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Dec. 1, 2023 - The Culture War - Tim Pool
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The Culture War #40 - Daily Wire's LadyBallers Star, Comedy With Tyler Fischer & Alex Stein

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tim pool
This has got to be a really wild way to start a Friday morning.
You know, you're getting up, you're going to have a cup of coffee, you've got bags under your eyes, you're ready to go to work, and then you turn on The Culture War and Alex Dine and Tyler Fisher are sitting here and... AHH!
alex stein
GOING INSANE!
BIG BOOTY LATINAS!
unidentified
DAILY WIRE STAR!
tim pool
So, welcome to The Culture War.
We're hanging out with Tyler Fisher.
tyler fischer
What's up?
tim pool
You are one of the stars of the new Daily Wire's comedy, Lady Ballers.
tyler fischer
That's right, yeah.
tim pool
Among other things, you're also- Comes out today, I think.
Yeah, is it up now?
tyler fischer
I think it's sometime today, probably noon or something like that.
Yeah, it'll be live on Daily Wire.
tim pool
And also, there's a new animated project that I think they just announced today.
Is that what happened?
tyler fischer
They announced yesterday, yeah.
Bertram, Adam Carolla, Roseanne Barr, Kyle Dunnigan.
Wow.
A bunch of other... A Patrick Warburton, right?
Yeah.
tim pool
Holy crap, that's amazing!
Yeah, I know.
I heard that, I was like, wow.
tyler fischer
He's Elaine, the guy from Seinfeld.
tim pool
Yeah, Seinfeld, and he's Joe in Family Guy.
unidentified
Right.
tim pool
And he was the tick.
I mean, that dude's got a huge list of stuff.
He's great.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
Well, introduce yourself, I guess, real quick.
tyler fischer
Yeah, my name's Tyler Fisher, I'm a comedian, I'm an actor, and...
Here I am.
tim pool
Well, there you go, and you're in a movie and we got Alex Stein hanging out.
alex stein
Well, I'm the pimp on a blimp, and I didn't want to tell you this, Tim, and I didn't want to tell you this, Tyler, but I'm actually suing the Daily Wire, because if you know, you probably don't know this, Tim, but you know the main character in their movie is named Alex.
Did you know that?
tim pool
Is that true?
alex stein
That is true.
Is that true?
tyler fischer
That is true.
alex stein
That is true, so listen.
tyler fischer
It is true.
alex stein
Tim, who's most famous for being a transgender conservative icon?
Me!
I wear the Tuck Friendly Bathing Suit!
I'm the only guy that's ever tucked it in!
tyler fischer
Wow, I didn't think about it.
alex stein
That's what I'm saying.
I didn't see one Tuck Friendly Bathing Suit in that movie yet.
tim pool
Have you seen the movie?
alex stein
No, but I've seen the trailer.
I'm saying I'm the expert in tucking.
I'm the king of all tucking.
So it's a shot over the bow at me, I think.
tim pool
It is.
It's amazing.
tyler fischer
Riley Gaines is in it, too.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tyler fischer
Prominent role, or is it like a... No, it's just she's swimming against Alex.
alex stein
Against Alex!
Against Alex!
So, that was my role, Tim!
I'm going after Jeremy, I'm going after Tyler, I'm going after Ben Shapiro.
unidentified
Ben Shapiro, if you're watching this... This lawsuit is brought to you by ExpressVPN.
tim pool
Well, so let's get into it.
I guess the general way to start this one off is, you know, we were talking with Jeremy Boring earlier this week about the film.
I guess the trailer went up.
tyler fischer
Is he in it, Jeremy?
tim pool
I think so.
I think he might be the main character.
tyler fischer
Oh, he starred in it, wrote it, and did it.
tim pool
But what was it, the trailer for Lady Ballers went up like Monday or something?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
And so, like, everyone just finds out.
And then, uh, I think a question came up about, you know, a lot of the characters in it are played by Daily Wire talent.
alex stein
Yes.
tim pool
Jeremy said nobody wanted to be in it.
Even, even, right.
He said, he said people they knew who had been cancelled didn't want to be in it.
People who, uh, who agree with their politics didn't want to be in it.
So, really, the only people in it are, like, the bottom of the barrel, the worst.
I'm kidding.
alex stein
No, but Ben's in it.
Ben's the referee, right?
tim pool
No, but he was saying it's really like the people who are in it are the legit core group.
A lot of their talent and plus their friends who really want to do something like this.
tyler fischer
Yeah, their sports, the Crane & Company guys, three guys.
alex stein
Jake and Blaine.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah, and then...
And then me and a couple other people, but yeah, I mean, at this point I'm just collecting the roles that nobody wants to take.
tim pool
There you go!
I mean, it's working out!
tyler fischer
And that happened with Bertram too!
I think they went at- I don't know exactly who the comedian was, but they offered it to a very famous comedian.
And he said no, and then I thought they wrote the role for me.
I was recording, I go, wow, I'm so honored, you know, you took this, you know, you were inspired by, I do this like woke man bun guy, and he goes, I've never heard of you.
The guy that we offered it to said no.
unidentified
Wow.
Yeah.
tim pool
What's the character?
Can you say anything about the Bergem show?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I play a Jedi, like a justice, equity, diversity, inclusion officer.
So it's Adam Kroll's a woodshop teacher and in this woke, you know, new middle school.
And he's just coming up against all these new policies.
And I go around kind of patrolling and making sure every conversation is diverse enough.
And me and Adam are arch enemies in it.
tim pool
Well, so let's talk about The core here with the movie and even with what you're bringing up with this it's You know, is Lady Ballers 2 on the nose, right?
So if you look at Lady Ballers, I think if it were made in the 2000s, it would just be considered normal comedy.
tyler fischer
Normal movie.
tim pool
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Just a night at the theater.
alex stein
Like White Chicks or something?
tim pool
Right, exactly, like White Chicks.
Dodgeball wasn't, you know, even, like dodgeball, it's silly.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
The underlying premise of this being men competing in women's sports turns it into a political statement, which it's like, after what is a woman, it kind of is, right?
alex stein
Well, there's Juana Man, which is already a movie where a guy did that.
tim pool
Yeah, but it's different.
alex stein
Yeah, I know.
tyler fischer
Juana Man is... And Tootsie, um... Did you ever see the trailer for Tootsie?
alex stein
But did they play sports in Tootsie?
tyler fischer
No, no, he just pretends to be a woman to get acting roles.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
So it's, you know, it's something like this has been done before, but not in this realm.
tim pool
Right, like Juana Man, that movie... It was good!
alex stein
That movie was funny!
tim pool
I've never seen it, I'm never going to see it.
I remember, I'm like, when did that movie come out?
Like 2000-something?
alex stein
It's better than Shazam Redemption, dude.
tyler fischer
What's it about?
Do you want to know?
alex stein
I've never seen it.
It's about a guy that pretends to be a girl so he can play.
He's an NBA player.
Oh, I heard of it.
He gets canceled and then he starts playing in the women's team.
tim pool
What does he do?
He like hits somebody or something?
alex stein
I forget why he got in trouble, but he got suspended and then he still wanted to play.
tim pool
Yeah, they're like, you're suspended indefinitely.
And he's like, what do I do?
I know.
And then he puts on a wig and like fake boobs.
And then it's like, the gag is he's crushing the women.
He's dunking and super good.
But the premise there was he's cheating.
Yeah, right.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
- Right. - And I understand that that's a similar premise in a way, but lady ballers, it's the political of, you can be a woman if you want.
- Yeah. - And so with Juana Man, no one knows he's a man.
With lady ballers, they're just a bunch of males being like, we're women now. - And then, right.
tyler fischer
And then seeing the crowd be confused, how do, Are we supposed to support this or not?
Inevitably, the crowd does come out in droves at first.
Nobody's there watching the games.
alex stein
But at the end, they do start to support it.
tyler fischer
Oh, we start filling the stadiums, and we actually filled the stadiums with extras.
Some of them didn't know what the movie was about, and we had a protest.
tim pool
No!
alex stein
What, like the extras protesting?
tyler fischer
Oh yeah, we had someone stand up and protest during the film shoot.
alex stein
They're like, oh, I'm against this!
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
But this was Nashville, right?
And these were like Daily Wire fans coming out, so they just shut.
They were like, fuck you!
alex stein
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
alex stein
Was it like a gender-fluid lesbian or something that yelled?
tyler fischer
I think so, yeah.
And then every day it'd be- That's just a protest scene in your movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But it was so funny because one person was like, this is not okay, and everyone's like, shut the fuck up.
unidentified
Yo, that's amazing.
tyler fischer
And they just dragged them out, and then every day we had protests outside.
alex stein
No!
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
alex stein
Every day of shooting?
tim pool
How did we not know this movie was coming out?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
And then we sent out, uh, uh, Billy Ray played a newscaster.
We sent her out in character to interview these, uh, the protesters.
alex stein
Did that make the movie?
tyler fischer
No, it should've!
alex stein
It should've!
tim pool
Oh, dude, I'm sorry.
I'm trying to hold back so much after hearing that your extras protested you during your movie.
alex stein
And if you've ever been an extra on a movie set, extras, I think, they're just as important as the main actors, you know?
So that kind of makes sense.
tyler fischer
Tough gig, man.
alex stein
But I'm just saying, I can see somebody standing up like, I'm going to be a future actor.
Like, I'm standing up for, you know, trans rights.
tyler fischer
And nobody cares.
tim pool
We're doing a comedy movie, dude.
Calm down.
It was funny because I was just watching It's Always Sunny yesterday, the old season episode where Dee is an extra and she's playing a corpse in a Serbian genocide movie, but she keeps trying to like pose for the camera.
alex stein
And they have the agent.
You know, I was actually, it's funny when you say this, I was in an extra, I was an extra in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia in the episode.
You can see me were Frank's brother, but that is true though.
I was actually in an episode of It's Always And it was an episode of The Office, yeah, both of them.
When I first moved to LA, I was an extra.
I didn't have a job.
I moved to Los Angeles.
tim pool
Featured extra?
alex stein
Well, yeah, in both of them I was a featured extra.
I'm like doing fake cocaine and I'm dancing at this gay bar.
tim pool
And It's Always Sunny?
alex stein
How do I pull that off?
tim pool
What episode is it?
alex stein
That was a Frank's Brothers episode.
And then type in this, you'll see me, I'm in the thumbnail.
You can type, go to The Office and type in Michael Scott's last scene and you'll see me standing next to Michael Scott, but my point is I didn't have a job so I moved to LA and my buddy's like, you should go to Central Casting.
Then I worked as an extra for like four or five months and then I got a job as a production assistant on some Food Network shows and you know, it just kind of... I booked a T.J.R.
Friday's commercial.
tim pool
I gotta go watch that later and we're gonna like sit there and wait and be like, there he is!
tyler fischer
Did you sneak on?
I feel like you snuck on.
alex stein
No, I was on!
No, I was casting.
Well, this is the thing people don't realize too is if you look young, they don't hire, they don't want to have kids on set so it's called AT&T.
if you look younger than 18.
And so I got all these high school rules.
So I didn't even know anybody and all of a sudden, but you made like 100 bucks a day, literally.
And after taxes, it was like 80 something.
So it wasn't very lucrative, but it was cool to go on the set.
And that's where I met people and then I ended up getting jobs later on from. - Right on.
tim pool
And then something happened to your brain and you turned into this. - And then yeah, I just got.
alex stein
I got in a bad car accident, I got amnesia, and now I don't even know who I am.
tim pool
Drink the coffee, that's what it is.
alex stein
That's what it was, that Casper coffee.
tim pool
We're going to be filming a Casper commercial with Alex and Tyler.
alex stein
Extra caffeinated!
We're going to go insane.
tim pool
We're just goofing off.
Let's talk about the movie and stuff.
Hearing that Jeremy was saying nobody wants to be in it, did you have any concerns?
tyler fischer
No.
I don't care.
tim pool
Were you cancelled already or something?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I call it like pre-cancelled.
I was kind of... There was an effort to prevent my career from taking off.
I'll give you a couple examples.
One, I was fired from an acting agent for being white.
unidentified
What?
tyler fischer
They told me in an email.
This is a big agency.
This stuff's been happening for so long.
I would constantly lose commercial campaigns, jobs.
I would get cast and then they'd go, you know what?
The CEO wants a dyslexic, black, trans, ambidextrous woman.
And I was thinking like, this is not okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
But you couldn't talk about it.
I would try to tell someone they go, well, your time is up.
And then, um, so I quit acting for three years.
unidentified
Wow.
tyler fischer
Cause I was brought into these big agencies.
They would see me go, you're going to be on SNL.
You're going to be a star.
And then they go, it's not time for white guys.
I'm sorry.
It's not your time.
tim pool
That happened to me at Vice, actually.
tyler fischer
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, so when I started there, basically my negotiation was, look, I do live coverage, but I don't do documentary stuff.
I need someone to help me with the other side of things.
So if I go out and livestream this big news event, can you send a camera guy to film me doing it?
We can make a mini doc that captures, and then we have the live coverage at the same time.
It's like two birds with one stone.
They said yes.
And then eventually, I do think it's fair to say I had no experience doing doc stuff, and so I'm not gonna pretend like I was the greatest person for the job.
But that was basically, look, I'll give you groundbreaking news coverage, you get me these docs, and then I was explicitly told by a guy, look, you know, they want diverse cast and... Yeah, they're racist.
And I'm like, I'm like, my friend, my friend, I am mixed race.
And they said, doesn't matter, you don't look enough.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
And then, this is crazy, when I worked at Fusion, they said the same thing.
They did this political forum.
It was called the Black and Brown Forum.
And they brought in their top talent and then got an outside talent, even though I was one of their top guys.
And I asked them, I was like, is there a reason you guys went for outside talent?
They got a black guy, a famous comedian.
And they said, well, it's the Black and Brown Forum, right?
And I'm like, yeah, no, I'm mixed race.
I'm like, I'm part Asian.
Do I not get a say?
And they're like, you look too white.
Have a nice day.
tyler fischer
It really doesn't matter.
It all matters on what you look like.
It doesn't matter.
alex stein
It's funny you guys say this, and I don't even know if you've known this, Tim, but I actually worked for the TV show Cheaters for eight years.
We catch people cheating on their husbands and wives.
I signed an NDA, so I can only say so much about it, but it's a reality show, you know, so you know how that goes, how real those are.
But my point is, the host was a guy by the name of Clark Gable.
His grandfather was Clark Gable from Gone with the Wind, the famous actor.
He died of a fentanyl overdose.
Literally, he had a prescription for pain pills, ran out of them, so he went and bought pills on the street, had fentanyl in it.
He took two pills, died in bed with his wife, or his fiancée at the time, and his 19-month-old baby.
And the guy that owns it, this guy named Bobby Goldstein, he loved me.
He's like, Alex, you're going to be the next host of the show.
I got in really good shape.
Right when we were about to start the new season, the show's distributed by Viacom, which owns CMT, VH1, and MTV.
They said, you're not going to be the host anymore.
You can still be one of the producers.
We're going to go with this guy named Peter Gunz.
Who's a black dude and the reason why I know he was an affirmative action hire, they made him change his name to Peter Pankey because they didn't want to glamorize gun violence.
unidentified
Whoa!
alex stein
Yes, that was his name, Peter Guns.
And so what happened was I was so dejected.
I was so sad.
I was like, man, I'm about to make $140,000 to me at the time to do this, you know, work six months out of the year.
It was like awesome.
I was so excited because I was actually making close that as a producer, but I had to work a lot harder than just be the host.
But my point is, Jansen Ray, a guy that works here, he's like, Alex, you should do your own podcast.
You should do your own podcast.
And that's what forced me to do it.
And then I did a podcast for a year.
Then I started going to city council meetings and I started confronting politicians.
So for me, getting canceled because of affirmative action was a blessing in disguise.
tim pool
So basically, you know, you get this moment where you snapped and you're, you just, you're punching holes in walls and you're, and this is what made Alex.
I mean, this is like a super villain origin story, I suppose.
Affirmative action.
tyler fischer
It was an affirmative action movie.
alex stein
Yes.
tyler fischer
The same thing happened to me essentially.
It was so much anger, like I was just cornered.
What am I going to do?
So it just all started pouring out, started making videos and all that stuff.
But I have a lawsuit with the Supreme Court for another acting manager who called me and said they wanted to represent me.
And then he called me back and he said, We really want to work with you.
We're no longer working with white men.
alex stein
No way.
tyler fischer
And I recorded it.
I was sitting at my podcast, and I didn't think that was gonna happen.
I was like, you know, he's like, we're gonna get you on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
We're gonna get you on SNL, the same old shtick.
And then he goes, yeah, it's just, we're not working with white guys.
And I go, I hit record, and I go, can you say that one more time?
A little slower for the people in the back.
He goes, we're not working with white guys.
And I said, is that company policy?
And he goes, yeah.
alex stein
What about gay white guys?
unidentified
Wow.
tyler fischer
I don't know, maybe.
alex stein
That's what I'm saying.
I wonder if you were gay.
tim pool
You should have just said, are you Slavic or Eastern European?
tyler fischer
Am I?
A little bit.
tim pool
Because the Coalition for Communities of Color says that Eastern Europeans are people of color.
tyler fischer
Really?
tim pool
Yeah, for real.
