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July 17, 2023 - Candace Owens
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Is Carlee Russell The Female Jussie Smollet?!
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All right, guys. Happy Monday.
We are back in Nashville, and I'm very excited to dive into this story because I've been obsessed with it over the last 72 hours.
I am talking, of course, about Carly Russell.
Do you know who Carly Russell is?
If you don't know who she is, you must have been under a rock for the 72 hours.
And you're definitely racist if you don't know who she is.
And also, if you do know who she is and you're following this story, you're also a racist.
Guys, I don't make up these rules.
I don't make up these internet rules.
I'm victim to them all the time.
But the truth is that Carly Russell is a woman who vanished after seeing a toddler on the side of the highway.
She then reappeared at her parents' house 48 hours later.
And so I guess the real question is, is Carly Russell about to be bigger than Jussie Smollett?
Plus, later on in the show, we're going to be discussing a doctor who performs sex change surgeries on trans children.
He admits that they face a lifetime of infertility, incontinence, and sexual dissatisfaction in a, of course, now deleted video.
All that and more today coming up on Candice Owens Where do we start where to begin?
I say that I'm obsessed with the story.
I can't look away. I'm refreshing, looking for updates, and things are getting really weird.
So let's just back this up.
A woman, her full name is Carlithia Russell.
She goes by Carly Russell, went missing.
The world found out about this because of a man claiming to be her brother on TikTok.
Take a listen. My sister Carly Russell is missing.
My sister was traveling on I-459 after leaving work here in Hoover, Alabama.
She spotted a toddler and she stopped to render aid as any decent human being with a heart would do.
She contacted 911 as she's been taught and then she spoke with another one of our family members.
My family member hears a scream and then my sister vanishes along with that toddler.
Her car and belongings were all left at the scene.
We have no idea what she is.
This story is not getting the national coverage that it should and we all know why.
Yep, we all know why.
Heavily implied there is just because she's black.
That's the reason that the story is not getting national attention, which of course is so foolish.
There are so many stories of people that go missing, and usually unless there's some angle that makes it interesting, people don't tend to follow up on it.
It's sad, but that's the truth.
You know if a crackhead goes missing or a prostitute goes missing there's typically not as much interest because you
think okay They were living their life styles in a manner where maybe
they ended up dead in some way, right?
But that wasn't the case with Carly Russell. In fact, I hadn't even seen his tick-tock
I had read a small headline about the fact that she was missing and what
instantly Compelled me to want to share this story and to give it as
much attention as possible Was the fact that there was a toddler that was included you
have a woman who's leaving work And she's a toddler walking down a highway. She pulls over
and then suddenly she's missing. It's even more horrific than that
They find her wig, her phone inside of her purse on the side of the highway.
And by the way, the police had gotten there within five minutes of her phoning 911.
And yet still, she was completely gone.
So obviously, I texted my producers immediately.
I said, I want to cover this story on Monday because it's terrifying.
It's terrifying to think that this could actually happen to someone.
And then I made sure to draw attention to it on my Twitter.
I tweeted this. This is one of the more terrifying news stories I've read in a long time.
I hope they find this toddler and Carlithia Russell.
So that was the public sentiment.
Everybody was obviously concerned about not just Carly Russell, but this alleged toddler that was walking down a highway in Alabama.
How could you not be concerned?
Everyone prayed for her safe return.
And then prayers were answered.
Miraculously, Carly Russell turned up 48 hours later at her parents' home.
And of course, that yielded more questions.
People wanted to know, okay, should we still be looking for a toddler?
Should we be concerned?
Is there a crazy person on the loose?
Is this a gang?
Is this a cartel?
What has happened here?
Bizarrely, however, public sentiment had shifted.
So at first, the brother condemned you if you weren't talking about
Carly Russell because of the color of her skin.
But then you had a few people online who were saying, but if
you had any further questions about this story, now that
Carlethea Russell was home, well, then it's because you're a racist.
Here are just a couple of tweets to that effect.
First up, we have Gabrielle Perry.
She wrote, From the cradle to the grave, there is no humanity for black women.
