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July 7, 2023 - Candace Owens
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Should You Really Be Taking Birth Control?
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When I was a teenager and my mom I mean we had such candid conversations and you know I obviously was not having sex at 13 years old like some of my friends were but I knew girls were on birth control for pinballs and I always remember thinking like that's so weird like they could have sex right now and they wouldn't get pregnant like why was I thinking about that?
Well because it's unnatural. It is.
And then it's like we started with the pill and now I hear of these women that are getting you know devices and they're not going to get their period for three years.
I'm like at what point does your brain come online and just go that don't sound right?
So RFK jr. Yeah him running for presidency. I said this the other day I said the most culturally relevant
Person that is running right now. It's RFK jr Not to be confused with the idea that I'm ever going to vote for him, because he's a liberal.
He's definitely a liberal.
But the conversations that he is opening up about vaccines and his war against big pharma...
It's incredible. It is absolutely incredible.
I think it's shaking up a lot of people on the left because they're like, how can this person who obviously shares a lot of our values, I mean, he's in favor of abortion.
Yesterday he was tweeting all this stuff about affirmative action, how upset he was that, you know, they got rid of all this stuff.
But still he's anti-vax and he's anti these big government agencies and all of that stuff.
And they're like, I don't understand all this.
I don't understand nuance or anything.
But I think he's shaking up a lot.
I mean, that Joe Rogan episode was fantastic.
And then the conversation thereafter where he basically asserted himself, said exactly what he thought, and then had a doctor that refused to debate him but said that everyone should get vaccines.
How much did they end up raising?
It was like $2 million. They were at $2 million to get this doctor who is a part of the establishment, who holds a viewpoint that you should roll up your sleeves and get vaccinated, that children need 74 shots.
Before they leave school and these children that we're seeing that are so sick, if you're a doctor and you are sitting on the side of truth and you are saying that he is a quack and you have simultaneously the ability to go state your claims on the most popular podcast in the world, the Joe Rogan Experiment.
And give $2 million to a charity of your choice.
Why would you not do it? Yeah.
Because you're actually the quack, right?
And this whole excuse of, I could never give them the time of death.
When has that happened in science?
The basis of science is to refute claims that are not science, to constantly be furthering truth, to constantly be developing theses and hypotheses, whatever it is.
And he literally is doing exactly the opposite.
Right. I know it's not true.
It's the most critical issue for me.
I obviously have an entire series called The Shot in the Dark here on The Daily Wire because
once I woke up to the scam of vaccines and really understood after I was personally injured,
that it happened to me.
So it's like, you're not going to guess like me.
I was personally injured by the Gardasil shot and then I started going deep and actually
learning the facts about why all of these shots were even established.
And I started learning about the financial incentives.
It has become an issue.
Like if I ever could say that there was a hill for me to die on, it would be childhood
vaccination.
And that's why I came to The Daily Wire and they wanted to expand my show.
One of the first conversations that I had with Caleb and Jeremy is I kept saying that the most important thing for me is to do a shot in the dark.
But I would feel that I have this platform for no reason at all were it not to use my platform to potentially save children.
And so RFK Jr. for me has arrived as a breath of fresh air.
He's really important. On the liberal side.
Yeah. And we also have a breath of fresh air, I think, on the conservative side.
Yeah, with LeVay. Yes. So he is now pulling fourth.
He is at 7%. He's ahead of Pence.
Yes. Yes. Which is crazy.
I guess, again, he's third.
And people might look at that and look at the percentage numbers, because obviously Trump and DeSantis have the majority of them, and it's like, oh, you know, they can Pence 10%, 7%.
But that's still huge.
Like, Is he 34, I think?
34, 35? Yes.
And he has never run for office.
He's a businessman.
But, I mean, he came out of the gate going on every single show, willing to debate every single person.
You had a tweet yesterday about Ron DeSantis saying that the beginning of his campaign was, like, You don't know if he's going to run or not, all of that stuff.
And I didn't even think when I read that, I was like, I wonder how important that is.
And then I got to thinking about Vivek, who right out of the gate, so confident, so passionate, literally, I mean, going on every single show.
