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I’M BACK! And STILL Asking Questions (Sorry Brigitte). | Candace Ep 233

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candace owens ▲ ● ▼		All right, you guys, happy Thursday.
		I am so sorry that I've been gone.
		I promise I'm going to explain everything to you in this episode.
		We're gonna make this episode extra long because I feel like we have to do that.
		Foremost, I just want to give a special shout out to white people today, because what you guys did with Cracker Barrel, it was honestly inspiring.
		So we're gonna briefly discuss what happened there.
		Um before we do, I have to tell you, I am obsessed with the Stanford experiment right now.
		I know we left you guys in a bit of a cliffhanger, but now things have grown increasingly more interesting.
		So let's jump right back into this.
unidentified		Welcome back to Candace.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		It's actually comedian Tim Dylan that's asking the important questions right now.
		So let's roll a clip.
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		Does the president of France's wife have a c or not?
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		That's the question.
		And do you know what I was thinking while I had some time?
		I was thinking, isn't it interesting that Jean-Michel Troguneau didn't sue me?
		Like, wouldn't that actually make more legal sense?
		Because in America, it's virtually impossible to sue a public figure because of the actual malice standard.
		Like you have to prove, you know, because I think that public figures, it's a part of the public interest.
		People are allowed to cover them and ask questions.
		And you have to meet what's known as the actual malice standard, which I think I've explained in the past, but essentially that this person knew the truth 100% and acted in reckless regard of it just because they didn't like the individual, they just had malice against them.
		But if Jean-Michel Trogneau had sued me, that standard would have been removed.
		Jean Michel Trogu could have said, excuse me, this person is saying that I transitioned into my my sister, and that's not appropriate.
		And then they would they would perhaps have a very legitimate claim if they could prove that I knew the truth.
		But they're not doing that.
		John Michel Troguneau is not suing me.
		They are not interested actually in exploring that at all.
		I wonder why that is.
		Or maybe Jean Michel Troguneau is suing me under a new name, Brigitte Macron.
		And look, I I also want to say there's a tiny piece of me that feels bad for Emmanuel Macron.
		Because I was speaking with somebody and they were asking, you know, why do you think that this sitting president of France actually filed this lawsuit in America?
		It's completely crazy.
		And then suddenly it dawned on me.
		OMG.
		I think that Brigitte and Emmanuel thought that if they filed this lawsuit, that I would just be a normal person and shut up because most people would just be, oh, I'm being sued, let me just shut up for a little bit.
		But no, that is not, that's not how things work in America.
		They don't understand the cultural differences between America and France.
		You can't just file a lawsuit to make an American shut up, right?
		Noisy is actually our brand.
		Like we take pride in not minding our own business.
		That's who we are.
		Like we don't know our forks from our knives.
		We're not going away.
		And we are going to figure out what happened to Jean Michel Trogneau.
		So guess what I've done?
		I have actually um started the process of emailing them even more questions this week.
		More questions because I I want to get to the bottom of this for the entire world.
		And we recently left you guys on a cliffhanger, okay?
		And it's getting interesting.
		Something actually has me completely seized.
		I am obsessed.
		I'm locked in, like nothing else matters.
		I have my team working on this 24-7.
		So many of you guys actually pointed out, accurately pointed out rather, um, that when we introduced to you guys the individual that kind of looks like Jean-Michel Trogneau that was a part of the Stanford prison experiment.
		It showed up in a documentary, that side image, like who is this person.
		And many of you guys emailed us and said, okay, but Canis, look further into those documents.
		And prisoner number 2093 that participated in this experiment, looks a lot like our missing boy, right?
		Like that looks like Jean-Michel Trogneau.
		And I have to say, like initially I was, I put it at a low percentage, but I'm exploring every single lead.
		I said, okay, I'm, I'm, I'll just do a little light research into this topic.
		And there's a couple of things that I want you to remember as I unpack to you what happened next.
		Okay.
		First and foremost, Jean-Michel Trogneau goes missing for like a decade, more than a decade.
		And we know for a fact a couple of things that he was involved in throughout those missing years.
		Okay.
		Things that I want you to remember.
		One, Brigitte, the current first lady, has already said that she was in the United States and quote unquote experienced the moon landing.
		Okay.
		I was there when Armstrong walked on the moon.
		Okay, that's that's NASA.
		Remember that.
		That's one.
		Two, we know that Jean Michel Trogneau was in engineering school.
		That's where the photo comes from.
		That was very difficult for Xavier Poussard to get his hands on.
		Okay, so there's an engineering angle, there's a NASA angle.
		And lastly, of course, we know that Jean-Michel Trogneau was in the military, military, moon landing, and NASA, and engineering.
	Lean in now, you guys, because it's going to get interesting.
	So we told you about that random message, obviously, that we got.
	Hey, there's a Shea MT lookalike in the documentary.
	That was about a simulated prison experiment.
	It happened in 1971 at Stanford University campus.
	Okay.
	That was that side photo again.
	And there were a couple of things that immediately caught my attention.
	Foremost, why is Hulu making a documentary about an experiment that happened back in 1971?
	Doesn't that seem sort of random?
	I don't to me like a little bit, it's a little bit random.
	So I decided to look into that initially.
	And the story goes that this Stanford prison experiment got back into the news because a man named Thibault Letexier, he is French.
	Interesting, suddenly became overcome with interest in this prison experiment that happened in 1971.
	Latexier is not a psychologist.
	He does not have a background in psychology.
	In fact, he had never published a book before he published this book, which for whatever reason got very popular.
	He was in business management.
	That was his background.
	He had published an authored papers pertaining to business management.
	But suddenly this guy gets a book deal and he publishes a book to debunk this obscure, I would say, if you're French, this is an obscure experiment that happened in 1971.
	And I think now it's it's important for me to explain to you what the definition is of a limited hangout.
	Okay.
