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Trump's Press Conference Revelations 00:04:20
tom homan
To say it's safer to arrest a public safety threat than the safety and security of a jail.
And let me tell you, what is that going to result in?
Less collateral arrests.
When we go find that bad guy, when we find that bad guy, many times is with others.
Well, guess what?
They're in the country legally.
We're going to force immigration law.
They're coming through.
You want less collateral arrests?
Plus in the jail.
But we're going to force immigration law for the people to say we're here to surrender our authority and the mission of enforcing immigration law.
You are wrong.
We're going to do target enforcement operations and we're going to prioritize the public safety threats and national security threats.
That is what we're here to do.
jasmine wright
That was White House border czar Tom Homan with his first press conference in Minnesota since taking over the immigration enforcement operations there.
Sent by President Trump, he said, he said that he was there since Monday after getting the call from Trump Monday morning to go.
And he said some significant things in that press conference.
First, he said that his meetings with local officials there, including Governor Tim Waltz, Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Fry, Attorney General Keith Ellison was very good.
He said significant progress had been made.
He said, quote, we didn't agree on anything, but he defended talking to those Democrats in that state, saying you can't fix problems if you don't have discussions.
He said he made the call to let them operate by them.
He means ICE and immigration enforcement in jails more than in the streets.
He just said, saying that that would bring down the violence.
Now, in terms of what brought him there, obviously, after the shooting of Alex Predi by federal agents, he said that the officials were working on a drawdown plan.
He said that was a priority to get more agents out of Minneapolis, but that is, of course, only if he sees significant progress in allowing more cooperation with the state of Minneapolis and their enforcement officials, and obviously the federal officials.
He said that nothing had been perfect, and that's not what he wanted to hear from officials.
He said that no operation is perfect and improvements could always be made.
Now, he said that they're going to be focusing more on targeted operations, saying that we think we got away from it a little bit.
That was a quote from him.
And of course, he called agents, patriots, and called for the rhetoric against ICE to stop.
So this morning, since we just got out of that press conference, we'll be hearing more, or we want to hear more from you, immediate reactions of what you thought about that press conference that we just showed from Tom Homan.
I want to turn first to some messages that we got online from that.
From 931, it says, I was watching, I was in Orlando watching it on TV and went outside and saw two plumes going in different directions.
And I thought it was the booster dropping off.
Oh, excuse me, not that one.
That was the wrong one.
Tom Tillis, we're going to look at a tweet from him.
He said, this is what competent leadership looks like.
Noam and Miller take notes.
Of course, Tom Tillis, a Republican from North Carolina who has decided not to run for re-election, has been increasingly critical of Christy Noam, DHS secretary, and of Stephen Miller, White House Deputy Chief of Staff, who has had an influential, who has had a lot of influence on the White House's immigration platform.
He's been deeply critical of him.
Today, he says this is what competent leadership looks like.
And so let's turn to some calls, perhaps.
Alan from Brooklyn, New York, a Democrat.
Your line is open.
What's your question?
unidentified
Yes, good morning.
Thank you.
I just finished listening to his entire press conference.
And what I found remarkable is what he left out.
I'm glad to hear he's going to be targeting the ICE operations at known criminals and not at ordinary citizens.
I'm glad he's talking about cooperating with the mayor and the governor.
Targeting ICE Operations 00:15:23
unidentified
What I didn't hear him say is anything repudiating or even mildly criticizing Christy Noewem for making immediate remarks after the death of both of these innocent victims, claiming that they were domestic terrorists and the disinformation that seemed to be the default setting for this administration.
I think some admission that that kind of disinformation is toxic should have been a necessary part of any press conference claiming that they are reforming themselves.
And that is the biggest omission here.
Until they admit they've been involved with disinformation, anything they do going forward is going to be suspect.
And I'd hope to hear that come out as a correction after the fact, because I'm sure other reporters will note the absence of that.
jasmine wright
Alan from Brooklyn, New York, a Democrat.
Jackie from New Jersey, a Democrat, you're next.
What was your reaction?
Jackie, are you there?
unidentified
Hi, good morning.
Good morning.
I think that we're in this period where the court of public opinion is outweighing the true law.
The Supreme Court held in two cases, Prince versus United States and Arizona versus United States, that federal law enforcement, immigration enforcement, is a federal policing activity.
State and local police do not have the immunity that federal agents have.
And I believe that if the administration and the states are arguing over these things, when there is a clear ruling that the Supreme Court put forward saying local and state PD are not required to participate in immigration enforcement, that these issues should be taken up before the Supreme Court instead of having agents and the population at war with each other.
And I think a lot of the rhetoric coming out of the administration is populism and doesn't speak to the law.
How can we have law enforcement agencies headed by non-lawyers?
It's ridiculous.
If the public knew that the Supreme Court ruled this way, then the public would demand that this be taken before the Supreme Court again under different facts.
jasmine wright
Jackie, I wonder what you make of what you heard from Tom Holman here, who spoke for about 40 minutes, and spoke to this idea that there would be some cooperation perhaps with federal officials and local officials when it comes to not enforcing federal law.
He said they won't be enforcing federal law, but to a commitment to keeping the peace.
unidentified
I think that's progress.
I definitely think his tone was a lot more professional than what we've been seeing out of the administration.
But I still think there is this appeal by the appointees to garner a populist response.
I think that it would be responsible if the administration said, look, the Supreme Court set out these rulings that allowed states and localities to say, hey, we don't really have immunity here, and we're not required to enforce this stuff.
I mean, what cop wants to get involved in something if he can be personally sued?
The local and state police are not federal agents.
They don't have qualified immunity.
And I think they need to speak to the law, and then people will really understand why these tensions exist.
And then they can challenge it legally instead of having the citizens and the agents at war with each other on the street.
It's terribly tragic.
jasmine wright
That was Jackie from New Jersey, a Democrat.
Carl from New Mexico, a Republican.
You're next.
Hi, Carl.
You're on the line.
What was your reaction to the press conference from White House Board Designer Tom Homan?
unidentified
He's been talking more or less the same way ever since he was appointed, and he has the experience for it.