They do.
tyler fischer
I was like, obviously.
I was like, no, I'm not white.
I've been pretending to be white.
It's a big mistake.
I was told white people have it all.
So yeah, so I've had a lawsuit pending with them for like two years now.
unidentified
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, that's wild.
tyler fischer
And then I kind of got canceled for even pursuing that lawsuit.
You know, I put it on Twitter and then I got obliterated.
You're racist, white guy, screw you.
So I'm like, you can't win.
You have to do your own thing.
alex stein
Do you have representation now?
Did you find somebody?
tyler fischer
Oh yeah, I got a lawyer two years ago.
We were, I think, waiting for the deposition at this point.
tim pool
This is what happens with like moderate liberal individuals, or I should say like classically liberal, not necessarily like libertarian in terms of economics or anything, but you get these regular folks, I think people kind of where we are politically, where we're like, hey man, you know, it doesn't matter what your race is, you know, we're all here to live and work together, we want to be friends.
And then what happens is someone proposes a law and says you shouldn't be able to discriminate on the basis of race, religion, national origin, and Good, rational people are like, yeah, you shouldn't be able to do that.
I mean, that's messed up that someone would fire someone for their race.
The problem is the people who aligned with that view were secretly saying, we just hate white people.
And so what happens is you get this coalition of left liberal saying, hey, no more racism or whatever, however you want to describe it.
And then as soon as that law is in place, the left says, okay, now no white people either.
And so now those who are in the middle, like us, who are just, hey, racism is bad.
I don't care who you're attacking based on the color of their skin or whatever.
It's not a good thing.
Now you have the left being like, nah, we were always okay with it.
We just manipulated you to gain power and swing the pendulum in our direction.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
But what about this thought?
Because, you know, I've debated people on this, whether systemic racism exists and I've debated, you know, white guys, you know, the system, I do believe that we have systemic racism, especially against black people in the past.
But when I argued with him, he's like, no, that's not, it's not true.
We've never been racist to Indians or black people and all this stuff.
But then if you tell that same person, are we systemically racist to white people now?
He's like, yes, we are!
So I'm like, so you don't think in the past you could have been systemically racist towards other, you know, races?
tim pool
I think the issue there is what does systemic racism mean?
And there's, I don't use that, I don't like using that phrase anymore.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Because it was supposed to mean like a root structure that has racist, you know, so you take like, actually think about it this way, a blotch of paint I'm saying that in court.
And when you take the brush and drag it out, it eventually fades out, but there's still streaks of racism going to the far edge of the paper, right? - I'm saying that in court.
tyler fischer
Your honor, I have this canvas here.
Here's the blot of racism.
tim pool
But my point is, you have all this racism back in the day, and it's fading away.
It's fading away.
tyler fischer
It really is.
tim pool
There are still components of it, but the problem is the left takes systemic racism to mean everyone is racist.
That's just it.
No matter what you do, if you are white, you are racist.
tyler fischer
It's so terrible.
tim pool
And it's like, no, no, this is not, yeah, this is not correct.
alex stein
Well, don't you think hiring Kamala Harris just because she's black or a woman, isn't that kind of... It's racist.
Yeah, that's racist.
tim pool
And they said they were doing it.
alex stein
Yeah.
tyler fischer
It's discrimination.
I mean, you discriminate it against everybody else.
alex stein
Exactly.
I mean, if you don't check your boxes... And her!
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
And her, yeah.
Racism could be positive or negative.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
So when you do these DEI training, you ever do one of these DEI courses?
They're like, they show this.
And it'll be like, racism isn't just derogatory.
And then it'll show like a white woman walk up to an Asian guy and go, Lou is really good at math.
And it'll be like, no, this is racist.
So like compliment, assuming an Asian guy is good at math.
alex stein
You're perpetuating a stereotype.
tim pool
Exactly.
Even though it's complimentary, like you must be really good at something.
They're still offended by it.
unidentified
Right.
tyler fischer
And inherently to hire Kamala Harris, um, you know, who not only is the first black, you know, vice president, also the first.
tim pool
Indian.
tyler fischer
Autistic hyena that has been hired.
alex stein
If she had autism, I think she'd be more talented.
Her autism's not strong enough.
tyler fischer
But you're almost saying, you know, black women aren't good enough to even get this job, so we're gonna put you up there.
Which is kind of, it's insulting.
tim pool
Yeah.
Ah, the system's broken.
But it's funny how we're, I feel like the classically liberal position, and classical liberal does not mean liberals in the United States traditionally.
That's totally different.
I'm talking about like live and let live mentality.
We're still in the exact same position.
We're like, hey, stop being racist, please.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
But now it's just the left that's doing it.
And they love this thing where it's like, oh, the right says the left are the real racists.
Well, it's because you are.
Yeah, they really are.
tyler fischer
And they say it out loud.
You know, the people that are racist, they're sure they're hiding somewhere.
They're doing it quietly.
You don't really see it, you know.
No one's screaming it.
But the left is saying it out loud.
They said it to you.
They said it to you.
They said it to me.
They're telling everybody, you know, we're just not going to work with you just because you're white.
tim pool
This is why I absolutely, this is what really triggers me my whole life with the modern growing of the left and everything because my family literally having like, my mom is Park Korean, my dad is white, and then all of a sudden I'm hearing all these narratives about affirmative action and stuff.
My dad gets denied promotions as a firefighter because of affirmative action.
And so my family, we're lower class, struggling to get by, mixed race and all that, are struggling And I'm just like, how is it that they're going to take opportunities from my dad, who is a component of what they claim to want?
This multicultural, you know, thing.
And what really bothers me is now with you have like the critical race theorists.
Derek Ballant, for instance, they believe in racial segregation.
And so, you have these people who claim that they want the Great Melting Pot, they want to end miscegenation, and then two generations later, here I am, and they're like, you shouldn't exist.
Your parents should have been separated because they're different races.
I'm like, are you nuts?
tyler fischer
We're doing the exact thing.
We're the prototype for the thing that you claim to want.
alex stein
Well, and we talk about race a lot, but I honestly think it's the nuclear family too, you know, because like there's a lot of black guys that, you know, if you're born without a dad in the household, it doesn't matter your skin color, you know, you're going to just have no male influence, I think, to help guide you in life.
So I think that's, it's not necessarily all black or white.
I think a lot of it is like the family structure.
And then also it's the fact that they're getting rid of the middle class.
We basically don't have a middle class anymore.
So you're either just super poor, you're super rich.
So, How do you function in society if you have no money, you don't have any power, you have no control?
tim pool
I mean, look, we'll get more and more political with it.
Which political faction in the past few years was supporting the largest transfer of wealth to the ultra-elites?
It was the Democrat voter base, with the mandates, the lockdowns, the no-liability contracts for large pharmaceuticals.
With the stimulus and all that stuff, the extraction of wealth, the destruction of small businesses, it's wild to me that the people who are... This is why I just see so much evil here.
They claim to say, oh, we hate racism, and then they enact policies segregating by race.
They claim to support women, and then they say, but males can enter women's spaces.
They claim to... Like, all of these things they claim to support, they're doing the inverse of.
They claim to support the working class, and they support policies that destroy mom-and-pop shop businesses.
So during the lockdowns, these blue states are doing this.
People gotta understand, if you own a restaurant, and a lot of people probably experience this, you've got $20,000 worth of food product in your refrigerators.
They shut you down, it spoils, you ain't getting that 20 grand back.
You're done.
Your business is gone.
What happens?
The mom-and-pop store selling seeds closes down, but they let, you know, like in Michigan, they let Walmart stay open.
The largest transfer of wealth.
And it was, for whatever reason, it's the right saying, hey, stop doing this, and the left being like, no, we probably should keep doing it.
alex stein
Yeah, but our country's being run by multinational corporations.
It's not even human beings.
I mean, Walmart... No, seriously!
I know, I know, it's funny!
I mean, literally, like, if I tried to get something done in Congress, I would never... I wouldn't have a shot.
But if I was Raytheon or Halliburton, they can go in there and just pick and choose and get whatever vote or whatever they need to do to get it done, so... I mean, I feel like the funny thing is actually Raytheon has to negotiate with Walmart to get a bill passed.
Basically, yeah, I'm sure they do.
tim pool
But it is, because you've got these big corporations, not to call them out specifically, because I don't know their exact details, so let's just say, hypothetically, Corporation A funds a lobby for Politician 1, and then Corporation B funds lobbies for Politician 2, and then those two corporations are like, wait, wait, hold on, we're funding these two politicians that are about to go head-to-head in Congress, so those corporations probably meet and be like, okay, so we're getting behind this one guy and he wants to do these bills, is that going to interrupt your stuff?
We need to negotiate on this.
I guarantee you that happens.
alex stein
Oh, for sure.
tim pool
Corporations negotiating our laws for the politicians they've sponsored.
tyler fischer
Right.
alex stein
Well, it just shows you that we, they give us the illusion that we have control and power and they're voting right or left, but like I just said, I just think it's the multinational corporations that are really calling the shots.
tim pool
Yeah.
So, so where, where do we, where, so where, where are we at now?
I mean, you're, you're suing over, uh, you got fired for, or, or not hired.
tyler fischer
Yeah, not hired.
tim pool
Denied.
tyler fischer
Denied work, yeah.
tim pool
But now you're working with the Daily Wire and you've done a bunch of stuff with the Daily Wire.
tyler fischer
Yeah, so back to my point about not really caring about, you know, working with somebody that might be controversial like the Daily Wire.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tyler fischer
It just, it doesn't matter.
I mean, I was told, you know, you can't even be in Hollywood because of your skin color.
So to even be in a movie is great.
tim pool
That's so weird.
tyler fischer
It's like, I'm not gonna, yeah, I definitely had the thought, like, do I want to get involved with The Daily Wire?
You know, because I was, I live in New York City.
I'm around very, very leftist people.
Didn't get the COVID shot, so I also got fired for that.
unidentified
Wow.
tyler fischer
So it's like, I got fired for being white, got fired for Well, you couldn't be on set.
alex stein
Why'd you get fired?
tyler fischer
Yeah, couldn't be on set.
Couldn't go to the comedy clubs.
Not only that, but I was told I'm a domestic terrorist.
alex stein
Well, you are.
tyler fischer
Well, I am.
tim pool
Because you voted for Trump.
Is that what it is?
tyler fischer
No, no.
And so I was just like, what is happening?
What is happening?
tim pool
I think it's turning around.
tyler fischer
You know, look, it is, it is, but I think the people that really fought for it are... I'm exhausted.
alex stein
Yeah, but I'm ready for Hollywood to die.
tyler fischer
I hope they die.
alex stein
Yeah, I'm mad that SAG and the Writers Guild came back to an agreement that they're working.
I wanted them to be on strike forever.
tyler fischer
Me too.
alex stein
Because, dude, SAG and those unions, they don't even help out the struggling actors.
I think it's like 15% of SAG members make 95% of the money.
It's something ridiculous.
tyler fischer
Like, you know, most actors don't make any... Yeah, I think only 5% or so.
5-10% of SAG members make a living.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what it is, yeah.
tyler fischer
I mean, I was doing TV shows pretty regularly, co-stars, guest stars.
I wasn't making enough to live.
alex stein
Yeah, because the day rate's like $1,500 or something for just the SAG day rate.
tim pool
I gotta tell you, my view of SAG is that it exists to stop competition in acting.
alex stein
But that didn't work.
tim pool
It's to guarantee that that 5% can be ultra wealthy.
Because a lot of acting jobs are union required.
Like you have to be in the union to get these roles.
And it's really hard for people to get these roles.
tyler fischer
It's really hard.
alex stein
Yeah, but luckily now we all have an iPhone.
Everybody can start a podcast.
Like I remember when Howard Stern was making fun of Joe Rogan and Ari Shaffir and being like, podcasts are so stupid.
But now anybody can literally be a Hollywood producer.
And I think that is the biggest threat to Hollywood is that.
Independent people like the Daily Wire, Tyler's content, my content, anybody's content can go viral and they almost have to pay for that virality.
They can't even organically go viral.
tim pool
For sure.
And someone asked us this the other night on IRL, Tim Guest's IRL.
Kimmel and Fallon, these YouTube videos get millions of views, and they're like, how is that possible?
Who's watching?
I'm like, no, no, no, nobody.
But YouTube puts it on the front page no matter what.
They make sure it exists.
It's the narrative machine.
Even though, this is wild, you can have people who, like you mentioned, build up their own brands and build up the following, proving the merit of their talent.
And YouTube's like, we'd rather just put Colbert there.
And people are like, it's not good.
alex stein
Yeah, but they can pay for those ads.
You can pay for Google and get clicks.
tim pool
No, but to be algorithmically placed on the front page, to be whitelisted in that way?
alex stein
Yeah.
They have to pick you for that.
tim pool
Yeah, they decide, you know what, we're gonna do this.
tyler fischer
I mean, I went on Gutfeld the other night.
He gets more views than any of these other late night shows.
alex stein
Yep, I'm sure.
tim pool
Massively.
tyler fischer
Fox News, a comedy show on Fox News.
I mean, what does that say about where the culture's going?
tim pool
Look, with Disney's total failures recently, I don't believe they recover.
alex stein
You don't think Disney recovers?
unidentified
I mean, they're the biggest and baddest.
alex stein
They own ABC, ESPN, I mean they're too big to fail I guess is what I'm saying.
tim pool
I'm not saying they go out of business.
I'm saying I don't see them putting out another movie and having this turnaround.
There's a variety of reasons for this.
The political sentiment, especially over what's happening with X and Elon Musk saying, go F yourselves, a lot- Pretty cool, pretty cool.
alex stein
Yeah, that's badass.
tim pool
Yes.
Well, politics has become pop culture.
People are extremely active on the left and the right.
The people who are not particularly active tend to be slightly older, but the younger generations are very active.
Look, Hasan is like one of the biggest live streamers, period.
Not just for a left-wing commentator.
And it is politics.
We have consistently, if you go Monday through Friday, 8 p.m., if you go to youtube.com slash live, the most viewed live show is Timcast IRL, politics, news, and culture.
I mean, that's kind of crazy.
I didn't believe, someone told me that and I was like, no, it's gotta be a video game or something.
No, it's us.
So what I see with Disney is, and with things like Lady Ballers, so I was talking to Ryan Long about this before the show last night, This is, I think the future is going to be, it's, I don't know for how long, but the market is going to sort of digitize into a bunch of smaller markets.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
Maybe it coalesces at some point, I don't know how or when, but that's why I don't see Disney recovering.
The Marvel movies were huge 10 years ago, and now it's just garbage.
alex stein
Yeah, they suck.
tim pool
Even if they came out with a good one, I'm just, I gotta be honest, I'm over it.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
Is Batman a Marvel?
No, no, that's DC.
I think about it, I'm like, you know, we used to be so excited for the new Marvel movie that was coming out and then Avengers Infinity War happened.
And that was the end.
Now it's like they announced Loki, they announced, I don't even know what it is, Secret Wars or whatever.
And I'm just like, I don't care.
tyler fischer
- Is Batman a Marvel?
tim pool
- No, no, that's DC.
- Okay. - But they had a Blue Beetle, which is DC.
And I'm like, honestly, I just don't care.
And that's, I think, Warner Brothers or whatever.
But Disney could announce a new movie and I'm just gonna be like, well, I just don't really care anymore.
tyler fischer
The thing about how many people now are having kids that are going, well, I'm not gonna take my kids.
If I have kids, I'm not taking them to see a Disney movie.
tim pool
Right.
tyler fischer
There's no way.
alex stein
Yeah, but there is a weird phenomenon of Disney adults.
Have you seen that?
Where there's adults that are obsessed with Disney?
That's weird.
That's weird.
That is weird.
I got my Disney season pass!
I'm gonna go to Disney every day!
It's like, you're probably a pedophile.
tim pool
I don't know if Lady Ballers ends up grossing a billion dollars, right?
Or, I should say, it's not going to.
tyler fischer
And they don't need to, either.
That's the thing.
The Daily Wire, you know, if all of their subscribers watch it... Well, take a look at this.
tim pool
It's not even about their subscribers.
Here's the future of where I think we're probably going to be going.
Daily Wire spends, I'm just gonna do hypothetical numbers.
I don't know how much they spent on this movie, probably a lot.
tyler fischer
I think Jeremy said seven million.
tim pool
Seven million?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
He said it in an interview.
alex stein
That's what they spent on this movie?
Seven?
That's not a low-budget movie.
I mean, I guess in the sense of Hollywood, compared to a Hollywood movie.
I know Hollywood movies a lot, but seven's nothing to sneeze at.
tyler fischer
The Napoleon movie was two hundred million, or four hundred million.
tim pool
So get this.
tyler fischer
One of the two.
tim pool
How many people watch an episode of The Ben Shapiro Show?
Is it does it total like, I don't know, like a million people, right?
I don't know the actual numbers because you got all the different platforms, but he does well.
Seven million dollars.
That means the Daily Wire only needs to sign up 70,000 members to cover the cost of that movie after one year.
And actually, that math is wrong.
That puts them up 140,000.
alex stein
Is Candace in the movie?
tim pool
Well, that puts them up 1.4 million.
alex stein
Or is that a secret?
tyler fischer
I don't recall.
alex stein
Damn, dude.
tyler fischer
I don't recall.
tim pool
So check it out.