	This expression, a limited hangout.
	Essentially, a limited hangout happens when the government wants to prevent citizens from looking into a specific incident or specific case.
	They want citizens to literally stop asking questions.
	So what they do is they try to manufacture a tell-all, right?
	Like, oh, I'm actually going to tell you things that you've never known before.
	We're going to tell you everything.
	And the idea here is that the public will think that some random independent person has stepped into the public eye and is telling them everything that they're not supposed to know.
	So they're kind of being invited into the secret.
	And oh my gosh, we're hearing all of this stuff.
	It's so detailed.
	I guess me, a person that's a member of the public, I no longer have to look into that matter Myself, because thankfully we have this guy to do it for us.
	That's exactly what happened with the Charles Manson murders.
	Remember the prosecutor in that case, Vincent Bugliosi, he wrote the official book, Helter Skelter, and it was a best selling book at that time.
	Everyone believed that he was giving them a detailed, never before seen account of the who, the what, the when, the where, the why, the how, and therefore nobody else had to look.
	This guy knew everything.
	Except he lied, right?
	About everything.
	And it took author and journalist Tom O'Neill writing that book that I rave about chaos, uh, about the CIA and the secret history of the 60s.
	It is such a point, it is really a potent book.
	Everyone should read it.
	Um, and then we learned through his book that it was just one big CIA performance, essentially.
	We still don't really have answers of what happened on that night.
	Uh, and I don't know that we're ever going to get those answers.
	But we do know that it was one big CIA performance.
	They were involved at every level of what happened on that night.
	And their goal was to socially engineer American society.
	So I am keenly aware of limited hangouts.
	I never accept someone saying that they're doing an official debunking on something.
	I need to debunk it myself personally.
	So, anyways, this guy, this French guy, Thibaut Letexier, the story goes, despite having no background in psychology and only having ever written about business management in the past, he says that he watched a TED talk in 2013 that Philip Zimbardo, who was the Stanford psychologist that enacted this experiment.
	He said he watched that TED talk and he just became obsessed with the experiment.
	And he wanted to at first make a short film about it, but for years that didn't really work.
	Anyways, here is a clip of him explaining on that recent Hulu documentary how he got involved in this case.
	Take a listen.
unidentified		In the 50 years since the experiment, no one had done as extensive research as you.
thibault le texier ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
		It started as a side project.
		I used to do found footage films and I discovered the Stanford Prison Experiment.
		I'd heard about it but never really digged into it.
		I decided to fund a trip to Stanford to go through the archive.
		Because I wanted to build a film from the archive.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		He uh says that he spent a week at Stanford crawling through everything.
		Again, this is a grand debunking.
		He says, like, you know, this actually was not that objective of an experiment.
		And Philip Zimbardo lied.
		So that already feels like, oh, he's telling us the truth, right?
		Which he is telling us the truth.
		Uh, Philip Zimbardo did tell a lot of lies about how that experiment came together.
		And I downloaded Latexier's book, and he reiterates like he tried to make a film, it didn't work out.
		And then suddenly he pivoted and said, you know what?
		I'm just going to make this into a book.
		And voila, I guess somebody just gave him a book deal.
		Except I know that that's not how book deals work.
		You can't just be a person that's in business management and go to uh uh a place and say, hey, look, I have this idea.
		I'm gonna write this book.
		I've been looking into this case in the background, like, you know, just give me a book publishing deal.
		It doesn't, that's just not how things work.
		You have to to be somebody to get those deals.
		Maybe Jordan Peterson saying, oh, this experiment is really important.
		I'd like to sell a book, and they say yes, because a publisher's goal is to make money, right?
		They want to make money.
		Nobody knows who you are.
		Why would we, why are we discussing this in France?
		Like the Stanford experiment from 50 years ago.
		Uh, I'm not sold on this narrative.
		We'll never know, obviously, anyway.
		Latexier then does publish this book.
		He published this official debunking.
		The book is entitled Investigating the Stanford Prison Experiment, History of a Lie.
		And what's interesting is that he publishes this book in March of 2018.
		Uh, that's exactly the time that Emmanuel McCrone is inaugurated into the Elysee Palace alongside Brigitte Macron.
		I kid you not.
		So I'm like, okay, one point, that's interesting.
		Like I told you, um, as I was going through this book that I had downloaded, my interest was further piqued by his acknowledgments page.
		Traditionally, You are supposed to acknowledge people in your book who helped you to put the book together, and he certainly does that.
		He thanks the prisoners who contributed to his investigation.
		He thanks the people that published his book.
		He thanks some of the documentary filmmakers, but he also thanks someone that caught my eye that has his last name, Letexier.
		It's a woman named Ramonde Letexier.
		And I obviously can't mind my own business.
		So I was like, who's that?
		Is that your mama?
		Like, who's that?
		And right now I'm making an assumption.
		Maybe there are multiple people who have that exact name.
		Maybe it's a very popular name, Latexier in France.
		But it appears that Raymond Letexier was the former senator, a former senator in France, a senator in the socialist party who worked alongside Emmanuel Macron because he was at first before he started his own party on Marsh, he was a member and a minister in the Socialist Party, remember?
		But again, that could be a coincidence.
		Maybe a Ramond Letexier helped him in a different way.
		We're not sure.
		I will go out to him with questions.
		But again, it was enough to keep me looking into the story.
		The documentary then becomes interesting because why did Hulu pick this up?
		It seems obscure.
		It seems irrelevant.
		There's nothing happening right now that people are going back and looking at this experiment.
		So not only does he get this book deal, but then there's a young woman who comes to him and says, hey, like I want to turn that into a documentary.
		And that person's name is Juliette Eisner.
		So I'm looking into Juliet, and she gave this interview, and she says, I speak French, like I'm French.
		And I'm going, okay, what?
		This American girl is French.
		What's happening here?
		And I start looking into her.