But the thing is, is the city and didn't cooperate with them like Florida does.
Police control the crowd while the ICE goes and does their job.
And it didn't happen here because of the politics.
jasmine wright
So what do you want to see from the administration now?
Obviously, Tom Homan said that there has been some significant progress in conversations.
And he asked, effectively, let them operate in jails, talking about ICE more than in the streets, saying that if they were able to operate more in jails, he could see a larger drawdown of federal agents.
Is that something you would like to see?
unidentified
Well, I think if they did away with sanctuary cities and states, that would help a lot because our laws in this country have always been abide by the laws.
And if I was a person who wanted to come in here and was paying years waiting and paying a lot of money, and the immigrant comes across the border, and then the other problem with the immigrants is we're treating the immigrants better than we treat our vets and everybody else.
And it doesn't make sense.
We're having hardships now here, most of the people.
They're helping everybody else, but not helping our own people, you know.
And I just think that's wrong.
jasmine wright
That was Carl from New Mexico.
Steve from Indiana, an independent.
You're next.
What was your reaction to Homan's press conference?
unidentified
Yeah, I just caught the tail end of it.
Are you going to replay this at some time?
jasmine wright
Well, what you can do is go online, and obviously that exists on our C-SPAN website.
I'm not sure about whether or not we will replay it, but obviously things replay throughout the day, and you can find that on C-SPAN too.
unidentified
I called those.
There's an author named Peter Schweitzer that just wrote a book about all of this.
And he goes really into detail about, you know, who is behind all of this stuff.
And it isn't just as simple as it looks on its face.
And, you know, if a lot of these people just with their Trump derangement syndrome would just calm down and look at the facts instead of just screaming and yelling and going insane.
But as far as the local and state police helping out these guys, if I were a bail bondsman and I had somebody to jump bail and I was going to go to their house, I could go to the local police and they would send at least one officer with me.
If they're not expected to help me capture the guy, no, no, they're there for safety.
The local cops on these operations with ICE, they should be there directing traffic, keeping the crowds back.
I mean, how would you like it if you were trying to do your daily job?
Whatever you do, you know, I don't know exactly what you do during the day, but how would you like it if you were trying to just do your job and there's somebody screaming at you, spitting on you, blowing a whistle in your ear, you know, calling you every name in the book?
How would you like that?
That's crazy.
These guys are just doing their jobs, they're doing the law.
Okay, this is the law.
Just because some of these people don't like it don't mean they can go out there and act like insane mobs.
You know, it's these people, you gotta get some sanity, man.
I mean, damn, this nurse, I just heard lately that he quit his job and ran radicalized, and this was going to be his life now going around doing this stuff.
I mean, a lot of these people are just in it.
It's an easy way to make a buck because they are getting paid.
It's an easy way to make a buck and just run wild, you know.
A lot of young kids like to do that.
jasmine wright
Steve, I'm going to break in here.
Since you said that you didn't see the top of the press conference, I'm going to play you and every folks who are tuning in now a sound bite from the beginning when he entered the room.
Again, this is his first press conference in Minneapolis since taking control of ICE enforcement.
There, here's Tom Homan.
tom homan
We will conduct targeted enforcement operations.
Targeted.
What we've done for decades.
When we hit the streets, we know exactly who we're looking for.
Good idea where we may find them.
You have a criminal history.
You have their immigration history.
A lot of information about this person that we get from numerous databases out there.
Targeted strategic enforcement operations.
That's traditionally been the case.
And that's where we're going.
That's what we're going to continue to do and improve upon that with a prioritization on public safety threats.
I want to be clear.
I don't read a lot of social media.
I don't read a lot of media.
I can't believe how far I see.
We are not surrendering the president's mission on immigration enforcement.
Let's make that clear.
Prioritization of criminal ambulance doesn't mean we forget about everybody else.
That's just simply ridiculous.
But when you have a criminal standing here and a non-criminal standing there, that criminal always should be targeted first because he's a significant concern to the safety and security of the minister of the community.
jasmine wright
So there was Tom Homa and White House Borders Are at his first press conference since taking control of ICE enforcement in Minnesota.
He was talking about the fact that they are going to focus now more on targeted enforcement of public safety threats instead of some of the previous enforcement that we've seen in the state in the past few weeks.
He said, quote, I think we got away from it a little bit, talking about now going back to those targeted operations.
And he's also said that he was going to fix it as President Trump had asked him to do, and he will stay there until it is finished.
Kenneth from Columbia, South Carolina, a Democrat, you're next.
rabbi chaim mentz
Good morning.
jasmine wright
Good morning.
What was your reaction to the press conference, Kenneth?
rabbi chaim mentz
Yeah, see, we talked about target these individuals, but if you is this going to Home Depot, schools, you should have, if you're talking to somebody, you should have the picture.
You should have some knowing where they live or where they go, whatever they be doing.
You go to that area and you don't bring 15 or 20 people, you know what I'm saying, ahead of time.
You find them for sure if that person is in that area.
You just don't go out there and just raid the whole community because, and this check people because they color, way they talk, how they look.
There's a certain way you do things, and they wasn't doing it.
And these keep saying about the border.
These people, these different states send these people from their state all over the country.
And after they don't send these people like Florida and Texas, if they want to get these people out of the country, why did they send them to New York?
Why did they send them to Washington?
Why don't they send them to all these different areas?
Why didn't they send them out during that time?
They just want to have this thing political so they can go out and use different areas and do exactly what they're doing, send these agents out there for excuses to raid these areas and say that they're doing something that should have been done when they were trying to pass a border control law from the beginning.
They're just using this thing here for political reasons.
And they were doing that since Biden took office.
They knew that the American people wanted this border control.
And they knew that that would have been a good way of getting these people, the American people, to turn against the Biden administration.
So they send these people to the United States.
They pay for this organization to send these people over here so they can rush the border.
And during the time they were trying to stop the border control, Trump and his people stopped them from making laws to prevent that.
So they don't really care about the people that come into the United States.
They did.
They were sending them out when they first got a hold of them.
jasmine wright
That was Kenneth from Columbia, South Carolina, a Democrat.
