Candace Owens examines Brigitte Macron’s alleged identity swap with Jean-Michel Trogneau, a former German military sergeant tied to Clipperton Island—a French naval base with dark history—since 1986. She links his traits to the Stanford Prison Experiment’s prisoner 2093, whose records show missing uniforms, no signed media release, and ties to MK Ultra’s electromagnetism experiments under Dr. Jolly West. France’s 1971 gold repatriation from the U.S., Rothschild connections via guard Chuck Burton, and Macron’s sudden rise in 2015 fuel suspicions of military-intelligence mind control, with Owens urging crowdsourced tips to expose a "sinister" narrative. [Automatically generated summary]
I'm going to let you guys reboot, see what happened there.
So anyways, I just want to show you that clip again in case you didn't see.
I don't know when exactly we got blacked out of this, but I'm showing you the clip of her sitting.
Let's watch that again.
You get that in too.
So as I was saying, there's something about the manner that Brigitte is sitting that you look at that as a woman and you go, that's just not the way that women sit, right?
We do not widespread in that manner.
We tend to understand that when you look at that image, you're looking at somebody that is a dude.
But I'm more concerned in that moment of the way that she's sort of wide walking, right?
When you see her coming out of the store, I would say that that gate in particular is quite military because it's difficult if you have been in the military for a long time to sort of shake that training.
Now, to remind you guys, Jean-Michel Tragneau, Brigitte's quote-unquote brother, has a military file that the government is refusing to release for whatever reason.
It is a pretty long military tenure, and this is when Jean-Michel Trogneau sort of just disappears.
You should also know that what has been confirmed is that he held the rank of sergeant in Germany.
So in 1963, at the age of 18, Jean-Michel should have been awarded his diploma.
Instead, Xavier Poussard discovers that for whatever reason, despite being in that 1963 class photo, Jean-Michel Trogneau hadn't actually graduated.
And there were all sorts of oddities as he was trying to get these files.
I'm going to read you this from his book.
He wrote, quote, the 20-page document shows, and that he's referring to his school files, that Jean-Michel Tragneau, then aged 18, the age at which typically the diploma is awarded in France, had not attended school for the previous years, the previous three years, and he had no diploma, not even the BEPC, which is normally awarded at the end of the third year.
Okay, so that's weird.
Where was Jean-Michel Tragneau when he was 15, 16, 17?
He also says that he had so many absences while he was at this school.
Then we fast forward to 1967, and at the age of 23, we know that Jean-Michel Tragneau is in Germany at that spire club again.
He wants you to know that Jean-Michel Tragneau becomes Brigitte.
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He wrote this, and I quote, therefore, we can conclude that Jean-Michel Tragneau has been living under the civil birth identity of his sister, Brigitte Tragneau, since at least 1986.
Emmanuel Macron flew to the United States to speak to Trump shortly thereafter.
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So we have to ask ourselves, what is it in particular about my voice and my reach within America that has the Élysée Palace so concerned?
While tracing the life of Jean-Michel Tragoneau, Xavier Poussard unwittingly, I think, stumbled upon what is likely to lead us to the truth.
Here is what he wrote in Becoming Brigitte.
He wrote, quote, or asked rather, quote, what did Jean-Michel Trageneau do between June of 1968 and 1973?
Although little is known about this period of his life, Brigitte has always claimed to have watched the 1969 American moon landing on TV from the United States.
Yeah, the answer is obvious if you're paying attention.
It's that Jean-Michel Tragneau must have been here in America from 1968 to 1973.
They are panicked because there is something here in the United States that we should have access to.
The Macrones very much needed the investigation into Brigitte's life and background to be contained to France, right?
Because Jean-Michel Tragenau wasn't in France during those years.
Therefore, it is unlikely that a French journalist could have solved the mystery alone.
Unfortunately for the Macrones, fate would have it that that French journalist Xavier Houssard teamed up with a very persistent Candace Owens.
More panicking, more mistakes from the Elysee Palace.
The lawsuit filing in and of itself was a bad idea, but beyond that, it was sloppy.
MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra, MKUltra said 18 times, dogs do not bark unless they perceive a threat.