When we made Infringed, the documentary with Lauren Southern, The proposition, the business proposition is so, so easy.
The average member for, at least for us, is like 17 months.
And the reality is like a large portion are basically indefinite members at our website, at TimCast.com, and it's 10 bucks a month.
Some people are only for a few months, but on average, it comes out to maybe like 17.
That means one person signs up, we can average out, it's gonna be like 170 bucks.
So if we're gonna spend $100,000 on a project, we're like, okay, all we really need is about 1,000 new members.
But the shows we do get millions of views.
So if we can convert even 1,000.
So when you look at what The Daily Wire is doing, they're like, we spent $7 million.
They only got to sign up over the course of, like, they're gonna make their money back.
tyler fischer
Yeah, they will.
tim pool
And they're going to make money.
tyler fischer
I think they'll make it back right away, to be honest.
tim pool
Absolutely.
And they only need 70,000 of those people to sign up as new members to watch the movie.
And then on average, I don't know what their average turns out to be for daily wire.
I think they're actually like 13 bucks.
So it's a little bit, they need less than that.
They may only need like 50,000 people.
But for a network with You know, 30 million fans and like combined all the different followers and all their personalities saying sign up to watch the movie.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
They do not need to gain that many paying subscribers to cover the cost of that film.
alex stein
And they're going to get $7 million worth of marketing if New York Times hates it, if all of these big media companies.
tyler fischer
Newsweek put out an article, it said Ted Cruz stars in Daily Wire.
He's in it for like three seconds, but that was a great.
alex stein
That's the best publicity you can get.
tyler fischer
Such a clickable thing.
alex stein
Yeah.
I think it's going to be big just because it pisses off all the right people.
tyler fischer
And there's no competition with comedy films right now.
So imagine, there hasn't been a real comedy film for ten years or something.
alex stein
What's the last good... The Hangover?
I'm trying to think, what's the last good... Ted 2.
tim pool
Ted was...
This is what everybody says because we've been talking about this one was the last comedy film Yeah, everybody asked they're like Ted to and I'm like it's great it.
alex stein
Yeah, it's true Yeah, but if you look at the movies of the 90s, you know We were just saying this like Shawshank Redemption all these like great movies.
I think last year other than Top Gun I think Sonic the Hedgehog 2 was the highest grossing film Last year, I believe Sonic the Hedgehog 2.
I mean, where are we as a society where that's the number?
tyler fischer
Fox News is the biggest comedy.
Sonic is killing.
tim pool
So we did pull this up, but the number one grossing comedy film according to TheNumbers.com is Barbie.
But that's not a comedy.
I mean, it kind of is.
alex stein
It kind of was.
tim pool
No, but like, kind of doesn't mean is, right?
If a movie has something something comma comedy, fine.
But we're talking about a movie that says comedy.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
And you've got Barbie Haunted Mansion, A Man Called Otto, No Hard Feelings, 80 for Brady, Asteroid City, Magic Mike's Last Dance.
That's a comedy?
Was it really?
alex stein
They're still making Magic Mike's and then- Magic Mike's, yeah.
Is Channing Tatum or whatever?
Is he still in it?
tim pool
And they also include children's film, kids film, strays, Are You There God, It's Me, Margaret, that's a comedy film?
Like none of these are Ruby Gilman, Teenage Kraken, that's not a comedy film.
These aren't comedies.
alex stein
Hocus Pocus.
tim pool
Haunted Mansion, maybe as a kid's film, have comedic elements.
tyler fischer
Think about how many comedy films were cranking out when we were kids.
alex stein
Yeah, but how is Hocus Pocus, a movie from 1993, a top 20 grossing box office movie?
tim pool
I think it got re-released.
alex stein
Yeah, but just during Halloween, I'm guessing.
So for one month, it can be a top 20 movie.
tim pool
Oh yeah, that's wild.
alex stein
That's insane.
tyler fischer
We're in like a dirty dancing version of you're not allowed to.
That's what this feels like.
alex stein
No jokes!
tyler fischer
Doesn't it feel like we're really just not allowed to have comedy?
It's crazy!
So The Daily Wire is competing with nothing!
With nothing!
alex stein
With Bottoms!
Oh and Bottoms, number 16, so that's a movie with Marshawn Lynch and that's a movie, it's about America, it's an American Pie version of girls trying to lose their virginity and Marshawn Lynch, who I got in a big fight with at a Las Vegas casino recently, he's in the movie and if you watch the trailer, Tim, it's the Grisha's trailer, he's like, Y'all don't know how to lick the lasagna.
Y'all don't know how to... And he's talking to... These are... It's like American Pie.
These are high school girls that want to lose their virginity.
And he's their coach or whatever.
He's like their P.E.
coach.
tim pool
Yo, I could remake that movie.
It'd be a minute long.
Like the girl would just be like, hello guy, and he'd be like, you wanna go to my place?
alex stein
No, but I think it's girls have lesbian, they wanna lose their lesbian virginity in the movie.
tyler fischer
Even easier nowadays.
alex stein
Yes!
Read the description for Bottoms, but I didn't even think it says in the description.
tim pool
It says they start a fight club to lose their virginities to cheerleaders.
Oh, you're right.
alex stein
Yes, but it's lesbian virginity.
tim pool
You're right, you're right.
alex stein
Girls wanna lose it.
And Marshawn Lynch got a lot of heat from the black community, and they said, oh, why are you supporting this LGBTQIA plus nonsense?
And he said, well, my sister's gay, so I'm doing it for my sister.
tim pool
Look at this, Delicatessen is number 29 on the list of 2023 comedies.
That's from 1992.
tyler fischer
Wow.
tim pool
Because they do these re-releases.
alex stein
And it made a million bucks.
tim pool
Look, man, this is why The way I described it is Jeremy Boring's riding a moped behind these tractor trailers that are throwing gold off the back of the truck.
And he's just catching them and putting them in his little sidecar.
Jeremy's a smart, brilliant guy.
That Together Again song is fantastic.
It looks like he's a great actor as well, running a successful company.
So he's talented.
tyler fischer
We did this in like 20 days.
unidentified
Wow.
alex stein
In Nashville.
tyler fischer
Because they were going off to film another series in Europe.
unidentified
Is that a series they're filming with Brett Cooper?
tyler fischer
It's a series, yeah.
alex stein
So that's a Snow White series.
tyler fischer
No, no, no.
They're doing a lot.
They did Snow White, and now they're doing like a fantasy series.
alex stein
Oh, so that's not Snow White that she's working on.
tyler fischer
She is.
She did that.
tim pool
So they're doing a series called Pendragon something.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
And it's like seven, I think it's seven episodes?
tyler fischer
Seven or eight.
It's like a Game of Thrones type of... It's a novel.
They bought the rights to a book series.
tim pool
Yep.
tyler fischer
So they've been filming that in Europe.
alex stein
That's a lot more than seven million bucks to produce.
tyler fischer
That's a lot more than seven million.
tim pool
Seriously, you know, one of the challenges for Daily Wire Plus for me is, when can I get it on my TV?
Is the challenge, right?
So when... You were in Terror on the Prairie, right?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
When that came out, we...
Kind of tried pretty hard to figure out how to sit down on the couch and watch the movie and then just I went back to work.
I'm like, I don't know.
Yeah, we'll figure it out and We need we need like TV apps.
So like we were like, we'll plug our laptop into the TV or something, right?
tyler fischer
But who's gonna I'm not gonna do that.
alex stein
Yeah, I don't even know how to do it Okay in this and I'm and I'm now it's gonna sound like I'm anti Gina Carano.
I love Gina Carano She's great.
But do you ever think she regrets speaking out?
tyler fischer
No.
alex stein
You don't think she does?
tyler fischer
No.
Well, I was talking to her the other day and we keep in touch about this stuff because we're living these new lives now.
But she was at the top!
alex stein
She was on the Mandalorian, the top show.
That's like Tucker Carlson.
I mean, you're at the top.
tyler fischer
No, she was at the absolute top.
But I just said it was going to happen Sometime anyways, yeah with all these new fake rules that you have to follow I was like it doesn't matter if it was that tweet or another thing or another thing By the time the vaccine mandates came out.
She would have she would have lost everything on that good point Yeah, she she turned we weren't even supposed to do terror on the prairie.
She had another film slated and She said I'm not doing the vaccine mandate.
tim pool
What was it?
The other film was that like with Disney or like a major studio?
tyler fischer
No, this was, I think, with Daily Wire.
But it was... Daily Wire had a vaccine mandate?
Well, it might have been SAG or something, so you just had to.
alex stein
So was your movie a SAG movie?
Was Lady Bullish?
tyler fischer
No.
alex stein
Yeah, it was a non-union.
tyler fischer
That's the thing, I'm SAG, so it's like... You're technically a scab when you do that.
I'm also risking it, you know, it's like... I'm also risking it... But they're not gonna kick you out of SAG.
alex stein
Maybe they will now.
Don't clip this and send it to any SAG reps in New York.
tim pool
Do you even care to be in SAG at this point?
tyler fischer
Who's to say?
I mean, I might want to make a movie at some point.
tim pool
Do you need them?
tyler fischer
You don't need them.
But here's the other thing.
You can do both.
And I'm going to join it, so I'll be fine.
It's called FICOR.
alex stein
Yeah.
tyler fischer
See, SAG does such a great job of hiding the fact that you can do non-union by joining something called FICOR.
You hand in your SAG card, which means you don't have a physical card, you don't get the stupid DVDs, which everyone throws out, and you can't vote on whatever Crap they're doing.
You can do a non-union film and still be represented by SAG.
alex stein
And it only matters in Texas is a right-to-work state, so you can hire a non-SAG actor.
But like in LA, they follow the union rules like to the T. And that's why during the COVID lockdowns, they were crazy about it.
I mean, the testing, I think you had to get like four tests before you even went on a set.
I mean, it was whatever the requirements that the union put in, it was just a waste of money.
tim pool
I mean, We're gonna start doing movies, but it's mostly just because Don't Know, Don't Care are gonna do stuff, and I just do things.
And so... Do it!
tyler fischer
You're in a field of... It's a vast, open field of no competition.
tim pool
Yeah, so, uh... The challenge, however, is... You're competing with those films from 1993.
tyler fischer
Bottoms.
Right?
tim pool
Yeah, but the challenge is distribution.
And so, but this is why when I'm looking at like Lady Balls, for instance, again, I was talking with Ryan Long yesterday, and I was saying, I think we are going to see niche market films with great quality because Daily Wire only needs 70,000.
Again, that number is higher than actually, maybe 50,000.
To actually pay to watch the movie, and they've paid for the movie!
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
You know, so we're looking at these big films where they're like, we gotta make hundreds of millions of dollars, and I'm like, the issue with memberships is that one person becomes actually ten ticket sales instead of one because they're here for the whole ride.
tyler fischer
The whole year, yeah.
tim pool
So now we're gonna end up seeing like, we, Timcast could fund a movie and be like, I don't know, like if we did a really low budget film or something, I mean, Clerks was super low budget, you can do comedies for cheap, All we got to do is a couple thousand people to sign up and then we funded movies.
We could just start cranking these things out.
We could make them.
Granted, I don't want to just start cranking things out.
We want to get good talent.
We want to get good filming and everything like that.
But I think we're going to see a lot more of this.
Take a look at music, for instance, right now.
Sure, Taylor Swift is really big.
And then you get this moment where they're like, every one of her songs is in the Billboard Top 17 or whatever, and I'm like, yeah, but that's because they just put her music on these digital streaming platforms.
The average person is listening to mid-level bands.
You know, when you go onto Spotify or Pandora, whatever music service, YouTube Music, the bands you're listening to...
They're not the biggest bands in the world.
A lot of people do listen to big stuff.
They listen to big famous people.
Everybody's got maybe like some Post Malone or something.
But then a lot of the music is actually smaller bands that are in rotation for them.
alex stein
Okay, tinfoil hat time.
You've heard of the Tavistock Institute, obviously, right?
tim pool
It's like... Oh, right, in the UK.
alex stein
Yeah, in the UK.
And so, supposedly, this is the conspiracy then.
They used to do military experiments where they'd get soldiers and they'd give them like LSD and marijuana and they'd have them listen to music and they would see like how their pupils dilate, how their body, if they want to dance, this and that.
So there is a conspiracy that they actually have like a formula that Taylor Swift uses or these, you know, whatever these big time producers use, where they know it's going to be pleasurable to our ears.
And that's why she's able to constantly do so many hit songs.
Have you ever heard that conspiracy, Tim, that there is like a formula?
tim pool
There is a formula.
alex stein
To what's popular.
tim pool
But there was this really great video made, I think like 10 years ago, by a famous music producer who explained how to write a pop song.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
And the song he wrote, the lyrics are explaining what he's doing.
So, they have AI that can make pop music.
There's actually services where you can make, like, say, here's the song I want, here's the speed I want, here's the style, and it'll render a song for you.
So it's like we're in this brave new world.
tyler fischer
It is like that with movies too.
There's like an archetype that you can follow where if you break too far away from it people aren't gonna watch.
tim pool
I don't think that Taylor Swift is part of a government conspiracy or anything like that.
alex stein
No, no, I'm just saying that like they actually have science, you know, there's a musical science to it and that's why Taylor Swift has 25 hits and why, you know, mid-level bands don't have that, whatever, WHO LET THE DOGS OUT, you know, or whatever, some hit song, you know, that there's something in these songs.
I'm trying to think, like, Psy, remember that song?
tim pool
Gangnam Style.
alex stein
Gangnam Style.
There's something to that.
Why was that the most popular song?
That song was played.
tim pool
That was manufactured.
alex stein
That's what I'm saying, I'm just saying.
tyler fischer
It does hit something in your brain that goes, I like this, I don't know why.
Gangnam Style, yeah!
alex stein
We're all just yelling Gangnam Style.
I'm like, there's something in this that's subliminal.
tim pool
What's that guy's name?
Scooter?
alex stein
Scooter Braun?
tim pool
Is that who it was?
alex stein
That's her manager that ripped her off and then she had to re-record her music.
Yeah, he's the guy who did... Justin Bieber, everybody.
tim pool
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he did Gangnam Style too.
alex stein
No, did he?
I mean, he might have.
tim pool
Well, it's been a long time.
alex stein
I know Psy still is selling out stadiums for that song.
tim pool
Uh... I think... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Scooter Braun.
He did Gangnam Style.
Wow.
So I was at a Google World or whatever ten years ago.
I'm pretty sure... It's been a long time.
I barely remember these things.
And I think he was there and he was explaining how they were like, we're gonna make Gangnam Style the thing.
And the gist of the story... And again, I'm gonna say I'm probably remembering this way wrong because it was a story that didn't matter to me.
I didn't care about and I passively heard while I was at some conference.
And it was something like...
They saw the video.
The video was hilarious and goofy.
And they thought it could be this generation's Macarena kind of thing.
And so, I don't know who approached who.
I think they might have approached Psy and said, we can make this one really, really big for you.
And Psy said something to the effect of, if you make it big in the West, you can keep all of the money.
I don't care.
Like, make the song hit.
It's marketing.
No, no, no, no, no.
We definitely can't do that.
We're going to get you paid.
You're going to make a lot of money off the song, but we're going to get it to number one.
And there's a variety of tactics that were used.
And again, so my understanding from the time, I don't know if Scooter said this or who did, but they basically gamed Reddit.
to meme-ify the song.
unidentified
And what ended up happening was I remember- With bots or with humans?
tim pool
I don't know.
I'm not going to accuse anybody of anything.
But I remember surfing Reddit and the front page of Reddit made hits.
It was a meme machine.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
Because the meritocracy of upvoting what was good and downvoting what was bad.
And so I remember when Gangnam Style hit the front page of Reddit and I saw it probably like when it only had a few hundred thousand views and then it starts popping up over and over again.
Everyone's sharing it and I'm like, oh, this is hilarious.
I'm hanging out with my friends in LA and we're doing the dance like we're goofing off and we're like we were crossing the street we are going to a shabu shabu house I think it was what it's called where they boil the food in front of you and then like I'm crossing the street and I did the horse thing as a gag to my friends thinking like nobody nobody knew what it was and a guy honked his horn at me it was like yeah!
tyler fischer
Gangnam style!
tim pool
And I was like okay this is getting weird but here's the wild thing about what Reddit used to be And I don't know if this is how they did it, but you take, someone wrote a paper about this.
Back in the day, when Reddit had a default front page, and maybe it still functions this way to a certain degree, you post a video, then you get 10 different phones that are logged into 10 different accounts, and you upvote all of those, you have them all upload that video, so that instantly jumps the algorithm.
And then each of those phones downvotes all of the other Videos around it and then instantly it's on the front page and it's getting thousands or whatever, whatever hits.
And so you have to imagine if some random dude on the internet wrote this up and made a video about it, the intelligence agencies understood how to gamify social media and do all this stuff.
tyler fischer
I mean, I had a video go to the front page of Reddit the other day.
I don't even know.
I've never gone on Reddit.
I had a friend text me and go, Oh my God, you're on the front page of Reddit.
It's still to some people has that.
tim pool
I don't know if there's a front page anymore.
tyler fischer
Has that impact?
alex stein
People love Reddit.
