		He's also referenced in the book of Daniel, yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		If someone makes a move on Trump's life.
unidentified		Exactly, exactly.
		You know what's really interesting about this?
		In Islam, they have very similar prophecies of the Antichrist.
		They call him the Dajjal.
		And in Islam, in their Hadith, they prophesy that he will have one eye.
		So he will have like a wounded eye.
		So there's the same parallel in both the Old Testament and in Islam.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump's got two eyes for now.
unidentified		For now.
		For right now.
		There is a lot of almost seeming foreshadowing that there's going to be an attempt on Trump's life at some point.
		Yeah, we should get into that.
		I want to finish this though because this is important.
		And then Trump's going to be like, the attack on my life has left me scarred and disfigured.
		So you've got that in the Old Testament, then you've got in the book of Daniel, he's called the little horn, speaks great blasphemies against God, wages war on God's people.
		Then in the New Testament, he's referenced in Thessalonians, he's referenced in Revelation, other places too.
		And in Revelation 13, he's referenced as the beast, right?
		So it's basically this figure where the world is going to be in turmoil and chaos.
		A figure is going to rise, he's going to bring peace and order out of the chaos, he's going to place what's called the abomination of desolation inside of the third temple of Jerusalem, and the whole world is going to worship him.
		It says in Revelation 13 he's going to suffer a seemingly fatal wound.
		Yeah, I can't see Trump blaspheming.
		to resurrect from it, like Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead.
		He's going to utter great blasphemies against God.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's going to elevate himself above God. - Yeah, I can't see Trump blaspheming.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Elevation in terms of like boasting about how great he is, yes, but blaspheming against God? - I'm in the same position.
unidentified		He's actually said very pro-Jesus Christ things, and, you know, we can get into that, but blaspheming against God, basically exalting himself above God, places the abomination of desolation inside of the third temple, and the third temple is crucial in all of this, and then Uh, he's connected to what's called the second beast or the false prophet, basically causes the entire world to worship what's called the image of the beast, and then the mark of the beast gets pushed on the world.
unidentified		So the Antichrist rises, places the abomination of desolation inside the third temple, creates a one-world government, creates a one-world religion, gets worshipped as God, and leads a ton of people to hell.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So of course, uh, the vehicle the president rides around in is called the beast.
unidentified		Is it really?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's called the Beast.
		So you could make an argument, but I always think a lot of these arguments are stretches to try and make things fit.
		That they weren't saying the Antichrist himself is called the Beast, but what he rides upon, the visage of his vehicle coming in with everyone around him, it's the Beast.
		It's the armored limo, right?
		They call it the Beast or whatever.
		Yeah.
		I want to add real quick, this was pointed out to us on TimCast IRL a few months ago, the Red Heifer was born, they claim, and I didn't know anything about this, so people were chatting being like, hey, look up the Red Heifer, and the simple version is, there has to be a pure-born Red Heifer with no blemishes, so that it could be sacrificed signaling the Third Temple, which is, what is that, the Messianic era for the Jewish religion?
unidentified		Yeah, so Jews...
		This is what's so interesting about this from my perspective.
		Religious Jews are waiting for their Messiah.
		So they've rejected Jesus Christ as their Messiah.
		They're waiting for the arrival of their Messiah.
		And they're basically, when you look at the prophecies of the Jewish Messiah, it says that he will rise, he will place the nations as his footstool, like he will basically crush his enemies, and there will be a one world government from Jerusalem, right?
		So Jews are still waiting for their Messiah, okay?
		They rejected Jesus and If Trump or whoever rises and creates a one world government from Jerusalem, Jews will worship him as their Messiah.
		They need their third temple in order for this to happen.
		That's why the red heifer and the third temple is so important.
		They can't have their Jewish Messiah without the third temple.
		Okay, so that's why I'm like, I'm watching Temple Mount like a frickin' hawk right now, dude, because if Israel makes a move to reclaim that and to build their third temple, it would instantly trigger World War III, but also if they build the third temple, like, we're seconds away from the Antichrist rising potentially.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or perhaps World War III triggers an attempt on the Holy Land.
unidentified		That's another possibility.
		Yeah, the Third Temple is critical in all of this.
		The Jews right now are waiting for their Messiah, like Chase said.
		They rejected Jesus, the true Messiah, because they're not looking for the Messiah in the way that we Christians see it.
		They're looking for a king.
		They're looking for a political leader.
		Someone who's going to Elevate Israel and make Israel great.
		Which, funnily enough, I have with me this temple coin.
		I'll give this to Tim so he can show.
		This coin right here is a coin minted in Jerusalem and it's backed by the Sanhedrin and the Temple Institute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The temple coin.
unidentified		Yep.
		And it's worth a half shekel.
		And this will grant you entry.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Switch to this camera.
unidentified		Yes, this coin will grant you entry Let's see if we can get a focus.
		Probably back it up a little bit.
		You guys could probably pull up, if you look up Trump Temple Coin online, you guys could probably show what it looks like.
		I'll just do that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that one's not working.
unidentified		This is crazy.
		This coin will actually grant you access to the temple once it's built.
		And on the coin, we have Donald Trump King Cyrus, and King Cyrus was the ancient Persian king who defeated Babylon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		- Real quick, yeah, this is the cure.
unidentified		- Yep.
unidentified		- Can you make that full screen?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		- This is the coin.
		In my hand right now, it's a little picture of Trump on it.
		And then here is the actual image.
unidentified		Yeah, so I want to talk about this.
		It's actually very crucial to all this.
		So, you know, this is, like I said, backed by the Sanhedrin and the Temple Institute.
		So we have Trump, King Cyrus, who defeated the Babylonian Empire, allowing the Jews to return home to build their temple.
		In Isaiah 45, he's called the Messiah to the Jews.
		On the bottom, if you read it, it says, And he charged me to build him a house in Jerusalem.
		And on the back, we have the third temple of King Solomon.
		So for those who aren't familiar with the temple of King Solomon, the first one was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar.
		The second one was destroyed in 70 AD.
		And since then, it's been almost 2,000 years, the Jews have not had a way So, this is a very serious matter for the Jewish people in Israel.
		They want nothing more than to bring about the Temple so that they can continue their sacrifices and usher in the Messiah.
		There are two views that are prominent.
		There's the view that the Messiah will build the Temple, and then there's the view that the Temple will be built and the Messiah will come.
		It's very interesting because many rabbis in Jerusalem are saying that Trump is actually the key who will herald the coming messianic age.
		And it's really funny because Rabbi Yosef Berger, who was the overseer of the tomb of King David, one of Jerusalem's most holiest sites,
		Uh actually said that trump is going to be the one to build the temple and he right now is actually working on a genealogical link between king david and donald trump going through his ancestry And this is very important because like jesus is the son of david So too the antichrist will also be seen as the son of david.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Do you guys know what donald trump means?
unidentified		Oh yeah, that's a big one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump means herald of the world ruler.
		So Donald is, I believe it's Scottish Gaelic for rule of the world.
		And Trump means the trumpet sound.
		So it is the fanfare of the world ruler.
		So I'm being a little colorful when I say herald of the world ruler, but you could literally translate it to the announcement of the world ruler, the trumpet sound of the world ruler.
unidentified		That's in Revelation, right guys?
unidentified		But hold on.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So the theory then is it's not Donald himself, for he only heralds, he only announces the true ruler, Barron Trump.
unidentified		Yeah, I actually want to get into that a little bit.
		Whose name is Barron?
		I actually do want to get into that a little bit because there are many Jews right now who believe that it's not Trump but he will herald the coming Messiah.
		One thing I will say about the Antichrist is I don't want to give the impression that the Antichrist Uh, knows his, his role right now.
		I would say if Trump is the Antichrist, he's not the Antichrist yet.
		He is merely a vessel in the same way that Judas, uh, you know, he was, he eventually became possessed by Satan.
		And in the Bible, he is called the first Antichrist.
		I believe in the same way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sorry, real quick.
		I'm not kidding.
		Babycenter.co.uk.
		Donald, what does it mean?
		It means ruler of the world.
		Wow.
unidentified		Oh yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The ruler of the world.
unidentified		I want to zoom out for a second.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people named Donald though.
unidentified		I want to zoom out for a second.
		The first time I was here, when we were talking about all the end time stuff, and you asked me, you were like, do you think the Antichrist is going to rise?
		And I was like, I think it's a possibility.
		You were like, who do you think it is?
		I was like, I've got some ideas.
		Immediately you were like, do you think it's Trump?
		What, why do you think it might be him?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Aside from this?
unidentified		Me?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know that I think it might be him, but I mean.
unidentified		Why was he the first name that came to mind for you?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Because he's the main character.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, come on, like the world revolves around Donald Trump.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right now, at least.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean that somewhat half-jokingly, but he's the most famous person in the world.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No question.
unidentified		Mm-hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You could probably go to North Sentinel Island, and they'd be throwing spears and arrows at your helicopter, and then you go, Donald Trump!
		And they go, Donald Trump.
		But you go anywhere, they know his name.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They know what he looks like.
		He's got a distinct image.
		That hair, they know who he is.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And it's interesting in Daniel.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's president.
		And he's like, it's just, it's crazy.
		The narrative around him is atypical.
		It is something I've never seen in my life.
		I think no one has ever seen.
unidentified		Yeah.
		And in Daniel, it says that he will have a unique physical appearance.
		He will be more stout looking than his fellows.
		And it's funny because in Daniel, he's described as the little horn.
		Well, a trump or a trumpet is literally a little horn.
		And the verses describing, yeah, and the verses describing the little horn is Daniel chapter 7, verses 21 through 25.
		Trump Tower actually has multiple addresses.
		It's located on North 5th Ave, 721 to 725.
		Perfectly mirroring the passages talking about the Little Horn.
		And there's a lot, there's a huge rabbit hole on Trump Tower and its connections.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So basically we live in a simulation.
		And Donald Trump is the main character.
		No, I say he's the main character because everything as of right now is revolving around him.
		I mean, all news media, all politics, worldly affairs, nobody will shut up about the guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
		So check this out.
		I just DM'd this to you on Twitter, Tim.
		These are the traits of the Antichrist described in the Bible.
		So I'm just, I'm going to read them off.
		Revelation chapter 13, verse 18 in Daniel 7, 8 says, he will be intelligent.
		It says he'll be a charismatic speaker in Daniel and Revelation.
		It says he'll be a crafty politician.
		It says he'll have a distinct physical appearance.
		He'll be a military genius, an economic genius.
		It says he'll be a blasphemer, utterly lawless.
		It says he'll be a selfish and ambitious egomaniac.
		It says he'll be a greedy materialist, controlling, proud and self-exalting above God and everything.
		So, I mean, there are a lot of traits fulfilled there.
		I don't think all of the traits are fulfilled.
		I'm personally in the same camp.
		I'm not totally convinced that Trump is the Antichrist.
		I see the possibility.
		I can see how it would play out.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, I guess we'll slow down, we'll jump back.
		Is it the end of times?
		Are we even in the correct period for which the Antichrist would emerge?
unidentified		Well, so Donnie and I were talking about this a few weeks ago.
		There's different perspectives on this.
		So the post-millennialists, they believe that the end of times happened around 70 AD.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Is that what the post-millennial means?
unidentified		Yes, they believe we're after the millennial.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The postmillennial.com?
unidentified		They just post like post-war news.
		I don't think so.
		But yeah, they believe that the final days were before, as far as I understand, and we're essentially living after it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The thing about- Oh, so it's like it already happened.
unidentified		That's what they believe.
		I don't believe that, and the majority of the early church fathers, they believed that the final days would be about 6,000 years after the earth was created, which is the time that we're living in right now, okay?
		And the interesting thing about biblical prophecy is, the Bible This is one of God's distinct personality traits as described in the Bible.
		He makes known what's going to happen from the beginning to the end.
		So there were prophecies that prophesied Christ's coming.
		He fulfilled a ton of them.
		And then there are prophecies for what would happen in the final days, right?
		And we can go through the list, but the creation of the third temple of Jerusalem, that's the biggest one that I'm looking at.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So we have this story, I briefly mentioned the red heifer, and so there have been claims made that a red heifer had been born before, but typically what happens is, and it's important to know there are people who are intentionally, genetically engineering red heifers.
		But then once they get old enough, they're like, nope.
		There's like a white hair.
		There's a blemish.
		It is not a pure red heifer.
		It is not the right moment.
		So there are groups that are trying to import and they're trying to breed perfect red heifers.
		And it's been announced several times.
		They're like, we think we have one.
		It's a baby, but it's red.
		And then after a few years, it gets older and they go, nope, not right.
		Now they're claiming, I think it was in September, that they believe they'd have a true pure red heifer.
		But again, we'll have to wait until it's old enough.
		The interesting thing about all of this is, you're mentioning Judaism and their temple, but there are Christians, so you have Judaism waiting for its messiah, and Christianity believing this could be the second coming.
		This could be the return of the Christ.
		So this is why you have a lot of Christian evangelical groups that are very, very pro-Israel.
		and why you have this alignment between, and these are relatively small groups, I think, in terms of the grand scale of things.
		I've asked people, politicians, people who've served in the military who've come on Timcast IRL, do you think that religion is playing a large role in what's going on in Israel?
		And they always say, no, not really.
		But there are a lot of people in the United States who will always vote for and support politicians who defend, arm, or are fighting for the expansion and protection of Israel because they want the prophecy to happen.
		They want the return of Christ, et cetera.
unidentified		There's a large contingent of Christians in America that support that.
		A huge portion of evangelical Christians in America actually believe that by supporting Israel in everything that they do, they can kind of hasten the creation of the Third Temple and the rise of the Antichrist.
		And the part that's messed up about it...
		So this is called pre-millennial dispensationalism.
		This started in the 1800s.
		There were Zionists that actually funded these guys Darby and Schofield to conduct research and then create a bible that basically psyoped, in my opinion, all art and I'm gonna make a lot of enemies by saying this,
		And now, as a result of this Zionist-funded Scofield Bible, there's millions of Christians in America that believe that we should support everything Israel does so that the Antichrist can rise, they can create the Third Temple, and then boom, we're getting raptured at the beginning of the Tribulation.
		But I don't believe that's at all what the Bible supports.
		I know Donny's on the same page with that.
		And as far as like the things in Israel right now happening go and whether or not it's related to religion, I would actually argue the majority of it is related to religion.
		One of the things, so there was the October 7th attack from Hamas on Israel.
		Do you know what that operation was called?
		Al-Aqsa Storm.
		- Oh, right, right, right, right, yeah. - Okay, so, and this is something that completely went under the radar.
		So two days before the October 7th attack, over a thousand Israeli settlers stormed the Al-Aqsa compound.
		And the Al-Aqsa compound has the Al-Aqsa mosque and what's it called?
		The Dome of the Rock?
		Yep.
		I think it might be the Al-Aqsa Mosque.