John from New York, a Republican.
You're next.
What did you think about Tom Holman's press conference, John?
unidentified
Thank you for having me.
Tom Holman did an awesome job.
He's got a tough job.
People don't realize that he has a tough job, a lot of responsibility.
I just want to say to the people in America, we wouldn't be in this predicament, and Tom Hole wouldn't be on right now if we didn't have open borders.
If people go back, look at how people flooded in with the open borders.
If we didn't have open borders, we wouldn't be talking about this.
We wouldn't have loss of lives.
My condolences to people who lost their lives, but we wouldn't be in this predicament.
We have laws we have to follow.
You come here illegally, illegally, whether you're a criminal or not.
See, people forget now.
Not only just the criminals, the ones who just come over.
If you come here illegally, my tax dollars, and I got to pay for your medical, and I got friends that have to pay for their medical, and they come over and they get free medical.
Listen, my grandparents came from Italy the right way.
Come the right way.
Okay.
jasmine wright
So let me ask you, John.
Sean, let me ask you this quickly before you hop off.
Are you supportive of this idea that Tom Holman said that now they're going to be focused more on targeted threats, on public safe, I mean, targeted operations, public safety threats?
Are you supportive of kind of that shift in focus?
unidentified
Absolutely.
It's very, very important with public safety.
And these politicians, the way they're talking, they should be in jail.
They should be charged criminally.
The way they're talking, they're agitating these people.
And they're getting paid by George Soros.
And God bless the Border Patrol.
God bless the police, you know, and President Trump.
People can say what they want.
Look at the facts.
They're blinded, okay?
They're blinded.
Tom Holman has got a tough job to do.
Christy Noam, she's got a tough job.
I say, people, sit in that shoes, sit in their shoes, and then come back and tell me what you think.
I'll bet you they have a different change of heart.
You know what I mean?
Drugs, Protest, and Consequences 00:09:55
unidentified
It's just sad that we're in this predicament, but look at it.
We wouldn't be in this predicament again.
I'll say it again.
If you look when Joe Biden was in, open borders.
We wouldn't be in this predicament.
We have laws, follow laws.
We have federal laws.
Me as an American citizen, I go out, I drink, I get pulled over.
What do I do?
Break the law.
I go to jail.
So we have laws we have to follow, especially federal laws.
And people should realize this.
So, you know, God bless America.
Hopefully, you know, things will work out.
But if you look at red states, we don't have the problem.
Go to Florida.
If you're illegal, you don't come into the state.
If you're illegal, you don't own a business.
If you're illegal, you don't get a driver's license.
That's the other thing.
How are they getting CDL driver's license?
They killed innocent people.
That New York gave them driver's license, California.
How come we don't talk about that?
How come that's not talked about?
rabbi chaim mentz
Right?
jasmine wright
Okay, John from New York, Republican.
Lester from Washington, D.C., an independent.
Good morning, Lester.
unidentified
Yeah, thank you.
Thank you.
jasmine wright
What did you think of Holman's comments?
rabbi chaim mentz
Well, I mean, Holman, I mean, it was only a couple months ago when it was talk about him taking a bribe.
So, I mean, he has a character issue, Mr. Holman.
unidentified
All right.
rabbi chaim mentz
However, I do agree that about targeting, about targeting and precise coordination.
jasmine wright
Targeted operations.
unidentified
Yeah, targeted operation.
rabbi chaim mentz
I mean, the difference, I mean, Obama, the Obama administration, they would define as the deportation, big deporters.
Okay, so the difference is it probably was targeted and more precise.
unidentified
Okay?
Hello?
jasmine wright
Yep, I can hear you.
Lester, would you like to see a drawdown of federal agents in Minnesota after what we've seen for the last three weeks?
unidentified
Of course.
rabbi chaim mentz
Of course, ICE needs to be reformed.
And as far as fraud, I mean, why are we not looking at ICE?
Why are we not looking at the military budget?
Both of them are blown and out of proportion.
Also, too, you know, every law that does not need to be complied with if it's against your moral sense of conscience.
So, you know, these people get on the phone and talk about law and order.
And let me just say this, too.
If we got $11 or $13 million, $13 million illegals here, people forget that the rich and the powerful brought these people over here.
unidentified
Okay?
rabbi chaim mentz
They brought them over here to replace black folks, to replace the underclass.
So people forget that.
These 13 or 14 million, it wasn't just a Democratic thing.
Ronald Reagan supported open borders.
So these people who get on the phone and make it all out of Biden, they have short memories.
They have short memories.
And that's the problem with a lot of conservatives and a lot of reactionaries.
They're situational.
unidentified
Okay, they're situational.
rabbi chaim mentz
One minute, you know, what about the 10th Amendment?
What about protection for politicians regarding the public debate?
You see, they want to discard all of that.
unidentified
Okay?
rabbi chaim mentz
They want to discard all of that because it doesn't suit their right-wing, their racist, their madness.
That's all I got to say about it.
unidentified
Okay?
jasmine wright
That was Lester from Washington, D.C., and an independent.
John from California, a Republican.
John, you're next.
What did you think of Mr. Holman's comments in Minnesota?
unidentified
Well, I think he was great, but I'd like to start off by saying I live in Santa Paula, which is a small agricultural town.
And we just had our first incidence where a Spanish-speaking man with a knife broke into a nice home in town, beat the lady up, stabbed her, and robbed her, and he's out free.
Right now, we have a maniac with a knife running around our little town, and it's freaking everybody out.
And so, I believe that ICE, our city council, of course, is a typical California.
They've underfunded our police department, and they've just allowed this to happen.
And we don't have ICE in our town.
And I wish we did, because now we're living in fear.
We got this guy running around.
He could have been one of those 2 million that nobody has fingerprints on.
He could do this again and maybe harm somebody else.
So I think there's, you know, I don't know what the answer is, but Tom Holman is legitimate, and he's authorized by Congress, and he's authorized to do this job.
And why we're not, why towns like Santa Paula are keeping ICE out, and now we're having our citizens harmed is beyond my comprehension.
So I think we should give the guy a break and do what he says.