No room for mistakes, no graciousness in perfection.
Immediate vilification in our errors.
There is not one moment where our personhood can exist.
Not even in relief of it not being stolen.
Hashtag Harley Russell.
Oh my gosh, we should not be asking any questions.
We're just supposed to be happy that she's alive.
That's what she's implying here.
It gets worse. Another person tweeted this.
Please stop demanding what happened to Carly Russell.
The appetite for trauma porn for black people is disturbing.
From images of our bloody bodies posted repeatedly following violent death to our children in great distress.
Give us peace and privacy as you do Carol, Anne, and Dem.
I guess they're just saying names that they think are white names there, being blatantly racist.
Yeah, but that's it. If you wanted further answers, like a toddler walking down a highway
and we're being told this woman was abducted at around 9.30 p.m. at night, then yeah, no,
you're just into black trauma porn. Now that she's home safe, you're supposed to just not
ask any questions. Now I want to make it clear that the majority of people did not fall for this,
trying to racialize this incident.
You called for national interest and attention.
The story got national interest and attention.
And now the national appetite would like some closure.
It would like to know whether or not there is, in fact, a kidnapper on the loose.
If there is somebody that is using a toddler to lure unsuspecting victims into a woods.
If there is somebody who would so in, really in front of all of these cars on what is a
busy highway, just grab someone out of their car and take them.
That's scary stuff.
Of course, there was public interest.
But now they were trying to gaslight the public and say, no further questions.
I can tell you one thing that I found suspicious.
The first thing is just the fact that she got allegedly dropped off at her parents'
house.
Yeah, that's a bit weird.
Who do you know that gets kidnapped?
And then after they're kidnapped for 48 hours and held against their will, the perpetrator says, hey, where would you like to get dropped off?
Oh, your parents' house? I'll take you there.
What's the address? Doesn't sound right.
I also thought it was strange that we learned that the parents phoned the police to say that she was home.
Okay? But they didn't immediately rush her to the emergency room so that, let me know that she arrived in a good enough physical condition.
Because obviously, if she had been raped or she was harmed, they would have instantly called the police on the way to the hospital.
And of course, again, where is the toddler?
Where is the toddler?
We have a right to know whether or not there is a child that is still missing and potentially at risk and in danger.
The mother, Carly Russell's mother, took to Facebook, and again, I would say the sentiments were a little different coming from the family.
She wrote this... Great morning!
My husband and I want to make this statement again as we did last night.
It's nothing more to add or take away from how we're feeling right now.
God is faithful and He has answered our prayers.
We are so grateful to each of you for all the acts of kindness, generosity, and compassion that you have shown.
Our baby is safe.
Thank you, Father God.
We do want to ask for privacy at this time to allow us to just love on our daughter and each other with our close family and friends.
Also, please consider the fact that we have not slept for three nights and we are mentally and physically exhausted.
To our media friends, I promise we will speak with you and give a general statement in the near future, as this is an ongoing investigation.
We consider the media outlets that care enough to share the story, law enforcement agencies,
special investigators, city leaders, to be our friends, and we will be respectful of
all.
For everyone that has messaged or called to rejoice with us, we are so grateful for your
concern.
Just as we made a commitment to not entertain negative thoughts during the time that our
daughter was missing, we surely will not entertain negative thoughts or statements, unvalidated
opinions, or sheer ignorance at such a joyous time.
We pray that those that doubt God's power, miracles, and the power of faith will be encouraged to draw closer to Him and learn the power of positive affirmations and unwavering faith.
We love each of you and are eternally indebted for your support and love.
Be blessed, the Russells.
So she's saying a lot, but really nothing.
She's basically saying it's now time for you guys to all mind your own business, and we'll give an update when we're ready because we're tired.
Again, ignoring the fact that the public interest is now shifted toward this toddler who was allegedly walking down a freeway at 9.30 at night wearing just a t-shirt and a diaper, according to Carly Russell's 911 call shortly before she disappeared.