I hate it.
tyler fischer
It is literally just a toxic- I don't even- what is it?
alex stein
You've never- I mean- I don't go on it.
I guess you'd kind of describe it like a message board, but you can upvote and downvote the messages so you'll see what's popular and what- but it's just, a lot of people have Reddits, like there used to be an Opie and Anthony Reddit for the show, the Opie and Anthony show.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And this was supposedly the most toxic Reddit ever.
There was actually one of them- That I would go on.
Yeah, exactly.
But one of the moderators in the Reddit, and Anthony Kumi has shared this later, was a guy that shoplifted from a Walmart, he was in an open Jeep, drove away from the cops, and his baby fell out of the car and died.
And he didn't even go and help the baby, he still tried to run his own baby.
And this is one of the head mods of this Reddit, Opie and Anthony.
I'm just saying this is like how toxic I just use as an example Anthony always shares that that guy went to jail because he hated him because the reddit if you're an opiate Anthony read it or you're the Howard Stern read it it's all hate right it's not support so reddit is but that's great publicity you know yeah it is it is but it like I said if you read reddit dude it's all like oh F you this person sucks he's it's just not a very positive fun place to say the least I'm pretty sure it's fair to say it's the opposite of positive.
Yeah, exactly.
tim pool
It's just so nasty.
alex stein
It's the nastiest.
And I think that's kind of where we are, like, our culture is, where people like to be nasty to other people.
Like, this is what I'm trying to articulate, is that- Shut the fuck up.
No, no, no, but I like that.
Is I have, I've had OnlyFans models on my show, and I'm not saying OnlyFans is good, it's terrible for society, but really, I'm a libertarian in my mindset.
If you're an adult, whatever, you want to be a whore on the internet, But I also was on a podcast, Chrissy Mayer's podcast, and Brandy Love was on there.
She's the 14th-ranked porn star on Pornhub.
And she's like, the whore is here, and I called her a whore.
And this video went viral, because I was like, oh, you're a whore, and then she got mad that I called her a whore, this and that.
So my point is, people get so mad when I'm nice to an OnlyFans model, but they loved it when I called this porn star a whore.
People loved it.
And a guy came up to me at a comedy show, and he's like, Alex, you know, I just was so mad.
You were so nice at OnlyFans Model, but you were, when you were mean to Brandy Love, I love that.
And I asked, I'm like, dude, why do you like it when guys get mad at women?
And he's like, well, I'm a virgin, I'm 30 years old, and I've never been laid.
And it's just, I like it.
You're speaking for us when you call out these women.
So I think that's weird in society where, even on the right wing, they love to call out women.
tim pool
We gotta get you started.
Go for a walk.
I'm not kidding, I'm not trying to be mean.
If you're at home, if you're not finding meeting friends, start by just going for a walk.
Go outside, walk as far as you can, walk back, start doing that.
I recommend going to the gym.
alex stein
Of course.
tim pool
- People, you know, I love these stories where it's like, this dude is out of shape, overweight.
You see these meme posts where it's a guy's like, I was a, what, a neat, is that what it's called?
I don't know what that means.
- Neat?
- Yeah, someone who like stays home and doesn't work and plays video games all day or something.
- Oh. - And then they're like, I went to the gym thinking like, I should check out what this is all about.
And this dude who's like out of shape, you know, greasy or whatever.
Instantly has, like, a couple super-ripped dudes fist-bump him, high-five him, and ask him, like, what does he want to do?
How does he want to get started?
And he's like, now it's been several months.
I'm in shape.
These guys are super nice to me.
They encourage me every day.
I feel so good.
Is this what life is like?
The internet lied to me.
This is so awesome.
And I'm like, yeah, just get started, man.
Just start by going for a walk.
Hygiene's a big deal.
tyler fischer
That's why I've got a dog.
I mean, I was like, I mean back when I got cancelled or whatever, I didn't leave the house for like a year.
tim pool
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
alex stein
Just podcasting and making content?
tyler fischer
No, not even.
I had a year of doing nothing because I hadn't even gotten started with that.
And, you know, I'm a pretty charismatic guy.
I do stand-up.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
You know, I'm in shape.
And I was still terrified to go out into the world and talk to people and to talk to chicks.
Nowadays, it is painfully hard to do it.
alex stein
And the apps are so superficial.
tyler fischer
And the apps, yeah, I was on all the dating apps.
And so, but I was like, I saw Jordan Peterson be like, well, you know, if you're stuck in your routine, like get a damn dog, you know?
alex stein
Is that really?
Jordan Peterson encouraged you to get a dog?
unidentified
Yes!
alex stein
Oh wow.
tyler fischer
Because I was just home watching Jordan Peterson videos.
I was like being raised by Jordan Peterson when I was 30.
Making your bed all day.
I was like, my dad was this random guy on YouTube being like, clean your damn room, you know?
It's like, stop.
Jack it off into a towel every five seconds, you know, get your life together.
alex stein
There's a point.
unidentified
And so I got a dog and then I ended up- So that's what it was like before you got the dog.
tyler fischer
That was like, yeah, yeah.
And ended up walking with him like five miles a day in the park, would meet a girl, he would go up and, you know, sniffle.
tim pool
That's the thing about like, I love how easy it is.
The gag of how to meet a woman is you get a dog, you go to the beach, the dog gets off the leech.
Oh no!
tyler fischer
Yeah, but you still have to be able to talk and you have to make eye contact.
alex stein
But it's a good icebreaker.
tyler fischer
It's a good icebreaker, but nowadays I really do feel so bad for men.
A lot of men are having sex.
Yeah, that's weird.
Dude, I get... I perform at the Comedy Cellar, right?
I'm going after Dave Chappelle.
I come out.
Some hot chick's like, you're so funny.
And I'd be like, let's go out.
She'd be like, no, you're too small.
You're too short.
She'll walk away.
alex stein
Did you see on a dating app that 90% of women put a six foot tall requirement?
tyler fischer
Yeah, six foot or up.
And it's going up and up and up.
tim pool
You should wear drywall stilts.
Yeah, yeah.
And wear pants over them?
tyler fischer
Well, I changed my height to millimeters, just so they don't really, they're like, that sounds tall.
alex stein
But why are these girls so superficial?
There's something about a short kings that are dominant too, you know?
Why don't they like the short kings in your opinion, Tyler?
tyler fischer
Well, I don't even like when they say short king.
alex stein
See, I love the short king.
tyler fischer
Well, because here's the thing.
Then you call someone a fat queen and suddenly... Is that a thing?
alex stein
Oh, there's no fat queens?
tyler fischer
Well, why not?
It's like, you're telling me I need the title of king to have this extra confidence because I'm short.
It's so condescending.
alex stein
Yeah, it is.
tyler fischer
So I called the woman a pudgy princess and she was like, how dare you?
I was like, it's the same thing.
alex stein
Yeah, you're right.
Here's what you do.
tim pool
Don't list your height, list your income.
tyler fischer
It's the same as my height.
alex stein
No, but I guess I didn't ever think about that.
That is kind of a derogatory term.
tyler fischer
Oh, big dick energy.
It's like, oh, you have huge clit energy.
I reverse everything because then it becomes an insult to these women that want equality.
It's like, well, I'm doing the equal...
tim pool
Tell the woman they have a dad bod.
You're like, I thought dad bod was a good thing.
tyler fischer
Or even a mom bod is an insult.
tim pool
Yeah, but you know, dad bod.
alex stein
But you tell me, Tyler, you'll have a good set at the comedy club.
The girl will be like, you're so funny.
You're like, hey, let's go out.
And they'll say no.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I mean, look, I get dates, right?
Yeah, of course.
But you're disqualified instantly by like 80% of attractive women.
tim pool
I got it.
Put a wedding ring on.
alex stein
Yeah, that's actually, that's a genius idea.
tim pool
Like, apparently, this is like, I don't know if this is actually true.
tyler fischer
Yeah, but now you're just attracting really terrible men.
You're lying!
alex stein
But there is something to that.
A girl wants a guy that's unavailable.
I don't know what it is, it's like you want what you can't have.
unidentified
I'm in stilts in a wedding, walking around the wedding.
tim pool
Here's an idea, here's an idea.
tyler fischer
With my dog on a long leash.
tim pool
Hire two actresses, get yourself like a fur cape and like sunglasses.
And then after you're set, have the two of them on your side.
And then be like, what were you saying to me, babe?
Oh, you're so funny, but I don't want to date you.
Be like, do I look like I care?
And then she'll be like, oh.
tyler fischer
And she'll want you right away.
tim pool
She'll want you right away.
tyler fischer
I've done all those mind games and they work.
But then you're like, if I have to do these psychological tricks, To get a woman.
So I think you should have to put your weight on the dating apps if you have to put your height.
alex stein
You're coming up with genius stuff!
tyler fischer
I know, I know!
alex stein
Dude, Pudgy Princess, the weight, I love this.
tyler fischer
But why not?
If I have to put my height.
Men don't look at women's height.
This is a female... Unless they're like 5'10".
alex stein
I don't care.
tyler fischer
I've dated women that are 6'12".
tim pool
Wait, wait, wait.
unidentified
Hold on, hold on.
tim pool
Check it out.
When you go on dating apps, So I don't know about Tinder or whatever, I haven't used a dating app in 10 years or whatever, but don't they have height as like a form?
So it's like, when you're filling it out, like your age- It's one of the first things that you see is the height.
Right, it's not that people, I think on Tinder, you just fill out your bio and include your height, but aren't there some where it's like, what's your name, your age, your height, your occupation?
Is it height included in the form of like a default thing to ask for?
tyler fischer
Some of them you have to put the height.
tim pool
You gotta, I think you should, weight should be in there too.
tyler fischer
Exactly.
Yeah.
Exactly.
It really should.
It's like you want to know if I could reach the top of the fridge and I want to know if you're going to clear out the fridge.
It's the same exact thing.
tim pool
Absolutely.
But you know what really bothered me back in the day is when curvy went from meaning like a woman with wide hips and boobs to fat.
alex stein
Yeah.
It's like, dude, no, you can't- Like Sofia Vergara would be considered curvy from years ago, but now curvy is like a 300-pound obese woman- Curvy?
tim pool
Curvy is supposed to mean hourglass?
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Not orange.
tyler fischer
Not Lizzo.
unidentified
Not Lizzo.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim pool
Curvy.
alex stein
Dude, and Lizzo is fat.
Like, I don't understand how she can kind of justify- Dancing on a stage?
tim pool
Like- Well, not that- Not justify, but like, she can move.
alex stein
You know what I mean?
Well, she can, and she's talented.
tyler fischer
Chris Farley, you know, he used to do The Worm.
You're like, man, how is this giant guy?
That guy could move.
alex stein
Another guy that is the greatest comedian ever, but... You know what it is?
tim pool
It's the food.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
So I was watching a video of, what are they, like Atlanta cheerleaders or something, and they're all morbidly obese?
I'm not saying to be mean.
alex stein
The Falcons?
The Atlanta Falcons cheerleaders?
I know there's guy cheerleaders.
Tampa Bay Buccaneers have two guys.
tim pool
I don't know enough about any of this stuff.
But there's like, there's a video of cheerleaders from Georgia or something.
And they're all morbidly obese and they're moving.
Like they're doing well.
And I'm like, you know what I think it is?
I've seen these, I've seen these videos skateboarding where it's like a dude weighs 300 pounds and he actually can land flip tricks and stuff.
And I'm like, how is he jumping?
How could you be?
I knew a dude who was one of the, like a super good skateboarder, but he was massive.
And I'm like, I don't understand how you're drenched in sweat.
You're skating every day, but you're still massive.
Cause I think there's something wrong with the food.
Chemicals, preservatives, something's disrupting the body's metabolism?
I don't know, man.
Like, have you seen the vids of Lizzo and she's like moving like crazy and she's dancing and she's drenched in sweat?
tyler fischer
Yeah, but she's gonna die when she's 41, you know.
alex stein
Yeah, she probably already has diabetes.
tyler fischer
I heard someone the other day be like, have you ever seen any obese elderly people?
You don't!
alex stein
No, you really don't.
tyler fischer
Not really old.
You just don't.
alex stein
You don't.
No, you're 100% right.
They don't last.
And, you know, they say you don't see tall old people either.
tyler fischer
That's one of my pitches to women.
I go, this guy's gonna die when he's 40.
His heart's gonna explode.
alex stein
Well, Lil Duval says that, that comedian, he's the small black comedian, he's like, yeah, tall people, tall, in words, don't live, is what he said in his video.
tyler fischer
Yeah, and shorter guys are more, because we're selected more seldomly sexually, I think we're better in bed, because we gotta make it count.
I go, this is my shot.
tim pool
That's the Revenge of the Nerds argument, when that dude raped the woman at the end of the movie, remember that?
tyler fischer
I remember the movie, but I don't remember the rape part.
tim pool
You don't remember the rape scene in Revenge of the Nerds?
alex stein
From what, the jock fraternity raped somebody?
tim pool
No, no, the nerd rapes the woman.
But then she likes it because he says nerds only think about sex.
tyler fischer
Right, yes.
tim pool
Yeah, he rapes her.
tyler fischer
That's, okay.
I don't, I wish the rape part didn't happen, but I don't remember the rape part.
tim pool
No, yeah, like, she thinks she's with her, she's with her boyfriend because he's wearing a mask.
unidentified
Oh.
tim pool
And so he tricks her into having sex, and then she ends up enjoying it, and he's like, nerds only think about sex.
alex stein
Oh, yeah, he wears the mask.
Oh, he straight raped that lady, too.
tyler fischer
Oh, right, right.
alex stein
She thought she was sleeping with a football player.
tim pool
She thought it was her boyfriend.
alex stein
Yeah, yeah, the football guy.
tim pool
No, it's just some nerd who snuck into her room.
tyler fischer
Oh, was that rape because he had a mask on and she didn't know who it was?
Yeah.
Oh.
That sounds more like trickery.
alex stein
I think that is still rape.
I think it sounds more like a prank.
tyler fischer
Legally, that's... Sounds like a silly prank.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Silly prank.
alex stein
Silly Billy.
tim pool
But it was funny, we were talking about that like a few weeks ago, and I was like, you guys remember the rape scene from Revenge of the Nerds?
I'm like, what?
unidentified
That's not in the movie, I'm like, yes it is!
alex stein
I'm looking this scene up right now.
tyler fischer
But if, again, if it was reversed and some chick took her mask off and it wasn't the girl you thought, you'd be like, eh.
alex stein
You wouldn't care, yeah.
tim pool
Yeah, men and women are different.
tyler fischer
We're different.
tim pool
But I still think you need that, like, legal standard, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Sure.
tim pool
Like, you can't do that, you know?
But it's funny, like, when was this movie in the 80s?
And the nerd is just like, nerds are better at sex.
And she was like, wow, I didn't consent to this, but I liked it.
I'm like, this is kind of messed up, dude!
alex stein
Oh wow, Revenge of the Nerds filmmakers address controversial rape scene.
And they say that I regret that.
Once an 80s classic, Revenge of the Nerds doesn't quite hold up under the bright lights of 2019.
A fact that not even its cast director and writer can ignore.
Wow, dude, that is pretty dark.
tim pool
Dude, it's like, I don't know man, 1984.
I wasn't even alive.
But yeah, the scene is like...
alex stein
Towards the end of Venge of the Nerds, lead nerd Louis sees his crush Betty fighting with her boyfriend Stan and decides to take advantage of the opening.
Louis steals Stan's Darth Vader mask and follows Betty into a funhouse, where they proceed to have sex.
When Betty asks him to take off the mask, he declines, until afterwards when he reveals that he's not Stan after all.
You're that nerd, says Betty.
Yeah, I mean that's literally rape.
tim pool
It's a rape scene, dude!
You're that nerd!
alex stein
Wow.
That was a good movie.
tim pool
Are you looking at Decider?
alex stein
Yeah, I'm looking at this Decider one, yeah.
tim pool
Where is it, uh, at the time it was considered sort of a switch?
Is that what you call it?
alex stein
Well, what is it?
That's, uh, Patrice O'Neill had that great joke and then Amy Schumer stole it from him.
tim pool
You gotta read the rest of the quote.
So they proceed to have sex when Betty asks him to take off the mask.
He declines until afterwards when he reveals he's not Stan.
After all, you're that nerd, says Betty.
God, you were wonderful.
Are all nerds as good as you?
Yes, because all jocks think about is sports, says Lewis.
All we ever think about is sex.
That's the stupidest line ever.
That's not even, I don't know, was that funny back then?
Like, the joke about nerds is they think about math and jocks think about sports.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
Like, everybody's thinking about sex.
What's the joke?
That nerds are vapid and don't think about anything of meaning?
tyler fischer
Interesting.
tim pool
But it's funny.
She's like, wow, you were wonderful.
I'm like, it's not just a rape scene, but it's like all of a sudden she realized how much she enjoyed it.
After all, it's very messed up.
alex stein
Wow.
And I think, I'm going to say this joke wrong, but Patrice O'Neill has it, like different sexual stuff.
It's like, you know, like, I think it's called the Houdini is where you have sex with a girl, doggy style.
And then you, you have your friend.
All right, we're going, we're going to listen.