		It might also be the Dome of the Rock.
		One of those buildings is the third oldest holy site in Islam.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me pull this up.
		Keep talking.
		We'll show this as you're talking.
unidentified		Yeah, so they stormed the Al-Aqsa compound, which is for Muslims, and this is like a huge...
		Huge religious no-no.
		Okay, this this is a very very sacred site for Muslims and Israeli settlers stormed it and the thing about the Al-Aqsa compound and Temple Mount in general is For the third temple to be created, this Islamic holy site would need to be flattened.
		Okay?
		And so for Israeli settlers to storm this compound and commit this egregious violation of Islamic sanctity, this is a massive sign of aggression towards the Islamic world.
		I don't think it's a coincidence that two days later, Hamas launches an attack called Al-Aqsa Storm.
		And I also know, I've been speaking with Muslims about this, If Israel moves to retake the Temple Mount and they flatten this Islamic compound, immediate nuclear war with Iran.
		Like immediate World War III.
		So it's a lot of this is very very religiously motivated and you've got on one hand See the Muslims, if any Muslims are listening, they're going to know what I'm talking about.
		Muslims do not want Israel to reclaim Temple Mount because they see the second Israel reclaims Temple Mount and they rise their Antichrist, they know that Israel is going to try and subjugate the entire planet with their Messiah.
		And Muslims don't want that to happen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or I could say they believe according to scripture.
unidentified		Yes, they believe according to their scriptures and their prophecies that Israel will attempt to subjugate the planet under their Messiah, and the Muslims see their Messiah as the Dajjal, as far as I understand.
		So this is like literally a holy war between Islam and Judaism.
		So I would argue that a lot of this is very religiously motivated, personally.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And as I mentioned earlier, I think it's also the inverse.
		If World War III kicks off, or I should say expanding regional conflict, then Israel may...
		Move to secure certain territories.
		I mean look let's let's remove religion from the equation and think about how this could happen outside of religion Let's say We've got we've got Iran attacking u.s.
		Forces.
		That's been reportedly Reported numerous times now.
		We've got u.s.
		Warships being attacked.
		I think in the Mediterranean or maybe on the go It was by it was no it was by Yemen in that like right right right yeah, okay, and I think the Bering Sea or something.
		Let's say this conflict escalates and you end up with Iran-backed militias, Houthi rebels.
		They're moving through the region.
		We've already had Houthi rebels firing, I believe, missiles.
		Let's say it comes from Jordan into the West Bank.
		Let's say we start getting escalating conflict happening near the River Jordan.
		Outside of any religious context, Israel says, we have to have full military secure domination of all of this territory.
		Now, a lot of people are immediately going to assume, oh no, it's always gonna be religious.
		No, no, no, I'm just saying.
		Imagine the U.S.
		says, if you don't control these checkpoints in this territory, you are at risk, your people will be killed.
		So, not religiously claiming the Temple Mount or whatever, they just secure the area with IDF forces, backed by the U.S., and now you have, inadvertently, Israel reclaiming the Holy Land.
unidentified		Yep.
unidentified		Yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Which is... Which results in... World War III.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, I do think that U.S.
		military forces and Israel, of course, they're cognizant of the fact that if they do secure this territory, what they would be saying to the Muslim world.
		But there could be people in military who are like, I don't care about religion.
		You are going to see a massacre unless we lock this down.
		Do it.
		And then you're going to have religious people being like, guess we have to do it.
unidentified		Maybe that's what we're being set up for right now.
		Yeah.
		Right now, what's happening on the world stage, to me, just seems like the perfect storm.
		And it's just, everything just seems to be lighting up so well for a savior to come.
		The calm before the storm, maybe?
		Yeah.
		The calm before the storm.
		Exactly.
		Trust the plan, Patriot.
		I don't think it's a coincidence that we see this rise of, you know, Q and this rhetoric about this coming great awakening.
		Well, and remember Q said, uh, saving Israel for last was one of the, was one of the posts.
		Yeah.
		Yeah, absolutely.
		See, I, it's funny because a lot of people say Q is a PSYOP, but I think it's a little more than that.
		I think it's a little deeper.
		I think Q is sort of a John the Baptist to the beast in the same way that John the Baptist paved the way for Christ.
		The same way that the beast will also have a John the Baptist that sort of paves the way for the beast.
		And it's interesting to see how cryptic and mysterious Q is and just the hold that it has on so many people coinciding with this talk about this great awakening.
		And I think that it's on the wings of this great awakening will come the false light and times deception.
		Because for many, many years, the occult has been propagating the idea of a coming age of spiritual awakening, of spiritual, the spiritual evolution of mankind that through defeating the tyranny of this current system, that's, That we will enter into a new age.
		Some people call it the age of Aquarius.
		Alistair Crowley called it the Aeon of Horus.
		It's called many different things by many different people.
		But ultimately I think it's all the same thing.
		Which is the real beast kingdom.
		The real New World Order.
		Which is, you know, not the counterfeit one that's being promoted right now.
		That's leading many people into fear.
		And through this fear that people are being led into, I believe people will be led into the false light of what's coming, this false light great awakening.
		Donnie, do you mind if I take it from there?
		Yeah.
		So, Tim, when you asked, you know, are we in these end times?
		So, you know, Donnie and Chase here, I love being on with them because they have so much scripture knowledge.
		I attack this subject from a different angle.
		Mainly through astrology, through the, if you're familiar with the Platonic Great Year, which is roughly a 25,000 year cycle, also called the Precession of the Equinox.
		And essentially we move throughout the 12 astrological signs when 2,000 years ago, you know, when we start, in the roughly 2,100 years, each part of the cycle.
		So when we were transitioning, the last time there was a Messiah, Jesus, it was 2,000 years ago, when we were transferring from the Age of Aries into the Age of Pisces.
		And now, 2,000 years later, we're moving from the Age of Pisces into the Age of Aquarius, which Donnie just said.
		And this, you know, this concept of a great awakening and the coinciding apocalypse, quote-unquote, one interesting thing that people don't really know is that the word apocalypse is actually just the Greek word meaning revelation.
		Yeah.
		So in the original, in the, you know, in the Greek writing of the Bible is literally just the revelation, the last book, is called apocalypse.
		So when we talk about Apocalypse coming, what the word actually means is just revelation, which is just a great revealing of what's been hidden.
		So, in terms of Great Awakening, you know, that's exactly what a revelation is.
		And, you know, it lines up perfectly with this Age of Aquarius.
		Aquarius is the knowledge bearer.
		And we're, you know, it's lining up, you know, it's lining up very well and that's essentially, you know, a lot of the end time prophecy is in Revelation.
		So essentially we're reaching this point where, you know, you're starting to have everything revealed and it's playing out in this book of the Bible.
		Yeah, yeah.
		The word apocalypse really just means, you know, to reveal and the word occult means hidden.
		And what I think is hidden and what is going to be revealed will be is the hidden occult mystery school teachings of human divinity.
		And what I think is going to happen is that I believe that the stage is being set right now for humanity to collectively rise up against this current order Which I call the harlot system.
		And it's funny because in Revelation 17, 16, we see that the beast, when he arrives on the scene, he doesn't initially start waging war on the saints.
		He actually wages war on a system called the harlot.
		And it's described in the Bible as a demonic stronghold.
		And I think right now what the stage is being set for humanity to rise up against this system and through its destruction shall come the rebirth of the real beast system.
		And in the occult we see these themes of destruction and rebirth all over the place.
		In the same way that by becoming a follower of Jesus Christ we are born again, In the occult, what happens is we're broken down, our old self is destroyed, and our new awakened enlightened self is born.
		It's funny because when you really look at it, you'll see that Satan really has never had an original idea yet.
		Everything in the occult is merely an inversion or perversion of biblical truth.
		And what I think this revealing is in the occult is the revealing that of the lie of the serpent that we are as gods and we will see humanity collectively.
		We will unify our collective consciousness, so to speak.
		And rise up just like early occult writers like Alice Bailey, who was the founder of the New Age.
		She founded the group Lucifer's Trust and a very devout occult writer.
		And she said that, you know, humanity would enter the New Awakened Age through defeating tyranny.
	And I think right now the stage is being set for humanity to join in the beast's Gnostic rebellion against the current system.
	Let's say Donald Trump is the Antichrist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He's supposed to be beloved by everybody, right?
unidentified		Not exactly.
		So, a lot of people do have this conception that the Antichrist will be loved by all.
		He'll be this young, charming guy, you know, who everybody likes.
		And, you know, a lot of people get this from, like, the Left Behind series and a lot of things and, like, Hollywood depictions of the Antichrist.
		But, you know, in Daniel chapter 11, it says that the Antichrist becomes strong with a small group of people.
		So when the Antichrist, you know, comes on the scene, he becomes very strong with a small group.
		And eventually, you know, he rises up to, uh, you know, to his political aspirations and leads the world into peace.
		It says in Daniel chapter 8 verse 25, he shall magnify himself in his heart and by peace he shall destroy many.
		It also says that in, in, uh, First Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 3 and this is this is one of the reasons why I find the Trump antichrist theory very interesting because it says in first Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 3 when people are saying Peace and security then sudden destruction will come upon them like the labor pains of a pregnant woman Part of the reason why this is interesting, Tim, is because... I don't know if... I'm sure you remember the Abraham Accords when Trump made peace in the Middle East.
		When you look at all the... Well, to a certain degree.
		To a certain degree.
		When you look at all of the banners behind them at their press conferences and whatnot, it says, peace and security in the Middle East, which is exactly what it said in Thessalonians.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick, I love this little piece of trivia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know the peace sign?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A hand sign.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what it really means?
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It means victory.
unidentified		Really?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so when you hold up two fingers, people think that means peace.
		It's technically meaning peace.
		The V is for victory.
		You're holding up victory over the battlefield after everyone's been killed, signifying peace has been achieved.
		How was peace achieved?
		You slaughtered your enemies.
unidentified		Peace through strength.
		And that's exactly what Trump has been saying lately, peace through strength.
		Yeah, the phone call where he was like, you know, I told them about nuke Moscow or Beijing.
		The n-word, the n-word, it's very bad.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We never say the n-word.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, nuclear.
unidentified		You do a good Trump impression.
		To go back, yeah, and to go back to your question a second ago about whether or not he'd be loved by everybody.
		So in Revelation 13, it says that the whole world will basically marvel at his miracles and at his ability to bring peace to the world.
		And people are going to literally worship him as a result of it.
		So a large portion of the world, like the Bible says, wide is the path to destruction.
		Narrow is the path to salvation.
		Few will find it, right?
		A large portion of the world, whoever the Antichrist is, a large portion of the world will be deceived by him and they will end up worshipping him.
		Whether that's Trump or somebody else, I don't know, but I want to simplify some of what you were saying a second ago, Donny, because it was like you were dropping a lot of like hardcore perspective on like the occult, the Great Awakening, all of that kind of stuff.
		Basically, Donny's thesis about Trump and all of this is that there is There is an obvious darkness that we all see in the world.
		Anybody who has their eyes awake, we see the rise of the new world order.
		There's digital IDs, central bank digital currencies, social credit scores, carbon credits, all of this stuff, right?
		We're walking into a world, basically, that's pushed by the World Economic Forum, where you have to get injected with the latest experimental gene therapy, and what you say is going to be tracked on social media.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You can't buy or sell unless you have the special program?
unidentified		Exactly.
		And the World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab, has repeatedly said that they want to microchip the entire population and attach those microchips to basically your wallet and all of these different things.
		That's like, and this is part of the reason why I'm so interested in this discussion, is because that technology, that has Mark of the Beast written all over it, in my opinion.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a funny thing happened.
		I think it was Luke Rutkowski mentioned Bill Gates wanted to microchip people for birth control or something like that.
		And I laughed and I was like, that's a stupid, come on, dude, are you kidding?
		And then we Googled it and it's like, Bill Gates did invest in a company that would do birth control implant chips or whatever.
		And yeah, there you go.
unidentified		I don't know.
		Have you seen his 060606 patent?
		I mean, that's like, dude, when I saw that, this is from April of 2020.
		For anybody who's unaware, Microsoft was awarded an international patent for a device that connects to your body, reads all of your biometric data.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's pull this one up real quick.
unidentified		And in exchange for your biometric data, this device would give you access to cryptocurrency.
		The patent number for this device, which was a randomly assigned patent number.
		060606.
		It's 060606, which is exactly what the Bible says in Revelation chapter 13.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Also, does Bill Gates see any currency?
unidentified		No, he's not charismatic enough.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So this is a National Post story.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Bill Gates funds birth control microchip that lasts 16 years inside the body and can be turned on or off with remote control.
unidentified		Dude, he's so evil, bro.
unidentified		He's so evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Luke tells me this and I'm like, shut up, dude.
		Bill Gates is not making birth control microchips you can remotely control.
		And then he's like, Google it.
unidentified		And I'm like, here it is from the National Post 10 years ago.
		Depopulationist gonna depopulation, bro.
		But yeah, so it's like, okay, we've got this going on.
		There's this obvious, obvious New World Order agenda.
		Like, we all see it.
		It's evil.
		It does need to be stopped.
		Donnie's thesis is that, and Drew as well, correct me if I'm wrong, is that this is, it's like a Hegelian dialectic that basically the Freemasons, Rothschilds, whoever, the people that control the world, are presenting to us where there's this obvious fake evil, Or I wouldn't say it's a fake evil, but there's this obvious evil that needs to be destroyed.
		Donnie's saying Trump, Elon Musk, whoever, they are the false light that will rescue the world from it.
		So it's like, okay, there's this obvious evil.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like Baldur's Gate.
unidentified		I don't know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The new game that just came out.
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		Baldur's Gate 3?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Baldur's Gate 3, did you play it?
unidentified		No, I haven't played it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Alright, spoiler alert for everybody, it's been out for a while but there's three people that are serving as avatars for each of the three gods of death and one guy represents the god of tyranny who says, you will be the evil who will march the army on Baldur's Gate and I will be the one who saves the world and becomes the leader.
unidentified		Hmm.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And that's- There you go.
unidentified		That's the plot.
unidentified		It's a very similar thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what Donnie and Drew Tang are saying is- Real quick, to clarify.
		Gortash is a bad guy who is to be the Archduke of Baldur's Gate.
		And working with him is Ketherick, who builds an army of an evil god who will march on the city.
		Gortash will save the city.
		And then, so basically by creating the evil he defeats, he ascends himself into the leader of the city.
unidentified		That's exactly the theory.
		Problem, reaction, solution.
		Yeah, and so like to expand upon it further, the idea is that Trump and Elon Musk would save us from that obvious New World Order evil and then lead the world into a Gnostic Age of Enlightenment where people have advanced technologies, diseases get healed.
		It's like Elon Musk says with Neuralink, it's like, it'll be like Jesus, you know, the blind will see, people will have eternal life.