And I want to make one more point.
I worked in south central L.A. and the illegals were brought in to undercut the black people who live there.
They'll work cheaper, and they absolutely were brought in to undercut the black community.
So I am so disgusted with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris letting all these people in.
And now look at the consequences.
And here we are attacking Tom Holman, who's trying to fix it.
This thing is so confusing that it's crazy.
Now Santa Paula is living in fear because we got a maniac running loose in our town.
I wish Tom Holman would come to Santa Paula.
So that's what I like to say.
I wish everybody the best.
People have died on both sides, and we need to end this thing.
And it was unfortunate this whole thing began in the beginning, but it's here now.
And these are drastic measures.
So let's keep Americans from dying and keep black people employed.
So, you know, God bless America.
Thank you.
jasmine wright
That was John from California, Independent or Republican, I believe, excuse me.
Matt from Maryland, a Democrat.
Matt, you're on the line.
What did you think about Tom Holman's comments?
unidentified
Yes, I was surprised.
I didn't hear what I thought he would talk about is that data have shown over and over, over and over, guns kill more people in America than drugs.
And it's the Republican that come on C-SPAN.
We hear them all the time.
We hear them on C-SPAN all the time.
It's not the gun that killed the person, it's the person behind the gun.
Well, isn't that the truth about drugs?
Drugs don't kill people.
jasmine wright
Connect this to me.
Connect this for me to Minnesota.
Since we're talking about Tom Holman, obviously he gave that press conference today where he talked about a drawdown plan for federal agents in Minneapolis.
He basically said no operation was perfect.
There can be improvements.
He said that a targeted operation is happening.
Connect what you have to say about drugs and guns to what we're seeing in Minnesota for me.
unidentified
The connection is this has never, it's not about drugs.
It's not about drugs coming into the country and killing people.
And the messy operation that just started has nothing to do with any of that.
This is all politics.
Is about politics and about winning the next election.
You see, Republicans, they win election by making Democrats stay home and not going to vote.
In other words, they make Democrats disgusted with their own party and they don't go out to vote.
That's how they win the election.
So now they're starting their operation in a really messy way, you know, going out, being all lousy and everything.
And then now Democrats were warning him and say, this is going to blow out.
This is going to get messy.
This is not a way to do it.
And Donald Trump insisted doing it this way.
And now we're seeing the result of it.
And now, yeah, yeah, it's going to those Democrats saying, work with me.
You know what people would think when the police is now part of ICE and helping ICE to arrest American citizens because maybe they were born outside of the country or born to the American citizens, you know, and then thrown out of the country.
One thing that would do in November that would keep Democrats, that would disgust so many people, the men I showed up to vote.
So Democrat needs to stop being weak.
And I hate to use the word stupid because Donald Trump used that word.
Stop being stupid.
Stop criticizing the protesters.
There's nothing that says, Republicans have taught us this on January 6th.
What they taught us is the protest doesn't have to be peaceful.
And we can hope and pray that it stays peaceful.
I'm hoping and praying it stays peaceful.
We're not saying go out there and do something crazy.
But there's nothing that says that it has to be.
jasmine wright
That was Matt from Maryland.
Linda from Arkansas, a Republican.
Praying For Peace 00:04:46
jasmine wright
You're next.
What did you think about Tom Holman's press conference, Linda?
unidentified
I thought it was very well done.
He put the blame right where it belongs.
It's on the American people, and we have to enforce the law.
And now it's in the governor and the mayor's hands.
Let's see if they've got a forked tongue.
They're willing to admit there's a law in the books.
Let's see if they'll cooperate or not.
They don't want ICE there.
So let them have the prisoners.
Let them have the ones that have already been arrested, convicted, sentenced, and out.
And do it in the jailhouse for its sake.
You don't need an audience of 25 people to pick up a criminal.
They do it all the time.
They fly out and fly in, four or five people, pick up their criminals and bring them back to where they belong.
Let's get them out of here.
They don't belong here.
They're not American citizens.
And these people that have been here for 35 and 40 years, why haven't they taken the test of being American?
You know, if you're smart enough to take the test, fine.
But they can't even pass the driver's test.
They got to put that in Spanish and that's how, you know, they put it in all kinds of languages.
jasmine wright
Let me ask you.
unidentified
Let me ask you a question.
jasmine wright
Let me ask you, Linda, since you watched a press conference, Tom Holman said that if they did see cooperation, including letting federal agents remove people from the jails rather than being in the streets, that he would go forward with a drawdown plan.
I have that soundbite.
But would you be supportive of less agents, less federal agents in Minnesota if there was more cooperation with local officials?
unidentified
I would be.
Yeah, I would be.
They wouldn't need them all.
The ones that are doing the work wouldn't need ones protecting their back.
I watched these little rats and things, protests, whatever you want to call them.
Now, last Friday, they had a legal protest.
They marched the streets and they didn't bang whistles and everything.
They were pretty peaceful-looking little people.
And then you turn around on Saturday, and what do you get?
You get the erratics, you get the banging and the trash cans, all that good stuff.
But yeah, if the mayor and the governor are willing to obey the law and transfer prisoners, I'd be willing to withdraw some tits.
jasmine wright
Okay, let's turn to that soundbite from Tom Homan, who laid out exactly what's happening with a potential drawdown plan and what it would take for that to commence.
tom homan
When the violence decreases, we can draw down those resources.
But based on the discussions I've had with the governor and the AG, we can start drawing down those resources as far as those looking for public safety threats being released and doing it in jail with much less people.
So the drawdown is going to happen based on these agreements.
But the drawdown can happen even more if the hateful rhetoric and the impediment interference will stop.
So Border Patrol, I was a Border Patrol agent.
These men and women are patriots.
God bless them.
They're here to help us.
And the drawdown will come soon, depending on when this actually, I see this in play.
But the agreements have alone is going to cause a significant drawdown.
So you're going to see a drawdown.
jasmine wright
There was Tom Holman talking about a potential for a drawdown of federal forces if he got a couple things.
One, more cooperation with local officials.