So I will quickly remind you that we caught a Jean-Marie Trogneau, I'm thinking this could maybe be Brigitte's father, on a ship in 1961, coming from France, stopping in Canada, and then arriving in Oakland, California.
And it's just our luck that that particular ship got caught up in a lawsuit from that same year, which allowed us to know what sort of cargo it was carrying.
Oddly, I had mentioned to you guys that it was an 8,000-pound magnet.
And I asked offhandedly, what do you do with an 8,000-pound magnet?
Also, the person captaining that was the captain of that ship was a man named Guy Choplin.
Okay.
He was manning the ship, and yet we could not locate photos of this individual beyond two pictures and one, which is like his official filings as a captain, looks like he's a child.
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Here it is.
That's Guy Choplin there in the corner.
All we are able to determine about Guy Choplin is that he was born in 1910 and he died in 1994.
Oh, okay.
And then I kind of a little bit think he's got the Trogneau face, like the ears, but that would just be speculation.
By the way, there was no era when psychology was not deranged, but this was extra special.
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They needed to see if they could hack and control our minds.
And electromagnets were a massive piece of the MKUltra experimentation agenda.
That project, in particular, the sub-project 119, was led by two doctors at UCLA who realized that the brain, that brains irradiate low frequencies with respective activities.
So they're saying, oh, the brain's got these frequencies going on.
And they're wondering if they could then manipulate those brain waves electromagnetically.
Stanford University similarly picked up research regarding electromagnets in the early 70s.
That is, if you look throughout the Stanford yearbooks at that time, they speak a lot about it.
And like I said, I know this because I accessed those yearbook archives.
I had to send somebody there to access those files.
And of course, I also had to contact one of the prisoners that was involved myself.
But first, I want to tell you a little bit of background about the experiment, okay?
So the reality is that the more dramatic stories pertaining to the Holocaust did not actually begin to manifest until decades after the event.
In fact, even the stories about Dr. Mengele, an Israeli historian, Ephraim Zorov, discovered that his image among former Auschwitz inmates who were interviewed right after the war was harmless.
The angel of death who committed unspeakable tragedies evolved slowly over time.
And in this evolution, regular people began to wonder, are we really to believe that everybody just jumped in and took place and took part in this evil?
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Are people just intrinsically evil?
That if you see somebody doing these terrible things, you're going to jump in like all of these Nazis did this because you got to justify the Nuremberg trials.
You're killing everybody, right?
And people are going to ask that question.
Is it possible that a person who has never harmed an individual in their entire life can radically transform into a monster?
Is there a quiet monster that lives inside of all of us?
Well, Philip Zimbardo at Stanford University set out to prove that, yeah, in the right environment, very quickly, people are going to do unspeakably evil things if everybody else is doing it.
If management tells them, hey, carve out this person's eye, they're going to do it, okay?
The Stanford Prison Experiment was funded by the U.S. Office of Naval Research, and I'm going to let you hear Philip Zimbardo in his own words here explain how it all came together.
Our goal back in 1971 was to study the behavioral and psychological consequences of becoming a prisoner or prison guard.
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To do this, we decided to simulate a prison environment, both physically and mentally, and then observe the effects of this institution on all those within its walls.
We used the basement of the psychology building to stage our little drama, scheduled to run for two weeks.
A corridor of small offices was converted into a functional prison environment.
It was complete with three cells.
There was a guard's room, the warden's office, my superintendent's office, and a closet used if necessary for solitary confinement.
We recruited the help of some prison experts to assist us with our prison design and construction.
They were given diagnostic interviews and psychological tests to weed out all those with any signs of psychological abnormality, medical disabilities, or history of crime or drug use.
24 were selected.
They were all healthy, normal, intelligent, middle-class males from colleges throughout the United States.
And with a flip of the coin, each was randomly assigned to play the role of prisoner or guard.
It was only by chance that someone was chosen as prisoner or guard.
He worked for Halliburton after graduating with a master's and a PhD from Stanford University.
His father, we wrote, might be Paul Baron, the electrical engineer who worked for the Rand Corporation.