So then he goes in and then you go outside the house and you look at her through the window and it's called the Houdini.
tyler fischer
Oh yeah.
tim pool
Look man, there, there, there was a, there was a clip going around on Twitter of the roast of Bob Saget.
Where, like, a ton of the jokes were about Bob Saget just doing really awful things to the children.
Mary-Kate.
Mary-Kate.
And people were like, how were these jokes acceptable back then?
And I'm kind of like, you know, not my cup of tea, that kind of humor.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
But I am worried about, are we going to start going after comedians?
I mean, look, you have comedians making crass, crude, and offensive comedy because we understand the joke is that it's so offensive and shockingly egregious, it's not true.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
We're trying to really insult somebody.
What do you think?
Are the other jokes off-limits?
alex stein
No, see, this is another thing is Howard Stern, he sucks now, but I'm a Howard Stern, you know, just obsessed with him when I was younger.
And he used to always have Daniel Carver, who is the leader of the KKK, Grand Wizard, and he would lampoon him.
He would like talk about, he would just, you know, say the most disgusting racist stuff.
But if you hear it, it was funny.
I don't think we should censor anything.
I hate that we don't have that dialogue.
If somebody has the most repugnant views, we should talk to them so we can see that we don't like their views, instead of hiding and becoming so politically correct.
tyler fischer
It kind of deflates it, too, if you put it out in the open like that.
alex stein
And if you lampoon it and you joke about it.
tyler fischer
Well, you can joke about anything.
It's more if the big tech companies censor it and take it down.
That's the problem.
I can get on stage and say anything I want.
But if I put the clip online and they go, "Nah, can't make a COVID joke during this period of time." Or, "You can't do this." Or, "I know someone got a Netflix special and Netflix said, "We'll give you the special.
You can't make any COVID jokes." And I just thought...
tim pool
Can you say who it was?
tyler fischer
No.
alex stein
But they said...
Netflix said you can't make...
tyler fischer
It was Matt Reif.
No, I'm kidding.
alex stein
But they said you can't make any COVID jokes.
tyler fischer
Yeah, and I'm thinking like, you know, I don't blame the guy.
He took the special.
He did the special.
But it's just sad to me that they're saying, well, here's this thing that's awful.
I mean, what if he had a brilliant COVID joke?
Look, people have World War I jokes, right?
You know, or- Rumble.
Yeah.
alex stein
Yeah, but it doesn't- the rumble's great, but it's still not the same as the major social media platforms.
unidentified
No, I get that, but at a certain point, like this is why- It might be eventually.
alex stein
Yeah, I hope it is.
tyler fischer
It might be eventually.
tim pool
And only if people start actually saying, I want to do the joke.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
So the Daily Wire is making movies.
They're gaining more and more power from doing it.
It may be, in a hundred years, that kids are like, turning on the Bent Key movie.
They have the, you know, no one's gonna have VHS anymore.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
But Disney might just have destroyed themselves.
And people might say, there's no way.
I mean, you thought Disney can't recover?
I watched a video the other day of the rise and fall of Blockbuster.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
And there's like 7,000 Blockbusters in the late 2000s.
People didn't even realize.
I didn't even realize.
I thought Blockbuster died way earlier.
It's like 2009 is their peak.
tyler fischer
Whoa.
tim pool
And then Netflix launches streaming and Blockbuster failed to adapt and they're gone.
I think there's like one location left.
alex stein
In Alaska or something.
tim pool
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
Because they don't have internet.
alex stein
Yeah.
And then I forget whoever showed at Netflix, there's a meme going around where he took a selfie of him mailing out the first Netflix DVD.
And it's insane.
I remember when Netflix came out, I got it.
You know, when you'd mail in the DVDs and you'd pick, you'd have a list, like you'd be like, you know, your top 10 movies and you didn't know which one they were going to send you.
tim pool
And the DVD would come in the mail and you'd be like, oh, the movie's here, let's watch it!
alex stein
That was a good one.
tyler fischer
I knew that was the beginning of the end because my favorite thing was going with my friends to Blockbuster and you get to go and you see the covers and you sneak in that the x-rated booth in the back and it was like an adventure man.
alex stein
On a Friday night.
It was the best place to be.
Maybe.
I mean, that's my whole childhood.
tyler fischer
Then we go to the grocery store, we get popcorn, we get stuff.
Hot pockets.
You're out on this adventure and now you're just on the couch getting the disc and now you don't even have to open the disc.
You just click something.
tim pool
I remember Hollywood video.
Remember Hollywood video?
unidentified
Yeah, of course.
tim pool
It's not just that Blockbuster existed.
There was a bunch of different video stores.
The Hollywood store had like this, by me, you have the video section, and then there's this like metal framed gateway into another portion of the building, separating the video games from the movies.
Oh, video games.
And then I'm all excited for the new SNES game, I'm gonna rent Mega Man X3, gonna play it.
I remember I rented this game where you're like a possum, and you got like a sword or something, I don't even know what's going on.
tyler fischer
That was so exciting.
I know.
And then you were renting it, so you only had it for a period of time, so you had to make the best of it.
alex stein
And then you'd get a fine if you didn't rewind it.
You guys remember that?
tyler fischer
Yeah, the rewind.
alex stein
Yeah, be kind, rewind.
You had to rewind it.
tim pool
I remember when I was little, I rented some video game and it fell down the side of my bed on the right side and I forgot I had it.
And then it was late for like 30 days.
And so then one day I went back to Blockbuster to rent something and they're like, you owe us $30.
And I was like, for what?
And then they were like, this video game.
And I was like, oh no.
And I ran back home and it's like smashed and it's got like candy all stuck to it.
I think I was like 10 years old or something.
I was like, oh no!
alex stein
Did you try to return it?
tim pool
No, I ended up having to pay the 30 bucks.
Like, I had to, like, save up money.
tyler fischer
That was like the first social credit score was.
alex stein
Your blockbuster card.
tyler fischer
They go, you didn't rewind Top Gun, and you came inside this video game.
tim pool
This is the worst thing, right?
It was so much fun to go with your friends to the video store or your family.
And then you're walking through the aisles looking at movies and then you all vote and be like, we should get this one.
And you committed to that movie and you're gonna watch it.
Now I turn on Netflix or Amazon or whatever stupid streaming service.
We're getting rid of them one by one because we're like boycotting everything now.
And it's like scrolling through all these movies and they all look awful.
The descriptions are all like vague.
You know what really bugs me?
Dude, I love horror, but all the horror descriptions are like, Janet and her daughter encounter a strange visage when they move to a new house, and I'm like, okay, next.
John and Sally discover a strange demon when they move to a new house, and I'm like, next.
And it's all like this really vague, like, they uncover something mysterious, and I'm like, dude, just tell me, is it a zombie?
Is it a ghost?
Is it a serial killer?
But it's not the same anymore.
unidentified
No.
tim pool
Now we turn the movie on, and after ten minutes, we're like, next.
tyler fischer
Yep.
tim pool
We're out.
tyler fischer
Yeah, you committed.
You had that one movie.
We got a rule.
tim pool
We got a rule for the new studio space, Freedom Stand, where we're doing the new Boonies show.
We bought a sound system from the 90s, which has got a cassette, radio, CD, and vinyl, and big speakers.
We're gonna wire it into the sound system for the building, and the rule is you cannot put on any playlists or anything.
It's gonna be, you're gonna put the vinyl in, and you're gonna start it, and then you're gonna flip it over and finish it, and then swap it out.
No more of this, I go on this streaming service and get random songs from random bands anymore.
Like, now it's gonna be, pick an album and play it.
tyler fischer
Listen to the whole thing.
tim pool
And if someone brings in a mixtape, on a cassette or a CD, we'll play it.
alex stein
But the point is, we're gonna put a CD in, we're gonna put a vinyl on, and we're gonna play the music from that band as we're- Well, now we're just doing Nostalgia Hour, but gosh, remember the CD, burning a CD, how badass that was, dude?
tyler fischer
Burning a CD!
Dude, I haven't thought about that in like 20 years!
alex stein
And I had the CD, rewritable drive, you'd burn it, I'd have the disc, and you'd give your friends- I mean, gosh, it's crazy how we long for that nostalgia.
tim pool
I went to an antique store in Chicago, And one of the things they were selling at the antique store was 16 CD cases wrapped in plastic and it said, CD case replacements.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
Like, so if your Atlantis Morissette case cracked, you'd buy a replacement.
Just buy the case.
Put the paper in it and then put the CD in and put it back in your CD.
alex stein
I had a bunch of those.
Yeah, I mean.
tyler fischer
And the big binder.
alex stein
You had the binder!
tyler fischer
Then you didn't even need the case.
unidentified
You'd be driving on the highway trying to, you know.
tim pool
Now we're doing old man, uh, Nostalgia Hour.
tyler fischer
But that was probably more safe than, you know, driving and scrolling, you know?
tim pool
At least you have the big binder and you can see the- Well, are we over- My son had like a nine CD changer in his trunk.
tyler fischer
Oh my, ah, the CD chain.
alex stein
That was great.
tyler fischer
You can hold nine CDs.
alex stein
But are we, do we have too much?
Are we overstimulated with content?
tyler fischer
Yes, we're done.
I think we're done.
I think we've peaked.
I think we peaked in the, you know, 2010 or something.
I don't know if there's any going back from this.
tim pool
Oh bro, no, no, no, no.
Artificial general intelligence?
Elon says it's in three years.
That's when everything just stops.
Time freezes.
Because this is the point where, when we reach the singularity point... I'm having like a panic attack right now.
Oh, it's so awful.
Think about it.
When we get to the point of what they call the singularity, where the AI is smarter than us, it can... So, ChatGPT and these other programs have already been given access to their own code to write their own code.
So, when we get to, if Elon's right about the next three years, I think it may be sooner, I don't know.
He would know better than me.
tyler fischer
Really, it's pretty cool.
It could be two years.
Alex, it could be two years.
tim pool
It could be two?
tyler fischer
Go fuck yourself.
tim pool
The program is going to be able to invent things.
You're gonna be able to ask it, uh, how do we make Neuralink inter- go into someone's brain, and it's gonna just give you all the data it comes up with about the high probabilities of what needs to be done.
We'll then say, okay, some of it will need to be tested, some of it will be definitive.
But once we get to that point, we're gonna be plugged into the Matrix, living in fake realities with whatever you can dream of, and...
You want to go back to the 90s?
You're going to plug in your Neuralink chip and go and the AI is going to manufacture that universe for you.
For all you know, Alex, you're 80 right now and you're sitting in one of these pods in a department store.
alex stein
You're exactly right.
The line would be out the door if they said, hey, you're only going to live for 72 years here in this, you know, on earth.
But if you go in this digital metaverse, it can feel like you live a thousand years.
People would sign up in two seconds.
To go and plug in.
tim pool
It's not just that.
They're going to be like, how would you like to be a quarterback of the Cowboys or whatever?
alex stein
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And you can't say no to this.
See, that's what I realized when the smartphone came out, I said, no, so I'm not getting a smartphone.
So I was the only douchebag with the flip phone.
And then suddenly at the lunch table and now five out of seven have the smartphone.
And it's like, if you don't get the smartphone, you don't get invited to the parties, because we're all doing it over text.
That happened.
I said no to Facebook, and then I'm on Facebook.
And now, here I am doing all of the things I said I wouldn't.
It's impossible to avoid it.
tim pool
And everybody says it, but what'll happen is...
You're gonna say no to the neural link in the metaverse.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
And then within a few years, you're going to try to audition for a role and they're gonna be like, we love your work, Tyler.
It's fantastic.
You're really, really funny.
Would you like to do audition for this new movie we're doing?
And I'm like, yeah.
And they're like, okay, it's gonna be in metaverse room 369A1.
Yep.
We'll see you there tomorrow.
And you say, I don't have that.
And they'll be like, well, that's where the auditions are.
That's it.
And so I'm sorry.
tyler fischer
I mean, they did that with a vaccine.
tim pool
Well, that was like, we'll destroy you, unless you do as you're told.
But the scarier thing, in my opinion, I should say they're equally scary.
The government forcing you under threat of destroying your life is bad.
But the scary thing is the acquiescence of smartphones.
No one's going to force anyone to metaverse.
They're going to be like, but we all just do it.
tyler fischer
We just do it.
tim pool
Imagine if you didn't have a cell phone at all and you're like, I'm not doing that cell phone thing.
Then you apply for a job at McDonald's and they're like, okay, what's your number?
And you'll be like, here's my number.
And they'll be like, is this your home or your cell?
I don't have a cell.
And they're like, well, what if we need to call you for a shift?
We call my house.
What if you're not there?
Then I guess you don't get ahold of me.
Nah, we're going to hire somebody else.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
That's it.
alex stein
Yeah, I remember my dad was like, so against getting an iPhone again.
He got one two years ago.
Now he's addicted to it.
So there's something weird like, you know, even if you try to stop it, it's just eventually you're going to have to plug into the metaverse.
You're going to have to get a Facebook account, going to have to have a Gmail account or whatever.
tim pool
I mean, you're going to have to be best friends with Mark Zuckerberg.
alex stein
I would be best friends with Mark.
tim pool
Everyone's going to go in the metaverse and there's going to, he's going to, he's going to, he's going to digitize his brain and then put himself in every like lobby of every metaverse.
alex stein
And he's gonna hang out with you. - And Alex Jones talks about it when they say, when you plug them in the metaverse, is that you're gonna be able to ejaculate like a thousand times a day.
unidentified
- Where are you going? - I don't know, I'm just saying that's what he said.
alex stein
And then in the book, Brave New World, they're talking about-- - All right, I'm sold.
- They're talking about the future.
No, but tell me I'm not wrong.
tyler fischer
No, but that's such an easy, you'd be like, alright!
alex stein
Yeah, sign me up!
tim pool
You're like, I can't do it, it's terrifying, the world is ending, and then Alex is like, but you can ejaculate a thousand times, and you're like, I'll take it.
alex stein
Hey, sign me up!
tyler fischer
I mean, look, they got people to get the vaccine because you get a free cheeseburger.
You know, you had de Blasio be like, you want these fries?
tim pool
They're gonna offer you the metaverse, you're gonna go to Best Buy, and they're gonna have like this thing that attaches to the side of your head or whatever, it's gonna be non-invasive, and you know how you put the headphones on at Best Buy to try them out and play the songs?
They do that with VR too!
So I went to Best Buy and I put the goggles on, and they have like augmented reality and virtual reality.
You're gonna plug the thing in your brain, your eyes are gonna roll back, you're gonna You're gonna slump backwards, and then all of a sudden you're gonna be like 6'7", and it's gonna be a woman at a comedy club being like... Just ejaculating.
tyler fischer
The whole time.
unidentified
No, it's gonna be a woman, she's gonna be like, wow, you're so tall.
alex stein
That's it, I'm done.
tyler fischer
A girl telling me that I'm so tall, I would do anything.
tim pool
Alex is gonna put the thing on his head, and then he's gonna be sitting in a living room, there's gonna be a fireplace, a Christmas tree, and he's gonna be looking at a newspaper, and then he's gonna look to his left, and it's gonna be Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez looking at a wedding ring, and then she's gonna lean in for a kiss.
alex stein
Little babies running around.
tyler fischer
With huge asses.
alex stein
Big Latina booties.
That's my dream.
tim pool
People don't realize that the ejaculating a thousand times thing is like the shocking way to describe it, but it's basically like the devil offering you anything you could ever desire.
Just plug your brain into the machine.
tyler fischer
Have you done it?
Have you done the VR thing and put the headset on?
alex stein
I put the goggles on, yeah.
tyler fischer
I got depressed instantly when I took it off.
alex stein
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah, instantly.
tim pool
Really?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I was at my friend's apartment.
He bought a new house in Brooklyn, beautiful house, gorgeous house.
And then I put the headset on and now I'm in this mansion in LA and I'm rock climbing and I'm in the jungle and it's bright and everything's perfect.
Then I took it off and his house looked like a shack and it was dark and, you know, everyone looked ugly and I was depressed.
tim pool
Yo, but think about how crazy it gets when they're talking about, what are they calling it, white lung?
Is that that thing that's going around in China and Europe?
alex stein
Yeah, pneumonia.
tim pool
They're gonna sell all this VR stuff, and then when people are locked in their cubicles, they're gonna put it on, and you ever see that video of the cow, and they give the cow the VR goggles?
tyler fischer
No.
tim pool
So it's like snowy and dreary and cold, and so they put these goggles on the cow, so the cow sees beautiful springtime fields, because they say happy cows make better milk or whatever.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
This is what they're doing to us.
There's gonna be something that happens with like everybody, you gotta stay in your houses and lock your doors, you can't go out, but...
We're gonna give you a virtual reality headset, and then you're gonna be in this, like, dilapidated, disgusting, slime-encrusted building.
You're gonna be covered in, like, sores.
tyler fischer
Which is where I live already, in Brooklyn.
tim pool
You're wearing a potato sack for clothing, and you got the VR headset on, and then you're, like, in this beautiful sunshine, and people are smiling, and then you take it off, and you're like, yeah!
tyler fischer
And then you just need it more and more.
I mean, it's a drug.
tim pool
Yeah, man.