		And so it's leading the world into like a Gnostic awakening.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But see, this is a better case for Elon Musk being the Antichrist.
unidentified		Elon Musk plays a very big role in it.
unidentified		So yeah, I'll take it from there.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But all of this, I don't think, points to Trump in any way.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think, Elon.
unidentified		Well, so, biblical prophecy actually does, because in Revelation 13, you have the beast, and then you have the second beast, the false prophet.
		Second beast!
		There's two of them?!
		Yeah, so it's like Jesus and John the Baptist, right?
		You had the Messiah, and then you had the guy who heralded the Messiah.
		So the false prophet heralds, basically, the Antichrist.
		I don't know who's who in this scenario.
		Trump could be the beast, he could be the second beast, I don't know.
		Donnie's convinced Elon is the second beast, false prophet.
		Basically you have the two guys, and then it says in Revelation 13 that the second beast, the false prophet, creates an image of the first beast.
		And hold on, hold on.
		- Leaves life into it, and then the world worships the image of the first beast, which to me sounds like some sort of AI, kind of like if you played Halo, Cortana, like some sort of AI creation that the world worships.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And if you've got everybody jacked into Neuralink, that's it. - And hold on, hold on.
		I think it's the important thing is, I'll say this as I would for any other theory or whatever, People will try to shoehorn whatever and be like, okay, so we recently had like something happened with a moon in Virgo or something like this.
		And then everyone said, that's one of the signs of revelation where the woman will do this thing.
		And it's like, yeah, you're just making that fit.
unidentified		But I forgot where I was going with this.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I kind of lost my train of thought as I got into that.
unidentified		So if you wanna, if you wanna switch over to the case for Elon- Oh, wait, wait, sorry, sorry, sorry, real quick.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I figured it out.
		I remembered.
		Um, there's the joke that Egyptians worshipped cats.
		Because they had cats everywhere.
		And the joke today is that we worship cats.
		Why?
		Because we have everything online is cats.
		We don't actually worship them, but we like... Give them our attention.
		Venerate?
		I don't know, we like put them in a position where, yes, we're constantly pointing and laughing about cats.
		We think they're funny, they're silly.
		We don't actually think they're gods or anything, but we like cats.
		So in terms of the word worship, what it could mean is, if there is an AI that's created, it's not that we're bowing before it, it's that we all hold it in our hands and speak to it.
		What if Grok is that?
		Grok just came out.
		I got it on my Twitter app.
		It's so much fun.
		And it's not that I'm worshipping it, but what if, how would you view a group of people that all asked Grok, what to do?
		What should I do?
		Where should I go?
		Give me the answers.
		An outside group would say, they clearly worship this thing where they believe it has all the answers for them.
unidentified		Yeah, worship isn't always, like, a lot of people, especially in the West, have this misconception about what worship is.
		You know, worship is of the heart.
		It's not always bowing down before an idol and, you know, doing chants.
		You know, we worship, there's so many things in our lives that we may worship that we don't even realize it, idols that we may have.
		And I think that's a common motif right now with the rise of atheism and materialism and secularism, is that there's a large amount of people who think, oh, I'm above having a god, I don't worship anything.
		But in fact, they've replaced what traditionally the spiritual needs that religion has filled, they've now filled it with a mecca trip to Walt Disney World, being obsessed with a pantheon of gods from the Avengers, And that actually rolls right into one of my main cases with Elon Musk, where Chase and Donnie here focus on scripture, which is awesome, and it complements so many things.
		It really lines up exactly with the stuff that I approach it from, but it's a bit of a different approach.
		You know how culture moves is Plato in his works on utopia.
		He talks in how to run a civilization.
		He's often paraphrased with this quote that says the people who tell the stories rule the civilization rule society.
		So the idea is the stories that you tell children in a society.
		It forms their ideas of morals.
		It tells them what a hero looks like.
		It tells them what a villain looks like.
		It teaches them whether to value individualism or collectivism.
		And if you look at the U.S., what's the equivalent of an American mythology?
		The Greeks had mythology.
		Egyptians had mythology.
		Romans had mythology.
		The equivalent of an American post-World War II, post-Christianity,
		World is um effectively these superhero movies which have a pan a pantheon of heroes whether it be the dc universe with superman and batman or the avengers universe with captain america um and iron man and quite literally thor a god exactly exactly so what's interesting about avengers um avengers endgame in the movie universe actually takes place in 2023
		2023 in Vietnamese astrology is a cat year, so you bringing up cats earlier was very relevant.
		But the long story short, Robert Downey Jr., who played Tony Stark, aka Iron Man, in the movies, he literally said, yeah, I kind of based the way I play the character off of the mannerisms of Elon Musk.
		And then he put Elon Musk in the movie.
		Yeah, Elon Musk was in Iron Man 2 right after, and what's really funny is, you know, we have all the X symbolism with Musk in, and you know, he's named all of his companies X forever, X.com, starting with X.com, and now he's basically reborn it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, X.com was back in the day.
unidentified		Which became PayPal, essentially.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, and now he's turned Twitter back into X.com.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		It's crazy.
unidentified		Which he's trying to add financial services and, you know, he wants to make- And it's already got Grok.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, this is like a large language database.
unidentified		Well, dude, look at- It's like Jarvis.
		Look at how all of this would evolve.
		Sorry to interrupt you, but look at how all of this would evolve, man.
		Like Elon Musk talks, he talks so frequently about human evolution and he's tweeted constantly about this.
		Like we are, his perspective is that we are moving towards some sort of collective consciousness hive mind.
		In which humanity is going to be connected to one another and artificial intelligence through neural link, right?
		And he constantly talks about how X is at the center of all of this.
		Look at the natural or I would say the highly unnatural being pushed in this direction.
		Look at the unnatural evolution of all of this.
		You have humanity's quote-unquote collective consciousness being collected on X.com.
		He's building AI with Grok.
		I'm sure Grok is like absorbing all of this information from the collective consciousness that we're putting on X. It is.
		Yes.
		And then eventually at some point in time Neuralink is going to get rolled out.
		Elon Musk in his sit down with Benjamin Netanyahu in I think it was September 18th, around then.
		He said that AGI, his prediction and Ray Kurzweil's as well, AGI will be fully online around the year 2029.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Artificial General Intelligence.
unidentified		Yes, which is like the super like godlike AI.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Singularity.
unidentified		Yes.
unidentified		And AI can teach itself new things progressively.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We're already at the point where the large language models they've built like GPT can alter its own code.
unidentified		Wasn't that OpenAI, wasn't that recent drama with OpenAI, it was rumored to be because there was a big advancement within the project and that's why they got rid of Altman and brought him back?
unidentified		Towards AGI, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well I think that's grossly exaggerated, what it was, because what happened was...
		Here's what I think really happened.
		So they tried to oust Sam Altman, and what everyone starts sharing is that there was an advancement towards AGI that could put humanity at risk, and Altman was like, don't care, just do it!
		In reality, it looks like what they were saying was work behaviors were detrimental to the people at the office and management didn't care.
		So it sounds like what happens is they write a letter where they're like, the actions taken by, you know, the leadership of this company were bad for the people who work here.
		And that morphed into a guy tweeting, they were saying that, you know, that it's gonna be a threat to humanity.
		And it was like, whoa, slow down.
		They're basically saying the bosses were being mean to them.
unidentified		Well, whatever happened, and this is a perfect segue into your thesis, whatever happened, this threat that AGI poses to humanity was central in Elon Musk's conversation with Benjamin Netanyahu a couple of months ago.
		Basically, the idea, for anybody unaware, is that when AGI comes online, there will be a digital superintelligence that will be so powerful that humanity won't be able to control it.
		It becomes out of control and it decides that it wants to make the human race go extinct.
		There's nothing we'll be able to do to stop it, which is why Elon Musk has decided to create Neuralink.
		As he said on Joe Rogan's podcast, it's like, okay, we're not going to be able to beat this.
		This is going to be a godlike intelligence.
		If you can't beat it, Join it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He basically was saying, like, how do you stop a Terminator scenario?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Be part of the system.
unidentified		Exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Now, let me tell you something crazy.
		I just got Grok.
		This is the X large language model program that's integrated with Twitter.
		If you're a premium user, you get access to it.
		It is leaps and bounds better than GPT.
unidentified		I've seen.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I asked it this morning, who is Mr. Bocas?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys know who Mr. Bocas is?
unidentified		Is that your cat?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's my cat.
		Why would anyone know that?
		Why would it, why would it, why would, it knew.
		It said, Mr. Bocas is a cat.
		His owners post, talk about him online.
		And I was like, wow.
unidentified		So, okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it said his real name is Bocas, not Mr. Bocas, but they call him that.
		And now it did make a mistake and it's pissed me off.
		But it gave me this big breakdown where it was like, Mr. Bocas is a cat, blah, blah, blah.
		And I was like, it's like his owners are active on the internet and they often talk about his antics.
		And I was like, that's weird that there's no articles anywhere written about my cat.
		How did it know this?
		Uh, and then as we were coming into the studio, I asked it again, and it said, Mr. Bocas is a cat who recently passed away, which is incorrect.
		And I said, you are wrong.
		Mr. Bocas is alive.
		And then it said, oh, I'm sorry, I'll fix that in the future.
		And then I asked it again, okay, now who is Mr. Bocas?
		And it said, Mr. Bocas is a cat that recently passed away.
		And I was like, no, you are wrong.
		But either way.
		My point is, the fact that it knows my cat exists is weird.
unidentified		The real question is, will it tell you what H.P.
		Lovecraft's cat's name is?
		Oh, right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It probably will.
unidentified		What is H.P.
		Lovecraft's cat?
		We can't say.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		We don't say that on YouTube.
unidentified		Can't do it.
unidentified		Can't do it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Very offensive.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Very offensive.
unidentified		We don't say.
		Oh, nuclear.
		Yeah, nuclear.
		Ah, I see.
		But yeah, I mean, okay, so look at the logical progression of it.
		So you've got AI.
		If AI is this advanced right now, and just look at where it was a couple of years ago, like it was so basic and rudimentary in comparison to how it is now.
		If it continues to become more and more advanced, like Elon Musk's case for pushing Neuralink, it makes sense, practically speaking.
		Uh, from a spiritual perspective, it's extremely dangerous, but Elon Musk, in this scenario, he's done a lot of predictive programming around, uh, this concept of Deus Ex.
		Are you familiar with the Deus Ex literary plot device or the video games?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Deus Ex Machina?
unidentified		Yes.
		Yeah.
		Okay, so Elon Musk keeps, he, he, as Drew Tang pointed out brilliantly, he Elon Musk set his profile picture to the main character.
		He continues to tweet- He looks like the main character, too.
		Yeah, he does, and basically- From Deus Ex?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the idea is- I mean, I think- Well, I'll slow down and I'll explain the- at least the literary device.
		It means a god from the machine, which usually references that when you're writing a story, you can make the plot fit by just writing it.
		You can just say, I- I- there.
unidentified		And so... And it's also oftentimes how it'll be used is if everything seems lost in a story, like there's no hope for the characters, there'll be a deus ex machina moment where a character gets introduced that completely saves the day.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		But it could be more more broad than that.
		I've criticized a lot of movies for their deus ex machina where it's like, you know, imagine you have, but you make a good example, so imagine you have The superhero's trying to stop the evil hackers who have stolen the virus from the International Weapons Depot.
		And then, all of a sudden, the virus is about to be released when there's a flash of light and a magnetic pulse from outer space deactivates the virus.
unidentified		Right, right, exactly.
unidentified		That's the Deus Ex plot device.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The writer just said, and nothing happened.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, well, okay, come on.
unidentified		So you have this concept of some sort of salvation getting randomly introduced to the story, and it also means God out of the machine, which is interesting in the context of artificial intelligence because everybody in AI is basically saying, hey, we're creating some sort of God-like intelligence.
		And I think Drew Tang is right that Elon Musk views himself as kind of the savior of humanity in this scenario.
		Do you want to riff on that?
		Yeah, so when we were bringing up, I'm glad Tim brought up video games and stuff like that earlier and how it connects.
		So, Deus Ex, the video game, was released in 2000, but somehow in the game, it takes place in New York, but in the game the Twin Towers are already destroyed by a terrorist attack.
		They were attacked before, so it's not like it wasn't in the media.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people, especially with Loose Change 9-11, were like, the US government released this report on the Twin Towers and crosshairs, and I'm like, yeah, everybody knew the Twin Towers symbolized Western capitalism and the IMF and all of these things, so they were huge targets.
unidentified		Yeah, so, and we can get into, there's a lot of symbolism connecting the two towers and the two temples, which we were, you know, talking about earlier.
		Because 9-11, the day that the Romans destroyed the second temple, Herod's Temple, was the 9th of Av in the Jewish calendar.
		And the 9th of Av is the 9th day of their 11th month.
		9-11 is the 11th day of our 9th month.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's let's go back to the video game.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
		Sorry.
		So so anyways, Deus Ex, basically the plot is there's a cyborg government agent that is basically a transhumanist that finds out that the pandemic that's been going around was a government bioweapon.
		And that and then because of that, he turns on the government in the end of the movie, which is kind of what you were talking about before, Tim.
		One of the there's multiple endings that you can choose depending on
		Your choices in the game, but one of them is to fully merge with this godlike AI and basically rule society Benevolently quote-unquote and that is you know, that's a scenario that that we've basically been discussing previously previously here and In fact in in terms of deus ex machina, it's you know Musk continues to tweet it and he'll but he of course replaces ex with just X
		And he's also set the main character as his profile picture multiple times.
		I think he draws a lot of inspiration from the game and sees himself basically as this transhumanist savior.
		Which is like, if it's organic, it's admirable.
		Right?
		If it's organic, it's admirable, but I'm not fully convinced that it's organic because Elon Musk has continuously alluded to kind of like New World Order satanic symbolism, right?
		He wore his Devil's Champion Halloween costume.
		Made his profile pic for months.
		Made it his profile picture.
		Do you remember the Devil's Champion Halloween costume?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, but what is the Devil's Champion?
unidentified		Well, so it's, I mean, in the context of eschatological discussion, like, I think it could be, I think it could be a signal where he's telling us who he actually is.
		And I don't think that just because he posted that.
		I also look at his mother, May Musk.
		She is constantly flaunting this Illuminati symbolism on magazine covers.
		And like, if you've, if you've done your research on quote-unquote conspiracy theories, like this is like the Freemasonic hand signal.
		Over the eye, it's a symbol of the all-seeing eye, basically, Masonic symbolism.
		There's that, but also on top of that, one of the things that I noticed that Musk did a few years ago, I believe it was at the Met Gala, I think in 2018, he wore a tuxedo jacket that said Novus Ordo Seclorum on the back of it, And his caption said Illuminati, and naughty was spelled like N-A-U-G-H-T.
		Kind of being like, kind of being like, oh, I might be in the Illuminati, I might not.