So she calls 911, she says, I see a toddler walking down, and then she calls a relative and says, I'm going to check on the toddler, and then her relative hears a scream, and Carly goes missing.
Now that Carly's been found, they're saying that we shouldn't be asking further questions, and they're just not going to entertain Carly.
Anything else seems suspicious.
A different update came from Carly's boyfriend.
Carly's boyfriend took to Facebook.
His name is Tomar Latrell Simmons, and he wrote this.
I don't even know how to start off this post, but to only say thank you to my Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, for saving my girlfriend's life.
Also, thank you to everyone who shared a picture, came out to the Hoover Met to help us with the search parties, and who went and proceeded to tell other people about Carly to bring more awareness to her story.
I have been going nonstop since I received the call that she was missing on Thursday night.
I know she would have done the same for me, so I wasn't going to give up until I saw her face again.
It was straight tunnel vision.
Even when I would get on social media in my downtime and see some of the false allegations and assumptions about me having something to do with her abduction, it would have me discouraged at times.
I didn't give up and I kept my faith.
I just want to thank all of my family, friends, She was literally fighting for her life for 48 hours.
So until she's physically and mentally stable again, she's not able to give any updates or whereabouts on her kidnapper at this very moment.
I also want to thank people on social media who have been understanding and respectful about what she's been through in these past few days.
Once again, I can't thank you guys enough for helping us bring Carly home.
God bless you all.
Hashtag Carly found.
Hashtag Carly Russell.
So let's just go back to that sentence that she was literally fighting for her life for 48 hours.
So She's physically and mentally unstable and not willing to give any updates.
Again, registers to me as odd because her parents contacted the police to say that she was home and didn't rush her to a hospital per se.
But I didn't want to jump to any conclusions.
I wanted to wait until the police department made a statement because family members posting on Facebook to basically say stop asking questions is not, of course, going to be the statements that are given by the police.
Somebody is kidnapped. They understand that the public has a right to know that there is a kidnapper on the loose.
Well, the Hoover PD did, in fact, give an update.
I'm going to read you portions of it because really what they're doing is telling you what happened to Carly on that day.
They wrote, Carly communicated on her cell phone with individuals that were known to her while on her path of travel up to the point of calling 911 at 9.44 p.m.
The conversation with the 911 operator ended and Carly called a relative.
So to be clear, just a pause here, she called 911 to say that she saw a toddler, a white male toddler, that was walking down the street in a pamper and a t-shirt.
And then she hung up that phone and she called a relative of hers.
She went missing during that conversation with her relative sometime after 9.36pm after telling both the 911 operator and the relative that she had seen a male toddler in a diaper on the side of I-459 and was stopping to check on him.
Traffic camera footage was obtained, which depicted this portion of the incident, and that footage is still being analyzed as part of the investigation in conjunction with the 911 call to accurately determine the time frame.
Carly's 911 call remains the only timely report of a child on the interstate.
Now I'm going to pause here to show you the interstate because apparently there was a camera and the footage is grainy.
But what you are going to see in this footage is how busy the interstate is, which is why it's weird to me, definitely strange, definitely suspect, if you will, that no one else would have phoned in seeing a toddler walking down the interstate in a diaper.
Again, if you don't want to stop, it's nighttime.
You might think, well, that's a little weird.
But you would at least think that one person had a moral compass enough to call 911 and say, hey, this is kind of weird.
There's a toddler that is walking down the interstate at 9.30 at night.
Take a look at this footage.
So that car that you're seeing on the right hand side is Carly's.
You see she has her blinkers on, so cars are going slowly around her.
You can see up ahead, there's a ton of cars on this interstate, all slowing down because Carly has her blinkers on.
You would think that since these cars are slowing down, that they would be paying attention to the side, people rub
her neck, and they would see Carly's vehicle.
What I don't see in this footage, again, it's dark, and obviously it could very well be that she saw something that
nobody else did.
is a toddler walking down the interstate.
You see she's got her blinkers on, she's got her blinkers on, and then she comes to a full stop.
Again, I just am remarking at how This interstate is.
When I first read the story, I assumed this was like an old dirt road in Alabama.
