Candace Owens returns after absence, scrutinizing the 1971 Stanford prison experiment’s legitimacy amid a French-led debunking campaign tied to Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte Macron. She reveals participants—including guards like Chuck Burton (Rothschild descendant) and David Eshelman (Apollo-connected)—were far from random, questioning government involvement and the secrecy around prisoner "2093," possibly linked to missing NASA figure Jean-Michel Trogneau. Owens frames this as part of a broader pattern of state manipulation, from LGBTQ+ advocacy to vaccine mandates, warning listeners to help expose hidden connections before her legal investigation escalates. [Automatically generated summary]
Like you have to prove, you know, because I think that public figures, it's a part of the public interest.
People are allowed to cover them and ask questions.
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And you have to meet what's known as the actual malice standard, which I think I've explained in the past, but essentially that this person knew the truth 100% and acted in reckless regard of it just because they didn't like the individual.
They just had malice against them.
But if Jean-Michel Tragneau had sued me, that standard would have been removed.
Jean-Michel Tragneau could have said, excuse me, this person is saying that I transitioned into my sister and that's not appropriate.
And then they would perhaps have a very legitimate claim if they could prove that I knew the truth.
They are not interested actually in exploring that at all.
I wonder why that is.
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Or maybe Jean-Michel Tragoneau is suing me under a new name, Brigitte Macron.
And look, I also want to say if there's a tiny piece of me that feels bad for Emmanuel Macron, because I was speaking with somebody and they were asking me, you know, why do you think that this sitting president of France actually filed this lawsuit in America?
And then suddenly it dawned on me, OMG, I think that Brigitte and Emmanuel thought that if they filed this lawsuit, that I would just be a normal person and shut up because most people would just be, oh, I'm being sued.
To shut up for a little bit.
But no, that is not, that's not how things work in America.
I have actually started the process of emailing them even more questions this week, more questions, because I want to get to the bottom of this for the entire world.
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And we recently left you guys on a cliffhanger, okay?
So many of you guys actually pointed out, accurately pointed out rather, that when we introduced to you guys the individual that kind of looks like Jean-Michel Trognot, that was a part of the Stanford prison experiment.
It showed up in a documentary, that side image, like who is this person?
And many of you guys emailed us and said, okay, but Candace, look further into those documents.
And prisoner number 2093 that participated in this experiment looks a lot like our missing boy, right?
And the story goes that this Stanford prison experiment got back into the news because a man named Thibault Letexier, he is French, interesting, suddenly became overcome with interest in this prison experiment that happened in 1971.
He had published and authored papers pertaining to business management.
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But suddenly this guy gets a book deal and he publishes a book to debunk this obscure, I would say, if you're friends, this is an obscure experiment that happened in 1971.
And I think now it's important for me to explain to you what the definition is of a limited hangout.
Okay.
This expression, a limited hangout.
Essentially, a limited hangout happens when the government wants to prevent citizens from looking into a specific incident or a specific case.
They want citizens to literally stop asking questions.
So what they do is they try to manufacture a tell-all, right?
Like, oh, I'm actually going to tell you things that you've never known before.
And the idea here is that the public will think that some random independent person has stepped into the public eye and is telling them everything that they're not supposed to know.
I guess me, a person that's a member of the public, I no longer have to look into that matter myself because thankfully we have this guy to do it for us.
That's exactly what happened with the Charles Manson murders.
I never accept someone saying that they're doing an official debunking on something.
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I need to debunk it myself personally.
So anyways, this guy, this French guy, Thibault Latexier, the story goes, despite having no background in psychology and only having ever written about business management in the past, he says that he watched a TED talk in 2013 that Philip Zimbardo, who was the Stanford psychologist that enacted this experiment, he said he watched that TED Talk and he just became obsessed with the experiment.
And he wanted to at first make a short film about it, but for years that didn't really work.
Anyways, here is a clip of him explaining on that recent Hulu documentary how he got involved in this case.
Maybe it's a very popular name, Letexier in France.
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But it appears that Raymond Letexier was the former senator, the former senator in France, a senator in the socialist party who worked alongside Emmanuel Macron because he was at first before he started his own party on Mars.