Next, Stuart Levin worked for Halliburton Energy Services and Standard Oil as a geophysicist, graduated with a degree from Stanford, a master of science from Stanford.
We've got Jim Roney, 4325.
His father is Captain James Roney of the Moffett Naval Air Base, also commander of the ship that recovered the Apollo 8.
His father was also an aeronautical engineer who was the director of science and engineering at the Naval Academy.
Okay.
We've got Jerry Shu, who is prisoner 5486.
We find out from Jerry Shu that he spent time in Canada before the experiment.
Okay, he's originally from Pennsylvania and he's a college dropout.
Lastly, though, of course, is the prisoner that we're concerned with here is Thomas Williams.
We are told from Latexier in his book that he was an undergrad who was living in his car before the experiment, and that's all we know.
So I was interested, okay?
I was interested.
We were also informed that one of these prisoners was actually a mole, meaning that the prisoner was working under Philip Zimbardo and really just acting.
This prisoner was just an actor.
I felt in my gut that that prisoner could potentially be the Jean-Michel Tragonel lookalike, prisoner 2093.
But we really only had one clue to go off of about that mole, which was given to us via one of the prisoners named Jonathan Mark.
I mean, one of the guards parted named Jonathan Mark, who did a Reddit feed in 2015.
So that's 10 years ago.
He jumps onto Reddit and says, I was a prisoner in the Stanford, I mean, a guard in the Stanford experiment.
Ask me anything.
And this is what he wrote in that Reddit post.
He lets us know that the prisoner who was removed from the experiment for a breakdown, that's Doug Corpy, was the younger brother of one of my friends, but I never had any subsequent contact with him.
When he was removed, he was replaced by a new prisoner who was, in fact, a grad student working with Zimbardo, who was placed as a mole to find out what the student prisoners were up to.
This new prisoner/slash grad student was also an acquaintance of mine.
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So while I didn't out him, and I'm sure none of us were supposed to know that he was a part of the research team, nor was his background ever published to my knowledge, I knew who he was.
Just in general, first and foremost, we're going to get to the timing that he posts this in 2015.
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He says very clearly there that the mole was an acquaintance of his and also a graduate student.
Macron gets elected in 2017.
Thibault Letexier, a business management major with a background in business management, randomly publishes a book the following March about the experiment.
And then some French girl, Juliet Eisner, then does a documentary about the experiment.
He, I mean, I had no idea that that man was not American.
It shocked me to my core.
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But most people, when you learn a language, especially when you learn a language like, you know, English, you might struggle a bit with the R's, maybe holding them on a little bit too long.
So I'm going to show you a clip of The Sarge, Prisoner 2093.
And I want you to pay attention to the speech pattern.
If we to wound you today, would you be willing to give up if they pay the two barriers so far?
I feel the only answer to that question would have to be an answer.
What?
My reasoning behind it would be that if it were I have to give up the pay thus far, it would be an even greater loss of five days of my life than it would have been otherwise.
I feel that, in other words, the pay compensates for the time it doesn't, sir.
I began to realize more and more during the five days that having the time to spend and study to advance my studies at Stanford University could not be compensated by $15 a day.
Okay.
I said, I feel like someone's trying to put on an American accent.
And it's about to get weirder as we, like I said, of course, I had to send somebody to Stanford University to access the documents.
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Was this prisoner the graduate student that was working under Zimbardo?
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So I decided we just have to learn everything that there is to learn about Sarge, you know, Prisoner 2093, the Sarge.
Surprisingly, Philip Zimbardo didn't actually publish a book about the Stanford experiment until 2007.
He releases in 2007 the book entitled The Lucifer Effect of all Things.
And I was wondering why that was.
Again, as a part of the investigation, you do have to speculate.
You have to think, right?
You have the permission to think.
And I'm going, was anything going on in 2007 that made this relevant?
No.
Okay, I download the book.
If my theory holds that this could be Brigitte, then I'm wondering: is it possible that something happened to Brigitte and/or Emmanuel in 2007 that would have required this kind of going back, rewriting history, if you will?
And as it turns out, that just happens to be the year that Brigitte and Emmanuel Macron get married.