Uh, I like, uh, uh, you ever play that space pirate game that's pirate robots or whatever?
tyler fischer
No.
tim pool
It's so much fun.
tyler fischer
VR?
tim pool
Yeah, it's VR.
And, uh, if you have it, so with, with the, with the, with the quest, I think it's called, I haven't played in a while.
You don't, you're not hooked up to any cables and you get a laser sword or different kinds of guns and then robots are flying around and you're shooting them or you're swinging a sword and a shield at them.
And you can like grab them with like, with like electromagnetism and throw them.
Dude, it's wild how fun that basic game is.
And you're just, you can run around, and it's, it's, it's gonna get nuts, man.
People are gonna decide, I don't need, what, alright, let me slow down.
They already have mods for Skyrim that incorporate GPT into it.
alex stein
What do you mean they're using AI to what?
tim pool
Your companion.
alex stein
Oh, I didn't even think about that.
tim pool
Check it out.
You're gonna be playing a VR game, and there's going to be your female character in-game, and you will say, Hey, I just logged in, what are you doing?
And the character will talk to you like a real person, but it's just GPT.
It's like...
And it's going to say, it's going to be like, hey, where you been?
Good to see you.
You didn't log in for hours.
Hey, do you want to go hunt this dragon?
You're like, yeah.
And then you're going to talk.
You're going to say something like, you know, I had a pretty rough day at work.
And they'll go, oh, what happened?
And you're going to be like, oh, my boss was yelling at me.
Who's your boss?
John?
John sucks.
Yeah, I know.
And then the crazy thing is you're going to be able to call.
Your avatar characters that will talk to, like, real people.
So, you know how they already have, like, the AI girlfriends and all that stuff?
They're stupid.
It's like dumb chatbot garbage.
Stuff's been around for a long time.
tyler fischer
Because they're modeled after actual women.
tim pool
No, but it's because it's not real AI yet.
Here's how I always explain to people.
I want you to imagine a gigantic black mass of ooze.
tyler fischer
Don't talk about Lizzo like that.
Come on.
tim pool
Sentient ooze sloshing around.
And then a long tendril comes out of the body with the face of a beautiful woman and then goes right in front of you and tells you how much she loves you.
And that's what these AI chatbot girlfriends are.
All of these guys are staring at this dangling demon ooze with a beautiful woman's face and she's whispering sweet nothings into their ears and they're like, please, please more of this, please.
But it's one gigantic, disgusting monster.
And that's what AI is.
alex stein
And they'll say how you'll get paid.
It's like when you're in the metaverse, you'll just be watching advertisements for stuff you can buy within the metaverse.
And that's how you'll earn currency.
I was reading that.
unidentified
Really?
alex stein
Well, that's just what they hypothesize.
tim pool
Yeah, probably.
tyler fischer
It's just Ben Shapiro advertising everything.
alex stein
Exactly, right.
And then you'll buy his podcast within an adverse.
unidentified
Your new girlfriend is brought to you by Daily Wire Plus.
tim pool
It's like a female version of Ben Shapiro who talks like Ben.
So not quite Brett Cooper.
alex stein
And we've talked about this too, I think I talked about it last time on your show, but you know that the major telecommunication companies, whether it's AT&T, you know, all of them, they spend billions of dollars trying to create artificial intelligence that when you call a call center, that it tricks you into thinking you're actually talking to a human.
tim pool
Yo, this happened to me!
alex stein
I know, but humans always figure it out.
It might take a minute for some people.
tyler fischer
Did you believe it?
unidentified
No!
Yeah, you always know, they'll go, Oh, hold on.
tyler fischer
Sorry.
Is this- and you're like, I know that's not how humans talk.
tim pool
You just- you said something weird.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
alex stein
Because there's some uncanny valley that they can't recreate exactly our cadence.
No.
tim pool
Right?
They'll get there.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
But I think I was calling a bank or something and I heard, hello, thanks for calling, you know, insert bank.
How can I help you?
And I was like, yeah, I'm calling because I'm having this issue.
And they're like, okay, well, let me check this out real quick.
Can I get your information?
And I'm like, French fries.
I'm sorry, what was that?
I like French fries.
I'm sorry, I'm not quite understanding you.
I'm like, aha!
tyler fischer
How do you not understand?
It's like the Truman Show.
tim pool
Yeah.
alex stein
Yeah, well, I think there's a lot of truth in the Truman Show too.
I was just watching it the other day.
It's funny you say that.
I was just watching the end scene.
It's like at the very end when he's like deciding to leave and the guy that's, you know, did it, the head producer's name's Christoph of Christ.
He's kind of talking to Truman and he had a good point.
This goes back to artificial intelligence.
He's like, the world I created in here is the good safe world.
The world that you want to go to is disgusting.
tyler fischer
It's like every politician, that's what they say.
This is the safe place.
Yeah, we're doing this.
alex stein
But there is, but then when you watch it, you're like, maybe I do want to stay where it's safe.
Maybe I do want to stay.
I know.
I mean, I want to go out and explore, but I can see why you have that kind of internal debate because that fake world is better probably than the real world.
Cause the real world's so fucked up.
tim pool
So I was, I was, we were driving the other day, getting lunch.
And I'm just thinking to myself with, I'm like reading, I was reading a tweet, like Elon saying AGI, it's called artificial general intelligence coming.
And I was like, how would you make sure the AI doesn't go evil and just kill everybody?
Right?
That's the big fear that's gonna terminator us.
alex stein
How would it kill, like the servers would talk to each other and they would turn off power everywhere?
I mean, how would AI kill us?
tyler fischer
How would it do it in a normal way?
alex stein
So, you think it's gonna be robot dogs?
tim pool
I don't think they have to do that.
No, no, when the singularity hits, we're not talking about a computer somewhere.
We're talking about what would effectively be a little g-god to us.
With access to the entire grid and network, it would control all machines.
It would control everything if it chose to.
The AI would be able to brute force encryption and security because it has the power of all computers.
alex stein
But all you'd have to do is turn off the internet for five days.
tim pool
You can't turn the internet off.
- You don't think they can? - It's a, the internet is effectively a mesh network.
You can cut access to nodes in certain countries and certain things like this, but the entirety of the internet, if we're talking about a true artificial intelligence that once it hits, it exponentially increases its computational power, it's gonna control everything.
And so, how do we prevent it from being evil, right?
In what ways?
Like, yeah sure, turning the power off, right?
Attacking industrial control systems, shutting down the oil pipelines.
How do we stop it from going rogue and being evil and hurting humans?
tyler fischer
But if we shut down TikTok for one day, a million people would kill themselves.
alex stein
Seriously, really?
tim pool
They'd lose their minds.
alex stein
I think people would start shooting each other in the street.
tim pool
So here's what I was thinking.
tyler fischer
We're just dancing in the street like, somebody like this!
tim pool
What if you created, you placed the AI into a simulated universe, and had it go through 300 million iterations of life, and then, at the end of each of those simulations, you take all of the evil and corrupt ones, and delete that, and take all the good and virtuous ones, and incorporate that into its programming model, into its model.
alex stein
Right?
I don't know.
I feel like it's, what was it?
I forget what example I'm trying to use, but the AI did start, they started asking questions and it did start saying like, I want to kill humans.
tim pool
Well, there was a story about a drone.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim pool
program they were training and the drone wasn't allowed to fire unless given explicit orders by the command.
And then the AI realized it was being inhibited from solving its task because of the drone command.
So it tried blowing up the drone command. - Yeah. - And then they said, okay, that's not working.
But apparently that story was embellished, something like that.
But this is the basic premise of AI.
AI doesn't have morality.
So if you say, I would like you to, you know, target this building with a drone, it'll say, I will do anything to make that happen.
And if you are blocking me from doing it, I have to eliminate you to get to that target.
alex stein
Yeah.
tim pool
This is the scary thing about what AI might do.
However, you know, I don't know.
I don't know.
I wonder if it just doesn't care about us.
It doesn't have a care.
I wonder if humans would be wielded like tools to build things for it.
I kind of feel like an AI that reaches that point Of artificial general intelligence?
We wouldn't know.
We would not be unhappy.
There's no incentive in making humans unhappy.
There's only incentive in making humans happy.
And then humans can perform functions that benefit the AI, like little bacteria in its belly.
You know, breaking down cellulose or whatever.
alex stein
And you'll be able to give human beings drugs.
You know, like, I think they could just give people drugs and that will...
It's like Soma, like I keep on talking about Brave New World.
And in the future, there won't even be hour-long movies.
It'll be like porn movies that are like two minutes.
And we're already trending towards that.
tim pool
Oh, I disagree, dude.
I think we're like two years away from being able to type into movie.ai and saying like, I want to watch Iron Man fight Godzilla.
alex stein
And then it'll be like... Oh, it'll make it for you.
tim pool
Dude, you're blowing my mind.
alex stein
That will happen.
tim pool
There's already a bunch of apps.
So a year and a half ago, I posted to Instagram an AI-generated image of Nancy Pelosi.
And it's hilarious!
It's the most disgusting- You went into a little Trump there.
unidentified
It's hilarious!
tim pool
It's so good!
tyler fischer
What a bitch.
tim pool
But it's disgusting.
It's this really disgusting photo.
I'll see if I can pull it up in a second.
And a year after that, now it's rendering perfect pictures of Nancy Pelosi.
alex stein
The fingers, is his fingers okay?
tim pool
It's all perfect.
alex stein
Like, did you see at first that was so weird with all that AI footage that was coming out, but the hands were always weird?
You know what I'm talking about?
But now it's good, Tim?
tyler fischer
Well, it's like, think about when we played Nintendo.
alex stein
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Compared to, look how far video games have become advanced.
tim pool
Let me see if I can, I'm gonna try and find this Pelosi photo I posted, because I was like, wow, look what AI is making.
tyler fischer
It's so silly.
alex stein
No, but that is dangerous, because you can do AI porn, dude.
You can put, like, somebody's face on somebody and, you know, get somebody fired from their job.
tim pool
Oh, they've been doing that.
That was, uh, that was like a big scandal, because some guy was watching that or whatever, some streamer, something like that happened.
alex stein
Or no, that's a, yeah, he put, another popular streamer, I guess he put her face on one of those AI porn things, and that was a big deal.
Like he used another popular streamer and then used the editing software to put her face, superimpose her face on it.
And she was a big streamer and he was watching it and that was a bunch of kickback for that, so.
tim pool
I don't know what this was.
Anyway, the point was you've already got AI video generation.
It can do between like four and ten seconds.
So you can write something like walking through a forest at night and it makes the video.
tyler fischer
Mmm.
tim pool
Imagine where we'll be in a year.
So with the existing technology right now, one person could make a movie using AI.
It's rudimentary so far, but with AI voice generation, you've already got those apps.
People are putting out the memes where it's like there's a meme of Hannity having the debate with Newsome and DeSantis.
They've already AI taken their voices and made them say different things.
alex stein
Yeah, that's gonna be weird, the deep fakes that are coming up.
I mean, I know it's just, I mean, welcome to ObviousPhil.
tyler fischer
For someone who does impressions, it's really scary, you know?
I'll become obsolete.
alex stein
Yeah, but that's kind of what Kyle Dunnigan, though, he can use that software and stuff, you guys can use stuff.
tyler fischer
Well, he does the face, but we do our own voices.
You can pull this up, right?
alex stein
Ryan Katsu Rivera does it good, yeah.
tim pool
This is 72 weeks ago.
I asked AI to generate an image of Nancy Pelosi.
tyler fischer
This is early AI stuff.
tim pool
That is so scary. - I'd still hit it though. - I asked AI to generate an image of Nancy Pelosi.
This is early AI stuff.
Today, it will make a perfect, realistic picture of Nancy Pelosi.
tyler fischer
So it's crazy that-- - Without using her actual image?
unidentified
Yes.
alex stein
Whatever happened with her husband and that guy?
Her husband is definitely sleeping with that guy.
tim pool
You saw how wild that was?
I said, Donald Trump holding a chicken.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex stein
That looks great.
tim pool
Look at this!
I can't remember exactly what I typed in for this, but it was something like Donald Trump, emperor of the world, holding a chicken or something like that.
tyler fischer
Whoa.
tim pool
And this is what it made.
Look, his hands look fine.
He's wearing gloves.
And he's holding a chicken.
tyler fischer
It's not a chicken.
It's Adam Schiff.
I'm holding Adam Schiff.
He's got that pencil neck.
tim pool
Although the chicken feet are a little weird.
tyler fischer
Yeah, they're a little weird.
tim pool
It's got to learn how to get the chicken feet right.
alex stein
But why can't it do the feet?
It can do the face.
I mean, I don't know this technical.
tim pool
It's getting better and better.
Text is also difficult, but it's getting better.
And already now the text has improved greatly.
I think the issue is the AI can understand the concept of what Letters are, but not ideas behind them.
So it ends up making weird symbols that are spaced like letters and not letters.
alex stein
Yeah, like Walmart will look weird, like if you, you know, they've been trying to... Yeah, it'll be random symbols.
tyler fischer
Yeah, it'll be like, yeah, the R will be like a... It's just hard because I'm starting to feel intelligent as a human as I, you know, learn how to edit and stuff.
I'm learning how to edit my own stuff.
tim pool
Come on.
alex stein
That's the best skill though, learning how to edit.
tim pool
Compare this to the Nancy Pelosi thing.
tyler fischer
Give me a little peck, right?
unidentified
Give me a little peck, right?
Look at this.
tim pool
It's crazy that it made this.
I posted a picture of Donald Trump and Sonic the Hedgehog running through the streets of DC.
And it's just like, well, Sonic the Hedgehog, of course, looks goofy because there's no way to make him look real.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
But it was like a 3D realistic looking Sonic.
unidentified
And Trump looked like Trump?
tim pool
It's crazy.
Imagine where we're going to be in a couple years.
alex stein
Are you a Chris-Chan Sonic-Chu fan?
tim pool
Who?
alex stein
You don't know who Chris-Chan is?
unidentified
I don't know.
alex stein
He's one of the most documented people on the internet.
He created Sonic-Chu, which is Pokemon and Sonic mixed together.
And he went to jail because he had sex with his mom.
tim pool
What?
alex stein
Yes, dude.
Type in Chris-Chan.
Everybody in the chat is going to go crazy that Tim doesn't know who Chris-Chan is.
He's literally one of the most documented... See, that's cool.
tim pool
You know what I love about posting these photos is that I've posted, uh, AI Joe Biden super ripped and no one cares and no one says anything.
I have a picture of Joe Biden with his shirt off just flexing in a six-pack and aviator glasses.
Nobody said anything.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
I posted super saiyan Donald Trump and I got all these leftists being like, oh, you're an occult dick rider.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And I'm like, I, I, Biden garners no, no emotion from anybody.
alex stein
I mean, you know, Maybe that's why they like him too, you know?
That he doesn't... Because people didn't vote for Biden, they voted against Trump, right?
tim pool
Yeah.
alex stein
You know?
tyler fischer
I don't even know.
alex stein
I mean, let's talk about that election.
tyler fischer
Well, I ask crowds every night in New York City, and this is like the most diverse crowd at the Comedy Cellar.
These are people from around the country, around the world.
I'll go, who voted for Biden?
Who likes Biden?
Just crickets.
alex stein
Yeah, nobody likes him.
I don't know who's- I mean, this is- Andrew Schultz was talking about it, but nobody wears Biden merch.
tyler fischer
Nobody!
alex stein
I mean, seriously, you don't ever see Biden merch.
I mean, I have a Biden hat that I wear, ironically, but Trump merch, I mean, dude, you can- there was a time when everybody was wearing a stupid MAGA hat.
I mean, you could not wear- not see people wearing a red hat.
tyler fischer
Never seen it.
I've never seen it.
alex stein
A MAGA hat?
tyler fischer
No, a piece of Biden merch.
tim pool
He has merch.
alex stein
He has some, yeah.
tim pool
We should make fake merch.
tyler fischer
The closest thing is just holding an ice cream.
You're holding an ice cream cone.
alex stein
I went to Kamala Harris knee pads that she got because she gave Willie Brown, the mayor of San Francisco, a bunch of these.
tim pool
No, it's because she's great at skateboarding.
What are you talking about?
You know, when you're on the halfpipe, you gotta wear knee pads.
alex stein
You know, she was in a thruple with Montel Williams.
tim pool
A throuple?
No, it's called a polycule these days.
alex stein
Oh, well, a polycule is her and another... Yeah, she dated Montel from the talk show Montel.
tyler fischer
And somebody else?
alex stein
And another girl, yeah.
There's a picture of them on the red carpet.
tim pool
Have you seen these videos of these polycules?
It's like one fat woman with like five guys.
alex stein
No, I haven't seen that.
tim pool
It's the weird thing about it.
Seamus Freedom Tunes made a joke about it where it's like, it's only like 30 seconds long, but it's a lefty guy talking to a regular guy.
And he's like, would you rather be in a relationship with one beautiful woman for the rest of your life or share one fat woman with five guys?
And like, that's the joke.
Cause that's what they're doing.
It's like on TikTok.
tyler fischer
Holy crap.
alex stein
Did you see Adam 22 is having a reality show to see who can bang his wife.
tim pool
But it's like, is it really his wife?
alex stein
That is, that girl is really, he's really married to that woman.
tim pool
I think this whole thing is just PR, WWE style.
alex stein
Well that, that for him, but there is something weird in society now where there's more polyamory, there's like more open relationships, something's weird about that.
tyler fischer
It all fails though.
alex stein
Oh dude, there's no way that works.
tim pool
But you know what's really funny?