Now I realize it's a very busy interstate, and I instantly thought, how strange that no one would call 911 to report this toddler walking down the street but Carly.
Now let's go back to the police statement.
It continues, Hoover police officers arrived on the scene within five minutes of being dispatched.
And several other officers arrived shortly behind.
They located Carly's wig, cell phone, and purse on the roadway near her vehicle.
And Carly's Apple Watch was in her purse.
Investigators with the Crimes Against Persons Unit were notified and the investigation immediately began
in earnest with numerous leads being followed.
Many local, state, and federal agencies immediately offered assistance and provided personnel
and other resources to the investigation.
No stone was left unturned and the investigation continued throughout the weekend.
At 10.44 p.m.
on July 15th, the Hoover 911 Center received a call from Carly's residence that she had returned home on foot.
Hoover Police and Fire responded to the residence where Carly was located.
She was immediately transported by the Hoover Fire Department to UAB Hospital to be evaluated and was treated and released.
Detectives responded to the residence and And to UAB to take an initial statement from Carly.
The details of that statement are a part of the ongoing investigation, which is expected to continue over the next few days.
During the initial portion of the investigation, detectives were able to retrace nearly all of Carly's steps until the point that she went missing, and they are confident that will continue to be the case.
The end is just, they're grateful for the outpouring of support from the Hoover community and beyond and all the assistance provided by our law enforcement partners, which are too numerous to name.
Blah, blah, blah, thanking hashtag HooverPD.
Now, the first thing that jumps at me regarding this statement, obviously, is what I pointed out to you before, which is that she was the only report, she was the only person that called in and phoned in this toddler.
The second thing that jumps at me immediately about this report is what the police are not saying.
The police didn't say, which I think would be the first thing that you would say to the public, is remain vigilant, ladies.
There's a kidnapper on the loose.
We don't have the kidnapper. We've got Carly.
Thank goodness we've got Carly. But yeah, no, there's a kidnapper on the loose.
Lock your doors. Make sure that you're traveling in twos.
I think that would be the response of a police department that had some information or believed any part of her story that she was actually kidnapped.
You have a responsibility to inform the public that they need to be aware of this.
No, they didn't say that at all.
The second thing that jumped on me was that Carly was only in the hospital for a few hours.
And again, her parents didn't rush to the hospital.
A standard sent the fire truck and an ambulance over to transport her to evaluate her.
And then she was treated and released in less than a day.
That's actually incredible. If you go to the emergency room, it's hard to be at the hospital for less than a day, but Carly managed to do it.
So despite her boyfriend claiming that she was kidnapped and fought for her life for 48 hours, apparently when the hospital assessed her, she was in good enough mental and physical condition to have been released in 24 hours.
That just jumps at me immediately.
So, yeah, there are a lot of lingering questions here.
The story is not adding up.
And lastly, and of course the biggest thing that the police officers failed to mention, is the toddler.
They didn't say, please be on the lookout for a white male toddler wearing a diaper and a t-shirt.
You would think that if this was a missing person, an amber alert of some description would go out, that the police would have a sketch.
They would ask Carly, please describe the toddler that you saw so we can release a sketch and tell the public to look out for this toddler.
None of that is in the statement.
Simply what they are saying is that they are going to take time to prod just Carly's story.
So yeah, something is afoot.
It's not looking good for Carly.
It seems that her family calling for silence or asking for people not to ask any other questions is weird.
I think that I would be very forthcoming and say, like, my daughter is healing.
But remember that also there's a toddler out there that everyone needs to look for.
It seems suddenly they have gone very hush-hush.
And of course, We're good to go.
Now, what I will add here, I've been paying attention to the internet and what people are reporting from that area, and there is a rumor, a rumor, again, I cannot verify this in any capacity, that Carly actually plotted this with a 17-year-old that she was seeing on the side of her boyfriend, and that she escaped with him out of the car, but he was also in the vehicle with her, And that the story is her parents are super strict and that her and him were together sort of on the run for 48 hours.