They got married in 2007.
Now, again, I'm just thinking out loud here.
In Zimbardo's book, he speaks about the Sarge quite a bit.
The description of him is that he obeyed all orders in a way that was almost twisted, that made people uncomfortable.
More on that later.
Now, some things, again, that could have easily debunked my theory is just the physical description that we can find that's available regarding prisoner 2093.
All of the prisoners had a third-party witness, meaning someone other than Philip Zimbardo, who signed off on their media releases, with the exceptions of Glenn Gee and The Sarge, known as Tom Williams, both in the Lucifer effect.
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His name is Thomas Thompson, and then he's Thomas Williams in Latexier's book.
And the signature reads Thomas C. Williams, but the only person that witnessed that signing is dead and would have been a conflict of interest for a witness signature.
They're being very cagey about what they have and what they don't have.
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But suffice it to say, the majority is all supposed to be at Stanford and it's not there.
Maybe because that would have held DNA of some description if you're sweating in the prison, right?
Also in the archives at Stanford is a list of all of the addresses that correspond to the prisoners, because remember, they had to pick up the prisoners for their fake arrest.
This is the only footage that's been made available from visiting day regarding prisoner 2093.
Take a look.
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Now, there's no audio on this, but I don't think that that individual looks like they could be a dad.
This person actually looks like he's maybe the same age, exact same age as our 2093.
Okay.
There's also a digital archive, a typed up sheet, obviously must have been typed up decades after, where they record that 2093 was visited by someone named Warren Faras.
We got on the phone with him at about 10 p.m. at night.
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And the conversation, I mean, Jonathan Mark was detailed.
He was descriptive.
He spoke about all of the flaws in Zimbardo's experiment.
He told me that he thought Latexier did a really good book.
And I told him, like, no, I feel like Latexier kind of left out the part where it was one big giant conflict of interest because so many of these people had ties to the military and the military funded the experiment.
Then I asked him about that mole.
I asked him about that Reddit AMA that he had done just 10 years ago and got a little bit iffy.
He told us that the mole was, he thought, married to a girl that a friend of his in high school used to date.
But then he let us know he doesn't really remember much about the mole.
That's nearly 45 years after the initial experiment.
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This guy jumps and he does an AMA on Reddit to talk about this experiment.
Asked the question again, thinking out loud, was there anything going on in Emmanuel Macron and Brigitte's life that might have been significant?
And I kid you not, in March of 2015, the exact week that he did this AMA Reddit feed, is exactly when Emmanuel Macron is first introduced to the French public.
You can see this on his Wikipedia page.
I can't make this up.
It says, Macron first became known to the French public after his appearance on the French TV program Des Parole et des Axes in March of 2015.
Okay, that's pretty particular.
I thought that's a little bit weird.
Let's just keep going.
We got to try again.
And I tell Skylar, reach out to him this time with a very clear picture of David Gorchoff.
I've now hunted that down.
This person he described 10 years ago as an acquaintance.
He was supposedly, this guy is supposedly the mole.
Ask him point blank whether or not this man, this photo of this man, was the mole that he remembers in the experiment.
At this point, I wanted to look more closely at the language of Prisoner 2093, because even if you do master a language, it's difficult to master its delivery.
I suppose you could say I was playing my best role because I believe that life is really, it depends upon what role you play as to how you act.
In almost any situation that I've been in, I can describe it in terms of the role that I am playing.
And being in prison, having to follow all these rules, it was one of the first opportunities I've had to play the basic role, or at least as far as I can understand, the basic role on which the other roles are built.
And I can't describe self in terms of anything but role.
I believe that the most important thing is results and not what the attempts are.
Person comes back to them and says, I'm not quite sure what you mean by that.
2093 continues.
I mean, I would change to most any role, not most any role that can be built upon the basic role in order to accomplish what the basic role would want to accomplish, but could not accomplish by itself.
I'm not kidding when I say that I even prayed on it because I felt spiritually something very evil was going on.
And all of this, I want to be clear, is God's timing, right?
Because naturally, right now, what's coinciding with this is that we are learning and reading about Sigmund Freud.