She was a member and a minister in the Socialist Party, remember?
But again, that could be a coincidence.
Maybe Ramon Letexier helped him in a different way.
By the way, the Hulu documentary is just not good.
And prior to that, the only time that she had directed a documentary was like 10 years ago.
And it was called Lil Bub and Friends.
And it was about cats on social media or whatever.
Okay.
So I learned, like, that's probably, you know, she's probably connected somehow.
I learned her mother is very French.
She's from a very wealthy family in France.
Her mother's surname is Courtial, spelled C-O-U-R-T-I-A-L.
And honestly, it could be another coincidence, but there's a guy named Edward Cortial, who is the current senator of that same department, the Oise department, that the Ramon Latexier woman was a senator in.
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So I'm like, okay.
Edward Cortial, by the way, Skyler, you just want to triple check that picture to make sure that's the right guy.
I hadn't seen the bottom of him.
Okay, he's aged.
Okay.
Looks a lot different from his Wikipedia.
There we go.
Wow.
An incredible.
You can really just catfish anybody, right?
Anyways, it was enough to make me go, okay, why is France suddenly interested in this experiment?
Why is this girl, Juliet Eisner, suddenly interested?
Like I said, her background is in cats of Instagram.
That was the last documentary that she had directed about famous cats.
And it's like naked nepotism, right?
I just clearly like you did this documentary and got this deal with Hulu because of who you know, not because of any talent that you have.
And I get locked in.
I'm reading through Latexier's book and I notice something that I would describe as a very big lie by omission.
Latexier is describing the prisoners in this experiment.
You know, the idea is that this guy, Philip Zimbardo, just put an ad in the newspaper and said that he was looking for college-age students, undergrads, graduate students, whatever, to sign up for this experiment.
And then he locks them a week later into a basement.
And he determines that even after 48 hours, the prisoners are all crazy.
And it shows that we are intrinsically evil, right?
And people will do crazy things just because they're amongst a crowd of other people who are doing crazy things.
Latexier describes the prisoners, how they, the prisoners that were selected for this experiment in a really weird way.
Plus, the documentary also describes them in this way, like they're a bunch of middle-class college kid nobodies who signed up for this experiment that was funded by the Naval Research Center.
Specifically, Latexier writes this, okay?
He says, there's no need to multiply portraits to understand that the participants are not interchangeable.
They have nothing in common, right?
And that the lives that intersect in Zimbardo's prison follow distinct trajectories.
Each one has his sensitivity, his family, his past, his beliefs, his values, his studies, his certainties, his dreams, and his expected future.
But for me personally, I felt like when he said there's no need to multiply portraits of the prisoners, I felt like I needed to multiply the portraits.
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I needed to look into the background of all of these prisoners.
And what I discovered, again, was this lie by omission that was happening from the author.
The prisoners, it turns out, he forgot to mention this, were all specifically linked to engineering.
They were also very specifically linked to the military.
And in most cases, oddly, they were linked to NASA.
And no, these were not just some random students that were floating through the wind and needed some money.
Okay.
It's difficult for me to underscore how dishonest that narrative is.
And I'm going to do it by showing you a part of this Hulu documentary.
Okay.
One of the guards was a man named Chuck Burton.
You're going to see him at the end of this clip.
These are all of the participants or a few of the participants describing their background and why they signed up.
Take a listen to this documentary before I reveal to you who Chuck Burton really is.
Take a listen.
I saw an ad in the newspaper that they were doing a prison experiment and that they were paying $15 a day.
It wasn't that bad for minimum wage type work.
It was $15 a day and three meals in a roof and a padded bed.
And I thought, I've just arrived.
And that sounded good for me.
I didn't have any money.
That sounds good to me.
I didn't have any money, Chuck Burton said.
Elsewhere, he describes how he was just backpacking, you know, just like a hitchhiker.
And sometimes he would do some accounting.
Do we have that clip of him speaking about his accountant, Skylar?