		And curiously that she that she even did this, by the way, that the Hulu documentary is just not good.
	And prior to that, the only time that she had directed a documentary was like 10 years ago.
	And it was called Lil Bub and Friends.
	And it was about cats on social media or whatever.
	Okay.
	So I learned like that's probably, you know, she's probably connected somehow.
	I learned her mother is very French.
	She's from a very wealthy family in France.
	Her mother's surname is Courtial, spelled C-O-U-R-T-I-A-L.
	And honestly, it could be another coincidence, but there's a guy named Edward Courtial, who is the current senator of that same department, the Oise department, that the Ramon Latexier woman was a senator in.
	So I'm like, okay.
	Um, Edward Cortell, by the way, Skyler, you just want to triple check that picture to make sure that's the right guy.
	I hadn't seen the bottom of him.
	Okay, he's aged.
	Okay.
	Different, looks a lot different from his Wikipedia.
	Uh, there you go.
	Wow, an incredible.
	You can really just catfish anybody, right?
	Anyways, it was enough to make me go, okay, why is France suddenly interested in this experiment?
	Why is this girl, Juliette Eisner suddenly interested?
	Like I said, her background is in cats of Instagram.
	That was the last documentary that she had directed about famous cats.
	And it's like naked nepotism, right?
	I just clearly, like, you did this documentary and got this deal with Hulu because of who you know, not because of any talent that you have.
	And I get locked in.
	I'm reading through Latexier's book, and I notice something that I would describe as a very big lie by omission.
	Latexier is describing the prisoners in this experiment.
	You know, the idea is that this guy, Philip Zimbardo, just put an ad in the newspaper and said that he was looking for college age students, undergrads, graduates and whatever, to sign up for this experiment.
	And then he locks them a week later into a basement.
	And he determines that even after 48 hours, the prisoners are all crazy.
	And it shows that we are intrinsically evil, right?
	And people will do crazy things just because they're amongst a crowd of other people who are doing crazy things.
	Latexier describes the prisoners, the prisoners that were selected for this experiment, in a really weird way.
	Plus, The documentary also describes them in this way.
	Like they're a bunch of middle class college kid nobodies who signed up for this experiment that was funded by the Naval Research Center.
	Specifically, Latexier writes this, okay.
	He says there's no need to multiply portraits to understand that the participants are not interchangeable.
	They have nothing in common, right?
	And that the lives that intersect in Zimbardo's prison follow distinct trajectories.
	Each one has his sensitivity, his family, his past, his beliefs, his values, his studies, his certainties, his dreams, and his expected future.
	Some are shy and others are extroverted.
	Some are 18, others are 25.
	They have nothing in common.
	Right?
	We don't need to look any further.
	I don't know.
	But for me personally, I felt like when he said there's no need to multiply portraits of the prisoners, I felt like I needed to multiply the portraits.
	I needed to look into the background of all of these prisoners.
	And what I discovered again was this lie by omission that was happening from the author.
	The uh prisoners, it turns out, he forgot to mention this, were all specifically linked to engineering.
	They were also very specifically linked to the military.
	And in most cases, oddly, they were linked to NASA.
	NASA plus engineering plus the military.
	And no, these were not just some random students that were floating through the wind and needed some money.
	Okay.
	Uh, it's difficult for me to underscore how dishonest that narrative is.
	And I'm going to do it by showing you a part of this Hulu documentary, okay.
	One of the guards was a man named Chuck Burton.
	You're going to see him at the end of this clip.
	These are all of the participants or a few of the participants describing their background and why they signed up.
	Take a listen to this documentary before I reveal to you who Chuck Burton really is.
	Take a listen.
unidentified		I saw an ad in the newspaper that they were doing a prison experiment and that they were paying $15 a day.
		Wasn't that bad for minimum wage type work?
		It was $15 a day and three meals in a roof.
		And a padded bed.
		And I thought, I've just arrived.
thibault le texier ▲ ● ▼		And that sounded good for me.
thibault le texier ▲ ● ▼		I didn't have any money.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		That sounds good to me.
		I didn't have any money, Chuck Burton said.
		Elsewhere, he describes how he was just backpacking, you know, just like a hitchhiker.
		And sometimes he would do some accounting.
		Do we have that clip of him speaking about his accountant, Skylar?
		Okay.
		Well, he talks about because we watched the documentary about how, like, when he would run out of money as he was backpacking, he would then, you know, do a little bit of accounting to make some money and then back to backpacking, you know, just your average guy who needed some cash.
		The truth actually is Chuck Burton is a descendant of the Rothschilds.
		Like, what?
		Are you kidding me?
		His father was Otto Hurstat of like Herstatt Bank.
		His mother was born in Germany, a descendant of the Rothschilds.
		And the reason why he's traveling all over is just as his mother expresses.
		That's what they did because they had orchards, an unbelievable amount of wealth, as you would expect and anticipate from the Rothschild descendants.
		I mean, like literally, Otto Hurdstadt owned Sears, partially, like Sears, the company that was like so big.
		It is insane that this person is representing himself as somebody who was broke in college.
		But there's more.
		It's not just him.
		I want you to take a look at the spreadsheet that I put together.
		Again, I was interested in going, okay, once I saw the pattern emerging of engineering and NASA and uh the military affiliation.
		And I'm not talking like, oh, my dad served in the military during World War II.
		I am talking like the top of the military.
		Okay.
		People that should have naturally been, if you were trying to make this a real experiment, the first thing that Latexier should have debunked was the idea that the results mattered, because, well, if it's funded by the military and you pick a bunch of wealthy military kids, it probably the results might be a bit tainted, is what I would say.
		There might not be any control in this experiment.
		You know, Doug Corpy, his father was Peter Korpa, who was the head of nuclear power and atomic energy at Bechtel, but the Bechtel Corf, the military corporation.
		His father was also a member of the National Society of Professional Engineers.