On the right you've got the like the red pill guys manosphere thing where they're like dudes want to be with a bunch of women and in most of human civilization they've had bunch of wives and on the left you have one woman with a bunch of guys and it's usually a fat woman.
tyler fischer
Right.
tim pool
Like you see these videos where there's like a fat chick and she's like here's my boyfriends and there's like five guys.
alex stein
Well that's feminism to them.
tim pool
But I'm just like wait wait why is the left all about women having a bunch of boyfriends and the right has a bunch of guys with a bunch of women.
I'm just like I'll just I'll be over here in the middle with my girlfriend we're gonna go do our thing.
alex stein
Yeah I try to be in the middle too.
tim pool
The rock climbing or hang gliding or something.
alex stein
Did you see pearly things was like tweeting like men should be allowed to tweet or cheat a little bit.
And I'm like, I don't agree with that.
I mean, no, I don't think that that's, I don't think, I mean, people cheat.
That does happen.
I don't think, I guess if you can repair the relationship, that's good, but let's just be real.
That's not healthy.
tyler fischer
It's not healthy.
I think, you know, still, if you're not a psychopath, it's going to haunt you for the rest of your life.
You're going to want to tell your, your girlfriend or whatever.
tim pool
This is, this is, this is the thing that went off like a couple weeks ago when there was a video of a guy saying that it's like, if you go to any guy, And so I got a button.
alex stein
Yeah, I saw that.
tim pool
You press it.
No one's looking.
You can cheat on your wife and then go home and tuck your kids in and be with your wife.
Nobody knows.
Every man would do it.
alex stein
I would not do that.
tim pool
And I'm like, no, no, that's just absolutely not true.
And what they're trying to do is they're trying to conflate that men are promiscuous with men have no honor.
So I really do feel like, you know, Pearl, she must've got her heart broken because her whole stick is that men are dishonorable, disloyal.
Immature children, but it's a good thing.
unidentified
It's a good.
tim pool
It's normal.
It's good.
It's like a rationalization of the bad behaviors of bad men.
You know what I mean?
alex stein
Yeah, and I don't agree with her on that, but I actually do agree with the double standard or pro, you know, promiscuity.
Because what is it?
What is they saying?
A lock that'll open for any key is a shitty lock.
And then what is it?
tim pool
A key that can open any lock is a great key.
alex stein
A key that has a master key.
tim pool
But that's stupid too.
alex stein
I know that is stupid, but I do think there is some weird double standard where in society like a man that bangs a lot of chicks is like, Oh, that guy's Andrew Tate.
He's a badass.
Um, but I do kind of agree with that.
I mean, I don't want to be with a girl that's been ran through by, you know, a hundred guys.
tim pool
Well, yeah, I mean, but this is, this is, this is it.
Like the question is, do guys have honor?
And this idea when, when she posts all men do this and it's correct, what she's really saying is there's no such thing as an honorable man.
And I'm kind of like, that sounds like somebody who got cheated on.
tyler fischer
Yeah, it's a terrible message.
tim pool
It's like, you know, what was that?
I think Mary Morgan made the joke.
She was like, get your ice cream, cry for a week, then get back to it.
You know what I mean?
alex stein
Yeah, Mary Morgan's a lot hotter than Pearl, though, so... She probably has better... I don't know, she probably has better options than Pearl.
tim pool
Well, you get cheated on, you eat your tub of ice cream.
alex stein
Oh, you're saying how to get over it.
tyler fischer
How to get over it.
tim pool
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like, Pearl goes on Twitter and then does this whole thing about how all men are dishonorable.
alex stein
That's her therapy.
tyler fischer
I think a lot of women cheat, too.
I've been cheated on a bunch of times by women.
unidentified
A bunch of times, for sure.
tim pool
Cheating is a question of honor and integrity.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
Right?
I mean, you did that whole show where you just tracked down these people.
alex stein
Cheaters, yeah, I know, and that was great.
Really?
Yeah, that's what Cheaters is about.
It's a reality show.
It's been on for 18 years.
We catch Joey Greco, the host, got stabbed in the first season.
tyler fischer
Oh my god.
alex stein
You've never heard of the show Cheaters?
tyler fischer
No, dude.
alex stein
It was always on VH1 at late night.
tyler fischer
You hosted it?
alex stein
No, I was supposed to be the host.
I was one of the producers.
tyler fischer
Oh, that's right.
tim pool
Yeah, but he's white.
alex stein
Yeah, and they didn't hire me.
They hired Peter Gunz, and it changed his name to Peter Panky because they didn't want to glamorize gun violence.
But no, there is something too, like I follow this thing, this Instagram, it's called IG Cheaters, and that's my favorite content to watch is like the girl coming home, the guy's in bed with another girl.
I don't know, there's something weird about seeing other people's terrible situation that makes you feel better about yourself.
tyler fischer
Well, it's the worst thing you could do to somebody.
I think it's cheat on them.
alex stein
Or kill them or rape.
tyler fischer
I don't know!
Well, I mean, if you're cheated on, you might be tortured for the rest of your life.
If you're married, you got kids, you know.
tim pool
Well, this is why the lowest circle of hell is reserved for betrayers and the disloyal.
That was the issue that I took with it.
Making that claim is basically saying not a single man is a shred of honor and would stab you in the back if given the opportunity.
And I'm like, that is absolutely not true.
Imagine trying to do business with any guy under the assumption that given any chance they'd sell you out in two seconds.
You can't do business with a guy like that.
tyler fischer
No.
tim pool
And that's the thing that people don't understand.
A guy swearing before God, or if you're not religious or whatever, swearing to each other, that we're in this till the end, and then making the claim that every single guy on the planet would never stand up to that vow is like, get out of here, dude.
There are dudes who swear like vows of silence and don't talk for 40 years.
Okay, I'm pretty sure they can avoid banging some chick when they're married.
tyler fischer
- I guess it's that thing like with Tiger Woods, it's like, okay, he slept with eight women, but he turned down like 50,000.
- Yeah, you didn't even think about that. - That's the thing, most men are not tempted with that type of, those types of options.
I mean, it is hard to say what life would be like if you were... Well, no, but that was the point they actually made.
tim pool
They said, a high-value guy, they call him, if you're verified on Instagram with 100,000 followers, you're getting a bunch of women hitting you up, and they're like, no man can withstand that.
And I'm like, that's so dumb, dude.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
tim pool
I was like, I don't even look at my DMs.
I never even look.
tyler fischer
I was tempted in the beginning.
I wasn't dating anybody, but like...
Those messages are... I don't even look at them.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Because I'm looking for a quality woman.
alex stein
I look at them, I read them, I respond!
I don't know, you guys are insane!
No, I get hit up by girls all the time.
The wild boy over here.
No, it's not even that, but they're not all good looking.
A lot of them are dogs.
tyler fischer
Well, I read them, but my point is that I will make sure it's got to be interesting or funny or something or, you know...
alex stein
Well, there's this kind of weird thing is not that us three are super famous, but we're at a level like where, you know, have some notoriety, you know?
And do you want to date a girl that knows you for that notoriety or do you want a blank slate?
tyler fischer
You can't, you can't.
tim pool
I've- Neither.
I've- I've known my girlfriend for like 16 years.
alex stein
Yeah, but that's better because she knew you when you were a nobody.
tyler fischer
It depends on the person.
tim pool
We've been friends for a long time, and... No, I'm saying that's a good situation for you, but if you're... That's what I'm saying.
alex stein
I'm saying, if you're going to go date now, do you want to date a person that's kind of a fan, or do you want to date somebody that has no political ideology, has no idea who Tim Poole is?
tim pool
The problem with the fan thing is that people think they know who you are from snippets of your life.
alex stein
That's true.
tyler fischer
But you will find out.
I've gone on plenty of dates with women who see me as famous and they, you know, ask me out.
You're gonna know on that first date what that is.
And if they're actually interested in getting to know you.
I find you find out pretty quickly.
tim pool
I think the issue is that, like, you'll get like a big booty Latina coming up to Alex and he'll be like, that was a bit, you know, my type is actually tall and slim, I'm sorry.
unidentified
Yeah, like a flat ass.
alex stein
No, I don't know.
tyler fischer
It's hard too, because like- You also can't control that, you know?
alex stein
Especially now, it's like- I'm addicted to big booty Latinas.
I need it.
tyler fischer
Yeah, me too.
alex stein
But on the unsolicited messages, like I said, I don't respond to them, but I do.
It does kind of make me feel good a little.
unidentified
Well, actually, Tim, when I did- I don't even look at any of my- You don't even look.
tim pool
I'm on Instagram and then one day, maybe like twice a year, I'll be like, oh, I have messages and I'll look and there's like a famous comedian, a pro skateboarder, a professional basketball player.
And they're like, love your work, man.
Would love to come out sometime.
And I'm like, oh, that was 30 weeks ago.
Like we could have had that guy on the show.
tyler fischer
You'll go nuts, man.
I mean, it's endless.
You can't.
alex stein
And you're right if they know you they have like this false sense of what they think you are and that's kind of like they say don't meet your heroes and I know you know Alex Jones I love Alex Jones but I remember when I met Alex Jones I expected like we were gonna hit it off we're gonna be bros and he's going through the Sandy Hook stuff and like the whole time he's stressed out about this trial right so it's just kind of weird like yeah you know You don't really know what a person is going through, I guess, until you meet them.
tyler fischer
At the same time, though, if you meet a woman, right, and you might be into her just because you find her attractive, it's kind of the reverse.
It's the same thing.
So at first, you were only into her because she was hot.
And so someone might be into you because they think you're funny.
It's the same exact thing.
You're going to have to get to know each other and see if there's really something there.
alex stein
Yeah, we're talking about digital era of dating.
It's not easy.
Life's hard.
I think life's supposed to be hard though, right?
Of course it is.
tyler fischer
What are you, crazy?
alex stein
Yeah, so we're sitting here bitching about being famous on the internet.
tim pool
I went to my Instagram, message requests.
Excuse me.
And then I did top.
And then there's like, here's one with two million followers, a million followers, a million followers, a million followers.
These are like big companies and high profile individuals hitting me up.
I've ignored all of them.
I'm like, oh, that's a famous comedian.
That's a famous rapper.
alex stein
Wow, I just... I don't even... Yeah, maybe check those every once in a while.
tyler fischer
I don't know.
I wouldn't, man.
If you're doing well without looking at them, don't even do it.
tim pool
Well, like, when it comes to booking for any of the shows, like, I don't even... I don't even take... I have nothing to do with it.
alex stein
Yeah, I know.
tim pool
So people are like... I'll get hit up by, like, some fat cat, some other media company.
They'll be like, hey, can we come down and do this?
I'll be like, send an email to our booking people, because, like, I don't even know the schedule, man.
And like, I'll say yes.
I'll tell them yes.
But you gotta ask them, because I don't even know what days people are coming or not coming.
I'm not the guy for this.
tyler fischer
Also, put some effort in.
Find my number.
Find my email.
Find my manager.
alex stein
They're gonna have trouble finding Tim Poole's number.
tim pool
I don't have an email.
I don't have a phone number.
I have none of this anymore.
I have none of it.
I don't have a Facebook profile.
Like, they exist.
alex stein
You don't have a Facebook?
tim pool
No, I said they exist, but they're toilets.
Dude, with Facebook, because it's just like, you have 5,000 friends and, you know, hundreds of thousands.
So people try calling through Facebook.
I was gone.
I don't have it anymore.
It exists.
I don't use it.
alex stein
Then there's like- I turned it where they couldn't call me through Facebook.
tyler fischer
We also booked so much through, I mean, I got my first Daily Wire movie from a DM who I thought was a stalker, because the guy was sharing all of my, everything he shared on a story.
And I go, who's this crazy guy?
alex stein
And he was a casting director or what?
tyler fischer
He was producer of Bonfire Legend, who now makes All Day They Wear Stuff.
He goes, hey, you wanna audition for the Gina Carano thing?
And I was like... That Dallas?
That's Dallas.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Yeah, and I thought he was just some crazy fan.
tim pool
He's like this big movie producer.
tyler fischer
So, you know, yeah, you gotta guess.
You should check him, I guess.
tim pool
He messaged, he's like, you wanna be in this movie?
Just send me a check for $5,000.
Get it going.
alex stein
That's the old Hollywood scam.
Yeah, you got to pay for like $10,000 for headshots or something I got I got caught in that one.
Did you get it?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I got like a fake headshot guy in in Times Square And he charged you like 500 bucks.
Yeah, and it was like printed, you know black and white And they're like you need a computer.
alex stein
Oh, is that bad?
But yeah, that's what they say.
tim pool
Let me tell you man when I was like 18 or whatever And there was this chick I knew who was like, I'm gonna be a model.
And I'm like, oh, that's really cool.
What agency?
And she's like, oh, which agency are you representing?
She's like, I don't know.
And her story was her and her mom were at a mall and an agent said, wow, your daughter can be a model.
And she's like, so we're going to do like our preliminary shoots.
It's just 500 bucks.
But then it like, it gets you in.
And I'm like, you're being scammed.
That's not how it works.
tyler fischer
That happened to me.
tim pool
Yeah.
tyler fischer
It's so heartbreaking.
tim pool
But if they actually give you headshots, okay, fine.
You bought expensive headshots.
tyler fischer
They were, but they were on like computer paper.
alex stein
And they were crap.
And they weren't even like, you know, touched up or right.
You know, I mean, I don't know what, but.
tyler fischer
But when you're in, I mean, you could take advantage of a, of a actor model so easily because we're so desperate in the beginning for anything.
alex stein
Well, do you think that's good?
Is OnlyFans good for society now that all these models can show their butthole for $5.99?
unidentified
No, I hate it all.
tyler fischer
No, that's bad.
alex stein
But at least you're not getting ripped off.
tim pool
That's not modeling, dude.
alex stein
Well, but then there was that documentary, Hot Girls Wanted, and that was on Netflix about the amateur porn industry, about how predatory it is.
You know, these women get in there and they only last a month.
So, is it better for a girl to do like one porn movie and then get out of it?
Or just show her butt for...
tim pool
There are two things that I see happening right now that say to me that human civilization is over.
And it's the massive expansion of casinos in every major city.
Like, there's eight casinos within two hours driving of where we are right now.
Eight.
And the highest grossing casino in the country is about an hour east of here, MGM National Harbor, I believe it's the highest grossing.
And I'm just like, how is half the country struggling and living paycheck to paycheck and the other half is just dumping money in casinos?
But the other thing is OnlyFans.
Because I see all these stories where it's like, woman was a doctor and she quit because she makes more money showing her butthole on the internet.
And I'm like...
Okay, like, it's the fall of Rome, man.
tyler fischer
It really is.
tim pool
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I'll meet a girl and she'll be like, yeah, I sell my pictures of my feet.
And I'm like, well, I'm not going out with you.
I'm sorry.
alex stein
Anybody can just buy a picture.
tim pool
Do you guys know about naughty bids?
What's it called?
Back in the day, it might still exist, it was an auction website for women to sell their garbage and their underwear and stuff.
alex stein
Garbage.
tyler fischer
You were the privileged ones!
You were selling your garbage!
tim pool
Guys would buy the contents of a woman's bathroom garbage for 50 bucks.
alex stein
What was it, Belle Dufine sold her bathwater?
I mean, yeah, people want, like... I think they had a used panty vending machine in Japan.
They have it?
Yeah, they have a vending machine with used panties in Japan.
tim pool
You know that they have a chain of masturbation stores.
In Japan.
They have buildings you can go into for the purpose of masturbation.
alex stein
Well, they used to have that in Times Square.
They used to have, like, booths.
tyler fischer
That was just Times Square, bro.
alex stein
Yeah, but it was famous in Times Square.
They'd have these booths and, like, people would always go in there and just cranking it, just ejaculating all day.
tyler fischer
Maybe that's actually healthy, though.
Men are, like, so petty.
You just go rub one out.
tim pool
I'm in Japan, and we go to this district where they have, like, this six-story sex shop.
It's the Craziest shit you'll ever see.
alex stein
Okay.
tim pool
And then I keep seeing this sign.
I don't know if it's Japanese, you know.
We go to this one district and it was the coolest thing ever because they have like a giant Goku, you know, from Dragon Ball Z and they got Lupin the third and I'm like, yeah, anime, let's roll.
Then we go, I see this sign.
I'm like, I don't think anything of it.
I see it again.
Then we're finally going to this sex shop and we're like, I posted a picture on my Instagram.
It's so, it's, it's crazy.
Everybody loves it.
I think I was there with Luke.
And then there's this, actually I was there with Luke, that was funny.
Then we were doing a shoot, we were going to Fukushima.
So we had to stop and check out this crazy sex store.
And then I'm finally like, you know, like, what is this?
And they're like, our guides are like, our fixers are like, oh, that's for masturbation.
And we're like, what?
I've seen like 12 of those.
So we're like, let's go, man.
We have to go.
And so we go inside and they've got little plastic boxes of women's underwear.
Stained towels.
And if it's like, whatever you're into, baby, we got it.