The media tour was insane.
Everybody saw him.
Right. So passionate.
Yeah, and I had him on the show instantly, and I've been hoping to have RFK Jr.
on the show as well, talk about things that we agree with.
Because, again, I'm never going to vote for RFK Jr.
because he's a liberal. He's important.
He supports abortion. He supports affirmative action.
But I think the conversation he's opening is really important.
And the same for Vivek. And it's really funny because we're sort of living in this bifurcated reality where everyone just wants to know whether you're a Trump or a Sanders.
It's super tribal. You know, and I am exhausted with the drama of Trump versus Sanders.
Sanders is pretending to be better than the Trump campaign, but they're very involved in petty politics.
You can see it online. And it's just them versus them.
And then when I had Vivek on the show, literally, not just me, my entire control room were like, Wow.
This is so refreshing because he's not getting involved in petty politics, because he's young, because he's seeing things from a different angle.
He was complimentary to Trump, but talked about why he thought that it was time to move on from Trump.
And he wasn't derogatory to any person that was running for him.
And I feel the same about RFK when they tried to bait him on a show recently on News Nation to say, Trump says that he likes you.
You know, We're good to go.
That Donald Trump likes me because I don't want to isolate his supporters.
I want other people to like me. And I went, wow, that was fresh here.
And the way that he has changed his mind.
And the way that he has come around during Trump.
Because at the beginning of COVID, like I've seen some of his old tweets and talking about lockdowns and talking about Trump, and he definitely didn't like Trump.
And I think over the course of the vaccine mandates and how he's really had to, obviously, like cross party lines to get things happening with his organization and with, you know, fighting against the mandates...
He is very upfront about the fact that he's changed his mind about some things and that he's had to work with people that he probably, you know, definitely disagreed with.
But it's just very, very respectful.
It's very nuanced. There's a lot of empathy.
I think it's showing people that people still can connect across party lines.
Right. Which is what's happening. I'm connecting with...
RFK on vaccines, I'm like, this is so refreshing.
You're giving something that's not tribal.
You're supposed to say, Big Pharma, great and amazing at all times and listen to Dr. Fauci
and you're not saying that, which is refreshing, while still being true to who you are
by saying that you support abortion, which I categorically disagree with, again,
but he is still saying I'm still a Democrat and things of that nature.
And Vivek is the exact same way, where he is complimentary to RFK when he's right,
says he disagrees with him when he's wrong, complimentary to Sanders when he thinks he's right,
says he disagrees with him when he's wrong, and I'm like, wow, could this be the beginning
to us all returning as a nation to not just being so tribal and realizing
that there are good and bad qualities.
I hope Gen Z is watching both of those candidates.
I think Gen Z is very fed up with the Trump and the DeSantis, and they obviously don't like Biden.
I don't know many Gen Zers who do like Biden, except the ones that are paid for him, those little TikTok boys that are paid by him to be obnoxious, basically.
Harry, whatever his name is.
Those are the only ones that I know that like Biden.
And I hope that they're watching RK. I hope they're watching the vague because it is a breath of fresh air.
And they're younger. I mean, RFK is not younger.
But he's in shape. He is cognizant.
He can speak, which is what they need in their party.
Like, I would hope that he would endorse somebody that is, like, mentally there.
So, yeah, I hope that they're watching because it's important.
Gotta get into this topic.
Alexi Trevizo. Do you know the story?
Yes. Share it. So, she, senior in high school, I believe, did not know she was pregnant.
We now have seen photos of her at her cheerleading competition.
She... You know she's pregnant.
She comes into the hospital with her mom saying that she has really bad back pain.
She needs to be seen immediately.
They do a bunch of tests. They go, oh my god, you are pregnant.
Did you know that you're pregnant? She goes, no, I didn't, I didn't.
She goes into the hospital room and then she says she really has to go to the bathroom.
She's in a lot of pain. She goes in there for a while.
I don't know. Maybe people left the room.
I think maybe her mom was just in there, which is also very suspicious because I don't think you give birth silently.
I haven't given birth yet. You do not give birth silently.
