Candace Owens examines a 1961 French cargo ship, the MS Michigan, where Jean-Marie Trogneau—a rare surname linked to Brigitte Macron—disembarked in Seattle after a stop in British Columbia. The ship’s owner, tied to a 1955 Medal of Freedom recipient, later operated routes near Stanford during the 1971 Prison Experiment, raising questions about MK Ultra connections and psychological manipulation. Owens speculates on possible incestuous ties in Macron’s family and broader cultural normalization, citing Jacob Frank’s 18th-century sect and HBO’s White Lotus. Despite legal pushback, she insists truth will surface, blending historical anomalies with provocative claims about power, secrecy, and media influence. [Automatically generated summary]
This, of course, is the last episode before we go on a one-week break because we need to research so much.
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And I'm going to tell you guys, this is going to be an explosive episode.
One of our viewers, and truly, I cannot believe I missed this, they found a certain John Trogneau entering the United States in 1961.
Plus, on top of that, some of you guys have been messaging me about the show White Lotus and how there is this random incest theme that's suddenly running through it in the recent season.
And somehow, that term white lotus has come up in my research.
I'm telling you guys, this is all getting really crazy.
So welcome back to Candace.
To be honest, crazy doesn't really cut it.
It's cosmically insane, everything that's going on in the world.
So, I'm going to first explain this expression that we use in America because I know we have so many international viewers.
So, what that means is sometimes when you're not meaning to offend anybody, you might say something and people get offended, like they get triggered almost.
It elicits a response that you're not expecting.
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And you go, Oh, well, the reason why you reacted to that, you're a hit dog hollering.
You reacted to that because there's something that you know.
It's not because of what I said, it's because of who you are, okay?
I was reacting to something that a congressman had said, saying that there was no such thing as an innocent Palestinian life.
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And then all of a sudden, a person who used to be a friend of mine, Dave Rubin, jumps in and gets really defensive about whether or not Palestinians are being genocided.
I'm like, wow, that's a random hit dog that's hollering.
And now we fast forward, that was 2023.
Now we fast forward to 2025.
And yeah, well, the headlines are looking a little different.
And it looks like maybe they knew where this was headed, right?
This is The Guardian telling us, literally, I think this was published yesterday, revealed Israeli military's own data indicates civilian death rate of 83% in the Gazan war.
So yeah, they were on the inside of that and freaking out as soon as anybody used the term, overreacting anytime anybody used the term genocide.
Similarly, another example of that is I did an episode back in 2022 and I was discussing the history of psychology.
Like I said, my takeaway, the world is a literal stage and that there are in fact military grade actors who use the press as their supporting cast to convince us, the unwitting audience, that certain events have taken place in the world when they maybe actually did not take place or maybe did not take place in the way that we thought they did.
The book made me realize the power of psychology, the power of propaganda.
We don't know why he's panicked, but he randomly includes in this lawsuit amongst the allegations and charges against me that have completely thrown him over the edge of things I have done that have thrown the president couple, presidential couple over the edge.
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He mentions the fact that I bring up MK Ultra throughout the series.
Actually, it wasn't throughout the series.
In fact, he mentions this MKUltra program 18 times in this lawsuit.
Okay.
The lawsuit filed against me, MKUltra is discussed 18 times.
I'm sorry, but is that not weird?
Like, what about MKUltra got him so triggered that they're furiously writing about this?
And I'm going to show you here in the lawsuit at the bottom of page 59, paragraphs 132 to 133.
You can read this lawsuit and you could type in MKUltra yourself and see that everything that we're telling you is true.
But they wrote to encourage, actually at the top 132, toward the end of episode two, Owens turned her gaze towards President Macron to begin ceding her eventual claim that he is the product of MKUltra or a similar government control program.
MKUltra was a secret CIA program that conducted human experiments to develop mind control techniques using drugs, psychological manipulation, and torture.
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That's true.
They then write, to encourage suspicion, Owens characterized President Macron's childhood as a black hole with very little information available.
She suggested that his upbringing may be linked to Clendiston, a government plot because his father, to a clandestine government plot, because his father was a psychiatrist and his mother was a pediatrician.