		Um, uh, Clay Ramsey, it turns out he was a Marine who was working on a merchant ship in particular, which we're trying to prod further because the Ramsey last name is very popular, but I will get to the bottom of it.
		There's Richard Yacko.
		His father was Samuel Yaco.
		Sam Yako was in the US Navy.
		Oh, naval research, and worked for NASA.
		His father was a NASA engineer.
		Richard produced and directed commercials for NASA.
		Glenn Ghee, the last name, was way too popular, but we at least knew that he graduated from Stanford University with a degree in chemical engineering a year before this experiment.
		I would bet whoever his father is, he had some connection to NASA.
		Paul Baron worked for Halliburton.
		His uh we're still confirming this, but it's likely that his father is also Paul Baron, who was the electrical engineer that worked for the Rand Corporation.
		Uh Stuart Levin worked for Halliburton under the Energy Services and Standard Oil as a geophysicist.
		He also graduated from Stanford.
		We're trying to confirm because Levin is a very popular last name, who exactly his father was, we have an idea.
		Jim Roney's father is Captain James Rooney of the Mofit Naval Air Base.
		Oh, could this be a conflict if the Navy is funding this experiment to have Captain James Rooney of Moffat Naval Air Base's son participating in the results of this experiment?
		His father was also the commander of the ship that recovered the Apollo 8.
		Again, this weird NASA thing.
		His father was a naval aeronautical engineer who was the director of science and engineering at the Naval Academy.
		Conflict much.
		We're still working on this spreadsheet.
		Skylar, if you could um scroll down here, uh we've got Davil David Eshelman, because we had the guards here.
		Uh David Eshelman, his father worked as an electrical technician in the Navy.
		Um, and then his father went to go work for NASA.
		His father worked for NASA on all of the Apollo missions.
		He was a professor at Stanford during the time of the experiment, and he founded the Stanford Department of Radar Astronomy.
		He was also an engineer who oversaw radio experiments between the Stanford Dish and the Pioneer Six Through Nine space probes.
		John Mark, we are still looking into, obviously a popular last name.
		Um, but uh he worked for Kaiser Permanente and graduated from Stanford University, and his father was a professor at Stanford University.
		We also know that John Mark spent a year in France leading up to this experiment.
		So that's interesting.
		Carl von Orsdl, his father is William von Orsdoll, who served in World War II as a Coast Guard in Okinawa, and then worked for Lockheed.
		Like now it's Lockheed DeMartin, like Lockheed, for the rest of his career.
		And his father, of course, worked in the aerospace industry for Hughes Aircraft because, like I said, there was this strange NASA theme that's happening.
		I told you guys about Chuck.
		That is wild that he presented himself as broke, completely crazy.
		Uh, we're still going through these guards.
	Uh, Craig Haney was in the Air Force.
	His father was Alan Haney, who was a Marine of the USS Iowa.
	He carried FDR to Algeria.
	We believe that that is that that was the mission that he was on.
	So what's happening here?
	What's happening here?
	That we are hitting these themes in this experiment that French people are very interested in debunking at this moment.
	Nothing to see here, you guys.
	We've looked through everything.
	Here's what else, ready?
	Curiously, the only prisoner whose identity has not been revealed is prisoner number 2093.
	That's the only prisoner who we don't know who that is.
	We have no idea what that person's name is.
	This person was given two different pseudonyms.
	Um, first Tom Thompson, then Tom Williams.
	I need to know who that individual is.
	We could actually show you a clip of this individual, uh, Skylar from the Stanford archives that are available online.
	Take a look at this.
	It's super grainy.
unidentified		You got your hands in the air.
unidentified		Why don't you play Frankens fan?
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		You're gonna be the bride of Frankenstein fan.
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		You stay in here.
unidentified		You come over there.
		You should act for that.
		You be the bride of Prankers fan.
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		And you be Frankens fan.
unidentified		I want you to walk over here like Pine Fan and say that you love two man.
		Walk like Frank Fan.
		Yeah, you can walk like you.
		I love you, children.
		Get up, folks.
		Get up, bro.
		I love you, Church.
		I love you, QA.
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		You have smile tool, buddy!
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		You get back up your pin pusher.
unidentified		Two, three.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Fake and gay.
		The entire experiment, I am telling you, the more that I've read about it, it is completely crazy that they were allowed to do this.
		And for whatever reason, they're holding on to this one prisoner, 2093.
		We can't tell you anything about him.
		We're citing privacy.
		But every other prisoner we can tell you all about, just not 2093.
		I must know who this is.
		And you guys, I'm sorry to tell you this.
		You're you're, it's not just the experiment.
		That's fake and gay.
		So was the moon landing.
		You might not be ready for that.
		I'm sorry, you guys.
		It's all one big drama club performance.
		And there are reasons for these performances done at this magnitude.
		But when I think of drama, and I think of military, and I think of engineering, and I think of NASA.
		I know that I cannot rest until I figure out who this prisoner is.
		Maybe we find out it's not.
		Uh Jean-Michel Trogno.
		Happy, happy to find out it's not.
		But I think we know Brigitte was here in 1969.
		And um, yeah, it's just getting very, very interesting.
		And I am like a dog with a bone.
		I will not let this go.
		We cannot rest people until we get more answers.
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	All right, guys, here is where we are at right now.
	We need cracker barrel energy.
	Okay, that's the new term.
	That's the new, that's the new move.
	Cracker barrel energy worldwide.
	Email tips at CandaceOwens.com.
	You were at Stanford, you saw something.
	And by the way, there is, there are some people who graduated Stanford that are telling me some things and going to share them.
	But first, for my overseas audience that isn't really tracking what I mean when I say cracker barrel energy.
	I'll very quickly run you through what happened.
	Essentially, there is this restaurant chain.
	It's called Cracker Barrel.
	It has been around since 1969.