Okay, well, he talks about it because we watched the documentary about how, like, when he would run out of money as he was backpacking, he would then, you know, do a little bit of accounting to make some money and then back to backpacking, you know, just your average guy who needed some cash.
The truth actually is, is Chuck Burton is a descendant of the Rothschilds.
His mother was born in Germany, a descendant of the Rothschilds.
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And the reason why he's traveling all over is just as his mother expresses, that's what they did because they had orchards, an unbelievable amount of wealth, as you would expect and anticipate from the Rothschild descendants.
I mean, like literally, Otto Herdstadt owned Sears partially, like Sears, the company that was like so big.
It is insane that this person is representing himself as somebody who was broke in college.
I want you to take a look at the spreadsheet that I put together.
Again, I was interested in going, okay, once I saw the pattern emerging of engineering and NASA and the military affiliation, and I'm not talking like, oh, my dad served in the military during World War II.
I am talking like the top of the military.
Okay.
People that should have naturally been, if you were trying to make this a real experiment, the first thing that Latexier should have debunked was the idea that the results mattered because, well, if it's funded by the military and you pick a bunch of wealthy military kids, it probably the results might be a bit tainted is what I would say.
There might not be any control in this experiment.
You know, Doug Corpy, his father was Peter Korpa, who was the head of nuclear power and atomic energy at Bechtel, at the Bechtel Corp, the Military Corporation.
His father was also a member of the National Society of Professional Engineers.
Clay Ramsey, it turns out he was a Marine who was working on a merchant ship in particular, which we're trying to prod further because the Ramsey last name is very popular, but I will get to the bottom of it.
Sam Yako was in the U.S. Navy, naval research, and worked for NASA.
His father was a NASA engineer.
Richard produced and directed commercials for NASA.
Glenn Gee, the last name, was way too popular, but we at least knew that he graduated from Stanford University with a degree in chemical engineering a year before this experiment.
I would bet whoever his father is, he had some connection to NASA.
Paul Baron worked for Halliburton.
We're still confirming this, but it's likely that his father is also Paul Baron, who was the electrical engineer that worked for the Rand Corporation.
Stuart Levin worked for Halliburton under the Energy Services and Standard Oil as a geophysicist.
We're trying to confirm because Levin is a very popular last name.
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Who exactly his father was?
We have an idea.
Jim Roney's father is Captain James Roney of the Moffett Naval Air Base.
Oh, could this be a conflict if the Navy is funding this experiment to have Captain James Roney of Moffett Naval Air Base's son participating in the results of this experiment?
His father was also the commander of the ship that recovered the Apollo 8.
Again, this weird NASA thing.
His father was a naval aeronautical engineer who was the director of science and engineering at the Naval Academy.
He was a professor at Stanford during the time of the experiment, and he founded the Stanford Department of Radar Astronomy.
He was also an engineer who oversaw radio experiments between the Stanford Dish and the Pioneer 6 through 9 space probes.
John Mark, we are still looking into, obviously, a popular last name, but he worked for Kaiser Permanente and graduated from Stanford University.
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And his father was a professor at Stanford University.
We also know that John Mark spent a year in France leading up to this experiment.
So that's interesting.
Carl von Orsdahl, his father is William von Orsdahl, who served in World War II as a Coast Guard in Okinawa and then worked for Lockheed.
Like now it's Lockheed Martin, like Lockheed for the rest of his career.
And his father, of course, worked in the aerospace industry for Hughes aircraft because, like I said, there was this strange NASA theme that's happening.
And there are reasons for these performances done at this magnitude.
But when I think of drama and I think of military and I think of engineering and I think of NASA, I know that I cannot rest until I figure out who this prisoner is.
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Still obsessed with this Stanford experiment.
Another interesting lead that came from a Stanford student.
They said, hey, I don't know if you know this, but as a former Stanford student, I knew that we could access news archives to see what was published in like the Stanford newspaper at that time in the 70s.
And again, this could be nothing, but I'm going to chase down and debunk everything.
What they found in the archives was that there was a graduate student named Jean-Michel that was a member of the French club and also Bechtel, like the military institute.
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And I'm going to read you what they found in the Stanford archive.