Owens referenced the book Chaos about the CIA's MKUltra program and told viewers that its contents were relevant as we go along with this series, learning about some government programs, which involved a lot of psychiatrists.
I made it clear that we have no idea whether or not the program went global.
We know that the majority of the files were erased, effectively destroyed by the government because they didn't want people knowing what they were looking into.
Now, I'm looking at this, and I'll tell you what I see in my eyes.
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You can pull that back up, Skylar.
On the right, you see it looks like someone like a student, right?
And that they're writing.
And yeah, the hairline can look similar.
But honestly, we didn't know.
We didn't know.
But given the extraordinary and unprecedented lawsuit that is being filed by this couple against me, we are going to chase down any and every available lead, right?
We want to now get to the actual truth.
We're now not done with this series.
This series has to become my life because he's threatening my entire life, right?
And again, Brigitte, as we know, rather mysteriously stated in a 2018 interview that she spent a lot of time throughout her childhood in the United States, that she had fond memories of the United States, that she celebrated the moon landing with Americans.
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So that means, to be clear, her name is Brigitte Marie Trogneau.
We should be able to find Brigitte Marie Trogneau, having entered in the United States in the 60s multiple times.
But we couldn't find Brigitte Marie.
We also couldn't find Jean-Michel Trogneau anywhere in the United States manifest, the ship manifest that we're accustomed to looking through.
And I want you guys to know this: the Trogneau last name is incredibly uncommon.
If we make errors, we will correct them in the future.
Now, I'm going to protect the person's identity and not read the name so they don't get unnecessarily sued by the president of France.
But they said, Kenneth, so I'm assuming you saw that a Jean-Marie Trogneau entered into the United States in the 1960s.
And I'm going, no, I most certainly did not see that a Jean-Marie Tragneau entered into the United States in the 1960s.
That's kind of like a very good timeframe that we are looking for Jean-Michel Trogneau, and this is not a popular last name.
And they tell me, yeah, it's on the Department of Justice website.
It's in a document in the National Archives.
You can see that a certain Jean-Marie Trogneau entered into the United States, and he's listed as a crew member that is aboard a French cargo ship on August 27th, 1961.
Okay, so Jean-Michel would have been 16 years old.
And we have no trace of Jean-Michel during those years, right?
We don't know where Jean-Michel went.
We don't really know where this first lady went either when she was spending time in America.
This Jean-Marie, we can show you this document.
We can pull this up.
You can see it at the bottom there.
Jean-Marie, it tells us the last four digits of the passport is 3408, that he was an oiler.
And yeah, elsewhere we find that we believe that they came from Le Havre, France, which is a port and also a city in France, and that they made a stop in British Columbia.
You can see there on the left-hand side, that is the captain, Guy Choplin, being presented with a photo.
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I'm going to read you that caption.
It's in small prints, so bear with me.
Captain Guy Choplin, master of French Lines New MS Michigan, receives a framed photo of Seattle's harbor from a delegation of the Seattle Junior Chamber of Commerce.
The French-built vessel is on her maiden voyage to this Pacific coast.
Participating in the brief ceremonies were, and then it tells us that is Charles McLeod, that is Rolanda Luna, who's holding the photo on the left-hand side.
And then it's Captain Chopelin, who is not looking up.
So we can't get really a great idea of what he looks like, even though he is looking forward.
And also a certain Donald R. Tate.
General Steamship Corp Limited is the General Pacific Coast freight agents for the line.
I know, just to be super honest with you guys, nothing about shipping.
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So I am looking forward to the tips that are going to Florin.
You guys can probably even look at that photo and the outfit he is wearing and tell me stuff, right?
If you know about shipping, you know about shipping.
If you know about cargo ships, if you know about crews, how often crews change out, the point is, is this person is listed as a crew member of this ship.
We could not find that guy Choplin outside of this photo.
Now, regarding the ship, however, because then we just said, okay, what can we find out about this ship?
There wasn't much, but a very interesting thing was discovered.