	It was actually started right here in the great state of Tennessee.
	I would say it was started in Lebanon, Tennessee.
	Savannah would pass away and tell me it's Lebnan.
	It's Lebanon, Tennessee.
	So there's room for debate there.
	But anyways, right here in the South of America.
	And recently, their corporate headquarters announced that they were going a little bit woke.
	They were going to ditch certain menu items that sounded, I guess, a little bit too southern.
	And they were going to change the inside of the store, making everything super clinical looking.
	Plus, they were going to change the logo.
	Okay.
	The logo here on the left is the cracker barrel logo that it was forever since 1969.
	You can see there's an old man and there is a barrel and there is a cracker.
	On the right is what corporate said they were doing.
	Corporate said we're gonna get rid of all of that.
	There will be no human beings.
	And uh all I can tell you is the white people rioted.
	They I was on Instagram, cracking up, enjoying, applauding.
	They would not let it go.
	They said, oh no, no, no, no, no, no.
	Put that old man back, or we are we're not going to, we're not going to Crocker Barrel anymore.
	Okay.
	And um, celebrities got involved.
	Britney's Brittany Aldean and Jason Aldean, the country singer, they were posted up on Instagram.
	I don't know if we have a photo of that.
	Brittany Brittany wrote, I love this girl.
	Breakfast ate this morning.
	We would be at Cracker Barrel, but y'all been acting a fool.
	She didn't play around.
	You know, she's she is from Alabama and they were, like I said, they didn't care.
	The South said, We're not moving, we're done.
	Okay.
	The result was that their sales took a complete hit.
	Okay.
	Uh, I think they lost like a hundred million dollars.
	It was crazy in one milk in one week, like a hundred million dollars just wiped from the market.
	And they gave in.
	Cracker barrel said, okay, we messed up.
	We are going to return the logo.
	They wrote this on Instagram.
	We thank our guests for sharing your voices and your love for Cracker Barrel.
	We said we would listen and we have our new logo is going away, and our old timer will remain at Cracker Barrel.
	It's always been and always will be about serving up delicious flu food, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified		Okay.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you why this actually matters.
		This was not something that was obscure.
		And it is a part of a larger conversation that you actually see me have tomorrow about what they are doing.
		It is a spiritual attack on the idea of ancestry.
		Uh, nothing can be old.
		Everything must be new.
		They want everybody to look the same.
		There will be no personality in anything.
		They will turn us into AI bots.
		That is actually the explicit goal.
		You may not realize that.
		Actually, if you're watching this podcast, you probably do realize that.
		But they don't ever want you to think that you have ancestry.
		Even the way they're making homes, it's ugly.
		Everything is ugly.
		And there's a reason for that.
		They don't want you to think that structures have existed.
		They want you to think that you're just floating through the wind and nothing matters.
		Your family doesn't matter, ancestry doesn't matter.
		Everything yesterday is gone.
		We are living in an ever present.
		And so it was actually important for people to stand up and say, you know what?
		It's been a year.
		Okay.
		It's actually been a year of some BS.
		We are not recovered at all, and we will not let go of the Jeffrey Epstein files.
		You're gaslighting us.
		We hate you, government.
		We're not stupid.
		We understand that you elites are creating this plantation of sameness.
		We understand that you're making our kids dumb intentionally.
		No one's passed.
		Oh, we're getting rid of AP classes.
		There'll be no honors classes, no test scores.
		We're not even gonna track how dumb we're making your kids anymore.
		We're aware, we are tuned into what you are doing and how much you hate us.
		And we want you to know we hate you back.
		Okay.
		We hate you back.
		We are going to keep that same energy and tell you that you're not going to get our business and you're not gonna wipe us away.
		And of course, there has always been this target.
		They want everyone to believe everything can be multicultural and you shouldn't think about it, and you're backwards and you're racist if you want to see an old white man or something.
		And I genuinely was applauding that white people said no, and they made corporate bend the knee.
		And we all need to keep that energy when it comes.
		We need to stay focused, and we need to just say we are not going to tolerate this.
		This is a no from all of us.
		We are aware that perverts are running the world.
		That's reality.
		Okay.
		That is the reality.
		Perverts are running the world, and we're not gonna let it go.
		I want to introduce you guys now appropriately to me not letting things go ever.
		Still obsessed with this Stanford experiment.
		Another interesting lead that came from a Stanford student.
		Uh, they said, Hey, I don't know if you know this, but as a former Stanford student, I knew that we could access news archives to see what was published in like the Stanford newspaper at that time in the 70s.
		And again, this could be nothing, but I'm gonna chase down and debunk everything.
		What they found in the archives was that there was a graduate student named Jean Michel that was a member of the French club.
		Um, and also Bechtel, like the military institute.
		Um, and I'm gonna read you what they found in the Stanford archive.
		Again, this is from the 70s.
		You can see they're talking about Bastille Day festivities, and they mentioned Jean Michel, a graduate, uh a graduate school of business student from France, exhilarated the audience with popular folk tunes from George Brassen, one of the most celebrated French folk singers.
		Okay, so we have a Jean Michel who is a graduate school student that is performing on the quad.
		And he also gets another mention in uh another uh Stanford archive clip.
		I don't know if you have that.
	I mean, Stanford Archive um newspaper.
	It says French Students Association, uh, Bechtel International Center.
	Again, that is like the military corp Beckle.
	Jean Michel will sing all the most successful songs of George Brossen.
	It sounds like Jean Michel, this graduate student, was into a bit of theater.
	So I'm interested.
	I'm interested because we looked through the graduation logs.
	You know, you can see who graduated, and there is not a Jean Michel that graduated from Stanford University that we could find.
	Maybe he dropped out, I don't know.
	But we have to put that out there in case you guys can find something that we cannot.
	Maybe you saw the Jean Michel that was performing for Bastille Day on the quad.
	Maybe you were there and went, I do remember that Jean-Michel.