You can see they're talking about Bastille Day festivities and they mention Jean-Michel, a graduate, a graduate school of business student from France, exhilarated the audience with popular folk tunes from George Brasson, one of the most celebrated French folk singers.
Okay, so we have a Jean-Michel who is a graduate school student that is performing on the quad.
And he also gets another mention in another Stanford Archive clip.
I don't know if you have that.
I mean, Stanford Archive newspaper.
It says French Students Association, Bechtel International Center.
Again, that is like the military corporate Bechtel.
And Tim Dylan, the comedian, American comedian who has been unnecessarily featured in this lawsuit, realizes the importance of figuring this thing out.
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The president of France's wife is suing Candace Owens, who said she was a man.
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I always want to be extremely honest with you guys about everything that is happening in my life, as much as I can tell you everything that's happening and my life.
And there is kind of the broader point that, you know, you take your kids to school, back to school, you drop your kids off, and tons of moms are posting themselves and just how upset they are with doing it, that something feels wrong.
There is, that is very real the first time that you drop your kids off at school.
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And the Catholic school shooting that happened last week, again, we had another trans shooter.
It really impacted me.
It felt very close to home as a, obviously, as a Catholic.
Also in Tennessee, we had the trans shooting that happened in Nashville, which was just a few blocks away from me.
And so it just is starting to feel like it's getting close to home.
And day in and day out, I am covering what's happening in the dark parts of the world.
We're talking about Epstein.
We're talking about Emmanuel Macron, what happened to him.
We're talking about the evil perverts in this world.
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And that kind of, I would say, earth-shattering moment where our government looked at us and tried to gaslight us about someone like Epstein, someone who admitted to the fact that he was sexually abusing minors.
I mean, think about how crazy that is that our government's just like, doesn't matter, keep it moving.
It signals that the perverts are in control.
And when you're reading this stuff day in and day out, like I do, and you understand how vicious, how violent, how intentional, how dishonest our government is, and you're not sure if everyone else has gotten there, it can be really overwhelming.
Like we all went through the same public school system.
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We are all learning together just how evil the system is and just how, again, intentional that system has been made for us, this matrix that they have created.
But I do think it's time for us to be equally as radical in saying, you know what?
Everything the government has done has actually been unacceptable.
Why are you telling me that if I don't put my kids into school, I can go to prison, but also that, like, you know, there's no answer for why kids are getting dumber and dumber and dumber since the establishment of the Department of Education, the federal education system.
You read books like I read Thomas Soule Inside the American Education System, and you will never unsee it.
That it was really modeled by the Soviets, you know, that we are going to essentially program your children and we want your children to be overtly sexualized and we want your children to also hate you.
And so I had all of that kind of swimming inside of my mind.
And I just kind of need to take a pause and feel that I was committing myself further in every aspect of my life to providing an example to people that we shouldn't accept the way things are.
Like we should absolutely not accept the way that things are.
And I also just wanted to make sure like my kids were okay, you know, just really needing to think about, are my children okay?
Am I doing everything that I can to make sure that they are secure?
I think they are considering wiping away all vaccine mandates for kids.
And yeah, that's a win, but I want you to know that that is a win because parents are saying no to vaccines.
Like parents are saying, why do you not also get to access my child's mind, but arbitrarily access my children's bodies because you're the government and we somehow signed up for that and that was made okay and that doesn't make any sense.
And what the government actually fears is what's happening right now, which is so many parents that are homeschooling and saying, yeah, no, we're not doing that.
And we don't want to end up like Germany where you're not allowed to homeschool.
I got an email from someone saying that in Germany, you are literally not allowed to homeschool, which means that that prison is permanent in Germany.
Like they can just arrest you if you try to homeschool your children.
So we have this short runway to make sure we don't end up that way, right?
I think they really were spiking the ball in the 60s and the 70s.
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And part of that is just through true education, true education, and showing up and telling our kids what's real and what's not real, being hawks, not allowing them to gaslight us to think that we don't have the right to ask questions about our children or what they're learning or what safety measures are being employed when they hire people.