Now, you will recall that Jean-Michel Tragneau, when we were like thinking about this Stanford thing, we're like, well, we know that he has a military file.
We know that he was in Spire, Germany, and he was a non-commissioned officer.
I know there's people in Germany that are looking through, trying to find photos and helping us out there.
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really appreciate that.
But still, given that information, it would have been a stretch for us to assume that he was aboard a ship that somehow made its way close to Stanford University just in time for a psychological experiment that happened in 1971.
Like that's a bit of a stretch.
There is quite literally no evidence of that, right?
But it is certainly not a stretch that whoever this Jean-Marie Tragnot character is, okay?
We can potentially put him exactly near Stanford University beginning at the year of 1971.
Do you want to know why we can do that?
Because, well, as you just saw, he's listed as the crew of the MS Michigan.
And in 1971, the MS Michigan was doing routes specifically from Germany to Oakland, California.
Okay.
How do we know that?
We learned this via the most obscure and random lawsuit that was filed.
I like the karma of that.
There just being a lawsuit that lets us be able to put this Jean-Marie Tragneau character potentially as a person working on this boat.
There was a random lawsuit that was filed against the shipping company for having ruined cargo.
Okay.
The lawsuit was filed by the Varian Association, the Varian Associates against the General Transatlantic Company.
Now, the General Transatlantic Company, the French, it's actually a French company that owns this ship.
And so you can see that right there at the top.
It says the company Générale Transatlantique, which I think was the person who runs that was given a Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1955 in France.
So that would be interesting to see that if there's some photos of that, who that was.
Anyways, I'm not going to bore you with the details of this lawsuit, but the French liner was appealing a decision, a lower court decision, which found them guilty of having damaged cargo.
It was an 8,000-pound electromagnet.
And they found them guilty and owing $35,000, not a small amount of money in the 70s.
But the lawsuit lists the facts of what happened.
The lawsuit states, quote, on January 18th, 1971, Varian contracted with the French line ship to ship a spectrometer system packed in six separate boxes from Oakland, California to Hamburg, West Germany.
And I would like to know if Jean-Marie Tragneau was the crew member while it was doing those rounds in 1971.
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Find me Jean-Marie Tragneau.
This should be very simple.
Like I said, there's not a lot of people to choose from.
Okay.
Now, I want to say something about the Stanford experiment because many of you guys emailed us regarding that photo.
Like I said, it looks like he's taking notes.
And you guys were going, first and foremost, I should let you know, all of our worlds are converging, going back to that book, Chaos, which for forever reason we're not allowed to discuss without upsetting a president of France.
Well, I remember that Stanford University was brought up a few times, you know, particularly as it relates to MKUltra.
The MKUltra experiment, like the president says, was this covert psychological operation that was run by Dr. Jolly West.
Like this is the villain of all villains, Dr. Jolly West.
And when you read that book, you're just like, wow, I can't even with the 60s.
I trust nothing that comes out of the 60s.
Well, interestingly enough, Jolly West, per Tom O'Neill's reporting, went to Stanford University.
He did a fellowship at Stanford University in 1966.
Okay, so we know for a fact, based on that book, that there were Stanford students, graduate students that were working with Jolly West.
Everything that happened in that book, I'm not going to recap everything, but it tells you in this page from Chaos that late in the fall of 1966, Jolly West arrived in San Francisco to study hippies and LSD.
The Bay Area had seen an unprecedented migration of middle-class youth with an explosion of recreational drug use.
West felt he had to witness it firsthand.
He secured a government grant and took a year-long sabbatical from his professorship at the University of Oklahoma, nominally to pursue a fellowship at Stanford, although that school had no record of his participation in a program there.
So it's like he went there and did a fellowship, but there's no record of that, which, if you've read Chaos, you know, all the records were destroyed.
And if it wasn't for the fact that that journalist, Tom O'Neill, started going through obscure university files, Jolly West, until the day he died, denied having anything to do with MKUltra.
There were tons of boxes and Tom O'Neill took the time to go through them.
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Anyways, lastly, I want to point out something else that's interesting.