	Let me send you a link.
	Please email us.
	Please email us whatever you can find.
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	We are all going to figure this thing out.
	And Tim Dylan, the comedian, American comedian who has been unnecessarily featured in this lawsuit, realizes the importance of figuring this thing out.
	He realizes that we are all in this thing in a rather hilarious segment speaking about his honorable mention.
	Here's what he had to say.
	Take a listen.
tim dillon ▲ ● ▼		The president of France's wife is suing Candace Owens who said she was a man.
		And I'm mentioned in that lawsuit.
		And that's actually.
		Because you start this business, you don't know where it's gonna go.
		I don't, I didn't know where it was gonna go when I started it.
		And that's what I'll tell people out there that are young and are walking down an uncertain path to this moment in their life where they realize it's all actually been worth it.
		There's a lot of people that are going, am I on the right path?
		Are the sacrifices worth it?
		And the answer is yes.
		Because I'm sitting before you today, named in a lawsuit.
		The president of France, his wife may or may not have a c we're all going to court to figure this out.
		We're going to court.
		We're all gonna figure out whether the uh uh president of France's wife has a c we don't know.
		We don't know.
		No one knows.
		And I'm mentioned in that lawsuit because I helped further the conversation.
		And that to me is something special.
		Is it a big movie?
		Who can't know?
		But what?
		No, who's doing that?
		What we're doing is advancing an important conversation in this on this earth.
		Does the president of France's wife have a or not?
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		I have to put Tim Dylan under oath, obviously.
		That has to happen.
		We have to do that for the culture.
		We have to ask him explicit questions about why he invited me onto his podcast, what he knows, potentially maybe he was working with Vladimir Putin.
		Of course, there could be a Russian angle there.
		Tim Dylan does look like he could maybe be friends with Vladimir Putin.
		I think that's objective.
		Um, and it's gonna get fun.
		And I am, I'm actually so excited because I have the power of subpoena.
		Like, you know what that means?
		The reason that you can hey, um, you don't get to say for privacy reasons, we're not telling you who Prisoner 2093 is.
		If there is something exculpatory here, you gotta give it to me.
		I'm sorry, Stanford.
		I'm excited about figuring out who prisoner 2093 is.
		And we all know where this is going to lead, by the way.
		It's not just Tim Dylan.
		It's also Cardi B. Cardi B, the rapper, you may have seen this clip going around.
		It is hilarious.
		We we don't even actually need the appropriate context.
		Okay.
		Cardi B, the rapper, had to testify recently in a court case that was brought against her.
		And I'm listening to what she is saying as she is being questioned about certain things, and I realized that this could actually be me answering questions about how I got involved in the Brigitte Macroad case.
		Let's roll the clip.
unidentified		I don't think I was like on a high level of angry.
unidentified		I was more on a high level of concern.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Very concerned.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		And why were you concerned?
unidentified		Because I'm pregnant.
		And this girl's about to f beat my ass.
		Hello.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Hello.
unidentified		Hello, I'm here.
		Um you said she's bigger than you.
		Is that correct?
		Absolutely.
		I don't know that.
		I mean, look.
		I'm looking, I agree with that.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		What are you?
unidentified		What is your basis?
		Are you saying she's physically bigger?
		She's taller.
		I mean, you you have her you have a medical record.
		I don't have anything.
		I won't ask for you the question.
		I mean, I was a hundred and thirty pounds at that time.
		So she's overweight, right?
		In your opinion.
		Objection, right?
		She's a little bit more.
		You don't need to answer.
		Okay.
candace owens ▲ ● ▼		Look, when they ask me how I got involved, I'm gonna be like, look, I was pregnant.
		I was, I would say, a little bit concerned about this story of a 14-year-old and a 40-year-old teacher.
		And then when they say, How do you know she's a man?
		I'm gonna be like you know, eyes here, obviously, something's going on.
		Anyways, it's gonna be great.
		It's gonna be fantastic.
		Welcome to America.
		It's a culture you don't understand.
		Okay, you only make us more interested.
		It's Cracker Barrel Alan GB are not letting this one go.
		We see you perverts.
		I can't wait until next week.
		So we start unpacking the new becoming Brigitte series.
		We're finally ready to do that.
		Okay, let's take another break quickly here, and then I'm gonna tell you guys where I have been and why I had to take some personal time.
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		Okay, now where I was.
		I always want to be extremely honest with you guys about everything that is happening in my life, as much as I can tell you everything that's happening and my life.
		And there is kind of the broader point that, you know, you take your kids to school, back to school, you drop your kids off.
		And tons of moms are posting themselves and just how upset they are with doing it, that something feels wrong.
		There is that that is very real, the first time that you drop your kids off at school.
		And the Catholic school shooting that happened last week.
		Again, we had another trans shooter.
		It really impacted me.
		It felt very close to home as a uh obviously as a Catholic.
		Also in Tennessee, we had the uh trans shooting that happened in Nashville, which was just a few blocks away from me.
	And so it just is starting to feel like it's getting close to home.
	And day in and day out, I am uh covering what's happening in, you know, the dark parts of the world.
	You know, we're talking about Epstein.
	We're talking about Emmanuel Macron, what happened to him?
	We're talking about the evil perverts in this world.
	And that kind of, I would say, earth-shattering moment where our government looked at us and tried to gaslight us about someone like Epstein, someone who admitted to the fact uh that he was sexually abusing minors.
	I mean, think about how crazy that is that our government's just like doesn't matter, keep it moving.
	It signals that the perverts are in control.
	And when you're reading this stuff day in and day out, uh, like I do, and you understand how uh vicious, how violent, how intentional, how dishonest our government is, and you're not sure if everyone else has gotten there, it can be really overwhelming.
	I was I felt very overwhelmed with that shooting, and I just needed to sort of like take a second, pause and feel like I was doing everything to guarantee that my kids were okay.