		And for anybody who's unaware, the Novus Ordo Seclorum, this is like, this is kind of like an ancient prophecy.
		It's also the Freemasonic ideal of the Novus Ordo Seclorum in Latin means the new order of the ages.
		You can see it on the back of the $1 bill.
		Yes, yes.
		Right below the all-seeing eye at the top of the pyramid.
		It's the New Order of the Ages, right?
		The New World Order.
		The Founding Fathers, who were Freemasons, they saw this as basically like the Age of Aquarius, the age when humanity would become enlightened demigods and would basically ascend And fulfill the Freemasonic ideal of true enlightenment, which is, as Donnie's been talking about, the Gnostic, Luciferian ideal of ascending into godhood, right?
		So Elon Musk wears this Novus Ordo Seclorum jacket, and to people who don't have eyes to see, to the uninitiated, he's just like, oh, like Illuminati, like I'm just joking around.
		But I look at that and I'm like, are you actually telling us who you are?
		Are you in part of the club and you're kind of signaling to us beforehand what's about to go down?
		That's what I want to know.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So what, he wore a Halloween costume?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, was it a costume of something specific, or did he just wear it?
unidentified		It has the Baphomet on it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I know that, but I'm saying, like, did he make a costume, or was he in costume as a character who wears this?
unidentified		No, I don't think he was in costume as a character who wears it.
		I just think it was a bit of a conspicuous and peculiar costume for somebody to wear who seems to be aligned with what I perceive as an Antichrist agenda.
		Because the whole idea of giving humanity, and he talks about this, giving humanity eternal life through transhumanism.
		In his sit down with Benjamin Netanyahu, Netanyahu was like, okay, so what happens when we have incredible abundance with AI and transhumanism and robotics?
		And Elon was like, look, I mean, we're basically going to be creating heaven on earth, right?
		We're going to have so much abundance, you won't have to work.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's not heaven.
unidentified		That is not heaven at all.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, like people need to understand, if you're given everything you could ever possibly want, you're actually in hell.
		Like, people imagine that heaven must be where you get everything you want.
		You're golfing, you're on the beach, you're drinking martinis.
		No, everything becomes devoid of meaning.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And you become listless, and you lose what makes you human.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you can experience this easily.
		Everybody who's played video games knows this.
		When you play with full cheat codes and God mode in a video game, it gets boring super quick and you don't want to play anymore.
		There's no game.
		There's nothing to do.
		Humans need conflict and challenge to feel satisfied.
unidentified		Yes, and I believe this is the great satanic lie that humanity will be told, which is that we can have eternal life through technology.
		You don't need Jesus Christ for it.
		We can create heaven on earth through technology.
		You don't need Jesus Christ for it.
		And this is exactly the kind of scenario that caused God to kick Adam and Eve out of the garden.
		Right at the end of Genesis chapter 3 God said you know it's they ate the fruit of the tree of knowledge they rebelled against God and God cut them off from the tree of life because you had human beings who were in rebellion to God that would have then had eternal life.
		When I think about the definition of hell I think human beings who have eternal life, who are eternally in rebellion to God.
		I think if humanity tries to create heaven on earth through AI, transhumanism, all of this kind of stuff, you're going to have people that are trying to create heaven, but they're still wicked internally.
		And if you have wicked beings who live forever, how could that not descend into hell on a long enough time span?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was a funny meme I saw, and it was Christian Bale smiling, and it said, me looking up from hell as a digital cyborg clone of myself pretends to live my life.
unidentified		That's an HBO show now, I think.
unidentified		I forget what it's called.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, on Amazon, there's Upload, I think it's called.
unidentified		Oh yeah, that's the one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, where it's like you download your brain.
		But of course, you can't actually download your soul or what makes you you into a computer.
		It could theoretically only copy what you are, and then you're staring at a copy of yourself pretending to be you, and then you die, and then that's the meme.
		You're looking up from hell as this robot version of yourself is living your life.
		You know what they're doing with like Facebook, right?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They've been doing this for a long time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Everything you've ever posted on Facebook, they load that into a large language model program, and you can talk to a dead loved one.
unidentified		Whoa.
		I mean, that's probably what they're going to do with X too.
		Like, they're taking all of our data.
		Like, if you're active on X, they basically know exactly who you are, how you speak, what you think, so on and so forth.
		Oh, it's crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Facebook, famously, there was an article, and this is like 10 years, 10 years ago, Facebook knows when you poop.
		They know.
		Yeah, so the important thing to understand about AI is that There's really cool things they're doing with it, like there are things on the macro scale that we can't see and we don't know correlate with, say, a disease.
		Let's say there's a disease, let's just go for sickle cell anemia.
		And we know that we can look at someone's cells and see that their cells are misshapen, it's causing clotting issues.
		What we may not realize is that perhaps people who eat toast for breakfast have a 70% higher likelihood of developing this disease.
		But when everyone's medical data is loaded into the AI, all of a sudden one day the singularity, the AGI, A doctor will load your DNA profile into the machine and it'll say, Hello, Dr. Smith.
		We've correlated that everyone who seems to have this genetic marker around the age of 35 develops this abnormality.
		And so we wouldn't even know to look for it.
unidentified		Right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It could be something as weird and ridiculous as people who sit for three minutes a day, higher on average, tend to develop cataracts faster.
		And you'd be like, how would we even correlate these things?
		But the AI will see all the data instantly and be able to tell you that, yes, here is one factor that no one's, you know, even bothered to look for that connects with these diseases.
		So what happens is Facebook notices that 37 minutes before going to the bathroom, there is a 27% chance that a human will move 10 meters.
		That's it.
		We might not even know this, right?
		Perhaps something as absurd as humans tend to walk two degrees north an hour before going to the bathroom.
		And most people, no one's gonna track something like that, but Facebook tracking your location data notices this and then feeds the data back to a person and says, hey, this is really weird.
		Every single person That we're tracking, and it's like basically everybody on Facebook, because your phone has location data, they'll be like, hey, they all seem to walk 10 feet, and then an hour later, they all seem to go to the bathroom in a different direction.
		In reality, what happens is, it's much simpler than that.
		Facebook knows that you've been sitting for five hours at work, that you haven't moved from your workplace, meaning you're probably hungry.
		The average person would prefer to eat around a certain time.
		So it knows you're likely going to eat within the next X amount of time.
		You're likely going to choose one of these restaurants to the proximity to your location.
		You're likely going to choose this restaurant because you chose that restaurant last time, which means this kind of food has a digestion period of about x many hours, which means you will likely be in the bathroom at this time.
		Facebook knows all that.
unidentified		That's crazy.
		And you can see how that would evolve into like, when people are giving over their genetic data, they're giving over their health records, and then AI is tracking what people are eating, so on and so forth.
		And as like new life extension technologies continue to develop, I mean, people are going to pitch humanity on, hey, here's what you need to do in order to live forever.
		These are the technologies you need to get implanted, the foods you need to eat, so on and so forth.
		And to Donnie's thesis, Jared Kushner, interestingly, is a transhumanist.
		Did you see that clip of him talking about how we're like the first generation that will never have to die?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, so actually 10 years ago, longer than 10 years ago, I was at... Man, like 13 years ago, I was at an event for the Senescence Foundation, and I got to watch a speech by Dr. Aubrey de Grey.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Are you familiar with him?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He said at the time that... What did he say?
		It's been so long, but something like, people who are under the age of 45 today will live to be a thousand years old.
		He said it's not because we're going to invent a pill that creates immortality.
		It's that the rate at which we cure diseases which cause death will be outpaced by the aging process itself.
		So if you are 20 years old today, by the time you're 30, we'll have cured A whole litany of diseases, meaning you will now be able to live to be 80.
		But by the time you're 40, we'll have cured all the diseases allowing you to live to be 100.
		By the time you're 70, we'll have cured all the diseases allowing you to live to 150.
		By the time you're 150, we've cured all those- we're talking 80 more years, we've cured all the diseases that will allow you to live to be 500, and so on and so forth.
unidentified		But then you'd live to be 500 years old as, like, a 150-year-old... No.
		...who has terrible health.
		Nope.
		That's not... Because they would have to reverse the aging process to give you vitality.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And right now, today, Mr. Bocas is alive.
		He was supposed to be dead a year ago.
		He was given two weeks.
		He was barely walking.
		It was really sad.
		That's my cat, of course.
		And he stumbled his way to the litter box, didn't make it in, and then just crapped right on himself onto the floor.
		And we thought this was it.
		I thought he was done.
		So we got him emergency medicine and IV bags and stuff like that.
		And they were like, his kidneys are in late stage failure.
		His body is not producing red blood cells.
		This is the end.
		He had, uh, he was a street cat, he was, uh, he had small kidneys, they were not fully developed, likely because growing up in the street eating garbage, he didn't grow properly, and he has a heart valve defect for similar reasons.
		And so they said the problem is the medication for the kidneys causes heart stress and the medication for the heart causes kidney failure.
		So I'm sorry, like, they actually told us we would like to put him down now because, look, he can't walk.
unidentified		What'd you shoot him up with?
unidentified		Sounds like Canadian healthcare.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, let me tell you.
		So I talked to our good friend Alex Stein, who is a huge cat lover, and he said, don't do it, Tim.
		He's like, when my cat died, she curled up in my lap, and I laid with her, and then she passed on, and that's what you have to do.
		And I said, I'm not gonna have them just kill my cat.
		I'm gonna do what we can.
		Ian Crossland said, stem cells.
		There's a doctor who can culture stem cells from Mr. Bocas' own fat, And then cycle those stem cells back into his body and start regenerating Mr. Bocas.
		Mr. Bocas is alive a year later.
		We've actually taken him off some of the medication.
		He's been getting stem cells.
		He got stem cells just the other day.
		And he's never lost his appetite.
		He's still ravenous.
		He eats a lot.
		He's not as spry as he used to be.
		He is very thin.
		He used to run around and jump.
		And as his kidneys began failing, So what happened was, a year ago, he would be sitting on the ground and then he would just fall over.
		Because his red blood cell count was dropping, he wasn't getting proper blood flow to his brain, and this is when we realized something was wrong and they were like, he's got no blood cells.
unidentified		Did the stem cells increase his red blood cell count?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know exactly what's going on.
		Okay.
		I don't know.
		What I know is we gave him a stimulant that triggers the kidneys to start producing red blood cells, but his kidneys were supposed to have failed by now.
		They have not.
		In fact, they've started regaining function.
		As we've been continually giving him stem cells, I can only assume the stem cells are actually working.
		We gave him another round just the other day.
		He's hanging out downstairs, walking around, he's eating food.
		And if he got an extra year out of it, maybe that's all we'll get, but we're very happy he's alive.
		I recently was having joint issues, and I went down to the Cellular Performance Institute in Tijuana, and I got a bunch of stuff.
		Not just stem cells, but they do stem cell treatment, they do hyperbaric oxygen chamber stuff, they do ozone therapies and a bunch of things.
		I recommend you check it out.
		All these MMA guys swear by it.
		And so I found out about it, obviously, because Joe Rogan's on the show and he's talking about it.
		These are guys who have serious injuries.
		They go in and they get a stem cell injection and it regenerates cartilage and ligaments and things like this.
		And they're also doing experiments with curing paralysis.
		So I'm talking to these guys and I'm like, stem cells are someone else's cells that can become any cell.
		I'm like, Explain to me how this is not possible, but if you give someone a massive blast of stem cells, which lasts three months, and those cells go into the organs and repair the damage, how would that not make you immortal if you did it consistently over and over again, constantly having foreign stem cells into your body repairing all the cellular damage?
unidentified		Where do they get these stem cells?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They culture them themselves.
		So they have, there's two ways you can do it.
		In the United States, they will take your own bone marrow And then culture stem cells.
		So they feed the cells.
		The cells are replicating rapidly.
		It's your DNA in your cells.
		Run them through your body and your own cells magnified repair all the damage in your body.
unidentified		Damn.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Then there is umbilical stem cells.
		So after a baby is born, you've got the umbilical cord and the placenta and it's effectively medical waste.
		But there are stem cells floating around in it.
		They extract those, replicate them, the culture them, and then blast those into people's bodies or inject them into locations where there's like cellular damage, cartilage damage.
		And then it starts to repair and rebuild.
		The crazy thing is when the cartilage gets worn down and is like gone, it's gone.
		And so what they do is they do like nylon hip replacements or whatever, where they put it, they surgically implant a disc.
		So the bone rubs against smooth plastics or whatever.
		Now they just, as long as you have some cartilage, they can inject into the joint stem cells, which will turn into the cartilage and rebuild all of that stuff.
		So where we're at now, I'm asking these guys, and I'm asking other people involved, I was like, if you give someone a massive dose of stem cells, which go into their organs and replace the aging dead cells with fetal, like umbilical, like fetal, pure stem cells, these are, these, so, I don't know how many, I'm very cursor-interested in this stuff, but cells can only replicate a certain number of times.
		And I'm like, a stem cell from an umbilical cord should be like a baby's stem cell that can replicate at maximum 100%.
unidentified		Yeah, it's essentially a fountain of youth if you just keep getting those injections.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I'm like, they're not injections, they're IVs.
		They run it through your whole body.
		And I'm like, wouldn't that imply that if your body is breaking down and you're flooding it with stem cells from umbilical cords or from placenta, you would just never die?
		And I get shrugs.
		I don't know.
unidentified		I mean, when I hear that, I think eventually the process of entropy would have to take over.
		Like, who knows?
		You know, with all of the technologies that are coming out, you might be able to extend your life to 200, 500, 1,000 years.
		But at some point in time, entropy is going to have to take over.
		And in order to truly negate that, I think you're going to have to digitize consciousness, start getting cyborg limbs, so on and so forth.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
unidentified		I think the two play into each other.
		So this plays into the overall, you know, storyline that we're talking about here, where there's the obvious bad guys, the depopulation, the depopulation agenda, you know, Bill Gates on stage talking about, you know, reducing carbon and whatever.
		And then you have the Elon Musk, Iron Man, defeating Thanos, who has a depopulation plot.
		He's very much in, you know, he talks about depopulation and underpopulation being the biggest problem facing humanity.
		And if you notice, I haven't heard Bill Gates talk about overpopulation in a long time.
		But in general, if you are going to have people live to 200 years old, then you're going to have to rapidly decrease the population either through involuntary infertilization or, you know, There's plenty of other options for depopulation, which you can use your imagination for.
		Which, as far as I understand, this is Alex Jones' thesis, that the elites, like, they're setting everything up so that they can depopulate the Earth to 500 million, which is also what the Georgia Guidestones talked about.
		Before they blew up, yeah.
		Yeah, and then you would have this enlightened age where mankind is ascending to the next level, and if you only have a population of 500 million people that are all using this technology, I think in their minds, they believe, okay, then you can sustain this kind of breakaway civilization as Alex Jones calls it.