Much of what the public was told about the Stanford experiment was a lie.
Okay.
There were accusations of bad faith acting, intentional acting, because they wanted to say that they got a specific response from having done this experiment.
And you will recall, I brought up this guy, David Eshelman, who was also known as the John Wayne of the experiment.
And he pretends like, oh, I had no idea I was going to be a guard.
But then on day two, I just became more brutal and I liked it.
And it was sadistic.
And this was like, I just got into it.
He's very over the top and comes across like an actor.
I'll let you watch that clip again real quickly.
Each day, I said, well, what can we do to ramp up what we did yesterday?
One was because I really believed I was helping the researchers with some better understanding of human behavior.
On the other hand, it was personally interesting to me.
You know, I cannot say that I, you know, did not enjoy what I was doing.
Maybe, you know, having so much power over these poor defenseless prisoners, you know, maybe, you know, you kind of get off on that a little bit.
So to be clear, he was an actor.
He was pursuing a degree in acting, and he is in fact a trained actor.
And while the public was told that these participants also didn't know each other, you know, we just putting it out of the newspaper and we got a response and then we went through some assessment and picked the ones that we thought would be best suited.
They actually did know each other.
And while David Eshelman runs around and gets all the attention and talks about how he loved it and like got into this role very quickly, he knew another participant who, for whatever reason, was kind of neglected.
He also held up a sign, said prison guard 3615, and goes, You guys can see this is actually me.
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And then, just to be doubly sure, triple sure, rather, I actually did a side-by-side comparison of his face.
I found his high school photo because I'm a psycho in a yearbook, and I was able to determine because he makes it clear that it's the same individual.
So, this guy was, this was legit.
It was John Mark.
And what he says in this Reddit AMA from 11 years ago, the first thing that he wants people to know is that the bad guard from the night shift, that being David Eshelman, was a high school friend of mine, he writes.
Unfortunately, the experiments and the way his play acting was interpreted as a real, as real tainted the results and caused me to not feel as friendly toward him anymore after that.
Occasionally, he goes on, we meet at reunions, and at one occasion, he apologized for his behavior.
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Then he goes on and he writes, and this gets really interesting: the prisoner who was removed from the experiment for a breakdown was the younger brother of one of my friends.
Okay, so now we realize that three of them potentially knew each other.
And even more, because he writes, but I never had any subsequent contact with him.
When he was removed, he was replaced by a new prisoner who was, in fact, a grad student who was working with Philip Zimbardo.
That's the guy who ran the entire experiment, who was placed as a mole to find out what the student prisoners were up to.
This new prisoner/slash grad student was also an acquaintance of mine.
So while I didn't doubt him, and I'm sure none of us were supposed to know that he was a part of the research team, nor was his background ever published to my knowledge, I knew who he was.
So he's saying that, which we learn in terms of what was publicized, some people quit the experiment.
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Those people have said that they were acting.
One of the individuals said they were acting.
And he's now saying that there was this prisoner swap, which wasn't reported, where a graduate student then went in and became a prisoner, but he was really a mole that was working under Philip Zimbardo.
Now, that part is interesting because many of you emailed us about prisoner number 2093, thinking that that prisoner in the Stanford prison experiment looked a lot like Jean-Michel Trumeau.
But again, we didn't think that was possible because in that side profile shot, the JMT lookalike is clearly not a prisoner.
Like he's like writing notes.
He's not in the right prison garb.
And then suddenly there is a lot of gray images where it looks like it could be JMT.
But then in other images throughout, that prisoner looks like a totally different person.
Like he's got long blonde hair here.
And I'm going, why do I feel like this is two different people?
Like sometimes he's got weight on him and sometimes he doesn't.
So I just kind of put it out of my mind.
The appearance, just like the change in the appearance seems strange.
But now this guy is saying, like, no, they, they, they changed around who the prisoners were, that they sent in a mole.
And who knows what happened?
Because Zimbardo has essentially locked down the files.
A lot of you guys were like, oh, the names of them.
You know, we found the names here of the people that were involved in the experiment.