	And it was one of these stunning conversations where I was speaking to someone at the school.
	Like I have always had the intention to homeschool, uh, but you know, there's all of these programs during the day for toddlers.
	And I was speaking to somebody at the school about safety protocols.
	And I had that moment happen where they kind of look at you like, you know, what we're doing for safety is kind of not really your business.
	And these are kind of our kids.
	You know, when you get that feeling from a school where you're just sort of like, wait, is this my kid or is this your kid?
	And I just don't want to give in to that.
	I don't want to accept that the way that we are doing things is okay.
	It took radicals in government to sort of create this uh virtual plantation that we are on today.
	It they were, they were radicals.
	There's no question.
	And a lot of them were theater kids and protests and acting the part of things to give more power to the government.
	And you see that uh in terms of this shooter.
	I think I published something and I'm going, guys, like look into MK Ultra.
	Every shooter is exactly like the last shooter.
	Okay.
	This is not about whether you're a Democrat or whether you're a Republican.
	You just have to wake up and recognize that it is literally us versus them.
	Like their idea is to shrink the plantation for them to be less for there to be less slaves.
	They will use movements like Gloria Steinem feminism, you know, take birth control, go to work like men.
	And then you learn that that woman was a CIA plant and she was being funded by the CIA.
	They will use uh movements to get you to agree to do things that ultimately harm you in the end.
	And I don't blame people, by the way, who are new to understanding that because I was there too.
	Like we all went through the same public school system.
	We are all learning together just how evil the system is and just how, again, intentional that system has been made for us, this matrix that they have created.
	But I do think it's time for us to be equally as radical in saying, you know what?
	Everything the government has done has actually been unacceptable.
	None of this makes any sense.
	Why are you telling me that if I don't put my kids into school, I can go to prison?
	But also that, like, you know, there's no answer for why kids are uh getting dumber and dumber and dumber since the establishment of the department of education, the federal education system.
	You read books like uh like I read Thomas Sowell inside the American Education System, and you will, you will never unsee it.
	That it was really modeled by the Soviets, you know, that we are going to uh essentially program your children and we want your children to be overtly sexualized and we want your children to also hate you.
	And so I had all of that kind of swimming in and inside of my mind, and I just kind of need to take a pause and feel that I was committing myself further in every aspect of my life to providing an example to people that we shouldn't accept the way things are.
	Like we we should absolutely not accept the thing the way that things are.
	And I also just wanted to make sure like my kids were okay, you know, just really needing to think about you are my children okay?
	Am I doing everything that I can to make sure that they are secure and I just need to take a pause, you know?
	And on top of that, I got really sick.
	That's why you can kind of hear my voice.
	So it was kind of a timing where I felt spiritually sick about things that were happening in the world, but also I was physically sick.
	And I never want to come on to this platform and despair, you know.
	I never want anybody to feel like we can't make a difference.
	We actually can.
	There was some amazing news out of Florida.
	I think they are considering wiping away all vaccine mandates for kids.
	And yeah, that's a win, but I want you to know that that is a win because parents are saying no to vaccines.
	Like parents are saying, why do you not also get to access my child's mind, but arbitrarily access my children's bodies because you're the government and we somehow signed up for that, and that was made okay, and that doesn't make any sense.
	And what the government actually fears is what's happening right now, which is so many parents that are homeschooling and saying, yeah, no, we're not doing that.
	And we don't want to end up like Germany where you're not allowed to homeschool.
	I got an email from someone saying that in Germany, you are literally not allowed to homeschool, uh, which means that that prison is permanent in in Germany.
	Like they can just arrest you if you try to homeschool your children.
	So we have this short runway to make sure we don't end up that way, right?
	That we don't end up like Germany is without free speech.
	You can go to prison for questioning the World War II narrative.
	Um, you also have to hand over your children and your children's bodies uh to the government and the state.
	We have to be the generation of radical parents that undoes everything that the government did, especially throughout the 60s.
	I think they really were spiking the ball in the 60s and the 70s.
	And part of that is just through true education, true education and showing up and telling our kids what's real and what's not real, uh, being hawks, not allowing them to gaslight us to think that we don't have the right to ask questions about our children or what they're learning or what uh what um safety measures are being employed when they hire people.
	How does a Jeffrey Epstein get into a private school with no background in teaching and being an overt pervert?
	Like that's very scary to think about.
	And so uh yeah, I just wanted to kind of take a pause and come back feeling a bit refreshed and optimistic because we should be optimistic.
	We are seeing the results, uh, sort of the fruits of our intellectual labor everywhere.
	And so major win for parents, by the way, um, on the amount of parents that have taken their kids out of schools and are homeschooling them and realizing that that has always been what has made sense.
	Like we are, we are the parents.
	Uh okay, I'm gonna get into some of your guys' comments.
	First, want to tell you that uh we are getting into the birth control industrial complex right now.
	It is available the first episode for free on candisowens.com.
	I wanted you guys to see that because I think that will really help you understand how much your government hates you.
	They uh they're just poisoning us, they're poisoning your kids, been poisoning us for a long time.
	And when I learned the history of birth control, I was quite stunned.
	And this is somebody I I was pro-choice.
	I was uh very pro-birth control, uh, thinking people should, you know, people should take it.
	I kind of always felt weird that they were trying to sell it to me.
	But uh I definitely did not think there's there was anything wrong with other women taking it.
	And then I learned the history of birth control.
	And I went, oh, okay, that's just more of our government hating us and wanting to make sure that we don't procreate and that they will eventually control that, that you will have to come to them and they'll control IVF clinics and things of that nature.
	We have to get educated ourselves again, if we are going to reverse engineer things, uh, so to speak.
	So that uh a shot in the dark episode 23 is available for free on CandaceOwens.com.
	Uh maybe next week we'll also publish it onto YouTube because the facts are shocking.