In my book club, we are reading the assault on truth.
We are reading about Sigmund Freud, the rapid abuse of children that was happening in Paris, how he gaslit these children.
He was working under Charcot in Paris, when he then flips the script and says, no, no, the children are attracted to their parents.
It was incestuous abuse.
And in the next book that we're going to read, we're going to learn in my book club about Sigmund Freud again, but we're going to learn about the fact that he was a cabbalist.
He owned a Zohar.
If there is anything to know about cabbalists, it's that the numbers matter deeply to them.
And lo and behold, the prisoner numbers just so happen to correspond to 1971 military bases.
And I'm going to go through those for you guys right now.
Doug Corby's was 8612.
That is the number that was assigned for the Naval Weapons Station in Long Beach, California.
And it is incredible that that one took me a while to hack because apparently when it's a medical center, a medical facility, they give them what's known as DMIS numbers.
But again, Long Beach, California.
We then have Clay Ramsey, 416, correlates to the engineering team in Vietnam, the Naval CB team, 416.
My husband then says he's never heard of Clipperton Island.
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And that's crazy because my husband is the king of geography.
Xavier Poussard says he's never heard of Clipperton Island.
So let me show you this island that apparently not many people have heard of that has a had a military naval base and presence that is a French island.
You were involved in the recent documentary that was involved, that was about this on Hulu.
You're telling me now all of a sudden, this prisoner who Zimbardo has featured prominently in his book, you don't remember, you know, nothing about this guy.
You told us that you read Latexier's book, that you read Zimbardo's book.
It's prisoner 2093 that's being protected, to say the least.
Okay.
The last piece of this that I had to solve for, though, was Zimbardo's lie.
But the biggest piece of the lie that he tells, where he says these were all middle class, was when we realized, as I told you guys in last Thursday's episode, that one of the guards, Chuck Burton, was a Rothschild descendant.
Rothschild, middle-class kids, no, Chucky Burton.
Granddad's running Sears.
You're the Hertzstadt family, like Hertzstatt, like the bank.
What are we doing here?
Feels kind of weird that you're pretending to be a poor kid that was backpacking and needed 15 bucks.
And then now, if I'm correct and this is Jean-Michel Trogneau, then that would mean that at least two Rothschild agents, you could say, maybe, were there, connections connected to the Rothschilds, maybe a more appropriate way to say that?
What is it about the Rothschilds that would have put these individuals here?
Historically speaking, and I'm going on gut here, I'm thinking to myself, the Rothschilds are really only known to care about one thing.
I mean, this is a family that's been around for generations, but when we're talking about gold, the Rothschilds come up, you know, just historically speaking.
I know today that's considered anti-Semitism, but it's just a fact.
You know, they're known to care about banking.
It's a banking dynasty, right?
And then I think to myself, okay, but obviously nothing was going on in 1971 pertaining to gold.
So, first and foremost, you should know that from 1959 to 69, the president of France was Charles de Gaulle.
Okay.
He was Charles de Gaulle.
And what happened was Charles de Gaulle got a little bit MAGA in the end because the conversation of globalizing the Federal Reserve System was coming up.
America had already domestically converted to the fiat system.
Okay.
So it used to be that your dollar was backed by gold.
But it would make sense that maybe this could be a reason that if you're the Rothschilds and you're concerned with banking, you would want to make sure that family members and people that were very close to you were involved in this.
If you guys know anything about what goes on on Clipperton Island, you must email tips at candaceoens.com because I'm on to this.
If you guys know anything about prisoner 2093, the very mysterious Tom Williams, you must email tips at candaceoens.com to let you guys know we have already gone through the files that are public and available on the Stanford website.
We are, we know, I know that we are close here and the implications as I begin to look at what was going on and this CB team and what these engineers were sent out to do in Vietnam and what other teams that were involved in Korea, the implications here are quite severe.
We're talking about the Federal Reserve.
You want to get unalived real quick as a president in America.
We've been able to put together a lot of this because of you guys.
Last thing, and I want you guys to let me know again, we are having a lot of trouble identifying this Wit Hubble, what those numbers could have corresponded to.