No, he says in his book that he used different names to protect their identities.
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And he has never actually released the full list of the individuals, the 24 students who we were told didn't know each other that were involved in this experiment.
And so I don't know.
I don't know what to think here, but I am now very interested.
There's a lot of things that are that's happening now to be clear.
It could be nothing.
It could be nothing.
As we saw during the Kamala Chronicles, as we began looking into things, sometimes you want something to fit and it could fit and then you're wrong.
And so, if it's wrong and we get more information, we'll be the first ones to let you know, right?
But I am getting increasingly interested because you have to wonder what the hell warrants a response like this from a sitting president in a foreign country.
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What the hell warrants a response from a sitting president of this country?
Why did Trump call me so quickly?
Like something I didn't think about until I was reflecting upon it, how quick that phone call came in right after Emmanuel Macron left.
Is there something that we accidentally, like I always do, stumbled upon just because I was interested?
Did I accidentally stumble upon something that could potentially implicate the United States in some way?
What was Brigitte doing?
Like, actually, what was Brigitte doing in the United States throughout her youth?
The good thing is that first and foremost, you guys can email us and we will investigate everything.
We will actually include links to all of this.
The Skylar, if you want to make a note, the Reddit AMA, we will include a link to that.
Also, we will include a link so that you can see that on the Department of Justice website.
If you are in Canada, please start looking through shipping records and see if you can find a Jean-Marie, anybody with the last name Chrongyo, that would also be helpful everywhere you are in the world.
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Also, in that lawsuit, it said that the ship deviated.
That was one of the reasons they were suing and went off course.
They say that the ship stopped in Antwerp.
So, yeah, tons of people all over that can get involved and just see what you can find on ship manifest.
If you can find that last name, and maybe you're going, actually, Candice, I know the crew member, Jean-Marie Chogneau, and I can shut this down immediately for you.
It's listed that he graduates then four years later.
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So that's another question mark.
Again, we were told it's supposed to be all these people around.
I don't know what's happening, but as we take this week off, we're going to start going through and seeing what it is that we can learn about every individual that was involved in this experiment because I've already discovered that a few of them spoke French.
I don't know what the chances are that you round up random people in America, graduate students, and they're French.
They can also speak French.
That's of interest to me.
But we could be trying to make it fit.
You know, we could be trying to make it fit.
And maybe it doesn't.
So you guys will have to let us know.
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Very preliminary research that I'm talking about.
While we were on break, there is a lot of things that we have to look into.
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But one of the themes that we have talked about on the show, which is interesting, is how culture seems to be pushing upon us this idea that incest can be sexy.
Most recently, I was referring to the Kardashian sisters.
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I actually have been screaming about this for years, even back when I was on Daily Wire, going, Hey, guys, you know how they're selling perfume, but like Kylie and her sisters are all half naked next to each other, making sexy faces.
Yet, that is them trying to kind of seed the idea to us that incest can be okay, and it's not okay.
Similarly, Heidi Klum, her daughter just turned 18, they did this ad where they were like half naked.
I don't remember what, I think they were might have been selling lingerie.
That, if my sister even came within 20 feet of me in a bikini, I would tackle her.
Okay, supposed to be like, you know, but they're trying to be like, oh, like, oh, and we're enticing and sexy, like buy the product.
So we received another email and somebody gave me a tip and said, Hey, Kenneth, I'm trying to access this file, but I am getting the last name Trognyo and I can't, but when I click it, I can't open it.
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And what I realized when I took a look at that was the individual was trying to access a book and it required that that person paid $33 to be able to access why Trognyo was being mentioned in the context of China in the 18th century.
It tells us that, and I'm recapping here, but essentially, there was in China a rebellion that took place.
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And a bunch of Jesuits leading up to this rebellion, not a bunch of Jesuits, a few, a handful of Jesuits, under the guise of saying that we're here on a Catholic mission, came in to China, one of their names being Father Trognyo.
I kid you not, the full name is Father Francois Theodore Trognyo came in to China.
And then it tells us very quickly in this book that the Catholics were accused of being white lotus members, white lotus members.