Now, again, I don't know if this is going to be some lover's triangle, but what I am saying is that just using my brain here, it doesn't sound like there was actually a toddler that lured her off of the road.
So either she had some sort of a mental break, which in my view would be the best case scenario, or Or she plotted this entire thing for what reason, we don't know.
But the rumors on the internet is that she was seeing a 17-year-old and she wanted to get away with him.
So we are paying attention to the story.
It's all I could pay attention to right now.
I am just obsessed with it falling apart.
I'm obsessed with the public telling us that we're not allowed to look while it's falling apart.
You know why? Because I hate liars.
That's all I have to say about that.
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Okay, now it's time for some Topics du Jour.
So there's a doctor's His name is Dr. Peters. He has pink hair.
I feel like that's relevant. And he lives in Portland.
I feel like that's also relevant.
Anyways, Dr. Blair Peters is a surgeon who performs sex change surgery on trans children.
And he has come out in a since-deleted video that has now been circulating social media and flat-out admitted that people that have these procedures, children that have these procedures, face a lifetime of infertility, incontinence, and sexual violence.
Now, as these videos are making the round, and he's talking about how a lot of this is experimental, I'm going to allow you to hear him in his own words shortly, viewers were upset.
They're calling these procedures evil, and they're comparing them to Nazi-era experiments.
People are comparing this to Frankenstein.
Why would you do this on children?
Well, let's hear Dr.
Peters in his own words.
New is genital surgery in someone that has underwent pubertal suppression.
Not so much an issue in someone with a signed female at birth anatomy that undergoes a phalloplasty because we're creating something with a free tissue transfer, a flap anyway, but a much bigger issue for an individual that's undergoing a penile inversion vaginoplasty.
Because we use all of that tissue to basically create the vulva as well as line the internal vaginal canal.
And as a specialty, those of us that do a fairly high volume of genital gender affirming surgery, you know, we've maybe done a couple, a handful of pubertally suppressed adolescents as a field and no one's published on it yet.
OHSU is, we're just putting our first series together as we're kind of learning and figuring out what works.
But it's really changing things because you don't have enough tissue to line the vaginal canal.
So you either have to take a skin graft or take skin from elsewhere or use an artificial product.
The way that we're dealing with it is by using a robot.
And we're basically performing intra-abdominal components of the surgery.
So we're using peritoneum, which is the inner lining of the abdomen to line most of the vaginal canal.
I don't see what the big deal is. They're figuring it out as they perform these surgeries on children.
This is kind of one of the things you just want to figure out as you go.
He then goes on to describe the procedures that they do, which is performing wholesale genital removals for non-binary patients, which is an increasingly popular procedure known as nullification.
Quite literally, you are turning people into Unix because they self-identify as non-binary patients.
I'm happy that this video is making the rounds.
We've talked about these procedures on the show.
I think education is the best ingredient here.
I'm not sure what people think happens or why people believe that this is such an easy procedure and such an easy decision that you should encourage children one way or the other.
But again, when I see these things, I'm personally happy that people are learning about these procedures.
He also goes on in the video to address the handful of puberty-suppressed adolescents undergoing genital surgeries at OHSU, referring to minors who have taken puberty blockers to delay their growth spurt.
With those boy-to-girl transitioners, he says that surgeons just don't have enough tissue to build the neo-vagina and must graft the skin from elsewhere.
So that is what you are hearing when he talks about He admits that some have a really demanding post-operative care process, as I would imagine.
And he says, quote, we've seen patients coming back even 20 plus years out from a vaginoplasty
that have something happen in their life that they just don't dilate and they aren't having
sex for a year.
And they will start to lose a lot of the death.
This is regarding their neo vagina.
He said that his techniques and success rates were improving as ever more Americans, both
young and old, are opting for genital surgery.
But that there was still much to learn on this new frontier of medicine.
He says, quote, we're going to learn a lot more about it the next five to 10 years as
we're just increasing the numbers of these cases.
So yes, he's a huge advocate for trans medicine.
I think that you should find this video in its entirety and learn about it.