		You know, you can't have 8 billion people in their minds doing this kind of radical life extension, but if you have 500 million people doing it, then you could create this like super advanced civilization.
		Yeah.
		I think that's what they believe.
		Yeah, and some interesting, just to tie that back, you know, we're talking about this, you know, this utopia situation with the false light awakening and it being tied back to, you know, Adam and Eve eating of the fruit of the tree of life and knowing, becoming like God and tree of knowledge and knowing of good and evil.
		That is Genesis 3.22, is that verse.
		Yeah, Skull and Bones.
		And that's exactly the numbers that are under the Skull and Bones insignia, which, you know, we had George Bush run against John Kerry.
		We're both Skull and Bones members, and you look into U.S.
		history, the Skull and Bones, you know, they're very involved in a lot of things.
		But to get back to the Georgia Guidestones, they were erected on March 22nd, 1980, which of course March 22nd is 322.
		What was the name of the anonymous individual who he went by his pseudonym?
		R.C.
		Christian.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone slammed a car into him.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They rebuild him, right?
unidentified		Someone blew him up a couple years ago.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's what it was.
unidentified		No, it was last year.
		I visited it twice and the second time I was with one of my friends, Nick Hinton, another Twitter author and conspiracy theorist.
		And we had just gone to Jekyll Island, which I'm sure you're familiar with.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's close to Savannah.
unidentified		I mean, beautiful place, really.
		And it's, for those who don't know, it was basically like a precursor in some ways to like a Epstein's Island, where it's like, you know, maybe not the human trafficking part, but it was where extremely wealthy people went to vacation.
		So we're talking Rockefellers, JP Morgan, Ford, those type of folks, the Gilded Age industrialists.
		And that's where they secretly plotted the Federal Reserve What's interesting though, and what I didn't know until I went back last time, is the Rockefeller's house, which obviously the Rockefeller family is extremely influential in the U.S., and even in founding the U.N.
		and stuff like that, they donated land for the U.N.
		But their house, all the other houses are named after the people who were in them, except for the Rockefeller house is just referred to as the Indian Mound House.
		But what they don't tell you is what was in the Indian mound, of course referring to a Native American mound that was there, but...
		It was actually their, um, it was their human sacrifice altar was in this mound.
		And, uh... But that's, that's, that's, that's theory.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like, that's not definitive.
unidentified		Well, yeah, so they, well, they don't, they don't tell you that, but that's, uh, according to, um, yeah, according to some people, that's what, um, that's what the mound was.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like Native Americans were sacrificing people there?
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
		Well, I mean, which isn't necessarily, you know, out of the question.
		I mean, we have the Aztecs and everybody.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Aztecs are crazy.
unidentified		They love that shit.
		But anyways, that's what the Indian Mound House.
		And so we went there, we were listening to this podcast by this guy who went there in 2007.
		And he said he was going there on like a, he had like an intuition, like a mission from God.
		He went there, he got a private tour.
		The tour guide told him when he was in the Indian Mound house, he's like, yeah, this is, it's built on top of this altar, this Native American altar.
		So the guy said he prayed until he saw the, like, visualized the face of Jesus and he heard a big crack.
		And he, he claims that he believes that he, he destroyed the altar with, uh, with the power of prayer.
		So when we went there, when we went, uh, so we went there and then immediately after we went to, uh, the Georgia Guidestones, cause we were scoping out places for a documentary we're going to make.
		And we went to the Georgia Guidestones afterwards and we said, you know what?
		Why don't we try?
		This is a similar altar and there was bloodstains on the top so somebody was using it as an altar for something.
		We decided, hey, why don't we pray over it just like this guy talked about doing at Jekyll Island and, you know, let's see what happens.
		Three months and three days later is when they blew up.
		Let's go.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		According to Wikipedia, it turns out that the Indian mound was a garbage dump for Native Americans.
unidentified		Well, that's, I mean, that's what they say.
unidentified		That's Wikipedia.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, but I think it's funny, it would be really funny if they're like, we're going to build this cottage above what was an Indian mound.
		And like, I wonder what that means.
		And then later they're like, it was a garbage dump.
		You built your house on a garbage dump.
		Sounded great at the time.
unidentified		Well, the Indian mound thing is a really interesting part of American history that is actually banned from, you can't excavate Indian mounds anymore because they're, you know, they say it's because, you know, you're disturbing Native American land, but Um, you know, of course there's rumors that there's um...
		There's giants, giant skeletons in there, which there's a lot of newspaper articles from, um, from back in the day.
		And basically the idea is that the Smithsonian comes around, collects the skulls and then dips out.
		And there are actually, there are actually some real still, you know, uh, viewable, um, skulls like that.
		Like for instance, the Baraka skulls in Peru, which have a 20% larger cranial capacity.
		Straight up Nephilim descendants right there.
		And that's actually those, you know that Mexican press conference?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wikipedia calls it cranial deformation.
unidentified		Well yeah, their concept is that, and there are tribes that would bind children's skulls to extend them to look more like their gods, but these Paracas skulls are unique in the fact that they actually, when you simply smoosh the skull, you don't get higher cranial capacity, But these Paracas skulls do have up to 20% higher cranial capacity.
		And that's actually, what's interesting is Peru is a very interesting place historically.
		Obviously you have Machu Picchu.
		Coneheads.
		Built up in the mountains.
		And that's also, you know that Mexican press conference with the alien bodies, Tim?
		Did you see that this year?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, what was that?
unidentified		So fake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All those bodies are from Peru.
unidentified		What?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Someone made cake versions of them and kinda goes, CAKE THE WHOLE TIME!
unidentified		It's actually cake!
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Fake bodies.
unidentified		So here, check this out, this is what they did.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They put the babies in this thing that would flatten their heads and make their heads grow, or whatever.
unidentified		Gnarly.
		Wait, so, Drew, you said that they did this in order to imitate their gods in Peru?
		That's, well, there's, I believe that's a tribe in Africa that I'm thinking of, and, you know, it's cranial binding like that is Um it's uh you know there's there's practices all over the world of different tribes and yeah some of them are saying to you know imitate their gods.
		Okay.
		But um.
		Interesting.
		Yeah I think I think if they're imitating any gods I think the quote-unquote lowercase g gods that they're imitating are probably the fallen angels of Genesis 6.
		This is one of the super interesting things about history, and we can tie it in with that article that I sent you about Trump and Netanyahu being in contact with aliens.
		This is one of the interesting things about history that very few people talk about.
		I mean, all of these ancient civilizations have very similar myths of a flood.
		And, uh, gods that came down from the heavens and made it with human beings.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And, and they're all, they're all similarly described as like eight or nine foot tall.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like green or blue skin.
unidentified		Yes.
		Yes.
		And there's in, in so many of these ancient cultures on different continents around the world, they have a statue depictions of these like reptilian beings and whatnot that have these elongated heads.
		And what's interesting about that is in the Bible in Genesis six, this is why God flooded the earth in Genesis six, according to many scholars.
		Yeah, it says in the beginning of Genesis 6 that the sons of God came down and they mated with the daughters of man and their offspring were the Nephilim, the giant human beings, the men of renown, the great men of old, okay?
		And so think about Greek mythology, right?
		What do you have?
		You have Zeus coming down from Mount Olympus and mating with a human woman in order to create Hercules.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Didn't he like turn himself into a duck or something?
unidentified		I don't know.
unidentified		Think about the epic of Gilgamesh.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He like banged his kids too, I think.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Zeus?
unidentified		Probably.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Was it Zeus?
unidentified		Probably.
		I don't know, but you have this story of the gods coming down and creating demigod beings.
		Like, this is on pretty much every continent on Earth except for Antarctica, and it talks about how these beings were giants.
		Yeah, exactly.
		I want to know what's in Antarctica, Tim.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Maybe the ice melts and then we're like, yo!
		You know what would be crazy?
		If ice melts and it reveals massive structures.
unidentified		Probably.
unidentified		Have you seen the satellite images of like the pyramids on Antarctica and stuff?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Pyramids on Antarctica?
unidentified		Yeah, dude, there's straight up pyramids on Antarctica.
unidentified		I think it's very suspect that nobody's really allowed to go travel and explore throughout Antarctica.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wow, it's a history channel.
unidentified		Yeah, dude, I feel like there's a lot of stuff in Antarctica that they're hiding.
unidentified		But anyways, so, are you looking for the pyramids?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're not just, it's nothing.
unidentified		Yeah, there's satellite images of them.
		And that's, I mean, the pyramids are one of the hallmarks of this ancient civilization.
		This is something Graham Hancock talks a lot about.
		Oh yeah, look at this.
		Wow.
		Yep, yep, yep.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wow, this is not in dispute.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's actually, there's actually a pyramid in Antarctica.
unidentified		Yep.
		So that one's that and our pyramid like a mountain they call it.
		The Antarctica one is, you know, it is possibly just a mountain.
		Oh, sorry.
		It is possibly just a mountain.
		But there are in terms of like if you want to look at the biggest, like not talked about pyramids are actually in China where the Chinese actually pay.
		The Chinese government pay the farmers whose land the pyramids are on.
		They pay them to plant trees on top of them.
		So it's harder to see with aerial photography.
		But those, those are, yeah, they're humongous pyramids in China, which, you know, that doesn't get talked about at all.
		Yeah, and Graham Hancock makes the case that this is all part of an ancient civilization that used to exist, and I think this is, you know, where you start getting into Atlantis and the pre-flood era in the Bible.
		Like, I believe, I mean, if you read the Sumerian Uh, Cuneiform Tablets and Zechariah Sitchin's work, it talks about how these gods came from the planet Nibiru.
		They're called the Anunnaki.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		They, in their myths, it says that they created humanity, but like the Epic of Gilgamesh, which- Wasn't it because, like, they have an elliptical- Their atmosphere was damaged and they needed gold.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Right, so every 2,500 years, their planet loops around the sun real fast, and while they're in range, they come to Earth to mine, to have humans as slave labor mine the gold.
unidentified		Yes.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the reason why humans are so, like, we don't know, we don't know who God is, we don't know the nature of existence is because we were created by the aliens specifically to be left stupid.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's how- Smart enough to do labor, but not smart enough to be free and understand the nature of existence.
unidentified		Yeah, that's how, like, the mythology goes.
		And so, you know, it's the same story.
		Epic of Gilgamesh, I believe it was Enlil, came down and mated with a human woman and then had, like, two-thirds god, one-third human offspring.
		And Gilgamesh was, like, 15 feet tall and, like, super powerful.
		This myth is, like, all over the world.
		Graham Hancock says that they're connected by these pyramids and whatnot.
		And I think, so one of the interesting things that Jesus Christ said, he said in Matthew chapter 24 that in the final days it would be like it was in the days of Noah.
		Okay, so in the days of Noah you've got these fallen angels coming down and mating with human beings, creating these giant offspring.
		I think that's what the extraterrestrial stuff is going to lead into.
		And this ties into Donnie's thesis of this awakened age of enlightenment.
		I'm staking my flag right now.
		I think humanity is on the verge of having some sort of massive disclosure event with extraterrestrials.
		I believe it's been planned in advance.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was an article that came out You see, look, we got this story here from NBC chasing it to me.
		Former Israeli space security chief says extraterrestrials exist and Trump knows about it.
		A galactic federation has been waiting for humans to, quote, reach a stage where we will understand what space and spaceships are, Haim Eshed said.
		Now, you see, I was talking to Joe Rogan.
		And I said, the reason we gotta have a one world government is because Earth can't be admitted into the galactic federation so long as there's multiple governing bodies fighting over who's in charge.
		Because you gotta imagine from the perspective of the Galactic Federation, they're like, dude, if we were to induct you, who would represent you?
		You guys would be fighting each other, so you figure it out and then come back.
unidentified		Just gotta have a one world government.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And Joe said to me, I don't think there's a Galactic Federation.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		To which I responded, Joe, I'm joking.
unidentified		I don't either!
		This is what's interesting, man.
		If you look into the UFO community and the UFO lore, this concept of the Galactic Federation is extremely well known in the UFO community.
		You remember when Kanye got banned on Twitter for that symbol that he posted?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's, uh, Raelism.
unidentified		Yeah, the Raelian religion, UFO cult, or whatever, that's like the symbol of the leaders of this galactic federation of extraterrestrials.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And he posted it to prove a point.
		Yes.
		It appears to be a Star of David with a swastika in the center of it.
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And the point is, it's a symbol used by this religious group, or, you know, whatever, they believe in aliens, and I think the point they were trying to make is that if anything even looks like it's offensive, they'll ban you, and they did.
unidentified		Right, right.
		But so this Galactic Federation, it's super well known in the UFO community.
		And basically the concept for anybody who's unfamiliar is that there's good aliens and there's bad aliens.
		And the good aliens, this is the Galactic Federation.
		It's led by like the Nordic Pleiadian aliens.
		And they like go throughout the universe in these galaxies to protect fledgling species that are on the verge of like ascending.
		And they protect them from like the bad Draco reptilians, right?
		And the way the UFO lore goes, this group, the Galactic Federation, will never reveal themselves to a species unless that species is ready and they want- We gotta reach at least warp one.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Once we discover warp is when first contact can be made.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That's how Star Trek works.
unidentified		Okay.
		I was like, what is this?
		Yeah.
		So, so, okay.
		So you've got this quote unquote good group of aliens.
		And when you look into the UFO community, people like there's like psychics and mediums that like commune with these Pleiadian beings.
		And basically the Pleiadians say, Hey, humanity is on the verge of like a great leap in consciousness into a golden age era, right?
		And these aliens are here to facilitate it, but in order to not violate free will, they won't make contact with humanity until humanity is ready to make contact with them.
		The fact that, if you could pull that article back up, the fact that So this guy, Haim Ashed, in this article, former Israeli space security chief, says that Trump and Netanyahu know about aliens.
		This guy, Haim Ashed, he was in Israel's space program for 30 years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This isn't just some- Well, there's also the Canadian guy, remember that?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Canadian defense minister came out and said, aliens are real, we work with them, it's a fact.
unidentified		So there you go.
		And these aren't crazy kooky guys.
		These are dudes that have worked in this industry for decades, okay?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		But Trump wouldn't keep his mouth shut.
unidentified		I don't know, man.
		They're aliens!
		I mean, dude, he probably knows... Talk to me!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People would be like, get him out, he's crazy.
unidentified		I think Trump probably knows about so many things that he's not telling humanity about.
		Well, yeah, specifically, you know, I don't know if you know this, Tim, I'm sure you do though, but when Tesla died, Nikola Tesla obviously created AC Power.
		Yeah, it was Trump's uncle, John Trump.
		John Trump of MIT.
		Professor John Trump got all of the, the FBI gave all the papers to him first, so.
		Yeah, there's a lot of interesting things with Trump in terms of... Trump did say that his uncle shared a lot of the secrets with him.