And I'm like, okay, that is interesting.
What is white lotus?
And then I learned that there it was, there's this big rebellion that took place in China.
It was called the White Lotus Rebellion.
And in my preliminary research, it tells me that the aspects of this, there were accusations that were thrown of sexual impropriety that was taking place.
I don't know if it had something to do with tantric sex rituals.
It's weird.
It is weird, okay?
That somehow this was taking place.
And then we learned that a father Trogno, and then when I researched, of course, he's from the Picardy region of France, that a father Trogneau was there.
And they don't even put the full name of Father Trogno.
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I actually had to look up Father Trogneau after this book.
But it tells us that the suspicions of Catholics being linked to the White Lotus sect led to a persecution in 1747 in which Martillia, I'm going to spell that for you guys, M-A-R-T-I-L-I-A-T, and other Europeans were forced to leave Shichuan for Macau.
Okay, so they were French missionaries, and they said that they somehow got blamed, said that they were being accused of being part of the White Lotus sect.
Tells us on the next page that under Mieu-Liné, who was a Jesuit missionary that went into China, he then brought in three other Lazarists, and their names were Fathers Gandin, Father Monet, and Father Tronyo.
That they were sent from France, and they arrived in China at the end of 1733.
Like I said, not only because the French Revolution happens, but because another hit dog that hollered in all of this was when I talked about Jacob Frank.
When I talked about this Frankist movement that took place at this same time, they were individuals that were, it was a cult of military.
They believed in constantly changing their names.
And Jacob Frank's cousin was the person behind the French Revolution.
They mass converted into the Catholic Church because they practice apostasy.
So the best way to bring down your enemies is from within.
So to pretend that you're pious, that you're Catholic, and then to crush the church from the inside.
Jacob Frank's cousin went by three different names, by the way, Austria.
If you want to look into the von Schoenfeld family, he went by Moses de Brushka, which was his real name, during the, what was his name during the French Revolution?
Can you look that up?
Look up Moses de Brushka.
I'm not that that's the easiest thing to spell, but I'm going to need to know before we, I need to figure this out because I want to know what his three names were so people can kind of look into this individual.
I also heard that during that White Lotus rebellion, that person who eventually led that rebellion proclaimed that he was a Messiah, if I'm correct.
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Very little stuff that I can find on it.
Again, this is the beginning of research, but it tells us that he converted from Judaism to the Catholic faith and he took on the name Franz Thomas Schoenfeld, right?
So he went by Franz Thomas Schonfeld.
He also in Vienna went by Franz Thomas Elder von Schoenfeld.
And then he went by Moses de Brushka.
And yeah, this guy, Ephraim Joseph Hirschfeld, Hirschfeld was the last name.
They just were, they were Freemasons at the end of the day.
They were the main activists of the Masonic Lodge.
And they were active in Germany.
They were active in Austria between 1783 and 1790.
And then obviously we know the French Revolution happens at that time.
That's why we go to you guys, because we get to just activate a bunch of investigators.
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Poor Ilyse Palace staying up late right now watching this.
I think they really did believe that I was working with like Russian people, the Russian government, as well as the far right politicians in various countries.
And truly, when we go through this court process, they're going to realize it's just moms and dads that are concerned about what's happening in the world right now, all over the world, that are sending information, that are doing due diligence, that know something because they were sailors or they were captains or they have access because they know how to research an archive center faster than I do.
If you were in this experiment, maybe John Mark, you'd like to speak.
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I don't know if you're still alive.
I'll look into that.
It's all a part of our research.
We're exploring, as I said at the top of the show, every available lead because now we need to find, we need to finally get to the truth of what happened to Jean-Michel Tragoneau.
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It's, we, I don't have the money, uh, but we will be able to, with you guys supporting me like this and people buying and supporting my upcoming book and everything else, we'll be able to find it somewhere because we can't keep letting them do this.
Like, we will crush you and ruin your life and we'll impoverish you for speaking the truth because we don't want to.
Extradite Tom Alexandranovic to Alexandrovic to the USA.