That includes allowing them to go into the jails to remove folks who may have been charged or convicted with certain crimes, as well as, he says, lessening of hateful rhetoric against ICE officials in the state of Minnesota.
Timothy from Alabama, a Democrat, you're next.
What did you think of Tom Holman's comments?
unidentified
I think Tom Holman's comments was pretty good about drawing down the operation of ICE.
I believe that he's trying to attempt to avoid a shutdown because a shutdown would affect FEMA and it would also affect those people who are getting tax returns about this time of the year.
But the other thing I like to thank the people of Minnesota and for standing up for their rights, and my condolences amount to the petty and the good family.
Avoiding ICE Shutdown 00:15:10
unidentified
But what I would like some people to look at is look at a gentleman by the name of Mussolini and read about what fascism is.
Because that's what Trump is trying to do, nationalism and dictatorship.
Thank you for listening to my call.
jasmine wright
That was Timothy from Alabama.
Democrat Mark from Fort Lauderdale, an independent.
You're next.
What did you think about Tom Holman, White House Borders Are's comments earlier today?
unidentified
Hello, good morning.
And as always, thank you very much for C-STAN.
Hello.
Hello, do you hear me?
jasmine wright
I sure do.
unidentified
I'm speaking.
jasmine wright
Go ahead.
unidentified
Okay, good.
jasmine wright
You're on the line.
unidentified
Actually, I sure would like to respond to a lot of these people that call in, but I know there's not enough.
You won't give me enough time.
And since the reason I originally called in was Homan's comment about why the jails won't let them come in to get the immigrants, Criminal immigrants, and in fact, you just played that recently.
Yep.
So that'll take me right back to that.
That's what I originally called about, so let me get right on to that.
Okay.
This is a constant red herring from people like Mr. Homan, who, as we all should remember, is the father of the family separation policy under Trump's original administration.
Anytime anyone comes in contact with the police or gets taken into custody, their background is run.
And as such, if there's any problem with their immigration status or there's any notification from the immigration authorities, they are not just released back to the streets.
They are held on immigration holds.
And people like Mr. Homan are notified.
We have this guy.
Come get him.
Either when he makes bail and they can't won't release him, they will hold him if they say hold him.
Or why shouldn't they do their sentence?
If they go through the court system and get sentenced, let them go to jail.
And then these people are held upon their time ending, waiting for the right authorities to come pick them up and deport them.
It's been going on for years like that.
So this business about they won't let us into the jails.
They won't let us into the jails.
That's utter nonsense.
And I guess that's about all I got to say.
And I appreciate it.
You listening to me.
jasmine wright
Mark from Fort Lauderdale, an independent.
I want to read this article from the New York Times.
The headline here is, ICE demands more access to Minnesota inmates, but it's complicated.
The Trump administration said it would ease its immigration operation in Minnesota in exchange for broader access to inmates.
Local leaders say they already cooperate significantly.
If you scroll down just a little bit, now this is from January 22nd, so about seven days ago, it says federal officials have suggested that they might wind down their campaign if Democratic leaders like Governor Tim Waltz and Mayor Jacob Fry would give them access to the people subject to deportation in Minnesota's prisons and jails.
Obviously, Tom Homan reiterated that request and said that some significant progress had been made.
But the article goes on to say, the Department of Homeland Security has asserted that Mr. Waltz and Mr. Frey are shielding about 1,300 immigrants charged with crimes who are subject to deportation, though it did not explain how it came to that conclusion.
And state and local officials dispute that claim.
Again, this is from seven days ago.
It says the Minnesota Department of Corrections said the number of incarcerated people that the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement has identified as being subject to deportation was slightly over 300 as of last Monday.
I guess this was seven days ago, so about two weeks ago or something like that.
The department also says the Trump administration is misrepresenting how Minnesota jails and prisons assist in immigration matters.
And Minnesota officials say that state prisons have long released inmates subject to deportation to federal immigration officials after their sentences end.
Mr. Frey has no authority over Minnesota's county jails, which have a patchwork of policies on the issue.
Some counties explicitly cooperate with federal authorities and at least one, Henneplin, the state's most populous county, refrains from assisting ICE agents as a matter of policy.
Nationally, the degree to which local enforcement officials overseeing prisons and jails are willing to cooperate with immigration enforcement has long been a thorny issue.
So obviously some reporting on whether or not Minnesota is in fact cooperating or going to the law to cooperate with federal officials or whether or not they even can cooperate with federal officials when it comes to letting them into their prisons and jails.
Mike from North Carolina, a Republican, you're next.
What did you think of Tom Homan's comments?
unidentified
Oh, it's right on.
I mean, it's common sense.
As he said, it's common sense, but common sense is not a virtue in Blue City Democrat-run state and city.
But the first thing, we got the, you know, the D.C. and the Congress and the House, but you'll never get Democrats to vote for it.
You know, they say that coming across the border is not a crime.
It's a misdemeanor or something like that.
Okay, it needs to be upgraded to a felony.
That's the first thing.
And the Congress House and the Senate needs to pass the SAFE Act.
See, one of the things, you know, why they fight so hard during when they do the census, why did they fight?
The Democrats fight so hard to have illegals counted in the census.
Because when they, all these sanctuary cities, they know all these illegals go there, okay, it's going to buff up their numbers, more House representation.
You know, that's one of the main things.
And, you know, these people, these sanctuary cities, they are protecting and the illegals and this cashless bail garbage.
This is the biggest joke of everything.
Oh, people can't afford their bail.
Well, if you do the crime, you shouldn't be out on the streets.
And this, it's not, we voted for this stuff.
77 million people voted for mass deportations, getting the criminals out of the city and out of the state.
And it's just, it's crazy how they're covering up for them.
You didn't see none of these politicians.
You didn't see none of these protesters go see Lake and Riley family.
None of them, not a Democrat one has called Lake and Riley's family, Jocelyn Nungery's.
None of these people that's been killed by DWI crashes, by rapes, by murders.
You didn't see none of them.
None of them called none of these angel families.
But you get this, like this guy Petty.
Okay, they made him like he was all this such a great nurse and all this stuff there.
Okay, that was previously released, which you showed, him attacking and spitting on officers.