		He said that he learned a lot from his uncle.
		Really?
		Yeah, he did imply that his uncle would share a lot of the knowledge with him.
		That's very interesting.
		Tim, are you aware of what Werner von Braun wrote about Mars colonization?
		The Mars Project he wrote in 1948.
		Tell him about this, bro.
		So, Werner von Braun, obviously, Operation Paperclip transplant, so he's a Nazi scientist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He made the V2, right?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And then we stole him from Germany as part of Operation Paperclip.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He has that amazing quote where he said, the rocket performed perfectly, it just landed on the wrong planet.
		Because he was actually researching rocketry for space travel, not for weaponry.
		But of course, Hitler was like, you can kill people with that, and he was like, okay, guys.
unidentified		Yeah, so check this out.
		Chief architect of the Saturn V rocket that the Apollo missions used.
		And, you know, he's given the title the father of rocketry or whatever.
		But he, in 1948, after he had already come to America in Operation Paperclip, he wrote a book called The Mars Project, which is about a human colony on Mars.
		And in this book he talks, he basically describes, in the chapter that's titled How Mars is Governed, He specifically says he describes a type of technocracy which is basically ruled by the experts as opposed to a pure democracy.
		And he also says that the title given to the leader of the human Mars colony will be Elon.
		That's the title.
		It's not the name.
		When was this written?
		1948.
		Say it one more time?
		1948.
		The Mars Project.
		Werner Von Braun wrote in a book that the leader of the Mars technocracy would be a man titled Elon.
		Think about that.
		How many decades before Elon was born was this written?
		Three, yeah.
		A little less than three.
		How weird is that?
		And what's even weirder is how does that title end up being the name of the guy who leads, not only the main guy pushing for human civilization on Mars, but effectively he now has a very similar role that Wernher von Braun had.
		Because what people don't realize is Wernher von Braun actually was huge in not just the actual program, but in propagating the ideas to the American people of what space travel would look like.
		Because Walt Disney World was being built at the same time very close to the Kennedy Space Center in Cape Canaveral, they were collaborating.
		Specifically, I think it's Man in Space is the title of a project they worked on together, which they basically got Americans comfortable with this idea of space travel.
		Now we have Elon Musk is effectively the face of NASA and running Well, it could be.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So I pulled this up from yellowhammernews.com.
		I don't know what this website is, but it is... I believe it's NewsGuard certified.
		But they say it was...
		There'll be two Houses of Parliament.
		What does it say?
		Let me just read.
		Chapter 24, How Mars is Governed.
		One passage of the book, it states, the Martian government is directed by ten men, the leader of whom is elected by universal suffrage for five years under the title of Elon.
		Two Houses of Parliament enacted the laws that had to be administered by Elon and his cabinet.
		The upper house was called the Council of Elders, 60 people who were named to those positions for life by Elon.
		They say 70 years later, Elon Musk, 50, is capturing a lot of interest and blah, blah, blah.
		You know what's interesting is how I imagine this actually plays out.
		Is not that Elon Musk is the ruler of Mars, but Elon Musk launches what is effectively the Mars Colonization Project, which he is working on right now and says by 2033 he wants us to be there.
unidentified		Wow.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And what would be likely is that Elon Musk, organizing this through private corporations, so he's in charge, sends people there.
		After Elon dies, someone goes, well, who's gonna, who's gonna take over?
		I mean, who's effectively gonna be our next Elon Musk?
		And someone says like, I think John will be a good Elon.
		And they'll be like, he's kind of like that guy.
		And I'll be like, alright, you're our Elon.
		And then that's how the name becomes the noun, becomes the title.
		Not that we bestow the honor of the name Elon to you.
		They're saying it figuratively.
		You know, like, well, who's gonna be our next Mike?
		You know, Mike quit.
		It's like, Bill's pretty good.
		He can do what Mike does.
unidentified		Could also be an AI transhumanist resurrection of Elon Musk.
		Could also, in that benevolent AI situation.
		There's one thing I'd like to add.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Real quick though, just on this.
		I imagine a scenario where May Musk is like reading all this stuff.
		And then she's having a kid.
		She names him Elon.
		And then his whole life as a child, she's like, you must, you must colonize Mars.
		That makes more sense than Wernher von Braun's psychic.
unidentified		Well, now I want to, I want to give some solid connections here to, um, to the Musk family.
		So what's interesting about Elon Musk is that, you know, everyone knows of him as being from South Africa, you know, our, our, our richest African American in the U.S.
		But what people don't know is kind of why his family moved to South Africa.
		Originally, his grandfather, Joshua Haldeman, he actually ran the Technocracy Party in Canada, and he was actually arrested by the Canadian government during World War II because they saw the Technocracy Party as a threat to the stability of the government.
		So he wasn't necessarily kicked out of Canada for that, but I mean, once the government arrests you for, you know, essentially being a threat to them, it's probably not a good idea to stick around too much longer.
		But the idea that, you know, he was, you know, technocracy, the world used to be much smaller, with much, with fewer, you know, there's fewer people around, especially in areas of power, starting these, you know, international movements of technocracy.
		That it's, you know, it's likely that, given that Von Braun was writing a book about a Martian technocracy, that he may have at least been familiar, or, you know, Elon's family might have been familiar with it.
		And then, the idea that Musk doesn't want to, isn't in favor of technocracy is pretty irrelevant, because he literally has tweeted, should we make the Martian technocracy a reality?
		So he actually says, like, very specifically, he wants to follow the exact thing laid out in the Mars Project.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What if, like, reality is more like a TV show about Donald Trump, and we are just, like, ancillary side characters?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So have you guys played Fallout 3?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, in Fallout 3, it's, uh, or the Fallout series, but Fallout 3 in particular, the world's ended, nuclear annihilation, you're in post-apocalyptia, the wasteland, and when you leave your vault, where a bunch of people live underground, you find that there are still people who have survived and are living, and you can turn on the radio and listen to, I think, Three Dog, right?
		Uh, radio?
		And, uh, that's how I imagine this.
		It's like, there's a main character running around and we're just the radio station playing in the background for those who are playing the video game or watching the TV show.
		So, like, none of this, we're just side characters, none of this really matters.
		Donald Trump is the main character, or at least...
		If it is a video game wherein you customize your own character, it ain't us.
		And Donald Trump is the main story arc character where you play and follow along.
unidentified		That's what the elites want you to think.
		The real main character is Jesus Christ.
		Perhaps.
		Tim, have you seen any of the alleged predictive programming surrounding Donald Trump?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, what does that mean?
unidentified		Okay, like for example, there is a TV Western that came out in 1958.
		And there's an episode called The End of the World.
		And in this episode, there is a con man who comes to town and tells everybody that the world is going to end and that the only thing that can save them is him by building a wall.
		And guess what his name is?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump?
unidentified		His name's Trump.
		His name's Trump.
		This came out in 1958.
		And you know, the- - What are the odds of that? - Yeah.
		- You know? - Yeah.
		And you know, there's a character who's like, no, like we gotta stop this guy.
		The townsfolk all believe him.
		He's a con man and everything like that.
		And- - It's actually crazy how much predictive programming there is around Trump and all of this stuff.
		And I will say for anybody watching, Donnie Darkin covers this stuff very extensively on his Twitter account.
		Definitely go check out his Twitter account.
		It's unbelievable how much predictive programming there is.
		Yeah, predictive programming, numerology.
		When it comes to numerology, a lot of people don't really take it very seriously, but we have to remember that they take it very seriously.
		For example, there was a meeting that Trump had with Lev Parnas and some other people.
		And in the meeting, Lev goes over to Trump and he says, you know, the people of Israel, we really respect what you do.
		We looked up the numbers of Messiah equals 424 and your name, Donald John Trump, is the same numbers as Messiah.
		And they're actually right.
		Messiah son of David equals 424 in Jewish Jermatria, as well as Donald John Trump.
		And Trump's, you know, Trump's like, oh, wow, you got any other numbers?
		But he says, he's like, it's that good?
		He's like, it's amazing.
		You have to translate it to Hebrew first.
		Yeah.
		Yeah.
		But you could actually pull up the, if you could pull up the clip, I don't know if you could do that.
		I sent a link.
		But he says, he's like, it's amazing.
		It's like, you're the savior of the whole world.
		You have the number of Messiah.
		It's not like, it's not like good.
		It's like best.
		It's like a miracle.
		And then Trump's like, wow, let Kushner know.
		He'll like that.
		I just want to add in on the numerology topic.
		First of all, shout out GG33.
		It's a numerology group that I'm a part of, and they've kind of been on the forefront of bringing this to the public's consciousness.
		But in terms of Trump, there's so many extremely interesting numerology instances.
		Like, for instance, he was inaugurated when he was exactly 70 years, seven months, and seven days old.
		Think about that for a moment.
		Trump was inaugurated president 70 years, 7 months, and 7 days after he was born.
		He was also born 700 days prior to the founding of Israel.
		The temple coin, tell them about the 70 years on the temple coin.
		Yeah, so if you actually look on the coin, it says to fulfill 70 years.
		And when Trump moved the embassy to Jerusalem, he did that coinciding with the exact day of 70 years that Israel was founded.
		He was also born exactly 700 days Before the founding of Israel and the Jews and a lot of the rabbis in Israel believe that this is all very prophetic which is why it's inscribed on the coin here and you know as we know seven is the number of completion and They really they really take the numbers and the numerology surrounding all these things very very seriously You know another one I find really interesting is his grandmother.
		Her name was Elizabeth Christ Trump, and she died on June 6th, 1966, which is 6-6-66.
		Yeah, yeah, Elizabeth Christ Trump.
		She's the matriarch of the Trump family.
		He also says that he lives on the 66th floor of what, Trump Tower?
		Yeah, Trump Tower.
		How many floors does it actually have?
		It actually has 58 floors, but he tells people that he lives on the 66th floor, and you can look this up.
		Which is, like, very strange.
		Yeah, and also his penthouse was used in- Yeah, I did the Gematria calculator.
		Yeah, 424.
		And you know, Trump was the first- This is true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Donald Trump translates the Messiah Son of David.
unidentified		Yeah, and what's interesting about that, the very next day, it gets even crazier.
		So the very next day after Lev Parnas says this to him, Trump became the first sitting U.S.
		president to visit the Western Wall.
		But here's the deal.
		Check this out.
		Here's the deal.
		The moment, and you can watch the clip, the moment his hand touches the wall, the time goes from 4.23 To 424, the exact moment it touches the wall, the day after this was said to him.
		And of course the wall is the last standing wall of the Second Temple.
		Yeah.
		So, okay.
		So check this out.
		Check this out.
		Which was destroyed in 70 AD.
		So one of the other reasons why this is very significant is because in, so we've already covered the fact that Jews are still waiting for their Messiah.
		And when you look at the prophecies of the Messiah, one of the preconditions for the Jewish Messiah, which Jesus Christ met, is that he has to be a descendant of Jesse and David.
		Okay.
		So you've got all this symbolism around.
		What did it translate to a second ago that you pulled up?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Messiah, son of David, calculates in Gematria the same as Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not Donald John Trump, Donald Trump.
unidentified		In addition to looking out for the creation of the third temple of Israel, what we also have to look out for is whether or not genealogists trace Trump's genealogy back to King David.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		What you're saying is not the Antichrist, you're saying that he's the Messiah.
unidentified		Well, let me make my point because this is really important for people to understand.
		My personal position on the Antichrist and the Jewish Messiah that Jews are still waiting for because they've rejected Jesus, I believe that the man who Jews look to as their Messiah, if he rises in our lifetimes, I believe that will be the Antichrist.
		And what's interesting about Trump, What was Trump's involvement with the Noahide laws?
		Oh yeah, he's referred to in a lot of Israeli sources as the champion of the Noahide laws.
		And as well, him and all the presidents, like a couple presidents before him, would continue putting the Noahide laws into... So here's the clip.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		CNN, 4.23pm, Jerusalem at the Western Wall, and Trump's hand is about to touch the wall, and... 4.24.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Trump puts his hand on the Western Wall.
unidentified		Yeah.
		That's, dude, that's either an insane coincidence or it was coordinated or whatever.
		Now, it's really important though that people have some context about the relationship between the Jewish Messiah and the Antichrist.
		See, like I said earlier, the Jews, they rejected Jesus because they're looking for a political leader.
		They're looking for a king.
		Right?
		So in John chapter 5 verse 43 Jesus is talking to the Pharisees and he says, And what he's alluding to is that later on that the Jews will actually accept the false Messiah.
		And that's what the Antichrist is.
		"him ye shall receive." And what he's alluding to is that later on, that the Jews will actually accept the false messiah.
		And that's what the Antichrist is.
		He's a false counterfeit Christ with a false counterfeit kingdom.
		And what we see happening now is the Jews are looking for this Messiah.
		They're looking for this political leader to step up and fulfill these prophecies that Jesus has not yet fulfilled about a millennial kingdom.
		And there is so much that ties into this.
		I think it's beyond fascinating.
		What's interesting about that too, so I have a friend who's an Israeli, Tim, and there's actually a ton of people in Israel who believe Trump is either the Jewish Messiah or the Antichrist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		One or the other, huh?
unidentified		Yeah, there's secular Jews even who believe that he may be the Antichrist.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So let's, we're getting close to the end here, but I guess the final thought's like, what is the Antichrist?
		He's a bad dude.
		He does bad things or what?
unidentified		So the Antichrist is going to appear to be the savior of the world, and this is what will cause people to worship him.
		Deus ex machina.
		Yes.
		So he's going to appear to be the savior of the world.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And then destroy the world or what?
unidentified		No, it says he's going to reign for seven years.
		He's going to bring peace to the world.
		It says that he's going to re- So he's going to win?
		For a period of seven years.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		So he already was for four.
		He has to win again in 2024.
unidentified		He has to have a second coming, like Jesus.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		He has to have a second term.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I mean, look, if there's, I'll just, I'll stake another position.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, wait.
		He only reigns for seven years and then he's gone?
		Is that it?
unidentified		So the way it goes, he rises, he reigns for seven years.
		And then in Revelation chapter 19, it says that Jesus Christ returns from the heavens and he destroys the Antichrist and his armies.
		So he's going to appear to have won.
		And then after seven years, Jesus Christ returns.
		Okay, so I'll just say this, if they trace Trump's genealogy back to King David, if there is, God forbid, an assassination attempt on Trump's life and then he appears to resurrect from the dead, and if his arm and his eye gets wounded, if that happens, People are gonna lose their minds.
		And it's already being predictively programmed right now.
		You know, you have all these articles coming out and people, so many people are talking about an attempt on Trump's life.
		It's already being seen right now.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Tim, are you familiar?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		In 2015, a guy tried grabbing a gun from a cop at a Trump event and they tackled him and arrested him.
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Tim, are you familiar with the Illuminati playing card decks?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified		Look up the Enough is Enough card.