If you know anything, feel free to email tips at candaceowens.com.
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Yeah, I'm thinking that we do exist under the military.
That's why I even noticed on some of my episodes, there are like military bots, literally, people whose jobs it is in the military to dissuade Americans from watching certain content.
We saw a lot of that when Israel wanted to go after Iran.
You saw suddenly this increase in bots.
It was so botted.
Marbley writes, is the CIA shirt a case of the truth hidden in plain sight?
We need to ask these questions.
It's maybe you can't see it, but it's our, you know how we say that we are the new CIA, the Kansas Intelligence Agency.
A lot of stuff, a lot of funny business going on there and a lot of funny business that happened there.
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Jonathan Werner writes, Hey, Candace, keep spreading the truth.
Have you seen the new trailer for the biblical horror movie, The Carpenter's Son?
I would love your thoughts on it.
I have not seen a trailer.
I don't watch movies anymore.
I just kind of read books.
I'm just fascinated with learning real history because I think that truth is kind of, I mean, what actually has happened, the events of our world is obviously, as the expression goes, way stranger in fiction than fiction.
Sparky writes, don't make too much about the 800-pound electromagnet, 8,000-pound electromagnet until more is known about it.
They're commonly used in cranes in scrap metal yards.
That's probably what it's for.
Don't give Brigitte and Co. ammo.
Oh, no, there's more.
There's more about that particular ship and what it was involved in.
But thank you for your commentary.
I can only give you guys so much in one episode, but that's not the only lawsuit that it was involved in.
And of course, where it was going in California and what time it was going there.
Brian Schwartz writes, the basic role may be a brainwashing model for the rest of the prisoners.
The interviews that you watch with that prisoner, what's made available, they're weird.
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They're just very, very weird.
And it feels like theater.
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You get no sick days.
Okay, fine, fair.
I got it.
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Hagger says in his book that in the 1770s, Freemasonry was used to foment revolution, not to practice the occult, and that some factions of Freemasonry were upset with other factions because many were not practicing the occult.
Macron's close friends are pedophiles.
George Washington's close friends were devout Catholics and Protestants.
Like that's something we, everything you think you know about American history is wrong, except for the fact that, yeah, it was a Freemason race, and the wrong Freemasons won, is what I'll say.
Alaska Dog Lady writes, Cradle Catholic who left the faith for ages, returned as a Protestant, but I've gone back to mass, and the Holy Spirit led me to enroll my kids in OCIC today.
Celebrate with me.
That is absolutely amazing.
And let me tell you guys, that is the one resource that they are most interested in.
It is our children.
It is incumbent upon us to guard our children, mind, body, and soul.
Not kidding, that is, there is, it's so obvious.
We now live in what I would describe a post-Epstein world, okay, where they're just masked down right now.
They are masked down in this moment.
They are trying to lay on the Freudian strategy of gaslighting us as they abuse us.
Thick, the media is trying to make us think we're crazy.
Why are you paying attention?
Like, nope.
You guys have all gone masked down.
Of course, by the way, I was telling you guys that there's this show that was very popular in America.
It is very popular, White Lotus.
And in this last season of White Lotus, there was unnecessarily incest, and people just turned it off and didn't want to watch it.
And then it turns out that there was this K-pop, very popular K-pop singer that was in that season.
She did not take part in the incest scene, but she had never before acted.
And she was put into this particular season, the incest season, so to speak.
Well, it turns out they believe she got this role because she is dating Bernard Arnaud, who we know is in the orbit of the Macrones.
And Brigitte Macrone herself gave that K-pop singer an award.
And beyond that, they have just announced that the new season of White Lotus is going to be filmed in Paris the next season.
So it's just, I know, there's just so much happening right now.
We just go, I don't know, France, but perhaps the government collapsing is what needed to happen because I don't know what is in the LACA Palace.
But it ain't, it is not a woman named Brigitte Macron.
It is not a woman by any stretch of the imagination.
And this person is quite evil, quite sinister.
The things this person, I believe, has always been involved in.
So we're going to keep prodding the narrative on the Stanford Prison Experiment.
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