That's a lie.
And everybody knows it.
He's an agitator.
And, you know, I hate that he got killed.
He shouldn't have got killed.
But he's an agitator and they're covering for him and they're making excuses for these people.
It's just like he's politicians.
You know, if they don't want to fund this DHS, shut down the government.
If we went through a Schumer shutdown, we're going to go through a Schumer Hakeem Jeffrey shutdown.
And the thing about the little boy, okay, oh, he's incarcerated.
He's incarcerated.
His daddy run from him, run and left the kid in the car.
You tell me, oh, that's a parent of the year.
No, he would have stayed there with his son.
Okay, that Hakeem, what's his name?
And the other one, Crockett, went down to that detention center in Texas.
That was purely staged.
Oh, make the kid look so sad, look so sorry.
And that is staged just for the tug on the heartstrings of the people.
But you don't see none of these people out here when little kids get murdered and raped and run over and hit by, you know, hit and run.
We had one in North Carolina.
The man, the illegal was drunk, and he hit a little boy on a bicycle.
I think it was in Concord.
And you don't hear none of that stuff.
And I'm sick and tired of these bleeding heart liberals.
But the first thing they need to make border crossings a felony.
And you got, and you, and one thing they never talk about, you got final deportation orders from a judge.
They done had their due process.
There's over 1 million that's been ordered to leave.
And they say, oh, the grandma's and all this stuff here.
Of course, you know, you ever watch the cop shows, people got handcuffs on.
Are called being detained, not being arrested.
There's a big difference between being detained and arrested.
Detained is where you ain't going to go nowhere until we find out more what's going on.
And you talk about family separation.
How many Americans, black, white, Latino, how many of the parents get arrested for doing their crimes and they're separated from their kids?
And, you know, America's got enough problems.
We got our own animals, but we're Americans and, you know, but we don't need to import other criminals.
And one other thing, they talk about known being incompetent.
Meorkas lied to this country for four years, saying the border is secure.
The border is closed.
Now, anybody needs to be impeached.
It should be him, and he ought to be tried for treason for lying to this American country, letting an invasion of up to 20 million people in.
It's ridiculous.
People need to play to both sides of the fence?
No, that's crazy.
Why don't they call it out when they see it?
You know, but a Democrat is going to swear a Democrat didn't do nothing wrong.
And it's absolutely ridiculous.
And Tom Tillis, he's from North Carolina.
I'll be glad when he's gone because he ain't doing nothing but turning into another John McCain.
jasmine wright
That was Mike from North Carolina.
Stacy from McClain, Virginia Independent.
You're next.
What did you think of Tom Holman's comments, Stacey?
unidentified
Oh, I didn't think much of it, to be totally honest.
Good morning, America, because the reporter has left out a lot of crucial information that could have settled a lot of things.
First of all, let's be clear.
It was George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who said these poor people are coming to this country to do the jobs Americans won't do.
Remember that?
And they brought these people over to lower the wages because their corporate benefactors wanted them to lower the wages of not just black people, of all American workers.
So they brought in this cheap labor to do that.
Let's be clear on that.
As far as ICE agents are concerned, nobody asked if they were January 6th rioters who have been deputized, proud boys, or Klansmen, or even people with Nazi affiliations.
What is their screening process to get these men to do these jobs?
I know they have a bonus that they have to pay back if they don't hit a quota.
Now, do they still have to pick up 3,000 people a day to meet that quota?
Because if that's the case, it's not strategic.
It's not targeted.
You're just gathering bodies, which includes Americans, just to meet your quota for today, for that freaking day.
They didn't touch on that.
jasmine wright
Well, Tom Holman did say that they were going to go back to targeted operations in the state of Minnesota.
He said, quote, I think we got away from it a little bit, talking about the more broad enforcement that we saw in the last three weeks versus what he's trying to implement.
So he did say that.
unidentified
And that made me feel good because now if you're going to target people, then I expect you to have warrants for those people, you know, what they look like.
I was getting ready for work yesterday.
I heard on WTOP that if you see an ICE agent, because as soon as Governor Spanberger became governor and beat out a Republican, Trump sent ICE over here to Northern Virginia.
And on the news yesterday, it said, if you see ICE agents in Arlington, Virginia, call 911 because they're not working with the police and they don't want to have their citizens scooped up.
They don't want us arguing with them.
They don't want us, but to call 911.
That I found absolutely disturbing.
And I believe Trump wants a second civil war in this country.
He sent these goons out to do exactly what they're doing.
Him, Miller, all of them.
They sent these goons out so that they could start a second civil war, so he could issue in martial law and end the election.
jasmine wright
So the Republicans don't have a lot of Tom Homan who says that you know he was asked by President Trump to de-escalate.
He was asked by Monday.
He went to Minnesota Monday afternoon and that he knows that there is a problem and he's going to stay until he fixes.
unidentified
That's because, my darling, my sweetheart, the lie did not stick.
You know that it's funny because they're using the same talking points.
They used to kill black people.
Oh, I thought they had a gun.
I feared for my life, they were going to run me over.
And now you have the world watching us and they're going frame by frame looking at all those incidents.
And he had no choice but to change because the lie wasn't sticking.
People weren't believing the lie because they saw their eyes, they saw the videotape, they saw um, mr Petty's um firearm, which he was legal to carry, by the way, he was legal to carry and as, and what freaks me out is is Republicans would scream to the highest mountain about the right to carry arms and the bare arms and their second amendment right, but as soon as the narrative don't fit them.
They're ready to rip everybody's rights away and and um, this and Alex he was they.
He was being beaten by like six cops.
He was in a fetal position when another cop in a gray sweatshirt and mask came over, took his firearm and that's when they unloaded on this man.
He was unarmed and they put 10 bullets in him.
And not only did they, they said that they took them, these police officers, out and they're moving them around like pedophile priests to different areas.
But the people that shot Alex, they're still getting paid.
They're on paid leave.
Stand Up for What's Right 00:03:31
jasmine wright
Stacey, i'm going to jump in here because we have a little bit of breaking news.