	All right, let's see what you guys are thinking.
	Probably a lot that you're thinking.
	Don't forget anything.
	Find the Jean Michel that was in the 70s in Stanford.
	We cannot find him on graduation docs.
	Anything that you may know, maybe you saw this Sean Michel performing on the quad.
	Tips at CandaceOwens.com.
	John Diamond, wow.
	Thank you so much for that donation.
	He writes, we missed you so much, but every time I thought about missing you, number one, I really want you to have time with your beloved family.
	Number two, girl is powering up for more war.
	Number three, everything is fake and gay, but God is in charge and Candace is on point.
	That is such a great summation.
	Yeah.
	You know, you plug into your family and you realize um what actually matters and what what matters at the end of the day is we need to be radical when it comes to defending our families, um, especially the children.
	Like, especially the children.
	Marcy writes, welcome back, Candace.
	We missed you.
	Don't worry, you were not that late and gay to the stream.
	Thank you so much.
	I think we're only a couple of minutes late.
	I have also been dealing with this, like I said, it's strange cold that's going around.
	I feel like illnesses also have transformed, like whatever.
	They're just, they just like our, I now refer to it as our like regular dosing of poison from the government, like weird symptoms that we didn't have when we were kids, you know.
	Like, oh, I can't taste anything.
	Or I feel like I'm on a plane for six days.
	And I'm like, okay, we're just, they're just dropping the latest thing, you know, sending out the latest mosquitoes type of a thing.
	Cheryl Wells writes, oh my God, I've been going through candus with withdrawals.
	I am so glad you're back.
	Me too.
	I am so glad that I am back.
	Tui writes, I'm watching live on the phone, the iPad, and the TV.
	Much support from Brisbane in my eyes, you're a living legend.
	Uh, the Tongans of the Polynesia send their love.
	Please say hey, if you can, I am a fan.
	Okay.
	Well, to the Tongans of Polynesia, thank you so much.
	I appreciate that.
	I appreciate the support all over the world.
	I saw also a clip of Tucker Carlson speaking about how he was walking in Norway and one of my fans said, tell Candace that I I love her.
	And so to whoever that fan was in Norway, I love you back.
	That is actually amazing uh that you went up to Tucker Carlson, you said that.
	It means so much to me.
	The support around the world is why we keep doing this thing.
	And you guys, um, like when I was really feeling like, wow, I feel really upset about the fact that they're they've just been getting away with this for so long.
	I I'm always so picked up.
	Like when I saw you guys posting, like, is Candace okay?
	We're gonna send the police.
	My director was getting messages, my producer, Savannah.
	I can't tell you guys how much that just completely brightens me.
	And um, sometimes we all just need that.
	Like you need to remember that like there are such good people in the world.
	Like they are the minority.
	They know they're minor, they are the minority, the evil people.
	The good people are the majority.
	Uh, that experiment obviously was a complete act to justify those sadistic perverts doing whatever they want to do around the world.
	Uh the Stanford Prison Experiment, but the majority of people are actually intrinsically good.
	We're not intrinsically evil.
	And I think goodness, I know goodness wins in the end.
	Uh, Black writes, Candice, how dare you make us wait for more than a week in the dark.
	Now tell us sorry and that you love us.
	I'm glad to see you back.
	I am very sorry, and I love you very much, to be clear, very much.
	Lou Castley writes, you were the most wanted woman these last two days.
	Thank God you were okay.
	We are so happy to have you back on.
	Yes, I'm okay.
	I am alive.
	Uh tomorrow, I think we're dropping a really important interview.
	I had months ago reached out to Milo Genopoulos.
	We had him on quickly because of things that were happening in the moment a few weeks ago.
	He was interesting to me because he his writing was a part of my political awakening about you know conservatism and recognizing that I am at my car core a conservative.
	And then he had, you know, he lived as a gay married man, and now he is very against um homosexuality.
	And he was someone who has spoken about in the past uh having been molested when he was younger and was involved in a big scandal because he really said the wrong thing trying to justify what happened to him when he was a kid and uh you know, apologized for that.
	I wanted to speak to him about everything that's happening in this world.
	And one of the things that he was that we were discussing was how we also got away from things like speaking about the trans stuff is easy, but there was also an intentional, I think, mythology that was established about homosexuality um throughout the 90s that we kind of need to have that discussion again,
	like to speaking about homosexuality, speaking about Emmanuel Macron and Justin Trudeau and Zelensky and why we have a society that almost insists on it, a society that kind of hates heteronormativity as they term it, heteronormativity or something that can also be described as natural order, men and women coming together to procreate, um, why there has been this rampant attack on that.
	They want everyone to be it, either L G B T Q I A plus ad initials, anything but the natural order.
	And it was a really interesting conversation.
	I think a difficult conversation for people to listen to that are, you know, are just not accustomed to to speaking about homosexuality on a deeper level.
	And I think you're really gonna appreciate that conversation tomorrow.
	Uh, so definitely uh stay tuned for that.
	I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.
	Like I said, that is a it's a brave conversation, if anything else, because it's not something that people are like me, you grew up in the 90s, and now we're at a place we said we used to call everything gay, and now you're at a place where like you can't even say the word gay in a way that sounds derogatory, like everything is fake and gay, or else it shows that you're a homophobe.
	That's intentional.
	That has been intentional.
	So we'll get to all of that.
	Anyways, let me see if we have any more people that have commented.
	Uh, nope, I think that is it.
	You guys, thank you so much.
	Monday, tomorrow we'll have Milo.
	Monday will be beginning of becoming Brigitte Season 2.
	Today was really just kind of a preview for that.
	Send me everything about the Stanford experiment.
	Like, do not stop.
	Okay.
	Um, and also to my book club people, I'm so sorry.
	I I was just not in a good place.
	And also I'm I was just so sick.
	Um, so we will have the book club on Tuesday.

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