I'm guessing that you don't give birth silently.
So she's in the bathroom, and she gives birth.
And she takes her baby, wraps it up in a trash bag, puts it in the trash can, and then puts another trash bag on top of it.
She leaves, gets back in the hospital bed.
Nothing happened. Doctors were, you know, going around helping her.
They realize that there's blood all over the bathroom.
They're going, oh no, what happened to you?
Like, they're running all these tests.
And the housekeeper, the cleaning ladies, come in to check the bathroom.
They're cleaning up all the blood and that kind of stuff.
And they lift up the trash can.
It's super heavy. There's a baby in there.
And it is suffocated to death.
And so obviously now every nurse is getting questioned.
Every doctor is getting questioned.
There is police body cam footage of them coming in and confronting the girl.
And the mom is playing this game like, why didn't you tell me?
And it's weird because she's saying that she didn't know that the girl was pregnant.
And so she has all of this anger like, why wouldn't you tell me?
And she's being very aggressive. But it's so obvious that she's trying to cover up.
And she's really angry that her daughter...
Did what she did and dropped the kid in the trash can, but now she's, you know, trying to be a mama bear and protect.
It's so... The mother knew her daughter was pregnant, okay?
The daughter knew she was pregnant.
The photos, she's very obviously nine months pregnant, two weeks before she gave birth in this hospital.
The idea that her mother had no idea is completely and utterly foolish because you went into the bathroom, had a baby.
Do you want me... How much pounds you lose when you have a baby instantly.
I think it's the average is 13 pounds in that span of time.
And also, the noise.
She gave birth to the baby, however heavy the baby was.
The noise, she then gave birth to the placenta.
You also have to birth the placenta, okay?
You lose all this weight. You went back in.
You went back home, lost tons of weight, and you pretended nothing happened.
The mother is guilty as sin.
And if you needed further proof that the mother is guilty as sin is the fact that currently the update to that story...
Is that this girl is now at prom smiling with her baby daddy.
She was released on bail. Looking thinner than ever because she was released on bail after she got arrested.
And when she was getting arrested, they came and knocked on her door.
The girl was crying. She was sobbing.
I'm sorry, Mom. I'm sorry, Mom.
I can't believe I'm doing this. And the mom is sitting outside going, you're not allowed to do this.
Why are you doing this? What evidence do you have?
Why are you trying to protect the daughter?
It's like, what evidence? The baby was in the trash can.
Right, exactly. And the fact that she was present when all this happened.
It is so sad to me and what's going to be even sadder when you will see this is that you are going to see
people that the pro-choice army of radicals defend this because there's another case that's gone on where a woman
was arrested for the exact same thing over in the UK and
pro-life advocates are defending her because she lied about how old baby was I think she was 33 weeks and
She decided to have an abortion To the pro-choice advocates? Yeah. And she decided to have an abortion.
And obviously she then got arrested for that.
And pro-choice advocates are swooping in and saying in that circumstance that you absolutely have a right to choose up until the very last second.
So you are going to see that there will be a base of people defending this girl.
She didn't want to have the baby. They are.
What's the difference? If you're arguing...
She's only 19. And that's the thing. She's only 19.
I don't care. She is an adult.
Yeah, she's a... I look at this story and I think about the lack of responsibility in young people and just thinking, oh, I'll just throw this life away.
Because it's narcissistic. We talked about narcissism on this last episode of Front Stage.
We were talking about surrogacy and that kind of thing.
This is utter narcissism.
Like, I'm done with this.
I don't care. And you made a good point before we got on camera.
And the doctors at the hospital made this point.
And the doctors are, like, shell-shocked and are, like, in tears.
And this was... I don't remember...
I don't know what this kind of hospital is called, but it is the type of hospital where you can bring a baby, you can have the baby, you can just leave it.
They're all. Yes, they are. I wasn't sure if some of them are.
You can drop it at a fire department, you can drop it at a church.
She could have left that baby in the hallway.
If you went through some trauma, you could leave that baby in the hallway and you could walk out.
She suffered no trauma because she's at prom smiling.
And her mother is defending her and standing behind her.
And it speaks to, again...