How does a Jeffrey Epstein get into a private school with no background in teaching and being an overt pervert?
Like that's very scary to think about.
And so, yeah, I just wanted to kind of take a pause and come back feeling a bit refreshed and optimistic because we should be optimistic.
We are seeing the results, sort of the fruits of our intellectual labor everywhere.
And so major win for parents, by the way, on the amount of parents that have taken their kids out of schools and are homeschooling them and realizing that that has always been what has made sense.
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I wanted you guys to see that because I think that will really help you understand how much your government hates you.
They're just poisoning us.
They're poisoning your kids.
They've been poisoning us for a long time.
And when I learned the history of birth control, I was quite stunned.
And this is somebody I was pro-choice.
I was very pro-birth control, thinking people should, you know, people should take it.
I kind of always felt weird that they were trying to sell it to me, but I definitely did not think there was anything wrong with other women taking it.
And then I learned the history of birth control.
And I went, oh, okay, that's just more of our government hating us and wanting to make sure that we don't procreate and that they will eventually control that, that you will have to come to them and they'll control IVF clinics and things of that nature.
We have to get educated ourselves again if we are going to reverse engineer things, so to speak.
So that A Shot in the Dark episode 23 is available for free on candaceowens.com.
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Maybe next week we'll also publish it onto YouTube because the facts are shocking.
All right, let's see what you guys are thinking.
Probably a lot that you're thinking.
Don't forget anything.
Find the Jean-Michel that was in the 70s in Stanford.
We cannot find him on Graduation Docs.
Anything that you may know, maybe you saw this Jean-Michel performing on the quad.
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You know, you plug into your family and you realize what actually matters and what matters at the end of the day is we need to be radical when it comes to defending our families, especially the children, like especially the children.
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The support around the world is why we keep doing this thing.
And you guys, like when I was really feeling like, wow, I feel really upset about the fact that they've just been getting away with this for so long.
I'm always so picked up.
Like when I saw you guys posting, like, is Candice okay?
We're going to send the police.
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I can't tell you guys how much that just completely brightens me.
And sometimes we all just need that.
Like, you need to remember, like, there are such good people in the world.
Like, they are the minority.
They know they are the minority, the evil people.
The good people are the majority.
That experiment obviously was a complete act to justify those sadistic perverts doing whatever they want to do around the world, the Stanford prison experiment.
But the majority of people are actually intrinsically good.
We're not intrinsically evil.
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I had months ago reached out to Milo Yiannopoulos.
We had him on quickly because of things that were happening in the moment a few weeks ago.
He was interesting to me because his writing was a part of my political awakening about conservatism and recognizing that I am at my core a conservative.
And then he had, you know, he lived as a gay married man, and now he is very against homosexuality.
And he was someone who has spoken about in the past having been molested when he was younger and was involved in a big scandal because he really said the wrong thing, trying to justify what happened to him when he was a kid and apologized for that.
I wanted to speak to him about everything that's happening in this world.
And one of the things that he was that we were discussing was how we also got away from things like speaking about the trans stuff is easy, but there was also an intentional, I think, mythology that was established about homosexuality throughout the 90s that we kind of need to have that discussion again,
like speaking about homosexuality, speaking about Emmanuel Macrone and Justin Trudeau and Zelensky, and why we have a society that almost insists on it, a society that kind of hates heteronormativity, as they term it, heteronormativity, or something that can also be described as natural order, men and women coming together to procreate, why there has been this rampant attack on that.
They want everyone to be in either LGBTQIA plus ad initials, anything but the natural order.
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I think a difficult conversation for people to listen to that are, you know, are just not accustomed to speaking about homosexuality on a deeper level.
And I think you're really going to appreciate that conversation tomorrow.
So definitely stay tuned for that.
I can't wait to hear your thoughts on it.
Like I said, that is a brave conversation, if anything else, because it's not something that people are like me.
You grew up in the 90s, and now we're at a place we said we used to call everything gay, and now you're at a place where you can't even say the word gay in a way that sounds derogatory, like everything is fake and gay, or else it shows that you're a homophobe.