If you're someone that is pro-trans and think that it's just a child's choice and it's a simple choice to make, then at least do us a favor and become educated about these procedures.
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Obviously, last week when I was in France, I had a really long discussion regarding homosexuality with Brendan Tatum.
I was very pleased to have a discussion because, as I've realized just throughout my career, and as I said when I was talking to Brendan, is I have definitely become more conservative on the gay issues as time has gone by, and that is just because I am seeing the I just thought, oh, it's about love is love.
I kind of believed all of that.
Obviously, I used to be left-leaning, and now I am seeing what has happened in this society since we said okay to gay marriage and the fact that we're even talking about experimenting on children and the individuals that are behind backing this.
The first comment comes from Adriondo's YouTube.
He writes, I love watching heterosexuals trying to explain our identity as if we cannot speak for ourselves.
Being gay is more than just having sex or thinking about sex.
There's a lot of gay males that actually do love each other.
It seems like you're trying to make it more perverted because it's no other way for you to explain it.
Even if I was paralyzed from the waist down, I'd still be with a man.
It's very weird how anal sex is the first thing that comes to homophobic people's minds as if there is absolutely nothing else keeping two people there.
I appreciate your sentiment, but no, that was not the discussion that we had.
What I have actually said to you is that when I'm in discussions with my gay friends, it's unbelievable to hear how often they talk about sex.
It's just the truth.
And then we talked about the reality, which is that two men can have sex constantly every
single day and there are no barriers, no natural born barriers that are preventing that.
A woman being, you know, just having a baby, a woman menstruating, these things that prevent
your relationship from being centered around sex, which are built into natural order.
And gay men don't have that.
We talked about the gay pride parades.
We talked about why gay pride has become almost synonymous with sexuality, why there are people
that are now walking in dog chains.
How has that become the symbol of pride?
If I said, let's have a heterosexual pride parade, people would probably show up with
their families and their kids.
No one's going to say, let's wear leather and whips and chains and get on all fours
and walk like dogs and call it pup play.
You know that's true.
You're listening to this and you know that that is true.
That if I said, let's have a heterosexual pride parade, nobody would be simulating sex acts.
Why is that? Ask yourself a very tough question about your own community. It's hard to do that by the way
I do it every single day when I'm assessing what's gone wrong in the black community, right?
I talk about criminality. I talk about the culture of black culture. I'm willing to do that
You know It takes a lot to become introspective and to be able to
assess what has gone wrong with an attribute that you have You say you're a homosexual will be an honest homosexual
about what your community is bringing forth into this culture
Next comment Aliyah awakened rights. Thank you both for speaking on this. I'm a bisexual woman and I was repeated
Repeatedly sexually abused by a female friend when I was six years old. Yes, it's possible for a girl to abuse
another girl Yes
It's possible for a six-year-old girl to be cruel and domineering and violent and to enact perversity
God knows what happened to her to make her that way at such a young age and for it to be deeply traumatizing
My first sexual experiences were with a girl and they were non consensual
I believe this is the reason behind my bisexuality and the reason that I attracted a lot of sexual abuse in my life.
The latter wasn't my fault, but my neuropathways were literally programmed for it.
I've worked hard these last 14 years to break that programming, not because I believe there's something wrong with love or freedom of choice, but I don't want to live with perversity.
And as I heal, I notice that I'm dropping the masculine shield that I had built and started to long deeply to be the feminine woman I'm in a relationship with a masculine man.
The feminine woman that I am in a relationship with a masculine man.
Yeah, there were a lot of these comments of people that were homosexual and that were coming out and saying in the comments that, yes, I was abused when I was a child.
And I do believe that that first sexual experience that you have It's very important that it does establish neural pathways, and that is why there are so many, as we talked about with me and Brandon, gays and lesbian people that were abused sexually in their childhood by someone of the same sex.
And if that's your first sexual experience, that becomes, again, that neural pathway being established of this is what it means to be aroused.
I'm happy that we have had the courage to have that discussion on the show and that so many gay people and lesbian people felt compelled to comment and to say, actually, I am one of those people in those statistics because those people are silenced because there's this idea that it's like, no, you were just born every single gay and lesbian person was born this way.