		Look up Enough is Enough, Illuminati playing card.
		How much time do we have, by the way?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like 10 minutes.
unidentified		Okay.
unidentified		And if you look at the image, it looks just like Trump, and on it, it's talking about an assassination.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Here's a good clear one.
		Oh, look at this.
		Enough is Enough.
		It does kind of look like Trump.
		It says, at any time or any place our snipers can drop you, have a nice day.
		Play this card in your own turn.
		Before drawing any plots, you may remove all zap paralysis or attribute freeze cards that are affecting you, your power structure.
		However, preoccupied with your house cleaning, you may draw no plots this turn.
		Draw no plot cards this turn.
unidentified		Enough is enough was just trending on Twitter.
		And, uh, you know, uh, there's a lot that- I have a clip available on my Twitter page.
		And, uh, so much talking about enough is enough in regards to Trump.
		And, uh, I think- I think this could be some sort of, uh, foreshadowing of a future, uh, assassination attempt on Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yo, this one is crazy.
unidentified		Oh, yeah, dude.
unidentified		Yeah, they have one- they have one for the Pentagon, too.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the- the Illuminati card game in 1995 had the World Trade Center's being bombed.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Mm-hmm.
unidentified		Same- same- yeah, same thing with the Pentagon.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Pentagon one?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I think we have this game downstairs.
		Oh, yeah.
		Yeah, it's a bit different, though, but, you know, it's basically there.
unidentified		Yeah, but a long story short with Donald Trump.
		I mean there is like quite literally mountains of Predictive programming weird strange coincidences that I've documented on my Twitter page Obviously we can we can only scratch the surface right now But I mean if you really go down that rabbit hole I mean it gets to a certain point where you're just like how is this even mathematically possible that all of these coincidences are Are stacked on top of each other right now.
		So I got one man.
		I want to I want to just clarify something and add in my perspective, which is that exact question.
		You know, how do these things happen?
		How does the clock turn to 424?
		There was Tim.
		I'm sure you're familiar with like the meme magic stuff with Keck.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I was going to bring up the meme magic video.
		Everyone really should watch the it's like it was like a 10 minute documentary mini doc.
		Someone made on YouTube about me magic about all these weird things that happen with people posting stuff on the Internet that lead to the election of Donald Trump.
unidentified		And the main one being, basically, on Fortran, you try and make a post, and then if there's repeating numbers at the end, you call it a dub, and it's like random.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Well, dubs, two, trips, quads, etc.
unidentified		Exactly.
		So, somebody made a post, Donald Trump will win.
		All sevens.
		All sevens, yep.
		Which is, of course...
		Exactly tied with all the temple stuff all the you know Trump being elected You know so that's that's crazy stuff And it's so it's and the Keck the frog God or whatever that people talk about was in Egyptian chaos God so - So, I mean, look, here's the thing.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		I've seen this post before, we can pull it up, and I don't know, I don't know if it's real.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So you can see here, these are the identifiers and people 77764, 7772, and then someone tagged every other post and they got 77777777, Trump will win.
unidentified		But it could be fake.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Somebody could have just made this on a paintbrush.
unidentified		This concept of chaos magic, though, is actually tied back to what I was talking about earlier with Jekyll Island.
		While the Indian mound stuff is debatable, what was in that mound.
		Could be a garbage mound that they decided to still name the house after.
		But I personally don't think so, but what is undisputable about those Native Americans on that island is that they worshipped an owl chaos god.
		You can look up these pillars, these owl statues, these idols that they were worshipping and it was essentially they worshipped this chaos god and they believed that random events Finding significance in random events is communicating to this God.
		And what's interesting is people, when they talk about Bohemian Grove, which I'm sure you're familiar with Tim, obviously Alex Jones was the guy who first gave us the video of them doing the cremation of care ceremony.
		In front of Moloch.
		Well, what people say is they say it's Moloch, but actually It's an owl, and Moloch isn't really ever, um, isn't ever depicted as a, as an owl, but this owl chaos god, which all these same elites were hanging out on this island previously, this chaos god, that is, that is more accurate of a depiction of what that is.
		So they're putting all this energy into...
		Chaos, and then order comes out of chaos.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you guys something that's truly crazy.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You guys know who Khek is?
unidentified		Yeah.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Khek is an Egyptian god.
		I have it pulled up.
		Let's pull it up right here.
		Khek mythology.
		Khek is the deification of the concept of primordial darkness in the ancient Egyptian Ogdod Cosmogony?
		Cosmogony of Hermopolis, whatever.
		Kek is a god!
		Why did people start saying Kek over and over and over again on the internet for a period of, like, ten years?
		In World of Warcraft, there are two factions, the Horde and the Alliance.
		When you play as the Alliance, you speak Common.
		When you play as the Horde, you speak Orcish.
		But you can also choose to speak other languages, too.
		When a member of the Alliance, you are fighting in PvP servers, in player versus player servers, you are at odds with the Horde.
		So, you are enemies.
		If you encounter a person of the opposing faction, and they type anything onto their keyboard to make their character speak, gibberish emerges.
		Orcish.
		So, you and your friend are playing World of Warcraft, you're playing a night elf, he's playing a human.
		You type in, hello friend, how are you?
		They see that word appear.
		A friend of yours is playing as an orc, you're opposing factions, you type, how are you doing?
		He sees, globdo, blah blah blah.
		However, if someone types in LOL for Laugh Out Loud, the program would translate it to Keck.
		Young people started using Keck instead of LOL as a meme version of saying Laugh Out Loud.
		In the video game Life is Strange, the first one, you play as, like, it's a young girl in college who has the ability to rewind time.
		Notably, she's got like a sidekick, remember the old smartphones?
		And in one of the text communications, the guy she's texting with, totally apolitical, not right-wing, not left-wing, none of that garbage, it's just young people talking, and this was used as a basic video game, hey look, it's college kids.
		She says something and he responds, kek.
		Outside of the game of Warcraft, the meme is acknowledged in other forms of media that CAC just meant LOL, meant laugh out loud.
		It was a different way of saying it because of World of Warcraft.
		So everyone starts going on 4chan and posting CAC.
		Ha ha ha ha.
		They start posting Pepe memes.
		Then people are like, you guys realize Kek is a god of chaos and darkness, and you are all saying it over and over and over again.
		And the funny thing is, and there's also the meme magic of, what's the song?
unidentified		Chatelet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Chatelet, by Pepe or whatever?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Dude.
unidentified		Yup, it's like an Italian music disc.
unidentified		I actually met the guy who wrote the book Meme Magic recently, very cool guy, and we were discussing this chaos magic stuff.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The green frog, look at this.
		The Green Frog Magic Sound Chatelet by Pepe.
		Dude, okay, Pepe the Frog was a meme.
		And it was a stupid webcomic.
		And people started sharing images of various Pepe the Frogs in various forms to make jokes.
		Even celebrities had posted it.
		And then someone's like, oh, there's a song called Chatelet by Pepe and it's a green frog.
unidentified		I believe it was written way before Pepe became popular.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh, this is the 70s or something, isn't it?
unidentified		Well, you know what's crazy?
		In the Bible it says, and I saw three unclean spirits exit the mouth like frogs.
		Yeah, in Revelation, right?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		How about the Ingersoll Lockwood books?
unidentified		Yeah, that's a bet.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		I still don't believe it's real.
		I can't, I just, I can't ever believe it's real, no matter what people say.
		And I was talking to someone just like two weeks ago, and we mentioned the Someone was talking about something related to Trump, and I said something about the Ingersoll Lockwood books that it's been foretold, and they laughed.
		And I said, no, the books are real.
		And they're like, yeah, yeah.
		And I'm like, no, the books are real.
		And then they were like, what's the joke?
		And I'm like, Google right now on your phone, Ingersoll Lockwood, Barron Trump, and read it.
		And they looked up and they're like, what?
unidentified		And you wrote the book, The Last President.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Last President, written in the 1800s, about a guy named Barron Trump, who lives on Fifth Avenue.
unidentified		And Don, and Don in the book, there's a character named Don, who's called the Master of Masters, and he's the one who guides Barron.
		So here's the other thing, though.
		We've been talking about how both Elon and Trump, how their names are both titles, and then how, you know, Elon could, the title is just Elon, the ruler of the Mars colony or whatever.
		In the same way, in these Ingersoll Lockwood books, the Don character, his name isn't Don, he's just a Don.
		And the Barron Trump character, he's not, his name isn't first name Barron, last name Trump, he is the Barron Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So they're, you know, in this idea of them playing roles is... The books remained obscure until 2017 when they received media attention for perceived similarities between the protagonist and President Donald Trump.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The character's name is Barron Trump!
unidentified		And this plays into the Trump time travel idea, which goes back to the fact that if anybody had- Now we're getting there!
		Yeah, if anybody had time travel, it would be Nikola Tesla, who all of the research went to, Trump's uncle.
		And then you look at all the most powerful predictive programming in our culture about time travel, there's always, it's either Rick and Morty or Back to the Future, where there's a crazy old professor uncle and the young son who do the, or nephew or whatever, that end up doing the time traveling.
		What's interesting is there's actually a character in Back to the Future 2 that is explicitly based off of Donald Trump, Biff, who finds, who time travels, gets the sports almanac, uses it to sports bet, makes himself rich, and then essentially makes himself into the exact same character as Trump.
		And you think about, if you had time travel, what would you do?
		Oh, you'd be all over the media, you'd be famous, rich, you know, become president, per se.
		And so there's, yeah, there's a lot of predictive programming there.
		And so to go back to the chaos magic aspect real quick, the one person, the one author, you know, you're saying, oh, well, you know, these authors might not even know about this, which is true.
		They might not understand exactly what's going on.
		But one author who is actually a outward occultist who admits it, is the comic book writer Alan Moore who wrote Watchmen and most importantly V for Vendetta.
		What's the what's the plot of V for Vendetta?
		It's a it's a story about a authoritarian government that creates a bioweapon pandemic and there is a rebellion that is led by an anonymous figure that goes by a single letter Q oh I'm sorry I meant to it's V it's V for Vendetta and in the end he leads a march on the capital.
		So, Alan Moore, though, he specifically says, yes, I'm an occultist and all art is chaos magic because it affects the mass subconsciousness of humanity.
		The stories that we tell the civilization end up manifesting in this, you know, in this ethereal way, which this concept is being explored as quantum physics advances.
		We start to understand how.
		Have you heard of the two slit experiment, Tim?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The double-slit experiment.
unidentified		Yeah, the double-slit experiment where the way that the protons act depends on if you're viewing it on the other side.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Electrons.
		And this is grossly misinterpreted.
		There are other scientific experiments which I think are better examples of the strange phenomena in the quantum world and how it translates to the... What do we live on?
		We live on the nanoscale?
		I don't know.
		The scale, the macro, whatever.
		Uh, so the problem with the double slit experiment is basically, here's how I explain it to people.
		Hippies hear the story of, they took a sheet of metal and they fired electrons through a slit.
		And it created a particle pattern, as if you were firing, say, you know, paintballs.
		The other side of the wall The sheet of metal blocks all electrons except for that single slit.
		So behind it, imagine you were firing paint, the back wall has a single strip of paint.
		They then did two slits in the sheet of metal, expecting to see two stripes of paint.
		Instead, they got what's called a wave pattern of multiple lines, which would indicate that the electron was acting as a wave, like a wave in water, as opposed to a particle, like a paintball or a marble.
		Hippies took this to mean that the act of observation changes the way in which reality forms.
		Basically what happens is, they fire electrons through two slits, and when they don't measure which slit the electron goes through, they get a wave pattern.
		And they're like, well how is that possible?
		It's like waves of water emitting through these slits.
		When they decided to watch how it was happening, they got a particle pattern.
		Hippies then said, see, as soon as we observed the act, it changed the function of the electron from an infinite possibility into a- Collapsed it from a wave into a single point.
unidentified		Right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Wave function collapse.
unidentified		Why is that wrong?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It's because, here's the way I describe it to people.
		Imagine there is an ant walking on this table right now.
		And we're like, the ant is walking in a straight line.
		Why is it doing it?
		I wonder how far it's walking.
		So you take a ruler, slam it on the table to measure the distance of the ant, the ant turns right.
		The ant turns right when we watch it.
		By watching the ant, it changes direction.
		No.
		Whatever we did, because the idea of observing is a ridiculously simplistic way of explaining how we try to measure electrons, the actions we take to measure electron behavior interferes with wave function, causing collapse.
unidentified		But isn't that, couldn't you see a situation where that's equivalent to us observing reality?
unidentified		No.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The implication is that by simply staring my eyeballs at an ant, I can make the ant move left or right.
		As opposed to, if you put a ruler on the table, well the ant is going to run away from it.
		The act of observation, it's not observation, it's my physical actions to measure the action of the ant causes the ant to change its behavior.
unidentified		But they didn't put anything to obstruct the particles though?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		They had to use special mechanisms to monitor which electron was going through which slit, which interferes in wave function and then causes a differing outcome.
		So, what they're claiming is, by observing what happened, it changed.
		No, no, that's not what happened.
		Human measuring tools changed wave function.
unidentified		So observing things, aren't we measuring them with our eyes though?
		Is there some type of interaction with our eyes and light?
		Is it light reflecting off of things and going into our eyes?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is like saying that putting a lightning rod in the backyard, like we want to measure lightning.
		Hey, I put a lightning rod in my yard and it got struck by lightning.
		Well, yes, you put something there which interacts with lightning and triggers, it creates a likely point of a lightning strike.
		That does not mean you observed by staring at it lightning hit.
		The argument is they're claiming that I looked at my lawn and it made lightning happen.
		When in reality what they're saying is I put a lightning rod in my backyard and it got struck by lightning.
unidentified		So can we, why can't we, our, so our eyes, when we view the, um, if you were to view that, that two slit experiment, What exactly, um, we can't see the, we can't see the protons.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Again, electrons.
		Again, to simplify, if there is an ant walking on the table, and I put a ruler next to it, I'm not just observing it, I'm interfering.
		So, human experimentation, the tools we use interfere with wave function, it's not our observation.
unidentified		Like, I think it depends on how they're measuring the wave function, because if you're placing instruments that are somehow obstructing or altering the flow of the waves or the particles or whatever... And you have to!
		Well, not necessarily.
		I mean, do we know how they were measuring where they were landing?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like, for example... To measure electrons...
		You need some pretty advanced machinery, which can detect waves and energy.
		So, another example would be like, I want to test the temperature of the water, so I put something in the water.
		Well, that's going to obstruct and alter the flow of the water.
		We can't simply say by observing the water, it changed direction.
		I was trying to figure the temperature, so I put my tool in the water.
		No, dude, you're interfering with the water's flow.
unidentified		I guess when I look at your analogy, I think to myself, okay, you're saying that what the scientists are doing in this scenario is they're placing a ruler directly in front of the ant and then they're like, oh, it's going left or right.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not directly in front of it.