Me, me, me, what do I want?
The responsible thing for you to do is to have this abortion, even if it's in the bathroom
at a hospital where you can leave and this baby could have survived.
You do what you have to do, baby.
It's all about you and your life.
And people follow that conclusion to its natural end.
So there's a cultural brainwashing that's taking place, an educational brainwashing
that's taking place.
And in this circumstance, also some element of a familial brainwashing that's taking place
because no mother, oh my goodness, I couldn't even imagine my mother would keep her in prison.
Yeah.
Yes. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Because she just killed my granddaughter.
Yeah. That's what happened. I cannot imagine what my mother would do.
She murdered your granddaughter. And you're standing by her asking the police to be gentle with her.
Yeah. I mean, really, what a sign of the times.
Yes. Planned Parenthood was cracking me up because they posted a photo saying that virginity is a social construct.
I saw this. It's like, are you bored?
No. Like, you can't perform abortions anymore, so you're trying to convince teenage girls to then have sex.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Because you can give them birth control pills and you can fill them up.
And so what's really interesting is the conflicting advice of the culture right now, which is they're telling women, you know, when you get pregnant, the responsible thing to do is to have an abortion.
But also make sure that you prevent yourself from getting pregnant.
Like, you know, take all these birth control pills, fight with your fertility, all of these things, and by having tons of sexual partners.
Like, the entire thing is crazy.
They're telling them to both... Be a hoe and also not to get pregnant at the exact same time.
So confusing. What's really fascinating about sex ed, because Planned Parenthood entered the classroom, and I speak on my podcast about this.
Everyone should read this book called Inside the American Education System by Thomas Sowell, where he talks about when Planned Parenthood first went into the classroom in the 70s.
And there was this lie that everybody was just doing it.
Everyone was just having sex. The truth is that the majority of high school students are graduating with their virginity until Planned Parenthood.
Yeah. It's up these incentives to sexualize children.
Just crazy. Right. And then, within 10 years, it completely flipped, and now every child was having sex.
So this is exactly that.
Planned Parenthood wants your children to have sex. I mean, I have friends that started having sex at 13 years old.
Yeah. Planned Parenthood.
He started talking about how what happened was this natural fracturing between the parents.
They wanted to convince kids that your parents don't know anything.
They're backwards. You're young.
You're hip. This is old school.
It was like assuming they were already having sex.
It's like, okay, so since you're already doing this, here's all the things.
And these guys are like, oh, what's going on?
Like, I guess I should be doing this.
It's like, yeah. And then it becomes social contagion.
Yes, exactly. Which is why it's so important, bringing it to an issue today, of why we're starting to really see so many parents standing up to even, like, the LGBTQ agenda that we're seeing placed upon children is that they were able to sexualize children...
In a span of seven years, right?
Imagine what they're able to do when we see these numbers of kids where 25% of them are identifying as LGBTQ, 30% of them are identifying in one class of being non-binary.
This can happen inside of the classroom when the classroom is focused on propaganda and emotional engineering rather than teaching kids arithmetic, teaching kids math.
And this is why we're failing in those regards.
So, yeah, it's a really interesting conversation.
And now that I'm 34 years old and I see so many women that are suffering with their fertility, one thing that I did when I was young, I always stood on birth control.
And obviously, I have very good fertility.
My family is very fertile. I had this weird thing about how weird I thought it was that I felt like in the classroom, they were trying to brainwash me to go on the pill.
And then I felt like every time I went to the doctor, if I was like, I have a pimple, he was like, the pill.
Yeah. I was like, I have a cough.
He's like, the pill. I think I have asthma.
He's like, the pill. And I just thought to myself, why do I feel like you really want me to be on birth control?
And the contrary to me was just like, I am now not going to do that.
And I thank God for that because I wonder if this increase in rates...
So many people that are in their 30s and struggling to even be able to conceive one child could be contributing.
Fertility and the emotional aspect of it.
And one thing that shocked me was that when women go off of birth control, there's all these studies showing that their preferences for their partners change.