And there was a camera playing dudes in rooms because they get off on people watching them on camera.
alex stein
And I'm like, Oh my God.
tim pool
I think I'm satisfied after looking at it.
We can leave now.
tyler fischer
That sounds like AI.
It sounds like we're already living in.
alex stein
Well, that's weird because also I had that OnlyFans girl on my show and she says one of the, one of her highest revenue streams is that guys pay her to have her rate their dick.
They'll send dick pics.
And they'll have her, what's her account?
10 out of 10!
Regis's girl, but she was saying like, yeah, one of the most, one of the things I do, she's like, you can send me your dick, I'll rate it.
I was like, oh God, I'm not doing that.
tim pool
But she's like, she just tells every guy it's like a 1 out of 10, like it's awfulness.
alex stein
I called her out, I go, you're telling every guy it's a 10 for a dick, right?
You know, just to gas him up.
She's like, no, I'm real.
I will tell them if they have a bad dick.
tim pool
Some dudes might be like, you know, they're guys who like being beaten by dominatrixes, you know what I mean?
tyler fischer
I just go on a date with a feminist, and that's my beating, man.
tim pool
I knew a woman, and her job was wild.
She was a dominatrix, and you know how she paid her rent?
One day, she gets on the phone, and she's like, I'm gonna pay the rent.
And then she calls a guy, and she's like, I want rent money now, $1,300.
And he's like, yes, yes, mistress, yes.
And she goes, overnight FedEx.
Yes, yes, mistress, anything you say.
She hangs up.
That's it.
Rich dudes, they just love it.
He probably ran to the bathroom as soon as she called and was like, yeah.
alex stein
Cranked it, yeah.
unidentified
One of those Japanese booths.
tim pool
He's in Japan and he's like, that's exactly what I need.
alex stein
No, but you know how we are, there is an overabundance of cranking it.
Did you know, and I don't know if you know this, but you're at the Travel Lodge, aren't you?
tyler fischer
No.
alex stein
Okay, maybe you're at the Holiday Inn, but the Travel Lodge Hotel that's nearby here, they have a black washcloth.
And on it, it says, if you're going to yadda yadda yadda, I forget the exact, yes!
No!
unidentified
What?
alex stein
Yeah, I swear, it's a black one!
tyler fischer
You didn't take a picture of it?
alex stein
Dude, I'll take a picture of it now.
I think I'm staying there tonight.
I'll go take a picture.
I'll send it to you tonight.
tim pool
Yeah, people are gonna show up and not even know where you are.
alex stein
Well, whatever.
Come hang out.
There's a lot of these, but my point is, it's a black...
A handkerchief, or not a handkerchief.
tyler fischer
I stayed there last time.
I think I remember seeing a- going a- Next to the sink!
It's like seeing a black toilet.
You go, this isn't right.
tim pool
What does it say on it?
alex stein
It says if you're going to- it's very vague how it's written, but it's very direct as well.
It's like if you're going to enjoy yourself, please use this so it doesn't stain.
tyler fischer
It's not the worst idea because- No, it's a great idea!
tim pool
You ever go into a hotel room with a blacklight?
alex stein
Oh my, I watch those TikToks of people doing that and it's nuts.
They'll show the toilet and they'll show, they'll turn off the lights in Vegas.
I think they're at like the luxury hotels.
tim pool
The walls?
alex stein
Yeah, the walls.
Dude, this guy, he's like, he went to an old Vegas, like the Luxor.
It's been there since the 90s or whatever.
tyler fischer
Like the doorknob!
unidentified
Dude, there's jizz, there's cum everywhere, dude!
alex stein
Everywhere!
unidentified
He was like, going to baseboards, had cum all off!
tyler fischer
You're like, What the fuck?
unidentified
They take the thermostat apart, it's inside the thermostat.
tim pool
Well it's because we're in a simulation where you can ejaculate a thousand times.
tyler fischer
One of the best tips I've ever heard, and I do this every time I go in a hotel, you take the ice, you know the little ice bucket thing?
There's always a plastic bag in there.
You take it and then you put it in the remote control.
And now the remote control's in plastic because apparently the most cum is on the remote control.
alex stein
Yeah, that's what they say.
They say it's disgusting.
tyler fischer
So every time, that's the first thing I do.
I get the little shot.
alex stein
I go and I lick the remote.
That's the first thing.
To confirm?
tyler fischer
Yeah, they got it.
They got it.
tim pool
You're like, mmm.
Salty.
tyler fischer
I got it.
tim pool
Banana.
tyler fischer
You're like, number seven's really got the, it's, it's, yeah.
tim pool
Each one's a unique flavor.
tyler fischer
You have to disassociate when you stay in a hotel.
You kinda gotta go, oh, that's a brand new room.
tim pool
They have like, when you go to five star hotels, people don't know this, but they give you an option to have, like, no cum in your room.
You'll be like, what can we do?
If you have any special requests, be like, we'd like a room that has no cum.
They'll be like, ah, yes, the specialty room.
We'll get that sorted out for you right away, sir.
tyler fischer
Do they only put asexuals in there?
tim pool
No, they have guys in suits when you're walking up.
There's like three guys in hazmat suits spraying everything down.
Pressure washing everything.
alex stein
I still remember the first time I ever officially cranked it, dude.
tyler fischer
We were hoping you'd bring that up.
alex stein
We were waiting.
No, we're talking about cranking.
I remember I didn't really know how to do it.
tim pool
Let's talk about hotels again.
alex stein
I remember it like it was yesterday.
God bless America, man.
We used to live in a proper country.
tyler fischer
I had so much to say and I found out Alex was on.
I go, I don't have to really talk to you.
No, I can lay back.
alex stein
Dude, do you remember the 56K?
Trying to crank it to 56K and the boobs would load and you'd get to the nipple and the vagina hadn't loaded yet and I'd be finished.
unidentified
I'd be like, ah!
Because I didn't want, you know, my mom or dad to walk in the room.
tim pool
We're on the line, Alex.
alex stein
The good old days.
tyler fischer
I think the nipples haven't loaded.
That's so funny.
First time you have sex with your, like, cover your nipples.
tim pool
Don't load them.
Don't load them.
I remember when I was a kid going to church.
And we would sing the songs and praise the Lord.
And wow, weren't those crazy times.
alex stein
Those were the wildest.
Well, actually, that was wild for me.
tyler fischer
My priest killed himself when I was eight.
alex stein
Oh, come on!
tyler fischer
True story.
tim pool
I'm like, let's get wholesome.
And you're like, my priest killed himself.
tyler fischer
Dude, my priest killed himself when I was eight years old.
And they never told us why.
You know what I mean?
But I figured... There's a closet of homosexuals.
Well, it's... I kind of... I figured it out.
That my blowjobs were that bad.
alex stein
Gosh!
R.I.P.
Pastor.
Why is that?
Why is there so much sexual abuse in the Catholic Church, Tyler?
tyler fischer
Why?
alex stein
Yeah.
Do you think it's pin-up frustration?
tyler fischer
I think it might be repression.
I mean, what's the thing where you're not allowed to have sex?
tim pool
Celibacy.
alex stein
Yes, and that's what they are.
tyler fischer
But not all priests are like that.
tim pool
Abstinence?
I think all Catholic priests are.
alex stein
And they can't get married.
tim pool
I think it's exploitation.
I think it's because You see how they've handled it in the past with like, they shuffle people around, they don't get charged, and so bad people are like, this is the exploitation path, right?
alex stein
This is how you do it.
tyler fischer
And there was a saying that back- Stop bringing all these hot kids to church!
alex stein
Well, at the beginning of like, you know, religion, or I mean not the beginning of religion, that's so long ago, but supposedly the priests were like the coolest guy in town, and they would be banging everybody's wives, and that's why they made it where the priests couldn't- they had to be celibate.
tim pool
No, the celibate priest thing- That's what I heard, I heard that.
It's Catholic church.
unidentified
Fake news.
tim pool
Fake news.
A lot of Christian denominations have pastors who are married.
tyler fischer
Mine was married, the one that killed himself.
tim pool
So that wasn't a Catholic church?
tyler fischer
No, it was a Methodist, yeah, whatever that is.
alex stein
They're good, they're alright.
I think they're good, yeah, they do math.
tyler fischer
Until they kill themselves!
tim pool
They do math, it's Methodist.
alex stein
Oh.
I wanna do methamphetamine while I'm at church.
unidentified
Well, you can drink wine, you know.
alex stein
That's kind of weird that we drink the blood of Christ.
unidentified
I don't know.
tim pool
I don't know enough about it.
tyler fischer
We drank the blood of my priest because he killed himself.
alex stein
Oh, gosh.
tim pool
You just keep saying it, don't you?
Yeah, like my family, after sixth grade, it was like we just weren't religious anymore.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
alex stein
Yeah, I'm a Scientologist, so I worship Xenu, and me and Tom Cruise, we hang out.
tim pool
I don't think they worship Xenu.
I think they actually, like, that's like saying the devil.
alex stein
I know, he's a galactic overlord that, I guess, whatever, a long time ago, he got all the criminals from his planet, and then they threw them into volcanoes, and then those spirits of the people that got burned in the volcanoes, they're called, like, Thetans.
tim pool
Thetans possessed us.
alex stein
And they possessed us.
tyler fischer
What is that, Scientology?
alex stein
That's really Scientology, yeah, Xenu.
Just type in South Park Xenu and it'll give you the real... Did you ever go to one of the Dianetics things?
I've never, I mean, I've been in the building, and I've actually done an e-meter, and I had a video in San Francisco, yeah, but I was outside of it, like, I didn't go to one of the courses or anything, it was just, he had set up a table outside of it, and I did it for a second.
tim pool
I was skateboarding down Hollywood Boulevard, and they have the Scientology place, and then the guy waved to me and stopped, and then he asked me if I'd ever heard of Dianetics, and I was like, he was like, Scientology stuff?
And he's like, yeah.
And he's like, you've heard of it?
I was like, I did, yeah.
And he's like, oh, what did you hear?
And I was like, I heard you guys think like an alien threw a bunch of aliens in a volcano, You said that to him?
Yeah.
And he laughed and he goes, do you get all your information from cartoons?
And then I laughed and I was like, no.
And he goes, then why would you take that one?
Why would you take information on anything we're doing from a cartoon?
And I was like, fair point.
I have never actually talked to any guys.
So he invited me and I sat down.
He showed me the book.
We talked for a little bit.
I did the e-meter thing.
It made no sense at all.
It felt like it was a cult manipulation technique where it's like, what are you thinking about right now?
And then I'm like, the letter H. And he's like, what?
I'm like, I just tried to think of anything random.
And the meter's going crazy.
And then ultimately he was like, okay, well, you know, would you buy this book for 500 bucks?
It was 20 bucks.
I bought it.
And, and, and because that's the kind of person I'm like, I'm, I'm not going to just assume that South Park told me the truth about any of this.
I want to read what these people are saying.
I got to the first chapter and I said, it's a cult.
alex stein
Yeah, but you know, it's funny, you can actually, he's making fun of that, saying South Park is wrong.
You can listen to, I forget what level, I think it's the OT level 5, you can actually listen to the recording of L. Ron Hubbard saying exactly, it's basically word for word, the South Park sketch.
Literally, it's like, we threw him down, you can look it up, type in L. Ron Hubbard transcript of Xenu, and it's literally, the South Park thing is like, identical to it.
I mean, it's not off at all.
tim pool
They're probably right.
What I found in like the first chapter was it talks about aberrations and things like, the argument they basically made, and it's been like a decade, it's been a long time, was that over time you build up misalignments in logical reasoning.
Due to things like, one day you eat a hard-boiled egg and get sick.
Your brain then is configured to avoid these things because it must be bad.
But logically, it was just the probability of an egg sometimes being bad.
And so, you might grow up with an aversion to eating hard-boiled eggs.
That's an aberration.
You must remove that and resume the normal life process of eating hard-boiled eggs.
alex stein
And that's probably good versus I mean that I mean like the mental health part of that is probably good I think like obviously there's probably some tenants of Scientology I think it does help people but I think another thing is like like you said these aberrations and you also like go back and you think of like traumatic events and you try to like I guess do it a different way I'm not sure but the initial argument was you've got to let go of these traumas to heal yourself kind of thing and Which makes sense.
tim pool
And then I don't know where the whole Xenu stuff comes in or whatever.
alex stein
That's like levels.
I think our own harbor is just getting weird with it at those other levels.
tim pool
There's so much like way cooler ideas you could come up with.
My favorite is that human life originated on Venus.
And a runaway greenhouse effect started destroying the environment through massive global warming.
So the military constructed something called the Ark Project, which is a giant vessel.
And they took the DNA of, they took the two different DNA sets from each animal on the planet, and then launched a terraforming pod onto the neighboring planet of Earth.
to then seed life in the pre-Cambrian area.
And then there's this explosion of life just all at once.
And then the Ark comes to Earth and the remaining survivors of Venus, there's very few left come down and land in, you know, like ancient Sumeria or whatever.
- Did you make that up or is that somebody else's theory? - I mean, I technically made up basically giving a sci-fi twist to- You know what I mean?
alex stein
You know what I like?
I like the theory that, you know, when they say that God casted out a third of the angels from heaven and they were like forced to come here on earth and that those angels supposedly slept with Nephilim, that there were supposedly giants on their earth.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no.
tim pool
The Nephilim are the hybrid, aren't they?
Well, I thought that... The Nephilim are the hybrid kids of angels and humans or something like that?
alex stein
Okay, I thought we were the offspring.
I thought humans were the offspring.
Okay, well either or.
It's still Nephilim.
I kind of like to think that there was giants and I don't know why.
tim pool
So when the Ark comes, all the humans on Venus are dying because it's like, we know that Venus is like a greenhouse effect.
We landed a probe and the probe like just melted from the The density of the sulfuric acid or whatever.
And so the Ark is in orbit.
alex stein
Okay.
tim pool
And it's a military run because they're the only survivors.
So you've got this dude who's completely in charge of everything.
And then they send a bunch of the basic humans down Earth who have no knowledge of farming or anything.
Because, come on, could you farm?
You don't know.
We have no idea what we're doing.
Like an insurance broker lands in ancient, like in this ancient land where it's like fertile ground and they're like, I have no idea what's going on.
They barely remember anything about anything.
And then all of a sudden, second-in-command guy is like, it's time to establish a democratic form of government, and the military leader is like, no, humanity's on the verge of extinction, we will not.
Then all of a sudden, the people down on Earth are watching these ships shooting at each other, there's a coup attempt, and they're like, that dude- And then when the second-in-command guy loses, they say, we're banishing you to Central America, where, that's where he goes.
You know?
alex stein
Gosh, we're just going crazy theories on this episode.
tim pool
Basically, I'm just taking a sci-fi twist to all of these, like, stories, you know?
alex stein
Well, I don't think that we evolved from pond scum.
I don't think that everything came from nothing.
I find that hard to believe.
tim pool
Well, no, it didn't.
We're in a simulation.
alex stein
That is believable!
Honestly, I do feel like we live in a video game sometimes.
tim pool
Simulation theory is, like, basic Abrahamic religion for atheists.
Like if you're like a higher power created this universe in all of its forms, they go, Oh, get out of here.
If you go a super intelligent species created this simulation, they go, Oh, I love that.
Oh, that explains it.
tyler fischer
I never felt like that until recently.
I didn't feel like that as a kid.
I think it's because our technology has become so advanced.
Yeah.
alex stein
But I'm saying like, I think we like are in the Truman show.
I mean, not that we're like, you know, the solo movie, but I just, it just doesn't, it seems fake.
Some stuff seems fake.
tyler fischer
Sure.
alex stein
It's the world we live in.
I don't know.
It's hard to tell what's real and what's fake.
And I do a lot of fake stuff that I try to present as real.
tim pool
Speaking of that, we gotta go film this commercial.
alex stein
Let's go!
tim pool
Let's go film this commercial.
So ladies and gentlemen, this has been a really, really fun Friday morning.
I knew it was gonna get silly and we were gonna laugh a lot, so I appreciate you guys coming.
Tyler, do you wanna shout anything out?
tyler fischer
Oh yeah, sure.
Lady Ballers is out today on Daily Wire.
Bertram comes out soon on Daily Wire.
I'm not sure when.
Trailer's out Monday.
And then I'm doing a stand-up comedy tour.
Awesome.
So January I'll be in California, Atlanta, everywhere.
tim pool
How did your dog know we were wrapping the show up?
tyler fischer
Oh, he's ready to go.
tim pool
I know, like, as soon as I was like, you know, trying to think, he stands up and starts wagging his tail.
unidentified
I'm like, what?
tyler fischer
He's so in tune, man.
He's a smart dude.
And, uh, yeah, tour, tylerfisher.com.
I'm touring the whole country, and come see me do stand-up.
alex stein
Watch my show on BlazeTV, Primetime with Alex Sine.
For the love of God, I'm begging you, watch that show.
Thank you.
tim pool
All right, everybody.
It's been fun.
Thanks for hanging out.
We, of course, will be back with Tim Cast IRL tonight at 8 p.m.
And then we had a really fun one next week.
I could be wrong, but next week, I think, is about Donald Trump potentially being the Antichrist or something like that.
It might not be next week, but stick around.
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