Uh, first I want to say that that Tom Homan uh press conference White House borders are that we saw earlier today.
That will replay on C-span.
Um, this at 10 a.m.
Once we get done here with what with Washington Journal, excuse me um, but before that uh, Amy Klobuchar, the senator from, uh senior senator from Minnesota, announced this morning that she would run for Minnesota governor, obviously amid this immigration turmoil.
Take a listen here to what she said in her announcement video, Minnesota, we've been through a lot.
amy klobuchar
A beloved leader and her husband murdered in their home, little kids gunned down in a church, the killings of Renee Good, a mom of three, and Alex Predty, a nurse who took care of our veterans.
3,000 ICE agents on our streets and in our towns, sent by an administration that relishes division.
We cannot sugarcoat how hard this is.
But in these moments of enormous difficulty, we find strength in our Minnesota values of hard work, freedom, and simple decency and goodwill.
These times call for leaders who can stand up and not be rubber stamps of this administration, but who are also willing to find common ground and fix things in our state.
These times call for grit and resilience.
I've learned resilience from you.
Through it all, you do not give up.
You put on those winter boots in the freezing cold and bring your kids to school and bring food to your neighbors.
That's Minnesota.
Minnesota built this nation.
We are bold about doing big things.
We mine the ore that won World War II.
We invented everything from the pacemaker to the post-it note.
We feed the world.
And now our next big frontier is before us.
Educating our kids, training our workers, expanding our businesses, protecting the people of our state.
All of them.
All of that will require a government that can carry its weight and match your drive and hard work.
I believe we must stand up for what's right and fix what's wrong.
That's why today I'm announcing my candidacy for governor of the state of Minnesota.
I am running for this job for every person who wants their work recognized and rewarded.
For every Minnesotan who wants to buy their first home.
For every parent who wants a better world for their kids.
I'm running for everyone who wants more affordable health care, for every student, farmer, dreamer, and builder.
And I'm running for every Minnesotan who wants ICE and its abusive tactics out of the state we love.
jasmine wright
So that was Senator Amy Klobuchara's announcement video that she will be running for governor of Minnesota.
Obviously, she's a senator here in Washington.
And this comes amid all the immigration turmoil that we've seen over the last few weeks in Minnesota.
Before that, obviously, we heard from Tom Holman, the White House Borders are today talking about how he is now leading the enforcement in Minnesota when it comes to the federal immigration's federal agents pursuing immigration.
Democrats Lash Out at Obama 00:06:17
jasmine wright
Steve from Long Island, New York, a Democrat.
You're next.
unidentified
Hi.
Hi.
Thanks for having me.
I'm glad to see Amy's going to run for governor.
I mean, all this stuff was planned from the start.
Trump sent these people to Minnesota.
There are more illegal aliens on one block in Miami than the state of Minnesota.
I mean, he was trying to start this war.
Tom Holman's just stopped that measure because his poll numbers were going down.
The business community is starting to speak out now.
I mean, this is just a PR stunt.
This guy's a clerk who accepted $50,000 in a paper bag back in the summer, a year or two ago.
I mean, it's amazing.
If you don't want the illegal, how many illegals do you think Donald Trump has working in his places?
His biggest donor is the woman who owns casinos in Vegas.
I mean, she's against the, you know, she wants illegal aliens there.
There are more in Texas, Vegas, and Florida.
I mean, probably three-quarters of them are there.
You don't see ICE clogging up streets there, starting fights.
You know, I heard a woman said, oh, God, clown from Arkansas talk about speaking English.
I have a neighbor of mine from Haiti.
He's been here 20 years, got a degree, works a full-time job.
He's got another job because he's being deported in two weeks, filled out all the paperwork, did everything right.
He's being deported.
I mean, this guy is great.
Why you would want him out of here, I don't know.
But I mean, all this has pretty much been a stunt.
I believe Trump and Steve Miller were hoping that there were, you know, some shots fired.
I think they were hoping that one of these ICE guys got shot, to be honest with you.
They were clogging up streets.
I mean, it's a small town.
It's a small town, and they sent thousands of ICE agents.
You know, this was, as far as I can tell, this was all sort of planned.
Hopefully, they wanted to do this and it backfired on them.
jasmine wright
Stephen from Arizona, a Republican?
You're next.
What'd you think about Tom Holman's comments?
Good morning, Stephen.
What'd you think about Tom Holman's comments?
unidentified
I think Tom Holman, he's been in politics for years.
I mean, Obama decorated him for being such a great deporter during Obama's, the great deporter president.
I want to know where all the Democrats were during Obama's reign when he deported 3.2 million with no due process.
64 died in cages.
You know, where were all these Democrats during that time?
I think the only thing that's changed is the narrative.
Because a quarter of the callers that I hear call in, they use the word Gestapo and Nazi.
The kid who killed Charlie Kirk, no record, put fascists on his bullet.
I mean, this is coming from the left.
The deaths are on the left.
All they had to do was turn in these criminals.
They turned him into Obama during his campaign.
And Obama didn't have to deal with 11 million to 15 million to 20 million that they let into the country.
And if you could look at his YouTube speeches, he says if you break the law, you break the law.
And this targeting thing, I work at a dealership in Flagstaff, Arizona.
They came and took a kid who was there five years.
He was Mexican.
Today they would say, oh, they targeted him.
I mean, it's just ridiculous how the left is just blowing this up.
And there's just no common sense on their side.
Klobucha, where was she during the Obama administration?
Why didn't she talk about Fry's what he's done with Medicare in his state?
The corruption that went on there.
Not a word about that.
It's about Trump.
That's the only city in the country this is going on.
jasmine wright
Stephen, can I read you one article quickly while you're on the line?
Because you mentioned about how Democrats haven't said or didn't say anything during Obama.
I have a politico article here from 2016, from January 2016.
The headline is Democrats Lash Out at Obama over Immigration Raids.
It says Democrats and immigrant rights groups have turned against the Obama administration in an uproar over recent deportation raids, likening the president to Bombasket GOP frontrunner Donald Trump and warning him that the controversial strategy will tarnish his legacy on immigration.