I don't know if it's with your, I think it's with your hormones and your pheromones and that kind of thing, but you are like a totally different woman because your hormones, your natural desires are being suppressed, chemically altered.
It's like, how can you look at that and think that that is Healthy.
Now, obviously, you know, science is a wonderful thing.
It's, like, great that there are options, but still at what cost?
Right. Like, if you have another option.
And it's crazy that people think that they would even make the argument that this is healthy.
How could it be healthy to be microdosing yourself onto hormones from a time that you're 13 years old until you're ready to have a family at 30?
Whenever that is, yeah. And how can you think that's not having any health benefits?
Not that inappropriate it is to put 13-year-old girls on it.
Yeah. It was shocking to me when I was a teenager and my mom, I mean, we had such candid conversations and, you know, I obviously was not having sex at 13 years old like some of my friends were, but I knew girls that were on birth control for pinballs.
And I always remember thinking, like, that's so weird.
Like, they could have sex right now and they wouldn't get pregnant.
Like, why was I thinking about that?
Why would my, you know, my friends, you know, being on it for their acne and that's where my brain went?
Because it's just crazy.
Because it's unnatural.
It is. And then it's like we started with the pill and now I hear of these women that are getting devices and they're not going to get their period for three years.
I'm like, at what point does your brain come online and just go, that don't sound right.
You're going to take this, we're going to insert a device inside of you and you're not going to get your period for three years.
And you're like, that sounds great.
I'm like, oh my gosh, am I the only one that's on a robot?
Because that sounds like, I don't feel like women should just not be menstruating for three.
Are you still a woman? Like...
And I remember the one thing that was always talked about with me, and my mom and I even talked about it, and I had a couple of girlfriends that were, like, very wary about hormones, and they would be on, like, the low dosage of, you know, low, low lestrogen or whatever it is.
We would talk about the copper IUD, and that was always the, you know, the non-hormonal, that's where you go, you know, that's how you have to do it.
And they always said, like, oh, it makes your periods a little bit heavier.
Sorry for any guys that are watching.
It makes them a little heavier, but, you know, you're not injecting your body with hormones.
I start learning about it.
And the way that it works is by inflaming your uterus because it is a foreign object.
It's copper. And so as a result, you know, fertilization, actually one thing that I did learn, it can happen.
It just does not allow it to implant.
So you can just be having, when you're having your period, spontaneous abortions and miscarriages because fertilization does, it can happen.
Oh my gosh. But it's because your uterus is inflamed, so implantation cannot happen, but that inflammation is not always localized.
So your entire body can be inflamed.
And that's why there's all these reports of women dealing with depression after getting their IUD, and they're like...
No, well, I shouldn't be dealing with that.
And doctors always say, oh, you know, it's external forces.
You know, it's not involved. But inflammation is directly correlated to mental illness.
Right. And that is why, you know, good doctors always say, you know, if you come in with mental health problems, it's like work on your diet, work on your lifestyle.
What are you eating? Like why all this sugar is inflaming your body and your brain and it's so terrible for you.
It inflames your entire body.
Body. It's scary.
Would you want your girlfriend to be dealing with?
I mean, it's just, it's great. They would freak out.
PETA would be marching in the streets if they mandatorily were injecting copper devices into cats.
Yeah. And they'd be freaking out.
We literally treat animals better than we treat women.
It's really bizarre. And what's crazy is that the psychological component is training women to do this to themselves and, like, making them hate their fertility.
And I'm the opposite. I'm like, guys, we used to, like, think about the fact that they used to dedicate entire gods, right, in cultures to fertility because it was considered such an honor.
The concept of being a barren woman was considered a curse, right?
And now we have a society where women are striving to be barren.
And I want to talk about the IUD copper implant that you're talking about because actually I did a show on birth control because I'm a big advocate of getting women to realize this stuff is not normal.
The comments under of women that got the copper device and wrote, everyone should go check this out on YouTube.
I don't remember what the episode was called, but just go through the catalog.
It was about birth control, talking about how they were infertile and they are convinced it's because of the copper.
Yep. It's shocking.
Nobody talks about this. Well, because you can get copper poisoning if you're on it.