Yep, that is the Israeli that was arrested in Vegas.
And yeah, Pam Bondi just couldn't get out there fast enough to condemn it like she did when that Zionist student got lightly shoved on a college campus.
You are writing that SPE, oh, the Stanford Prison Experiment, the person who ran it, Philip Zimbardo's follow-up slide show stated, quote, less good news is that Sarge, that's prisoner 2093, was later arrested for high technology equipment theft.
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I couldn't find any arrest record in case someone else can.
Okay, that's a good thing that you're introducing.
Prisoner 2093 was later arrested, according to Philip Zimbardo, for high technology equipment theft.
Could it be like an electromagnetic 8,000-pound electromagnetic lawsuit?
I don't even know what you do with 8,000 pounds of magnet.
I'm kidding there.
I know that will then just appear in a later lawsuit.
Obviously, it's not genuine when you are gaslighting us about Jeffrey Epstein.
If it was genuine, he thought, just thought that it was a mission.
He would have no issue telling us about Jeffrey Epstein because there's no way he thinks that his mission, his God-given mission, is to protect a convicted pedophile.
So I just, I do forcefully reject the idea that this is just being motivated because he feels that it's his atonement in life.
We don't really have a clear idea of that, but it ain't God saving him, I don't think.
Heartless writes, hey, hey, Candace, Hollywood is making incest more palatable or romanticizing it also on the House of Dragon, Game of Thrones, and A Simple Favor, amongst other.
They are literally telling us a vision, telling us it's okay.
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That's why that book, Hollywood Babylon, is even significant.
It's why they turn people into stars and they get the stars to do things that seem outrageous because they know that it will create a following as people will look at them and worship the stars.
Like we learned in Hollywood Babylon, the book, they quite literally were trying to turn it into a religion.
So you are being indoctrinated into a religion via cult, via culture.
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The question is, what religion is it?
What religion is it that wants men to be women and women to be men and wants to make us glorify incest as a theme?
What religion is that exactly?
The closest thing I can find to it would be Jacob Frank, the Frankists that were behind the French Revolution.
That would be the closest thing that I could find that mimics that apostasy, lying, propaganda, writing, publishing, changing your names like gypsies, infiltrating, and practicing incest as a right.
That was Kabbalistic.
That's just the fact.
And they don't like you talking about it.
So maybe we should stop talking about it or take a week break so we can research and come back with absolute fire when we return with Becoming Brigitte Season 2, you guys.
Certainly not what I think Emmanuel Macron thought was going to happen.
Emmanuel Macron, I still do perceive you as a victim.
I really do.
And I can't imagine what it is.
I don't think you know anything but acting.
I think when you get to that stage, having acted, as we know, all through your life, beginning when Brigitte pursued you, if somebody came in and said, cut, I think you might feel like you don't even know who you are.
Like, what do you mean?
This is what I've always done.
And so I am sympathetic to the 14-year-old boy that was at that school, that was acting.
And I can only imagine, like, I don't know.
I don't even know how you would ever be able to put the genie back into the bottle.
So you are fighting me because you need to accept that this reality is real, that everything that happened to you is okay.
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Reading the Sigmund Freud book that I'm currently reading, The Assault on Truth, or reading my book club, really lets me know that victims can become the most ardent defenders of their oppressors.
That is the reality.
I mean, the way that you defended and the Laze Palace tried to lie when we watched Brigitte Macron physically lay hands on you is stunning.
Your instinct was to protect the person that had hit you and to lie to the public, to gaslight the public.
You guys, while we are off, if you have been enjoying this and you want to invest in our series, please head to cannasones.com, sign up, buy a t-shirt, buy a hashtag free emanual t-shirt to support this lawsuit because they got money, money, and we don't.
I believe that they have been keeping us protected and keeping us safe.
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And like I have been praying for stuff, information to just land on our lap so that we can get to the truth of this before we even ever arrive into the courtroom.
And I think that we're one step closer.
Who is Jean-Marie Trogneau?
Hopefully we'll have more information for you when the Becoming Brigitte Season 2 premieres in a little over a week.