And so I guess to your point, there was some pushback.
unidentified
So I wonder how you see those two things being different between now and that's a point that I'm glad you made, but I did notice that they didn't call ICE Gestapo and they didn't call ICE Nazis.
I mean, I hear that a quarter of your calls call in.
That's what they're using that word.
And I don't think they have any thought of real history of what they did, what they killed six million Jews.
You know, who knows how many political that they killed and shot.
And this kid who shouldn't have died had a confrontation with the cops a week or two before.
jasmine wright
11 days before.
unidentified
11 days before.
Now he goes and he's got a loaded gun with two magazines full.
I mean, you can say he might have used it or you can say, well, he would have never used it, but why did he bring that to the, you know, and then get involved?
And it's, you know, the guy is no saint.
He shouldn't have died, but he's been radicalized in some way, just like the kid who killed Charlie Kirk.
And it's sad that a lot of our young people are getting radicalized to stand up to common sense.
And on my end, and the Republicans that I talk to feel that this is insane.
There's no common sense on the left side.
Freddie, Amnesty, and National Security Threats 00:06:28
jasmine wright
Stephen from Arizona, thanks for calling in.
And of course, Tom Homan in that press conference, which will play again at 10 a.m., called for the rhetoric against ICE agents to stop.
Freddie from Indianapolis, a Democrat, you're next.
rabbi chaim mentz
Hello there.
jasmine wright
Hello there, Freddie.
rabbi chaim mentz
Yes.
unidentified
First of all, I got a couple of things I want to speak of.
jasmine wright
Okay.
Is one of them responding to Tom Homan?
unidentified
Well, I wise didn't.
rabbi chaim mentz
I love me trying to bring the temperature down a little bit.
I'm all for that.
unidentified
Okay.
rabbi chaim mentz
Anyway, a couple things I want to speak up is one, when Obama was deporting when that's president, we didn't have ICE agents running all up and down the street and harassing people.
Also, I keep hearing people say millions and millions of immigrants came across the border illegally.
My understanding is that once you set foot on U.S. soil and you ask for amnesty, you should be granted amnesty or at least put up in this country until you get a court hearing.
And I'm willing to bet you there's less than 250,000 people who came in here under Joe Biden who didn't ask for amnesty.
So they're not illegals.
Our laws tell us that once an immigrant set foot on U.S. soil and asks for amnesty, you are not granted amnesty, but you are allowed to come in here until you're here, till you get a hearing.
And that's what these people are waiting on, hearings.
unidentified
Thank you.
jasmine wright
Freddie from Indianapolis.
Mike from Nebraska, an independent, you're next.
unidentified
Hi.
I just wanted to say, hi, how are you today?
jasmine wright
I'm doing well.
unidentified
How are you?
Good.
I just wanted to say those, the last caller, it's asylum.
They're probably wanting asylum, not amnesty.
But the two things from Homan's press conference I wanted to mention.
One is he talked about law enforcement.
And I just want to say, whether it's a local cop or ICE agent, when they ask you to do something, just do it.
I mean, that way people are going to be safe.
There's no reason to fight with them, to argue with them.
The other, my biggest concern, though, why I wanted to call today was he was talking about national security threats.
And I live in Nebraska.
I go to Minnesota all the time.
So, you know, if you live in Minnesota, you aren't forced to stay in Minnesota.
You can go wherever you want.
And I know that from things that I've read, there could have been at least 20,000 Chinese nationals that crossed the border.
Now, some of them were vetted.
Some of them maybe weren't.
But they always talk about China as an adversary.
And I think if we have open borders where people from any country can come in for any reason, that is a big concern.
And I think what Homan said is there's national security threats that they're trying to get out of the United States.
Whether you're an independent, a Republican, or a Democrat, I think you have to agree it's important that we know who's in the country, especially if they're coming from other countries, because not all countries want us to do well and to be safe.
So anyway, to all of my fellow Americans, I think what we need to do is just try to cooperate, have conversations, and stay safe.
Have a good day.
jasmine wright
Mike from Nebraska.
Kevin from New York, a Republican.
You're next.
Kevin, I wonder if you have a response to Tom Homan's comments earlier today.
unidentified
Good morning.
jasmine wright
Good morning.
unidentified
I live in Long Island.
Okay.
I live next door to illegal immigrants.
It's always been a targeted attack.
Not an attack, I'm sorry.
It's always been targeted.
My next-door neighbors live in an two-bedroom apartment.
Six people live in it.
They had pictures of two of them.
They took the two.
They ran the other two and they got left alone.
It's always been who they are looking for.
They try to do the right thing.
I bless the Border Patrol.
I stand with the Border Patrol.
I stand with Donald Trump.
And it's just sad that the American people are going so crazy about this whole situation.
It is a sad, sad world we're living in.
I have children.
I want them to grow up in a beautiful America.
And this is not the America that I'm raising.
It's just crazy what's going on here.
And it is sad.
And the lies that are being spread about these gentlemen that are doing a job that they get paid for, that they work very hard, they're doing their job.
That is their job.
Just like we go to work and we do our job, they are trying to do a job that they are getting paid to do.
And then it's, they're going after the bad people.
I've seen it with my own eyes, my neighbors.
The three good ones or the four good ones, they left alone.
They had two men that they were looking for.
They took the two men out, and that's all they did.
jasmine wright
Karen from Tampa, Florida, a Democrat, you're next.
Karen, you've got about 30 seconds.
I wonder if you want to briefly respond to Tom Homan's comments earlier.
Yes, please.
Thank you.
unidentified
About the border, if Republicans could just really quick get a pen and write this down, Trump killed the bipartisan border security bill well over two years ago.
Remember, Trump wanted to use it for his campaign.
Remember, Marjorie Taylor Green, Matt Gates, they all voted against the bill because Trump told them to.
All the migrants that entered in the past two years were under Trump's direction.
This is simple, simple research.
It's even easy for MEGA.
MEGA can look it up, look up the bill.
Now Trump con man, big-time con man.
jasmine wright
Okay, that's all we have time for this morning.
Another edition of Washington Journal will be coming your way at 7 a.m. tomorrow.
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