No, some of it is trauma, some of it is a social contagion, and perhaps a very minute, as the individual I spoke about on the show suggested, very, very, very small, minute group of people are born homosexual in the same way that a very small, minute group of people are born with gender dysphoria, but the majority of it actually has been nurtured.
Again, that was his suggestion, not mine, but these comments all but verify it.
The next comment comes from Sebastian Targaryen I. He writes, I want to be a man someone is able to look up to.
Sebastian, obviously, I don't have a suggestion for you with how to deal with that because when you're talking about dealing with sexual abuse when you're younger, there, first and foremost, is a lot of therapy that needs to happen and there's a lot of healing that needs to happen on a spiritual level.
And when you say that immediately, what happens is they say, you're recommending gay conversion therapy.
No, we're recommending that anytime you deal with any sort of a trauma, if I was a woman and I was raped by a man, maybe I would never want to sleep with a man ever again.
I would say all men make me uncomfortable because I endured this horrific rape.
And then I'd say I feel comfortable with women because women are not going to do that sort of a thing to me.
That would make me not a homosexual by birth, but a homosexual because of an experience that I had, a choice of being homosexual.
But again, because you aren't allowed to have those discussions, people immediately castigate
you if you start saying that maybe you can go to therapy and deal with those deep-seated
traumas from your childhood.
All of us are shaped by our childhood.
Everybody has childhood trauma.
I have childhood trauma, you know.
And it's weird that some people who have childhood trauma are being told not to explore it because
the result of their childhood trauma might be that, oh, yeah, okay, that's actually what
kind of made you gay and want, desire other men or desire other women.
Magdalena writes, hi Candace, as always, I love this episode.
Normally I just hit the like button, but this time I decided to leave a comment as well.
Even though I agree with some points made for Catholicism, I couldn't help but think
about many Catholic priests that have been accused of gay pedophilia, something that
never happened within the Protestant church, I believe.
It absolutely has happened within the Protestant churches.
The first comment I'm going to make, the problem is that there's so many Protestant churches that no one ever registers pedophilia as a problem because they're like, oh, it just happened in this section of Protestantism or this section, whereas the Catholic church is so big and domineering and obviously...
It's, you know, the Catholic Church, the first church that people talk about it and it's been associated with it.
Not justification whatsoever.
But the more important part of what you're saying is that gay pedophilia happened in the Catholic Church.
So is the problem in the Catholic Church or is it the problem in Gay men that are in the Catholic Church that shouldn't be in the Church, because if you're a gay man, you shouldn't be a priest at all, right?
And it is gay men that are abusing children.
So whether you're a gay man abusing children at a school or a gay man abusing children at a Catholic Church, the issue is that we have homosexual men that have invaded institutions.
It's not because of You know, the education system, if there was a pedophilia scandal at schools and there have been them, you don't then say, oh, education is wrong.
Like when we had the Penn State issue, I can't think of the guy's name, Sandusky, I think it was.
No one said, oh, the fault is the institution of education that allowed this to happen.
No, you wouldn't say that.
The problem is that a gay man got into a position of power and abused men, but people don't think that same way when it's the Catholic Church.
The final comment Madison writes this was so eye-opening.
Thank you both as a black man who identifies as gay This was an amazing informative discussion. Thank you both
again I just loved
Loved loved loved reading all these comments from gay people and lesbian people that were just happy
That someone was willing to have the discussion and not to make it seem like
Every gay person was born this way or every gay person agrees with this
Because the truth is is that everybody has different experiences that leads them to where they are in life
And if we don't have the courage to talk about these things for fear of being called
homophobic or for fear of being called somebody who's promoting gay conversion therapy or whatever it is then we
don't get to ever Potentially fix issues, you know and and and sometimes
encouraging people to go further into perversion as one of the commenters said is not a solution
We need to acknowledge, you know, that this society is starting with issues and then creating factors of social contagion.
And you see that the most in the LGBTQ Too Many Letters For Me To Remember community.
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