		Even next to it will cause the ant to change behavior.
		That's not an act of observation.
		It's an act of interference.
unidentified		I feel like I'm not smart.
unidentified		I feel like I disagree with you, but I'm not smart enough to properly articulate how I disagree.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		People want to believe that human observation and conscious minds change reality.
		That is not proven by the double slit experiment.
		There are better experiments, which I recommend you look into, that we have brought up, which are inexplainable and substantially more complicated than double slit.
unidentified		Like what?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		There was one we tracked, I don't know enough about, I'm not a quantum physicist, where they measure photons.
		And the photons have, like, bending properties which make literally no sense in certain contexts.
		You have to look this up because I don't know enough about it.
		All I do know is, when the movie What the Bleep Do We Know came out, and everyone and their mom was like, wow!
		This coincided with the release of a movie called The Secret.
		Mm-hmm.
		Mm-hmm.
		believe that you could will things or manifest things into existence.
		So what did I do?
		I didn't just blindly say, wow, the act of observation allows us to control reality.
		I said, what does that mean?
		So I got a couple of books on quantum physics, started reading about what this stuff meant.
		And then I went and talked to a physicist and I went, oh, well, that's boring.
		Basically, if you stick a sheet of metal into a stream of water to measure the temperature and direction of the water, you will change the direction of the water and its flow.
		The idea that we're simply looking with our eyeballs at an electron is absolutely not true.
		We're talking about not necessarily a fundamental particle, but damn near a fundamental particle.
		Yet to measure that, we need crazy technology, which interferes with stuff.
		Not to mention electrons and wave function.
		We know for a fact that there's, the charged electromagnetic spectrum is all around us all the time.
		And everything we have is interfering with it in some way.
		That's quite literally how wireless technology works.
		The waves are like when you use your cell phone, this is the crazy thing people need to realize about cell phones.
		When you ask a cell phone, say you want to pull up a porn website, guess what?
		That data was broadcast in every possible direction.
		Even as far down into the earth as it could go.
		It's not like your phone has a tether to the tower and the information only goes back and forth.
		Nah, when you type in your cell phone, I want to look something up, the tower broadcasts that in all possible directions.
		So the government has planes that fly over and absorb all of the cellular data coming from the towers and then knows everything every device is doing.
		So, anyway, simple version.
		If that's the case, the plane interferes with the radio, with the waves coming off the cellular tower.
		You want to measure single electrons, and you're going to put instruments?
		That's going to create an interference in some way.
unidentified		So do you believe in the meme magic or not?
unidentified		You think it's affecting the collective consciousness?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Meme magic may be something more like...
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Collective conscious exists, not that we control the flow of reality by observing it, but that we are all connected to the universe in some way, more so than we realize.
unidentified		Well, we were talking earlier about how worshipping things isn't necessarily actively interacting with it or praising it, but just observing it and having cats attract our attention is in a way, is in a way worshipping it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		No, I just mean like, If aliens came to earth and looked at the database on the internet, they'd be like, these people must really love cats and dogs.
		But we do!
		We don't think they're gods or anything like that.
		But we look at ancient Egypt and we see how they have cats everywhere and we're like, they worshipped cats.
		And it's like, no, cats are just funny.
unidentified		You know what I mean?
		There's definitely, with the collective consciousness thing and like the...
		Power of observation affecting our reality.
		I think I personally believe that there's definitely something going on and I'll give two personal examples.
		I think everybody or most people probably know like you've probably experienced what it's like when you know somebody's looking at you and you don't know how somebody's looking at you and then you look over at them and you realize they were looking at you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Or one of the most common phenomenons that humans experience is I felt like I was being watched.
unidentified		Yep, there's that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And everybody knows that's true.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		That I felt like I was being watched and an animal was stalking you.
unidentified		Right.
unidentified		Dude, exactly.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		And it may be something we don't understand.
		It could be something much more simpler than we want it to be.
		It may not be magic or spirit or energy.
		It could literally be some physical reaction resulting from the movements around you or whatever.
		But knowing that we're being watched allowed us to survive.
		And sometimes you're wrong.
		You're not being watched.
		Maybe you are.
		I was reading Ask Reddit and it was like, what's a crazy story?
		The question was, what's a crazy story you have photo evidence of?
		And there were like three.
		One said, I was walking home late at night and I felt like I was being watched.
		And I kept getting this strange feeling.
		And so I looked up into a tree and there was a black bear.
		And they posted a photo of a black bear in a tree.
		And they were like, holy crap.
		Like how did they know?
unidentified		Perfect example.
		Another interesting one too, that I've experienced many times in my life.
		I'm curious if you guys have ever experienced this, when you're thinking about somebody and then all of a sudden you get a text or a call from them.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		More than that, how many times, this happened a lot more before cell phones, but in my life I'd say maybe five times as a kid, I've gone to my phone, I picked up my phone to call my friend and there's no dial tone.
		And I'm waiting for a dial tone and I'm like, what's going on?
		And then all of a sudden I hear a, hello?
		And it's my friend.
		Whoa.
		I picked my phone up the exact moment he called me.
		The phone didn't ring.
		I grabbed it and there's no dial tone.
		Hello?
		And it's my friend talking to me.
		And that happened several times in my life.
unidentified		So I think to go back to what we were discussing is whether or not the slit experiment properly explains the phenomena.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Oh wait, sorry, real quick.
		One thing that happens today.
		How many times have you called your friend and it goes to voicemail?
		Because they called you at the exact same time.
unidentified		Oh yeah, all the time.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		It happens a lot?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		I think somebody just last night, I hit them up and they're like, oh my god, I was just thinking about you.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Not just, that's like...
		I mean, this happened to me, I think, like, a month ago.
		I got my phone, I press go, and it goes, the voice number you have reached is currently- I'm like, okay, I hang up, and then I call back and it rings, and they're like, I was just trying to call you, I got your voicemail.
		We both called at the same time, so we both hit each other's voicemail.
unidentified		So I so that the phenomena that we're talking about here I think is if if the slit experiment doesn't properly explain it then fair enough but I think in my personal belief in how I explain these things is that there is something attuned to what Nikola Tesla was talking about where there's a
		Omnipresent, all-knowing, Akashic Records type of field that he called the Ether, where he even described that all of his ideas were gathered from this Ether and his inventions were formed completely in his mind and he only wrote out the He only wrote up the schematics to have his engineers build it.
		I think there's some fifth dimensional phenomena like that going on.
		That is, when you influence people's minds through media or art, and it's not necessarily them supporting it or actively interacting with it in any way, just the fact that they observed Those things, like for instance, I mean, predictive programming itself, the reason it's called predictive programming is you give them a program, a TV program, to make them act predictably.
		So for instance, there was Contagion, the movie that was released in 2011, star-studded, Matt Damon.
		It was basically about, I'm sure a lot of people watched it during the pandemic.
		It was about a pandemic situation and they had everything, lockdowns, vaccines, vaccine passports.
		He actually had a wristband, Matt Damon did.
		But what came out later through a Freedom of Information Act request was the fact that the CDC actually had a huge involvement in making that movie, spending a million or so dollars on a separate little entity to influence the movie.
		And they actually used that movie in Congress purposely on the 10th year anniversary of 2001 anthrax attacks to get more funding for the CDC.
		So the CDC used this programming to influence the population in order to get more funding, which allowed them to have enough control to basically dominate our entire civilization during the later pandemic, which of course was likely coming from a Wuhan lab.
		Now the FBI does acknowledge that that's the most likely situation and both the virus through the NIH funding of bat coronavirus research and the mRNA technology of the vaccine was actually developed by the NIH with public funding and then Moderna and Pfizer just simply use that and the NIH is actually suing Moderna to get more of the revenue from that.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So, uh, the delayed choice quantum eraser, look that one up.
unidentified		Okay.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		This is a better example of what people, people are trying to talk about, uh, double slit.
		It's like, there's, we're way past that.
		So, delayed choice, uh, quantum eraser experiment.
		There's multiple variations, uh, and the quantum eraser experiment.
		These are ones where it's like, huh, that's weird.
		You know, double slit can be explained like, look, you're interfering in the process.
		So they modify these experiments in other ways, and it's like, okay, now we can't quite grasp.
		But it could be really simple.
		Look, there's fundamental forces.
		There are forces we probably haven't discovered yet.
		Before the turn of the century, 1900s, nobody knew that the charged electromagnetic spectrum existed.
		And then all of a sudden it was like, actually we can do radio waves and we can make TV and do all this crazy stuff.
unidentified		A lot because of Tesla.
unidentified		Basically all of it.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		So there's, I believe it's in Star Trek universe, they can communicate over thousands of light years through subspace.
		It was a concept created in the show to justify being able to talk in real time to Earth when you're on another planet far away in the galaxy or whatever.
		Still, the show does have subspace limitations, so in the show Voyager, when they get blasted to the other side of the galaxy, they're like, even if we sent a message through subspace, it would still take X amount of time, and they're like at maximum warp at 70 years or something like that to get back to Earth, and, you know, things like that.
		But we've gone a bit over, so we're going to wrap it up now.
		Do you guys want to shout out any final thoughts?
unidentified		Yeah, I do.
		Do you guys want to go first?
		Um, uh, you want to go first?
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Like shout, shout something out or give a final thought and then shout out whatever you want to shout out.
unidentified		Yeah, I guess my final thoughts are just to have discernment, right?
		Because a lot of people think that, a lot of Christians listening, you know, if you think that Satan's endgame is world domination and global control, remember that he's already the lowercase g god of this world.
		His endgame is about spiritual deception and his goal is to bring as many people to hell with him as he possibly can.
		And in order to do that, he needs to infiltrate.
		He needs to imitate.
		He needs to come as an angel of light.
		So, you know, be very cautious and have discernment.
		The Bible warns us not to put our trust in mankind, and the Bible warns us to be patient, enduring until the end, and be long-suffering, just as Christ was for us.
		Drew?
		Awesome, yeah.
		So I guess final thoughts there, you know, these different concepts of Trump and Elon filling these Antichrist-like roles.
		I guess to sum up everything that I was talking about, It's essentially, of course, in Avengers Endgame, which I see as Avengers being the premier predictive programming, which is probably the characters in them are probably more well known to Americans than the characters of the Bible at this point.
		In Avengers Endgame, at the end, you have Iron Man sacrifice himself against the depopulation plot of Thanos.
		in a very Christ-like fashion.
		And in Infinity War, the cover of Infinity War, Iron Man's even got his arms stretched out in a Christ-like statue.
		And then the final thing is the X symbolism, which we kind of talked about a lot, Dos X and every, you know, musk using X so much.
		What's interesting about X, X is of course a type of cross.
		So early Christians, there's some evidence that early Christians actually used an X symbol Which was the last letter of the Paleo-Hebrew alphabet to represent Christ as the Omega, as the full and completion.
		Interesting.
		So, we were talking about how my friends here talk about things in terms of biblical scripture.
		I kind of focus on more astrology and cycles.
		What I see is that we have now, in the Age of Aquarius, the Knowledge Bearer.
		We have, of course, like we're saying, there's a new Antichrist, Messiah, Christ coming.
		And for the Age of Pisces, a Christian symbol is the fish.
		Pisces, of course, is the fish.
		Now we have the Age of Aquarius, you know, there's new symbols for the Christ.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		The Water Bearer.
unidentified		Yeah, Waterbearer or Knowledgebearer, they're called both.
		But yeah, so that's I guess the finale of what I wanted to get across.
		And yeah, I'd say yeah, just use discernment and don't, I think more than anything, the overall goal of my work is to get people to Stop giving their energy to idols.
		I think if we all do that, we could operate a lot easier.
		And just to disconnect from this overall narrative and the script that's being played out in front of us.
		And, you know, focus your energy on yourself.
		Use it for, you know, use it for your own advancement, your family, your life.
		And, you know, don't obsess over it.
		Don't sit at home waiting for the plan to come to fruition.
		Just, you know, make sure to keep your energy internal.
		Legit.
		I'm going to try and condense everything.
		So first off, thank you for having me back.
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
unidentified		This was sick.
		Second of all, shout out to these two guys.
		They post absolutely fascinating stuff on Twitter.
		I've learned a lot from both of them.
		Follow Drew Tang and Donnie Darkened on Twitter.
		Also shout out Elon Musk.
		I want to give a thank you to Elon Musk for everything he's doing with X to enable free speech worldwide.
		It's pretty freaking insane how the global conversation is changing as a result of it.
		You know, there's been, throughout this podcast, there's been a lot of speculation about, like, Antichrist, false prophet, all that kind of stuff.
		I don't know how all of this is going to play out, but I do know that the most important truth that humanity can acknowledge right now is that Jesus Christ is Lord.
		And I think that that is the central question that civilization needs to answer.
		Were the claims of Jesus Christ actually true?
		Is what the Bible tells us actually true?
		These are questions that are worth answering because if the claims of Christ in the Bible are actually true and humanity is proceeding into the end times and the majority of humanity is about to be deceived by the Antichrist, his false prophets, so on and so forth, people need to know.
		They need to know.
		And it's important to keep an eye on the Temple Mount.
		If we see the construction of a third temple, if we see an assassination attempt on a world leader and him miraculously resurrecting from the dead, if we see some sort of mark pushed that people need to buy and sell, all of this is confirmation of biblical prophecy, in my opinion.
		And a lot of people want to answer these questions for themselves.
		I get told by a lot of atheists, wow, you must have to suspend reason and logic in order to believe in your fairy tale book, and that's actually not the case.
		The reality is that there's a tremendous amount of evidence for Christianity and the Bible being true, and I would recommend that anybody curious about it read this book, More Than a Carpenter.
		This is the book that brought me to Jesus.
		I also challenge Elon Musk.
		He's expressed curiosity about Jesus and salvation in Christ.
		I would challenge Elon Musk.
		Read this book, More Than a Carpenter.
		I want to know your thoughts after you read it.
		Was Jesus Christ actually the Messiah?
		The evidence indicates that he was more than a carpenter and not just a wise man.
		So those are my closing thoughts.
		Christ is Lord.
		He's also the answer to everything going wrong in civilization right now.
		And the last last thing I would say Pray for our leaders, you know?
		Pray if Trump is the Antichrist or Elon's the false prophet or whatever.
		Whatever it is, pray for Elon, pray for Trump, pray that they might know Jesus and be saved in him because I would like to see them saved.
		And I don't want the world to end in the next 15 years.
		I want to have some kids, man.
		Let's go!
tim pool ▲ ● ▼		All right, everybody.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		This has been a lot of fun, and I guess we won't know, but I guess we should all keep an eye out to see if Donald Trump ends up losing an eye or an arm or something like that, and then we can be worried.
		But in the meantime, make sure you subscribe to Tenet Media.
		Thanks for hanging out.
		We'll be back later tonight at TimCast IRL.

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