I mean, I don't know when the copper poisoning becomes more risky.
It's like after a few years, but the copper IUD is supposed to last for a long time.
Because I remember talking about it with my mom and being like, oh, this is a good option for whenever I'm ready and all this.
And it lasts for you. You don't have to worry about it for so long.
You're not having to take a daily pill.
It's like it just absolves you of everything and you have no idea the risks.
Yeah, you don't even have to be responsible enough to remember to take the pill.
And so, yeah, reading those comments was really sobering for me because I'm just so glad that I had that instinct when I was young to say, like, something about birth control doesn't feel right to me.
It feels like a cultural brainwashing that's taking place.
And I think what we're going to find is that women are going to start going the other direction because it does feel like society is starting to crave more organic things, whether it's food, you talked about, obviously, not drinking, all of these things that you realized were working and We had parents who had 9, 10, 11 kids and now people are struggling to conceive just one and they're having a turn to science which ultimately is going to give government the power to decide.
whether or not you can have a kid, which completely freaks me out.
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Yep. Alright, speaking of kids, this is going in a totally different direction, but do you know about the Miranda Sings controversy?
Tell me everything about it.
I tried to understand it, but I couldn't.
Okay, so, Miranda Sings, big lipstick.
Oh, she don't look like that.
Miranda Sings, she, like, wears the big, like, pants and walks around like this.
Anyway, she was huge, I feel like, in 2012 to 2014 was, like, the mega Miranda Sings era.
Like, all my friends were being her for Halloween.
My friend's mom was her for Halloween.
That kind of situation. What is she? She's a character online.
Colleen Ballinger is the girl's name, the YouTuber's name.
She was a musical theater actress, and she did skits online with characters.
This Miranda Sings character, I think that's the story, took off.
But she is a character actress.
Miranda Sings became this huge personality.
And she has this whole backstory.
She has a weird uncle. And so she had her Colleen channel, which is her family vlogs and all that stuff.
And then she had the channel that was literally just her Being Miranda Sinks.
It's very meta.
It's an interesting way to go about it, but it's very meta.
Anyway, she was very, very engaged with young people.
She started off doing more inappropriate adult content, but kids found her and thought that she was super funny and families would watch her together.
And there have been now accusations of her being very, very inappropriate with these children.
Not just accusations, but proof.
So she had all these group chats with her, like, minor age fans where she was like, I'm working on a video.
Tell me about your first period.
Like, all of this stuff. Are all of you guys virgins?
And, like, all this stuff. She had one where she sent...
Um, bra and panties to a 15-year-old boy.
She was giving away clothes on a live stream.
And she was like, Adam, you want these, don't you?
You want them. Okay, I'll send you.
I'll send you these bras and panties.
She's a 30-year-old woman sending bras and panties to this little boy.
She did live shows where she had, like, a porn segment on her show.
And girls would show up and they would kind of dress, like, scantily.
You know, and she would, if she saw a girl that was in a short skirt, she would bring them up on stage.
And she would basically be saying, you're dressed like a slut.
And she would go, porn! You're just like, porn!
This is how you do it! And then she would bring on a girl that was wearing jeans and then more covered up.
And she was like, this is not porn!
And so there's all of these videos.
Literally! It's stupid!
It's so... I was talking to my mom about it, and she said, I never let you watch Miranda Sings not because it was inappropriate, but because it was dumb.
And it was going to kill your brain cells.
So that's what you're getting right now. Anyway, so she had the porn segment, and then there was another one where she would bring a girl up on stage, and she would make fun of them, and she would go like this, and open up, the girl's lying on her back, legs are up in the air, and she would go, whoop, open up her legs, and they would have fart noises on stage.
It's humiliating children on stage.
And she would open up her legs, literally, imagine a girl lying on her back in a little skirt, Fart like that.
And then the girl gets up and is like, oh, okay.
So all of these videos all over the internet in addition to sending the bra and panties and then on top of all of that, she would use her fans to come up with video ideas and she would basically make them her little interns but not paid and they would work for her but she was like exploiting them, all of this stuff.
So that guy, Adam, who got the bra and panties, Made a video about it two or three years ago saying, you know, this feels, I think he's, you know, early 20s now or something like that, said, like, this feels really weird.
Like, I'm really regretting, you know, working with her and I think you should know the truth about her.
Like, this is what happened. And all of her, like, rabid, angry fans bullied him, like, basically got him offline, shut him up.
He's now back. Made another video.
She went viral. Everybody is now posting their own stories.
I was the girl who, like, she did in this video.
I was in this group chat.
Her brother also had weird group chats with her fans.
So weird.
So anyway, that's the backstory.
She has now waited a few weeks, and she is doing her quintessential apology.
She did not do the notes app apology.
She did not post cryptic quotes on her story.
Did she give money to a college? Yeah, she didn't give money to a college.
Okay. Did not even do a tearful, straight-to-camera livestream.
No. She's sitting in her little, like, very millennial-esque apartment.
It literally looks like a straight-out of 2012.
She pulls out a ukulele.
And she sings for over 10 minutes.
10 minutes and 16 seconds.
And she's strumming.
And it's like she has the chorus and the verse.
And the chorus is like, oh, we're all on the toxic, like, rumor train.
Yes, yes, please. What?
You have to. So that's how she apologized.
We're on the toxic rumor train?
Yes, and she was like the lying locomotion or whatever.
How old is she? Like 36 years old.
All aboard the toxic gossip train.
You're chugging down the tracks of misinformation.
The toxic gossip train.
You got a one-way- Ten minutes!
Ten minutes of this!
Okay, so in between these, like, choruses where she goes...
Anyway, then she admits to all of it.
So she's saying it's all gossip, it's all rumors, and then she says, there's, like, brief moments.
And I said this on my show, there's brief moments of her being genuine, saying...
I was inappropriate. And, you know, it was the beginning of my career and this was weird.
And I'm, you know, I acted this way.
And it's like, okay, you get it.
And then she literally cut herself off and go, you know, I was really weird and I understand how it would be odd.
But it's still the toxic.
So she's going back and forth. She's playing both sides.
Like, it's a lie. It's a rumor.
Yes, I did do what I feel bad.
But it's actually a lie and a rumor.
Mm-hmm. And it's this whiplash.
And at the end, she actually makes good points about cancel culture, about the toxicity of cancel culture.
And on my show, I said, it's like the worst person alive is making good points because it's like, I don't want you making those points because you did weird things with kids, so I don't care.
If this was some person that got canceled for a political thing, that would be funny.
But you have admitted multiple times in the song that you did send this guy panties, but it needs more context.
We have the context. We watched the entire video.
And that you did talk inappropriately with kids and that you feel weird about it now and that you felt like you were this weird, creepy adult.
And she said, I was lonely and confused and I shouldn't have done that.
Had she just said that...
Mm-hmm.
It's like, you think that that's funny?
Right, right. There is something about...
Because you always wonder, like, why are people going after children so much?
And it is sort of...
And I talk about this actually totally different subject.
But I'm, like, really struck by the amount of white women teachers who have affairs with students.
It's creepy. And I knew one of these teachers at my high school that did this.
And, you know, the rumors that she was sleeping with this, like, little, you know, white woman.
And she was sleeping with this very...
He was the most popular football player at the time.
So weird. And what it was, though, because she actually went to the school prior, was that she was a loser, right?
And so they feel like in this weird way that if they then poach a child, they can relive the childhood that they never got.
That's a little bit what she's saying in the song.
Yeah. There's like this weird, like disturbing psychological element of why these people are attracted to children in really weird ways where it's like they actually want to be the child.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Playing with the dolls.
This is not funny. Saying you're a little girl, saying that you're a five-year-old, and saying that because you never got to have a childhood is very, very dangerous.
And it seems like that's exactly what's happening with her.
Like, maybe she was a loser, and now she's, like, cosplaying a 14-year-old in her head.
So this stuff is not weird or creepy to her because in her head, she's like, well, now I have a platform.
You read her screenshots, and it literally sounds like a 14-year-old.
So, guys. Yeah. What are we doing?
And that was the one moment in the song where I actually thought she was being somewhat honest.
And I said it on the show. I said authentic.
And even one of my commenters was like, I don't even know if I would call that authentic.
But I think she was being honest in that she did feel like a loser.
She was lonely. She thought that she was getting something by messaging these kids.
And she knows that it's wrong. But all of that was undermined by the stupid song, the stupid saying.
It's rumors. It's like you can't even decide whether it's the truth or the lie.
So I can't even empathize with you for a moment.
But it was so weird.
But it doesn't remove the fact that it is predatory.
Yes, it is. Adults that engage in this sort of a thing and jump into this, it's very scary.
And the world is starting to give it permission, you know?
And as a parent, that terrifies me.
And another thing is that, it's like I'm thinking about all these kids that were messaging her and all of that stuff.
Where were the parents? Like, were parents comfortable taking their kids to these shows where suddenly their daughter was up on stage and she was pointing at them yelling porn and that kind of thing?
Stage moms. It's like, watch what your kids are watching.
Mm-hmm. It's so important because people like this still exist today, even more so, because it's even more permissible, like you said, and people are more comfortable with it.
Stage moms. Yes. This gets into Maddie Zeigler.
People didn't follow this whole—I mean, many people did.
She was trending for a long time, Sia.
Yeah. You know, who said that Maddie Zeigler was her muse and everything.
Yeah. And she started talking about how she would have Maddie Zeigler over to have sleepovers.
Sleepovers, yeah. And I'm thinking here, why on earth would her mother allow a grown woman to allow a little eight-year-old girl to sleep inside her bed?
It's not her parents. She's not related to this person.
It's not a cousin. This is very weird.
And there is something that's predatory.
And people said, rightfully condemned Sia for this and rightfully condemned Maddie Ziegler's mother for this because Maddie Ziegler's mom is literally a stage mom.
And so for her, she's thinking, Sia's a famous person.
This is how people get into these circumstances.
Yeah. Why are we allowing, you know, kids to sleep over at Neverland?
And Michael Jackson, who are these parents?
Yeah. Well, there are these parents that are so attached to the element of fame that is brought with the individual, like whether it's Michael Jackson, whether it's Asia, that they forego the fact that their child is, in fact, a child.
Yeah. And this is an objectively unsafe situation, a weird situation.
which is why so many celebrities are allowed to give in to their perversities and allow
themselves to do things that regular people would never do.
And it's because we grant them that permission because they are being idolized. Many
people grant them that. I definitely don't. But we idolize them so much that we allow them to
blur these lines. And society better wake up. You've got to snap back really quickly
because you're essentially allowing these pedophiles, perverts, whatever it is, to go after
children.
It's so weird.
Well, unfortunately, that's the end.
I hope that everybody enjoyed the toxic gossip train!
The locomotion. It's so bad.
She takes the cake for the worst celebrity apology ever.
I don't know if you heard this one. This will be the last thing I say.
There was a TikTok girl who was accused of sexually assaulting her boyfriend, and there's a video of it, and he was passed out drunk, and she, like, climbed on top of him and was, like, taking off his pants and all this stuff when they were, like, 17 or something like that.
She gets canceled. She's a TikToker.
She does an interpretive dance as an apology.
She has a little voice over at the beginning.
I hope that you all start to understand me.
And then it's her doing, like, you know, the weird contemporary modern dance.
Like, oh! Rolling around, like, flexed feet, doing all that stuff.
And I thought that was bad. And then I saw this.
I think the worst recent apology in history was the non-apology from the black girl at the graduation who grabbed the mic from me and said, this is my graduation, this is my moment, and threw it down.
And then when people were outraged by the violence that she displayed, she then posted on her Instagram and said, well, I'm black and I'm allowed to do whatever I want.
That reminds me of the man with the trans titties at the White House.
That apology. I'm so sorry.
Not apologizing for his actions, no.
Apologizing to the black trans.
It was a moment of trans joy, Rose Montoya said.
It was. Have we not all felt a moment of trans joy?
I have. I'm feeling trans joy right now, and this is a perfect place for us to end the episode.
Yes, I hope you all are experiencing trans joy.
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